/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>sentence cards
they are too powerful. if I had used them some years back i would know 10 languages by know

https://twitter.com/skireemm/status/1274098974631374849
matt btfo!!!!!!

more people should watch yuru yuri

I figured yuru yuri would be shit but I watched it anyway. Turns out it's really shit.

>>24341068
read it as well

*sigh* looks like i'm gonna have to stomp moe's ass in again

more people should get a life

>>24341207
Why?

not enough images in this thread

https://streamable.com/0o3vy6

>>24341040
lol this kid is graduating hs next year and then going to move in with his japanese gfs family and get married to her what a young buck
https://youtu.be/0bBhR4KPbcc

you guys think jamal will come out with a new blogpost soon or is it more of a once in a blue moon type thing you think

https://streamable.com/cusshk

>>24341447
bro go to fucking sleep you've got a big day ahead of you tomorrow watching trash.

>>24341010
when do you stop making sentence cards

matt's video on sentence and animecards convinced me. i'm gonna incorporate sentence cards for another ~5k cards.

in matts 2nd last q&a he talks about how he still finds 10+ new words every 50 pages when he reads books

>>24341638
ok

actually he said every 3 hours or so of reading, be he gave the number 50 pages which suggests he thinks he reads about 50 pages in 30 hours and sees 10+ new words

>>24341692
sorry i mean in 3 hours my mistake

>>24341594
when you can open a normal book and read it with some pain but not too much pain

>>24341290
all that pain for nothing

lol

>>24341812
what if the 'pain' is only for individual vocabulary words and not grammar or anything
why would you need to keep doing sentence cards when your problem isn't entire sentences anymore

>>24341290
love this clip me

>>24341947
you don't, you're free to do what you want. we live in a free society

>>24342002
was just wondering if there was any logic behind it guess not

>>24341947
the point of sentence cards is so you learn words with context so you understand the nuances of the word and how it should be used that doesn't have anything to do with grammar maybe watch a few Matt videos before asking beginner questions

>>24342054
what do you mean? you created some strawman and wanted me to defend it for you? what the fuck is that?

>>24342100
where is the strawman

>>24342108
>why would you need to keep doing sentence cards when your problem isn't entire sentences anymore
when did I say that you should do this?

>>24342119
just ignore these beginners who haven't paid their dues in the MIA YouTube channel you shouldn't be posting here until you've heard all of Matt's exposition on sentence cards

>>24342119
you said
>when you can open a normal book and read it with some pain but not too much pain
is when you should stop sentence cards but you can have 20 unknown words on one page with no grammar problems

>>24342145
yea so you should still do sentence cards in that case because they're the best kind of card for learning vocab properly too and if you watched Matt's videos you'd know this. that scenario is very unlikely anyway grammar and vocab understanding typically progress together

>>24342145
pain is a subjective experience. I don't get it, why are you talking like if you start it's some kind of obligation that you have. You use the thing if you feel that it helps you, what the fuck? It's just a method to help you

I don't understand you guys's way of thinking about things.

>>24342174
>that scenario is very unlikely anyway
no it isnt at all everyone whos gotten to intermediate or higher knows that vocab is a several times more massive endeavor than grammar

>>24342196
then use vocab cards if you want or just read a lot... I don't understand what's the problem

trying to talk about language learning shit without having watched Matt's explanations is like someone who studied physics in 1620 trying to explain to people who've studied under Newton how gravity works the game has changed

>>24342193
no big deal man

>>24342196
but your acquisition of grammar is not perfect at that point and you're probably on mt stupid if you believe that to be true lol if you have perfect understanding of grammar there's very few situations you're going to come across that many new words at once if any

>>24342249
doesnt have to be perfect but it can still be very good while you still have 10 to 20 words on a light novel page

>>24342223
Maybe if Newton had come to absolutely despise everything about physics in the process of learning it.

While almost all of Matt's advice is ultimately correct, he managed to destroy his love of so much that was Japanese in the process. Don't let that be you.

>>24342258
this is a red herring anyway because sentence cards aren't for reinforcing grammar they're for learning new words so that you know how they're used in a sentence with is only related to grammar in a specific sense of which particle they use and that's something you have to learn regardless of your general grasp of grammar

if you go from nothing to only 10 unknown words on a page then sentence cards did their job. The worst part of language learning is getting to that stage

>>24342274
that wasn't due to sentence cards. that was that "all japanese all the time" part

sentence cards come from these dudes:
http://www.antimoon.com/how/usingsm-makeitems-sentence.htm

>>24342274
also
http://www.antimoon.com/how/usingsm-makeitems.htm

oops, the first link was the correct one

>>24341308
sounds like he's gonna get milked dry!

i wanna read this and cant find it anywhere. am i blind?

just started reading, and im baffled by this sentence

眼帯に隠されていた瞳に血の梵字が浮き上がる

pupil/eye (with) blood of BUDDHASHIT that will awaken was hidden by eyepatch??????????

do i have the general meaning right?

