/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Lol amerikans?

IT'S A CHICK BOOK FOR G-G-G-GIRLS

>>2530467
You could always get the hardcover if you don't like that cover.

Softcover: Red.
Hardcover: Haruhi.

That said, get both.

It's like weeaboo on stealth mode. Even the English words "The Melancholy" are huge and completely overshadow the moongibberish name. Maybe they're hoping the book will appeal to non-weeaboos this way.

Hopefully someday we will see the Strike Witches series released in English.

>>2530499

GB2 /k/ !

>>2530499
Its already licensed.

Not all that bad cover.

Anyhow, light novels are basically the japanese equivalent for chicklit. What a tauntful concept, by the way.

I cannot believe I actually read all of these at the time. It is Harry Potter level of embarrassment. Yes, I happened to read all HPs too at some point. Not only that, I bought some of them. The shame.

>>2530491
And this is why they will invariably fail.

Instead of trying to make whatever it's made of fashionable (and we all know Haruhi is built upon Japanese visual culture cliches), they seem to try to pass it off as a something completely mundane. Newsflash, faggots, mundane means uninteresting, and noone will care if you yourself are sorry for and embarassed about what you publish.

Oh, well, not that I mind or care myself. Unless they start sending C&D to bakatsuki, in which case I'll immediately start hoping they go bankrupt.

>>2530499

Strike Witches.
Only good for dakka and pantsu and nothing else. But for dakka and patsu, it reigns supreme.

>>2530523
Oh yeah, I know the TV anime will be on R1 DVD, but I was talking about the novel series. Sorry for not being more specific.

>>2530534
Hey, some US young adult series are pretty damn good.

>>2530545

Enjoy your crappy and inaccurate translations.

>>2530557
I do not read american literature but thanks anyway. I do not even use american technology such as microwave oven out of principle.

>>2530545
But they have both types. 'Trendy' for casuals and 'original' for fans such as yourself.

>>2530534
If by "chick" you mean "male nerd between the ages of 16-40", then yes.

>>2530573
>I do not even use american technology such as microwave oven out of principle.
haha, oh fuck.

>>2530573
>I do not read american literature but thanks anyway. I do not even use american technology such as microwave oven out of principle.

The worst thing about this is I can't even tell if you're kidding.

>>2530573
Weeabooism is a cancerous disease that is dangerous to our society.

>>2530573

Why are you on the Internet then?

>>2530579
...

Frankly, that just made me sad. To make me happy again, please try to reread what I wrote and try to understand it this time.

I really like that cover. Too bad I don't like the content very much. That cover makes me want to buy it, though. It's really nice.

>>2530603
Because there is nothing about the internet that is elementally american. I do abstain myself from using american service cites of viewing american media, though.

>>2530596
Well, I am a person of principle. And truly, it is not that difficult when you do not live in USA.
In a way, I just strive onward to keep my culture pure. On personal level, though.

>I do not even use american technology such as microwave oven out of principle.

>>2530614
I think you should reread >>2530579.

>>2530614
Pictures of anime girls tend to ward off casual readers, so yeah. Their decision is probably more effective than yours unless you want sparkles and "HANNAH MONTANA" on the cover.

>>2530614
oh noes they want to sell to another demographic, and have compromised the integrity of the original work. holy shit cry more

>>2530632

I don't know how anybody can take your posts seriously.

>>2530632
>I do not even use american technology
>Because there is nothing about the internet that is elementally american.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

>>2530644
I know there's a tool that lets you ignore posts on 4chan, but is there anything that lets you always ignore posts from authors of certain names?

>>2530636

>unless you want sparkles and "HANNAH MONTANA"

I'm not saying I want that but I'm not saying I don't, either.

>>2530632
4chan is an American website.

>>2530644
And why is that? You know, I'm not an american, I do not live in america. And I do not sure want american influence around where I live.

I do not think that is such unreasonable thing. To respect oneself and ones culture.

