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I want to FUCK Aoko

I want to FUCK Ciel and then MARRY Arcueid instead, as a prank

Imagine thinking Prillya OVAs have more meaning in them than being a lolicon bait

>>24910342
>This one I also rarely see in people's lists
That one is great but it does steal a lot from a classical piece whose name I don't remember right now. Mahoyo's OST is fucking god tier though. Arguably the best in any VN I've ever read.

>>24909094
I'm not saying there should be H in Mahoyo, but god damn have you seen Aoko's body?

Fate Requiem Vol 2 illustration
https://imgur.com/a/nOSVMmV

>>24921469
Is this good though

>>24918024
It's from Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet.

Rin is the best type moon

>>24924954
That phrase triggers my TM terminology autistic degree.
Can I hit him?

>>24921469
Hopefully the digital version will be released at the same time with the physical version next time

>>24912206
why is she turning her head away?

>>24912206
Excellent OP.

>>24928340
Yes.
>>24924954
Nothing from Fate is best Type Moon.
Sans a choice for best scene or perhaps best route.
Characters go to the other franchises.
Rin especially is simply inferior to her predecessors.
The ridiculous spamming on /a/ hasn't helped my opinion.

>>24929861
Aoko is quite chunni at times for lack of a better term.

>>24913303
Calm down, Satan.
Good things never come of sinful passions.
>>24918024
As much as it would make me go full coomer for eternity, it just doesn't sit right with me.

>>24918024
>have you seen Aoko's body
Oh, on that we agree, Aoko is obscenely hot.

>>24930304
Quite literally built to be bred until she's a quivering, drooling mess of ahegao. How can her sister even compete?

>>24930304
>>24930500
Behave already.

So, after analyzing
>What Nasu has been saying on blogposts and interviews
>Takeuchi words on Nasu's over investment in his works
>The early 2016 manga from acpi and his eventual addition to the guest writer list on FGO site
>The references on FGO
>The delays on works like Fragments
>StudioBB director Kazuya Niinou inverview
>Fate Extra Record date announcement and pic related
I can, although not 100% safely but close, assume that Nasu is autisticaly planning things based on dates he established more than 15 years ago at least.
That hypothesis came to my mind first when
>1.Nasu impled in one of his interviews that he planned first for a synced UBW anime ending, FGO ending and Tsukihime Remake release.
>2.This connection is also supported by what can be read in acpi manga, on vol2 specifically.
>3.He changed it for some bullshit he didn't explain, making FGO longer than he intended it to be (the division of Fate worlds and Tsukihime worlds was also somewhat in the same time period).
>4.Eventually, lots of references to things related to Fragments came to be on FGO, then Fragments is delayed, more and more references to Fragments elements are showed on FGO and eventually Requiem is selected for the collab of this year, although there was no reason for it to be while Fragments had all the reasons to be.
This allied with the fact that Zelretch vs Brunested is chronologically set to happen 200 before Arthurian legend and on Britain, made me think that Lostbelt 6 will be if not about, at least related to some extent to Millenium Castle Brunestud and its subjects. I say this because of the naive princess that made Beryl shit his pants and also recent theories regarding that Avalon = Millenium Castle Brunestud most fitting location.
I ruled it out because of the LB6 divergence being 500AD, which actually might be something related to either Arthur or Mordred.
Either way, I kinda left off such theory until, well, Fate/Extra remake was announced.
Now, Nasu already has pointed out that he wanted a remake on interviews. And Kazuya Niinou kind of said that he would help Nasu close the "Fate festival" with /Extra. So nothing here to surprise us.
However, Nasu also commented that he was receiving updates on Extra Record progress...
There is a moment in CCC where Rani points out a date that is coincidentaly, the stream date that was one week prior been marked with a timer.
We also know that Nasu is a fucking autist through Takeuchi descriptions of how much insistent Nasu is on making memorable experiences like the ones he had as a child. Takeuchi even trolls how much text Nasu writes.
I think that when Kazuya showed him that they could make an announcement, Nasu checked his personal autistic calendar of important dates (like CCC) and said "whoa, ok, make a timer and a stream the best way you can as we need to do it on this date!"
>Yeah, it was an expected date because it was when Extra was released.
Yeah, but he fucking put it on CCC like it was some important date already. 7 years prior.
When he was already planning FGO plot.
I bet that Nasu planned things with his ass plus with this autistic ideas to still connect whatever Fragments will offer, FGO ending and Tsukihime Remake release (or PV). He probably was planning to do that on 2017 with the manga release of acpi, but then he changed idea seeing that "2020 will be the next perfect moment to do everything" and also considering that after all FGO $hekels he should wait and invest in something better (after games and mushroom noodles expenses).
Why?
Fate would be finally closed with Extra remake (that he was planning all those years) and the most important: Tsukihime 20th anniversary was the next best date to focus on Tsukihime.
So, assuming such autism is a fact (and you really can't deny that Nasu spergniness) and that most probably Nasu is delaying everything to make a GRAND transition from Fate to Tsukihime, wouldn't it be, let's say, valid to also assume he will make some updates on Tsukihime Remake in a spectacular fashion on December 2020 like, let's say, was done with Extra Record? (if not the release?). This would also explains why the Lostbelts are taking so much more time between them lately, even though they have litterally no reason to take such delay (most of the content is already done for a lot of reasons that can be researched easily).
I will laugh my ass off if Lostbelt 6 or the new FGO opening have a reference to Tsukihime at some level (betting on some cameo of Archetype Earth). If that shit happens, than December 2020 the Remake will forcibly be made relevant again and litteraly all FGOfags will seethe because everything is being changed in spite of them kek. It wouldn't even surprise me if the so called FGO shutdown happened.

Would shiki win in a fight against batman? assuming they both started in their houses and had to start from finding their opponent

>>24931170
which shiki

>>24931196
banana shiki

>>24931228
batman btfo no questions asked

>>24931035
>I ruled it out because of the LB6 divergence being 500AD, which actually might be something related to either Arthur or Mordred.
500AD is when the last remaining True Ether on Britain disappeared and the Clocktower finally set their headquarter there, LB6 divergence is likely going to be relevant to the True Ether stuff. On the other hand, i'm 100% sure that the Spiritual Tomb Albion or to be more exact, the physical path that leads to Avalon/innersea inside it will play be an important plot point in LB6 with all those build-up since Case Files final arc, LB5, MHXX Valentine scene, Secret Files section written by Nasu in CF mats, what Merlin said before (that someday he wants the MC to go to meet him at his place instead of the other way around)

>recent theories regarding that Avalon = Millenium Castle Brunestud most fitting location.
I don't know what is the basis for this theory but first off, Avalon is the innersea of the planet, the Earth's core and the seat of the Earth's soul (the 1970 ritual in Extraverse managed to damage this place, thus Overcount 1999 happened) so it's very unlikely that Crimson Moon's lair would be there, like there's no mention/hint of it being influenced by the moon. I don't think Avalon would fit with this description
>It is existing in the location closest to the moon, not topographically, but where the world receives the most influence of the moon.
Anyway Case Files material has a small bit regarding Millenium Castle Brunestud that it's a forest, if anything.

If they want to make a connection between Tsukihime side and LB6, then i can see them touch on Archetype:Earth and her being a resident of Avalon (A:E stage was called inner sea of the planet which is literally Avalon's title), maybe. Though to be honest, i don't even know if Arcueid exists in Fate world or not.

>>24931035
Are you that kind of person who believe/speculate that the female voice at the end of Lostbelt trailer is Archetype's voice?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_WycGcc_Tdc

>>24931433
Actually if Avalon = Millenium Castle, would Zelretch be able to withstand the atmosphere at that place? I'm not sure that 300AD would be considered "this era"
>"But this is really quite a terrible place... the magic in the air is so thick, it might as well be a vacuum. Just single breath would sunder any living man of this era. The paradise of legend, indeed... perhaps can it be better employed as a weapon?"

>>24931433
>LB6 divergence is likely going to be relevant to the True Ether stuff. On the other hand, i'm 100% sure that the Spiritual Tomb Albion or to be more exact
Yeah, I've been reading about it. There will be obviously a focus on Britain things, that Rhongo bongo is clealy a tease of Avalon fucking fairy power.
My real point is that, assuming the nature of Arcueid as a higher fairy and that Roa was btfo by Dante, it would be plausible to think that Millenium Castle Brunestud was there with a loli arcueid doing her thing.

