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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, and all 07th related works.

From most bouncy to least bouncy.

>> No.24445720

xaki > dai

>> No.24446625
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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

Last chapter what happened in reality is out!!!
discuss together about it, only discussion can make be improve my manifesto so send critiqu and advise

Booru:https://erikce.booru.org/index.php

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>>24445720
Not in Umineko. But I really like his Trianthology score.
Also: zts > all

>> No.24447109

>>24446625
kys

>> No.24451283

italian boys have cute asses

>> No.24451895

>>24451283
Are you thinking about Yasu?

>> No.24452324

https://imgur.com/a/VMTyaqG
One in a quadrillion chance.

>> No.24453092

>>24445698
I have nothing against the PS3 art, but how the fuck can anyone want to replace this charming stuff with it?

>> No.24453136

Satoko is a cringy preteen loli with zero self-awareness! Pathetic!

>> No.24453531

>>24445720
One year ago I'd disagree with anon but then Apocalypsis Ciconia happened

>> No.24453677

Reminder that Naima is a brain in a jar and her loli ass isn't real.

>> No.24454173

>>24452324
Good luck anon.

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>>24451283
Italian girls have thick thighs.

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>>24454251
italians dress like whores

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Why is he so based?

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>>24456122
because he is the culprit
>guys i go out to find shannon at nigth with a killer on the island
>next day a closed room circle happened
>he is perfetly fine and didnt notice nothing

fucking the best

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yare yare... get me some brandy, nee-san

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alright, somebody has to have the isolated image of just Rosa and Maria

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>>24456459
Don't struggle, Lucifer.
It will only hurt more.

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>>24456584
What happens in reality is that Lunon has a date with Kanon and bullied by him who is also known as the chad side of yasu. She enjoys it in the beginning and soon inflicted by the pain of harder and harder thrusting. Just a few seconds before she reaches her orgasm Kanon reveals his true identity. "Ha! Who did you just bully, Huh? Who just makes you reach your pathetic orgasm, HUH?" *spanks her shaming small ass while performing the kinkest pounding you can imagine.* Lunon cries out loudly after she realizes that she was pounded by both a tranny and a little brat that she used to bully a lot and look down upon as a faggot, and she is going to reach orgasm by a magic "wand" of the witch! What's most important, she loves it! Lewd! What a sweet revenge!

>> No.24458867

How does Ryu make characters so likeable? I expected Jayden to be a smug edgelord or something, but turns out he's a goofball.

>> No.24458985

>>24456122
>overcomes his inceldom and grows into a chad
>gets a super cute girlfriend
>his gf turns out to be a literal school shooter incel who wants to take everyone down with "her" because she can't have sex
Why do all half-asian kids become murderous incels?

>> No.24459583

Why is George so fucking FAT?

>> No.24459784

Why do SO MANY people misspell Satoko as "Satako"? Seriously. Does it have to do with English speakers or something?

I've seen people calling her Satako hundreds upon hundreds of times, in all sorts of contexts and even weird places like the filename of a SFM Satoko model. It's WAY more common than is reasonable, and I just don't get why. What's the deal? I can imagine many reasons or explanations, but it's still fucking ridiculous how frequently it happens. It's bizarre. It's on the level of native speakers misspelling "separate" or confusing "effect" and "affect". It's THAT frequent, for some strange reason. No other Japanese name gets misspelled this often in the same fucking way.

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>>24452324
look harder

>> No.24460012

>>24453531
>>24446870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu2uiy6UCBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AalDDURr_jI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sa05VlcY3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2wDIFjv9EI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2g8fVwMKxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCozHUuZMBM
All my favorite pieces from him were used in serene / fantastical / analysis scenes, always helped me feel more in tune with the feeling of the game. Yes dai and zts get funky and intense but xaki does this way better.

>> No.24460153

>>24459784
Where are you posting that you see so many people frequently misspell her name that way?
Even looking on wasoru /jp/ archives, there's only 99 posts since 2008 that say Satako.

>> No.24460397

>>24460012
Luck Ganriki has made some fun tracks like Fishy Aroma, Deep Blue Jeer, or Kina no Kaori; and their iconic " " #600 Million in " ".
I wonder what kind of tracks would Gin Kreuz lay for Ciconia. For the moment, he just made the Fragment BGM, which is good. I'm eager to know his composition style. His track for TRianThology is quite good.

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>forced to exist in a reality where Rena isn't real and isn't much gf
Why even live?

>> No.24460484

>>24460458
I'm pretty sure Rena exist, but not in the form you would expect. So don't give up!

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>>24460458
Rena exists. She exists as a concept in our hearts.
So don't lose hope, anon. Everything will be daijoubu!

>> No.24460616

I want to kiss Kanon kun's tummy so much bros like you wouldn't believe

>> No.24460641

>>24460616
Kanon...chan

>> No.24461468
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>>24460641
Based erikantriceChad

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>>24459989
Indeed, though some of these are quite tricky to find. It's a nice scavenger hunt activity.

Found this on a Chinese website.

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>> No.24462079

>>24458867
They all have both virtues and flaws. Because all the characters who are initially presented in terms of virtues are later shown to be flawed, you're readily willing to accept that the characters initially presented in terms of flaws also have virtues.

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>>24461468
Yeah, I'm thinking based.

>> No.24462150

>>24446625
This is the least dignified screed I've read in a while. Why ruin your reading of the game with this nonsense?

>> No.24462179

>>24462150
He's an obvious troll, why you even think of feeding him, let alone spending time doing it?

>> No.24462359

>>24462179
>>24462150
what you mean?
why i am ruined it
>>24462179
no one is speaking with you
fuck off to discord in your fucking safe place shithole

>> No.24462648

For me, it's Pre-holder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCNSxMlYgJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaGUYMPe8wA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOwHkcq_ja4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uUu-Xpjbo

>> No.24463289

>>24462179
What does he get out of doing this? It's obnoxious as fuck even for a troll. Is he mentally ill?

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>>24463289
>a discord tranny call someone else mental ill
fucking KEK

>> No.24463529

One thing Ciconia is extremely good at is writing 2020 teenagers

>> No.24463620

>>24462359
Without love, the truth cannot be seen.
There's no heart to your theory. It is built not of love, but of fear and disdain.

>> No.24464774

>>24460616
I want to kiss his neck!

>> No.24465203

ange was a mistake

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1GJ6b3yczE
Initiate operation Great Humiliation.

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>>24463355
Not that anon but...
There are various types of mentall illnesses.
Don't you think it's time to move on?
That you were spreading your theory for time long enough?
That if someone wanted to read it, they already read it?
As I see it, your theory is becoming or already became a kind of meme, akin to Andy Sixx spamming on /b/.
Are you a troll with rich parents who doesn't have anything to do? If so then congratulations on your persistence.
If no, don't you think life is too short for spending your precious time like that?

>> No.24466360

>>24446870
This is some nice art and I like how closely they resembles the original sprites. Why is Battler a girl though?

>> No.24466446

>>24456235
>guys i go out to find shannon at nigth with a killer on the island
Have you considered that it was because there was a killer on the island that he needed to find Shannon? He loved her so he cared for her safety.

>> No.24467286

>>24463620
my theory have love

the love between Battler and Yasu
the love between George and Shannon
the love between Kinzo and Beatrcie and the love of Genji for Kinzo.

al of that iin my theory
not like in shkanontrice
>muh Battler forgot yasu
>>24466446
in what moviie,book,tv series ecc.. who left the group at nigth to search the killer survive?
no one

Instead george the next day was perfetly fine,he didnt find Shannnon but not only he didnt notice a fucking closed room circle

in all the nigth George never met Beatrcie who was commiting a murder then where the fuck he searched Shannon? because he didnt notice that 6 rooms were locked

but the most important detail that confirm this is why put this scene?
this scene change noting if George is not the culprit and in a mystery every scene is important

>> No.24468566

GOG version of Umineko the same as the Mangagamer and Steam version, or different?

