/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Why

Uh, why?

You realize you won't even be able to use most of its features on a non-Japanese network, right? I don't even know if they're locked to the network or require subscription.

>>2520207

Not everyone here is a loser.

Try Ebay, expect to pay $400+. You also to buy an unlocker.

>>2520207

Not everyone here is a loser.

Try Ebay, expect to pay $400+. You also need to buy an unlocker.

Does Japan even use the Sim card system? I don't think DoCoMo phones work in the US.

>>2520234

They do.

>>2520232
>Not everyone here is a loser.
>Giant Wolf of Darkness

>>2520247

I'm cooler than you.

>>2520234
they dont.
but some phones have sim capabilities.
but you HAVE to be on the plan for x years you cant buy the phone outright. thats what they told me when i bought my phone.
also, you will need to find a place to unlock it to global roaming and theres only so few places that do that according to my old boss.

also, as stated above, most of its defining features will not work outside a japanese network.

in short, you're just a weeaboo that wants a japanese phone because its 'kawaii' and you can just brag to your friends and girls that you meet.

>>2520234
>SIM card
I don't know any cell phone (besides old analog network ones) that don't use SIM cards.

But seriously, this is dumb. Even assuming you can unlock the phone, you wouldn't be able to use their main features, like mail gateways and stuff on your current network, so what's the point?

>>2520255
Not exactly big talk on /jp/

>>2520262
Lots and lots of pre-paid companies lack sims
Virgin Mobile, for instance.

Okay.. So they the phones main features won't work outside of Japan.. Thanks for shoving the information up my ass. You could be a bit more subtle you know.

Fucking typo...

>>2520273
from what i've seen travelling to different countries, most phones do have a sim slot, even if the country or area doesnt utilise sim.

but then again, if a Razor was released in the states it pretty much will be released elsewhere so whats the point of getting one in the states?

back to OP: japanese phone or no japanese phone, chicks and dudes dont care where its from, just if its features CAN be used.

>>2520300
That *was* subtle.

or did you want twenty flaming faggots with broken capslock keys telling you the exact same thing?

>>2520266
But still, Im cooler than you!

Quess what. FUCK YOU.

ITT, niggas don't know bout GSM.

>>2520307
I've never had a phone that took a SIM card.

It would be nice, since getting new phones means I have to do the number swap again....

No

OP here.. This is my second post.

What a bunch of faggotry

ITT, people who don;'t know the major differences between GSM and CDMA networks

>>2520842
>the major differences between GSM and CDMA networks
Should this be knowledge every person should have?

>>2520842
CDMA is 3G, moron.

Are you implying Japan doesn't use GSM?

I have a softbank phone now, me lovers it.

There is a shop in Akiba on the main drag that sells unlocked Japanese phones for good prices.

They have some Docomo ones there also.

Also, box is just the AC charger, don't get too excited.

>>2520191
http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/09/24/importing-a-japanese-mobile-phone/

>>2520977
So basically, if you're American, you can forget about it.

You can sort of pull it off if you're European and your zone has good UMTS coverage, but why bother?

>>2520973
Is that the panasonic 705p?

I got one of those at a random 7/11 for 50 bucks bra

>>2520262
Verizon phones don't use sim cards.

>>2521009
actually its this in grey, Samsung 821SC

1. Stop being a weeaboo
2. Buy one of pic related
3. ???
4. Profit!

>>2521043
Sorry, I hate the iPhone.

>>2521045

I'll enjoy mine for the both of us, then.

>>2521043
What are you a faggot?

Hard keyboards > Touch screen keyboards

As much as you (and many many others, including myself) would love to have a Japanese phone, the simple fact that we live in America makes it too much of a pain in the ass to go through with it... along with having to pay a shitload for the most recent phones on ebay (~$600+, the ~$400 ones are for the old ass models). Just buy a nice phone that your current company offers and be done with it. This is one aspect of your life that is too much of a pain to weeaboo out.

OP here. Forgot to mention that I'm from Finland.

Quick question....

Why do you want a japanese phone?