>I don't know what is the basis for this theory but first off
I was refering exactly to what you wrote later > then i can see them touch on Archetype:Earth and her being a resident of Avalon

> the Earth's core and the seat of the Earth's soul (the 1970 ritual in Extraverse managed to damage this place, thus Overcount 1999 happened)
FGO timeline nature makes it uncertain if that is the case.
Also, the accounts of Aylesburi Valesti + Overcount 1999 are so poorly documented that Nasu could spawn whatever he wanted from it (like he did with ORT).

>Anyway Case Files material has a small bit regarding Millenium Castle Brunestud that it's a forest, if anything.
You mean Einnash? Well, it does indeed have a good basis consdering that Talk/Prelude kind of builds up inside a place that is very similar to, and maybe it is, Einnash. I would probably bet on that for LB7 if what I said proves wrong.

>Though to be honest, i don't even know if Arcueid exists in Fate world or not.
Nasu already implied all Tsukihime characters are kind of there, they are just either too irrelevant or too weak to be part of the plot. Check the last Nasu invterview for clarification.
>>24931493
>Are you that kind of person who believe/speculate that the female voice at the end of Lostbelt trailer is Archetype's voice?
I brought a seyuu specialist and we compared the sound font of Red Arcueid and some more low voice from A:E from Melty Blood. He said it had a good chance of being the same, although he thinks it is another Seyuu.
I think that voice will be clarified on the new opening.
>Actually if Avalon = Millenium Castle
Millenium Castle is inside Avalon (just to clarify).
>would Zelretch be able to withstand the atmosphere at that place?
Considering that he achieved Sorcery, he might have some tricks to isolate it.

>>24931433
>(the 1970 ritual in Extraverse managed to damage this place, thus Overcount 1999 happened)
Oh forgot to say, the way CHALDEAS work and the ritual of the lostbelts are kinda dependant on Earth's resources, so it would be weird if all that shit was happening for almost 50 years and Goetia being stopped was litterally irrelevant while Extrathings happened in parallel. Not denying the possibility, just calling how weird it would be.

>>24931798
>FGO timeline nature makes it uncertain if that is the case.
Don't know about FGO, but it's definitely the case in Extra given by what Twice said and the Overcount 1999 entry on Last Encore official website (unless what Twice said about Overcount 1999 and Leo being the one that caused it were all bullshit, but Leo didn't say anything against that or justified himself from being accused so who knows).
>オーバーカウント1999
>トワイスが語った謎の言葉。
>決定的な資源枯渇、人類の衰退の始まりの時期。
>その原因は不明とされる。
>人類では食いつぶせない筈の地球の資源は枯渇し、 世界から生命が生きていく為の力は失われた。
>地球はその魂とも言える核を傷つけられた、と彼は語るが……

>You mean Einnash?
It just says "the capital of the forest/forest capital" and that the battle between Zel and Crimson Moon took place at the Millenium Castle

>>24930304
>>24930640
Imagine spending all your free time larping as a Celtic sorceress. What a fucking nerd

>>24932654
Imagine being a blind retard who can't follow simple logic.
Scat is just Koyama not giving a shit, she is only compared to Misaya.

Holy fuck yand.re is full of type moon shit I didn’t even know existed. It’s great

>>24933459
>imagine getting this mad over a joke

>>24933816
Some people actually believe it.
Regardless, don't do that shit, alright?
It is the one thing I cannot stand above all.

>>24929914
Didn't ask

>>24934149
Always gonna happen.

>>24931035
actually depressing levels of cope.

also why would fgofags "seethe"
the vast majority of them don't care about the writing, it's just an excuse to engage in their dopamine addiction and to fap to characters, Tsukihime characters being in FGO will just be another onahole for them to collect, you're retarded for thinking it would be some sort of victory for Tsukihime when it would just end up being plagued by FGO cancer due to its inclusion

>>24935392
Not that anon, but yeah you're mostly right.
I feel that the people who want Tsukihime stuff in FGO most likely have not played the game.
A person I know keeps saying that he wants Arcueid in FGO, but he hasn't played the VN, he keeps saying "I'll wait until the Remake" I do feel a lot of people that ask for Tsukihime in FGO are like that.

>>24931035
This is next level delusion.
The hope that it would somehow reverse the situation and not just make it worse is beyond comprehension.

Anyone knows when was this CG used in FSN? I don't remember the specific part that has this scene.

>>24936490
I think somewhere in the Fate route during one of Shirou's dreams where he sees Saber's memories.

>>24931493
>Are you that kind of person who believe/speculate that the female voice at the end of Lostbelt trailer is Archetype's voice?
Is that something people actually believe? That's not Archetype Earth at all. It doesn't even remotely sound like her.

>>24929959
Unironically, what predecessors?

>>24936490
After Shirou and Saber escape from the Church, just before the preparations for the final battle.

>>24931035
Neat theory. Would be nice, but I'll keep my hopes relatively low.

>>24936502
>>24938582
Thanks a bunch anons!

>>24938899
Always the wise decidion indeed.

>>24931035
tldr nice cope

Have you read it yet, /tmg/?

>>24937380
This ain't hard.

>>24912206
which universe is Aoko from?

>>24945693
she's in like every timeline

>>24944359
one of these days

>>24945693
She is in basically every notable timeline.
Of course, the only one that truly matters is Mahoyo.

>>24945952
>>24946205
is the one we see in Tsukihime the same from Mahoyo?

>>24946232
>>24946232
Nasu says Mahoyo, CT2015 and Tsuki are in the same universe, but it makes no sense for Tsuki and Mahoyo to both happen (same town) so it must be a different timeline in that universe, whatever that even means. Aoko does mention a roommate teaching her martial arts in MB tho and it would be stretching to not make that person Shizuki, so you can infer Mahoyo still happened in whatever form in Tsuki timeline.
I fucking hate timelines/universes bullshit

Timelines are fake and gay. They don't exist. What is it that tells you Product 1 is in the same 'timeline' as Product 2? Some guy told you? The author, even? Why? If he wanted them to be the 'same continuity' he should have just made one Product instead of two. Lmao

FGO's biggest sin is switching from NVL to ADV

>>24946507
>If he wanted them to be the 'same continuity' he should have just made one Product instead of two
different products focus on different characters, explore different parts of the world building, and may have different themes.

>>24946507
Fuck multiverse bullshit, fuck the author, Mahoyo/Tsukihime/FSN can happen in the same world

>>24946664
Pretty sure FGO would still be a massive pile of shit if it was NVL

>>24946681
Tsu and FSN still have different routes within their own stories, so multiverse has been around since forever.

>>24946664
Even fucking Extra did the black box text thing with a first person POV, that's one of the reasons FGO feels so hollow

>>24946328
>Nasu says Mahoyo, CT2015 and Tsuki are in the same universe
That line doesn't necessarily mean Tsuki and Mahoyo are the same timeline, just that Clocktower 2015 happened in both Tsukihime and Mahoyo worlds. Really, it depends on how we're supposed to take the comma but who the hell knows that besides the Mushroom man himself.
They're in the same universe/worldline yeah.

>>24946761
FGO does have first person POV for the self-insert MC though and also gives the MC actual dialogue and conversations with other characters. The problem is that they only started doing this much later and still this is really really fucking rare. On top of my head there are just LB1, LB4 and the Requiem collab.

>>24946681
>Mahoyo/Tsukihime
I mean, unless the Tohno or Kuonji are a bunch of lying fucks no it's not possible for Misaki to be the same town for both Tsuki and Mahoyo.

>>24946864
Most of the commentary on the MC is from 3rd person characters who constantly reaffirm how amazing the MC (aka the depressed gambling player) is.

>>24946328
Not to mention
>In Tsukihime, the Tohno Clan's ancestors were the landowners of Misaki City. In Mahoyo, the Aozaki clan have owned the land for hundreds of years.
>The Kuonji Mansion is located in the exact same location as the Tohno Mansion. The Tohno Clan appears to not exist at all in Mahoyo.
Unless Nasu's trying to say that sometime between the late 1980s and 2000 the Kuonji Mansion got completely demolished, a new mansion got built atop its ruins and Tohno Makihisa moved in, this doesn't really fly with Tsukihime at all.

>>24947046
>>24947081
Clearly it's just a different Misaki town written with exactly the same kanji. Don't be silly anons.

>>24946864
The MC in FGO is such a barebones character that I would rather have Mashu (who is slightly less barebones) be the main character. At least it'd be unique to have a Servant be the POV character

>>24947064
True but though rare, sometimes they still bothers to write the self-insert's monologues

>>24947116
It's the same town in different universes/timelines/whatever, yes. Like Fuyuki in Fate is the same as in Prsima.

