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Artist looks familiar. Taka?

>>2443484
It looks a bit like him, but I'm pretty sure it isn't his.

Artist is Aluciz.

OP here,

Aluciz.

You can see more here

http://aluciz.deviantart.com/gallery/

Not a coincidence it seems. He says on deviantart that Tony's style is one of his favorite. Some pictures also makes me think of Murata.

so we went from danbooru to deviant art?
how exciting

>>2443737
The artist can be a /b/tard for all I care. If the art's good, the art's good.

>>2443738
Agreed, good artists deserve respect regardless of where they came from.

Such fucking generic art, he's like a Taka clone, only worse.

Seriously, http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Thank-you-akibakko-82028801 what the fuck. This is pretty much exactly how Taka draws his faces, though it seems like a child trying to copy that.

>>2443738
>If the art's good, the art's good.

That's just it. It's not good. It's shit. The guy clearly has a problem drawing hands and feet, as you can see from this http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Arisa-another-81345918

So fucking stiff and awkward. Look, I have nothing against the guy but if you honestly think he's good at drawing you need to fucking kill yourself.

>>2443759
-10/10. I didn't even have to start reading your post for my anti-troll mindset to automatically adjust to maximum.

>>2443759
it's /jp/ standard

>>2443738

Exactly. And he does seem to draw pretty damn well.

>>2443761
>lol hurr i can't come up with a proper argument so i'll sage and call you a troll

herp derp.

>>2443763
then /jp/ has surprisingly low standards, given how much great touhou art i've seen on here.

>>2443781
You don't give a proper argument against someone who is incapable of giving a proper argument. It's unfair.

Also, is this your first time on /jp/? Because you seem to be so new that you don't even know what sage is.

trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls

>>2443786

I brought up valid points, all of which you refused to acknowledge.

Seeing as you believe yourself so superior to me in terms of mentality, let's see you justify how that art is in any way, shape or form "good".

I'll be waiting.

>>2443795
>That art sucks. Prove me wrong.
Are you really this bad at trolling? ...Really?

>>2443805

I can tell you have no determination whatsoever to bring your argument to the table. You can only really call me a troll on the basis that you have no other grounds to match me on.

I guess that means I win.

>>2443808
I can't allow myself to argue against someone who doesn't have any arguments. It's called "bullying."

Also, you don't seem to have the faintest grasp of what victory in argument is.

>>2443819

Ok I think it's pretty clear I'm talking to a kid now. I'm assuming you're aged around 16-17?

Well consider this your lucky day. I'll show you my side of the argument, and you can agree with me because you know I'm right. That, or you can just call me a troll, which I'm going to take as a sign of defeat on your behalf.

Firstly, let's examine his gallery, shall we?
>http://aluciz.deviantart.com/gallery/
Pretty much all the faces are face on, or 3/4 view. Pretty standard angle to draw from. Not that it's bad, but it certainly warrants no creativity.

Ok, now that we've got that out of the way, let's take a look at how he draws hands.
>http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Yod-commission-109260637
Hmmm... notice anything in particular? Exactly, there seems to be no proper structure to these. The fingers are like sausages, and that certainly isn't how knuckles look like.
>http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Arisa-remakeo-76099558
Go ahead and tell me that's a great example of how hands are drawn. Go on. What's the matter? That thumb look a bit off to you? Now that you mention it, that's not how a palm works either.

Of course, for the most part he keeps the hands hidden, well away from the gaze of the viewer. And for good reason, he doesn't seem to be able to properly draw them.

Moving on
>http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Girl-Swimsuit-78893328
Beautiful. Simply amazing, such fine artwork indeed! That pose sure doesn't look uncomfortable, and boy did he do a GREAT job with perspective or what?

I could go on, but I don't think it's worth the effort really. I've made my point, I won't bother waiting for you since we all know you'll just give me a nice star rating and call me a troll.

Consider yourself defeated, good sir.