>>24343006
stfu dumb imageposter

Wotd 梵字

莔

>>24343006
more like "blood-etched sanskrit chants coagulate onto the eye hidden beneath the eyepatch", with some artistic effect added to the tl (still sounds like shit tho lol)

>>24343006
>眼帯に隠されていた瞳に
>血の梵字が浮き上がる

>>24343363
*when tl'ed to eng literally that is

>>24343363
>>24343595
thanks

Do I have the correct grammar? I want to say "playing with him."
彼と遊んでいる

In the manga Bloom into You (やがて君になる) there is a scene where the main character is angry at her senpai and yells out, 先輩のバカ!

From context I can clearly tell this means, "Stupid senpai!" or "Senpai is stupid!". However I can't understand why you'd use the の particle here. I understand の is a possessive particle, so 先輩の車 is "Senpai's car", or "car of senpai". But "Senpai's stupid (stupid belonging to senpai)" or "Stupid of senpai" makes no logical sense to me.

バカ is a な-adjective, so wouldn't you say, "バカな先輩" to say, "Stupid senpai"? Or even, "先輩がバか(だ)? (Senpai is stupid). The only similar thing I've learned so far is the construction for a sentence like, "this is my wife, Keiko", 家内の恵子です、in this case the way I've justified it in my head is, "This is Keiko, belonging to the thing called wife". But even this wouldn't make sense, if this were the construction being used, it would be, バカの先輩, "senpai belonging to the category called stupid".

>>24343595
when will i be able to intuitively break down sentences like this

>>24343718

>>24343787
10000 hours

>>24343718
i'm so mad

>>24343718
Y modifies X

We did it Reddit!

best 3 foods in here? GO GO GO

>>24344095
good
but don't use discord – it's proprietary software and thus malware
don't use reddit too. it's full of idiots and dekinais

>>24344130
I don't know how these foods are called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOp-DqJyEc

>>24343787
thats just a relative clause man, watch some cure dully.

>>24344130
Steak
Bubble tea
Pizza
In that order

sometimes this language feels as if someone sat down and actually designed some parts of it

>>24343718
p sure this is reddit pasta but for the lurkers who dont know its called apposition, look it up

>>24345382
>look it up
why when its obvious what it means even without knowing that

this is what i get for being a lazy sack of shit for the past 12 days, guess if i split it into 2 sessions today it wont be too bad

Why does that guy in the OP say だけど when it says だけで?

>>24346097
you dont know about anime godfather?

every game should have this feature

>せーの
i swear to god, if I hear this one more time, I'll..

空振

>>24344215
なまえ

かいたー

>>24345888
just delete them

>>24346159
yeah that pisses me off to. similarly to how i get irrationally agree when a preachy savior complex shounen mc says

>でも。。それでも

>>24346156
yes

>>24346195
delete urself from the earth cumbrain

>>24346230
you'll never make it drone

>>24346261
well we're in the same boat then arent we retard

wish ciaran would share his discord server haard quiz mining deck

Can someone help me find a reference for what happens when two actions are strung together with the -te form and the last one ends in -naide?
All I could find was this, but what I'm curious about would be something like:
>おしえて意地悪しないでよ
Would that be something like
>Don't tell me and stop being mean.
or
>Tell me and stop being mean.

feel it out broski

>bro what's the point in learning japanese all the good stuff gets translated nowadays

>>24346203
what the matter kiddo? can't believe in the beast of possibility anymore?
me too :(

>>24346671
wtf

>>24346653
My gut says it would be "tell me and stop being mean" and to state "don't tell me and stop being mean" would be おしえないで意地悪しないで
I am pretty sure I'm wrong because somebody told me that I am wrong.

>>24341370
i have no plans for another blog but for a small contribution to my patreon i could be encouraged to write more

>>24346671
ewwww

>>24346636
i thought te form just expressed a sequence of verbs where the last verbs tense defines the tense of all the verbs. since ないで means to do something else without doing the ないで verb, so i'd imagine it just means something like
>do [something else] without telling me and then being mean afterwards

>>24346636
そんなバカな質問しないでよ

..jesus whenever i hear the words "te form" or "kun/on yomi reading" or any of these english inventions to understand japanese ムカつく af

>>24346817
may as well. it's not like they aren't talking about the same thing

>>24346817
くってねてふとってぐぬう

>>24346776
ありがとう先輩
＞ここに来てバカな質問しないでよ
勉強になりました

>>24346817
how is 訓読み and 音読み an english invention lol

>>24347032
i think he's mad they wrote it in ローマ字 which is obviously autistic as fuck but it's 4chan so 仕方ない

So I just finished Kana. What do I learn next? I am trying to learn kanji now but I don't know the difference between kunyomi and onyomi as well as grammar characters like particles and state of being. Should I focus on learning the grammar first?