>>24947350
Nasu clearly has a personal location that he tries to recreate constantly because it feels natural for him to write instead of making original locations constantly.

is it worth it going through KT blind, or is using a guide the way?

>>24947236
Someone post the shitpost of Guda's exploits

>>24944359
Nasu is such a bookworm

>>24947810
I got through KT almost completely without a guide
If you can't get the true ending then look at the guide otherwise you should be able to get like 98% of everything else done with just trial and error

>>24936490
Is that supposed to be Saber in the past or does it just represent the "girl" side of Saber (i.e Saber if she hadn't chosen the path of a king)?

I remember an anon here posted a site that says Touko's VA is listed in HF3 cast. Somebody noticed the same thing when they watched official HF3 trailer for Taiwan release on bilibili.

>>24951793
Maybe they'll have a little scene where she explain Puppet Shirou's body

>>24948417
Just a normal guy
so amazing so brave

>>24952583
Or her giving Medusa the Mystic Eyes killer glasses

>>24953836
The funny thing is that Nasu already did the "just a normal guy" character before (Mikikya).

>>24954817
that was back when he had soul
same with normal guy (fake)

>mind blown

>>24948753
is there any missable content?

>>24959019
I don't think so
You should unlock all the Ten Nights of Dreams just by playing through normally
The only thing I needed from the guide was the true ending

>>24959019
>>24959502
No there are scenes you can permanently miss in KT.

>>24959696
then I might just use a guide so I don't miss anything.

Tsukihime remake winter of 2020

So how come F/SN, Tsukihime, or Mahou Tsukai NEVER got an english release? F/SN is insanely popular in the west so why don’t they capitalize on it? They just do the shit R07 did and use the fan translation and clean it up a bit. It’s fucking ridiculous

>>24964445
EOPs don't deserve it

>>24964500
EOPs didn't ruin TM, JOPs did.
Check your privilege

>>24964445

>So how come F/SN, Tsukihime, or Mahou Tsukai NEVER got an english release? F/SN is insanely popular in the west so why don’t they capitalize on it?

Lel the anime ufo fsn made fsn more aware in the west.

In the west, I still think those titles are still niche don't really consider them "popular".

I mean shit desu TM have no reason to do it other than if someone throws a load of billions of money at them but why do that when you can milk them from fgo and merch.

>>24932050
>Oh forgot to say, the way CHALDEAS work and the ritual of the lostbelts are kinda dependant on Earth's resources,
What makes you say this? If you're talking about Ultra Olga, I assumed she needs fantasy lostbelt history to gain power. That's why the present proper history needed to leave, because would reject her. It's not Earth resources but the lost history. The PV said we're to face the evil/malice from lost history, so that was a flag.

Remember when Fate was about King Arthur duking it out with Heracles?

>>24961693
garbage twitter tier image

>>24967401
That is how /tmg/ gets a bad reputation after all.

>>24964445
Do most anime fans in the west even care about reading VNs? For all the popularity of FGO, most of them still don't bother to read the VN. Even though some Nitro+ VNs like Steins; Gate on english release via Steam, it's like most people still don't give a shit despite the anime being pretty big as well. You might get some western fans meme about doki doki lit club thing but in the end, it still feels like VN is super niche even among weeb media so it might not seem like it's worth it to spend the money and time to translate something as long as FSN.

>>24955868
I don't get it

>>24976518
Shirou already become Emiya regardless of whether he chooses to become seigi no mikata or not.

>>24964445
TM doesn't care about the west
TM has no reason to capitalize on everything because they have all the money in the world thanks to FGO
Maybe somebody told nasu about how bad aniplex is translating FGO as well.

>>24974541
>Do most anime fans in the west even care about reading VNs?
No. Anime is pretty casual tier now with the advent of several streaming services but things like manga and VNs are still niche.

>>24976518
archer is bullshitting to justify his hatred for his past self, without verifying if the one he's after is truly him.

>>24967333
I have been deliberately trying not to pay attention to it, but isn't it still about that? Isn't the problem that it is no longer about anything else with any depth to it?

When did Aoko become worse than Touko and Rin?

>>24979991
since day one

>>24979226
Yeah, servants were always the worst part of Fate

Currently rereading FSN and I just finished UBW
> "I found my answer. It's fine, Tohsaka. I'll do my best from now on as well."
>new dawn playing
It actually got me that was really fucking great. If Illya wasn’t in this game Archer might’ve been my favorite character

So how in the fuck did R07s Rose Gun Days get translated faster than Mahou Tsukai. It's been 8 years and translations still aren't done meanwhile RGD came out later and got translated sooner. Isn't the TM fanbase larger? Why did Nasu's latest VN take so much time to get translated? F/SN was translated faster.

>>24983682
TM english community is dogshit nobody that is good at japanese has any reason to sacrifice a large amount of their life for them
all the existing TLs are bad but you are expected to use terms they pulled out their ass
Game was cleary intended to have 2 sequels releasing soon after it with a few plot threads that aren't solved/clarified, the sequels are never coming
If you really like the atmosphere the game has you'll just get sad working on it for hundreds of hours knowing that said atmosphere has been abandoned by the parent company
If you really like the artwork the game has you'll just get sad working on it for hundreds of hours knowing the artist wants to do sequels but can't
FAN tl scene is general has died down because the world and internet aren't in the 2000s anymore.
R07 Tls are the exception because witch hunt are a very dedicated group of autists, If you look at other franchises like muv-luv, sci;adv, Shinza it's the exact same shit where nothing actually gets done. In the end being a fan translator is just the ultimate cuck move, you gain nothing but efame which is worth nothing. The only reason to actually do it if you're sane is that seeing other people enjoy something that you do makes you REALLY happy, which in 2020 just isn't the case for most people.

>>24983967
Hit the nail on the head I suppose. Didn't Mahou do well in Japan for a VN though? I know youtube views don't equal sales, but the soundtrack vids have hundreds of thousands of views with most of the commenters being from Japan. Does Nasu really just not care anymore now that FGO took off?

>>24984046
>Didn't Mahou do well in Japan for a VN though?
Someone linked it in a previous thread, but it's one of the top selling VNs of all time so yes.

>Does Nasu really just not care anymore now that FGO took off?
Yes. Also VNs are sadly a dying market.

>>24984139
Fucking hell then, put it on steam or something. Hire diehard fans that speak nip and english to translate it for cheap and localize it for fucks sake. I'm sure they have tons of people wanting to read the source material but can't because they think pirating will get them in jail.

>>24984181
Nasu has literally 0 reason to care about the western market
He is rich and other nip creators like the SAO guy suck him off all the time. He even got Miyazaki from FROM software to send in a comment for the 15h anniversary website which must have really made Nasu hard considering he keeps praising the souls games.
Also who the fuck would you even hire? Reddit translators? "Trusted community translators" like Mcjon that are actually full of shit? TL groups that have disbanded? TL groups that created products full of errors? Maybe a TL group offically approved by aniplex like FGO NA who actually just do whatever they want?

Mahoyo flopped cause the girls suck

>>24984838
>>24984139
>it's one of the top selling VNs of all time so yes.
>Mahoyo flopped cause the girls suck
Which is it.

>>24984858
It was the second highest selling PC game in the 2010s. Beating out Minecraft and Rewrite.
https://ure.pia.co.jp/articles/-/644421

>>24984838
ur mom sucks

>>24984256
I like Mcjon for trying, but I hate that he wasn't even really qualified to be doing translations in the first place. Even then it wouldn't be so bad if he actually took the time to improve and then finish the patch.

>>24983967
I mean, I used to think that I'd get better at Japanese so I could fantranslate stuff but if I'm doing it for a bunch of bitter old faggots who don't appreciate anything, for free, then it's probably not worth it. I'm just going to train so I can read Mahoyo in the native language and be done with it

>>24983967
>>24985574
VNs are far and away the shittiest thing to translate. You have to reverse engineer bad Japanese programming and then (in some cases) have multiple novels worth of text to translate. I'm amazed anyone would ever willingly do this for free.

>>24979991
>>24980406
>>24984838
You're all poopy heads.

>>24987019
I could make a brunette = poopy head joke, but I'm also a brunette.

>>24987019
What do her air intake slots in her hair do?

>>24983967
>If you look at other franchises like muv-luv, sci;adv, Shinza it's the exact same shit where nothing actually gets done
Well to be fair, in the case of Muv-Luv and Sci Adv those are getting official translations, and they're getting content out in english, recenlty Muv-Luv is going to release a fan-disk pack and recently they announced that they will release the manga in english and Robotics;Note will come soon on the west.
WitchHunt also made the jump from fan to official.
The problem in my eyes with Type-Moon is that they only care about Japan when it comes to their VNs, they don't have the urge to expand to the west market because FGO give them a lot of money, heck they don't even need to work on VNs anymore.

