/jp/ - Otaku Culture

first for subs don't help with listening

>studied 520 cards in 1.69 hours
sentence cards. felt like 10 hours

today i'm feeling sluggish and weird

Second for JP subs are still useful. Just turn them off and only enable them when you couldn't understand something.

>>24754266
didn't even get 2nd post, guess that proves jp suck

on a serious note i don't even think this is worth it to be honest

if your intention is to increase listening, and you can't even parse the words being said to look up words on your own, you're not ready to learn that word through audio yet.

the main point of listening a ton is not to be able to learn new words, its the constant repetition of common words and grammar that you need drilled into your brain to the point where you don't even have to think what was said even in a mumbled sentence

as you approach that level, the few words you don't know will very clearly start popping out at you and you'll start to be able to hear them crystal clear, instead of them sort of slurring in your mind because you're trying to make sense of the surrounding sounds that are easy

even toggling japanese subs just slows this process down and it's only used for comprehension addicts who got used to reading japanese and don't want to start back at square one for listening because they neglected it

>>24754266
matt says to spend 50% of your watching time with subs on

>>24754310
The main problem is people get tricked into thinking the subtitles are helping their listening because they get a huge boost in comprehension when they use them. Most of the people arguing for subtitles are just thinking "I can understand way more with subs on, so that must mean I'm improving a ton too", meanwhile they still can't understand anything when they toggle them off.

>>24754364
You're leaving out some context actually. Matt says subtitles are a good early way to get reading practice when you're just starting out, because the context and the emotion of the audio that goes along with it. He has never once said subtitles help with listening. If you are playing catch-up with your listening, like most people in this thread are, he says to not use subtitles.

i know for a fact that subtitles help because that's how i improved my english listening skills. there's a point that you have to let them go to improve even more but you can already understand almost anything when that time comes

>>24754166
does anyone know some tips on how to improve your handwriting?

>>24754406
come on, you know the answer

>>24754406
write more

antisub autist back to writing giant paragraphs of retardation baka

>>24754406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijfy9IHaWKI

this is what you seek.

>>24754166
Actual Moogy method.
- Edit fansubs.
- Take at least 1 year of Japanese classes.
- Read VNs for at least 5 hours every single day for 2 years. Don't use machine translation or parsers or mouseover dictionaries.
- You can now pass N1 but still make basic mistakes when trying to translate.

>>24754166
#2717
#2777
??

>>24749986
Well, she already made a video about light novels so we're almost there.

So how long do you guys study for a day?

>>24754603
i dont study

So I got a free copy of the Genki 1 workbook, should I even bother using it? Or should I just read Tae Kim, grind Anki etc?

>>24754603
>>24754628
fuck off retard

>>24754585
half an hour anki vocab
half an hour bunpro

rest is consooming of japanese animu with jap subtitles wich i dont consider study. but this can vary from 1 hour to 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEwgJI68nI

can anyone recommend me some audio books from itazuraneko for a beginner (3 months)

>科学
>化学
this language is dumb

>>24754847
you already cried about this stfu retard

>>24754862
did i? it must have been someone else

Previous thread is # two thousand and how?
This thread is part two thousand and what?

>>24754902
>>24752126

i'm feeling like the vocab density of animu is too low

>>24754847
thats why chads call it bakegaku

i hope he's okay...

>>24754974
depends what you watch but you probably read slow as fuck anyway so it's not like there's gonna be much difference in quantity of input for you between 1hr of anime vs 1hr of a vn

>>24755055
he has probably become an hero
he'd been making really emo posts lately talking about his nihilistic ideas which was out of character for him

someone should do a welfare check but nobody knows who he is

2 hours of anki done
too tired too immerse

15 minutes of anki done
going to immerse for 8 hours now

>>24754370
yeah this what i was trying to explain last thread. you'd have to apply the same logic that helped you start reading manga from scratch, n+1 it. jumping straight into something above ur listening comprehension level, like a beginner doing material with esoteric kanji for reading, is not beneficial. the same principal of n+1 applies.
>>24754166
this thread is #2472 for archivefags
>>24755055
mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQtkLNTmRs

Hey, hi. I have been studying for almost 2 years and I am at N3-N2 etc(I guess). My issue is that I tried to learn so many words in a small amount of time, so, I have to spend a lot of time learning them. I use Anki. I learn words rather than kanji. What should I do?

>>24754370
my ability to understand raws increased as my ability to understand jp subbed stuff did. they're not on the same level but the people arguing that jp subbed stuff doesn't improve your listening comprehension at all are being ridiculous.

>>24754710
audiobooks are for intermediate and above learners
if you cant understand novels dont expect to understand somebody reading them out loud
better stick to moege and harem lns for the next 2 years

A moogythread? Well that's the true source of DJT next to quizman.

>>24755673
it helps about as much as reviewing your anki cards with the answers on the front, so i guess a little bit maybe

Reminder that flashcards=/=acquisition
Anki can help you memorise isolated facts like a word's reading but not understand the true, definite meaning of a word, much less know which word to use.

