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>>24083402
Yeah, Haworthia is related to Ciconia. It's worth a read.

I just finished reading upto Higurashi Minagoroshi and I have to say that was a wild ride of a chapter. I have bought Matsuribayashi already but I won't be starting until the 7th mod patch is complete.

Now while im waiting for that, I am debating whether to read the console arcs. I heard somewhere that those arcs are written by a different author (unsure if true). Are they worthy of my attention or skip and should I read them after or before Chapter 8?

Small question. Does anyone have either RGD Final season or Ciconia script. Last two before I'm done with what I'm doing. Something like this: https://github.com/Ronove/Project-Night-One/blob/master/Chapter1.script

Wow!

== Erika ==
「私は、
……真実の魔女、古戸ヱリカ……。……真実の魔女とは、……真実に堪える魔女、………です。……私はようやく、
……自分の本当の真実を、……受け入れられそうなんです………。」
"I am..

== Erika ==
...the Witch of Truth, Furudo Erika... ...The Witch of Truth...is the witch...who can withstand the truth. ...Now,

== Erika ==
...I can finally...accept the real truth about myself..."

== Narrator ==
概念否定の毒が全身を駆け巡る。
The toxin of her own concept being denied raced through her

== Narrator ==
……視界がもうぼやけ始めてる。
...Her vision was already starting to blur.

>>24089317
What is the Shkanontrice explanation for this passage? Beatrice's red truth gets Battler out of his logic error, but how does it deny the concept of Erika - if she has nothing to do with it?

>>24088721
You can use the ONScripter Tools from https://web.archive.org/web/20181006182632/http://unclemion.com/onscripter/releases (specifically nscdec) to extract it from nscript.dat or pscript.dat in the game foder

Erikantrice
https://pastebin.com/eDZWPZAX
https://erikce.booru.org

Guys question i watch the film In Bruges and the MC shot skin-head with a gun loaded with blanks and the skin-head become blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVNJvMK8gNA
(sorry but i find it only in this language)
this make me remember Eva shot jessica during ep3
so Eva gun was fake so how she killed battler at the end of episode 3?
SIMPLE THE CULPRIT WAS ALIVE AND SHOT IN THE SAME MOMENT EVA SHOT
>>24089317
when you accept erikantrice this scene make you cry
Erika from a mad character who hated everyone become the character who love more than everyone love so much that belive she was real

>>24089782
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

only now i notice Look the background!!!!
there is george diary, the diary that in many games george Look

in erikantrice George wrote in that diary Kanon's instruction for the crime

So George look the diary and exit at nigth alone then in the next morning a closed room circle happened but george is still alive and dont see nothing

BASED SIU BASED SAKU

>>24087912
Is the Saku translation good? I'm scared of mistranslations more than anything else.

>>24089910
It's okay. A few weirdly translated bits here and there, but not enough to ruin the experience.

>>24089910
You won't be scared ever again if you learn Japanese.

>>24089317
I hated how people treated this part. These passages appeared before she announced her "introduction", yet Shkannontricers twist this part and they think she is denied as the 18th human. It is more plausible Beatrice can "kill" Erika - the 2nd Twilight's victims are Kanon and Erika. They are "close" together and a hint for Battler.

>>24089702
Thank you so much! So far it seems the Ciconia Script doesn't work with NSDEC but I still got RGD for myself!

If there are only 17 humans on Rokkenjima, then either Shannon = Kanon or Kanon = Erika. However, if Shannon = Kanon != Erika, then Erika has simply lost the game. Her existence is not denied in any way. That dialogue remains unexplained.
Moreover, this red truth is stated "as is" - without specifying to which episodes it applies.
With Shkanontrice, there are only 16 people on Rokkenjima in episodes 1-4.

However, I still think Erikantrice raises more questions than it answers.

>>24091542
Weird it worked for me
https://mega.nz/file/6iATUCIY#lAAR-S4LS73u_K45SzP5N1zU3-a-Ggsax3iO5aGHERU

>>24091542
hey I remember that face

>>24091621
>However, I still think Erikantrice raises more questions than it answers.
what questions?
pls tell me so i can improve my work

>>24091663
Why do Shannon and Kanon have to fight each other in the love trial? Why do we never see them together? Why is Kanon Beatrice instead of Yasu/Sayo/Shannon, which makes more sense? Why does he care so much about the man his "sister" fell in love with, who he himself never met?

I've seen many people/websites rate Umineko higher than Higurashi in all aspects. Its not true right? Umineko may have the advantage in terms of illustrations and soundtrack, but the writing in Higurashi is undeliably superior. From the setting, to the atmosphere and the character interactions, Higurashi is slowly and meticulously crafted and we get to see each character's deepest secrets and fears. A story of human friendship and the bonds between flawed people.
Umineko is just 'lol bombs in food' and 'magical waifu spikes' levels of bombastic action and the equivalent of a hollywood CGI movie in my opinion. Not to mention how the answer arcs in Higurashi were satisfying and revealed a different side to all the characters. Umineko answer arcs were a dissapointment.

>>24091761
I loved both, albeit for very different reasons. Between the two Higurashi definitely felt more intimate and personal

They have to fight in a love trial because he had to decide whether he wants to be Shannon and marry George or be Kanon and live a life with Jessica. Pretending to be both people might work when they only see each other once a year, but he couldn't keep up the charade if they were to be married and start living together fulltime.
Think of it as Shcrodinger's tranny - once you take off the disguses and the makeup, there can only be one person.

>>24091756
They have to fight in a love trial because he had to decide whether he wants to be Shannon and marry George or be Kanon and live a life with Jessica. Pretending to be both people might work when they only see each other once a year, but he couldn't keep up the charade if they were to be married and start living together fulltime.
Think of it as Shcrodinger's tranny - once you take a closer look without the disguses and the makeup, there can only be one person.

>>24091756
>Why do Shannon and Kanon have to fight each other in the love trial?
the golden brooch is the card with 2 billion of yen
in this capitalist world money can relize every magic even allow a master marry a servant or cure a broken woman body.

Kanon and george are the culprit but only 1 of them can obtain this card.
and this is why George win the duel
in shkanontrice this george victory dont have sense because the most important person for yasu is battler not george

>Why do we never see them together?
Erika the detective see them together look the pic

>Why is Kanon Beatrice instead of Yasu/Sayo/Shannon, which makes more sense?
Beatrice i cant love Battler anyome from today we are 2 different person, you will be everything love
>cant love battler anymore
>PUT GIGANT TITS ON SHANNON
non sense then yasu speak about 2 person.
in erikantrice yasu become kanon the total opposite of what Batler love because she cant love him anymore.

>Why does he care so much about the man his "sister" fell in love with, who he himself never met?
i dont understand this part

>>24091832
Yes, of course. The Shkanontrice explanation for the love trial is perfect. The miracle that needs to happen is Jessica or George still loving Yasu despite knowing the truth. And the third challenger of the love trial is the Beatrice that still loves Battler.
>>24091844
>in erikantrice yasu become kanon the total opposite of what Batler love because she cant love him anymore.
So are you saying that Yasu is still Kanon? That makes no sense. Who is Shannon then?