>>24989711
It just works.
Too bad vents are only real with hairclips.

>>24983967
>FAN tl scene is general has died down because the world and internet aren't in the 2000s anymore.

Explain

>>24983967
>all the existing TLs are bad
Nah. Both the Fate and Tsuki TLs are good.

>>24946681
Tsukihime and KnK were said to be separated and impossible to coexist since Tsukihime was released. Timeline separation has been a thing since Day 1.

>>24947081
>>24947116
Or he will use the remake to explain that discrepancy.

Anyway, something like Mahoyo events happened in Fate too so it doesn't really matter.

>>24994186
>Or he will use the remake to explain that discrepancy.
It better be yeah. Either Mahoyo is in an alternative timeline where there is no Tohno mansion/the Tohnos tore down the Kuonji mansion and built their own, or the Kuonji mansion IS the Tohno mansion.
Though honestly i can't think of any explanation for why the Aozaki are the owner of Misaki in Mahoyo while Misaki is owned by the Tohno in Tsuki, maybe it would just be "different timelines don't think too hard" answer again.

>>24992982
How is the fate TL good? Theres so many lines that are straight up wrong

>>24994425
There is more problems than that, the Kuonji actually own the actual land in term of the law, while the Aozaki own the land as a magical terrain per the Clocktower regulations (for leylines and shit), which is what ties the two families together and par of why there is tensions between Aoko and Alice . So the Tohno would had to have the financial power and magical power to oust both the Aozaki and the Kuonji,. They really aren't that powerful

>>24992982
A few threads ago someone found an incorrect line in the F/SN TL so I doubt it. Maybe there's more hope for the Tsukihime translation.

>>24989711
It's what gives her ridiculous mana absoprtion capabilites.

>>24996972
Just played Tsukihime for a bit, Hisui randomly says "I'm going" instead of "I'm coming" during her sex scene so I would say the translation is bad.

It's actually pretty good, but I would like to see someone try to retranslate Tsukihime to alleviate some of the stiffness in the dialogue in certain parts

>>24997083
>Hisui randomly says "I'm going" instead of "I'm coming" during her sex scene
Damn, that's a classic ESL mistake. I thought TakaJun didn't translate Tsukihime though?

>>24996262
Dunno where you heard that, but he's credited in the translation along with Ryuusoul and others

>>24997124
Dunno where you heard that, but he's credited in the translation along with Ryuusoul and others

>>24992062
Not him but the English fan TL scene is basically dead. There's a few reasons I can think of for this happening. One easy reason is because CR basically destroyed all existing tl groups from the old days. Anime was always the most popular thing to translate and CR directly targeted that. Now in theory those people could have just started translating other things (manga or whatever), but this is just a hobby people do for free. It's not like a dayjob or something so most of them just called it quits.

Another reason is that internet culture is way different now than it used to be. In the past, communities were more tight-knit and people did things more out of genuine passion. The reason why some guys would devote literally hundreds of hours to translating something was simply because they liked it that much and wanted other people to read it and like it too. People aren't like that anymore. Generally it's either becoming a JOP and isolating yourself or translating because you need some epoints.

>>24997698
My memory must be wrong. I thought Takajun only did Kagetsu Tohya and F/SN for some reason.

>>24997769
We still have a good amount of passionate people in the fan TL community, like Tsuzuresure Scans, Alka Translations and Maji Translations, but I suppose in the Type-Moon community we're lacking passionate JP to EN translators. RIP UTW. At least we are seeing some good progress for CCC recently on iwakura's blog

>>24992062
If you were on the internet in the 2000s you'd understand where I'm coming from, everything is so different now. Used to be there were hundreds upon hundreds of shitty forums and IRC channels with their own communties and content creators, everything was way less corporate. Now everything is 4chan and reddit and the few nerds that still hang out in IRC do so in mostly dead channels

>>24998809
>check one of these groups randomly
>first posts are about dropped tls and delays
Anon... in all fairness that game script for Angel Beats looks completely retarded and I wouldn't want to translate it either.

>>24999030
Oh nevermind they did translate it apparently. The title mislead me to thinking they gave up.

>>24997803
I still can't forget how 魔道元帥 got translated as Magic User in KT

>>24999030
I hesitantly put Alka in because they're promising to finish their translation for Summer Pockets, by using what they had from the cancelled project to translate Reflections. They've pretty much only done Angel Beats, releasing the patch this year in fact, but it takes a good amount of passion to translate a whole VN for free. The others have more consistent and numerous releases.

Notice how each group is pretty much dedicated to one company. I wonder why a group like that can't come together for Type-Moon works? If not for Type-Moon works in general, just once for Mahoyo.

I spelled Tsurezure wrong in that post btw

>>24999714
>I wonder why a group like that can't come together for Type-Moon works?
Why would it form when the community is as bad as it is
I'm reminded of that one guy who started posting extella spoilers in /fgog/ before turning into a tripfag and translating other shit and one day he just left forever because he was calling out some BL dude for being full of shit and just got shitposted like mad for some utterly retarded reason like "he didn't attach a screenshot of the original line and provided an alternate translation all in his original post, what an attention whore"

And honestly what is the point of translating Mahoyo if you really like it, there isn't more like it coming

>>24999714
I don't think this is a uniquely Type-Moon problem though. I mean if you just browse the visual novel translation general a bit; it's not really an upbeat and positive picture. In all fairness, the Mahoyo situation is probably worse than most.

>>25000059
Hate to sound like a commie but capitalism really doesn't encourage spending weeks to months of your life on translating something for free as you also work a real job
It also doesn't encourage being a NEET which are the kind of humans that actually have that much time to sacrifice
Doesn't really encourage being an offical translator either with how bad the pay is

>>24999528
Holy shit hahaha

>>24999528
>extremely defenless
what a joke

>>25000138
I'm amazed anyone ever translates something like a VN for free. Like okay I could see myself translating like a chapter of a manga per day if I was into the scene. That's quick and easy and you would make progress at a reasonable pace. But a full-fledged VN? Fuck that, that's an entire job at that point. I just want to read shit.

>>24999934
There are always going to be assholes in every fanbase, nothing you can do about it. The bigger the fanbase the more assholes there are. It might be asking for too much but ideally the fantranslators would be mature enough to both ignore shitposters and listen to genuine criticism.

I vaguely remember this tripfag but I forgot exactly who it was. /fgog/ is kind of a degenerate hellscape most of the time so I can understand why he would leave.

Blue < Red

>>25002296
Nice typo bro.

>>25003230
There's no typo.

>>25003500
But nobody wants to be a Dirty Red.
Touko wanted the title of Blue, she is simply jealous.

>be Touko
>be one of the greatest and most talented modern magus's ever
>get denied the 5th magic to your ignorant little sister who never studied magic before because "lol compatibility"
I'd be mad too desu

>>24983682
The TM fandom is actually pretty small, the big one is the fate fandom, and even then most of it is concentrated on anime and FGO

>>24984046
>Didn't Mahou do well in Japan for a VN though
7th best seller of 2012 iirc, which is pretty good given it was released halfway through the year

>>25003722
Reminder that in practice circuits mean nothing because Nasu is a hack.
Hidden traits like Aoko has in abundance are what matters.
When you consider their specialties, it is obvious that the right choice was made, not to mention personality.

>>24996972
There's an incorrect line right in the prologue, where Shirou says "I'll remember this scene vividly even when I fall into hell" I thought it was a strangely edgy line (why's this high school boy so sure he's going to hell?) so I switched to Japanese to check it out. It would be better translated as "Even if I were to fall into the depths of hell, I would remember this scene (maybe 'her form' would be better here) vividly."

Not really sure what その姿ならば　is referring to, the entire scene or Saber's appearance in her armor.

>>25004870
I just double checked and the context of that entire monologue is about Saber's appearance so it's referring to her.

>>24996972
>>24999528
Reminds me of the time people go all HOLY SHIT over Siegfried's mats being released which talks about Einzbern using his cursed gold and then everyone realized that it was there in the VN all along because it was what the weirdass 'Line Gold' bit was all about.