>>24755728
helps a lot more than that in my experience, maybe you're just an idiot so it didnt work for you?

deep down japanese ppl know their writing system is dumb

thought these threads were bad when jamal was here but they are somehow even worse without him

think i'm just gonna leave this place for good, there's not really any reason to keep coming here one way or the other

さよなら

>>24755745
i mean you already admitted to watching stuff without subs too so not sure what your argument even really is.

>>24755758
>leave this place for good
>literally keeping the thread open to see if you get any (You)'s
cringe

>>24755761
i only recently started watching raw after a year and a half of jp subbed and reading and my comprehension is fine for easy stuff.
>>24755758
the autistic retards that can't stop shitposting about how x is better than y or how people who do x are retarded are just really tiring. funposting is kinda dead at this point cause of a few autists that will argue about dumb bullshit for hours on end.

>>24755728
you are american, aren't you?

>>24754974
when i watch boogiepop i still get overwhelmed sometimes

>>24755880
doesnt help that that show makes no fuckin sense lol

guys wtf jamal even left the irc

>>24755527
i hope you immerse in cum for that time.

>>24755902
oh no!

wtf my yomichan card creation is broken

>>24755902
r u sum kind of stalker?

>>24755926
working for me

>>24755931

>>24755931
probably the retarded ez guide guy, he likes to fondle jamutts balls and fellate him whenever possible

>>24755955
i'm not him though

>>24755955
well yeah i do. what are you going to do about it crybaby?

>>24755795
>my ability to understand raws increased as my ability to understand jp subbed stuff did
>a year and a half of jp subbed
>my comprehension is fine for easy stuff
ty for self owning you made this really easy for me lol

>>24755055

>>24755977
dont need to do anything, you having parted with whatever dignity you had upon being shat out by your whore mother is plenty for me

>>24755984
dont really get what you mean, i didnt do any watching/listening other than with jp subs for a year and a half and i can understand easy raws now that im doing them. all im saying is that subbed stuff improves ur listening not that its all u need to do to get good at listening.

>>24756030
i mean if you did a year and a half of anki reps without doing the active recall part you'd still get some results, but it's definitely not a good use of time

>>24756048
>but it's definitely not a good use of time
? i had a lot of fun and watched many great shows

>>24756030
diff anon, but its not optimal at all if it took you a year and a half to reach that level. it probably should've taken you 6 months (or faster) in the same time if you just did easier listening material and progressed from there n+1ing. its just bad to shill as its less optimal than doing what most did themselves to improve their reading when anons first learned how to read. for example we probably would both agree to a pleb to go read yotsubato after learning vocab and grammar, and not something extremely difficult. the same exact thing for listening

>>24756060
no fun allowed dude
you have to minmax and grind because that's what acquisition is all about haha

this is why you spend 500 hours listening to peppa pig raw

>>24756048
t. monolingual amerifat

>>24756074
i dont really care if its optimal or not and im not shilling anything, the only thing im saying is that the people saying that there is no carryover between subbed and unsubbed are incorrect. i never give advice to anyone itt in any case.

i will say though from the last few months doing raw i feel like my progress is going to be satisfactorily fast with the base i have.

amerilards talk about language learning like it's some kind of secret art that only a few are privy to

>>24756175
Where do you think we are.jpg.exe

>>24756148
NO YOU'RE WRONG YOU HAVE TO DO IT MY WAY

>>24755055
get off his nuts, hes not even tolerable half the time and you know he's still here he just turned the trip off because he embarrassingly was posting too much again, now you can learn japanese and make real friends

>>24756201

>>24756201
thread's undoubtedly been worse since he left

>>24756237
its always the same

ストーリーとか

あってないようなもんな

アニメはじまった


きんぱつ

まないた

ぎしゅ

>>24756237
This is your brain on autism withdrawl. Go outside. Your life doesn't revolve around impressing certain people ;^)

Schizos get the cross

>>24756237
because hes an even shittier poster when he turns the trip off

>>24756148
>i dont really care if its optimal or not
hey thats fine, but promoting better ways to do the something is ultimately beneficial for everyone. we dont want to create more nukechan rice field incidents. and yeah i do agree with you, there's a benefit but its very YMMV if you go balls to the walls with it. you spent 1 1/2 years but some other anon could see that and end up taking 3 years, which is why i gotta be vocal about the nuance with it.
>>24756175
>t. spent 20 years learning english to create this post

>>24756237
jamal, this is the extent you're willing to go to get some attention? have you no dignity?