>>24347112
R
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>>24347112
read tae kim grammar guide then read an easy VN or a LN with a browser plugin like yomichan or rikaichamp (and textractor+clipboard inserter on a .txt file sent to browser in case its a VN) with Imabi or DoJG as reference for grammar, you will pick up some common kanji on the way, then when you come back from finishing your first few VN's or LN's you can try RTK/Kodansha or drilling JLPT kanji's

>try RTK/Kodansha
lol
https://streamable.com/278k0v

>>24347211
since it's always shilled i just now decided to check out djog and the first thing i see it is saying that 方がいい is a way to make a suggestion without explaining that it's a literal comparison, so i have to question just how good this really is for beginners.

>>24347211
Thanks anon. But isn't it too soon for me to read a VN without learning a few hundreds vocab first, even with plugins?

>>24347237
>3 and a half months
>500 kanji into rtk
yeah you expect him to be able to read? it's not magic u know?

whats every1s take on this guy

https://streamable.com/s5f1vh

monozashi lol

>>24347299
https://streamable.com/60hegf

this is not ta its rICe FIeld

Hello. I'm a long time lurker, and I've finally decided to write something in a long time! I've been studying Japanese in a university for three years now, and everything seemed well up to couple of months ago, when the self-isolation started.I've passed N5 and N4, with going for N3 last winter, but I didn't pass that one. It didn't really affect me then, however, and I kept on studying. But now, with the year wrapping up, I find it more and more difficult to talk to my language exchange partner - the vocabulary seemed to have taken the biggest blow out of them all, and my weakest point has always been listening.So, I raise a question: What do I do with all of this scrambled N3-ish knowledge? What resources can I use to recover the lost vocabulary, as well as to get my listening on par? (Note: I don't have Netflix and I am aware of the Anki decks and Animelon, but the latter's player seems to work quite poorly) I'd highly welcome any other sort of advice (especially on motivation) you seem fit. Thank you!

>>24347363
tldr

whats every1s take on this guy

https://streamable.com/7lu42

whats every1s take on this guy
https://streamable.com/l2c2ay

>>24347266
your first time reading will always be hard even if you did core 6k and read every single grammar point there is, just jump into it and get your feet wet, it will be very hard at first, just don't burn out, heres some recommendations
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KnyyDt7jimEz-dgeMSKymRaT2r3QKBPm9AzqZ6oUWAs/pub

>>24347307
>>24347338
single digit iq
>>24347403
?
>>24347438
double digit iq

has qm reacted to geting btfo by matt yet?

>>24347438
he's unironically the most based person in this whole dumpster of a "community"

>>24347438
lmfao

thIs Is the ULtimate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUUQhLHBR2o#t=44

>>24347112
id stick with hiragana and just learn vocab/grammar, at least if you want to be good at real japanese first, reading kanji is really a secondary aspect of the language and only go that route first if you have a lot of stuff you want to read. but kanji is like a year of life so imagine how far youd get if you didnt want to do it, thats the way a child does it

gonna come clean i am anime godfather
its all satire to false flag M*tt
im also in the discord
Ok fuck u bye

>>24347618
that doesnt make u seem any better tho cuz like thats a lot of devotion to being a mattard

>>24347634
i said nigger

why do people reply to those that are literally too lazy to even read the guide? god i fucking hate you people

>>24347640
https://streamable.com/nk7ii

>>24347654
because people like to connect bro

>>24347662
>https://streamable.com/nk7ii
thats the one dont wear it out

>>24347654
it sends them out of here in a reply's notice, since this thread is just e-celeb and meta shit

>>24347654
i dont unless its to berate them

靴とパンツを履いてなくて、ここに入って
>Without wearing shoes or undies, come on in!
靴とパンツを履いて、ここに入ってないで
>Don't wear shoes or undies and don't come in!
щ(ﾟДﾟщ)

>>24346188
おなかすいた

すふれたべたい

>そんな のんきに 構えてると負けるわよ
it's interesting that they use 構えてる in this because it seems to have a nuance of getting ready whereas here it seems to be saying that they're keeping a relaxed tone (which will make them lose). do you guys think the author was trying to go for contrast or something?

imagine youre starting off this huge endeavor and everybody is shitting on you here. the least you can do is show them a little もてなし, by the way 2 years here and ive never read the guide lol

>>24347654
they're probably just as retarded

>>24347769
you should at least be able to rtfm
people who get coddled are braindead

>>24347788
we were all 'braindead' once, and im more of a video person, maybe if the guide was in japanese but seems kind of silly to study something in english to learn japanese

>>24347736
stop writing your crippled shit no1 gives a fuck

why pause anime

>>24347801
i mean in general
as retarded as people who go on forums saying they don't know what to do with their new linux machine then getting all surprised that there's a fucking manual
put in the least amount of effort ffs

>>24347237
do we have to go through this again? this is not how you use RTK...

>>24347804
I'm trying to understand!

>>24347828
i agree with the sentiment

>>24347835
how are you going to understand something by writing your own incorrect japanese and then translating it lmfao

just stfu and read for 10k hours

>>24347834
do we have to go through this again?why waste so much time not acquiring japanese?