>>2443819
"bullying"
now we know you really are trolling

>>2443833
SUP GIL

>Exactly, there seems to be no proper structure to these. The fingers are like sausages, and that certainly isn't how knuckles look like.
>Of course, for the most part he keeps the hands hidden, well away from the gaze of the viewer. And for good reason, he doesn't seem to be able to properly draw them.
zunsmirk.jpg

>>2443852
ZUN confirmed as artist

http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Henrietta-smile-40873462
nice trace of murata bro

>>2443838
goddammit this is why i love /jp/

Some of his best drawings are also based on other artist's works:

http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/Arisa-Xmas-45148409
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/101801

http://aluciz.deviantart.com/art/blizzy-MOE-shining-girl-40950247
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/150263/

He admits it himself so nothing against him there, but it's not really his art, so I wouldn't call him good.

Last time I checked, this was 4chan.

If you like an image, you can save it.

If you don't like an image, you don't have to.

If you think there are better images, you can post them.

If you don't care, you can always go to another thread that actually interests you.

This is the most pathetic thread I have seen on 4chan in a long, long time.

>>2443911

>If you think there are better images, you can post them.

Done.

>>2443925

See, that's a start. Now if we can have more of that and less whining, we might be able to get a good thread going here.

I have to be honest. UBW and HF sort of made me forget about Saber. It makes me feel like I should feel bad, but I don't.

>>2443929

I take your words and feed them to you.

>Last time I checked, this was 4chan.

Endless bitching is a beyond a staple and into a primary function.

>>2443931

>>2443911
>This is the most pathetic thread I have seen on 4chan in a long, long time.

You must be new here.

>>2443941

>>2443931
Yeah, same. I liked Saber a lot in the Fate route, but after that she just sort of died down. Rin stayed with me the whole way through. Didn't care for Sakura.

>>2443959

Before this line, >>2443941 shows up briefly.

>>2443979
｡･ﾟ(ノД`)ﾟ・。

>>2443838
Well, at least you're putting a bit of meat around your idiocy this time. Let's see...

>Ok I think it's pretty clear I'm talking to a kid now. I'm assuming you're aged around 16-17?
You missed a comma, smart one. Also, it doesn't take much to tell that you just employed the particularly popular (and ineffective!) troll of ageistic argumentum ad hominem, does it?

>Well consider this your lucky day.
You accuse me of being of high school age and then repeatedly fail to display a grasp of grammar above the high school level... Are you doing this intentionally?

>I'll show you my side of the argument, and you can agree with me because you know I'm right.
Don't act so megalomaniacal before you even start the meat of your post, please.

>That, or you can just call me a troll, which I'm going to take as a sign of defeat on your behalf.
So... are you saying you're going to take it as a sign of defeat in my defense or are you saying you're going to take it as a sign of defeat to my benefit? Hm...

You should refrain from attempting to use words you do not understand. Those who are seen as intelligent are those who do not take the risk of making themselves appear foolish.

>Firstly, let's examine his gallery, shall we?
"Firstly" is exclusively an adverb, yet you seem to be attempting to use it as something else. Do you think that making yourself appear pretentious is more important than actually, you know... arguing your point?

>>2443838
>Pretty much all the faces are face on, or 3/4 view. Pretty standard angle to draw from. Not that it's bad, but it certainly warrants no creativity.
Just so you won't whine about it, let me establish something quickly. Your use of the phrase "Not that it's bad" invalidated this entire point before I even came across it. We are arguing the quality of the artwork.

Now, on to the point I want to make. I feel that your terminology is iffy, but I'll let that slide. However, I am absolutely certain of the fact that you have misused the word "warrants." What you have said here basically means that his chosen angle does not provide any reason for some unknown party to be creative. I'm fairly certain that this was not your intended meaning.

>Ok, now that we've got that out of the way, let's take a look at how he draws hands.
The word you were looking for in this sentence was "gotten," not "got."

>Hmmm... notice anything in particular?
Yes, I do. The head is not clearly defined and thus appears unnatural. However, this phenomenon is common to and even appreciated in his preferred style. However, I thought we were supposed to be talking about fingers...

>Exactly, there seems to be no proper structure to these.
The fingers? Well... I see the proper differences in length, number of knuckles and straight structure between knuckles.

