/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I will now draw my self.

>>2458943
A Pokemon?

3ml-tan...but you probably haven't heard of her.

/r/ Rika × Kaguya × Hazuki
Hime cut is the best.

and finished

>>2458953
d'aww

Here's my entry.

This is from a while ago but it's not like any of you fuckers has seen it before.

These are quite better than before, improving?

>>2458949
I like that coloring and would like to steal your coloring technique.

>>2459307
The original content threads helped, I think.

>>2459251
Fashionable physicist waifu

>>2459307
take it easy for long enough and YOU TOO WILL LEARN TO DRAW THIS WELL

>>2459327
Shit, they actually had advice on drawing?

>>2459337
Quite a lot

>>2459327
what original content threads

>>2459346
Fucking shit, I should've probably looked
All I have is some e-book on drawing I got from a torrent and stuff from /a/

>>2459291
Hey I know you

>>2459363
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2436623
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2430042
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2424789
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2423861

Those.

>>2459319
Consider it stolen. I didn't draw the lineart - OP did.

>>2459333
How about Yukkuris?
For luck?

>>2459371
The was a lot on color theory, and not just that, also music and programming content, check the archive

>>2459386
Awesome stuff, thanks.

>>2459387
Even though I stole, I still haven't learned it.

>>2459390
you've GOT to be kidding.

>>2459377
And here I thought my style was pretty generic. Thanks, Anon-kun. You made my day.

>>2459405

>>2459390
you only got the small ones?

>>2459417
I think your art is great, I hope you keep up the great work!

I'm not a touhoufag, sorry orz

>>2459425
Most of the ones in here are great, except the obvious troll ones.

>>2459433
Oh hell no

>>2459438
Where's his penis?

>>2459422
OH, DEAR GOD!
KILL IT! KILL IT!
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

We should have some proper coloring/shading tutorials, I don't like my vector shadows much.

>>2459391
Writing too.
It was a veritable goldmine of creative force for all interested parties. We can expect a rush of new content any day now, and we're already feeling the first wave.

Feels great.

>>2459449
>girlwriggle_coloured_by_chichi.png
dA doesn't like penises.

>>2459449
eraser tool ate it

om nom nom delicious wriggle penis

really how could such a thing last

>>2459469
not from dA - filename is such because it wasn't I who coloured it.

I never had a dA account nor used the site much so I didn't see the association when naming the file.

>>2459457

Draw something that I can fap.
If not, get the fuck out.

>>2459517
part 2

>>2459493
Color your own things bro

>>2459457
http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm

>>2459523
part 3

>>2459523
>>2459517
Thanks

women's expressions

hands

>>2459530
but he colors things so well, it's almost a wasted if I don't have him color my drawings.

eyes / hands

>>2459552
Keep collaborating with him for fun, but also color your own drawings so you will learn. You'll never get as good as him (or better!) if you don't practice.

>>2459552
Indeed he does, I'm also about to kill you.

>>2459457
Are vector shadows a bad thing? just asking

Values. Here's the copypasta that goes with it:

Real shadows do not follow lines. When you color, don't think about where you've drawn, think about where the light is coming from and how it affects the shadows.

Fig 1: Looking at a Rinoa figurine. I start to get a feel for the general form by picking out the darkest values first.

Fig 2: Lay out the entire figure. DO NOT ZOOM IN. DO NOT WORK IN DETAIL. If you focus too much on small areas, I guarantee you will lose sight of proportions. Just paint what you see in general.

Fig 3: Smooth everything out, work in the details after you've got the figure down.

>>2459552
I thought chichi was a girl who lives in the middle east.

>>2459589
It depends on what style you want. Vector shadows aren't always good for all drawings.

>>2459589
when it comes to art, it's generally only "bad" if it looks bad.

that's where training your artist's eye comes in.

vector shading isn't "bad" unless it's done "poorly"

>>2459557

I don't care for those eyes, but those hands are actually really good.