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>>24459989
>>24461543
Hau~ Thank you so much!

>> No.24469266

>>24468566
They're all the same.

>> No.24470328

>>24462150
Some care about the mystery side. Also, it answers some questions. Your reading experience won't apply to everyone. If it had ruined yours it would mean it somehow questioned your view on Umineko and you cannot ignore it.

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>>24470328
I don't get why italianon gets all this hate.
>muh he ruins our threads
>his theory is retarded (though I haven't read it lol)
>learn english
He is one of the only Umineko fans who actually brings up theories and discussion in these threads otherwise filled with faggotry and Satoko rape jokes. Anyone who tells him to fuck off is just a hypocrite who's too lazy to actually think about the story. Which is a shame, because that was kind of the point of Umineko.

>> No.24471747

>>24471527
thanks anon
you make me smile

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>>24471527
>too lazy to think about the story
it's been a decade
and there's reason I should have to point out that his meme bait tier theory isnt eve worth discussing, and when it is discussed--the conversations go absolutely nowhere and yield nothing
also I cant help but notice that when people shit on him you frequently pop up with your
>I dont get why italianon gets all this hate
It's pretty obvious why
and it only makes me think you're either samefagging or in on the trolling, it's honestly pretty tiresome

>> No.24471853

>>24471777
>it's been a decade
the truth remain truth even if decade pass
have you read umineko? Ange accept Battler's family culprit theory just because majority of people and media belive it?

Nope

> I should have to point out that his meme bait tier theory isnt eve worth discussing
list them all i wait
>and it only makes me think you're either samefagging or in on the trolling, it's honestly pretty tiresome
i am not a troll, people who said that my theory is wrong without present proofs are the real trolls BECAUSE THEM DONT UNDERSTAND NOTHING FROM UMINEKO

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>>24471777
>it's been a decade
Yeah, and we still haven't gotten conclusive answers to our questions. So discussing Umineko shouldn't be considered annoying or "shitposting" in Umineko threads.
>and there's reason I should have to point out that his meme bait tier theory isnt eve worth discussing
And yet, I rarely ever see anyone use arguments to debate the theory. It's always just "fuck off" and "meme bait theory" stuff, nothing valid.
>also I cant help but notice that when people shit on him you frequently pop u
kek, this was the first time for me. Obviously fans who like to discuss Umineko will stick up for anons like him who contribute to these threads.

>> No.24471896

>>24471853
if you're going to keep going at this for even longer, at least try and make it fun
or do the few anons who fall for replying to you genuinely get you off that much?

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>>24471777
George must be wondering why someone would mog a man before kicking him out of a plane

>> No.24471913

>>24471886
>contribute
okay you got a laugh out of me

>> No.24471988

>>24471913
>nice trollposting
And people like you are the reason why we need italianon.
You bring up a discussion, are utterly BTFO'ed, and immediately stop thinking.

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>>24471896
>at least try and make it fun
i dont give shit about fun
i am here to confirm the real truth of umineko anon.

cmon my theory is dumb and a meme
deny it in 5 minutes if is useless discuss about it.....o yes you cant because this is the real truth of umineko

>> No.24472098

>>24471988
>discussion
>btfod
Nice delusion I guess?

>>24471995
At least space out your samefagging replies so that it's not as apparent.

>> No.24472128

>>24472098
not an argument goat

>> No.24472211

>>24472128
see now you're just saying a random phrase
if you really wanna immerse yourself in this giant shitpost even more, you gotta make more in-depth replies that feel genuine
I believe in you
at least you took the advice to space out the same fagging

>> No.24472239

>>24472211
The fuck..? You're embarrassing.

>> No.24472262

>>24472211
goat this is not an argument
just said your theory is wrong because X,Y,Z
if you belive it then would be easy for you

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>They work for the mercenary, the masketta man
Yasu is a mercenary, being a paid servant. But that is just her MASK, she is actually the head (big guy) of the Ushiromiya family, and the other servants work for her.
>The flight plan I just filed in with the Aegean Sea lists me, my men, Dr. Pavelheer, but only one of you
There are three hooded henchmen on the plane, and three personalities that Yasu adopts. But she needs, sooner or later, to pick only one to live as, only one can fit in the "flight plan" of her future.
>He didn't fly so good, who wants to try next?
Yasu didn't fly so good when Natsuhi threw her off the cliff. Genji hid her so that Natsuhi wouldn't get another try.
>Tell me about Bane, why does he wear the mask? A lotta loyalty for a hired gun
It's very ironic that CIA/Battler asks this, as he himself is the reason. Kanon is very loyal towards the family he hates, to which he is supposedly only bound by his salary. We could also see a cleverly disguised reference towards the silver spoon scene in episode 1, if we read the line as "A lotta loyal tea".
>Or perhaps he was wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane
Why would someone draw a magic circle while trying to supposedly hide a corpse? Why the epitaph? Banetrice is trying to get Battler to think about why Beato's action are often irrationally: he needs to think about the WHY, the heart of the mystery.
>Who are you?
The central question of Umineko, of course.
>It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan
Sayo, Shannon, Kanon, Beatrice... these identities don't matter to Yasu at her deepest level. What she wants is to fulfill her plan: to make Battler remember his promise. Alternatively: it doesn't matter who collaborates with Yasu or who dies first in a certain kakera.
>Was getting caught part of your plan?
Getting caught (by Battler) is Yasu's hope and she says so explicitly in the manga. Both in the gameboard, and on the level of the meta-world.
>If I pulled that off, would you die?
If I revealed the truth about your birth, your body, and your identity, would you still be able to live?
>C: You're a big guy B: For you
Beatrice is a big 1000-year old witch, but she's only a witch because of Battler, and for Battler's sake.
>Crashing this plane, with no survivors
Yasu doesn't just wants to end her life, she wants to end the Ushiromiya family so that she has no regrets and no reasons to live. That's why there need to be no survivors.
There's yet another cinematic parallel in the finale, with Banetrice floating upwards towards the Golden Land, attached to the rope of her Forgeries, while CIA/Battler falls down towards the real world, in an interesting inversion of the episode 8 ending.


Did Nolan play Umineko? Is the whole plane scene just a seacats reference?

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If you're still searching for conclusive answers or a single truth in Umineko you missed the entire point of the VN. How many times did the game have to tell you that in a catbox all varying truths are valid and the actual truth of what happened on Rokkenjima doesn't actually matter. Parading around your theories as THE truth rather than a theory is nothing more than bastardizing R07s message and diluting the VN.

>> No.24475536

>>24475044
How powerful is Bern exactly? Is it possible she went back to Hinamizawa and created a meta-Shion just to torture her?

>> No.24475651

Italianon could have been a truly good poster with a cool theory, it's a shame he was born autistic.