>>24347866
If y'all gon post the supreme dekinai to say rtk is bad then I just gon post the supreme dekiru as a counter-argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgRte6oSoF8

https://streamable.com/76vhm1

fuck matto and fuck mattofags

let me guess another video where matt shills for netflix and sucks big gay cock?

>>24347896
prove him wrong if you can tho

>>24347908
don't care about matto

>>24347846
h-h-how would you write the correct Jaapnese?

rent free

>>24347915
you care enough to post about him?

>>24347916
go and read for 10k hours and worry about w/e the fuck youre concerned about when you come across it in a real sentence and not some fantasy idea you've invented

>>24347926
care enough to not want to have a matto video posted every 15 posts

>>24347960
160 posts 1 matto video ur math is worse than ur japanese

>>24347881
i thought stuff like this 15-20 years ago too

but then u get good enough to understand why thats the case and u can start enjoying the 1% of thnigs that are good and hilarious again haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ROivbLS5PU

>>24345656
what a retarded thing to say hurr durr i already know it so everyone else already knows it wow kys

>>24347978
mattofags too retarded to get hyperbole lol

what do you guys think of dogen

hes way worse at japanese than hed like u to think

however dogen is definitely king of the quad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFo0H_STV5w

>>24347980
pretty funny nice link jamal

don't keep track of e-celebs and don't watch their videos so dno

matto should learn chinese

>>24348019
his comedy sucks but it seems like he knows japanese

japanese be like
a word means: "the first day I farted"
and then another means 30 different things

>>24348076
this is the same in literally any language

dogen's probably a pauser

i pause dogen's videos to understand his jokes

>>24348089
dogen pauses and rewinds 5x to make sure the voice actor used the right pitch for the sentence

matto should learn georgian and document his journey mia-ing his way into become the king of sakartveloboos.

>>24348019
what they said >>24348072 but it also might be worth considering that he shows signs of being a closeted alt right member living as a parasite in japan

>>24348110
malodorous whites, not even once

>>24348102
armenia > georgia

>>24348110
stfu schizo

>>24345656
how the hell is that obvious if you haven't looked it up or read for a billion hours

sometimes I rewind shit in my own language, why would it be bad in one that I'm still learning?

>>24348153
>rewind shit in my own language
you're retarded, no biggie

>>24348153
not this shit again

Jamal claims to know Japanese. I don't know japanese yet but I speak 2 languages, intermediate in 2 and learning Japanese now. So I probably know more about language learning than him.

>>24348181
link some of your previous posts so we can see your expert language learning advice

>>24348181
i mean if u wanna make that claim i have no problem w. it

idc about "language learning"

ok lets get this thread back on track aka back in the dumpster where it belongs

if u arent pausing ur shit u cannot learn japanese

>>24348159
you've never wanted to rewatch a scene? the shit you watch isn't good enough, I guess

>>24348181
if the other language you know is a germanic/romance language, its equal to knowing only 1.5 languages.

>>24348223
no i'm just not retarded
try it sometime

>>24346671
shit like this doesn't really matter.

imagine knowing 1 language and pretending to know 1 other like jamal does lmao fucking languagelets

>>24348242
what the fuck does that have to do with intelligence?

shakespeare: to pause or not to pause that is the question

>>24348258
you don't know because you're not intelligent bro, we covered this already
keep up

>>24348243
yeah it's really insane to care about like 1 or 2 meme lines when it doesnt actually affect the plot

>>24348242
*sometimes
btw

>>24348255
rewrite that in japanese tough guy

si sabes italiano o frances seguramente puedes adivinar lo que quiere decir esto

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1jyoT2-mS4VxUrZiKZo7Qdb-3O8j_cRh

cant believe nuke has been streaming since 2016 wtf...

>>24348270
you don't even know english

believe this *shoves foot up ass*

>>24348290
it was a joke, bro

honestly its hard to be shocked at nuke chan anymore

after rice field and monozashi im just desensitized

tfw nuke was already pausing shit before i started watching anime at all

>>24348302
uh huh

>>24348276
certo che si, italiano e spagnola e la stessa lingua piu o meno

how much japanese has nuke actually read/listened to do you reckon

>>24348263
but i am though

pissin on pausers

like imagine if i made a nuke chan garbage day video after goin thru years of nuke chan vids and creating like a 90 minute reel of nuke chans best set to some wagner

>>24348334
you think so but you're not as evidenced by your posts and i am clearly your intellectual superior
keep up man, i feel like i'm picking on the retarded kid at school

i might even install real video editing software to make it

>>24347654
because most of us aren't as autistic as you and actually like helping, chalking up every obvious question to laziness is retardedly shortsighted

>>24348337
get paused on

>>24348365
i never am deluded enough to think feeding the birds is "helping" them

>>24346188
isn't that a cheesecake though

ciaran paused all the time while watching dbz so he could use the bathroom so anti-pausers are wrong

>>24348365
>chalking up every obvious question to laziness is retardedly shortsighted
stfu retarded monkey if u say "i did kana what now" it means you are a lazy sack of shit that didnt even look at the guide there are no if ands or buts about it.