>>2459600
we're not just talking about chichi, though they've both coloured drawings of mine.

>>2459615
He has a ton of great tutorials at http://what-i-do-is-secret.deviantart.com/

4chan won't let me post it (too big), but http://sashas.deviantart.com/art/The-Lineart-Tutorial-32788129 is an amazing lineart tutorial that goes into all the dynamics behind inking step-by-step and doesn't require a tablet. She's also got a lot of other great tutorials (perspective, anatomy, pencilling, etc)

I've also got a virus-free keygen for Adobe Design Suite CS3 and a crack for Manga Studio EX3 if anyone wants me to upload them.

>>2459683
What's adobe design suite like? but if you uploaded both those that'd be awesome.

>>2459739
Pretty neat, which a bunch of stuff you will never use.
Seriously, Adobe Bridge? Portable Devices?
I'm happy with Photoshop and Illustrator. SAI is neat too.

Which reminds me, I should get cracking CS4 soon. Trial is expiring and I need Photoshop. Regret upgrading though, damn thing is a resource hog, more than CS3.

>>2459757
SAI is cool, I really like (of all things) it's magic wand tool. I should crack that as well..

The only photoshop I have is 5.5. Works well enough for what I do but I don't think it can even do adjustment layers.

Anyone got a confirmed working crack sai link? The ones I've tried on RS work for like a day and then I can't save the files after that.

>>2459955
Check under /ic/ in /rs/. I got one from there that works just fine.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4861100
Here's CS3. It was too big for anything but a torrent. I'll have MSEX3 up soon.

>>2459955
I got one I don't even know when I got it.

Hey, will the MSEX3 link still be around in an hour, whenever it's posted? I have to leave and I don't want to miss it (by the way, uploading anon is much appreciated!)

>>2460142
The what of who?

>>2458949
I stole you're style

>>2460213
>I too, draw in a generic style.

>>2460220
Hell yeah

>>2460220
Just the coloring

>>2458976
Picasso, you're alive?

Good to see these threads are still going strong. Might as well keep an original material thread bumped 24/7.

These are reposts, but I have a question. How can I stop my lines looking so fucking shit when I go over the rough? Do people just do the same ones over and over until it's perfect, or use the pen/spline tool? I don't mind it looking a bit sketchy, but this is just a mess.

Probably should stick to masturbation.

>>2460442
dawwwww

>>2460436
Draw with your whole arm in a single stroke instead of petting it in.

Sorry, it's been slow uploading. I'll post the CS3 / MSEX3 download when it's done, either here or in the archive if the thread dies.

>>2460436
try the advice in
>>2459683

The tutorial in there seems pretty good for doing line art.

El bumpo

>>2460436
gotta understand that the rough sketch stage requires you to be ROUGH. don't try to get the initial lines accurate until you're ready for that kind of thing, and believe me you will know when you are ready. example of other "rough" sketches

Drawing threads are the best.

bump. these threads are wonderful.

All hail the queen of /jp/

/r/ Yuka beating the living daylights out of Cirno.

Hey drawfags, how did you start drawing?
I've tried to draw for the past 8 or 9 years, and I still have no skill.

>>2461638

Time doesn't matter bro, everyone has their own pace.

9 years is a bit too much, though. You must not be putting a lot of effort into it. Pour your burning heart and soul into it and believe in me who believes in you.

>>2461638
Same here. I still have very little skill. I spent about four years drawing shittily, thinking that just practicing was the way to improve.

I found that I was not getting better despite tons of practice. I didn't start improving until I realized that all I was doing by "practicing" drawing the same crappy stick/blob figures over and over again was drawing shitty stick/blob figures. I wasn't learning new information that I could apply.

I didn't start improving until I tried to draw real stuff and cartoons from reference, and that's only been for the past year and a half.

That being said, I'll probably be humiliated to learn that a lot of you who draw better than me have only been drawing for about a month.