>>25005058
Thanks. That makes sense to me. It gives the scene a slightly different feeling. I'm slowly going through the prologue and feeling somewhat robbed. What is just "The quiet green eyes" in the mirror moon translation is actually something more like "Completely calm, pure green eyes." I would probably guess there are probably thousands of lines of descriptive text missing the descriptiveness

>>25006460
Yeah, it's well worth re-reading in Japanese if you can. TLs, especially fan ones, will pretty much always have problems.

found another clean, working copy of tsukihime for about 5usd at the same surplus lmao

>>25007256
Are you going to be one of those bastards that flips in it on yahoo auctions for 6 gorillion yen?

>>25007597
i would if i didn't care about tsukihime, so i'm keeping them all

would be nice to find a plus disc copy, ive seen it go for twice what this is worth on both yahoo auctions and amazon jp

>The Saber vs Rider snippets in the HF3 PV
>How grand the battle looks with Saber standing on one of the rocks in the cavern
I fear NLBW

Tsukihime is a perfectly fine visual novel, it does not even look bad like the og Higurashi sprites. The remake is literally just gonna look generic, same-facey and streamlined and bring in a few casuals, not sure why people are excited about it.

>>25013199
Didn't ask.

why wasnt a counter guardian deployed in 3rei? or is that what tanaka really was

>>25016034
I was under the impression that yes, that's what Tanaka is. Also, it's not like CG need to give a shit anyway. It's not like FGO where the lost belts are trying to replace the main world. The Miyu verse getting fucked isn't going to affect pan human history verse, I think,

>>24983967
Mfw Higurashi french tl was made by only one guy and is better than the official english translation that was made by a group of "professionall" translators.

>>24964445
Nasu is a pretencious faggot and he don't want gaijins to ruin his "godlike writting".

>>25017067
He definitely doesn't think that, but it would be completely justified to do so.

>>25017067
Considering the TL quality of most type moon works, he's not totally wrong. Even FGO's official TL is trash.

What are Nasu's biggest tropes?

Bajiquan Practitioners:
>Li Shuwen - Four different versions summoned as Servants
>Kirei Kotomine utilizes a form enhanced by magecraft to help slay Dead Apostles.
>Risei Kotomine practices the martial art as a form of meditation and not something to be used in combat against vampires.
>Rin Tohsaka
>Sougen Jinan
>Miyako Arima studies the style, and under the influence of Night of Wallachia, reaches the same level as Li Shuwen.
>Miyako Arima (Hana no Miyako)
>Master Panda
>Ami Kuzuki (Copies some techniques)

>>25017995
His biggest trope is "I changed everything I had planned because I consumed this one piece of media I really liked so time to copy it"

>>25017948
Poor TL's quality is far more often due to a shit industry that quite literally shits on his workers than translators being bad at their jobs.

>>25019140
In the case of anime related stuff, it's more likely that if you're good, you'd be off making more money working in other industries like doing official government document/certifications or use your language skills as part of your business related degrees/experience to work for some international firms.
People who do TL for anime stuff tend to be the ones at the bottom of the rung stuck doing shit job for shit pay.

>>25019926
What if Shiki took some of this advice

>>25019525
> you'd be off making more money working in other industries like doing official government document/certifications or use your language skills as part of your business related degrees/experience to work for some international firms.
Not if what you want to do is tl weeb shit

>>25013199
By god I was promised a remake and I expect to get a remake! Sure, once it comes out I'll bitch about everything that got changed but that's for the future.

>>25020789
Why would you actually want to tl weeb shit for a living. That sounds miserable. I just want to enjoy it. I don't want it to be a job.

>>25003722
>>25003985
The Aozaki grandfather picked Aoko because he thought a good intentioned simpleton was better than an evil genius. He himself says that in Mahoyo.

>>25024901
Touko's not evil though. I know he gave a more detailed reason in it but I honestly forgot it. I thought it was mostly just that Aoko had a better affinity with the 5th magic.

>>25025233
The main idea is that he just liked Aoko's disposition more and probably wanted to humble Touko. It was a whim as he says, but maybe it was a choice made with some info he had we don't.

>>25025305
>but maybe it was a choice made with some info he had we don't
GEE IT SURE WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS A PART 2 OR MAYBE EVEN A PART 3 TO ADDRESS THIS

>>25025330
We also never got an explanation why this guy killed Aozaki's grandpa.

>>25025407
what

>>25025595
Yeah, it was him. Also on a whim.

>>25025667
When was that stated again? Knk? Touko's side story in the VN?

>>25025709
In the VN yeah.

>>25019926

HAHAHA THE LAST COMMENT AT THE BOTTOM

>>25019926
>visible sage
I MISS THIS LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE

>>25022167
you say that like translating government documents is fucking fun and will not turn you insane within 10 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsidVLJjGw8

>>25030662
You meant
>>25022177

>>25030662
Was that meant for me? >>25022177

I don't know about you but I want my work and leisure time to have very clear boundaries. Translating government documents fucking sucks too (because translating is actually a shit job), but at least I don't have to ruin leisure time on it.

>>25030662
The difference is, it's a legit job that pays decent to good wages so you can actually lead a decent life.
And again, you can parlay that into getting other jobs as well if you have other work experience or use it to get into some other office positions.
Translating weeb stuff on the other hand, pays shit. You can talk about MUH PASSION for only as long as you aren't starving and worrying about bills. Also TL full time isn't going to be that fun either if it's weeb stuff, since you'll also have to work on shit you don't like or don't care.

>>25016991
I'd like to hear the opinion of some french, english and japanese speakers about the english x french VN translations. I'm currently reading mahoyo in french and I don't speak japanese but, judging by what has been said about descriptiveness and the fact that there are tl notes in mahoyo, I feel like the translation might not be that bad, what you said made me question it.

>Many people lament that the second part of "FGO" is about to end with only 2 chapters left. You are too naive, Olympus (chapter 5.2) is only the halfway point of the second part. In fact, covering all the foreshadowings in the story with just chapter 6 and 7 is impossible.

>Takeuchi: I want Chapter 6 to be released as soon as possible, because there is a servant who will appear!
>Nasu: "The servant who appears in Chapter 6 will surprise everyone!"
That said servant is probably going to be Saber/another Saberclone but imagine if that anon is actually right and Arc would appear in LB6

>>25034502
Imagine a world where your second arc is 5 times as long as the first one because you're so bad at story telling the first 5 chapters are pure filler every single time

>>25034502
i have no doubts that Arc will appear in FGO at some point or another, and it will be very sad when it does happen.

>>25034837
Will you finally neck yourself?

>>25034876
nah

Let me out.

>>25024901
Aoko is a genius at simplicity.
Utterly broken basic attacks beat knowing bizarre ultimate's almost all the time.
Don't underestimate Aoko's intellect again.

>>25034409
> english x french VN translations
If you mean jap to fr to eng it's it's trash and should never even been considered.

French TL of Mahoyo is fine and the prose good, its only real flew is that the translation patches don't work with the day one patch so you miss on added sprites and some script crash issue fixes.

>>25034502
Q&A with Nasu and Takeuchi
>Q：FGO完结之后接下来想做什么?蘑菇：讲一讲吸血鬼的故事。
Q. What do you want to next after FGO is done?
A. Tell a story about vampires

>Q：Fate系列以外的Type-Moon作品，先从哪作玩比较好？蘑菇：《魔法使之夜》
Q. Besides Fate series, which Type-Moon is work is better to play first?
A. Mahoutsukai no Yoru

>>25035605
Tsukihime R release and Mahoyo 2 announcement this year right?

>>25035510
I meant how is the jp to fr compared to the jp to eng that was being criticized

>>25035605
>>25035633
lmao
what a fucking troll

>>25035605
>after fgo is done
Who do they mean, "done"? How do you end something like that and not upset millions of people who sunk bajillion dollars in that shit?

>>25036510
Don't know man, I've seen whales roll shit ton of NP5 SSRs and then promptly get bored and jump into some other gacha mobage to start the cycle again.

>>25035605
I hope Nasu dies horribly

have all you loners not ever known? he's been saying he'll end it soon
but the game might not be over, other ppl can keep writing and doing stupid shit with it right? so don't worry your dumbass tubby whale ass

>>25038083
>he's been saying he'll end it soon
pretty sure he back tracked that a while ago and talked about two different possible approaches to a part 3, that he's been writing.

>>25038083
More like /tmg/ is gonna end it all soon.

The thing about gachas is that if they want to keep making money (and they do want to do that) they'll need to keep pumping content, so saying that part 2 will be the end just seems fishy.
That said, maybe after part 2 he'll let other people handle the rest, we don't know.
Either way, I think that for Nasu to get on the right track he needs to stop writing for gacha, because writing for a gacha game just fucks over your style.