>>24756201
fuck off ill keep guzzling jamal nut while u keep on seething here like a jealous cuckbitch
>>24756237
word

imagine being a jamal sycophant, idk how you could be more pathetic

yeah jamal's right again

Today, I will remind them

yomichan throwing me an unexpected end of input syntax error
what do

Today, they will be reminded

>>24756335
かわいそう

>>24756342
ok anon where on the bear did jamal touch u

i love jamal
i will always love jamal
now shut da FUCK up

>>24756400
if you aren't jamal himself then i would advise jamal to be careful. i would be weirded out by you if I were him. this is not normal behavior

K I'm out. Don't know what I expected anything different

>>24756455
SHUT DA F UP
jamal is a beacon of light in the darkness(which he created)of these threads
i will always, ALWAYS love jamal

yeah youll come back dumb uppercasing bitch ^^

what did he mean by this?

>>24756487
nah we know its you, kind of weird dude

Madoka is mai waifu!

>>24756522
he doesn't take his trip off though

finished reading 吾輩は猫である really fuckin brain hurting book to read. must have added like 500 cards from it. pretty good though i feel like it's probably too famous for what it really is

>>24756380
HELP

>>24756466
see you in 3 hours tobira guy

>>24756537
hes been caught a couple times posting as somebody else and then accidentally left the trip on and vice versa, he prolly loses track, as for as i can tell hes at least 3 personalities around here, we all know his main, but he has the mo skid marks guy, and imouto, and im guessing he's sdfu guy and pol guy too

>>24756060
i mean if you literally cannot deal with not comprehending than it's better than nothing, sure

anyone reading this text has the ability to exit the thread, open a season of anime, and just not hit pause

>not understanding what you're watching is a better use of time than understanding what you're watching
never change djt

>>24756681
im going back to sleep see yall in a couple of hours

>>24756686
I mean nothing is inherently good or bad (unless you're a low iq religious fanatic).

When people generally say things are good or bad they are using them in a context.

Watching without subtitles is better than watching with subtitles if your goal is to watch without subtitles.

The only reason this is controversial to say is because it's a reality check to people who are too scared to not understand something. This is literally the same argument people use for using romaji.

>>24756537
yeah he(you) does(do). he has already replied to me without a trip and then put the trip back on and didn't even notice. i didn't say anything but right there i discovered that he does this kind of stuff

>>24756512
lol

壱
弐
参

he also made one of those ohayo neechan posts having forgotten to take off his trip lol

>>24756832
you seem paranoid bro

>>24756832
you just think it's him replying because you're an idiot lol

>>24756850
how you would know that i'm being paranoid? unless u r jamal himself u'd have no way of being sure

i think hes saying were all a little bit jamal on the inside

>>24756512
pointing out the absurdity of the maybe i can't learn japanese so i won't even try reasoning probably

>>24756881
?

imagine not being aware that half of the posts here are jamal lol i hate to shatter your illusion but its not even a secret or anything

the covid crew posters in this thread are the worst this thread was actually reasonably funny until fairly recently

>>24756913
>covid crew posters
?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VvMKJ4IuWM

>tfw you realized from the beginning all the "where is jamal" posts were just him without his trip but just didnt say anything because you felt bad

>>24757022
he makes it so obvious that i feel secondhand embarrassment.

>>24757022
i'm not jamal
i miss jamal

lol that didnt even occur to me cause it was inconceivable to me that someone could be that fucking pathetic

is netflix worth it bros

>>24757108
no not really, the only thing its good for is ripping subtitles but people eventually put them on kitsunekko anyways

>>24757108
dno

finally found something worth listening to in jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW0v1KlXkV0

>>24757022
yea.. i know that feel.. and the worst is when he resorts to uppercasing to hide who he is

>>24757212
good music, i own there cd's

dont know whats more cute
jamal posting without his trip to talk about himself
or 相対性理論 anon pretending to have just discovered them every couple of threads

Dame hikaru no go shits on any anime made in the last 20 years

>>24757108
depends on your money situation really, ive been paying it the passt 10 years without regret, because they make a lot of content and most of it is decent. they do have a live action one piece and cowboy bebop in the pipeline but if its anything like their death note it could go really bad, but who knows, more anime viewers means theyll make more anime too

>>24757108
fuck netfl*x

>>24757320
>more anime viewers means theyll make more anime too
damn i sure am excited haha! don't see anything bad coming of that!

>>24757320
this makes zero since when anything posted to netflix gets uploaded an hour later anyway

japanese is so annoying, shit is either too vague or too long

>>24757378
>simple minded
and if everyone did that netflix wouldnt exist my dude, imagine how shit everything would be if everything was free

more burgers watching = they will influence anime and insert their dumb political shit into it like they ALWAYS do
it's like a virus

>>24757404
you're one of those your vote matters people aren't you? lol

>>24757406
yeah i really don't want this to happen to be honest
look at what they did with the prison school dub for example

where's my poland friend @

>>24754310
>if your intention is to increase listening, and you can't even parse the words being said to look up words on your own
that's still far less efficient than being able to click show subs and start passively hovering.

i like that netflix exists cuz it means more jp subs being available
i would never use it though cuz torrenting anime is too easy and comfortable and overall preferable to streaming imo
the only thing i would ever use it for is watching japanese dubs of western media but using netflix with a jp vpn is annoying and the jp subs of that type of content are often written by a seperate translation team and don't correspond to what's actually being said making them kind of pointless

>>24757422
youre one of those guys so outcasted by society that you pretend some sort of superiority to cope aren't you?

use netflix if you want to find new shit to watch, use a shared account with other people, have a gf/dates to use it with and tend to watch more obscure stuff that would be impossible to torrent

otherwise i suppose you can just torrent stuff which will be in higher quality

is this the /normieville/ general or something?