Your story may be very different.

>>2460562
Huhuhuhuh. You said 'stroke'.

>>2461638
If you can't draw your own stuff, then copy. Do your own stuff, copy, repeat. Also do fast sketches for a couple of months. Write down what you need to improve and work on it daily or however you want to schedule it. Buy artbooks - compilation of artworks or instructional.

>>2461687

I love Travis and Bobhead!

Anyone have any tutorials for drawing arms? jesus christ

>>2461705
I never would have guessed.

>>2461689
>>2461679
>>2461655
Thanks

>>2460562
I have asked that same question on IC like a million fucking times, and all they ever say is something along the lines of "GIVE UP YOU SUCK I HATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE DIE IN A FIRE!"

>>2461743

4chan was never too kind with drawfags, even the ones that are good. Do yourself a favor and don't visit /ic/, it's just a cesspool of circlejerking and bitching (and people think dA is bad).

>>2461765

Forgot to mention, I'm surprised that these threads are relatively well received around here.

>>2461772
im surprised too, but i like it. /ic/ is so bloody unkind to everyone (unless its Upon, whos dick they readily jump- not to hate, hes real real good, but the turn around of /ic/ from borderline troll to OH GOD I LOVE YOU is.. amazing really)

rambling aside, i really like these. the archive threads posted somewhere were also encouraging. its nice to see /jp/ being kind and supporting its draw and music fags.

>>2461711
The best way to draw arms is to draw the muscles underneath first. This doesn't mean drawing gigantic touhous, but even thin girls will have visible curves in their arms from where the muscles contract and relax.

Pic has muscle groups on arms in various positions, as well as a ton of other useful stuff.

>>2461803
ah yeah, i've used that reference before.
the arm still turns out like a thalidomide 2d meat tube

>>2461816

poast it

The corollary to that though, is that we may end up with a lot of people who will have unrealistic views of how good they actually are at drawing precisely because we're so supportive.

Though, we are all self-defeating nerds, nothing if not relentlessly self-critical. Maybe that's enough to prevent that state of affairs.

>>2458937
>>2458949
>>2459251
>>2459295
>>2459310
>>2459333
>>2459433
>>2459438
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>>2459627
/jp/ is awesome

>>2461816
Huhuhuh...'meat tube'.

>>2461765
>/ic/
>cesspool of circlejerking

Surely Anonymous must be mistaken. The /ic/ I remember is a bunch of pretentious faggots who hate everything (especially anime).

>>2461839
Those things are not mutually exclusive.

I'm still waiting for that one drawfag to draw Cirno punching KoG in the face

>>2461832
>The corollary to that though, is that we may end up with a lot of people who will have unrealistic views of how good they actually are at drawing precisely because we're so supportive.

4chan doesn't let it happen. If something sucks we say so. But it depends on the context, I think if someone is posting on a thread like this and asking on how to improve their art I'm not going to be a jackass just for the sake of it. Not every drawfag is a /b/ style drawfag.

>>2461832
Don't worry, drawfags know their limits. Just by looking at professional work will lower their self esteem enough to make them want to improve.
Criticizing the shit out of them isn't good, being supportive allows them to have a motivation to keep drawing.

Is that who I think it is

>>2461844

The only picture I have ever drawn in my life.

>>2461844
And when exactly did you ask for that?, KoG

>>2461856

that's not cirno

>>2461857


Now draw her naked.

>>2461856
>>2461867
>>2461873

MOAR

>>2461856
>>2461867
>>2461873

Now I want to see Cirno just for the heck of it.

>>2461873

Isn't there a coloured version of this?

>>2461875

But it's awful.

>>2461879

>>2461882

Then make a better one.

>>2461882
It's a samefag, ignore it

>>2461864
But her face is already naked.
Serioulsy, took me almost 8 hours, and I was just copying. I'm not touching this again.

>>2461882

ITT, anonymous complains and makes everything worse not only by not making a better one but by continuing to complain until the thread reaches 200.