>> No.24475660

>>24475536
Bern is Battler's family culprit theory
>>24475044
You miss the point
Umineko is a mystery
A mistery is a love story between reader and writer, there is a solution necause the author love us, no solution or different solution mean betrayl

>> No.24475785

>>24472744
>Yasu didn't fly so good when Natsuhi threw her off the cliff.
Now this is quality content, thanks anon

>> No.24476007

>>24475660
Yes you can find YOUR truth as to what happened, and that's all it will ever be. That is not THE solution or THE single truth of what Umineko was and it will always be nothing more than a theory. You saying stuff like "what happened in reality" makes you nothing more than a Goat trying to push what you imagine to be the single truth on others. Having a theory and trying to figure out a solution to the mystery is all well and good, and trying to have a discussion on it is perfectly fine. But the moment you call it "what happened in reality" then you are just completely overlooking all the times the VN says how multiple truths are valid in a catbox and how no definitive answer is right.

>> No.24476254

>>24476007
No a love story there is a solution
A real solution because the author want us think and find it anon
This is a love story

>> No.24477334

>>24476007
In chapter 5 Ryu07 brought the point that a mystery should have a reachable conclusion up himself.
When Battler and Virgilia theorized about the truth of the game and compared it to a mystery novel, the solution they found was that in order to have a functioning relationship between reader and author the novel has to be solvable with the clues given until the finale. And in fact, that's how each of Beatrice's games worked.
So it's not hard to assume that the same is true for Umineko as a whole. Just saying "there isn't a real truth anyway" is nothing else than you stopping to think about the story and giving up.

>> No.24477365

>>24477334
You can definitely have your own theory, but ignoring the entire message of the catbox and trying to say that one specific theory is reality isn't really the point from my understanding.

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>>24477365
The catbox theory may hold true for Beatrice's games, and the culprit of each one can change with the perception of the games' participants. But that doesn't change the fact that there IS a definite truth for each and every chapter, as Virgilia stated in red in chapter 5.
Even though you may be wrong sometimes, searching for this single truth is the true legacy of Umineko in my opinion. After all, people basically stopped caring about Higurashi's mysteries after the truth was revealed while we still have threads like this one for Umioneko.

>> No.24477531

>>24477477
Alright well we'll end it here then. From Episode 8 my understanding was to find your own truth with what happened and theorize with others about it. But that's also something it'll only ever be, your truth, not the truth. What bothered me was this dude claiming this was THE answer or THE reality to the events of Rokkenjima and holy shit he shoves it in every Umineko thread made.

>> No.24478227

>>24477365
what mean the catbox?

Until you open it every solution can be real, the author ryukishi give us the proof to open it

IF IN ALL THE GAMES THE CULPRITS ARE THE SAME, ANGE STORY OF THE FUTURE, IKUKO, TOHYA AND CLAIRE BACKSTORY

NOW WE CAN OPEN THIS BOX AND FIND THE REAL TRUTH

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What is all this shit about searching for your own truth? We literally know pmuch everything for every game board shown as well as reality .The only "truth" that anyone needs to decide on for themselves is whether or not the Ushiromiya family were actually heartless assholes with no love. Any solution theories people come up with are just because they refuse to believe the actual truth that the VN laid out (and that the manga spelled out for dummies) and are trying to maneuver their way around the red truth to make up some other bullshit that is in no way hinted at or even fitting with Umineko as a whole. Most "questions" that people still have are only because they dont like the conveniences that happen and are trying to pull something out of their ass that makes that one part less convenient. If you can come up with your own answers in the name of your imaginary suped up catbox message, then youre stepping on the entirety of the story and tossing away everything that r07 hinted at, built up, and expanded on at your own convenience. "If I ignore X, then this Z that I throw in allows Y to make more sense." How very enlightened of you.

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>>24478350
>were actually heartless assholes
nope
ushiromiya family really love their family

THE CULPRIT IS GEORGE AND GEWEORGE KILL FOR LOVE
LOVE

YOUR SOLUTION DONT HAVE ANY LOVE
wihtou love it cannot be seen so you try to put everything in the cat box but you dont know that the box is already open jjust you cant see it because YOU DONT HAVE LOVE

>> No.24478474

>>24475660
Bern like all the reference dropping voyager witches that can exist independently regardless what happens to meta-Rokkenjima and the golden land are clearly representative of more series overarching concepts

>> No.24478544

>>24478474
why Bern is so obsessed with Ange, why she want make her suffer?

because her is the reason why Ange's life was destroyed
the theory make by people who accuse her family and all the hate was focus on her

>> No.24478623

>>24478544
She is an asshole and toying with Ange eases her boredom. Alternatively she is cynicism in general or repreresents her hope for a miracle, which is tormenting her.

Anyway it's incredibly obvious that voyager witches are not tied to one specifc territory/story and involved in plenty of others including Hgurashi and Ciconia. Lambda and Bern literally say that they will meet again with the reader "when something else crys" they are not tied to Umineko specifically thats the whole implication of a voyager witch.

>> No.24478719

>>24478623
Bern Battler's family culprit theory
Lambda internet witch hunters community

thanks this all umineko can be solve without magic

>> No.24478830

>>24478719
That was never what this discussion was about lol. Umineko can be a pure mystery or a pure fantasy regardless of if Bern and Lambda are representative of specific aspects of Umineko (which the story makes really obvious is not the case) or more broader cocnepts.

On a side-note Lambda protecting the catbox in Ep. 8 makes no sense with her representing the witch hunters who desperately try to uncover what happens, while Lambda is fighting to keep it secret. If you wanna have a dumb theory it would make more sense for Lambda to represent the explosion, afterall that certainty allowed the mystery of the witch to exist and kept any family theory at arms length. That being said she is obviously a more overarching concept of certainty that also ties into Satoko and Takano among other things.

>> No.24479063

>>24478830
communities want survive, if you revail the truth all the stories that witch hunters create, all the discussion ecc. would died
Then the most popular theory is Battler's culprit and this is why Lambda love Bern so much

>> No.24479197

Do I need to finish Higurashi in order to read Higanbana?

>> No.24479215

>>24479197
Not at all. Anything outside of WTC is completely standalone and unrelated, at most having a reference or two.

>> No.24479218

>>24479063
The witchhunters wnated to uncover it though, you are really stretching. You can still just as easily make her represent the explosion too or have Bern represent the toxic hope for a miracle or cynicism. All these are valid interpretations in a mystery framework.

It's just also obvious that Bern and Lambda are representing broader concepts, after which they are literally named. They are dropping tons of references to other stuff, outright say that they will be in the next WTC are reffered to as voyager witches that are not tied to a specific territory, even as a mystery story Umineko still exists within the greater context of WTC and Bern and Lambda are extremely obviously not limited to Umineko specifically.

>> No.24479702

>>24479218
>even as a mystery story Umineko still exists within the greater context of WTC
I simply cannot understand why people refuse to keep this in mind.

>> No.24479841

>>24479218
>The witchhunters wnated to uncover it though, you are really stretching
IKUKO SAID THAT WITCH HUNTERS WHO DISCOVER THE TRUTH DONT REVAIL IT BUT CREATE STORY ABOUT THAT TRUTH

WITCH HUNTERS WANT THIS BECOME AN ETERNAL MISTERY

>>24479702
didnt matter
every world is completely separated by another 1
Lambda is not takano and Bern is not Rika
to exist in umineko MYSTERY WORLD they must have counterparts,

>> No.24479886
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24479886

Lambda is a FRAUD and magic ISN'T REAL

>> No.24479891

>>24478350
>The only "truth" that anyone needs to decide on for themselves is whether or not the Ushiromiya family were actually heartless assholes with no love.
Kinzo: an incestuous rapist and murderer with no regard for his family
Krauss: a loser who embazzles money from his dying father
Eva: a mean-spirited murderer
Rudolf: a swindler and murderer
Rosa: a cold-hearted bitch who abuses her own daughter
Jessica: dumb bimbo with big tits
George: a jealous and insidious beta boy
Battler: molestor
Ange: dumb cunt who romantically loves her own brother
Maria: autistic kid with murderous power fantasies
Natsuhi: murderer and a harsh bitch
Hideyoshi: indecisive murderer
Kyrie: psychopathic mass murderer

>> No.24479900

>>24478544
>why Bern is so obsessed with Ange, why she want make her suffer?
Bern is a lesbian and Ange is hot af. Anybody would want to humiliate her.