Why do you even want a Japanese phone?

What's so great about it?

Oniichan i wantz ur phonez

http://howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=5b4cf4d948010dba25fc4ee20d813141&f=418

They know alot about Japanese phones.

>>2520234
>Does Japan even use the Sim card system? I don't think DoCoMo phones work in the US.

It illegal to switch Sim cards in Japan. A Chinese guy did that by bringing 1 yen Japanese phones to China and he got arrested and thrown into jail.

>>2521092
Have you even seen their phones compared to ours?
We're like a decade behind.

>>2520973
Where may this store be located in Akiba? My 2 year old softbank is acting up and its already past its warranty so repairs are going to cost just as much as purchasing a new phone.

>>2521139
Um, no faggot. People switch sim cards all the time in Japan. There's businesses made from that notion

http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270372805229

http://cgi.ebay.com/DoCoMo-FOMA-SH906i-NEW-Japan-Phone-500MP-Hypersim_W0QQitemZ270381295828QQcmdZVie
wItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item270381295828&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|
65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A2|294%3A50
Fuck the faggots who thinks it wont work outside Japan. There's always something.

>>2521195

I think it was near the corner just across the street from Toranoana. I don't remember the name and I tossed the receipt...my bad. Next time I'm there I'll pay attention. You'll see it, its a small mom and pop looking place.

>>2520892

If you've ever tried to use international roaming in japan you learn it in a painful way.

While we're on the topic. What's the most economic way to acquire a phone for a ~6 month stay in Japan?

Do they have pay-as-you go phones like in the US or are they all strictly contract bound (will I have to sign up for a full year?). Fluent, so walking into a store and setting up an account is no issue, I'm just talking money-wise.

I have a 920sh, and SX862(the export version of 920sh)

you need to do some config on your own, but I enjoy the only 1 not using a fag iPhone on the train.

also, picked up a japanese chick using the phone as a conversation starter.

>>2521622
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>2521683

no ,why?

>>2521683
Thta's around $60 and $30, respectively.

>>2521622
you paid that much for a cellphone?

>>2521708
funny thing is i bought it because I saw konata using it in lucky star episode 16.

I'm such a fag.

The only things I've heard is that they can be used to pay for things, because they have a built-in RF paypass thing, and that they can get ATSC tv.

I don't understand the appeal of the payment thing, because it just encourages people to steal your cell phone, and broadcast TV sucks in the US.

I've also heard they're notoriously hard to use, and that nobody ever uses a lot of the features their phones offer in japan for this reason.

Is there something else compelling?

>>2521691
>>2521702
Am I missing something here?
From the phones specs, I wouldn't pay more than $400 for it; and I'm australian, so it's more like $325 to you.

>>2521166
How so?

>>2521622
>>2521691
>>2521731
It's me the aya fag.

>>2521683

WHAT!?

>>2521792

so another piece of the puzzle falls into place.

ok so compared to modern japanese phones, how does the iphone compare in terms of accessibility, portability, durability, and utility? (has no idea on the current technology of phones)

>>2521823

I have to say, iPhone 3G is still better in term of "usefulness". But too many people are using them.

cell phone cost more than 300?

It's a fair price for a phone.

>>2521823

Now that you can get a refurbished iPhone on the cheap there really is no reason not to get one, though I'm sure someone will happily come along and give you some reasons.

They're a bit fragile, having a touchscreen. Not the sort of thing for klutzy people or butterfingered people.

I can't believe Anon has such an expensive phone.

I guess you're more of a social butterfly than I originally thought. You must be calling up girls and texting your bros 24/7.

>>2521877
>Not the sort of thing for klutzy people or butterfingered people.
>apple product
w

>>2521836
The iPhone is like a cancer on my campus. Everyone fucking has one. Even the poorfags.

Me? I use a dinky little LG prepaid phone from Net10. Shit's so cash.

>>2521885

This is why there are so many people at AT&T and the Apple Store clutching broken iPhones like babies to their chests, begging the staff to do something to their little dead child.