>>24348365
so retards should pour in asking what core deck to do 24/7?fuck off retard

>>24348323
real time or content time?

>>24348365
if we aren't asshole to newfags then this place will get over run

>>24347458
What's the hook codes for?

>>24348403
content time

>>24348314
My English is on a level so high that sometimes people mistake my shitposts for quotations from James Joyce. Many such cases.

>>24348273
nice try

膣 doesnt sound arousing at all for me, since i associate it with the medicine rather than with two people doing recreational sex

>>24348397
why are you here?
this is the j*mal and friends general

>>24348365
Eat a dick that's how retards pour in

>>24348353
you repeat the same thing over and over. that is not the sign of an intelligent man.

>>24348415
ur english is so good that ppl mistake it as a cheap imitation of some old dead dudes ? nice

>>24348436
you wouldn't know

>>24348376
thats because ur turning it into a weird metaphors about birds in your head, your fellow humans need help time to time and cooperation and education are the foundational

this thread needs a reset

>>24348413
2k hours maybe?

>>24348435
ok now this is based

ignore the idiots and they'll leave

>>24348443
>your fellow humans need help time to time and cooperation and education are the foundational
i see you haven't been on any computer forums
there's a reason rtfm is a thing

>>24348443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqrW5EZMIM4#t=13

マンコ

>>24348473
i remember watching this live what a show

>>24348465
just give up. jamal is never going to leave this place

>>24348383
スフレね

チーズケーキでもつうじるよ

あたしはスフレをつかう

>>24348443
my fellow "humans" should consider putting effort into shit before begging to be spoonfed

>>24348443
No one thinks like that. Honestly I've wished for years someone would just delete the guide or at least stop linking it in the thread. It's the biggest source for brain damaged newfags learning the language and shitting up the thread.

>>24348435
is his goal to have the posture and attire of an old man

>>24348485
that shit was actually all real and somewhat unscripted too (when he gets out of the ambulance and gets choke slammed thru the top of the cage he legit gets knocked out) dude broke bones and lost teeth

mick foleys a crazy ass dude and i respect him

>>24348470
never needed to go to a forum to use a pc, only needed to glance at a few instruction booklets, maybe im jaded in some ways by a life of high iq

>>24348514
ｗｈo knows

>>24348519
yea mick foley was insane i remember he used to take insane beatings and id be like wtf man hes had enough

>>24348523
Be honest youre a zommer that doesnt even know Japanese and youre trying to """""help""""" others to make up for the fact that you havent made progress

>>24348523
yeah and you're probably not a power user

man i wanna go to the fuckin mall but covids gettin crazy i wish i was in japan

Don't worry man the who said just dont touch your face its not airborne also please dont look at east asia

crossed japan off the list of jamal living areas

>>24348541
yah its nuts cuz hte kids watchin it have no idea hes actually gettin fucked up out there

its legit crazy carny shit which on the 1 hand i dont want ppl to get hurt but he made his own choices and put on a show ppl never forgot so its mad respect to him and guys like terry funk

why are there so many blasted asses over someone answering a question
just ignore it

>>24348547
gonna go mallin without you

>>24348542
nice detective work

fuckin stuck in anki review hell

>>24348584
cause its the same question 5 times per day also fuck you

>>24348584
retard 1 asks stupid question
retard 2 walks in and sees retard 1 asking stupid question
retard 2 makes his assumptions about the environment and asks stupid question
ad infinitum

jamal, post seriously for once in your life: you made up the eng sub """"""method""""" to cripple gullible beginners, right? it's evil, man.

has jamal ever proven his self proclaimed fluency?

>>24348578
when i was a kid i thought it was all real for a couple of years so they were all gettin fucked up to me lol

>>24348606
>>24348608
you trisomy fags do realize youre hilariously easy to troll that way cause youre so sensitive

>>24348617
i dont think hes proclaimed that and dont he'll ever be able to at this rate

>>24348611
it's genius
wish i could meet anyone who's followed his advice to laugh at them

>>24348617
he made a rap

>>24348630
dont give a fuck if i get "trolled" lol

>>24348630
ok

im sure the eng subbed shit works if you actually are trying to focus on the spoken language while doing it the haters just look at it from the perspective of their braindead years watching anime without ever really even paying attention to the noises coming out their speakers

guys i just finish the kana should i learn radicals before learning all the kanji

>>24348635
he said in a vocaroo something to the effect "...me, ciaran and others who know japanese" so unless knowing japanese doesnt entail fluency he's claimed it.

Which anime is the best for learning japanese?