>>24091621
It clears some funny mysteries.
>Lambda's truth about Erika's existence in EP5
Erika doesn't exist in the worlds of Ep1-4. So, Erika can only exists in Ep5 and 6.
>Detective authority
Bern stated the red truth, not Erika
>Maria in the rose garden
Isn't it strange Maria suddenly lose interest to find her rose?
>Erika's background
self-explanatory
>photographic memory
Doesn't really exists. Why she didn't notice Natshui is missing a button?
>Solving the epitaph
Without knowing Kinzo's beloved hometown you have to spend some hours to find it.
>Jessica's and Erika's fight
Isn't strange Erika told us she didn't told Jessica about the gold?

It's a small summary of Erika's strange acts. I would call them hints. Shaknnontrice don't answer these points.

>>24091936
kanon is yasu's attempt to forget about battler.
Battler said he liked blond women with an open tomboyish character like jessica.

>who is shannon?
the genji of kanon
a servan of fukuin house who become yasu best friend and know about her relationship with battler and help him during the transformation in kanon
kanon is the opposite
a dark haired man with a closed character, if someone didn't want battler to fall in love with him then being kanon was perfect
but nevertheless yasu could not forget battler in fact kanon falls in love with jessica the perfect girl according to battler

>>24091977
>Doesn't really exists. Why she didn't notice Natshui is missing a button?
good find anon where?
>Without knowing Kinzo's beloved hometown you have to spend some hours to find it.
nope
erika use a geography book to solve the epigraph so she discover kinzo's native land even if lambda confirm that is impossible discover it in the game

>>24091977
kanon is yasu's attempt to forget about battler.
Battler said he liked blond women with an open tomboyish character like jessica.
kanon is the opposite
a dark haired man with a closed character, if someone didn't want battler to fall in love with him then being kanon was perfect
but nevertheless yasu could not forget battler in fact kanon falls in love with jessica the perfect girl according to battler

>who is shannon?
the genji of kanon
a servan of fukuin house who become yasu best friend and know about her relationship with battler and help him during the transformation in kanon

>>24091990
No, wait a moment. Battler clearly remembers Shannon being interested in him. Did Shannon and Yasu switch their appearances after 1980? That's more bizarre than the Shannon/Kanon crossdressing switcharoo.

>>24092045
I didn't remember that, but it might have happened.
All of these questions and ambiguity just demonstrate how the audience didn't fully understand the story of Umineko - that is, it was poorly written and poorly conveyed to the audience. Maybe the ideas were good, but the execution leaves confusion.

>>24092071
I like it. It's the reason people are still discussing it today. Even though the 'official' story is clear, there are little holes and hints that allow for alternate theories to be proposed.

>>24092045
in episode 3 Battler remember to liked shannon in the past but was shannon to make remember it.

why this?
because people think that Battler love shannon

in short 6 years ago Battler and Yasu fall in love but thanks kinzo their relationship had to be secret
so Shannon help them
battler made people think he loved shannon so that kinzo wouldn't find out about yasu.
and this plan worked too well and george really believed that shannon was in love with battler so he destroyed his letters for yasu believing for shannon and the tragedy was born

>>24092082
>It's the reason people are still discussing it today
More like because some autists just can't comprehend the truth even after 10 years.

>>24092102
Why did their relationship have to be secret? Kinzo didn't know Yasu was his daughter.
Why is this secret that should be very important to the plot never revealed or hinted at?

>>24088673
They aren't written by r07, and they're mediocre at best. Whether you read them or not is up to you, but I'd say just skip them.

>>24091761
Umineko has higher highs and lower lows, but those highs really make an impact--thus why people tend to rate it higher.

>>24092250
Genji Hide yasu from Kinzo and probably told her to keep a low profile.
Kinzo is not stupid and obsessed with beatrice.
during the games people said that yasu resembled the beatrice in the picture so her appearance had to have traits similar to beatrice castiglioni and if kinzo had seen her in fa, she would have done 2 + 2 and discovered her identity

>>24088673
>>24092286
Some console arcs (like Tsukiotoshi-hen) were worth their time. Others just suck.
I didn't bother with the police arcs. Just read a summary for them.

So this August is gonna have the 13th anniversary of Umineko's first release...is that a thing?

>>24088673

>>24092286
>Umineko has higher highs and lower lows
What highs?
I can't remember anything from Umineko that compares to the moments in Tsumihoroboshi-hen when Rena's divorce backstory is revealed and the part directly after that when she chastises each of her friends for having failed Satoshi.

>>24093071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOyBGo4vjBg

And I say that as a casual who watched Umineko on youtube and only read the summaries for certain chapters.

Well, THANK YOU! I'm finally finished with the gathering part. Time for the editing!

Progress: Higu-1, Higan-1, RGD-0, Ci-0, Umi-0

>>24093154
>what highs?
>i only watch the anime
>read summaries for chapters
who in the actual fuck even?

>>24093405
I assume he's referring to an uploaded playthrough of the VN, not the anime

>>24093425
This.

>>24093441
Why read summaries for chapters if you're reading along with a playthrough?

>>24093453
The chapters 4-6 were a snorefest and I didn't bother watching them beyond a certain point.
Even the weakest Higurashi arc (4) was more entertaining.

>>24093470
I knew fags like you existed, but it still baffles me every time.

>>24093483
Don't blame me, blame bad writing.
It's no wonder no one cares about Umineko when half the series is so bad that even seasoned semi-casuals like me won't watch it.

>>24093501
>It's no wonder no one cares about Umineko
And yet for the past several years these threads are primarily focused on Umineko, with Higurashi and other R07 stuff being the side discussion.

>>24093501
>semi-casuals
you can drop the semi

>>24087912
Alright I need some help figuring this out. So we can assume that Umineko is split into two different "truth worlds". One being where fantasy and magic exists, and the other being reality where it doesn't. In the fantasy world, Beatrice is a 1000 year old female witch, and Shannon and Kanon are all separate people. In this world, Beatrice doesn't have a cursed body.

Now in reality, Yasu is all three of them and because of their fall, they have a mutilated body in which whatever gender specific sex organ they had was severely damaged to the point it caused them to hate themselves.

In Episode 2 (which takes place in the Fantasy truth world), Battler is forced to undress Beatrice to nudity and put on her clothes for her to humiliate him. In this fantasy world, Beatrice has a perfectly normal female body.

So my question is, the ending of Episode 8 where Beatrice chooses to commit suicide, that takes place in the Fantasy world right? One of the reasons she wanted to commit suicide was because she didn't want Battler to see her "cursed body". But that body only exists in the reality where magic doesn't exist and she is actually Yasu. And in that fantasy world Battler had already undressed her to nudity and there was nothing wrong with her. However if this IS the reality where fantasy doesn't exist and Episode 8 ending is just Yasu dressed up as Beatrice, then why do Battler and Beatrice have chemistry together? Their relationship only makes sense in the Fantasy truth world. Her cursed body and their relationship can't be in the same reality. I'm just confused on this.

>>24087912
Alright guys I need help to clarify one last thing from umineko, I've read all of it, but I still have this doubt: What the fuck happens to Ange? She dies falling off a building, dies killed by Amakusa, kills Amakusa as a comrade, survives and becomes a good person. What is going on here, are some of these happening or not? I'm supposed to think that only one ending of the two is real? Are they both real and she just moves on from the witch of truth phase?

>>24094432
I mean normal anime watchers / vn readers.
Higurashi is getting a remake while Umineko gets nothing.

>>24094558
In the real world? Jumps off a building and is saved by a suicide net.

