/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sekai/Denpa
Nekopara Vol 4 - 100% translated and 50% edited, November 2020 release
The Seventh Sign -Mr. Sister- - "Planning release", appears to have been rejected by Steam
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - "More programming"
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - Fully localized, in engine work
Re;Lord Volume 2 - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work by the developer
Harumade Kururu - Awaiting engine work, 2020 release
Rewrite+ - Main game 60% translated, Harvest Fiesta 50% translated, January 2021 estimated release
Love Duction - 100% translated and edited, engine work in progress
Hoshizora no Memoria (retranslation) - In QA, going to update existing release to HD version
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 60% translated
Island Diary - 100% translated and edited, Winter release
Creature to Koi Shiyo!! for Otome - Waiting on a third party
Miko no Kanata - 100% translated and edited, awaiting engine work
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next, in "icebox"
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up
Sumire - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 3 - Awaiting engine work
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 0 - Awaiting engine work
Sanarara R - 100% translated, 25% edited
>9-nine- Episode 3 - "Translation and editing complete. Waiting on build approval."
Amatsutsumi - Translation and editing in progess
KoiKuma Fan Disc - 100% translated, editing ongoing, waiting on build from dev, 2020 release
Love's Sweet Garnish 2 - Translation and editing in progress, 2020 release
Kanojo no Seiiki - Picked up
Glass - Picked up
New Glass - Picked up
Amairo Chocolate - 100% translated and edited
>Kimagure Temptation - 65% translated
Slobbish Dragon Princess - 90% translated
9-nine- Episode 4 - 30% translated
Karakara 3 - In Development
Secret Project 7 - listed

Sol Press/Panty Press
Shitsuji ga Aruji o Erabu Toki - 30% translated, 10% edited
Nukitashi - 100% translated, 26% edited
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - 68% translated, 68% edited
Irotoridori no Sekai - 100% translated and edited
DareSora - Volume 1 Released, info on future volumes soon
Witch's Garden - Picked up
Happiness! 2 Sakura Celebration - 100% translated, 83% edited
Hyper->Highspeed->Genius - Picked up

Nekonyan
>IxShe Tell - August 28th release
Hello Lady - Main game 100% translated, edited, and TLC, 50% QC, engine work being done by developer, tentative Summer release
Dracu Riot - 100% translated and edited, engine porting starting shortly
Riddle Joker - 90% translated and 90% edited
Kinkoi: Golden Loveriche - 85% translated and 45% edited
Clover Days - 100% translated and TLC, editing and engine porting starting shortly
Aokana Extra1 - 90% translated, 50% edited
Fureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc release
Melty Moment - 35% translated
Making＊Lovers: Geki Icha After Story - "we plan to translate the Fandisc as well"
Secret Project #1 - 35% translated

Fakku
Abaddon: Princess of the Decay - Localization at "40% to 50%", 2020 release

Visual Arts/Key
Angel Beats 1st Beat - 50% translated

Aksys
Collar x Malice -Unlimited- - August 21st release
Piofiore no Banshou - September 10th
Gensou Kissa Enchante - November 13th release

LoveLab
The Humbling of a Holy Maiden - 60% translated, 50% through programming
Secret Project 1 - 30% translated, 20% edited

Other
>Bitchy Boss Bimbofication - August 14th release
Jiangshi x Taoshi - Episodes 1-2 released, episode 3 upcoming
Evenicle 2 - Announced, Steam page for a demo covering chapter 1 put up to be released within the upcoming weeks.
Wanko no Yomeiri - Upcoming release
Taimanin Asagi - Page for the Trial of episode 1 back on Steam
Venus Blood -Hypno- - Announced, Kickstarted planned for September or October
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

gay

>>25306165
>Venus Blood -Hypno- - Announced, Kickstarted planned for September or October
Are things still going well with this?

This was not necessary was it? The old thread was at like 220 posts lol. But yeah FUCK YES ROOM No.9 is so GOOD!

>>25306316
Hello newfriend, this thread isn't a general it's a weekly update thread.

>>25306431
So when do we bring this post back to Fuwanovel Blog where it belongs?

>>25306477
This thread has been around much longer than Fuwanovel has.

>>25306316
>>25306477
Fuck off.

Musicus soon
Muramasa "soon"

>>25306477
today, actually

>>25307003
That subahibi review. Jesus what a pretentious idiot.