>>25038479
Maybe after part 2 it will switch to a full non-canon tack, focused on dumb events.

>>25038251
and good riddance too

>>25038501
That would be nice, not having to worry about FGO anymore.
Monkey's paw, those events are mostly collabs of other T-M properties like Coral of the Moon and Tsukihime.

>>25038830
Monkey's paw is always a threat.

>Takeuchi (on how covid-19 affected FGO schedule): The number of years to complete the scenario schedule has also been greatly extended
lmao

>>25034502
>that screenshot
Why the fuck are you posting a chink translation. Nasu and Takeuchi speak a civilized language.

>>25041040
I found it first, and then found a JP source long after posting that

>>25041314
Post source friend

>>25041358
http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/34356
Anyway this doesn't cover everything from the Q&A or the interview with Nasu and Takeuchi. There will be 66 questions by the way, people already started posting photos of the issue on weibo.

>>25041713
Thanks.

>weibo
This is why I hate the Chinese

>>25041765
Those photos were posted and translated on BL FGO threads if you're interested. The issue hasn't actually been released yet, some people just got their hands on it earlier.

>>25035605
>it's real
Holy shit

FGO : Fate/Grand Order ? More like Fate/Garbage Overdose, amirite lmao

Nasu is a manipulative liar who talks about dropping Tsukihime every 3 years or so he can keep us stringed along. No way will Sony and the others accept ending FGO when it brings them so much bread. So this "when FGO is done" comments is equivalent to when hell freezes over.

>>25042055
I feel that when it comes to Tsukihiem remake T-M is selling smoke.
They don't even have a webpage and we have not even seen one in game screenshot.
Neither any CG.
If they truly were Tsukihime R CGs on the T-M Expo, why the fuck weren't they included in the catalogue or released to the public?
Everything surrounding Tsuki R seems shady.

>>25042055
>>25042686
It's the same that happened with Mahoyo release but multiplied due to Tsukihime length compared to Mahoyo. Think about it, Mahoyo was released 3 years after it was supposed to be and it was delayed multiple times. As they can't promise when they are going to finish, they are being coy about it.

>>25042775
Anon it's been over 10 years. That's more than just "delayed".

>>25042803
Do you really believe they started to make the remake in 2008? They started after Mahoyo was done in 2012 let's not kid ourselves.

If Mahoyo took 5 whole years to be made, and this is the same but 3 or 4 times bigger, and FGO is there sucking time, of course it's going to take forever. TM was never prepared to handle Mahoyo or the Remake, they barely were able to finish the first one.

>>25042899
Why do you believe they've started working on it at all? Also why does it sound like you're making excuses for them? They've made massive VNs before when they had way less money.

>>25042966
Because the same exact shit happened before with Mahoyo. Thay have shown CGs, sprites and character designs years ago, it's obvious they are working on it but at snail pace. This was supposed to come in 2015 after all.

The point is, VN market is dead, TM was never prepared to handle a project like this and then FGO showed up. It's the worst possible set of circumstances for this to come out.

>>25043069
>a handful of CGs and sprites means they were seriously working on it

>>25042966
And I'm not making excuses for them, they are incredibly incompetent. That's the whole point. Mahoyo's whole production was a mess, this is a whole even bigger mess.

Maybe it's me, but I don't really get how fgo can suck so much time
Like, it's 5-10 hours of text + an handful of cgs every 6 months - 1 year. And with sony backup I really don't see how it takes the whole studio day of work every week for 5 years.

>>25043345
They were slow even without FGO being a thing. Imagine.

>>25042775
I feel that Tsukihime R is more extreme than Mahoyo, becausee Mahoyo even if it was delayed a bunch of times they kept at least showing that the project is alive, hack compared to Tsuki R Mahoyo even got a webpage.
>>25043069
>Thay have shown CGs, sprites and character designs years ago
I feel that just them selling us smoke.

>>25043345
You have a severe case of Dunning-Kruger.

>>25043413
Mahoyo got a webpage at the end of development. Before that it was like 3.5-4 years of failed release dates and a bunch of pictures in a magazine. Of course, this is an even more extreme version of that.

>>25043461
>Maybe it's me
You have a severe case of I don't know how to fucking read but I'll act like a smartass, that'll show them.

>>25043514
Did it got a webpage that late?
I tought it got one in 2010, two years after the announcement so more or less in the middle of it.
But yeah, Tsukihime R is a more extreme version of that.
Man its just so tiresome to see things go this way, I don't mind things taking their time to come out but this feels like T-M is mocking us, because of how little we actually know about the project, heck we know more about the Extra remake, its just sad.

>>25042899
>If Mahoyo took 5 whole years to be made, and this is the same but 3 or 4 times bigger
So if they actually started in 2008, Tsuki R should be ready between 2023-2028?
If they started after 2012 then we ain't seeing shit until the late 2030s then

https://twitter.com/ToastCrust/status/1288493982595522561

FGO just got a new opening. Is that a shadow of ORT there?

>>25044723
You beat me to it, but yes. Definitely.

>>25044723
Foreigner confirmed?

>>25044723
>a second opening for part 2
Just how long are they going to drag this shit out

>ORT is going to be a secondary threat in a chapter of a mobage
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>25044880
The way it's lined up, the big bad is aiming for the strongest body it can get a hold of and seems to be eyeing ORT, so it could very well still be the final boss.

>>25044723
Also worth noting are what appear to be several Prototype characters, including Merlin and Morgan le Fay.

>Nasu after writing Notes
>''I hope to make a real project out of this''
>Nasu two decades later
>Extella happens, Black Barrel and Types in a cellphone game

>>25044850
they said 5.2 was halfway point, so at least until 2023

>>25045053
Lol, is that Manaka as a demi servant or whatever it's called?

>>25045083
I thought I was over his bullshit, but I'm actually so fucking mad

>>25044814
>inb4 crimson moon also shows up just for shits and giggles

>ORT
>Crimson Moon
>Black Barrel Mash
>Arc
>7 OG servants and characters as alternative classes/pseudo servants
I FUCKING CLAPPED
BRAVO, TRULY /KINO/KO NASU
can we just end it all please?

>>25045736
This but unironically

"How did you get into Fate?"

1-FGO
2-Fate/Zero anime
3-DEEN/Stay Night anime
4-Stay Night VN
5-UBW anime
6-Stay Night VN (PS2)
7-Fate/Extra
8-Fate/Zero (novel)
9-Apocrypha anime
10-Stay Night VN (Vita)
The absolute state of /tmg/keks LMAOO

>>25046507
When was this? I'm surprised Fate/Zero is still that high.

>>25046566
famitsu interview

>>25046507
WOAH you are TELLING ME that one of the most popular releases of the franchise is bringing new people into said FRANCHISE
danm...

>>25046665
seethe, irrelevant tmgkek

>>25046950
I'm not seething or whatever buzzword you want to throw at me pal
I ain't delusional to the point that I deny FGO's existence, popularity or dumb shit like that
I simply criticize what is being presented
back to >>>/vg/ my frien, because you aren't talented enough to be pulling out good baits

>>25046993
cope, FGO is the face of Type-Moon now whether you like it or not

>>25047028
>FGO is the face of Type-Moon now
That's nice it can be the face all it want's, doesn't change the fact it's dumb shit for retarded zoomers.

>>25047131
guess TM is dumb shit for retarded zoomers too, then
and you're a retarded zoomer for being on a general dedicated to this company

>>25047028
Ok dude its not like I don't know that
Don't get heated over some losers (myself included) criticizing a japanese cellphone game or spin-offs of a 2000s visual novel

>>25047163
That's quite the circular logic there. Guess what TM is more than just FGO. Only nu-TM is for dumb zoomers

>>25044814
It's just the background in LB3 CM

How the fuck is the development cycle for one of the top earning mobile games so fucking bad that having to work from home for a few months increases the time needed for the game to end by YEARS

>>25049411
This implies that they weren't already so incompetent, mismanaged, and poor because Aniplex keeps stealing all their money that they haven't been on schedule for two years anyway.

>>25049411
It's not that, everyone is just looking for excuses to extend FGO's lifespan as much as possible
Also Aniplex is a really incompetent company so add that too
It doesn't help that Nasu also wants to delay shit as much as possible so that he can keep replaying the Dark Souls games and recite its lore by memory

what's your favourite Aoko outfit?