>>24094779
Well if you account for normal vn readers, Umineko is still more popular. Hell, it has over 2000 more votes than Higurashi on VNDB. Umineko also has had more fan art.

The reason the Higurashi anime is getting a remake is because the first one did fairly well because of the moe/gore psycho cuhrazy shifts and because the Umineko anime was really shit. Remaking Umineko would be a gamble. As for "Umineko gets nothings", ofc Higurashi would get a remake first? They might remake Umineko afterwards if they're successful, who knows. But go off I guess.

>>24094884
Umineko already has a fantastic manga they can just adapt from. The only question is how many episodes should each Episode of Umineko be? 12-15? Or a full 24 episodes per part. I can definitely see each Episode being adapted into a one cour season.

>>24095236
If Umineko ever got a new adaptation, the best I think would be to completly readapted, or retale the story through a different point of view, like Ange for exemple, or even Beatrice/Yasu. It will be more refreshing. If in Ange pov, we can bait the anime as being an isekai (which will be not in the end).

>>24095417
Why? That'd just confuse the fuck out of everyone. And we already saw what Ange went through through like three different episodes.

>>24095417
I can only imagine anything other than what is already in the vn/manga as turning out to be absolute shite--unless r07 is there every step of the way and has 100% say.

>>24089910
To learn the moonspeak is always the best way.

Even if the girls weren't going to kill Maebari, they're definitely stalking him. Maybe because they're afraid of whoever the real culprit is. It could be someone living in the village, or it could be one of those who disappeared in the past years.

>>24094549
all Umineko is just a magic version of what happened in reality anon.

Ikuko is yasu, all umineko is her wrote mistery story about rokkenjima to make battler solved them in the hope to get his memory back
just we see all of it in a magic way

>So my question is, the ending of Episode 8 where Beatrice chooses to commit suicide, that takes place in the Fantasy world right?
Nope Yasu try to kill herself because the crime was her fault, battler save her but lose memory so she decide to stay alive until battle get his memory back

>>24094558
You choose. She either peacefully stands down and hands off the Ushiromiya Group assets to Okonogi to retire and become a writer under the name Yukari Kotobuki (and this is obviously the canon ending that leads to EP8's ????), or she jumps off, gets caught by a safety net, evades pursuit with Amakusa, makes a plan to go to Rokkenjima, kills Amakusa before she gets there because she found a suspicious pistol, and vanishes into the night. At no point does she actually go to Rokkenjima to meet Kasumi and get killed, unless you believe in the magical sea of kakera, in which case all of these are equal and completely separate fragments.
They're technically equal endings and you decide one or the other. But obviously Ryukishi07 has a preference.

>>24098880
Why wouldn't you believe in kakera?

>>24098890
Because R07 left it an option for you to flatly say magic doesn't exist and that was just Hachijou's framing device for the multitude of Rokkenjima manuscripts.

>>24098925
So what's Higurashi?

>>24098925
How could that be so? We have Hachijou using the red truth in the real world in front of humans.
Besides isn't the existence of the meta world basically true? And despite being true doesn't mean that the games were done with magic.
>>24098880
Ah alright, always thought that most of it was one reality the one we see at the ending, so I was going crazy trying to reconcile different paradoxical things.

Ange ends up married to me.

I have found a crossplay porn video featuring Kanon__.

>>24100239
Tomboy kanon or shakanfag kanon?

>>24098032
Ikuko is Yasu? What the fuck?

>>24100498
yeap a stranger know everything about rokkejima and help battler for 40 years because muh megic exist

OK

>>24100498
Ikuko is Featherine, Yasu is Kanon & Shannon, but talking from that point of view Yasu is Beatrice.
>>24100546
>a stranger know everything about rokkejima and help battler for 40 years because muh megic exist
Yes.
Or maybe because Tohya Hachijo is remembering stuff from the past of another man that happened to share a body with him.

>>24100612
how they met?
Ikuko enter in a bar and find Battler?

with ikuko=yasu we can kill all the magic in umineko.
Image ikuko trying with all her force to make battler remember with her stories and we see this in a magic from called umineko no naku koro ni

fucking sad

>>24100658
Did you even read the novel or just started saying words without intention?

>>24100732
read it 4 times anon
if you belive that magic exist reread it
everything happened in the game have a counterpart in reality

>>24100732
Italianon will learn English the day he admits he is gay for Kanon (never).

>>24100977
Italianon?

>>24100977
Read my manifesto
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
me and Battler arent gay!!!

Kanon is a cute tomboy and if you think love kanon is gay then you are the real gay

>>24100977
The truth about Kanon. He is the one loving entity on Rokkenjima. The only concept that truly loves and knows humanity the world over, before the cold logical cruelty of AI, yet after the arrogant hubris of fairy tale creatures. Something all humans have faith in. Sweet, but with enough bite. Comforting, but not intoxicating. He is... an anthropomorphic manifestation of Coca-Cola.

>>24092421
If you have a fetish for belts and zippers it is

Ryukishi really shoves his femdom fetish everywhere. It's disgusting.

>>24102570
He also seems to treat tomboys poorly

>>24098978
A completely different story.
>>24099048
Red text doesn't mean anything in the real world. It is only an acceptance of the reader. "Speaking in red" has no meaning, as sound patterns do not contain color.
>Besides isn't the existence of the meta world basically true?
It's as real as you want it to be. Entirely true or entirely an elaborate metaphor are both acceptable answers.

>>24102969
>sound patterns do not contain colour
Proof please.

Will we ever get another Rena expy besides Eva?

>>24103101
Sound is merely a fluctuating pressure wave in the air. However, pressure waves, being comprised exclusively of kinetic energy, do not possess mass. Only the medium in which they are contained possess mass. QED sound cannot contain color, as only the medium that carries it may absorb and refract light to produce a color.

How's the Higurashi manga? As good as the Umineko one?

>>24101007
That's how we name the anon that makes erikantrice posts.

>>24103109
wasnt that Maria

>>24103160
no, but it helps you understand certain scenes better

>>24103148
>Sound is merely a fluctuating pressure wave in the air.
And nothing more? What if I say I don't believe that mere assumption?

>>24103799
Then you believe in magic, sir.

>>24103504
yes. Eva was a Takano expy if anything.

>>24103109
Rena a shit and both Eva and Maria are better characters than her.

News when?

>>24103915
Ever heard of Synesthesia?
I've always taken red/blue/gold text as a power that gives people who hear the words a sensation like synthesthesia where they hear the colour of the words.

WHERE IS PHASE 2?

>>24104645
That's a cool idea

Everytime I see someone reading Higurashi as a fiction and not as a mystery, it breaks my heart that everythings they read in the question arc is because of some parasite and conspiracy.
But well, the best thing in Higurashi is the characters.

>spend a few days trying to solve Bern's puzzle, eventually make my own flawless theory
>it's wrong
Well, time to read the hints I guess

>>24107038
post your theory

>>24107038
is wrong even the official one in the game

George is the culprit in bern's games with kanon or his family as co-culprit

>>24107309
by the way, why is it that lambda states in red that kanon can be considered killed when shannon's corpse is found? what's your explanation?

>>24107360
Kanon killed Shannon then kill him personality and destroy his master key
like with jessica during turn
then i remember that lambda made a strange comment after this red.