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>>24479886
What went wrong?

>> No.24479943

>>24479197
Yes, otherwise Satoko and Rika will pale in comparison to the Higanbana lolis.

>> No.24479944

>>24479900
look
your solution imply degeneration shit

my solution like any mystery derive the solution fom the story with logic and proof

SO DEGENERAITON OT LOGIC WHAT IS THE REAL SOLUTION?

>> No.24479997

>>24479900
Bern is jealous that Ange gets to have a lewd hairy pussy while she's stuck as a loli forever.

>> No.24480367

>>24471886
>Yeah, and we still haven't gotten conclusive answers to our questions.
We got conclusive answers and they're retarded. That's the thing.

>> No.24480444

I'm only here for the reaction and meme images

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>>24480444
Here's some OC

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24480587

Reminder that Battler canonically has the right to eat Maria's 20yo pussy.

>> No.24480764

Are there any other, non WTC VNs with a mystery as core plot hook? Mystery which happens in multiple routes, with more and more tips being given as reader go through them?

>> No.24480797

>>24480764
Certainly.

>> No.24480819

>>24480764
Kara no Shoujo is the closest that comes to mind as far as a murder mystery with detective work.

>> No.24480929

>>24480819
Kara no Shoujo is on my to read list for like 5 years now, but I always put it for later, since it doesn't look moe.

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>>24480929
You've got some good principles, my man.

>> No.24480984

>>24480929
Can put it off for a little longer still, the english patch for the HD version will be finished next month.

>> No.24481061

>>24480970
Rika-chama is moe
>>24480984
Thanks for the heads up, I need to sit down for a day to catch up with releases and fan translations, since I was on a break from VNs for quite a while. Amagami and Mahoutsukai still in translation, some things never change.

>> No.24481424

>>24481061
Mahoutsukai no Yoru got picked up few months ago after the full patch of the french translation released, to be (re)translated in english. The translation is finish apparently, there are just QC/proof reading that has to be done. It's translated from french.

>> No.24481537

>>24481424
My english is so bad, today. Sorry.

>> No.24483559
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24483559

EVA... now THAT'S a witch.

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>ywn go on a date with this qt
>ywn make her happy
>ywn hug her and tell her everything is alright
How do I cope? Its physically painful bros. I haven't had any social interaction since before covid and I think it's starting to show.

>> No.24485181

>>24478544
You should read the side story "The witches' Tabanata". I think the voyager witches aren't exactly villians, but how do they call it in EP5, are actors to drive Beatrice's game with Battler.
If I interprete all Episodes correctly, Eva indeed loved Ange until her death but had put the evil masquerade to protect Ange. From the side story Bern somehow represents Ange's hope turned into her unfounded decision to hate her aunt- well still hoping she is the culprit. After getting titties she is constantly questioned by her enviroment- school, the 18 years waiting and the bottle messages and the media.
For short, Ange had bad luck.

>> No.24485375

>>24485181
>You should read the side story "The witches' Tabanata". I think the voyager witches aren't exactly villians, but how do they call it in EP5, are actors to drive Beatrice's game with Battler.

if Ikuko is Yasu then yes Bern is a witch.
when erika lost against Beatrice during ep6, Bern disappier why?
because Bern was an erika pawn, so Bern is not outside this universe but part of it.
Her obsession with Ange is just part of Bern's nature of what Bern.

>eva hate Ange
Eva never hate Ange, she loved Goerge more than anything else and make him a monster so she choice to be hated by Ange.

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>>24480587

>> No.24487728

Being a cute girl is pathetic. I mean, nobody gets imagined in all sorts of disgraceful situations more than cute girls.

>> No.24487967

That would be freaking cool a rythm game with all the BGM from WTC and RGD with some song having choregraphy in the same vein as Project Diva or Persona rythm games.

>> No.24492759
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24492759

So I'm playing Higu with this https://nyaa.si/view/1170892 torrent. I wanted to know if there is a way to disable the lip sync since it looks pretty bad. Has anyone played with the 07th mod before?

>> No.24493128

>>24487967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCSpF7TJAQI&list=PLqtqroQZbiDMJ6KC-eoEItHMH736HbKGR&index=93

>> No.24494301

>>24492759
It's better to download each chapter separately and apply the patch yourself. The patch is customizable.
https://nyaa.si/user/superelmo?f=0&c=0_0&q=Higurashi
Patch : https://07th-mod.com/wiki/Higurashi/Higurashi-Getting-started/
There's still no patch for Matsuri.

>> No.24494452

>>24494301
Wow why did it take 5 years for them to rerelease Higu? And thanks Anon, will do. The lip sync just looks weird IMO

>> No.24494568

>>24494301
Isn't this a patch for Matsuri?
https://github.com/07th-mod/matsuribayashi/

>> No.24494897

>>24494568
Ah, it is. Mea culpa.

>> No.24494933

>>24494568
It's a wip, though.

>> No.24494947

>>24494897
>>24494933
I manually installed it but didn't see an option to turn of lip sync unfortunately. Alas.

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24494977

>>24494947
That sounds like a You problem

>> No.24495174

>>24494947
Use the installer then. You can choose what to patch.

>> No.24496467

>tfw no furniture

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>>24496467
Where is my real life Shannon-chan?! Kanon-chan!?!

>> No.24497320

>>24496752
I love Shannon's design so much I wish she was my wife

>> No.24498210

Why was Shion so soft as the game master? I expected her to fuck Mion in the ass with a strap on and make her beg for mercy in front of Satoggo.

>> No.24504059

Shannon a cute

>> No.24504101

https://occult-world.com/gaap/
>He appears in the form of a doctor when he takes on a human form. He is the most excellent doctor of women, and he makes them burn with love for men.] he is the guide of the foure principall kings, as mightie as Bileth.

>> No.24504309

Higurashi is fucking boring. The only thing that keeps me going is Mion's juicy tits.

>> No.24505224

>>24504309
She must be ashamed of having tits that big despite being a minor!

>> No.24505397

>>24504309
I bet you are using some weird mod instead of playing the original. That shit kills the atmosphere, highlighting its flaws.

>> No.24505438

>>24504309
It sounds like you are playing with the steam sprites. Don't do that, play with the OG sprites or at least the PS3 sprites.

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>>24505397
>>24505438
If I were playing with the original sprites, I wouldn't have noticed them.

>> No.24506089

>>24505438
Steam sprites give a nice and tidy feeling to the game, but I switched to OG sprites for Umineko.
Don't top those expressive faces

>> No.24506116

>>24505686
Are you using voices? Those really destroy the intended atmosphere in Higurashi.

They also make the Kinzo section of EP7 look dumb and stupid because you hear Italian characters clearly speaking Japanese.

>> No.24506133

>>24505686
If you are playing the Steam version you won't see Satoko's preteen tits exposed for everyone to see. They censored the sprite.

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Left - shit
Middle - ok
Right - godly
Anyone who disagrees is either a pretentious newfaggot playing the part of an oldfaggot or a shitposter, so don't listen to them.

