/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Continues à apprendre le français et trouve un job en Suisse.

>>2487226
That's what I was thinking too. But I'd rather go to Japan than to Switzerland. :---(

Kaiji would give up. Be like Kaiji.

>>2487217
Watch animu with french dubs.

French is better.

French has far more applications than Japanese. But you're a loser and have no use for any of those.

>>2487230
Life in Switzerland is better than life in Japan, also french will be more usefull there.

Vive la France. Seul pays au monde où on se fait ban d'Internet au lieu d'aller en taule, comme tout le monde.

>>2487234
How? Japan is the second largest economy in the world, France is just another European country. It has nothing to offer that I can't find in Germany, England or any other major European country for that matte.r

OMELETTE AU FROMAGE.

>>2487241
No. Switzerland is just like Norway. Wealthy and boring. I want to experience something new.

>>2487244
HADOPI powaaa :3

btw OP do what you want but DON'T GO IN FRANCE
This country sucks.

>>2487262
Yes I know. High unemployment rates, lots of crime, and bad immigrants.

Speaking French is useful to impress Japaneses chicks.

>>2487244
Ca a été rejeté, tu lis pas les journaux ?

I can't respect the french ever since they disqualified Kohaku in their SaiMaid. Truly, the darkest moment of french history.

The idea of learning a language is the use you will give to it. I learned english because most things that interest me are originally in english and I wanted to get them straight from the source. That, and be able to beat Zelda A link to the past.

You're not going into a francophone environment, there's no french media or culture you're interested in, then I don't really see the point of forcing into your schedule time to learn a language you have no inner desire to learn.

>>2487276
Well it impressed me, oh ho ho.

I am a man.

>>2487249
someone make a picture "the main difference between Germany and France" with photos of Merkel and Bruni.

What would you even use french for? Most people in France already speak English and unless you are joining the peace corp, you probably won't use it in places like Hatti or the ivory coast.
If you are doing accounting, Japanese would make sense although Chinese even more so.

>>2487249
GDP says very little about the quality of life in a said country. Third world countries can have huge economies as well.

1 United States 14,264,600
2 Japan 4,923,761
3 China (PRC) 4,401,614h
4 Germany 3,667,513
5 France 2,865,737
6 United Kingdom 2,674,085
7 Italy 2,313,893
8 Russia 1,676,586
9 Spain 1,611,767
10 Brazil 1,572,839

>>2487291
Why was she disqualified?!
Unforgivable.

>>2487310
I was talking about pr. capita numbers, not total numbers. And the quality of life is just as high for us upper middle-class in France as in Norway as in Japan. Maybe even better in Japan where they don't suck the money out of you for socials security and universal health care.

>>2487249

>France has a lower GDP than Japan, therefore its culture is inferior not to mention the same as every other European country.

Holy fucking non-sequiturs, Batman.

Today you can say, that the higher the GDP the greater the gap between rich and the rest. It really doesn't say much

>>2487311
Why you ask.
Because a french anonymous asked for our help to put her in her righteous place, above Mikuru.
The organizer said "All those votes are flushed down because 4chan, well, you don't want to get involved with 4chan".
We didn't even use proxies or automated scripts. Just good old comrades helping out a french anonymous. Makes me simmer with rage to this very day.

>>2487317
Listen buddy, I live in Europe. If you've been to one West-Europen country, you've been to all. Germany, France, England, Netherlands, BElgium and all the other Western European countries are the same.

>>2487281
Mais qu'est-ce que je foutrais sur /jp/ si je lisais les journaux?

>>2487336
I live in europe, you don't know what you're talking about.

>>2487336
Don't you dare compare Germany to those inferior countries. Germany is not even Western Europe, it's fucking Mitteleuropa.

>>2487315

There's public health care in Japan.

>>2487336

>buddy

>>2487336
Hes right. I went to England and it was EXACTLY like the movies. At least we exaggerate and lie in our movies in America. Nothing but cobblestone and cold foggy rain. I image France is the same but with smelly people that think they are better than the rest of the world for no real reason outside of blind nationalism.

>>2487343
J'sais pas.
T'as pas tort, en fin de compte.

>>2487344
You probably haven't been outside your country.

It is impossible to learn more than 2 languages.

>>2487336

Listen buddy, you are an idiot.

>>2487345
Germany counts as a Western-European country. Geography has nothing to do with it. Also, it's just as bad a country as France. I kid you not.

>>2487357
>think they are better than the rest of the world for no real reason outside of blind nationalism

Sounds like almost every country in the world.