Why Luffy? One Piece of Shit is awful.

>>2461899

You just answered you're own question.

>>2461896
Nope, it's still a piece of shit compared to all the other entries in the thread.

>>2461910
>you're own question
>you're

Go back to English class, you filthy nigger.

>>2461914

On to 200 we go

>>2461830
I guess I don't have a choice
Prepare your eyes for some DA level shit.

>>2461925
Actually, no

>>2461931
Look ma! no hands!

EPIC DRAWING SKILLS GUYS

>>2461978

Good, now that that crap is out of the way, can we get back to the good drawings? I'm sick of every thread on /jp/ turning into a KoG thread.

You've probably seen this reposted a few times already, but yeah.

>>2461931
Why did you have to draw that out over like sixteen posts? Were you just trying to call attention to yourself? That's really not that bad. At all.

>>2461993
This picture always makes me feel better for some reason.

>>2462024


It better. I worked hard on that!

I'm doing the art for my own VN, you like?

>>2462022
The arm? are you kidding me? it looks like it was just extruded out of a sausage machine. No, I definitely am not an attention whore, I abhor the very idea; I drew it out over like sixteen posts because I didn't want to post it.

reposted

Okuu in the works maybe

>>2462047
Just finish it already!
You said you've been leaving it for months, right?

>>2462064

It would be better if KoG was getting punched by Cirno.

>>2462068
Just get out KoG, enough with ruining our threads.

>>2462079

You're the one who posted the KoG picture.

>>2462102
Wrong

>>2462105

>5

Your post number begs to differ.

oh man i would have hated it if i missed a quality thread
my art is good because it's vectored.

>>2462047
Fuck yeah Satori

>>2462107
Are you seriously that retarded?

Alright, thread ruined.
Looking forward for more drawing threads in the future.

>>2462121
>>2462121
>>2462107
>>2462102
how do i gived troll what wanted

>>2462131
The fact that there were trolls ruined the tread.

>>2462139
If that's the case, there isn't a single good thread on 4chan.

Man up and ignore them, faggot.

lets ignore the trolls and keep this going. its a really good thread. i want to contribute, too.. im almost done

>>2462158
I think it's run mostly out of steam.
Although I'm sure >>2461931
would enjoy some advice hint hint.

>>2462186
im late to everything it seems :(
perhaps there'll be another one.

resigning in frustration, for the time being.

I can draw anime faces passably when that's all I'm drawing, but when it comes time to put them on a body, it always comes out looking like suck.

>>2462204
MY OWN CLONE!?

>>2462186
don't. you'll turn this into /ic/

I think most of the assholes there are just people who were critisized, and couldn't take it, so they just lash out incessantly. this of course, breeds more of those idiots...

>>2462210
This isn't to say you shouldn't say anything, but inciting us to attack his drawing is just... I'm wanting to tell you to fuck off.

>>2462219
Is it possible that he's genuinely (if annoyingly) looking for advice to fix his meat-arm?
If there wasn't advice, what would the point of drawfag threads be except to jerk off on each other?

>>2462204
Ok, so you connect the neck to the chin.

>>2462219
You should get your head out of your ass and realize that someone wouldn't make a thread here unless they expected they'd get critics telling them what went terribly wrong with their art attempts.
If he was even more serious he would post it in /ic/, but he chose this hell hole, knowingly throwing it into the pith of hate and bullshit this place is now known to be.

>>2462204 here.
Should I continue to try and improve this drawing, or should I start completely over? After a while, I get sick of looking at a drawing, and feel like anything I might do to it would fuck it up more, but I see other people work on the same drawing, posting incremental updates, until it looks good.

How to proceed?

>>2462246
I wasn't saying that.

It seemed to me that >>2462186 was inciting people to trash his drawing in retribution for being annoying. It I was mistaken, then all apologies.