>> No.24508646

>>24507181
I'm reading second chapter now, please tell me that Mion wins. Though I'm 99% sure it will be Rena, since she is more genki.
I would prefer Shion, but art spoiled me that I will be cucked by Sunohara from Clannad.

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>>24508646
Cucked by Sunohara, kek.
You should know that he is massively into NTR and will always lose to the chad MC in the end, so don't worry.

>> No.24509332

>>24507181
The original sprites were the best at expressing strong emotions.
The new Steam sprites look kinda dumb

>> No.24510936
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Ryukishi07's message on the last volume of Episode 8 manga adaptation.

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>>24510936

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My friend that is starting Umineko asked me if Beatrice was trans because of some bullshit he saw people saying on the internet

>> No.24511258

>>24506133
That's an understatement. You get to see her bald pussy too, slit and all! Pathetic!

>> No.24511281

>>24510936
>>24510948
>it's time the cat box to be opened
ryu was always a hack

>> No.24511284

>>24511108
She's not.

>> No.24511311

>>24511281
He overestimated the intelligence of his readers and had two of his following series sabotaged as a result. Anyone would open the damn cat box after getting so much undeserved shit.

>> No.24511430

>>24511108
TOP KEK, that sounds awful
You could tell him discord trannies try to make everything about them, which isn't false

>> No.24511535

>>24510948
>>24510936
B-But the manga isn't canon! I'm sure r07 didnt approve of every detail! Ahhhh my catbox!!! MY TRUTH!!! What about the catbox message of Umineko!? What about all my unanswered questions that are unanswered because I refuse to accept the answer provided!???

>> No.24511638

>>24511284
I know that
>>24511430
I did say that, he understood that it was just autism

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>>24511638
You should tell him something about discord trannies LMAO

>> No.24511792

>>24511738
I'm sorry but I don't know what discord trannies are

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The only thing that I hate in the ep8 manga is how they changed the Battler vs Erika fight
In the vn they throw everything they have at each other, making the most absurd closed room possible
In the mange it's just Erika seething that she lost in ep6

>> No.24511939

>>24511311
it's ok, we still like umineko, but it's time to admit you're a hack

>> No.24511952

>>24507181
holy shit you

>> No.24511957

>>24505686
If WEREN'T*
>>24506116
Everyone's voices are lovely. They add more to the characters. Besides, the more tense
>>24507181
Right looks retarded, middle looks bland.

>> No.24512446

>>24506133
wait really? does the 7th mod fix that?

>> No.24514314

>>24510936
>>24510948
So does this mean what happened in the Episode 7 tea party is essentially the truth? Or at least some variation or Rudolf and Kyrie being the killers?

>> No.24514465

>>24514314
Wait, did you think it wasn't a mass murder carried out by Rudolf and Kyrie?

>> No.24514470

>>24514314
It seems to be the case. We already have a hint in the VN with Ange reaction after reading the the Book of Single Truth.

>> No.24514512

>>24514465
>>24514470
Bern did say that was the worst fragment she could find. And when she spoke in red she was going to say "This the truth of a sorts" before Ange cut her off. So it's still not confirmed that those two did it.

>> No.24514670

>>24514512
I thought the "worst fragment" she found was the one where Battler joined in on the killing?

>> No.24515219

>>24514670
No IIRC that was just a twisted game board she set up to torture Ange more. The Episode 7 Tea Party was the "worst fragment".

>> No.24515385

>>24445720
Xaki is incredibly based, especially his work in RGD. Dai's tracks are all just way too similar, which was especially bad in RGD which has such a different feel to it than the regular WTCs

>> No.24516074

>>24512446
Satoko is only completely butt-naked in the original release (and the shitty old Mangagamer one from the mid 2000s). Modern Mangagamer censored it for Steam and the sprite is already censored in every console release from PS2 onwards.

>> No.24516182

>Japanese summer festival turns into a nightmarish slasher flick
>Man is transported to the afterlife by a witch during the month of Halloween
>Schizos are forced to kill each other on Christmas
The next WTC after Ciconia will have something to do with a spring festivity. Maybe Valentine's day, but that's too early for spring.

If you think about it, Key novels follow the same pattern of setting the story during a certain season of the year. Except they started with a winter story instead.

>> No.24517003

>>24453531
for me it's "and then Sünya Sky happened"

>> No.24518535

>>24511957
>Besides, the more tense
moments have little or no dialogue.

>> No.24522191

Maria is! She just kinda is!

>> No.24522230

>>24522191
-retarded
how humiliating

>> No.24522424

>>24445698
dlanor is flat

>> No.24522589

>>24522424
...flat out the best.

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>>24511957
>Right looks retarded
Oh yeah, the new sprites really look dumb compared to these old masterpieces.

>> No.24522803

>>24510936
>>24510948
>this is all up to you, natsumi-sensei, so decict the cat box as much you possible can
ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahah

BAsed yukishi confirm that the manga is just a fanfiction of the mangaka
>>24511535
MANGA CUT,ADD AND CHANGE HALF OF THE STORY TO MAKE SHKANONTRICE WORKS

>> No.24523263

>>24522803
But only Ryukishi and Natsumi Kei knows what's in the cat box. Only them had the Truth. So, what happend in the manga might be the truth, at least the Episode Natsumi adapt to manga.

>> No.24523410

>>24523263
Nope natsumi know Shkanontrice
the lie who obtain the rigth of be called truth thanks people who didnt notice that Erika was the worst detective ever during ep 5 and 6

>> No.24524744

>>>/v/515013267
>RGD thread on /v/
So it's not as shitty as I thought

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Does this page make anyone else horny?

>> No.24525825

>>24525713
I really wish I was Maria, that way I could be verbally and physically abused by Rosa every day and secretly get off to it

>> No.24528393

>>24525713
Imagine dating Rosa and then molesting Maria when Rosa is busy with work haha

>> No.24528459

>>24522803
The manga made a logic error about the closed chapel. I cannot forgive that.

>> No.24528582

>>24528393
Imagine dating Maria and then cheating on her with Rosa

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>>24522803
Here's a quote from r07 himself in the "Say It In Red!" interview.
Cope.

>>24528459
Not actually a logic error as this person addressed here: https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Banquet_of_the_Golden_Witch/Truth?useskin=oasis

It's just convoluted and kinda pointless way around it since it couldve been fixed with a couple extra words, but not impossible. Just a genuine error on r07 and Kei's part.

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>>24529033
Lambda the game-master in End of the golden witch confirm Natsuhi culprit theory even if was wrong why?

BECAUSE A TRUTH THAT CANT BE FIND HAS NO RIGTH TO BE CALLED TRUTH

Shkanontrice win this rigth and Ryukishi act according with this

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>>24460458
To be a person Rena would be happy to be with.

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>>24529033
>Just a genuine error on r07 and Kei's part.
a mystery is a love story between Reader and Writer
this error is called insult to the reader and break this relationship.
Ryukishi make 400 hours of reading about this,,how could you belive that anon?

Just Shkanontrice biggest error is the chapel,so the perfect place to put a riddle to make understand that Shkanon is wrong

>> No.24530354

>>24528393
Would Rosa thank you if you buttfucked the autism out of Maria?

>> No.24530404

>>24529171
Does Rena really get wet around cute little girls or is that part of her fake persona?

>> No.24531650

what did Rudolf mean saying "i'll probably be killed tonight"
is he just speaking hyperbolically about revealing the truth about Battler?

>> No.24531731

>>24531650
he speak about Kyrie
he wanted revail to Kyrie that Battler is her real son

>> No.24531780

>>24530404
rena probably thinks her friends are cute, but all instances of "I want to take her home" are either a) a way of coping with something or b) playing the part of the ditz to create plausible deniability for instances of a).
Imo it's important to make the distinction that, while Renas persona is a performance, her feelings of attachment to her friends and the fact that she enjoys spending time with them are still real. It's similar to how Rika functions.