>>2530648
It's the 'take it easy' button. It's at the top of the page, right under the 'General' part of '/jp/ - Japan/General'.

>>2530632
So why aren't you trying to keep your culture pure from Japanese influences, then?

>>2530648

Yeah, but I can't be bothered to remember where the script is.

>>2530656
4chan is an American website.

Go away now.

>>2530631
HOLY SHIT IT'S THE BOLONGA!

>>2530636
...once again:

>noone will care if you yourself are sorry for and embarassed about what you publish

>>2530467
AMMEERRIKKAA

>>2530679
They're making a business decision and they're trying to expand outside of the 'already downloaded from Japan' fans. What part of that don't you understand? It's not about being embarrassed. It's about selling the damn book.

>>2530661
Yes, some could argue that japanese culture is of americanism. At least it was tainted after the war.

>>2530679
I'm not sure what your point is? He's saying an animu-styled cover will ward off readers, leading to reduced sales. Hachette is a business, and is thus look to maximize sales.

Am I the only one that really likes that cover?

>>2530688
>They're making a business decision and they're trying to expand outside of the 'already downloaded from Japan' fans.

Which is a good idea. Most people who'd describe themselves as "fans" of Japanes media are just selfish torrenting 15-year olds.

>>2530688
That's not how you expand readership. You expand readership by showing people that what you sell is good and why. Not by trying to hide what the thing you're selling really is.

>>2530700
It's not horrible. But to me it's just "meh." I would definitely get the hardcover myself if I were actually a fan of Haruhi.

>>2530709
Yes, because you, a college drop-out who spends his time masturbating to eroge, know more about business than the large crack marketing-veterans of one of the US's largest YA publishing houses.

>>2530709

You're naive

>>2530709
>You expand readership by showing people that what you sell is good and why.
And how do you do this? People don't actually read everything they come across at the bookstore. They look at the book cover and make a decision on the spot. The casual cover will get the 'ooh, snazzy' reaction making the person more likely to pick it up and give it a skim. The original version is useless for that since the people that are into stuff like that are mostly likely anime/manga fans and already know about Haruhi. The most it'll probably get from a casual would be 'oh, a cartoon book' and they'll just go one to the next.

>>2530709
You're the kind of person that thinks quality products make sales.
They don't.

>>2530720
>Can't argue with that, but I can't admit it, I'll use ad personam and appeal to authority instead.

...if you don't understand that the only thing that matters in anonymous discussion is arguments, then what are you doing here?

Anyways, screw that. Why did I even bother in the first place.

>Not by trying to hide what the thing you're selling really is.
Someone needs to learn what advertising means.

>>2530636
Wonder why that is?

Do most people dislike anime? I always assumed that most people just hadn't heard of it.

>>2530752
'Cartoons are for children'. It's sort of true, but what's wrong with being a child at heart?

>>2530754
Children are immature, if they see you doing child stuff, they'll expect you to call sick the next day so you can marathon your next show.

>>2530754

>what's wrong with being a child at heart?

Live the dream, partner.

>52 posts in a haruhi thread
weekend indeed

>>2530763
>assumes op has anything to do with content of thread.
Gee, I see you here all the time but you don't learn, do you?

>>2530735
But then a "casual" that would get averted by the pic on the cover will get averted by the contents instead.

And "how" is a different question that I, frankly, don't know the answer for. I'm just saying they won't succeed unless they do it.

>>2530751
There's a difference between advertising that hides bad sides of what you sell, and advertising that tries to sell one thing as something completely different. You don't see motocycles promoted as cars, for example.

>>2530763
Not at all, we already had this thread before.

http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/cgi-board.pl/thread/2441833

And it's /jp/ related.

>>2530771
Because there's simply a bigger chance of them reading it. Compare the two situations:

1) Person A sees book, is turned off, and goes off somewhere else.
2) Person A sees book, is interested, and picks up the book maybe even reading the back.