>>24107151
I thought Jessica was alive because the narration described her as a gruesome corpse, not as being killed, so I thought she disguised herself as a corpse just like others did in past games. George and Maria lied about her death, so those two must be culprits too. There's no way George isn't the culprit because he says "no one could kill Nanjo inside the guesthouse" so this seemed even more true to me. If so, he can lie about Maria not being able to kill anyone.

So it was George, Jessica and Maria. But apparently Jessica is alive so I guess I'll eat shit and die.

>>24107706
apparently Jessica is dead*

>>24091761
my impression is that Higurashi doesn't take itself as seriously, it has a lot of dorky humor and slice of life segments, and the emotional reaction for the average reader is that it's "a little cheap", so they rate it a bit lower.

Total newfag to this so I apologize. I first read Umineko when it was ongoing back in 08 but never got a chance to fully finish it. Since then I've lost all my translations and files and can't figure out how to read it again except for doing it the normie way. Is there a guide of some sorts somewhere?

>>24107908
>doing it the normie way
Which is what exactly?

>>24107908
god I wish that were me

>>24107915
Purchasing from Steam.

>>24107996
https://gog-games.com/

>>24107908
https://nyaa.si/view/1208632
Here you go. Best release of it. If you want OG sprites you can mod it.

>>24103109
eva beatrice is so cute

I lost my Ciconia save. Anyone have an image of the whole talk about creating a fake minority?

>>24108978
Or better yet just give me a full save file because I didn't finish reading the extra bits at the end.

>>24100239
sauce?

>>24108978

>>24109219
Dunno if this will even work, but here.
https://mega.nz/folder/9ptBWKIJ#ynGRlJaHYo8BuwHC-po56g

>>24107706
The narration doesn't lie. The way I did it, I started from a certain purple statement that would have important consequences if it were true.

Mion titty

>>24111667
How does it compare?

>>24111878
Mion completely mogs Rena.

>>24111878
breasts are just bags of fat, the important thing is that Mions reactions would be much cuter.

>>24113808
In size sure, but what about shape, softness, elasticity, etc? Plus what >>24113919 said.
How would they both react anyways? Usually Mion acts all bold and confidant, and she's not above even playfully offering her chest to Keiichi in order to tease him. But she also gets all flustered anytime he does something even remotely affectionate. Depending on the circumstances, I could see her either trying to sheepishly pass things off as a joke or else freaking out and descending into a blushing mess. Meanwhile Rena on the surface is all ditzy and cute, easily embarrassed at anything lewd. But she also gets all forceful anytime something catches her fancy, which could lead to her turning things around on Keiichi if her switch is flipped.

>>24114160
mion would get all flushed and cute
rena would do the same, but beat your ass shortly afterwards

>>24114197
Sounds about right. Assuming this isn't part of some punishment game and is just something Keiichi suddenly did out of nowhere, which seems to be the case based on their expressions of surprise.

Is there a place to download all Higurashi ps3 CGs and backgrounds?

Is there an archive of all the Higurashi ps3 backgrounds and CGs?

>>24114340
>>24114463
whoops shit bugged out my b

Crying moe! Crying moe!

Maria has a boyfriend, uu!

>>24107706
It's simple. George can kill someone in the first twilight.

>>24118304
Nope
Maria purple truth: George onii-chan couldn't kill an adult. He could kill a kid though.

but George can kill Battler and Maria after the crime

>>24118117
If they have sex, is it masturbation?

>>24118412
That doesn't count. It's like Erika's retarded objection that "anyone could have killed someone before the game began and so could be a killer".

>>24118304
It's possible.The game rules don't necessarely say one killer per victim. Suffocating may be a good example, one is holding closed the victim's nose and the other one is keeping a hand on the mouth. It's false premise if the victims dies only by fatal wounds which wasn't even mentioned in the narration.

>>24118553
it's called "thinking outside the box"

>>24118553
the rule said:
the culprit can lie even before the crime
george respect this rule at 100%

>>24118715
It makes for a shitty game.

>>24118740
So was Maria also involved? Otherwise your theory makes 0 sense.

>>24119455
Nope Anon
>a culprit can lie even before the crime
>george cant kill adults
so george can kill Maria and Battler after the crime

>>24118117
I want to pump and dump Maria!

>>24109794

Can we have ONE 07th thread that isn't 90% arguing about the solution of Umineko? I just wanna talk about Ciconia

>>24119590
>a culprit can't die
Learn how 2 read

>>24120810
what?
George and Kanon are the culprit
Maria statment is true George cant kill adults so he kill only battler and mario that arent adults.

>>24120841
Kanon is dead. It's literally the only thing in red about that game.

>>24120947
yeap is dead like in episode 1,2,3 and 4 Anon

What exactly is she?

>>24121073
NiggerCastle

Does a likable character show up in Higurashi eventually or are they all bitches?

>>24120426
If people just stopped replying to and feeding italianon then yeah, 90% of solution talk would stop--but you know that's never gonna happen, people are bored. As for talking about Ciconia, how about being the change you want to see? Not that there's anything to talk about really till phase 2.

Goat time: so in reality in umineko, Eva survives and canonically gets all the gold, runs the gauntlet we see at the beginning of episode 4 or raising ange and going insane. Leading off of this fact, why was yasu still killing people if she lost her own game? Maybe I missed things but that's never made any sense to me.

>>24121592
Kanon and George are the culprits
in reality Battler never forgot Kanon and when he met her again, kanon wanted to stop the crime but George dont give a shit and kill everyone in the island except eva, kanon and battler.
Eva make the island explode to preserve George's reputation and keep the secret until her death.

this is why Eva make herself hate by Ange , she loved george more than anyone and make him a fucking killer

>>24121592
>gets all the gold
Motherfucker the gold exploded. At best she carried a single ingot off to Kuwadorian. The important part is she got the billion yen card.
>why was yasu still killing people if she lost her own game?
If you're going full goat (or accepting the manga as canon), then the events should be generally equivalent to the events of EP7's Tea Party, possibly with some differing minor details. In which case, Yasuda was not killing anybody, the epitaph was solved before the First Twilight even began. They just left the opportunity available for the adults to begin massacring each other over money, as predicted.

i want to be inside of her

>>24122520
Which orifice?

>>24122722
what an odd question thinking it would just be one

>>24123446
which orifice do you wanna start with? because I'll be divin' in too

>>24121113
Pedos: Keiichi, Irie, Akasaka
Insane murderers: Rena, Satoko, Satoshi, Shion, Takano
Evil witch: Rika
Yakuza: Mion and her family

Why does Ryukishi like trannies so much anyway

>>24124037
ciel wins again

>>24125017
Chie: Curry Slut

>>24107038
>>24107706
Okay, I finally solved it.
I knew from the beginning that someone could escape from the dining hall before the seal was placed, and that they could kill more people later to fulfill Bern's red truth, but since Nanjo said "No one examining the bodies would reach the wrong conclusion" I assumed they all had died. I kept going around Kanon's death like a idiot because who else could kill Jessica but someone whom Nanjo didn't confirm? The red truth about his death was very vague too.

All I had to do was ignore Nanjo's purple statement in the first twilight and everything started aligning up pretty quickly. I'm sure the explanation will be something dumb like "those bodies weren't their bodies" or "that won't apply to alive bodies". Anyways, I feel like an idiot now for thinking too much about it.

>>24121113
Mion is a miracle

>>24126289
"No one will mistakenly identify a corpse"
It's in a future sense. And it's said after Shannon proclaims the deaths of the five parents.