I put my iPhone in a case and you can have my word that I guard it with my life. I do not text and drive, I don't throw my iPhone around, I do not leave it in precarious or unsafe positions.

>>2521898
Have you ever wondered why Apple products are all made of Aluminium, touchscreens and glass? Because they scratche, shatter and bend really fucking easily.
Then you have to buy a new one, or pay for the repairs.

Apple is milking their own customer stupidity and loyalty.

>>2521924
but the product (itouch) is so versatile.

>>2521924

I've grown used to the fact that this is not the 80's, and technology is a lot more brittle than before.

I miss the days when you could kick a computer, and that would improve its performance if it was being finicky. Nowadays you'd break the LED Lighting and casefans and what have you.

Eventually we'll be going OH NO I BENT MY IPHONE 4G IN HALF GOTTA GO TO THE APPLE STORE LOLOL.

I never understood why the phones here look so garish and "overstyled" compared to the ones in Japan. Market demographics?

Touchscreen keyboards aren't too bad, except that you have to look at them, and they need to be on a larger screen.

But anyway, the iPhone is an overrated fashion statement and made by a bunch of wankers. Ignore it. Find something else. Hell, maybe you'll get a phone that doesn't require signing your life away.

>>2521951

I wouldn't call the iPhone a fashion statement, but overrated it most certainly is. It's a nice, stable smartphone for the money, though. Nothing to orgasm over.

>>2521947

because in japan, iPhone is shit. Product or service wise.

apple is the near sighted fucktard leading the blind in america, but in japan, everyone has near perfect vision.

>>2521963
Ironic

>>2521071
Finland? Well, my wife has a softbank phone from when we lived in Japan. I bought an unlocking card from huuto.net and did manage to get it working in Finland, but there were some serious issues:

-ä and ö show up as blank spaces in SMS messages, which makes some words extremely hard to figure out. (ötökkä becomes " t kk " and so on)

-Against all my expectations, the phone actually wasn't just FOMA (the japanese version of 3G), but it also had GSM capabilities. This one was a surprise as Japan does not even have a GSM network. Anyway, this turned out to be lucky because the phone would not accept calls or receive SMS in 3G mode. I had to manually force it to use just GSM to get it to work.

-Only the basic funtions of the phone would work. If I tried to turn on the camera or something, the phone would just give an error saying it needs to update some network stuff. This might be fixable with a more expensive unlocking card but nothing I could do would work. I took the phone to Japan with me and tried it with a friend's softbank SIM card and everything would work fine, but when I inserted the unlocking card and a Finnish SIM card, it just stopped working.

I know some of the issues we had are model-specific so you might have better luck. Still, I would expect the ä & ö to be a problem with any model, the TV receivers will not work in Finland, and I'm pretty sure most models have a similar way to lock certain features in the phones.

Long story short, I wouldn't recommend it. Top of the line nokia models beat the crap out of the Japanese phones anyway.

>>2521951
give me an example where a touchscreen keyboard is more useful than a normal keyboard.

>>2521975
Operating any kind of GUI is easier on a touch screen. Think about it for a moment.

>>2521962
>stable
Isn't the main complaint about the iPhone the constant freezing it does?

>>2521975
I didn't say they were better than tactile keyboards. I said they weren't as bad as people make them out to be. Anyway, it doesn't work too well on the iPhone. The key area would require stabbing with my pinky.

I agree with anon. Japanese phones are compact and lightweight. I don't care if I can't write ä or ö.. And I wouldn't give two fucks about TV. I like the style of Japanese phones because they're easy to handle and shit. That's why I'd like to have one.

-OP

>>2522006

I can type with my thumbs. You must have freakishly large hands, or fat fingers.

>>2521992

If you think that's bad, WinMo is even worse. Personally, my iPhone has yet to crash on me, but I did lose all my data at one point. It was because of my own error, though. There are apps you can buy to improve stability, too.

>>2522019
hang loose bro.

>There are apps you can buy to improve stability, too.
lol wut

>>2522019
It's not so much about being able to write them, it's about reading messages other people send to you.