>>2487361
I speak english, french, german and have a good italian
and now I'm learning jap.

>>2487361

Okay, now try saying that without the shitty Ciel pic.

>>2487361
>>2487361
But I already speak 4? Not including French.

>>2487360
As a matter of fact, I've seen the whole western part of the place, and a fair deal of eastern europe.
Then again, different strokes for different people, but I'd have no way to say Germany, Italy or even Great Britain are similar, I don't know how you could.

>>2487367

That's nice, dear.

>>2487357

Fascinating post, it really brings out your sheer ignorance on pretty much everything. Thank goodness this is yet another stupid Smash thread, so I can't blame anyone for having brought the quality of the discussion any lower.

>>2487361

Amerifag detected.

>>2487361
I speak Italian, English, my local dialect that sounds painfully like French, German and Chinese. Also a bit of Russian.

>>2487377

>different strokes for different people

It's "diff'rent strokes, diff'rent folks" (with minimal degree of variance) get it right, jackass.

>>2487377
Lots of the same architecture, same shitty food everywhere, same shitty immigrants, same shitty politics, same shitty newspapers, same shitty infrastructure. Europe is boring.

>>2487367
>>2487386

You both missed the point of his post.

>>2487392

>Europe is boring

Yeah, pretty much.

>>2487217
Stop learning French.

>>2487345
hahaha owow
WTF is Mitteleuropa faggot? The era of teh romans aka Vatican is "over", and sadly those fucking faggots in the EU try to take over.
Hell then what with East Germany? You know it's a shithole and more like East Europe. What is with Bavaria? Hell how many US military bases are there again?
btw I'm from Silesia, living in West Germany with German roots.

>>2487382
Are you trying to say my description of England is inaccurate? Also I had the misfortune of meeting a french woman on the train. Most unpleasant woman on the planet. Conversely the English people were extremely nice. One woman even let me use her train pass because she was done for the day.

>>2487408

>living in West Germany with German roots.

Germans aren't supposed to be proud to be Germans.

>>2487386
Wild Satire escaped

>>2487281
A quel rejet tu fais référence ? Celui du 9 avril ?
D'apres notre cher gouvernement le texte devait être rééxaminé a la fin de ce mois ci par l'assemblée nationale, histoire d'essayer de faire passer la loi HADOPI en force.
Ca a encore été rejeté aussi ?

>>2487408
I see growing up on the wrong side of the curtain has played tricks on your mind.

>>2487413
Germany is respected everywhere around the globe except for the British Isles. Those faggots still think they "beat" the Germans in WW2, and are better than them at anything useful.

>>2487421

>Germany is respected everywhere around the globe except...

In Germany.

>>2487421
I think he was referencing the fact that, according to some polls with uncertain sources, German nationalism has been decreasing dramatically lately.

Garde le français, apprends le jap, melanges les deux, うい？

>>2487421
Please stop, you make me ashamed of being a compatriot of yours.

Generally: Don't tell everyone how awesome your country is, while every other country sucks. That makes you look like the snotty, nationalist asshole you most likely are.

Japan fucking sucks- especially the language. You should be ashamed of yourself, OP.

>>2487448

>Japan fucking sucks- especially the language.

It's only fitting that such a backwards country speak a backwards language.

>>2487421
More like in WW1. Powers from across the Atlanctic took over before / after WW2

>>2487444

See what I mean?

>>2487448
Say what you like about the country but the language is awesome. You're just bitter it's too hard for you to learn.

>>2487456
WW1 would probably have ended in a draw if America hadn't interfered, so it's not like Britain won that either.

>>2487448
>>2487454
I love it when people on /jp/ pretend to hate japan.

>>2487456
Even in WWI Germany most likely lost due to the USA joining in.
Hell, Germany won the East Front.

>>2487459
>Japanese
>hard to learn

Sounds like someone hasn't tried learning any other languages before.

>>2487471
Speak for yourself, faggot. I do hate Japan. I just like the shit they make.

>>2487474
See
>for you

learn some SPANISH

It's the most fucking useful language after English. Prove me wrong.

>>2487474
Some people are inept at learning kanji.

>>2487415
Celui du 9, celui du 9.
Mais le deuxieme passage ratera aussi, même l'UMP en veut pas.

>>2487478
Good one bro. You're pretty clever.

Next time make sure you know what the fuck you're talking about before jumping in and acting like you know something about the subject.

>>2487480

>Hell, Germany won the East Front.