>>24757532
there's no advantage of using netflix for the reasons you mentioned though

>>24757558
shut da fuck up

>>24757558
probably the virus

>>24757568
you use netflix to jog your memory and find new stuff to watch, whether it's actual new shows or old shows/movies. and did you miss the part about finding obscure stuff?

just saw something the "i wanna fuck her" guy might find attractive

>obscure stuff
>netflix
name one obscure thing on netflix that isn't like boss baby 7 or some shit

the netflix guy doesn't belong here. your presence is making me uncomfortable

>>24757591
>jog your memory and find new stuff to watch
you could do that on your own?
>the part about finding obscure stuff?
both private and some public trackers have said "obscure" stuff?

does netflix have any good ecchi anime?

>obscure stuff
>netflix
Get a load of this faggot.

>>24757615
>thinking its one guy
its at least two of us and the beauty is your powerlessness to stop us ハーハー

sel is entry-level af in 2020 because of /g/ayposters

yea im quitting this thread

>>24757634
i like opening up a category of either movie or tv shows and scrolling down until i see something interesting to watch that's either old, super old or new. you could say the alternative would be to google "thriller movie list" and scroll through something but that's not the same.

i'm not going to fucking gimp myself when netflix isn't that much money at all, especially if you share it. grab 2-3 friends and you're paying $3 a month for convivence.

can netflix pay me for this shilling or something

>>24757614
you dont have netflix you wouldnt understand

>>24757692
Don't think I made any claims about Lain being "obscure".

>>24757474
>japanese dubs of western media
western media's been shit since the 80s
btw whats the point of watching shitty jap dubs if you can understand english?

>lain
>entry-level
just because everyone has seen the images and memes doesn't mean most plebs don't just drop it after the first couple of episodes because 'nothings happening'

>>24757532
>tend to watch more obscure stuff that would be impossible to torrent
wtf everything on netflix is easily found on torrents

i smell normies

>>24757712
>grab 2-3 friends
i dont have friends

food, clothing, land possession, computer equipment and broadband connection infrastructure connection
anything else will be obtained for free, not about to fork over cash to some faggot

imagine having to torrent every single thing lol

hello im here for my daily dab on djt:

*puts magazine into dab gun*

*dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab dab*

thanks

>>24757493
How do you see these extra stats?

>>24757799
i don't have to imagine
i juat do it

>>24757801
it's an addon true retention

>>24757801
with ur eyeballs

what do you do if a girl comes over

do you torrent in front of her

im willing to spend money on books if i know im gonna financially help the author but ill never waste money on a shitty streaming service that pays pennies to creators

>>24757799
imagine thinking this is arduous lol

>>24757819
if one did yeah
can't handle it, feel free to fuck off

>>24757819
retard

>>24757819
i have like 10 tb of movies locally lol

>>24757819
i did this for movies with my girlfriend in college

i got hulu, amazon prime, netflix, youtube premium
damn i love not being poor and youre welcome moochers

normies reeee xD

>>24757858
the fuck is the point of youtube premium

they made plex just for retards like this guy who are self conscious about not using an app to watch stuff on their pc in front of people

>>24757862
リア充は死ね

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS4TqZYNZAo
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>24757858
look man paying 10$ a month for useless crap doesn't make you nonpoor it means you waste money and are more likely to be poor

>>24757858
i just don't pay for shit i can get for free dude, webdev is pretty lucrative

after 50 episodes following the eng subbed method i learned a new word: そなた

>>24757869
music streaming built in, no commercials on phone can listen to audio with screen off help support a video platform ive enjoyed
why are there people that exist that cant understand that money makes things better?

>>24757875
worst type of person

>>24757896
you're supposed to pay more attention to what they're saying with the eng subbed method not just read the subs

>>24757896
we're not discussing japanese, come back later
>>24757903
>music streaming built in
why not use spotify then? do you really need this video background audio shit?

>>24757903
no one gives a fuck. GO AWAY. FUCK OFF

>>24757903
you can get all this by using apps like newpipe. "support a video platform" lmfao it's owned by google bro they don't need your money

>>24757903
>music streaming built in
you can get high quality flacs everywhere
>no commercials on phone
>phone
>help support a video platform ive enjoyed
the fucking google botnet? christ

>>24757919
i had spotify, but youtube music actually has a full music system exactly like spotify but i think its actually bigger and it has more japanese music support

>support a video platform
lmfao
this retard probably subs to twitch thots too

>>24757799
i torrent everything and also rename and organize everything it's fun
my downloaded backlog is at ~400 shows

>americans wake up
>start bragging about buying useless shit and supporting giant corps
like clockwork

>>24757819
>if a girl comes over
ive never had a girl come over to my house and probably never will

I only pay for tangible real world things: food, clothing, land possession, computer equipment, broadband connection infrastructure connection. I don't care if some americunt copyright layer is not earning enough money to buy his third mansion and is "literally on breadline" because of this or some nip animator is starving. Due of information exchange nature, it's exchange value most of the time approaches zero and whatever I am given gratis, I am eligible to take gratis.