>>2443838
>The fingers are like sausages, and that certainly isn't how knuckles look like.
...What the hell are you talking about? Sausages don't differ wildly in length, aren't rigid, and do not have small bumps at bending points. Are you just bullshitting?

>Go ahead and tell me that's a great example of how hands are drawn. Go on.
Only one hand is visible and only from a very limited perspective, so I'm afraid I can't.

>What's the matter? That thumb look a bit off to you?
Eh... no, not particularly. Maybe a bit long if I'm looking specifically for something to nitpick, but she's wearing a glove, so that would be a foolish nit to pick.

>Now that you mention it, that's not how a palm works either.
...The palm isn't even *visible*. What the hell are you *talking* about?

>Of course, for the most part he keeps the hands hidden, well away from the gaze of the viewer.
To be accurate, this means that the hands do not exist at all. It's not like he's basing most of this stuff on human models, after all, so the hands really don't exist until he creates them. Also, you probably should have used another comma in there.

>And for good reason, he doesn't seem to be able to properly draw them.
I'm not even sure how to interpret this sentence. That might have something to do with the comma splice, though! Also, no imaginable interpretation of this sentence would make it important.

>Moving on
Are you just skipping the punctuation entirely now?

>>2443838
Also, to summarize your next point, you took one fairly old example and tried to make his entire body of work, past and present, out to be trash based on it.

Beautiful. Simply amazing. Such a fine argument, indeed!

>I could go on, but I don't think it's worth the effort really.
Nor do I. Also, you forgot yet another comma.

>I've made my point, I won't bother waiting for you
Here is another sentence which has fallen to a comma splice...

>since we all know you'll just give me a nice star rating and call me a troll.
I find it amusing that I hadn't even read this part of your post until just before I copied it to my clipboard.

>Consider yourself defeated, good sir.
I'm afraid not. Are you satisfied with how thoroughly I've demonstrated your foolishness? If not, would you care for another round?

>>2443838
By the way...

>how knuckles look like.

It's either "how x look(s)" or "what x look(s) like". It is most certainly not "how x look(s) like".

You can tell someone's through when their main argument is about the other person's grammar.

>>2444004
>>2444005
>>2444009
>>2444010

Congratulations on being a colossal faggot.

Take it to dA.

>>2444021
>I've got nothin'.
o ok

>>2444020
You can tell someone's stupid when they throw up strawmen.

>>2444010
I don't really have a point of view on your whole who is an artist who is not argument...

But pointing out his lack of punctuation is not defeating his argument. He's brought up several points that you have utterly failed to counter, and instead chosen to take the high road of Comma attacks.

>>2444032
"Because you said some things which weren't refutations of his arguments, you did not say anything which was a refutation of his arguments."

Yeah, nice logic.

>>2444032
Oh, by the way, there were some missing commas which I did not even address... due to the fact that I was too busy *refuting his arguments* to remember them.

>>2444046
You don't say...
Could you itemize those for us? I'm not sure the rest of your argument has convinced me yet.

>>2444038
You've certainly counter some of his points well enough. But lets take this as an example

>Pretty much all the faces are face on, or 3/4 view. Pretty standard angle to draw from. Not that it's bad, but it certainly warrants no creativity.
Just so you won't whine about it, let me establish something quickly. Your use of the phrase "Not that it's bad" invalidated this entire point before I even came across it. We are arguing the quality of the artwork.

Now, on to the point I want to make. I feel that your terminology is iffy, but I'll let that slide. However, I am absolutely certain of the fact that you have misused the word "warrants." What you have said here basically means that his chosen angle does not provide any reason for some unknown party to be creative. I'm fairly certain that this was not your intended meaning.
You ignore his comment about the point of view the artist in question uses frequently, and again insult him on grammatical and language issues.


>And for good reason, he doesn't seem to be able to properly draw them.

>I'm not even sure how to interpret this sentence. That might have something to do with the comma splice, though! Also, no imaginable interpretation of this sentence would make it important.


Again, you take the issue of the artist avoiding a body part due to his lack of talent with it and turn it into an argument about his use of Commas.

I really don't care about the way he draws things, I'm not an artist in the damn slightest, but this isn't the way to win an argument.