>>24348670
detective conan

>why are people asking japanese questions in a japanese language learning thread
the absolute state

also people who think eng subbed anime wouldnt help them just think that translations are all wrong in the first place (probably why they're mad and trying to learn japanese so their precious cartoons arent ruined) but realistically the subtitles capture the actual intent behind the spoken message much better than some retard with a japanese-english dictionary and a copy of tyler kim ever could (which is why they think the subs are wrong in the first place)

Haha post more jamal

>>24348670
full metal alchemist
someone post the spreadsheet

>>24348653
what do you mean finish the kana?
50 motherfucking times show us your notebook

>>24348670
its going to take hundreds of shows so dont worry about that too much, but do try to stick to the same genre as much as you can so you hit the same words

>>24348694
>people who think eng subbed anime wouldnt help them just think that translations are all wrong
that doesnt have much to do with it, it mostly just because its a fucking retarded way to sink anything new into your head. if you are reading english youre not acquiring japanese, simple

>>24348727
then you shouldnt use tae-kim or a japanese-english dictionary cause guess what it's in english

>>24348688
The best part is they werent mad at any particular question they instead were schizo posting about a hypothetical situation

>>24348731
i only do monolingual dictionaries and i only read the japanese in tae kim

>you should learn japanese by only using japanese
this is the best take

>>24348742
so you just started off being able to read japanese with 0 reference to your own native language? that's obviously not true

>>24348750
>when the Japanese 101 book is 100% written in japanese

>schizo
post disregarded

>>24348758
how do babies learn nip
chekkumeito

the jamal """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""method"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" would only make sense if he advocated to watch an episode with eng subs and then with jp subs

when you realize any 5yo japanese kid is more fluent than any of you the subs argument just doesn't hold up

>>24348758
i approach it the way a child does with lots of curiosity and i only use english if absolutely necessary, or i just skip it for now, you dont want your go to move to be english for japanese things

>>24348781
learning a second language is obviously not comparable to learning a native language you're just being disingenuous. what did you start reading with originally if it was 100% in japanese?

>>24348626
idk i mean yah maybe but as a kid u dont really understand what it means to be really gettin fucked up ur just like WOW TV lol

>>24348694
ive already tried to convey all these things and more but the dictionarytards wont have any of it

people always shittalk jamal saying he took decades to learn japanese then claim they bypass english completely when learning so they can do it like a baby does. wonder how long that takes.

>>24348801
che
kku
mei
to

in the end matto is the only one who makes any sense

matto just makes u believe he makes sense

yeah that's exactly what making sense means

does 20代 mean 20s like someone is in there 20s

>>24348819
how is it a checkmate? i asked whether you used any english when you started to learn i never claimed it's impossible i said it's not true that you did and you haven't provided any suggestion otherwise lol

>>24348849
yea

>>24348849
cant you just google this and figure it out within 5 seconds of looking at the context of the results

>>24348825
different strokes for different folks really, i like matt but remember even matto himself has walked back on a lot of stuff like rtk and reading from the start, so he doesnt always agree with himself let alone that style fitting everybody the same

>>24348857
>>24348797

also if any of u played umineko u should know that as soon as u sit down at the chessboard across from me ur already checkm8d lol

>>24348879
so what kind of stuff do you read then?

>>24348670

Will status/progress reports cause an autistic meltdown or are those fine

>>24348884
idk you played chess bro would love to battle you sometime

>>24348894
bad chart

>>24348884
*flips the chessboard around*

>>24348894
digimon too hard for me im watching doraemon will i make it?

>>24348896
Yes it will cause the thread to implode. Do it anyways

everything causes an autistic meltdown

>>24348906
oh no i dont play real chess just umineko chess

i should get into real chess cuz like its been good for a really long time and has never needed a buff/nerf patch lol

>>24348931
ah ok

>>24348940
crazy when u think about it imagine if chess was first made by blizzard what would they have done to it

>>24348875
we all do this. we forget what being a beginner was like. We try to look for what we think was the reason that we learned best. We try to systematize it but sometimes the "messy" part was the reason for our learning

>>24348940
i thought about trying shogi but that shits pretty complicated, but yea western chess is the shit

>>24348940
could use a black buff to be honest

>>24348922
>>24348925
I just started learning and finished hiragana in four days. And by finished i mean i get all the flashcards consistently right. Ill start katagana tomorrow cause today is fathers day so ill just review

>>24348949
bilzzard couldnt make a balanced game to save their life tho

>>24348959
nail on the head, if you sterilize it you kill it, or if you dissect it too much you turn it into something completely different

i feel like chess is too one dimensional
mahjong is where its at

i'm a big believer in "messing with the language". this "do this passive thing and u will learn" doesn't sit well with me.

>>24348887
still no response since this guy cant tell me what he actually does i can only assume this guy is just lying about "learning like a baby without any english" to avoid facing the facts that eng subs are superior to his method

>>24348975
thats part of the plan, they take turns overpowering things instead of trying to really find a balance, largely because at different skill levels everything we need a totally different balance

>>24349011
meanwhile chess 1.0 was perfection

>>24348990
yea passive doesnt really do anything, you have to be engaged but also dont engage with the wrong things

>gaymes

my ponkotu dopamines absolutely shot to shit again

games r how u stay yung

https://youtu.be/_uFLnX4jCd0

sasuga かくしごと

it's only 3 months after finishing rtk and im already forgetting most of them lol

the ones i am remembering i just associate them with a vocab no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VnYnWNT4Dk
hey jamal how well can you follow ひろゆき?
im about 60% myself but depends on the topic

>>24349132
Do you study everyday?

herro guys, how hard is it to understand music and its written lyrics compared to anime and tv shows?
I love all kinds of japanese music but especially all the 東方 related music. Are there any potential learning resources in music?