>>24757961
you realize the copyright lawyers make more money when people pirate shit right

ladies if both his height and his number of streaming services subscribed to doesnt start with 6, get outta there

>help support a video platform ive enjoyed
Google definitely needs all the support you can give.
Christ.

i buy manga

i buy kindle books cause you can't get japanese books easily that's about it

>pay for a streaming service
>you dont own anything, series youre watching could be removed at any time while youre halfway thru
>pirate shit
>you have the files forever if you keep good backups and can do whatever the fuck you want
gee

>>24757987
digital or physical?

only buy shit if it's impossible to find online, and that is almost never
i can probably count the times i've bought media online in the past 8 years on one hand

>>24758000
most shits not worth rewatching

>>24758000
you know one isn't exclusive to the other, right?

>>24758000
no dude you should be grateful...grateful for the service you're being provided...don't you get it dude...the service...fuck...

>>24757952
and this is why america is so great, our systems are the ones that gave you computers and internets so you could whine about how shitty we are

>>24757977
already back tobira guy i thought you ktnxbai'd?

>>24758009
?
how do you not have shit forever if you pirate shit? are you one of those idiots who moans about lack of storage space while kneeling to corporation x?

https://youtu.be/Np5ri-KktNs?t=295
if you think all data should be free

>>24758036
esl-kun...

>>24758001
digital

thread went to shit wtf
i thought it couldn't get worse.. how wrong I was

>we loved steve jobs
dropped

>>24758038
wanna cut off his stupid hair, make some sort of weapon from it and bludgeon him to death

dunno if im retarded or what but i remember i once tried signing up for amazon.co.jp and tried downloading kindle for pc but got some kind of error because i dont have a japanese ip

>>24758036
great reading comprehension schizo. i'm saying you can torrent stuff and also stream things instantly for something you want to watch while idk eating or something. i don't want to wait fucking 2 weeks to download a movie with 1 seeder

>>24758058
always happens when jamals not posting

you wouldn't download a car dude!
fuck off

>>24758073
yea you need to use a vpn there's some free japanese vpn service run by tsukuba university you can use

>>24758077
>i don't want to wait fucking 2 weeks to download a movie with 1 seeder
i don't have problems with seeds because i'm not retarded so i wouldn't know

i have good internet and only use private torrent sites so it only takes 5 mins max to torrent anything i want. feel bad for the streamlets

>>24758113
no dude...you don't get it...you gotta pay dude...you just gotta...fuck..

jamal is purposely not posting with his trip and shitposting anonymously to try and make everyone believe the thread gets worse without him

whats better for buying digital versions of lns and mangos: amazon.co.jp or bookwalker?

i admit to shitposting a couple of posts for enjoyment but i cannot believe someone earnestly wrote about supporting google earlier, christ.

>>24758113
i imagine youve never tried torrenting really old or unpopular anime

>>24758156
like what?

>>24758143
i'm still surprised to be honest
how do you get to that point and ardently defend it online

>>24757470
If your goal is comprehension, sure. Good idea. Might as well just keep the subs shown the entire time. In fact, might as well just use English subtitles if that's your goal. Good job.

>>24758156
such as? go ahead, name them

>>24758113
i literally just click a picture dude.. just anything that interests me on the front page because netflix knows what i like, jsubs already on, also what i watch influences their eco system, feels good

>>24758185
theres quiet a lot of anime you cant torrent anymore

>>24758228
lmfao ive used netflix before the algorithm is fucking trash dude don't kid yourself they just promote their own garbage

>>24758241
still better than netflix

>>24758185
old sunrise anime like dougram or zambot-3

>>24758228
americans influencing anime is such a good thing after all
>jsubs
if you're not weaning yourself off them you're already crippled

don't you guys get bored of just posting bait shit to get replies from easy marks go and learn japanese. probably everyone in this thread just thinks they're baiting each other

>>24758247
never said it wasnt better than netflix, but rather that occasionally you have to resort to streaming off shitty sites that have hardsubbed anime if youre really desperate to watch something

wotd: 顰蹙

>>24758252
?????