>>25307711
Why don't you tell us why he's wrong? You're anonymous, you can be as stupid as you want, go nuts.

>>25307711
It's our savior Moogy?

>>25307711
>The central theme of 幸福に生きよ！ is so poignant in its simplicity that the ideas presented in many other works feel ineffectual in comparison.
>Just be happy bro

>>25308080
>The central theme of 幸福に生きよ！ is so poignant in its simplicity
"Just be happy dude" is not a particularly good or interesting theme. It's not poignant in the least. This stuff is the weakest part of subahibi and it exposes how pretentious subahibi is; all the half assed pagan ramblings and Tractatus references never amounted to anything. In that regard it's closer to Evangelion than it is to Wittgenstein.
>that the ideas presented in many other works feel ineffectual in comparison.
How does a "simple" message make something else in a completely different work "ineffectual"? Moogy doesn't bother to expand upon this at all.
>Also highly successful at blending entertainment and religious/philosophical elements to create a story that is both meaningful and accessible.
Subahibi has terrible pacing issues and the idea that a visual novel where a little girl is raped by a dog is "accessible" is laughable.

The reality is the vast majority of references, whether it is to religion or to otaku subculture never amount to anything narratively in Subahibi. They're just that, references. The only connection Subahibi has to Wittgenstein is the solipsist implication that the world of Subahibi doesn't exist and every character in the setting is the same person, but all it has to say about this is "lol who cares what's real and what isn't, just be happy with the world you live in".

Now I like subahibi, it's a solid 7/10 visual novel. But great art it is not, insightful it is not and some grand adaptation of Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus it is not. When Mamiya is just rambling about Nordic mythology, the world serpent and the Naglfar while sitting on Kimika, it doesn't *mean* anything and pretending it is, in Moogy's words, a "blending of entertainment and religious/philosophical elements" implies it has meaning that is never actually delivered on in the story.

Anyone thinks this actually does has meaning and it was just 2deep4me, I'm eager to hear it, but even if I'm a retard it doesn't change the fact moogy is a retard as well. Moogy never actually explains what makes Subahibi such an intelligent piece of literature, he just alludes to broader themes then never actually discusses them. Even in his review he admits it all just boils down to a message that has nothing to do with the innocuous religious or philosophical references the novel jams down your throat.

>>25308170
>>25308411
Is there anything more cringeworthy than a heterosexual man who considers himself a yurifag?
Get your male gaze out of my sexuality, you freak.

>>25308663
You will have to forever live with the fact that the most sophisticated portrayal of lesbianism in a visual novel was written by a man.

>>25308717
That's because lesbians don't write porn games; when they write they write actual literature, but mostly they're out their saving lives as doctors and such.

>>25308748
Pathetic cope.

>>25308663
what the fuck? Yuri is directed at heterosexual men you dunce?

>>25308794
Some of it is, most of it isn't

>>25308818
>most of it isn't
Source: Your ass

>>25308935
There's more to yuri than the doujins you're fapping to. There are lots of light novels for example that are clearly targeted at girls. As for VNs it seems obvious to me that most of those (exceptions being things like >>25308717) are targeted at women as well, the same way I can tell that a BL game is for women.

>>25309020
Name me 5 yuri VNs that are aimed at girls more than men.

>>25308170
How do you type out this much about a person without a hint of self awareness?

>>25308818
an editor at yuri hime magazine (are there even other surviving yuri magazines in japan?) once said that their readership was 60-70% male

>>25309052
I can think of five that gave me that impression (which is all I claimed) but I have no way to prove what their target demographic in Japan was.

>>25308663
Fuck off tranny

>>25308411
Finally a kami post from neo-jaypee.

>>25308411
>"Just be happy dude" is not a particularly good or interesting theme. It's not poignant in the least.
Themes aren't poignant by themselves.
>How does a "simple" message make something else in a completely different work "ineffectual"? Moogy doesn't bother to expand upon this at all.
Expanding upon it would actually be pretentious. It's astounding to me that you don't see this. He is merely stating, that Subahibi's "poignant simplicity" makes many other ideas seem "ineffectual" by comparison. So what he's saying is that a lot of other VNs aren't poignant to him. What's pretentious about that and what could possibly be the need to start expanding on it?
>The reality is the vast majority of references, whether it is to religion or to otaku subculture never amount to anything narratively in Subahibi.
I don't have knowledge of all the references, but from what I do know and from what I have heard that understand the references I don't, the references are interwoven.
>Moogy never actually explains what makes Subahibi such an intelligent piece of literature, he just alludes to broader themes then never actually discusses them.
Wouldn't it be more pretentious of him if he bit off more than he could chew? He seems to recognize his limited understanding, and leaves it at that. On the other hand, you are basically telling everyone else that you understand SubaHibi better, and saying that it's actually not meaningful at all, without explaining why. In other words, you sound like a hypocrite, holding others up to standards you don't care to uphold yourself.