Do you frequent bookstores?

>>2530771

>will get averted by the contents instead.

I honestly believe that isn't true. In fact, most of the things /jp/-related wouldn't do that if they were presented in other formats.

>>2530771
>sell one thing as something completely different
So instead of selling YA literature... they're selling YA literature?

Cover Sigh is orange with a film reel instead of the storm cloud and it beats the hell out of moeblob in a maid outfit.

itt: AO trolls /jp/

>>2530771
Yes well, if they would blatantly advertise this Haruhi crap with the real badly drawn manga cover no one would buy it.

People would mistake it for manga and then the people who mistook it for manga are let down when it is a real book. And who wants to read manga-esque books when we know that most part of the comics are lame.

This type of low-value entertainment has several target groups.
People who are fans
Infantiles and children
People who buy them as gifts
Random people who stumble upon it and buy it because it looks nice

No idea why people are bitching about a cover change when the translation itself is perfectly fine.

>>2530808
Fuck you. Noizi is love.

>>2530789
Yes, it may help to sell a few more copies, but won't make the book popular in the first place. Quite the contrary, because people who buy something by chance are more likely to be dissapointed and create bad publicity for it. And people are more likely to be dissapointed when what they get isn't what they expected.

>>2530812
Because imagery is important in moe products, it's a highly Visual-based culture.

I don't have a huge problem with it myself, though, the hardcover is perfectly fine compromise.

>>2530818

>people who buy something by chance are more likely to be dissapointed and create bad publicity for it.

Why bother even trying to sell anything. Amirite?

>>2530814

She draws fairly good, except all her characters wind up having the same faces. This becomes a problem when most of her characters wind up being absolutely terrible and every other character looks like the previous one.

>>2530818
And the opposite can happen.

There's a term called "being pleasantly surprised". When you don't have an expectations for it, good becomes great and bad becomes meh. This "disappointed and bad publicity" thing only comes when the hype fails.

>>2530808
>I DO NOT LIKE SOMETHING, THEREFORE IT MUST BE LOW-BROW ENTERTAINMENT

meru, you are a bad troll.

>>2530829
I guess I'm lucky because I like the faces so it's just more to love.

>>2530825

>Because imagery is important in moe products

But if you take Haruhi out of the "moe" package it'll just be a young adult sci-fi/fantasy/whatever novel. I'm sure that appeals to some people.

Haruhi's core has nothing to do with Japanese culture. It's dumbed down SF for high schoolers. Moe fags are the only ones who care about the art.

>>2530841
I apologise. As we know, these novels are truly the literary masterpiece.

What the original publisher saw in it. I do not know. I would not have published this but instead mugged the author.

>>2530868
They're not literary masterpieces, only mildly interesting reads if you're into that kind of thing.

You are not a literary critic or publisher because you believe that your personal tastes somehow define culture itself, and that anyone who isn't of the same mind should be beaten down for being a rube.

You are a bad troll, too.

>>2530864
Moe is the only thing worthwhile in Japanese culture, though.

Why don't you faggots just ignore the obvious troll is obvious?

So how is the quality of the HC edition? Translation? Any changes because of different target audience?

>>2530916
I beg to differ.

>>2530839
...true, but that's operating under assumption that Haruhi is good enough to generate a following simply by being released. Well, it happens, but it's not really a wise thing to count on.

...but, yeah, if that's the case, I was wrong with the "being embarassed" part. Instead, I should berate them for being overly optimistic.

>>2530928
Well, you're just a big meany pants then.

>>2530884
Well, my dream job would be publishing manager in so such company.

And I would truly be the ace since my cultural senses come naturally. In a way I'm pretty serious with this statement. But do I have the education or the emotional character to do it? Perhaps not.

>>2530467
viral marketing is viiiiiiral

>>2530789
No there isn't. Common sense is still superior to your faulty marketing propaganda

>>2530973
Like it or not, people do judge the book by its cover.