>stealing is better than paying
no shit but its not something you should be proud of faggot

>>24758256
i already studied today for an hour and change, there's more to life than mining cards. for example, i'm taking time away from studying to converse with google execs in this thread

>>24758252
this shit better be good

>>24758252
???????
>>24758302
>stealing
get fucked bitch

>>24758302
i aint gonna spend $1000 to buy some shitty dvds of some mid 2000s anime that ill probably never rewatch

>>24758302
>think of the corporations dude
how about no

>>24758256
i just wanna get married to someone from 森三中 so much that i have to post it here or i will go crazy

>>24758302
my torrent archives are actually something i'm very proud of

>>24758329
yea dont do that, i mean unless youre an extreme fan or something, but streaming is pretty cheap

>>24758302

>>24758355
>pay money for a worse selection
this has always been the problem with anti-piracy stuff
literally paying money for an inferior product

>>24758353
mine too but i also stream and give the artist money where i can

https://youtu.be/45Ekd6KKXpg?t=19
rip jamal

nobody makes any money from streaming except the service itself

djt on burger hours is the worst thing i've ever seen. wow

>>24758302
it is because i'm helping usher in the era where people get things for free when possible instead of paying for completely arbitrary paywalls

>>24758355
damn i sure do love my drm locked quality content haha i'm definitely getting a superior product

>he thinks "the artist" is getting the proceeds
My sides in orbit.

>>24758391
>that one europoor who brings america into every conversation
lol literally only argument these people ever make is "w-w-well you're from the richest country in the world, take that!"

>>24758420
american hours are usually more shit than euro hours though, this is a fact

there havent been any good anime since 2007 so no point in wasting money on that shit

dont respond to the post above mine

>>24758426
well, these are euro hours right now, this is also a fact
its 8-12 in america right now, it's primetime in EU
so idk wtf you're even talking about lol

>>24758391
then how bad is you euro life that youre here where you hate it lol you should follow your thoughts to their ends

never thought i'd meet google and netflix execs on an imageboard wwwwwwwwwww

yeah im done with this thread for good

wait i just realize something

the netflix shills are also the jp-sub shills

it all makes sense, no wonder

>>24758468
oh no this guy left i bet he won't even read this post since he's definitely gone right now and not leaving the thread on auto-refresh for the free (you) dopamine hits

>>24758472
im actually not shilling, somebody asked if it was worth it and for it is, then people started bragging about not paying like that was some sort of thing to brag about

>>24758496
>bragging about not paying like that was some sort of thing to brag about
That's because it is.

>>24758496
imagine not eating beans and rice so you can start compounding interest as much as possible as early as possible and retiring early lol

bad mindset, i bet you also eat out every day

yep im leaving too
@ me if jamal comes back

>>24758496
the corporations dude...you gotta pay don't you get it...fuck...

>>24758507
why brag about something that is easy to do?
something that doesnt contribute anything?
i mean if your bar is that low..

>>24758548
>admitting it's easy
>literally your only argument was convenience
lol self own

>>24758534
ほんっっとに藁人形

>>24755690
audiobooks are for everybody, retard. mia

>>24758524
yea youve told us like 10 times now jamal, nobody cares and im not holding my breath

>>24758548
I thought your argument was centered around it being convenient. You guys fuck yourselves over at every turn.

>>24758577
i side against audiobooks at least your first year, i used to listen to them a lot at the start and its pretty inefficient

>>24758582
no that was my reubuttle to something else somebody said my 'argument' was always for the artist that make it

piratebros win again
imagine defending google lol

>>24757903
reminder

..but im a pirate too lol? imagine not defending artist what a sad world it would be if everybody was like that

worst thread ever
最悪のスレ

remember to use newpipe on your phone for ad free youtube experience

>>24758678
good maybe you can finally go learn some japanese

>>24758671
>dude some corporate bumblefuck is making 1 billion dollars instead of 1.5 billion!

>>24758711
>dude im changing things by stealing lol

>>24758711
are you the furry faggot who just learned higarana

A Japanese here. There is no such thing . Even a slice of life anime use Japanese that is very dramatized. For example, -じゃないか or -だぞ and other weird-in-real-life dramatized Japanese are used in those anime’s and they’re far from the Japanese that we speak in real life. It’s a terrible idea to use anime to learn Japanese.

>>24758751

>piracy
>stealing
i'm copying bits bro lmao
it'd be like walking to your house and duplicating your car then driving off

>>24758728
let me guess you're either an """"""""""""""""""""""""""artist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

what is it? you write """""""novels""""""? fruityloops """""""""""""producer"""""""""""?

>>24758728
not my problem broski

>>24758598
passive/partially active listening isn't supposed to be 'efficient'.

バナナが七なな本ほんあります

can someone record themselves saying this

>>24757320
>but if its anything like their death note it could go really bad
they're guaranteed to be bad you retard.

>>24758859
to each his own i liked the jojo and bleach movies, and a bunch of other stuff especially the netflix originals with j dub, inb4 your opinion isnt mine so its terrible hurr

>>24758919
it's more that your media opinions align with a 10 year old which increases the chances that it's bad and stupid

> inb4 your opinion isnt mine so its terrible hurr
Damn right. Don't you forget it.