Maybe the real Subarashiki Hibi were the shitposts we made along the way.

>>25308411
Reading your post I was thinking about how the "Live Happily" theme relates to Looking-Glass Insects. In the normal ending, Zakuro chooses to not "Live Happily" I suppose, and submits to the bullies rather than rebelling against them, so what does that mean? Did she get what she deserved for not having the correct philosophical perspective? In the good ending where she fights back, she does achieve the Wonderful Everyday, but she still loses against the bullies. They're going to gang-rape her and Kimika and the only reason she gets a happy ending is because Tomosane shows up at the last minute and saves them. What does that say about the theme? What about the other girls that were bullied and raped, and killed themselves with Zakuro?

>>25306275
https://twitter.com/Intl_Ninetail/status/1291576531647512577

It still seems on schedule for September.

>>25309942
I guess my point is that I don't think the message provides a sufficient method of dealing with extreme suffering.

>>25310066
And it's a legitimate question, you know? Because the game is filled with that kind of shit. But I think it kind of passes the buck on the topic and implies it's really your fault that it happens, even though it presents situations that are unwinnable by one's own effort.

Do you guys know if Mangagamer gets most of their sales from steam or their site?

>>25310228
Every VN publisher gets most of their sales from steam. Meru posted a few months ago that 90% (could have been 95% I forgot) of her company's sales came from there.

>>25310310
What the fuck. I guess ironic weebs have no qualms playing nukige on steam.

>>25310228
A title that does well on Steam does exponentially more than one that does well on MG. A title on MG that sells a thousand is considered a great success with the Rance titles having sold a few thousand each. Maybe some of the titles on the MG store have reached 10,000 sales, but that's only after a long time. I'm not sure about the exact numbers titles successful on Steam get, but I'd imagine that a title that does well on Steam gets at least 10k sales easy. I wouldn't be surprised if Evenicle 1 sales have passed 100k sales.

>>25310228
Most of mangagamers sales comes from their website, this is due to the fact that they don't put all of their titles on steam like most other VN publishing companies do. Only a small handful of MG's steam titles sell better than the mangagamer store release. Off the top of my head that would be two of the funbag fantasy titles and Evenicle.

>>25311132
>the funbag fantasy titles
What makes you think that?
If we look at their end of year review for 2019 it shows that Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 made it to #7 on their list for games sold on their store that year despite it coming out in late November, yet the series as a whole only made it to #8 on their top selling steam games. There's also the fact that Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 and probably even Gaiden 2 were secured licences before the first game even made it to steam, so it's obvious that they were selling well on their own store.

>>25311378
I just know the first two titles. Funbag fantasy and sideboob? story well on steam, with the original selling around twice as many copies. The titles after those sold pretty meh on steam though.

>>25311423
The original also sold well on their own website as it was a highly requested title in their survey.

>>25311132
Eden, yuri ghosts, fashioning little miss lonesome, umineko, and higurashi all did far better on Steam as well.

>>25311471
I find it hilarious how great the funbag series did for MG and how terrible Eden's Ritter did for ShiraVN.

>>25311514
Yeah I don't track all-ages or gay titles. I'm not the target audience, to quote sekai project.

>>25311546
>Yeah I don't track all-ages or gay titles. I'm not the target audience, to quote sekai project.
I'd imagine it would have sold better if they put it on the MG store too, since your average ironic weeb on steam most likely won't be into the content Eden's Ritter offers.

Being on Steam makes it less likely for me to buy something, since I don't like having to deal with the Steam client and I want to actually own the game. Not to mention that I don't want to support Valve.

>>25311819
I'm referring to something being exclusively on Steam, of course. I'd like it to be on some other store as well so I can buy it there instead.