>> No.24532078

>>24531650
I wouldn't even call it a hyperbole, considering how fucked up his actions were.

>> No.24532305

>>24511874
I do think Erika showing she actually ended up solving everything is pretty cool though, you already have decontextualized closed rooms in Beato vs Ange anyways

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>>24484607
Cope with lucid dreaming. I've had dreams with Rena, Mion and my Rika before.

>> No.24533103

So how far long is Ciconia 2?

>> No.24533390

>>24533103
Why did they delay it anyway? Because of Covid? Do they even release VNs like that physically anymore?

>> No.24533584

>>24533103
We will get some big news this automn ans he's working hard on Phase 2 from Ryukishi's last tweet.

>> No.24533931

>>24446625
What is the most ridiculous culprit theory that some people postulate seriously?

>> No.24533933

The ending of Ciconia is so fucking cool

>> No.24534062

>>24508646
>I'm reading second chapter now, please tell me that Mion wins
This is a wholesome harem simulator. He ends up with all of them in the same place where he started.

>> No.24534138

>>24511108
Weeeeelllll she is a tranny. The only reasonably justifiable kind of tranny that is.

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>>24533933
It is. Gave me massive chills when I read it. So fucking depressing too. Also I'm really curious as to what this massive hole in the sky is on the left. It's so unnatural and I'm sure it represents something larger we just don't know yet.

>> No.24534330

>>24479886
Why the fuck would anyone ever accept a deal with someone Avatarfagging as a WTC character? Willard Wright, maybe.

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biggest baka

>> No.24535247

>>24534592
Literal visionary

>> No.24535519

>>24534592
amazing how they turned one of the worst characters in the series into one of the best by revealing that he knows boxing and is a dumbass

>> No.24535551

>>24535519
Rocky I is actually a retelling of Krauss and Natsuhi's backstory of how they met and got together.

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>>24535519
Its amazing how I identify more with Krauss's struggles than any other character, truly one of the most well thought out of the roster

>> No.24536837

What is the best way to read parts 7 and 8 if I don't want the PS3 censorship or the atrocious MangaGamer sprites?

>> No.24536847

>>24536837
then just read it normally?
the fuck is this question

>> No.24536873

>>24536847
Can't read Japanese, bucko.

>> No.24536876

I think it's okay to reject the manga's explanation. The VNs were a finished product where R07 had complete creative freedom to walk away with the experience he created, and that was what he chose to present. Anything he chooses to add on to that experience after the finished product is subject to exclusion by the audience because it is no longer part of that original experience.

And if you disagree with this, then you must be okay with things like this then:
>Several characters in Harry Potter are actually non-white, gay, or trans, with no mention of it in the story, even when it was convenient to do so, or confusing not to do so, and this was also done conveniently at a time where the author would be applauded for announcing a change like this.

>> No.24536952

>>24536873
reading it normally implies reading the vanilla english release
if you don't want to see MG sprites then just go into the config and turn them off

>>24536876
Don't care about Harry Potter, but like you said "with no mention of it in the story". Pretty much everything in the manga is at the very least hinted at and the conclusion most people had already come to. The manga just spells everything out to make it easy, everything that was already alluded to. You're acting as though the manga retroactively changed everything. That aside, a tweet saying "character X is gay" is drastically different from a complete adaption of a work that expands on the source material. That's like saying the Director's Cut of various movies aren't canon because those scenes weren't in the initial release of the film.
Cope.

>> No.24536970

>>24536952
the manga change, cut and add half of the story
is not umineko is a different story based on umineko worldbuilding

>> No.24536972

>>24536952
>if you don't want to see MG sprites then just go into the config and turn them off
Oh, I didn't know that. Silly me.

>> No.24537018

>>24536952
There's a huge difference between something being suggested/implied and being outright stated. The problem is that you are looking at an expansion as if it should be taken at face value, when there was already a complete product. An expansion on a complete product, in my opinion, is always a reinterpretation, rather than an expansion. This is especially true in a medium like a visual novel where the only thing stopping you from saying something is your choice to put the words on the screen. There is no concern for things like budget, artistic ability, etc. that other mediums must manage. What you see is literally what you get. R07 chose to create an experience where things were ambiguous, on purpose. That experience still exists. If a reader likes, they may choose to accept his posthumous addition, but that's all it is. It is not part of the completed work, it is a reinterpretation of his own work.

>> No.24537076

i wouldnt mind impregnating ange if i had to

>> No.24537106

>>24537018
It's not a reinterpretation of his own work, it just giving you more of his original "interpretation". The manga is r07 literally just giving you more information he previously withheld. It doesn't change the original, he's not changing his mind about things, he's not giving a different interpretation, he's just removing the fog to make everything that was already there clear to see. All I see is your desperate attempt to try and give yourself an excuse to turn a blind eye to the manga. In the end it will always boil down to you believing what you want, and nobody has the power to reason that away.

>>24537076
not if I do it first

>> No.24537133

>>24537106
>The manga is r07 literally just giving you more information he previously withheld.
more fanfiction
manga cut patrs and add new parts
is called new story

>> No.24537203

>>24536952
The Anime is a official adaption and is considered as non-canon because there are some "mistakes". The Manga has it's own mistakes and Changes. It's just the prettier product. I prefer discussing the VN. The Manga is a bpproved by-product by the author.

>> No.24537216

>>24537203
The difference being r07 was heavily involved in the manga and can be quoted as saying "It is an official answer from me."

>> No.24537235

>>24537106
When I say reinterpretation, I mean that he is attempting to transform a completed work into something new by adding things to it that weren't previously there. It's fine that he had certain things in mind when he was writing the story, and he now wants to communicate those things to people clearly. But the issue is that he chose to create the original work in a way that did not disclose that information, on purpose, and the work as it exists in that state still has value and meaning. To say, "That ambiguity doesn't exist, the author said this, and that contradicts what he chose to present," diminishes the value of the work, and because of that reason I believe the audience has the right to ignore it, treating it as a reinterpretation rather than a continuation.

To be concise, it does change the original. If you say, "This could be A or B," and then later say, "It was definitely B," you have made a change. Just because B was one of the options, that doesn't mean that the ambiguity of the work didn't have value of its own.

>> No.24537247

>>24537203
For the anime, wasn't r07 not even really involved? He's not even credited outside of being the original creator, but he was the writer for the manga. So I can understand completely dismissing the anime.

>> No.24537289

>>24537216
an official answare with mistake
fake and gay

>> No.24537490

>>24537235
I guess in the end it’s just a difference of how we think. To me it’s no different from a whodunnit novel that didn’t provide the solution, but the author then reveals the answer at a later date. For instance, imagine if in Agatha Christie’s book “And Then There Were None” that the confession bottle had not yet been found. Then, for the 10th anniversary of the book, Agatha Christie released a new edition of the book that came with an epilogue in which the confession bottle was found. It in no way diminishes the value and meaning of the original work. The reader can still theorize and experience the original work the same way. They can of course forgo reading that epilogue if they want to continue theorizing on their own, but when talking about their theory with others, there’s no way to ignore the epilogue. The answer is there to show you the fruits of your labours. All that postulating and theorizing, you can check your answer and see how well you did. That’s what the manga is to me. It adds to the original experience and makes it much more fun in the end. We think to arrive at an end—this isn’t college philosophy, it’s a mystery with a solution.
I even think different in regards to you’re A/B example. The answer was always B, but there was enough room for people to wiggle in their postulated A. To some that B might’ve looked blurry and appeared to look like an 8. The author just came along and said, “It’s definitely not A or 8.”