>>24349148
i understand what hes saying right now but idk what brought this on

>>24349132
>finished rtk
youre supposed to keep reping them for like a year or until theyre all super matured

>>24349148
i know enough to know hes a bullshitter cause hes claiming he doesnt need anyone to accept him but hes attention whoring daily on youtube

The best manga/anime of all time was created by a woman

I never understood the criticism of if you do RTK you can't study actual japanese, I studied RTK and vocab at the same time. Maybe it's cuz I'm a neet with too much time on my hands

>>24349132
keep reviewing you absolute retard

i understand that this dudes actually intolerable and can suck my dick

>>24349204
yea its fucked up that kimetu no yaiba was written by a mansan

Im glad yall are still making threads, love you djt

>>24349221
>this dude
hes the inventor and ceo of 4chan

>>24349242

..戦士として最後まで責任を果たすことだ

>>24349192
sounds like me

>>24349192
if you like a song, then just get your hands on the lyrics, memorize it like youre getting ready to do karaoke

>>24349194
i love how he drinks different beer every time

>>24349192
it's harder because the way the lines are structured is obviously different from how people talk casually. you also have no visual context unlike with anime. it's fun though i like listening to music while looking at the lyrics and ill make cards from it here and there too. only issue with that is that i always listen to the entire card so it takes longer to review and i feel like listening to the rest of the song cause i only mine from bangers.

I'm a little confused with the meaning of these three words: 承認、了承、承る.
After checking some dics and sites on the internet this is what I have:

> 承認 :
To recognize something that has been justified or it's a fact (like "approved" or "checked and confirmed"). It's also usually used by a company or corporation (possible synonyms: 認める、OKです).

>了承:
To be completely convinced about the circumstances of something. I don't understand this one, but I think It could be something like "there is a plan or a schedule being the object of a discussion and finally, It gets approved".

>承る:
To know something only by rumors or "what my friend told me", but it's not a fact neither something i truly understand.

bonus:
> 承知: To understand or comprehend something very very well. Possible synonyms: よくわかる、知る、心得る、理解.

Please, help me.

>>24349270
this scene was unironically incredibly based

>>24349263
Thanks for being friends for last 5 years

>>24349386
read 10k hours

the imageposters are at it again

sometimes whenever i get sick of listening to nip shit i search up music or movies from other countries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPV2kGZ3tNo
and then i realize how fuckin good nip media is in comparison to stuff from other places

anyone watch this? seems cool. no jp subs though which is a bummer

JUst watch it with english subs or watch it raw u fuckin homo

>>24349441
this is better than 99% of the anime music posted here

the only sort of stuff i have a problem with is niprap which is shit because its niggernoise not because its nip

>>24349386

tfw tried watching mononoke hime and got btfo

Haven't been in one of these threads in years. It's hard to believe the thread can have even more retards and be even less productive than it was then, but here we are.

nip music is garbage through and through

>>24349614
nobody cares bro fuck off back to wherever you fucked off to last time

>>24349614
and u still dont know japanese

>>24349632
its tobira guy "baiting" again

fuc miyazaki
fuc murakami
fuc dbz and naruto
FUC pokemon
fuc ironic weebs and fuc tumblrina attention whores who post pictures of streets littered with cherry blossom petals

>>24349632
Have fun continuing to waste your time not learning Japanese ;^)

and last but not least fuck ciaran

>>24349667
have fun wandering into random threads bc your life is so vacuous

>He's not Japanese
>He believes he can learn Japanese

protip: if you get burned out with anki reviews just delete all your sentence cards and make new ones...

>>24349614
Dont worry though the cool kids are policing it

>>24349618
Only after the lost decade

>>24349614
actually the average japanese level in the thread is higher than ever

>>24349731
Maybe if people would police it a bit harder it wouldn't be overrun with retards now.

>>24349762
Doesn't seem that way by looking at this thread, but that might be true since you really need a sample of a few threads to get a good feel of the average level of who hangs here.

protip: its impossible to acquire a language after the age of 5 so do whatever the fuck you wanna do because even after a trillion hours of "comprehensible input" youll still never stop filtering your thoughts through yournative language

>>24348909
you never explain why do you dislike the anime or do you think those anime are not not easy enough

>>24349204
the fact it was written by a woman should make you think about the chances and then reconsider. it's possible, just unlikely. and fmab isn't even the best shounen.

>>24349715
cont: your ability of picking from a wide variety of sentences only increases with time. Don't worry, that word you wanted will come back again and you'll have an easier time re-learning it. Sometimes you'll be surprised that you still know it.
Don't be a fool, the delete button is your friend

I'm trying to emulate a certain style

>>24349794
we filter everything anyways, its called thinking, you should try it

>>24349794
That is false. I started learning English when I was 15 and when I post in English I think in English, so doesn't spread your falsehoods so carelessly. Sometimes I even have some trouble translating between English and my native language.