>The characteristics of each mythology was thought of by Nasu before FGO, while working on Fate EXTRA. For Greece, he thought of it as an ancient yet advanced civilization, so sci-fi factors would come into play. The Olympian gods were conceived of as a migrant fleet from other celestial bodies then and were finally implemented as such in FGO. This is also why I-IV was chosen to design Orion and Artemis and Artemis has a rather sci-fi-ish bow. Once it was decided that the Greece chapter would be a go for real, they spoke to I-IV again and had the Olympian Gods designed as "12 spaceships that can combine into a giant robot" as the fundamental concept. All of the Olympian Gods have a design, even those that don't appear in Chapter 5.
>When asked if Zeus is the face, Nasu says this: Actually no. He's the lower body, or rather, the crotch. Since the design had combination as a premise, we went ridiculous with it. So when fighting him as separate unit, it became a rather amusing illustration somehow. Well, that giant, stern face is cool, though!
>Nasu mentions that only the Twelve Olympians are directly descended from Chaos, and besides them would be new gods who have picked up concepts of the local gods or formed from combining with some concept or another on Earth. That's why Heracles, a Heroic Spirit born from humans, would not have a true machine body. Those machine bodies only exist in the Lostbelt in the first place - they have been destroyed in Pan-Human History long ago.

You still alive grandpa.

Get fucked /tmg/keks, /fgog/chads can't stop winning.

>>25052121
Extra was a mistake

>>25053164
>still no actual new content
lol

>>25054971
Wasn't your vn like 8 years ago

>>25055275
2 months and 2 weeks with no content
seethe

>>25043345
FGO has a skeleton crew working on it. TM's own issues aside, DW is also known to be incompetent as well. And despite that, they're still making billions so the Sony overlords aren't going to bother throwing them more money to expand the resources.
On TM's side, it's pretty obvious that Takeuchi is still working as though TM is this tiny doujin circle company and not a major firm handling a multi billion franchise. You see that kind of stuff happening as well in those small time family businesses types that somehow managed to make it big beyond their expectation and they don't know how to adjust their management to fit that new environment.

>>25044723
Honestly what the fuck is this shit.
Can somebody please explain to me what FGOTards like so much about this shit beyond gacha and shitty anime girls? I honestly don't get it. It seems like the amount of FGO cucks is ever increasing while the quality of content decreases with every release. These retards think plot holes caused obvious laziness and carelessness and lack of direction are "foreshadowing". The plot has no direction whatsoever and is just a clusterfuck. Why do people like this so much???? I would really like someone to explain to me what people find so endearing about the plot.
FGO's only redeeming quality for me used to be the character designs, some of which (not all of them) were unique and tasteful. Now they're putting out this garbage that looks like some shitty fucking webtoon and VTuber servants
What the fuck is going on? Is there no quality control?

>>25057312
Dude you gotta realize that the vast majority of people literally do not give a shit about TM or anything related to it. They have always been gachafags and play whatever is the latest big thing to feed their gambling addiction. They do not care about the quality of how things look or anything else really as long as FGO keeps pumping out more slutty anime girl jpgs.

>>25057371
I realize that but these people are actually into the plot based on their posts.
Or is it just a cope to make themselves seem like they're not just playing it for titties and gacha?

>>25057397
They like the game and the plot of it enough to care about the anime I guess. It's best to just not care about the stuff and just keep posting TM memes

>>25057397
Their point of reference is in regards to other gacha. Looking at the posts in /vg/, a lot claim that FGO has the better story compared to other gacha.

Also, once again, remember that at the end of the day, the appeal of mobage is that it's a thing you can play and put down quickly. It's a time killer that you dabble in while you're commuting to/from work or queuing up for stuff. If you're just a casual fan that want some thing to pass the time in between waiting for other things to do, you'll see why mobage got so popular. You don't even need a dedicated handheld like DS or PSP, just your phone. That is why they're popular: you're not meant to try and compare them against other traditional media like VNs, etc.

>>25057462
I honestly just want to know what they like about it (the plot) so much. What the fuck is it even about?????
I don't care about the people who play it just for gacha and titties, whatever, you do you. But the amount of people actually into the plot and sitting there and reading all of this garbage is astounding. It's a directionless mess and a shitty framework to keep the cashcow going

>>25052121
I FUCKING KNEW IT. HE GOT THE ROBOT SHIT THANKS TO EXTRA. I SWEAR HIS WORST IDEAS COME FROM THAT SHITHOLE.

>>25057581
Sounds more like he remembered/or someone told him about Z Mazinger while working on Extra.

>>25057512
>you're not meant to try and compare them against other traditional media like VNs
Too bad they're killing VNs anyway though.

>>25057512
I mean if you're comparing it to garbage like Azur Lane and GFL then yeah, I guess it's better. Do people actually read that trash? I just don't get it.
I understand that, I'm not hating on mobage at all, I enjoy playing them casually as you said. But judging by the posts from fgofags they're actually legitimately buying into the "plot" and treating it like an epic

>>25057581
Extra was when Nasu started to try and write scifi and for some reason, he's fucking awful at it. The whole thing was just a mistake.

>>25057726
Tbf F/SN reads like a high schooler's final creative writing essay
a lot of the tropes in TM are just cringe chuunishit

>>25057664
>judging by the posts from fgofags
This is your first and biggest mistake. Most of those retards can't even read the game they're playing and often get trolled by fake/shit translations. They don't know shit or only have the most basic idea of stuff. No shit, things sound cooler when you just have some basic synopsis instead of the actual prose or texts to read through and get the full sense of the story.

>>25057760
>t. EOP that read snippets of an ESL translation

>>25057871
True, it does read better in Japanese.

>>25057765
This can't be real.

>>25057765
Lol, yikes. The fact that this went for so long before they were corrected is astounding. Actual retardation

>>25057765
I'd love to see a completely honest poll of people that have actually read the story vs. people who pretend to read it/read wiki/reddit/twitter synopses to give them some sense of shitty elitism

>>25057765
>5.jpg
Does that mean there's a 1, 2, 3, and 4?

>>25058017
Of course.
And that's not getting into shit like people getting trolled by fake translations.

>>25058129
Meh. Not as good as 5.

>>25044723
I know that I'm not allowed to say this here, but I'm actually kind of excited.

>>25058310
Well, his point was just to show that most of /fgog/ don't even understand what they're playing. Them being confused about demon pillars is a pretty big thing considering the EoR outright started with you discovering that some pillars escaped, hence why you're even in Shinjuku in the first place.

>>25058129
you can tell they're newfags by how shocked they are by the plotholes as if they expect Nasu to be better

>>25050013

>>25058658
Go back to /a/ you sperg.
Sakurafags were right all along.

>>25057312
>FGO's only redeeming quality for me used to be the character designs, some of which (not all of them) were unique and tasteful. Now they're putting out this garbage that looks like some shitty fucking webtoon and VTuber servants
Mephistotles was a launch servant.

>>25057726
Nasu always wanted to write scifi, just look at all the stuff related to Notes, it's way more scifi than a traditional fantasy.

>>25050013
It's probably a coin flip.
Of course the OG is the best on the whole.

>>25057312
The character designs are trash.
Since it isn't an eroge, they have to be lewd designs to make money, whereas an eroge typically allows more realistic outfits and designs since they get naked anyway.

>>25057765

https://twitter.com/exceddius/status/1288512811275034625
Despair.

>>25059502
>Shirou
>Bazet
>Aozaki sisters
>as servants
I don't know man. This seems more like the voters having a laugh than anything else.

>>25059502
I wonder how much of Shinji's popularity is really just down to Kamiya Hiroshi fan(girls).

>>25059581
>having a laugh
Pfft you wish.

>>25059581
Lmao, no.
These people are legitimate, they want them to be in the kusoge.
And all the western commenters are as retarded.
They cannot figure out why this is a bad thing for these characters they supposedly care about.

>>25059581
FGO already made Ryougi and fucking Fujino servants with some half-assed explanations. And that's not including all the pseudo servants like Waver where the heroic spirit isn't even around.

>>25059979
>FGO already made Ryougi and fucking Fujino servants
>Waver
Wait what did I miss this. I thought it was just sakura and rin.

>>25059996
Waver's been in there since the start of the game, pseudo for Zhuge Liang. There's totally no good reason for this one, Zhuge isn't even a god or anything.

>>25059996
Zhuge Liang used Waver as his vessel instead of you know just summoned as himself because reasons. But Zhuge Liang can't be arsed to do shit so he hands the power to Waver who is the one actually in control.
Reines is a servant too, but as vessel for Sima Yi because get it, Sima Yi wrecked Zhuge Liang just like how Reines bullies Waver.
Also Sitonai is Sitonai in name only because again, Illya is the one doing the actual piloting.