I'm not sure if the Russian Revolution had anything to do with that. I don't know very much.

>>2487481
Kanji is easy shit compared to pretty much everything else. I hear English is a hard language to learn if you weren't born with it.

>>2487466
Yeah but fact is that the Kaiser lost. Everything else is history. Two major powers competing with each other over "domination" of Europe, the third one the US stand still for a long time. But it's no suprise those faggots of elites had strong bonds with their buddies in the British Empire.

>>2487488
The Russian Revolution was triggered by the fact that Russia kept sending farmers to be butchered in a war that was already lost. The People obviously didn't find that very pleasant and had their say about it.

>>2487499
Except the Russian revolution was formenting before that.
Pointlessly getting involved in wars is nobody's fun.

Russian always looks really hard to me. Shit like arabic aswell.

>>2487474
Isn't Japanese one of the hardest languages to learn for a Westerner?

>>2487505
Well obviously the process was already underway, but refusing to surrender was the last straw.

>>2487499
>>2487505

Like I said, I don't know very much.

>>2487511
Just because you are afraid of all those weird little moonrunes.

>>2487511
You might be thinking of Chinese. Japanese doesn't take much effort.

>>2487492
Whoever said that must have been a retard. English is about as easy as a civilized language can get.

>>2487517
What? No. I was just wondering because I hear it is a lot. Along with Chinese, Icelandic, and Hungarian

>>2487510

Based solely on writing systems, Cyrillic is pretty easy to learn but Arabic (and Hebrew as well) can be a bitch because of the whole "not writing the vowels" thing.

Arabic is a bit harder than Hebrew because the letters look like chicken scratches.

But the Russian Revolution was sponsored by teh Britons. Russia was alway a threat to european power affairs. Funny thing is that they never invaded western europe but how many times were they invaded by western powers?

>>2487492
English is not hard at all, you don't conjugate verbs or decline nouns. There is barely any grammar to be learned.

>>2487528
Chinese is hard because it's a tonal language, if you are not used to telling tones apart it's like going through hell. But as a written language it's incredibly simple.

>>2487488
Oh, the East Front was the war against Russia, but Germany send in Lenin on a train with some 50 million gold marks (this would translate to billions nowadays).
A good investment to say the least.

>>2487532
The 1.5 billion people in the world who actually learned it as a second language disagree with you.

>>2487521
>>2487532
I didn't know. It's my primary language, so I wouldn't be able to tell.

i'm british, the rest of europe is inferior and should go eat a dick

sweden is alright, they have attractive women

So basically, learn spanish.

>>2487529
The worst thing about arabic is the fact that a letter has a slightly different shape according to its position in a sentence.

>>2487529
Fuck you! Arabic has the most beautiful script of them all. Only equaled by hebrew and Japanese.

>>2487543
Yeah so why do you britons agree with your hardcore police state? Seriously you fags are fucking lost

>>2487540
Come on, the only difficult thing about English is that they could never reach an agreement on how to spell words, everything else is simpler than any other European language.

What does it mean to "know" a language? If I can post this here, does it mean that I know english?

>>2487559
It's really not as bad as the media makes it out to be.

I get away with pretty much whatever the fuck I want.

>>2487551

>Arabic has the most beautiful script of them all

Okay, sure I said that it looks like a bunch of chicken scratches but sometimes I'm impressed with what they can do with them... like the Al Jazeera logo. That's pretty cool.

>>2487538
Obviously hasn't tried memorising the many characters.

>>2487582
Unless you have memory problems, making sense of hanzi is easy.

>>2487567
Dunno, bro.

>>2487540
English is my second language and learning it was easy as fuck.

>>2487575
The same applies to the japanese language.

>>2487582

I'm a bit curious about this... do the Chinese have multiple readings for their characters? Obviously they don't have 訓読み but... you know....

>>2487592
No it wasn't. English is your first and ONLY language.

In before crappy broken sentence ran through a translator

>>2487592
That's probably not because English is easy, and more because the world is dominated by English so you're constantly around it.

>>2487593

Japanese calligraphy is horrid.

>>2487600
Sometimes they do, most of them are just a change in tone, though.

>>2487582
Memorizing characters isn't hard (I don't know Chinese but I know Japanese, though it obviously has a lot less Chinese characters). The characters are like complicated pictures, easy to recognize with a little practice though admittedly hard to learn to draw.

>>2487616

I see. Thank you.

>>2487613
Dunno about that, but compared to German (my first language), the grammar is basically a joke.