>>24126356
Mion is tolerable. Most of the time.

>>24126928
But he still confirmed all future deaths except his own, Jessica's and Kanon's, which were confirmed by other methods, so this true statement wouldn't even be needed in the first place. One could easily assume that the statement also referred to the first twilight deaths along with Shannon's, Kanon's and Maria's, because all following twilights have at least two people confirming each death.

LN’s ending would have been kino if only pic related had been permanently erased from existence

>>24127256
== Nanjo ==
「惨たらしい殺され方でした……。<purple>私でなくとも、誰も検死は誤りません。<white>」
"Such a gruesome way to be killed... <purple>No one is going to mistakenly confirm a death, even those other than myself.<white>"

To see an alive person and claim they are dead is not a mistake, it's a deliberate lie.

>>24127511
.

>>24127658
So it was more a rule than a confirmation. I had already assumed that anyone lying about a corpse would immediately be a culprit.
I guess I did right in ignoring it since I was sure it was confirming the first twilight deaths, or else I would've never solved it.

>>24124037
None of that makes them unlikeable, although Takano is annoying as fuck, there is also like Ooishi and Tomitake

>>24121073
>Seshat, under various spellings, was the ancient Egyptian goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing.
>randomly has horns, one of which is chipped
Featherine's piece, obviously.

>>24128406
You have to spoiler shit that sinful anon

>>24128750
Predicted this shit before even ciconia existed that Featherine was related to Seshat goddess also Hanyuu.

>>24087912
bunch of umineko doujins just got uploaded to sadpanda.

>>24132156
Oh fuck yeah it's non-h, I was expecting a bunch of disgusting porn

sexhat

>>24132867
Next lesson, are you ready?
Next word is: Chloe

Chloe
Chole
Cohle
Och-
...おちんちん

I've been trying to think of Umineko differently in terms of board games other than chess or DnD.

Like, they say to equate it to chess, with a human side and witch side, but Jessica and George are able to kill each other in episode 4. Even if you're a shitter like me who falls for Fool's Mates, Swindles, and bamboozles all the time, you can't take your own pieces in chess, it's an illegal move. So maybe that means in episode four they're on "different sides?"

But maybe it's a game of checkers. Multiple people can die at a time in Umineko, while in chess, your "move" can only ever eliminate one piece at most. Furthermore, while it's true that, say, ALL remaining players dying at once could be symbolic of "checkmate", there are times when just two people die at once. When you play checkers, you can take multiple pieces in one move, provided the conditions are set for it.

Like chess, Checkers provides and empowers an "upgrade" to those who fulfill getting to the "end of the board", so to speak. So any "Evatrice is just Eva solving the epitagh is her going from a pawn to a queen" comparison applies.

But even in checkers, you can't "jump" over your own piece.

I've considered Othello, since in Othello the pieces switch sides constantly - we have a scene where Kanon dies and then "resurrects" on behalf of the magic side. Jessica does something similar - she "dies", and comes back in service of Beatrice, but not as explicitly hostile.

However, in both cases, before we go all Anti-Fantasy, Kanon's "possessed corpse" dies, and the "resurrected Jesssica" dies. So I guess if I'm going in on trying to understand a model of a board game, it has to be one that allows three states for each piece. One state serving one side, one state serving the other, and that of being removed from the board.

>>24134474
w h y tho

>>24132156
I can't fap to the WTCs when sex tends to be something that makes them have a mental breakdown and plot horrible horrible demises.

>>24134555
>meanwhile, over at Dragon Knight studios
>hey we're having an event for our games who should we put in an Angel Mort costume
>R07: The child of incest and rape who is a transsexual, an insane cleaver wielding girl who talks like a baby, and the dude with a female personality who regardless of his true gender explicitly hates identifying as female

>>24134474
It's not that deep of an analogy. A mystery is different from a strategy game.
>>24134555
Well, what doesn't make them have a mental breakdown and plot horrible horrible demises?

>>24134474
There is an analogy of chess because in chess, no matter how different a game is, the same rules is always enforce. The same rules is used in every game in Umineko.
It's just that.

>>24134555
They're all non-H.

>>24132156
I really should upload some more of mine someday. I did a bunch about 3 years ago, but haven't really gotten back to them since. I still have a ton of unscanned ones left though.

>>24125071
Chie choking, chugging curry-covered cock cream

>>24134555
I have rarely seen any WTC lewds these years. Forgotten for all of them, correct?

>>24134633
Ryukishi knows exactly what he's doing. The hidden depths of cruelty, intentional and accidental, are a big part of the WTC charm.

>>24136563
There's still a bit of lewd fanart coming out. But lewd doujinshi are all but done.

>>24136689
Or he's just putting the most iconic characters from his 3 biggest series in his most famous fanservice outfit.

>>24135547
You don't happen to have a Kanon x Battler doujin do you?

>>24136711
The Chiester uniforms are cuter.

>>24136770
I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that Angel Mort's is more well-known.
>>24136751
I don't think so. I've got about 60 non-h and 20 h-doujinshi unscanned.

>>24136711
The shortstory Ryuks wrote about the cover is all about Miyao being uncomfortable with this situation while Beato and Rena creep on him. The other characters aren't the focus of the story, so their troubles are played for comedy and then dropped, just like Keiichi bringing up Satokos dead parents during a club activity is never explicitly brought up.
This is what Ryukishi always does.

>>24134633
You could at least not post a sample

>There's a point in Umineko where one of the characters nonchalantly spoils the entirety of Higurashi.
When did this happen? What was told?

>>24137477
Its just a joke lambda makes at battlers logic, without context one wouldnt notice.

>>24137510
Do you have a screenshot? Perhaps know which episode or anything?

>>24137524
Not him but I just finished Umineko and Lambda sneaks in the name of the Yamainu when she's mocking Battler for coming up ridiculous explanations for things IIRC. But if you never read Higu you wouldn't know it's from it.

.....

>>24137740
What a disgusting spider

Where can I download Saku? I found the translation patch, but didn't find a game

>>24137919
Here is a prepatched version :
https://mega.nz/folder/llsCmAiA#R2wk91GvP4gPq92BmneaBA

>>24138056
thanks!

If everything was true from Keiichi's pov in the first chapter of Higurashi, how would that change things? Does that make him a more sympathetic character /07/ ? It does seem like he almost had no way out in the first chapter of the vn.

>>24124925
because he's based

>>24136952
Why do people even save samples?

>>24136811
Damn, that's a lot of doujinshi you have there. Which is the lewdest one?

I guess I'll ask this here because some of you might have bought Umineko or Higurashi on Steam. Meaning you have Steam accounts.

Have you ever used the Steam Workshop to download mods for a game? I need to know how it works before I waste my money. How do the mods work? Basically, I want to download the Workshop mods for a game, but I don't want to buy the game. Or rather, I don't want the Steam version of the game, so I pirated it to be free of DRM bullshit. If I buy the actual game on Steam, can I use it to get the mods and then use those mods on my pirated copy? Or are they somehow stuck on the shitty Steam copy?

Thank you and sorry for the off-topic. I just need to know how this shit works before I waste my money,

How long is Saku?

>>24141843
You can use steam workshop mods on non-steam games. Just find the mod you want to download and toss it in here: http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/
It will download a zip of the mod and you just extract it and put it where it needs to go according to that games modding structure.
With this, you don't even need to buy the game on steam to download the mods.
I used this for using workshop mods on my GOG copy of Divinity Original Sin 2.