>easy to handle
Have you actually handled one?

Anyway if it's just the look you want, I suggest you take a look at Chinese phones. You can order them fairly cheaply online and they don't need to be unlocked or anything.

srsly why is phone in Japon more good than here

I have an iPhone and my Japanese phone. Here in the US, my iphone is fine, and does a lot more for me. Personally if I had gotten the unlocked JP phone first I'd be using that instead, but since I'm already in an iPhone its all good.

The JP phone is rugged, easy to handle, a flip phone (which i prefer) folds out nice and long so the mouth piece is actually IN FRONT OF YOUR MOUTH. Amazing sound quality, intuitive functionality (even in weaboo english mode) and built in text smilies! (^_^)\/

But really, until you actually use one, doesn't seem like much more than a cool looking flip phone. So I can see why there are so many shitty opinions on here.

>>2521974

you complain because you never researched about 3G frequencies in other countries.

Different regions sets their own standards.

You are using a japanese OS to write your finland crap, of course it wouldn't work that well. It's like saying Lemme read dis eastern asia language without localization pack on ma computa.

If you like japanese phones, find the ones that do work outside japan or find the export model.

Or if you have half a brain , you can just follow instructions online to flash the phone or other work arounds that will allow you to use more functions.

not hard people jesus christ.

Just do research first, from bottom up, frequencies, services, language compatibilities.

not that hard half brain finland tard and your tard wife.

>>2522030
>There are apps you can buy to improve stability, too.

HAHAHAHA

>>2522053
did you miss my intuitive post?

I'd love to, but I can't find any. And what's the point? Since I've decided on this there's no reason to stop now. Besides, It's not like finnish is some arabic bullcrap that no one understands. It's just two fucking letters. Not a big loss. Especially since most of my friends speak english.

ok

Lol I don't have a wife I'm 21 for fuck sake.

Failure

OP Isn't completely a fag. It's true that Japanese phones are well made and nice to use in general.

I have a Japanese keitai. The TV thing aside, It's working just fine for me. And I'm glad I bought it.

>>2522061
>>2522068
loltroll.

Anyway, I'm equally bored so:

-3G in Finland and FOMA use the same frequency genius. My N95 works fine in Japan. If some phone works in one but not the other, it's likely due to some ridiculously obscure detail in how its chip works. That kind of information just isn't available to normal people, and to the best of my knowledge, no one has gone and tested each phone model in both networks either.

-Where did you get the idea I was complaining? We bought the Japanese phone for use in Japan, but since I tried to get it to work in Finland (mostly for the "lulz") I have a pretty good idea of the restrictions you'd run into if you try the same, and that's basically what the op wanted to know. Hence my post.

-Finally, no one offered flashing for the model in question at the time. Some expensive unlock cards claimed to be able to retain the multimedia functions in certain scenarios that didn't apply to me (and won't apply to op unless he goes to Japan to buy the camera).

-No japanese phone has support for Finnish. No amount of research is going to help with that.

>>2522116
the phone, not the camera

fuck

>>2522116

then why are you complaining? it's all your problems, you should've just stfu and lurk maor

>>2522121
take it easy, kiddo

Is it not possible to get a good phone for less than $300?

anon is a dick. just where in that post was anon complaining? does not compute fuck shit and some ass fuck fuck

>>2522073
Sorry for seconding and backing up your opinion?

Whose opinion?

I thought that if your phone is quadband you can use it world wide no?

>>2522144

Sure but without an contract, so you have a prepaid

Wow, I really hope the swine flu kills of most of you. Touhou is one thing, this is upping your weaboo faggotry to sky high levels. Go much on some pocky.

Japanese phones are lightyears ahead of American phones but that's only because there's a stronger demand for high-tech phones in Japan. They're more like ultra portable computers that can be used as a substitute instead of owning an actual computer.

In America most people are satisfied with the ability to simply call and text. So until there's a more vocal demand for more advanced cell phones beyond "LOL TOUCHSCREEN" you'll just have to continue glowing with envy at the supa supa kawaii superior nihongo keitai.