>>2444038
You've certainly counter some of his points well enough. But lets take this as an example

>Pretty much all the faces are face on, or 3/4 view. Pretty standard angle to draw from. Not that it's bad, but it certainly warrants no creativity.
Just so you won't whine about it, let me establish something quickly. Your use of the phrase "Not that it's bad" invalidated this entire point before I even came across it. We are arguing the quality of the artwork.

Now, on to the point I want to make. I feel that your terminology is iffy, but I'll let that slide. However, I am absolutely certain of the fact that you have misused the word "warrants." What you have said here basically means that his chosen angle does not provide any reason for some unknown party to be creative. I'm fairly certain that this was not your intended meaning.

You ignore his comment about the point of view the artist in question uses frequently, and again insult him on grammatical and language issues.


>And for good reason, he doesn't seem to be able to properly draw them.

>I'm not even sure how to interpret this sentence. That might have something to do with the comma splice, though! Also, no imaginable interpretation of this sentence would make it important.


Again, you take the issue of the artist avoiding a body part due to his lack of talent with it and turn it into an argument about his use of Commas.

I really don't care about the way he draws things, I'm not an artist in the damn slightest, but this isn't the way to win an argument.

You guys are totally ruining this Saber thread.

>>2444032
I object to your capitalization of "comma" because it makes me feel superior. I also take umbrage at the absence of grammatical errors in your sentences, as this absence prevents me from stroking my ego by pointing them out.

>>2444062
I question your sexuality, I also wish to suggest that you are in fact of a lower intelligence than is considered average in the United States, which I shall assume is your country of residence.


I also intend to sage this thread, as I hate it.

>>2444066
It appears that I have forgotten my sage in this post, rather than deleting it and reposting it with sage in place, I shall post again as though under the delusion that sage does something other than prevent my post from bumping a thread.


Also I am eating a cookie.

>>2444066

>I also intend to sage this thread, as I hate it.

You have failed in fulfilling your intentions.

>>2444068

Holy shit. Nice.

>>2444057
>You ignore his comment about the point of view the artist in question uses frequently, and again insult him on grammatical and language issues.
We are (were?) arguing about whether or not the art is good. He stated that "point" has nothing to do with whether or not the art is good. Why would I bother arguing against something which isn't relevant to the argument?

I never stated that the artist is creative. I never implied that the artist is creative. The argument was never about whether or not the artist is creative. The guy I was arguing about randomly said "the artist is not creative" and I ignored this because *that has nothing to do with it*.

Drilled deeply enough into your head?

>you take the issue of the artist avoiding a body part
Not an issue. Mona Lisa is not a shitty painting just because it doesn't show <insert object here>, is it? Which parts of the body are shown is irrelevant to the quality of the work.

>due to his lack of talent with it
I had already thoroughly refuted his claim that the artist lacked talent with the body part in question. What more do you want from me?

Oh, that's right, you want me to "lose" or some shit. I'm afraid that won't be happening until you actually establish something contrary to my claims.

>>2444101
>>2444094
>>2444068

I love alternative art.

>>2444062
Say three people are sent to measure the same room. Now, two of these people correctly measure the dimensions of the room. One of these two people doesn't say anything. The other one laughs at the third guy, points out his mistake, calls him an idiot...

Does the latter of the two correct individuals miraculously become incorrect just because he's a jerk?

>>2444100
Avoiding body parts and hiding them, and not drawing them that well in the few occasion they are not, indicates something.

>>2444100
Following the chain of posts (assuming same person), the argument would have started with -
>>2443759
>if you honestly think he's good at drawing you need to fucking kill yourself.

The fact that all of his points are against the artist back this up. It seems YOU'RE the one arguing something which isn't relevant

>>2444118
1) OH HOLY SHIT WHAT WE WERE ARGUING ABOUT WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE ARGUING ABOUT OH GOD SORRY MY MISTAKE

2) The argument actually started with my post at >>2443738.

>>2444126
>>2444118

I don't care where the argument started. I would like it to end.

>>2444117
>not drawing them that well
Hm...