>> No.24537823

>>24537490
I haven't read the manga, but as far as I can tell, the only thing confirmed there that wasn't in the original is Bern's EP7 ending. All of the mystery scenarios introduced in the story are solvable, and the answer is even given to you, albeit in a roundabout way. Not everything is 100% foolproof explained, but nothing ever truly is in reality. You can have an understanding of all the murders just by reading the VNs. I just really object to confirming that EP7 is true because I feel it directly goes against the themes of the game, and takes the fun away from readers who like to imagine for themselves what might have happened based on the info we have. I don't think the manga is as significant as you make it out to be, but it's for that reason that I find it frustrating that R07 felt he had to go out of his way to make a confirmation like that. Personally I will never accept any canon answer as to what actually happened on Rokkenjima that night, because it goes against the whole point of the story as written.

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>> No.24538325

>>24537823
Apologize if I made it sound like I place a great importance on the manga, I don't really. To me the only significance in the manga is in volume 8 with more of Sayo's story, the extra details surrounding Ikuko/Tohya, and confession. Outside of that there's not much that's actually new or important. They're just cool extra details that make things more clear.

>> No.24538339

shinto priest who built the shrine is the culprit

>> No.24538350
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Cmon Shkanontrice fags explain why erika didnt saw nothing in the closet

>> No.24538490
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24538490

Phase 2 is not real

>> No.24538690

>>24525713
absolutely DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC

>> No.24538712

>>24528393
imagine rosa knowing about it but secretly pretending it isnt happening and beating maria more when she tries to make it an issue

>> No.24538742
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Marisa culprit theory

>> No.24538771

>>24538742
that's just jessica

>> No.24538776
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24538776

I'll say it in Blue! The reason the bodies weren't found wasn't because of the bomb, but because Orin hid them!

>> No.24539635

>>24538742
Is there just 1 English-looking mansion in Japan?

>> No.24539671

Sonozaki Melon

>> No.24539714

>>24539635
It's the only one on Tokyo, at least.

>> No.24539922

>>24538742
Jessica's concert in episode 2 is the single best moment in all of WTC and the reason why Ry07 got famous in the first place.

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>> No.24540539
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What did Miyao mean by this?

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>>24540539

>> No.24540957

>>24540539
>>24540791
the hands STILL look like that?

>> No.24541323

>>24531780
But does she masturbate to loli or is she only into dick?

>> No.24541452

>>24538490
What if Ryukishi didn't release a VN and just said he did.

>> No.24541558

>>24539928
It's missing the best part

>> No.24542233

>>24529171
Already failed at that :(
>>24533020
I don't I'm autistic enough for that yet

>> No.24542847

>>24538350
she closed her eyes

>> No.24542906
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>>24542847
open eyes here
nice try anon

>> No.24542954

>>24533931
Honestly after the manga finished EP8 no one postulates alternative theories seriously anymore. There are probably at least a few unironic Rosatricer out there, and then there's Erikantrice anon.
Even ignoring the manga, having in mind the entirety of Chiru is really hard to make a decent alternate theory at this point, honestly. Rosatrice failed completely, Erikantrice manages to do that at least. But even Erikantrice, while quite different, is still somewhat in line with the official explanation (Yasu is Kinzo's child, she ends up killing people as Beatrice to play a game with Battler). You can't possibly make a, say, Jessicatrice possible without ignoring all of Chiru, which points at Yasu. Actually everything about EP1-4 points at Yasu too but you can theorize more openly in those.

>> No.24542993

>>24542954
>But even Erikantrice, while quite different, is still somewhat in line with the official explanation (Yasu is Kinzo's child, she ends up killing people as Beatrice to play a game with Battler)
this there is written in the story since episode 3
>Yasu is Kinzo's child, she ends up killing people as Beatrice to play a game with Battler
Nope George killed everyone in the reality

>> No.24543051

>>24542993
I mean, in Shkanontrice Yasu doesn't end up killing either. But the gameboards involve the murder mystery game planned by Yasu, no?

>> No.24543097

>>24543051
o yes but George is still the culprit too in every games instead Shkanontrice change everytime

>> No.24543175

>>24543097
Yeah, I understand that, I'm not trying to question your theory, I was just saying it has more in common with Shkanontrice than any other alternative theory I've heard of, so I can see why you could reach your answer even after reading Chiru (regardless of whether I agree with your interpretation or not). On the other hand forcing Rosatrice in Chiru is just that, forcing it. Rosa isn't even important at all in those four episodes (although then again I can see why Rosatrice seems plausible given the first four episodes only).

>> No.24543230

>>24543175
ok just i wanted stated that George is an important as culprit as Yasu.
>more things in common
principally in episode 1 because Shannon die in the 1st twiligth so Shkanontrice was forced to use Kanon as culprit but in other games is very different but i admit that my theory is the most similar to shkanontrice

>> No.24543487

>>24511108
its true

>> No.24543804

>>24530354
Rosa would want to get buttfucked herself and would probably ignore the sexual abuse as long as someone shut up Maria.

>> No.24543814

>>24538712
Wouldn't that be hot haha

>> No.24546785

>>24542954
Then there is Saku. It revealed the relationship between Virgllius and tmf19ya. Knowing this, some things from Erikantrice cannot be unseen. If Virgillus have stayed instead of Erika and not many scenes have changed I guess people would say he is another personality of Sayo. His role was challenging Battler in mystery but Ryukishi changed his mind and fantasy was was discussed in EP3 and 4.

If I care about own interpretations about Chru instead of others I would say "hey, Erika plays a role in Sayo's character developement".

Dunno why Shkannon-people try deny the Erika part - I think it complement to the official Shkannontrice nicely (if you do not include George as a culprit).
The first 2 games had "heartless" murder, we had enough heartless scenes with Beatrice - there is indeed a not-so-nice side of Beatrice. Battler had forgotten this in EP5 after he saw the truth but what about Erika? "You have no love".-by Battler to Erika.
What Erika only has in common with Battler preferences is (his unstated) interest (until EP5) reading mysteries. Beatrice matches his woman preference albeit the execution of playing mystery with him failed miserably.
I'd say Erika is Sayo's cut off personality in games she won't play a witch.

>> No.24547356

>>24541323
Rena doesn't masturbate.

>> No.24547536

>>24547356
that's what I'm by her side for

>> No.24549126

>>24541323
She wants Mion's hairy pussy on her face.

>> No.24550580

Satoko such a lewd ass loli kiddo

>> No.24551265

>>24456235
This could be true if Gohda wasn't busy being the killer

>> No.24551288

>>24475044
To an extent, yeah. But Umineko is also a game, and part of the game is making up solutions and answers with what we've been given. Talking about those answers is part of the fun of the game, even if none of them is Right and Correct(since that sort of base judgement doesn't work for the story).

>> No.24551415

>>24475536
Bernkastel is the Rika who gave up. She's the "Witch of Miracles" in the sense that she "understands" that miracles can't actually happen, and any she makes happen are actually just unlikely events with a possible chance of occurring that's greater than 0%. But in Higurashi, miracles are framed as events that push against fate and break it through a sheer force of will. Fate doesn't exist unless people allow it to, and the Rika who accepted that separated from Bernkastel in Higurashi.

>> No.24551440

>>24507181
Ryukishi's sprites are fun, and I think they're badness makes them more endearing. That said, I think I prefer reading with the PS3 sprites.