>>25311772
Actually titles like Eden's Ritter sell very well, it's just that people don't tend to purchase censored porn focused titles because it's kinda the whole point of the title. MG's Ammolite titles are a good example. Yeah they turned a profit on it still but it didn't sell well enough to be worth the effort of bringing any further titles over after they fulfilled their original contract requirements.

>>25311874
>Actually titles like Eden's Ritter sell very well
Any proof to back this up? I don't think there's many games like it on steam.

>>25311911
Kagura Game titles are very similar in terms of H-content and they sell well. Venus Blood also has similar content.

>>25311971
Those are RPGs though, it's not really comparable.

>>25311994
gameplay in kagura is genuinely terrible though you have a point for venus blood. But clearly the content sells because people are buying games with it in it, at a notable level too.

>>25306163
>Django - Waiting on translation.

Is the translator okay?

>>25312407
Kagura Games stuff is mostly just rape and ntr though, I'd say that's much more tame than Eden's Ritter.
Also, just because you don't like it doesn't mean there isn't an audience for that type of rpgmaker gameplay. There's a reason why they haven't (to my knowledge) released a title without gameplay yet.

>>25312593
I'm not disparaging the gameplay focused VN readers but I am saying that objectively the gameplay in Kagura Game titles is extremely low quality and barebones. Flash Games are often more complex with more depth in regards to gameplay than these rpgmaker titles so I'm extremely confident in saying that if they had removed all the adult content from those titles, nobody would have bought them because the gameplay is really really bad. Again I hold no ill will to people who enjoy these kinds of titles because I understand the enjoyment that comes from gameplay focused porn given that I am a big fan of Kyrieru's titles but the titles are objectively bad in terms of the gameplay department and only work because of the combination of porn with the gameplay.

>>25312524
It's Makoto. Of course he is okay, but just working on other stuff.

>>25312822
Apparently Muramasa is finished, so maybe that's next.

>>25312862
Sumaga is next.

>>25312873
I didn't mean release, I just meant the work of translating the game.

>>25309971
That's reassuring.

>>25311514
>>25311546
All ages titles are probably going to do better on Steam than MG by default. There are all ages titles that are complete flops on Steam like the Propeller games, but they were complete flops on the MG site too, so the point still stands. As for why otome and yuri titles do better, I'm not completely sure. Yuri ghosts might just have gotten lucky due to being one of the first uncensored titles on the platform while the other yuri titles on Steam by MG are all ages IIRC. I guess otomefags are just more likely to buy from Steam than from the MG site. I think that there are a decent amount of Otome EVNs on Steam, which might explain why.

>>25314100
It's due to casual userbases. They always want to pretend to be huge weaboo types or actually like that stuff. Generally they will prefer games that either are
>Yuri
>Otome
>Gameplay
>mellow Plotge
Unless it's a major major title that can not be on Steam like Maggot Baits Euphoria etc then they will not shop at the MG.

>>25314384
I also forgot to mention Lollicon and Traps as a genre as well. Those have been doing well on Steam recently.

I kind of miss the old Moogy that used to read eroge and jerk off about how untranslatable every single kamige is. He was a pretentious cunt (and still is in other ways) but he played a major role in the old fan translation scene together with Mirror Moon, Ammy and NNL. It was a fun time with all the drama and anticipation associated with fan projects back then, breaking the support disk, waiting for Message, etc. His ramblings might have angered me in the past, but now it's the kind of thing I look back on and laugh at.

>>25314520
Did the Germans have something to do with this?

>>25312862
>Apparently Muramasa is finished
Whose ass did you pull that info from?

>>25314944
Someone posted here that Moogy said it on discord. He also made a twitter post crying about a homophobic joke in his editing "project" which correlates with a scene in the latter portions of Muramasa, so it fits.

>>25314944
Here I found the relevant posts, you have to follow the conversation a bit though.
>>/jp/thread/S24037942#p24052660
>>/jp/thread/S24037942#p24057121

>>25315030
>Someone posted here that Moogy said it on discord
And you believed him?

>>25315060
It correlates with the other thing (there's more explanation here >>25315058), so I think it's reasonable. They've been working on it for several years now.

>>25315058
It's funny because I'm in that chain. At this point I kind of doubt it's not being worked on but at the same time people keep claiming it's at various stages of completion with nothing but speculation.