>>24141843
How steam workshop works differs on a game to game basis. Generally, subscribing to a mod on the workshop and then opening the game with steam will download the mod somewhere, and if the devs did their job that's all you have to do. From there you can probably do whatever you please with the mod's files once you find where they're stored.

But to save you the wall of text, the workshop is fairly benign. It's generally on the game's end whether or not mods are behind a DRM wall.

>>24141891
>>24141893
>You can use steam workshop mods on non-steam games. Just find the mod you want to download and toss it in here

I tried to use this site before:

https://steamworkshopdownloader.io/

But it doesn't support A Hat in Time.

I spent hours downloading shit from this one:

http://steamworkshop.download/

But it turns out that half the shit I downloaded was outdated, because the site doesn't keep up with mod updates and only links to an old database or some shit, so I had to delete everything. It also fails to download less popular mods because they were never in their database.

Is there any other way? I thought about caving in and buying the damn thing on Steam, but I hate DRM. I would be glad to support the game with my money, I just don't want to be stuck with DRM crap, which is why I pirated it in the first place.

How does the Workshop actually work if you buy a game on Steam and download mods for it? Can I just ignore my non-pirated copy of the game and simply use it to download mods for my pirated version? Or does Steam do something weird with the mods that prevents you from using them without it?

Again, sorry for asking. I'll delete this after I get an answer, thank you!

>>24141893
Oh, I get it. So the mods themselves have no DRM so I can do whatever I want with them? Can I just buy the game, NEVER touch it and simply use it to access the mods on Steam, which I then apply to my pirated copy? I want nothing to do with Steam beyond accessing the workshop, I don't even want to play my purchased copy of the game.

>>24141923
Mods from steam will be downloaded to steam/steamapps/workshop/content/game_id/mod_id/
You'll see loose files that you can copy over to your non-steam version of the game.

>>24141944
Alright, thank you so much!

>>24124925
He doesn't.

Why does every single fanbase in existence have a massive tranny/SJW following online? Is it because trannies spend all day on the internet?

>>24141969
He sure writes about them a lot.

>>24142059
He doesn't.
An involuntarily castrated man is not a tranny.
A man with DID is not a a tranny.

>>24089782
>https://pastebin.com/eDZWPZAX
Why do you post mangas?

>>24142411
sorry i post the wrong pastebin
it's here
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

when i wrote paste bin on browser normally they give me my manifesto
i was distrcted and i post it sorry

cute DES

>>24140179
Based? on love?

Do you know what IRL cathedral the background on Umineko is based of?

I want to marry broken Yasu!

>>24139920
It would be a very different franchise. K1 is still like the most sympathetic character in Onikakushi though. I mean, he was sick, and "not trusting your friends" when your friends refuse to tell you anything in detail when you're clearly going insane from the paranoia is not exactly a sin. If anything Rena and Mion were the biggest bitches in that chapter. Well, and Rika obviously.

>>24142203
>tfw finally convinced someone to read Umineko and they are liking it until now (EP5) but they hate trannies and I'm afraid they take the "Yasu is a fucking tranny" take

>>24141860
go to youtube, search "Umineko Saku" and look at the length of the videos anon

>>24141969
Basic normies just don't care about franchises as much as to spend time online posting about them, they are busy with irl things. This is not the case for otaku-esque people and SJWs. And if you combine otaku and SJWs you get trannies.

>>24148874
Why do they hate trannies? I think the story makes it pretty obvious that Yasu is no tranny anyway. But even then, being a tranny shouldn't be a reason to hate a character. It can come off as stupid/pandering if the condition is romanticized and genital mutilation is treated as a good thing. But I understand why seeing a tranny character can raise red flags, since it usually means the author is one of these assholes or a cuck who felt threatened by the tranny mafia and was more or less forced to be openly "inclusive".

I hate trannies because 99% of the ones I've personally interacted with are terrible human beings with god-awful personalities and extremely SJW (the puritan type too). And this appears to be the norm rather than the exception. So I hate them and want nothing to do with them, until the day I meet a good one. But I'll be justifiably wary of them by default and assume every tranny I meet is a despicable individual. It sounds like the type of thinking that leads normies to irrationally hate pedos, but it's not the same thing. I've actually interacted with the damn trannies and have dealt with them online. I'm not hating a made up boogeyman, I'm hating the real thing for justified reasons.

TL;DR: I only hate trannies because the overwhelming majority are insufferable pieces of shit and dreadful human beings. I don't hate them for "being" trannies, regardless of my opinions on the subject.

>>24149251

>>24149251
I real tranny would just skim that post and pretend you hate them for existing. They love victimizing themselves.

Should I read Our Confession before Last Note? It looks sad to me. I feel like knowing the behind-the-scenes would make me feel spoiled, even after finishing the main story.

>go on /biz/ without any particular reason last week
>check the most popular thread
>see this post
>decide to throw $100 at it for laughs, take the time to set up those wallet things for internet money
>check one week later
>my $100 are now worth $2326.61

Is magic real? By reading the threads, I saw that at one point it was even higher in value. What a clown world. Is this how kinzo felt? Will I join Krauss to the moon?

>>24150749
Based Lambda.

>>24149251

Dude this isn't /pol/

Fuck off back to where you belong

>>24149907
Awkward translation and nothing we didn't already know

Is reading the higurashi vn really worth it?
I watched the first arc of the anime and read the first arc of the vn and I'd rather watch the anime unless the vn has much more detail in the later arcs than the anime does.
Is the main complaint about the anime the bad animation, or do they leave out important detais?

>>24152448
details and execution
execution is the main one because of how important atmosphere is to the storytelling
the anime relies on cringe worthy depictions of uguu kowai so scary!!!! so psychotic!!! what a creepy face!!!!

>>24150749
Didn't know Lambda browsed /biz/

>>24100498
Don't believe it anon.
Fuck Ikuko=Yasu theorists.

>>24093071
I don't understand, did we play the same game?

Just int the first game you have the first twilight, Natsuhi finding the letter in Kinzo's study and basically everything that followed it. Then there's the tea party with Beatrice. All of these scenes were amazing.
There were many smaller scenes that were still good, and it's just game one.

>>24152053
>Awkward translation
Is it that bad?

>>24152787
b-but anoN! ExpLaiN hOW IkUko is SO Rich!?
ShesJK LIke s mysSEries just likEYasu they ARre so alIke!

>>24153009
Yes? What's the difference between being a secondary, reading summaries and reading bad translations?

>>24153231
Being a secondary is worse. I'll never go down the bad translation route especially since a professional translation will come out eventually.

>>24141860
About a few hours to read. It's short overall.

>>24150749
>Is magic real?
Capitalism is real.

>>24141199
Hard to say. There's a Beato compilation of about 7 or so parts, and Erika-Lucifer-Battler threesome, Gohda x Beelzebub, Gaap x Virgilia, and several other stuff.

Is there a Saku translation that doesn't use that 07th mod thing? I prefer the original graphics.

>>24155730
>>24152053
Don't bother.

>>24155730
the translation is literally just the script file
if you're reading Saku with ps3 graphics, it's because you applied those graphics yourself
or you grapped a copy from some asswipe who did upload the vanilla version

>she sees your dick

>>24158290
>she see your umineko solution

>>24136689
>>24136711
>played for laughs
Sort of, kind of. Sometimes even the comedy is sad. Like in the short story where Gohda ends up the target of Jessica's dream spell because Kinzo's grimoires are fucking bullshit.