>>2462248
You really are my own clone.
Really, the only thing to do (and I'm a hypocrite for saying this) is to keep drawing. You probably won't make it look worse, and if you do, that's what incremental saves are for. You can only get better by drawing more (be it continuing what you're doing or starting another one) not by staring at it.

Says the person who has had the same barely-a-sketch open for a couple months now without working on it.

>>2462248

It really depends. If you really can't see any ways to improve with the current version then perhaps doing a new one is better for practice. I mean just staring at the thing isn't going to help if you're not motivated to complete it.

Oh also on an unrelated note, always flip your drawings horizontal to check how it looks afterwards. Sometimes, actually a lot of times, you'll find some huge flaws that you never noticed before because you looked in that position for so damn long.

Why aren't there ever any writefag threads? We exist too, you know.

>>2462267

Take a look at the previous threads in >>2459386

They were generally material thread so we had everything ranging from programming, music production, drawing and writing. You're not alone.

Just rename these threads in the future, encompasses more that way.

>>2462246
different anon here. i don't really agree. sorry, but /ic/ is often, most times way, way too harsh, even when people come looking for genuine help. 'stop drawing' isn't good advice. nothing will improve in a day but 'stop drawing' is the worst thing to tell someone, even if they presently suck, and you see it so often. screaming LOOMIS doesn't much help either. its a whole nother tirade, but not everything is anatomical perfection and photorealistic lighting. its no excuse to not try, or not get close to what you want, but there is no one way. in so many words, /ic/ is not for everyone. There are good posts there, good crits, good improvement, but most of the time its like people purposely try to be as brash and unnecessary as possible, and that really doesn't do shit, despite what people say. the 'tear you down to build you up' approach doesn't always work. just saying, and in this case its not even that, its just 'tear you down because i can'.

>>2462260
i agree. if anon doesn't see anything happening, it might be best to start over fresh. its true that you will just frustrate yourself. Also, though flipping things horizontal is good advice, i personally can't really flow with it, because though you will see alot of errors, thats true of a lot of works, good and bad, when flipped or changed to how they were not originally meant to be viewed. it could prove a good exersice in the beginning stages, but i wouldn't personally rely, or let it make or break a drawing. i understand you weren't saying such, but i just felt the need to state that.


these threads are always really interesting. perhaps we should have them daily/weekly/something-ly?

>>2462277
those threads, and the ones in archive were so interesting to read, and it was actually really nice to see less trolling, and more collaborating. it'd be nice if it happened more often (related to a lot of things, not just touhou, though touhou would probably bring people together more. i don't even play, but watched these threads just because they were good)

Here is my contribution, to lazy to finish it though.

>>2462397

There's my crappy sketch. I guess Reco is playing with her badly drawn hair.

In the end though I like Evil Japanese Bird the best. And the Moai too.

>>2462204
oh god, now that I've cooled off, and can be more critical, I have to ask myself, why did I post THAT?

polite sage.

>>2462707
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose sketchbook pages look like that.

>>2462813
You can delete it if it bothers you that much.
I don't see why it would though

>>2462837
It does bother me. It just looks bad, but it's unfortunately representative of where I am as far as drawing animu in dynamic poses right now.

I won't delete it, for posterity. It always pisses me off when I'm reading through a thread where the original author edited it, and people are referencing things that are no longer there.

Well, this is completely jacked so if this thread is still here tomorrow I'll see if it's salvageable.

die bumpe

which one of you drawfags is the one in that jp project shit

Shading practice with Momiji.

>>2463681
>Momiji
Uhhhhh

>>2464034
Please, please tell me you didn't post that because you think it should be Momizi.

I miss my wacom ;_;

>>2463681

Thumbnail looks like a Khajit, muthsera.

>>2463681
ur a faget

>>2464038

I think he posted that because it's an awful drawing that looks nothing like Momiji.

>>2464099
Good idea

Oh boy, autosage
Someone make another thread

New Thread

>>2464540