>>24758751
why

>netflix/google execs itt shilling products
lole

>>24758751
what about all the esls itt who learned english through overdramatized american cartoons and tv shows

>>24758955
reminder that every single "japanese" uppercase post is made by an american english teaching assistant who took 4 semesters of japanese classes after already living in japan for half a decade

>>24758919
>i liked the jojo and bleach movies, and a bunch of other stuff especially the netflix originals with j dub
almost the most stupid post itt
almost

>>24758751
this post made me angry going to have to meditate for a bit now

wotd: 愛

>>24758751
heres an example of his shitty supposedly native-level japanese

yea i mean just because you watch anime doesnt mean you have to end your sentence with da zo but dumb people have this idea that you just memorize sentences and blurt them out for no reason irl

>>24759099
being a walking cringe soundboard is based tho

>I specifically said anime is a bad idea because it’s an exception to other Japanese contents. Anime to Japanese is not novels to English. Japanese used in anime is so so different from IRL Japanese and my point as I said in another comment is to avoid using anime as a self learn material and use instead Japanese dramas and movies as they use Japanese that are more closer to reality. Anime for entertainment is cool. Not for language learning purposes.
lmao

i learned english from movies and now i speak like tony montana

>>24759099
funny thing is the few japanese people ive met i told them i was learning through anime mostly and they all sad the same shit.. "you know we dont really talk like that right" "you shouldnt do that you talk funny" its like bitch even if that was true its still better than not talking at all and id figure out mistakes over time, this is why nobody speaks your dumb language

https://streamable.com/ntwh8d

>>24759226
the true queen of djt
meisou girl is obsolete

tfw u learned english from reading charles dickens novels and now u speak like a 19th century workhouse owner

>>24759192
i feel like japs underestimate how well anime and manga depicts the way japanese people speak casually

>>24759162
>>24759002
im an unironic esl who just watched the food network exclusively while growing up and now i end every sentence with flavortown

why would native speakers know how to learn their language as a second-language anyways
saying "i'm japanese" gives you absolutely no authority on the subject

>>24759266
how do you like your meat?

>got warned for asking earlier why americans are talking about corporations in a japanese learning thread
uh okay?
>>24759226
absolutely fucking stupid, i wish they showed a greasy weaboo nerd who learned solely through anime how his convos go

>>24759266
lol

guys help

learning japanese is so difficult and such a long process that i can't take people seriously when they criticize the types of media you spend the most time with

imagine not being able to speak at all and criticizing a "weeaboo" for "talking like anime" (what anime)

as a native spanish speaker i think everybody who wants to learn spanish should spend 5 years consuming nothing but mexican dubbed versions of the simpsons, spongebob, dbz, el chapulin colorado, and listen to reggaeton

>be me
>grow up watching peppa the pig
>uncontrollably oink now

>>24759306
yeah agreed
i can't even imagine how i would have gotten thousands of hours of nip input if i had limited myself to "realistic" content lmao
and i still don't consider myself fluent

>>24759306
nice you put my thoughts into words

the only people who actually 'talk like anime' are autistic weebs who probably also sound like anime characters when they're speaking english because they think it makes them sound kawaii

that being said you should watch some yakuza stuff so you get some coolness injected into your nihongo

tell me an anime that has easy dialogue and isn't sol

it's fine to watch anime and let that guide you but these people are insane if they're implying they didn't use anything else to help shape sentences and not coming off like the toast-in-mouth weeb

imagine watching pepe le pig instead of peppa ball z

>>24759386
no

>>24759356
i think it's mostly beginners who finished genki and then watched a few eps of naruto or one piece
even if you only watch anime, as soon as you have a decent amount of shows under your belt you're going to realize that some characters deliberately use weird ass speaking patterns

>>24757444
who cares about dubs tho

>>24759386
itai no wa iya nano de bougyoryoku ni kyokufurishitai to omoimasu

>>24759415
if they can affect dubs with impunity then they can affect the rest of the industry

>>24759386
ngmi

>>24759386
digimon
girl's last tour

>>24759386
gets recd all the time here but digimon adventure
also konosuba isn't too hard aside from the chuuni lines

would you watch a moe anime if it meant learning japanese slightly faster over something normal

>>24754310
I think this can work. For example it was very easy learning common words frequently used in anime even though I watched eng subbed before learning japanese. I would see the card in anki and remember it right off the bat.
words like 相変わらず、当たり前、違う、もちろん　etc. stick in my head the first time I saw them.