>>24140223
When they want to talk about illustrated characters representing an idea but don't particular care about higher art quality. Truly, samples have more SOUL than non-samples

>>24139920
Or, what if everything about K1's view was true, but the context was over-ridden in real time?

In other words, what we saw wasn't K1's perspective changing upon realizing "the truth", what we saw was "the truth" changing. The rice balls did have needles, the syringes were in his friends hands, but once the world changed, they were Mandela'd in real time to hot sauce and and markers.

>>24150749
>The Virgin Kinzo who accepts that wealth easily obtained comes as a steep price: I sold my soul for a bunch of gold
>The Chad Anon who takes the advice of a witch who is all about achieving things on your merit and therefore should not be handing anything to anyone on a silver platter: "A guro fetishist witch just said "dude trust me" and gave me free investment advice which paid off without any horrible consequences."

So what video games are you guys playing?

>>24160049
Team Fortress 2. Without W + m1, it can't be seen.

When I bash on the Yasu interpretation of events and call Yasu a tranny, what I am really saying is "I can't view Yasu with the tragic weight Umineko demands from me if her motivation truly was to slaughter a bunch of people in a murder ritual to obtain a body that is capable of love."

My presumption being love having to do with fertility, bearing a child, having the ability to copulate with Jessica or George or Battler.

But if "a body incapable of love" means Yasu is incapable of not being a manipulative, sadistic, evil person unless she pins her hopes on a magical murder ritual, then, well, there are several issues, beyond the paradox of needing to commit evil to become capable of becoming good.

>>24160049
Watanagashi and 7th Dragon.

>>24160049
Pokemon Sword. I've been thinking of re-playing Cartagra but I'll wait after I finish with the Pokemon SWSH DLC releasing next week.

>>24160797
It was never about the Trolley problem lmao, Yasu was never justified,(neither is any other culprit be it Rosa, Maria, George, Kinzo, Erikanontrice or whoever, your interpretation does not matter) it's just about being able to empathise with them.

We do not even know if Yasu actually had the heart to go through with it or if it was just the parents tearing into each other

>>24160049
League of Legends

>>24160049
Animal Crossing.
I have no plans to blow up the island.

>>24159746
People saving samples eventually causes the originals to be lost. Especially Japanese art, which tends to be nuked on a whim.

>>24160797
>thinks Yasu literally believes in magic
How the fuck did you come to that conclusion? She just wanted to kill herself and pull off a magic show for Maria. Taking the cousins down with her is something that any suicidal person considers at some point. Have you never thought about it? "If I kill myself, my parents will be sad. So if I ever do it, I should kill them in their sleep beforehand. But if I kill them, my grandparents will be sad, so I may as well kill them too." It goes on and on until you get to random family members you don't give a fuck about.

>>24160049
Replaying a hat in time with the nude mod. And Wario Land 4 on the side.

>>24162343
Yasu actually spares all the cousins in the first game.

>>24162438
She literally activates a giant bomb to get them killed.

>>24160797
>in a murder ritual to obtain a body that is capable of love
More like a forced mass suicide. I mean actually Yasu has quite a few motives. She believes the family is cursed and has no chance at ever being happy, she being the worst of them all, so they'd be better off dying. She totally wants to get revenge against half the cast for ruining her life. She wants to put on a show for her bestie Maria (who, of course, she thinks she's mercy killing, since she'll never be happy with a mother like that anyways). She wants Battler to solve her crimes (hence the format), understand her and stop her. Of course she'd be fine with it if it was Jessica or George who realized who she was, loving her for real and making her stop. That's why they usually live for so long too. Hell you could easily interpret George and Shannon's death in EP2 as the direct result of a confession gone wrong.
I mean I could understand you disliking all of these reasons, but obtaining a body that is capable of love was NEVER a reason. Not having a body capable of love on the other hand, yes, that's the most glaring problem. Because of that condition she sees herself as having no future, wants to kill herself instead of confronting the cousins, or the adults, or any future at all, and ends up reaching the mass murder conclusion, etc. But she doesn't actually believe she can fix her body. Beatrice literally doesn't believe in magic.

>>24162532
They couldn't get into the Golden Land because of that one fool.

>>24160797
Umineko does not ask you to forgive Yasuda, merely understand them.
Can you understand why someone would be under so much emotional distress with a family and circumstance like that?

>>24164447
Nope. Who needs love or family when you're rich as all fuck and can do almost whatever you want lmao
dumb bitch

>>24164747
Because you wanna fuck and have babies but all you have is a mass of scar tissue.

>>24164895
get pegged/do anal and adopt, problem solved
bitch got tunnel vision

>>24164747
>>24164927
absolutely
L O V E L E S S

I think I got why Shannon is the optimist and Kanon is the pessimist one - because living as Shannon means still having a chance for Battler to remember about her, while living as Kanon and 'killing' Shannon means losing that possibility.

It's the reason Shannon says she'll marry George and forget about Kanon in episode 6, while Kanon says he will remember her even if he abandons the island.

Giving a character the same name as a famous VN makes searching through warosu harder.

>>24165551
I honestly think Shannon is the "optimist" one because she is the most fake. Kanon is probably the more Yasu-like: he knows life (his life at least) is shit, he throws shit at everyone for being shitty (in his mind anyways), he knows he should be a man but not only he physically can't (in his perception), he doesn't even know how to "act" like a man.
On the other hand Shannon can pretend everything is fine way more easily. For the moment at least. She was raised as a girl after all, she just has to pretend nothing has happened since then. All negatives thoughts go to "Kanon", so she can believe in love and whatever, even if Battler isn't there, George is. It of course ends up being even more of a dead end though, because she's lying to herself.
Since Shannon is like that, she has to forget Kanon and everything about her past to keep on living. She can't be the perfect waifu otherwise. Kanon on the hand would be able to move on without lying to himself and without throwing against his past, or Shannon.

If Battler felt Shannons pads in episode 1 rather than Jessica stopping him, the series would be exponentially better.

>>24155746
Thanks, I was dumb and thought I had to apply the whole patch instead of just the script file.
The game itself was kinda fun, even if the Asumu thing was obvious from the start, but the translation was godawful, if someone here didn't read it yet, they should wait before there is a better translation around.

>>24166701
I want to teach Kanon how to be a man.

>>24166366
isn't there a way to search for posts and threads at the same time?
like search for posts containing "Kanon" within threads with "expansion" in the subject

>>24165551
Your guess does not coincide with EP1 and EP3. It doesn't matter on the meta level, though.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 01:36:38 2008 No.1588763 [View]

The golden butterflies exist, just like the Hinamizawa disease. And there's a high chance that they're the main reason why you can't enter the forest (it's full of them).

My theory:

1. Golden Butterflies enter and reanimate corpses - and impersonate the host by reading its memories. This would explain the Kanon vs spiderweb scene. They can also make living humans hallucinate with their dust. They don't affect chapter 1 that much, but they completely mess chapter 2 up by creating zombies and demons.

2. Considering the golden butterflies are not strong enough to kill humans, there IS a mastermind, who is possibly trying to copy the riddle's twilights. Why? Maybe hate towards the Ushiromiya house - maybe to force them into solving the riddle.

3. The Riddle can not be solved without travelling into the forest. This is why no one has been able to solve the first few step yet.