>I had already thoroughly refuted his claim that the artist lacked talent with the body part in question.

Can you fucking read? Can you fucking read, punk? I don't think you can fucking read. You want to run that by me again? Oh, what, you can't fucking read? Seriously? This guy can't fucking read!

>>2444130

>you missed a comma
what the fuck are you guys doing
get down from there
do not do that

>>2444134

>>2444130
It would end if you(r buddies here) would stop implying that the OP image is shit.

If you're going to keep arguing, at least post Saber while you're at it.

>>2444138

STOP SAYING WORDS

>>2444141
But I don't have any Saber art which isn't already in the thread!

Agrias was here. Saber is a faggot.

YOU ARE ALL COCKSUCKERS, STOP ARGUING

>>2444144

Then lurk more you fucking failure.

>>2444146
Hell yeah motherfucker

the only saber i care about

I know I have an "Are You My Master" image with Agrias instead of Saber somewhere in this mess I call my 4chan folder.

>>2444146
We really should translate these.

>>2444149
Nah, the problem is that I almost never save images.

Fucking somewhere in here.

Goddamn where the fucking fuck is it.

>>2444148
I'm all for DFC but this is taking it too far.

I swear to God if I actually named it instead of leaving it as a number I'm going to kill myself.

Well I mean I probably won't kill myself, I'll just be really frustrated for a few minutes.

>>2444169
What are you looking for?

Hell yeah motherfucker.

Anyway I still fucking love alternative art.

Posting Saber in a Saber thread.

Here is your delicious flat chest.

They used to love me.

*hic*

Now it's all about that magical girlfriend slut.

Bleargh. Blech.

Just because she sucks like a Taiwanese whore.

Ooh look at me I can make magical sparklies with my sword.

Bish I been doin that for years. You don't even know.

Hey what's the fucking deal, /jp/? I know I'm not the only one with Saber on my hard drive.

Geez I shouldn't even be doing this I'm a total Rinfag.

>>2444201
If you had more plot importance in your own game like you deserved, instead of your only memorable words being 'Steady', Bury' and 'Sword', things would be different.

>>2444208

WELL SORRY, PRINCESS

LOOK WHORE I CAN TAKE MY CLOTHES OFF TOO SEE

GO ON FAP YOU BUNCH OF NEETS

>>2444226
I can't fap unless you wear a chocobo outfit.

Completely offtopic, but did anyone else cry at the end of the Fate route? I was heavu hearted, then read how it was different in the PS2 version, and baaaawwed,

Plaque is the enemy.

>>2444232
Bowling with Saber? Fuck yes!

>>2444264
I never knew Saber was a stegosaurus fan!

>>2444248
How different is it? I have the PS2 version but haven't bothered reading it because I thought it was the same except with replaced H-scenes

>>2444273
http://nrvnqsr.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=walk&action=display&thread=3342&page=1

>>2444273
Some post-Fate extra ending sequence was added in which Shirou and Saber meet again in the afterlife/Avalon.

If anyone was wondering/cares, I'm about 40% through Last Episode. Might be done by May.

And why am I the only one still posting?

>>2444317
what are you working on?

>>2444317
Cause I'm too busy replaying Baldur's Gate.

Because I'm on my cellphone

>>2444326
PC Last Episode.

>>2444317

I had to, uh, take care of something.

>>2444148
Doesn't get much flatter than that.

Obligatory

>>2444434
I love bikes.

>>2444450

>>2444248
Heavily.

Gentlemen, I like Saber.

Gentlemen, I like Saber.

Gentlemen, I love Saber.

I like the original Saber. I like Saber Alter. I like aggressive Saber Lily. I like Saber Lion.

I like her when she fights. I like her when she eats. I like her when she speaks. I like her when she complains . I like her when she sleeps.

Serious Saber. Shy Saber. Warrior Saber. Angry Saber. Hungry Saber. Corrupted Saber. Gao Saber. Happy Saber. Girly Saber.

I love every aspect of Saber that takes place on this earth.

>>2445108

>>2444317

Waku, you have made my evening. I will cry tears of pure happy when i get that patch.

anyone got the sprite rips?