>>24759435
no dubs are made in the west while anime is made in japan
unless ur referring to english subs but who cares about those too

>>24759481
normal meaning faggot ass fantasy harems that all look and feel the same? yes

>>24759465
i was about to say the latter but thats a sol believe it or not

i'm doing an experiment. i'm reading 1 chapter per day of a book in german. let's see how much i'll learn. i already know probably around 1k words though

>>24759499
nooooo you cant criticize my shit anime because all anime is shit xDDDD

the only good harem is reverse harem where you self insert as the girl

>>24759515
you didn't make any criticism

>>24759512
supplement your learning with watching rammstein videos

>>24759512
good luck
lets hope you dont end up calvin-ing yourself out of 独逸語

>>24759523
nah dude i tried watching fruit's basket it was awful

>>24759523
yuri harem is ok
but shoujoshit is not

hametsu flag is the only good harem

what happened to that anon who was learning latin

>>24759525
just imagining a guy hearing DUUU. DU HAST. and being like holy shit i know this lets gooo

Yeah ill see you guys in a couple of days hopefully jamal is back by then

>>24759555
i gave up after learning about cases and realizing latin is just spanish but with fancy grammar

>>24759567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaxDxHUWP8

just memorize every word to this song when you begin speaking german

>>24759580
yeah we get it your took off your trip, guess what the thread is the exact same as when you had it on, no one misses you, stop begging for attention it's so embarrassing

watching urusei yatsura with my 妹 so i gotta have the subs on but its pretty funny

>>24759592
whats the tae kim of 羅語

>>24759622
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_grammar

>>24759525
>>24759567
i think rammstein is a german project to teach german through songs. their songs sound like basic german lessons

you guys are starting to sound like polyglots

collecting languages just because they're easy

wasting your life away

absolute cringe

>>24759667
cope midwit

>jamal posting for the 10th time how bad the thread is because jamal isnt here

>>24759654
they're simple but translating can often lead to errors as there is no clear "right" translation

but yeah you're probably onto something, on a fundamental level you can learn a couple grammar points every song

Acquired トンボ

https://streamable.com/9kddc5
epic scene

>>24759667
its easier to learn the basics of 50 languages than to make progress in one
everything in life is a waste of time btw

>>24759696
people don't actually watch shit like this, right?

>>24759696
how long have you been """"learning"""" japanese and how much of this do you """"understand""""

>>24759708
i don't know how they do it. shit is mega cringe

いいかげん get over the anki replacement thing

>he doesnt watch bakemono

>>24759708
>>24759717
wait u dont
?

>>24759716
i understand 'nyan'

>>24759667
>>24759702
I'm ESL. english is the language that i aim to master. i use it every day. everything else is for fun

>>24759696
what's that take5 もどき track in the background

>>24759727
its jamal he doesnt watch anything good

>>24759736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJyPtpldb78

>>24759735
I'm a ESL*

i get not liking bakemonogatari cuz it's not for everyone but you gotta at least give it a shot it's like anime 教育 101

>>24759767
I'm an ESL*

>>24759774
to come to the conclusion that you dont like it you have to give it a shot....

>>24754585
>she

>>24759780
oh shit u right

>>24759752
rad tune

>>24759767
wait does that even apply to acronyms
read it out loud, it sounds a little unnatural

>>24759780
>>24759819
u'ed the wrong post

>>24759819
an is always used before acronyms or vowels

i'll never learn japanese
なぜなら？ 自殺するつもりだ

>>24759832
no dont do it
permanent solution for a temporary problem

dude bakemonogatari is so CRINGE xd

i only watch SERIOUS shows because im a an INTELLECTUAL xd

>>24759832
sounds like youve been learning it quiet well you just dont know all of it yet

>>24759876
this but unironically

monogatari is intellectual though it's like the rick and morty of anime

>>24757108
Their anime situation is awful. A very poor selection, and some of the series they do have don't include every season.
There is some stuff on their though, and easy accessibility and soft subs are nice.

>>24759819
>>24759789
It doesn't sound natural because it's missing a noun. The more natural version is: "I'm an ESL [insert noun here]".

>>24759900
true but in 4chan shitposting terminology every just says "he's an ESL"

this show that everybody loves? yeah well i say its CRINGE. why you ask? well its definitely not because i'm a braindead contrarian or because it blew my ass open when i tried to watch it cause is suck at japanese so i got mad.

i cant give you a single reason as to why i dont like it BUT rest assured if i had a reason it would be a very profound and intelligent one.

haven't watched it and never will but you can tell just from that clip above that monogatari is mega cringe

>>24759952
you didnt understand any of it how can you tell haha

>if you don't like (insert popular thing here) you're being contrarian

>>24759960
that's all true but just look at it. that's all that matters.

>>24759961
completely true when it comes to djt

>if you don't like (insert cringe) you're being contrarian

>>24759961
i like some popular things so this 'argument' is void and everyone who uses it has worse taste than me

>>24759819
It sounds natural to a native speaker. A ESL is clunky to say because it's two consecutive vowel sounds. The "an" rule exists purely to make such situations easier to pronounce; there is no reason to make an exception for initialisms which are pronounced with vowel sounds at the start.

are the monogatari lns written in katakana that would be pretty sick

>>24760004
the dude you're replying to isn't me by the way. i made that mistake but usually i say "an ESL"

guess i have to watch and enjoy fmab for the sake of not being contrarian

>>24760035
good luck it's gonna be tough not getting bored with the large generic unlikable cast