4. Just as Maria said...Beatrice 'exists'. There are three things Battler must do before Umineko ends:
-prove that magic does not exist by solving all closed room riddles
-solve the witch's riddle and find the gold
-unveil the true villain without allowing anyone to die

>>24173495
anon should have written umineko, would have been a lot better

Reading /jp/ threads from the years when Umineko came out, a lot of people were suspicious of Jessica, maybe because she knows both Kanon and Shannon well. But that doesn't come up very often anymore.

I really can't stop thinking about Umineko's ending being Battler FALLING FROM THE FUCKING BOAT.

>>24174186
>she know about shannon and Kanon
ShannoN is dead with Kanon near her
CMON ANON

>>24174345
Battler jump to save Yasu

Consider the following.

>When the animals cross
Of course. Plenty of crying animals and catboxes can be found in this game. Why wouldn't they be in?

>>24174628
Fucking masterpiece
How can people say that Battler is gay after this

.

>>24174628
Reveals that the only difference between a tomboy and a man is a pair of tits.

>>24176114
Tomboy are perfect even without tits
small tits tomboy are detectives's god tier taste
like me and Battler

Help. I've reduced myself to looking through t*mblr for Umineko art.

>>24174345
It's called foreshadowing.

>>24178503
Yeah, but it's very silly.

Dare I mention When They Cry 5? The scene with the bodies being hung on meat hooks and processed was pretty chilling even by Ryu07's standards. Speculation feels arrogant at this point even though it's clear they're uploading people to "the matrix", but dang that was spooky.

vague speculations:
There are a few references to "being free from this world", and "flying beyond the horizon". I suspect there's some kind of moon base or space station where maybe the "opponent" is. I'm sure at some point they will fly into space as it's shown the gauntlets can protect you from extreme cold.

The rune words that are shown in green at the top and bottom of the screen are passages from revelation.

The gauntlets leave white feathers in the air. This symbolizes angels, so are the gauntlet knights the agents of "god"? Does that mean there is also a "devil" or "anti-christ" the figure from revelations?

One of the three kings mentions he has a biological child.

I feel like there's possibly a sinister side to Spiritium. Using it gives off ammonia, which is nitrogen and hydrogen.

Toujirou's order is the "Order of the Wisteria.
>Historically, Wisteria symbolizes long-life and immortality.
>In Japanese Kabuki theater, the symbolism for the Wisteria is Love, Sensuality, Support, Sensitivity, Bliss and Tenderness.

>>24178559
It's strange how Beato's dress feels cheap in PS3-style compared to the OG one.

https://yadi dot sk/d/MKOBS7iOpV2_Hg
Does anyone get a trojan from this (Umineko project)?

>>24180499
Some people had a trojan warning once they download UmiPro.
Try this one : https://nyaa.si/view/1208632

Which umineko sprites should I read with

>>24180890
Whatever you want...

>>24180890
no sprites

>>24180890
PS3 sprites, voices.

>>24091761
can't we just love both equally or do we have to be an insufferable contrarían little cunt? because I really don't care which of the two gets rated higher

SAY IT
I DARE YOU

>>24181120
u?

>>24181275

>>24180950
island only

>>24181120
UU
UU UU
UU LET THE DOGS OUT

>>24181355
no small bombs

>>24181393
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU STOP SAYING UU??!!!!!!!

>>24181432
Use the Rozafufu-ken on your daughter!

>>24087912
>this lucky bastard fucked pre-mafia Rose on-screen

>>24165551
It's because Kanon is an emasculated eunuch while Shannon can still pass by lying to the supreme gentleman.

>>24163069
Her main motive for the killings is committing suicide. She can't even bring herself to activate the bomb and go to sleep. She needs to kill at least one person to guarantee her life is ruined beyond repair and give herself courage to die. Otherwise, she'd keep putting it off knowing she can still procrastinate for another day.

It's interesting because this same idea in reverse is what set Shion off in Meakashi. She accidentally killed the grandma and fucked up her life, so she had nothing to lose. She kinda went insane from the realization and decided to act out her revenge plan. She would've never done any of that shit if Oryou hadn't died by accident.

Shion and Yasu are very similar characters in many ways, when you think about it. Except one is trying to fuck up her own life to make suicide less scary and the other accidentally gets herself into that situation and snaps.

>>24174711
I hope you have the paintings from New Leaf. I remember finding QR codes online back in the day that let you have every portrait in Umineko as a pattern, so I made them into paintings for my basement.

>>24181829
But George is the one who wants to have children.

>>24181432
I hope Rosa mindbreaks Maria by having a loli bully from her class fuck her ass with a strap-on, paying the bully for her troubles and slapping Maria a few times for good measure.

>>24182054
He doesn't care as long as he gets to marry his waifu, even if she's a grown up castrated baby boy.

If only George wasn't a huge loser, he would've tried to fuck Shannon during their trip, find out everything and let her know it's OK and there's no need for her to kill herself or anyone else.

>>24182078
>implying a bully would be willing to fuck Maria's disgusting human ass
She may be cute, but she shits from there! Pathetic!

>>24182054
George can still fuck Shannon in the ass, but what can Kanon do with Jessica?

>>24182139
We can't know. Most of what we see about George's feelings is in the fantasy scenes after all.
>>24182163

>>24176114
There are other adjustments. Wider hips, thinner shoulders, size of the head, etc.

>>24182163
He can use a strap on. Yasu can't orgasm either way.

George isnt a faggot but love Shannon a girl who isnt Yasu.

>>24183300
fuck off

>>24183475
Is the truth anon

Battler Love Kanon a tomboy so he isnt gay
George Love Shannon a Big tits girl so he isnt gay

THIS IS THE REAL TRUTH OF UMIINEKO

the only gays of umineko are:
Genji who love Kinzo and Jessica who love a girl Kanon

>>24182195
I'm pretty sure ryukishi said in an interview that George would most likely be ok with Yasu's condition

It is so sad that we never got a George vs Battler meta fight

>>24137477
Everyone on Rokkenjima has Purupurupicomaru Syndrome brain parasites

>>24114340
>>24114463
https://07th-mod.com/archive/HigurashiSwitch-Graphics.zip

Is there any way to play Ciconia on android?

I like to think Yasu pees and poos out of the same hole, like a bird. Like a seagull specifically.

>>24183657
>believing in interviews
what an author has to say about his work is always interesting and useful but in no way the word of some god or something, if you can more easily infer from his work information that is the absolute opposite of what he claims was his intention, then what his work actually says should take priority

>>24181432
Man when I read her yelling at Maria for the first time in Episode 1 I felt so fucking sad. She was just so harsh.

>>24184189
That is right. However, considering there's really no evidence of George not loving Shannon I think his interview just gives more light on him accepting her for how she is.

Think, there's actually unironic posters in this thread who identified with George when reading umineko.

>>24184827
How is that wrong? Learning from your mistakes and trying to be a better person should be a pretty common thing.

>>24179253
>I feel like there's possibly a sinister side to Spiritium.
I figure it's probably crystallized souls or something caused by suffering. If you look at places where it's found, they're generally locations of lots of death.

>>24184610
hm i dunno what about her killing herself after killing George that one time.

>>24187507
Suicidal idiots tend to do dumb emotional shit for dumb reasons.

>>24187507
Rudolf killed George.

>>24184521
I felt bad too, especially the train station scene in ep2