>>2487620
Learning simplified Chinese helps, from what I know Japanese is still mostly using traditional characters. Sure, they look a lot cooler, but they also take a long time to write and are hard to tell apart on a computer screen with a small font.

>>2487634

>hard to tell apart on a computer screen with a small font

Or in HD games on SDTV ;_;

>>2487640
>HD games on SDTV
I'm so sorry. I'd help you if I could.

>>2487633
Not a valid argument. Everyone is going to say that their first language is 'the hardest'. You really have no way of knowing which is harder unless you're talking about two non-native langauges you weren't taught as a child.

>>2487643

It's the thought that counts.

>>2487644
Okay then. Compared to French, which I learned for about 6 years when I was in school, the grammar is a joke.
Happy?

>>2487634
Take for example the character for 'han', used to write hanzi:

汉
漢

Or 'shenme', meaning 'what':

什么
甚麼

>>2487217
Either you accept the fact that as an accountant you will live your entire life as a wage slave, and will never have enough money to ever break free of your office job, or you can try and gamble your way free, fail, and crash more miserably than Kaiji. It's your choice.

>>2487600

On the subject of readings why is 本 when used for book uses the 音読み "ほん" if it's supposedly a Japanese word? The same applies to the number kanji.

>>2487673

It's cute that the Japanese actually consider their onyomi to be the Chinese reading.

>>2487670
Accountants make pretty good money. I won't because I'm antisocial, lazy, and unmotivated, but OP might be different.

>>2487692
It's the same thing many languages do with English today. If you live in a country where English is the official language you could never immagine how we can butcher loanwords like chewing-gum.

>>2487714
Choongum?

>>2487718
I'm Italian, not Japanese. Most of us read the word the way it is written. For us e and u read as え and う in Japanese, and we usually read the w as v.

>>2487733

Ché-ving goom?

>>2487740
Pretty close.

>>2487620

Brotip : Learning the radicals makes shit easier

>>2487761

If only they had phonetic cues of some sort.

>>2487761
Spoiler: No it isn't. Not for me anyway.

>>2487775
I think the reading cue is in the other half of the characters, in most cases it's supposed to be a word that is somehow related to the radical and reads similar to the other part. The problem is that it is based on when that character was invented and readings differ a lot between regions and, obviously, change with time.

>>2487775

Or at least a concrete relation to the word it represents instead of trying to make up silly stories out of the radicals to make sense of it all.

Not hating on Heisig, by the way, I love that son of a bitch.

>>2487761
Yes, even just being able to know the different parts helps to recognize them from meaningless jumbles.

>>2487778
人 仍 什 仇 介 以 仁 化 仏 今 仞 仗 仔 仙 令 他 仕 付 代 伜 伉 件 伍 伐 伎 伊 企 任 仰 似 伏 仲 伝 休 会 仮 合 全 佗 估 伶 佑 佃 佇 佐 佚 但 伺 伴 伯 伽 佞 位 含 伸 住 体 低 作 余 何 佻 侘 侃 侏 佶 佯 佩 侮 価 舎 念 併 依 侍 例 佳 命 供 使 俐 俣 侶 俎 俘 侯 促 侠 俚 俄 俊 係 便 侵 俗 信 保 倖 倩 衾 倣 俵 倥 倔 拿 俺 倨 倫 倭 倚 倶 倡 倹 俸 候 倦 倍 俯 俳 倉 倒 値 個 借 修 假 偬 做 偖 偲 偕 偵 偃 偸 貪 偉 停 偶 側 偽 偏 健 翕 傅 傀 傑 傘 備 傍 僂 傴 愈 僅 禽 傲 傭 債 働 催 傾 傷 僧 僑 像 僮 僥 儁 僕 僚 億 舗 僻 儀 舘 儔 儘 儕 僭 儒 儡 償 優 儲 儺 龕 儼

These all contain the radical for person, quite a few of them are to do with personal traits? I don't see how it's not helpful xD

I can see you know both english and now french, so just learn some japanese and go work on GLORIOUS NIPPON as a teacher.

>>2487835 xD
Are you lost? This board doesn't seem for you.

>>2487835

>何

What does "what" have to do with person?

>>2487835
It's not helpful because I didn't learn that way. I learned from repetition.

It's like saying "I comes before E, except there's a billion repetitions", as opposed to just reading and learning how to spell that way.

>>2487864

>It's not helpful because I didn't learn that way.

>>2487848
Chinese is weird

>>2487869
Yeah after posting I realized that sounded a bit strange. What I meant was, I think my way is better.