>>24349794
I don't think that is the case.

Starting from square 1 after multiple misguided attempts at learning over the years. (0% retained though)
Is wanikani ok if you just wanna be able to read articles/interviews/books ? I'm seeing it trashed in the archives in every mention, but the structure of it and mnemonics look simple enough to make it easy to maintain a constant effort and not end up wasting a bunch of time by quitting before being able to read things.
What do you think about it?

>>24349800
i dont think theres anything about the chart that is accurate

whenever matt speaks japanese it's like he is reading from a teleprompter

>>24349881
lmao

>>24349857
*so don't
lol fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t5ILtOpoWk&t=110

>>24349858
its not the case, there are studies that point to 5 years old, and studies that point to 18 years old, but those are just the years people start school and or start working. time is the only factor and all science has shown that, let him be a retard who thinks you cant learn something as simple as a new word

im seriously struggling to endure this shit and its only ep 2

>>24349891
u watching one ep a day my friend? never going to learn japanese that way

half cour a day minimum

Anyone here listen to audiobooks on the Japanese version of the Audible app? If you work somewhere where you can listen to music I would highly recommend it.

There are a lot of light novels on there, and sometimes they get actual seiyuu to do the narration. My favorite that has been releasing every few months is 本好きの下剋上 and they got Iguchi Yuka to do the narration (she does Myne's voice in the anime).

Audiobooks are great if you have a lot of time where you can listen to them, but they can also be good for people who can understand spoken Japanese a lot better than written. Only downside is these are kinda niche so they can be a bit expensive.

>>24349891
if u dont understand the greatness of that anime u are confirmed shit haha

>>24349618
I like soutaiseiriron, try listening to them

>>24349881
he probably rehearses what he wants to say in his head many times so that it comes out perfectly

>>24349905
no fuck off

>>24349869
wanikani's pacing is not good and it takes mnemonics a bit too far. learn the pros and cons of RTK and decide if you want to do that first, and then do a core deck (just do a core deck if you decide against RTK, which most ppl in here don't like). then just start reading.

>>24349762
I dont know about that, the earlier 800 threads on /a/ were good

>>24349906
jamal, you can't understand our pain. we're talking here about enduring something in full japanese. you watch shit with eng subs, it's not the same thing. you shouldn't try to participate in our convo, ok. it's not for you.

>>24349791
Dont be a faggot

>>24349934
but uhh dont do proper RTK that shit is a waste of time, do the MIA RRTK deck if you decide to do it at all

>>24349907
yet another carefully packaged product of mentally retarded nips trying to sound all cutesy while failing miserably?
i'll stick to my classical shit

>>24349890
try to use 仕上げる and 仕切る in a sentence properly
if you can do it, you can acquire japanese.

How do you get the EPWING J-J dictionaries to work with yomichan. Fresh install and they all seem to be broken

>>24349949
the only thing ur gatekeeping here is ur low iq

guys my balls hurt after masturbating
what should i do

>>24349901
no i usually watch 7-10 eps per day i just happened to start this show yesterday at like 3 am

>>24349988
I'm not trying to gatekeep anything. I'm just saying that there is no way you could understand where that dude is coming from when you watch shit with english subtitles and he is probably trying to understand it raw

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/japanese-is-useless-and-a-waste-of-time-stop-learning-it/
this should be in the op somewhere

>>24349794
lol no thats not how it works u eop

There's no way any JSL can understand raw anime any better than they'd understand English-subbed anime

>>24350027
that implies the subs are correct to begin with

>>24350027
who gives a fuck

jamal is allergic to common sense

>>24350022
Rather be an EOP than a filthy JSL weeb who pretends he can understand raw visual novels and anime as well as translations over to their native language

tobira guy going off again too bad he's completely lost it and is making no sense haha

>>24350027
sometimes i watch hardsubbed jidaigeki shit and the subs are way more fuckin confusing cause its hard to actually translate some of that shit

what's with all the copeposting

>>24350058
you do realize that those translations were made by a JSL, right?

kill uppercasers

>>24349601
>imagine being this low-quality loser.
承認された cum-eater drag queen。

>>24350090
garbage retards giving their opinions about things as always

ok time to nipongo.. hope common sense prevails in my absence

>>24350094
https://youtu.be/yzf3fOLkD-Y

>>24350027
reading this post as an ESL is amusing.

>>24349891
i would never start a show that looks like this

call me a "white noiser" but i dont really find it much more enjoyable to watch anime w/ eng subs than raw even as a beginner. jp subs + pausing is the biggest chore but i'll do it for gains if i didnt do any proper reading. most anime isn't really worth understanding all the words in.

>>24350117
learning 2 european languages is nothign like learning japanese you fucking retard. i'll amuse my fist down your stupid fucking throat

>>24349905
>Anyone here listen to audiobooks on the Japanese version of the Audible app?
can i use it outside of japan? been listening to a lot of pirated audiobooks but i'm running out of material