>> No.24552162

does anyone have the erika furudo coldsteel the hedgehog edit?

>> No.24552166
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>Ryukishi was right

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>>24552162
I got you

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>>24552174
damn anon thank you so much for the quick response.

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>>24552174
>anghelsakutaro18

>> No.24553539

>>24479886
is he back?

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>>24552166
yeah well it doesn't take a hypercube brain to understand something like that

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>>24553562
Here have this thistle anon. Don't thank me

>> No.24553794

>>24553562
Nope commie media spamming bullies as people with family problems instead of said the truth

>> No.24554701

>>24553794
Bullies should be killd

>> No.24554714

i wish ryukishi cared about ciconia

>> No.24554751

>>24552180
hesburger

>> No.24555056

>>24552180
>fanart uploaded in 2009
you got my hopes up anon for a second there i thought artists were uploading their new art on pixiv again instead of twitter

>> No.24556626

>>24540539
>>24540791
the sexual tension is unbearable

>> No.24556883

>>24554701
Bullying is worse than rape, so cute bullies should legally become sex slaves.

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>>24556883
A..A sex slave..? ME??

>> No.24557255

>>24557010
how do you punish a masochist like Erika?

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>>24557255
Make her watch Battler railing Bernkastel while she shittalks Erika.

>> No.24557977

Characters actually confirmed to have an ass:

>Jessica
>Willard
>who else?

>> No.24558230

willard the gay retard

>> No.24558466

>>24554701
fuck off ange, study more and no one will bully you

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So is there no way to play Higu Episode 8 with voices and PS3 sprites yet?

>> No.24559631

When did Umineko's translation started?

>> No.24559909

So I'm trying to get rid of the lipsync when playing Higu and an anon suggested manually installing the 07th Mod. Thing is the mod doesn't allow you to disable lipsync still. This sucks.

>> No.24560065

>>24559909
I don't know how I did it, but you can disable it.
>>24557306
That's pretty hot, actually.

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>>24557977
Satoko

>> No.24560235

>>24559909
i'm pretty sure there's a hotkey to turn it on/off, i think it's "7" by default

>> No.24560257

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4hCcI8Nx2g
DJ Professor K + Umineko

>> No.24560538

>>24504101
CONFIRMED

>> No.24560718

>>24559909
Use the installer, you can choose what to patch.

>> No.24560739

>>24560065
>>24560235
>>24560718
Yep I'm a dumbass for missing it. Thank you guys.

>> No.24560801

>>24560217
Damn, Satoko looks like this!?

>> No.24561206

>>24553680
should have given me one ten years ago, retard
too late now

>> No.24561334
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24561334

What makes Hanyuu so pure and humiliation-proof?

>> No.24563541

>>24465826
Now that is an album i would buy

>> No.24563779

Miyao's dick is even bigger than Kanon's

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2 Higurashi anime adaptations but still 0 Umineko adaptations. wtf?

>> No.24565190

>>24564973
Let's just hope the new Higurashi leads to a new Umineko.

I'm hoping this won't only focus on the horror aspects. One of the issues with the original umi was it trying to bring back the horror from Higurashi as that is what everyone was expecting.

>> No.24565363

>>24561334
dumb ghost

>> No.24565406

>>24563779
Miyao can be 3 or 11 inches for all I care. It wont make a difference as it sways back and forth while he's being railed over a table.

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>>24564973
Is this the meme where you pretend tthat the Umineko anime doesn't exist?

>> No.24565571

sex with chloe

>> No.24565602

>>24565190
>Umi anime
If the Higu animes does REALLY well, then perhaps they consider adapting Ciconia. If Ciconia does well enough too, then and only then they MIGHT consider Umi

>> No.24565631

>>24565602
Geez, pick a name already. Otherwise your statements will have little to no impact at all.

>> No.24565640

>>24565547
pretend what doesnt exist?

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>>24564973
The Umineko adaption at least gave us meme subs

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>>24565640
The Umineko anime.

>> No.24565683

>>24565547
its cool to think bad adaptations dont exist like tsukihimefags do

>> No.24565707

>>24565678
the what?

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>>24565707
It's right here. https://www.anisearch.de/anime/4987,umineko-no-naku-koro-ni
I would have thought when they cry fans who write on /jp/ would know this.

>>24565683
Oh snap, dayum! I fell for it again.

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>> No.24565843

>>24565751
how can anyone fall for such an age old trick

>> No.24565889

>>24535519
>is a man of means
>1980s
>wants to invest in space travel
Is that really quite that dumb, or was he just before his time?

>> No.24566905

>>24565602
There are little chance that the new Higu anime will do well, most people with watch it out of nostalgia.
But, it might be a good thing for Umineko if the remaster of Umienko Saku is out at the same time as Higu air.

>> No.24566947

>>24566905
will* watch it

>> No.24567098

>>24565889
He was dumb for getting scammed by Mion's uncle, not for wanting to invest in space travel.

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Who the fuck is Shaun Ruskin

>> No.24567613

Will Ryu ever top the creepiness of the secret government agencies from Higurashi? The idea of being kidnapped and erased by some shady elites who want to harvest your organs or experiment with some weird disease is far more disturbing than anything in Umineko or Ciconia.

>> No.24567657

>>24567613
>ywn have Satoko kidnapped and scared into insanity in a government-run satanic dungeon before torturing her to death so you can extract that delicious adrenochrome from her pathetic half-grown body
Why live?

>> No.24567931

Is Maria secretly a Rena expy? They have too many similarities.

>literal sperg
>verbal tic
>acts out her ideal personality in front of people
>lowkey believes in the supernatural
>orange hair
>gets slapped by her parent in a flashback scene
>likes cute stuffed animals
>hates mom
>mom is a bitch
>mom is rich as fuck
>mom is a fashion designer
>mom is fucking some playboy named Akihito
>mom invites her to an expensive restaurant in a flashback scene
Seriously, it has to be intentional.

>> No.24568040

>>24567931
Akihito's character is based on some guy who cucked Ryuukishi's dad IRL. He wrote Rosa to be a fashion designer like Rena's mom so he could bring Akihito back in that Tsubasa side story and imply that he eventually dumped Rena's mom. Which means the guy is probably a fashion designer too. Maybe Rena's mom worked at Rosa's company the whole time after leaving her untalented husband behind.

This is a bit of a crackpot theory, though. Reminds me of that one theory that proved Ooishi is Hideyoshi's uncle because he and George have the same yellow jacket.

>> No.24572965
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24572965

Gamers no Naku Koro Ni

>> No.24573793

I got little confused after third Higurashi chapter, in all cast review they were saying that next chapter will be maekashi, with Shion as main character.
But maekashi is ep 5 and before that there is still himatsubushi as the last question arc, right?

>> No.24574209

>>24573793
5 was delayed and originally meant to be in the place of 4
the 4th episode is the shortest out of all of them because ryukishi made it just to publish something in time

>> No.24574254

>>24574209
Thank you

>> No.24574554

>>24573793
Confusion after Tatarigoroshi is usual.

>> No.24574771

>>24574554
I had a lot of fun reading it, I like how Ooshi switched from one of few "allies" in earlier chapters to villain, and Takano getting more and more exposure. I hope that this conspiracy plot from 1st chapter, with vans, men in uniforms and some "Director" mentioned by Mion and Shion will reappear soon.

>> No.24574915

>>24574771
Tatarigoroshi is fucking great, I had the exact same thoughts after reading it.
You'll love the answer arcs even more if you've been theorizing all the time during the question arcs like this.

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