>>25315081
Why would he have edited Akki-hen before Maou-hen? Or do you think he did both in two months when it has taken them years to get to that point in the first place?

We're going to make our own TLWiki. With Blackjack and Hookers!

>>25315110
The thing is it's going to take time. I honestly would pay 20$-30$ extra for the patch DLC to make them move quicker. I almost have to think they might do Tokyo Necro before the legendary titles of Nitro+

>>25316200
It has taken time, a lot. But whatever, no use complaining about it when it hasn't even been announced. I'll just be happy if it comes out before I kill myself.

Anyone knows if the fandisk of this has been translated?

>>25318809
The translator hated the original and dropped the fandisc as a result.

>>25318872
Welp rip
Personal thoughts on the original? I havent seen all the routes but I liked it

>>25318902
Maki's route was terrible but I really enjoyed the other 3 routes.

>>25312873
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>25317307
I guess 40 is the new 30?

>>25309884
That's a big wall of text but neither you or Moogy can explain what the references in Subahibi are actually alluding to.

All you've done is argue it's less pretentious to allude to broader themes than to actually explain your beliefs. I'll remind you that "pretentious" shares an etymological root with the word "pretend".

>>25316200
>I almost have to think they might do Tokyo Necro before the legendary titles of Nitro+
I don't think they're working on Tokyo Necro, which moogy rated 6.5

I'm convinced the professional translators who still work in this medium are too incompetent to get any other kind of translation work so they settle for the peanuts offered by JAST/MG. Muh passion project is basically just stating that you're fine living in your mom's basement getting paid less than burger flippers.

>>25318809
>>25318930
I can't get the FD to work for it at all. It crashes whenever I load it

>>25331597
Fandisc isn't translated. Go post in the untranslated VNs thread.

>>25331645
Fair, I'll try over there instead

This isn't directly related to VNs, but since it's tangentially related to VNs I figure you might actually know a thing or tow about this.

But didn't Sekai Project use to publish Rabi-Ribi on Steam?
But when I check the store page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/400910/RabiRibi/
the publisher is listed as CreSpirit. Did their publisher change?
Though at the same time the right side bar on the bottom of the page links to Sekai Project's Facebook, Twitch, Twitter, and Youtube.
So Sekai Project are still getting paid if you purchase Rabi-Ribi? Guess that'd be the case if they helped localize it, no matter whether or not they publish it.
That really sucks though. I'll never ever give Sekai Project a single cent again. Fuck them so, so much.

>>25330702
Yes and we are fine with that. Because we love VNs.

>>25332439
Yes, the love is shown in all the irrelevant trash moege that keeps getting pumped out by every publisher.

>>25332680
Moege are fun?

>>25332869
No.

>>25332869
Yes

>>25332869
Some of them, sometimes. Usually translations make it worse.

>>25331921
Yes, and Yes. If you don't want to support sekai project you'll have to pirate that title. Though if the publisher has changed they probably separated from Sekai Project so their future titles shouldn't have any royalties to SP.

Room No. 9 is my shit, loved the corruption/mindbreak ending. Seiji is the cutest when he's getting abused.

>>25332439
I don't see how translating random moege #48 can be considered a work of passion. Passion is what fan translators have by wanting to share their favorites with English speakers. The soulless people who work for publishers just shovel shit.

>>25336216
Makoto is a good example of this. From just wanting to share VNs like Saya no Uta, Hanachirasu and Kikokugai to sitting in Peter Payne's sex dungeon shoveling his feces and occasionally getting to work on something that isn't a soul crushing bore.

>>25336271
Gotta pay the bills somehow. At least he gets to do something he's interested in some of the time.

>>25332439
The same love as this guy shown? Being a publisher slave?

>>25335960
Fag.

>>25336216
Tell it to the audience that doesn't make it worth it for us to localize darkge.

>>25339024
It's not that the wider audience doesn't want it, it's that only moege players are dumb enough to actually buy their games.

>>25336216
You're acting like moege have never gotten fantranslated, is it so hard to believe some people like different stuff than you and would like to see it get translated?

>>25322689
It was still good enough for him to try and push for it a few years back.
https://twitter.com/moogy0/status/829462031795421186

>>25339024
What do you consider darkge?

>>25339641
Moege fan translations seem more like junior projects for aspiring translators than a sincere desire to share an experience they enjoyed.