>>25059996
Sion is in too

>>25060083
Not as a servant (yet) though.

>>25059996
Shiki and Fujino are just the typical collab characters.

>>25060029
>>25060064
This sounds retarded

Is this image from a chapter of Back Alley Alliance Nightmare not in the folder? Websites claim it's complete without this so i dont think they know

>>25059996
Ryougi, Fujino and Kiritsugu are counter guardians now.

>>2500627
>Kiritsugu
The more I learn about FGO, the worse it seems.

>What do you want to say to yourselves back when before FGO launched?
>Nasu: "Hey, that's hell you are walking into"
>Takeuchi: Nothing wrong with this path. We can only move forward

>>25061544
Are these quotes real? Also is Takeuchi even capable of caring about something other than money.

>>25061666
Yep, it's from the Q&A in Famitsu FGO special issue

>>25061666
>>>/a/206538509

>>25060656
He's an alternate Kiritsugu that never joined a grail war or fell in love, and just went full mind of steel until he became a counter guardian.

>>25057312
What plot holes are you even talking about? Have you even played FGO or are you basing this on some summaries you read?

>>25061751
>there are still people that think Alien God is going to switch to ORT and stop using Olga while the story literally says something else
lol

I think the absolute worst of FGO complaints is complaining that Sion is nothing like her MB counterpart.

>>25062027
What do you mean?

>>25062027
Same. Like i do complain that Sion is kind of just there and barely doing anything besides pumping out new inventions (Paper Moon, Trismegistus II for the new base, Void Cell, the telescope, Hermes communication device, Barrel Replica), not to mention the process is mostly just off-screen. To be honest, i think the reason why Nasu had to put Sion in FGO is simply because he needs the Black Barrel in the story. But complaining about how FGO Sion doesn't act like MB Sion is just so stupid since they have and live in completely different circumstances.

>>25062330
Basically this

>>25064695
>complaining about how FGO Sion doesn't act like MB Sion is just so stupid since they have and live in completely different circumstances.

People complained that Sion in FGO is a totally different person than MB Sion, even though there's very good reasons for that, like Tatari not totally fucking her life over.

>>25067694
That's not the question, the question is why do you need aother version the character? Why do every character need to appear multiple times as different persons ? It's just cast bloating and nostalgia bait in Shion case and a way to suck more money from people for most other. There is really relevant narrative reason to have her appear.
>but BBarrel
That's not a relevant narrative reason, it's bending the narration to make Shion relevant.

>>>/a/206553295
These people make me sick.

>>25070620
I'm LITERALLY Shizuki

>>25070620
I have never met any real unironic TM self-insertfag through the years besides some notorious schizos
I have yet to meet any sane person that can unironically relate to someone like Shirou or S Tohno

Why are you unironically talking about fgo here please leave

>>25072658
My 2 cents you probably don't care about : As much as I despise FGO, it's actually new "content" with teasing for long hyped shit like ORT and as much as I love Mahoyo (second fav VN) it's getting stale to discuss it 90% of the time.

>>25072658
It's not me.
And besides, we aren't doing the kinda stuff their generals do.
If it steps over the line, it shall be dealt with, like the one shitposter who was reported.

where is riesbyfe show her to me

>>25059894
Plenty of retarded Tsukifags that are so desperate for content they unironically think dragging it down to FGO's level with a shitty cameo would be a good thing

Thankfully (?) if such a thing ever happened at least only Arc and possibly Ciel would be tainted, since the rest of the cast is too irrelevant. At least Hisui, Kohaku, and Akiha would be safe I guess. Still, as an Arcfag it kills me to see all these retards beg for her to get a shitty FGO card they can whale for. Fuck this fanbase, it's completely beyond saving.

>>25072888
ORT! ORT! ORT! I clapped! I clapped when I saw ORT! I read about it on the wiki page once.

>>25075006
>Heeey guys! Remember this??
My brain is being saturated by KINOko Nasu's pure GENIUS? How does the madman do it?

>>25072888
>>25075006
>>25075161
To be fair, Character Material (and the wiki who copypasted it) are the only actual sources about ORT.

>>25075392
Well, that's the point, really. No one cares about ORT outside of powerlevel faggotry. All that shit is just set dressing. It's like caring about Altrouge. Nasuverse was good because of the down to earth character stories, some of its lore was cool in isolation, sure, but only to hypothesize about, and the answers will always never live up to the actual reality of what we are given.

Along with Black Barrel it feels like repurposing old, largely irrelevant lore to make the smooth brains clap and try to appease oldfags in the laziest way possible. This is the kind of shit Star Wars does to make their dumbass audience actually believe the creators give a shit.

>>25075619
I like the answers though.

>>25075006
>>25075161
>>25075619
Holy fucking shit, get over yourselves. How did that post make you lose your shit like that? I simply pointed out that we have literally nothing to discuss and that the new fgo content , even if fgo, has understandably sparked some discussion.
>No one cares about ORT outside of powerlevel faggotry.
What a lying piece of shit you are, it's those times that I seriously regret the archives being such a mess. You're literally lying to take a non-existent moral highground with " powerlevelfags".
>but only to hypothesize about,
That's YOUR opinion, don't force it in others' throat, tank you I agree but the point still stands
Chill the fuck out and by all means, bring up a topic that will create discussion. And no, your favourite Aoko outfit doesn't count.

>>25076510
It still counts to me damnit.
In all seriousness, you're right, and it sucks.
Because it always leads to conflict, and I want comfiness.
But TM ain't comfy right now.
Well, this thread has about a day left, so it is basically over.

Is being the TYPE of a planet and being the Brain of a planet the same thing? Like A:E is not a Type but rather an Archetype, but she's still stated to be an Ultimate One and has Brain of the Planet as her title

>>25076510
You're the only one losing their shit, Anon. We're just having a laff.

>Aokofag can't into bants

>>25038083
Just like how he was done with Fate after Extra? Believing anything that comes out of Nasu's mouth is foolish

>>25044920
You meant that Ort is the powerup the final boss will absorb before the fight to go into his super form.

>>25078582
There's literally a board for that

>>25035605
>Q. What do you want to next after FGO is done?
>A. Tell a story about vampires
i love how most idiots thinks it's tsukihime, tsukihime is not really about vampires and we know thanks to apo vlad what a real vampire is

>>25042686
>If they truly were Tsukihime R CGs on the T-M Expo, why the fuck weren't they included in the catalogue or released to the public?
>Everything surrounding Tsuki R seems shady.


This right here.

People started talking about it online and one small ass arc cg pic but I was still doubtful.

Holy shit.... can't believe Tsuki R doesn't even have a fucking webpage.

This thread is now about cock robin

>>25083185

I love this little guy I felt so bad when he got slap from alice but it was also really funny.

I want to hear more from him about Alice.

>>25076977
It's not the same thing.

I just remembered this place existed and after the latest batch of news I definitively had to give the place a check to see how butthurt the people here would be.
Thank you for not disappointing. /tmg/boomer tears will never not be delicious.

>>25084210
enjoy your content bro
oh wait

>>25084346
Sparse content is still better than absolutely no more content, the content you hold on such high steem getting "butchered" and last but not least even the new content you deem "acceptable" like Case Files or even content you pray to God and everything that is sacred will come out because "it's not FGO so it'll totally be good!" like the Tsukihime remake (lmao) will be related, re-dressed and re-done to all the content you so much hate from the bottom of your soul.
Stay mad. Cope.

>>25078582
Being facetious isn't funny.

>>25083185
This fucking piece of shit simp bird once placed higher on a popularity poll than the entire cast of Fate/Prototype and I really miss those days

>>25084471
>Being someone's pet makes you a simp
I think this is the buzzword I've seen become the most meaningless the fastest.

You either die hating FGO for keeping Nasu away from Tsukihime and Mahoyo, or you live long enough to be relieved that FGO keeps Nasu away from Tsukihime and Mahoyo.

>>25084800
It's just a phone game it will be dead in few years. Revenue is already going down fast.

>>25085920
>Revenue is already going down fast.
Even if it is, are you sure it's not just because of corona? Japan's economy went completely into the shitter because of it so I don't think you can take it as a continuing trend.

>>25085959
No because other games are doing fine.

>>25086556
[citation needed]

>>25084800

I always knew Nasu was a villian

>>25086649
cringe

>>25085920
>>25086556
FGO is still making billions despite churning out almost no content in that period of time. That shit ain't dying for at least another 5 years.

>>25087310
wrong fortnite died too

IT'S HERE

Tsukihime episode 2

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Eh411Z7yu