>>25335960
I agree with you bro. I hope it sold well.
I hated the bait in the cast comments though.
>if it sells well you might get to see Seiji and Daichi again!
Yeah right.

Looking for NTR incest/mom/blackmail recs
Danny looks right up my alley, hope it gets done before end of the year, but I'm looking for something else in the meantime

>>25356483
Ochiru Hitozuma, although the NTR doesn't really play a big role.

>>25357191
ngl the art looks pretty bad tho

>>25357291
Maybe because you're underage.

>>25357328
I'm 32

>>25357341
Then I don't know how you can call Kagami's artwork bad. He was pretty much in a league of his own when it came to non-moeshit nukige back then.

>>25357463
I shouldn't have said that it looks bad. I should have said that the art doesn't appeal to me much at a glance. I apologize for that.

Looking for mindbreak VN's. Would ask /vn but figured I'd get a decent response here

>>25358404
Try >>25228323

>>25358429
Thank you will do!

>>25316200
>I almost have to think they might do Tokyo Necro before.

There's currently a Spanish translation of Tokyo Necro in development actually, so this is true in some way.
I think it would be funny if the Tokyo Necro Spanish TL came out before the localizations of Sumaga and Muramasa.

>>25358480
What's actually funny is that you can learn Japanese faster than they can localize any major title you want to read.

>>25358480
One of the translators also said they might do Axanael and Mojika once they're done with Tokyo Necro.

There's also plans for Sumaga and Muramasa but after the localizations.

My mom (36, she had me when she was 16. I'm 20) found out I like eroge and she wants to try playing one because she wants to see what it is I do all day. What should I let her play?

>>25362110
How did she find out?

>>25362110
Probably Ultimate boob wars.

>>25362110
Kikokugai

What's the significance of the fucking lamp changing in the MG localization of Room No.9?
https://www.mangagamer.com/user_data/tmp/screenshots/20200701203518.jpg
https://s2.vndb.org/sf/96/99996.jpg

Warning: Homosapien activity.

>>25363408
Maybe the set of CGs that had no mosaic had a different lamp. As for why, who knows?

>>25362110
Something normalfag like Sengoku Rance obviously.

>>25362110
subahibi

>>25362110
Saya no Uta. Good balance of sick and normie-friendly.

>>25363689
Also sets the bar too high and it's only downhill from there once you finish Hanachirasu and Kikokugai and enter EOP limbo.

>>25363689
Saya no Uta is for edgy male teenagers

>>25363835
Sounds like something someone would say who is barely out of his teenage years, to be honest

Other than being an EOP, what am I doing wrong? I tried to download EDICT manually and extract it but it won't show up as installed.

>>25364220
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>>25364373
I didn't ask how to learn Japanese?

>>25364397
See: >>25364373

>>25364408
See: >>25364397

>>25362110
musumama 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6

>no hibiki wife

>>25363408
There was a lamp war where the localizer really hated that kind of lamp in the original.

That or it's supposed to be two different rooms/moments that got stiched together in image editing?

>>25362110
Umineko.

>>25362110
Something short and all-ages that's still enjoyable. I'd suggest Planetarian.

Musicus.

>>25362110

>>25362110
The obvious answer is any momcest ge

>>25370191
That lamp was haram in the muslim countries Room No.9 was targeted towards. Gay sex is halal.

>>25362110
Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno

>>25362110
How cool is your mom though, that's the question.

>>25362110
Something like Fata Morgana would be an apt choice. That's what my mother read, along with Episode 1 of Umineko.

>>25362110
Something like Fata Morgana would be an apt choice. That's what my mother (61yo) read, along with Episode 1 of Umineko.

>>25362110
Sengoku Rance

>>25362110
A book.

Why haven't you just learned japanese after all this time anon?

>>25423326
For the same reason that I'm still a neet. I'm completely unmotivated and have no drive to do anything. I waste away every day, distracting myself from my depression with media so that I can continue to put off addressing whats wrong in my life and being productive.

>>25423326
I tried some years ago (Tae Kim) but it was like nonsense to me. I picked it back up recently when I found Cure Dolly on Youtube since her grammar categorization actually makes sense.

>>25423481
literally me

>>25423326
If only I were a high IQ fag like moogy

>>25428818
TK is almost a surefire way to fail since it's poorly structured, dense and lacks exercises. It covers everything in elementary textbooks in just a few pages, which usually takes 3 - 6 months of self study to get through and know by heart. People fail because they take bad advice, rush and burn out, which is literally the only thing that will prevent you from learning Japanese. Never use DJT for anything other than resources. That community is a black hole.

>>25434788
This is only true if you're either a retard, unable to make yourself read slowly w/ lookup, or both. There's no need to learn anything by heart when you can look back at your reference while reading REAL japanese rather than your textbook.

>>25436981
There's no reason to make things harder for yourself by rushing into things. Doing core2k alongside beginner textbooks of your choice makes your transition into reading infinitely less frustrating.

>do it this way or you're retarded
The DJT NGMI way. Classic.

>>25437195
You are making things harder on you.

Tae Kim's idea is that you learn some basic grammar, know where to find stuff if you have trouble, and a bit of vocab. The rest will come from reading. And ONLY that.
A textbook is just a textbook. You will never truly learn the language with that. I know, because I "learned" English like that in school. Not until I actually consumed English media I got actually better. (which was after school)
Grammar is especially like that. Read and eventually you don't think about grammar anymore. You could ask me "hey, why is this like this and that" and I couldn't answer you without looking it up. I just know it'd be like that. Same goes for my native language and whatnot. You don't think about rules, you just "know" how this works. Similar to vocab really. Rules are just helping you to learn basics and are basically going to be broken eventually anyway. They were created solely for people learning the language.

>>25437772
Your mistake is thinking I'm saying you should be restricted to a textbook for years. It takes a few months at most of self study, and then you have an infinitely easier time consuming content and don't have to look up literally every single particle and vocab along the way and potentially give up out of frustration. The Tae Kim cram method leads to failure more often than not. I've seen it happen time and time again, and it'll continue to happen. The toxic attitude towards other, more surefire methods of study is part of the problem.

Telling people they're retarded for building a strong base for immersion is beyond idiotic and adds to the cycle of failure. There's no reason to rush. Not rushing isn't the same as being glued to a textbook for 10 years, which is what you seem to believe, which is hilarious.

I went through Genki 1, 2, its workbooks, 2300 kanji and 3400 (13 kanji a day, all associated key vocab for relevant readings) vocab in KKLC in around 6 months starting out and later did 75/25 immersion and Tobira and it was painless. If I went with the meme approach, I'd probably still be torturing myself with reading Unison Shift VNs at snail's pace while pulling my hair out.

>>25437195
I would be infinitely more frustrated if I had to grind 2000 flashcards rather than actually learn Japanese. They definitely help the weak and/or retarded though.

>>25438274
Using a mouseover dictionary and a text hooker isn't "learning Japanese," Clephas.

>>25438360
>you don't learn languages through comprehensible input
Are you actually retarded?

>>25438542
>let me just use this crutch with less than zero knowledge
>surely it will stick one day, for now i will coom

>>25438360
>>25438691
This. I don't want to be tied to a text hooker. I want to be able to read things on my own, independently. If that means taking a bit more time to get a good grounding then that's fine.

>>25438860
Text-hooking is still useful for learning if you treat it as a tool for creating mining decks and not just for hand-holding. Solely relying on it for comprehension gets you nowhere, though. Without kanji, or at least radical knowledge, kanji will just look like squiggly lines forever and a MO dictionary becomes your primary way of reading instead of a tool for learning.

>>25439141
Right, even if you don't use a mining deck, it would be a pain in the ass to look words up if you didn't have the text hooker already extracting them for you.

>>25434788
>which usually takes 3 - 6 months of self study to get through and know by heart
Only for Europeans

>>25362110
Hadaka Shitsuji

>>25438691
It started sticking from day one, thanks for your concern though.

>>25440364
Only if you are Autistic.

>>25477670
Only if you are a NEET.

>>25478328
Not wrong there

>>25478328
If you are self-educating you technically aren't a NEET anymore.

>>25483003
technically we're always learning, thus in always in education/training
so you can never be a neet

>>25488066
New thread up with the updates for this week

Faggot janitor deleted the new thread again. Hey fucking idiot, this is not a general. It's a weekly update thread. There's a new thread every week.

>>25499428
>Faggot janitor deleted the new thread again
Not really a surprise anymore

>>25499428
>Wow nothing happened.
>Wow, literally nothing.
>Nothing happened indeed.
some update

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