/jp/ - Otaku Culture

04/11/09(Sat)03:21 iirc

The day I was born.

>>2406846
The day I graduated from high school.

A date, Anonymous?

I was born that way.

I've never been a loser

I don't really have an idea.

The day that I lost the game

I'm a winner. It has always been my goal to be able to stay in my room and look at pictures of stylized fictional characters having sex.

>>2406858
>I've never been a loser

Lying to me will only make this go slower.

Two minutes after my birth, as I had pissed on the nurse the very minute after being born. It's just been all downhill from there.

who knows? I failed so many times...

/jp is the best therapist since you're guaranteed complete confidentiality.

Raped your 5 year old sister? Good job.

Murdered your parents? Who cares.

>>2406846
>>I want explicit details of the moment it occurred to you that you'll never have consensual intercourse and became a bitter, unsocial, incestuous faggot with no friends who browses 4chan all day.

Probably when I turned 3 or 4 years old and layed my hands on my first video game.

You can't avoid destiny.

whenever my mom decided that getting me an NES would fix my poor handwriting, so summer 1993 I think it would be.

and my handwriting still sucks.

Probably when I hit 20. I'd slept all day in my university room after spending the entire eve of my birthday on 4chan.

The good thing is, you become more emotionally resilient, I find myself feeling less and less, whether through apathy, exhaustion of patience or whatever.

>>2406893

My excuse in asking for my first console was that my friend had one and I was being made fun of for not having a NES.

I bet my mother regrets the decision ever since.

>>I want explicit details of the moment it occurred to you that you'll never have consensual intercourse
The moment I figured out it's just easier to kill them first.

Probably when my mom stuffed me with mcdonalds every week when I was 9. It's really hard for teenage girls to be interested in you when you're obese. I lost most of the weight now as an adult but having zero experience with females isn't really helping me to get a girlfriend anytime soon.

I got my nes from my cousin who had one glass eye.

>a bitter, unsocial, incestuous faggot with no friends who browses 4chan all day

The sad part is that it's completely accurate. Am I really that stereotypical?

When my mother bought me a Sega Mega Drive

Fuck NESfags

>>2406925
It just means that you meet the basic prerequisites for browsing /jp/.

The failure branches out from there into diaperfags, asspies, irritable bowel syndrome, etc.

>>2406928

heh, I eventually owned both.

Mothers who spoil their sons seem to turn them into the biggest nerds.

>>2406925
Yes.

I try to take pride in that I'm at least somewhat internet-social and try to be a nice person. ..that's about it though.

>>2406925
It's ok anonymous. You're among friends here.

>>2406946

I take pride in not being internet social. Fuck instant messengers, fuck facebook and fuck irc.

>>2406925
No girl want to be with you. Creepy.

>>2407007
You're in the wrong place if you think we care what girls think bro.

I moved and started junior high in 7th grade instead of 6th.

my extreme lack of people skills made me unable to make friends until high school.

The instant I decided that I couldn't get into a relationship with a women who isn't a virgin and remembered that I'm 22.

If she's already been with a guy and sucked his genitals then the only love she can possibly offer is empty love until she decides that she's bored and leaves. It's not worth the trouble.

Hopeless romantics really are hopeless.

http://www.4chan.org/rules.php
>3. Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography.
>Trolls
>off-topic

This thread is reportable. I have done so, and invite all sages and silent onlookers to do so as well.

Since I was born I'm a shy person, then I got into games and animes when I was 8, that was the end, the rest of History you can imagine; Grow up with no girfriends, no parties etc.

>>2407012
Anon always care what girl thinks.

>>2407021
Same. ;_;

>>2407021
I guess Mio isn't good enough for you, then. It's a shame.

I think it was in 1995 when I was 7 years old. Every boy in my class chased the girls around the play ground, I was a slow runner and gave up to sit on the swings alone.

gotta love natural selection

The moment I started on the path, or the moment it really hit home I was well on the path? The moment I started on the path is the moment I first lay hands on a video game, so probably age 4-5. The moment I really realized it was a few years ago. My mother asked me why my friends never call anymore and I just sort of sat there dumbfounded.

At least I'm not incestuous since my little sisters have always done their job of pissing me off.

I have one friend, and I talk to the girl who lives across the hall from my dorm apartment regularly, so even if I am a loser compared to the average westerner, I guess I'm not a 100% neckbearded shut-in weeaboo.

>>2407046
ouch, that must have been pretty bad. I've never had problems with being a loner but when your parents ask why it's just hard to tell them that their child is a looser.

From what I can tell /jp/ is just addicted to videogames rather than weeaboo shit. It's starting to feel like /v/ in here.

I really wanted to play hockey with the other kids, but they always said no, we'll only let you play if you play goalie. I was too poor to afford a goalie mask so I got hit in the face with slapshots several times, but I stood there and took it because I desperately wanted to play with them. To this day I still have scars on my face from getting hit in the face with pucks.

Don't quite remember the date but I'd place it right at the very first time I ever went online with a video game, that game being Starcraft.

>>2407046

Thank god I don't live at home any more so my parents can't see what a wreck I've become.

>>2407063
Most video games are weeaboo shit.

>>2407057
The time of me becoming a loser, by the way:
I guess I was a loser pretty much all along. My former best friend stopped coming to my house when another guy in my class got a computer at his house which was better than the one my dad had. This must've happened when I was 13, so some time around spring 2001.

>>2407021
Are you serious? I know /jp/ jokes about it a lot but that is really dumb

>>2407063
Because everyone played VNs and Touhou in their childhood, right?

When my dad died.
I had to change school, and I started being bullied because I was the new one.
Now I'm fucked up.

>>2406997
I hate facebook and sites like that, but IMs are the only way I can have friends ;_; Unlike some here I just can't take being lonely, I guess. 4chan isn't fulfilling enough.

I can talk to people just fine, I just choose not to and I find it a chore. Something about being social outside of the internet just doesn't click for me.

I hung out with the valedictorian nerd group in my private high school until they all got cars and cell phones and left my poor ass behind. The funny part is that they always joked that I would end up with some hot girl through some twist of fate and make them all jealous. Funny how that turned out.

; ;

>>2407046
>>2407059
Who calls in this day and age, anyway?
I keep in touch through the internet.

>>2407064
Fuck that sounds terrible. I played hockey all of my childhoos but I was only ever friends with a few of the other kids.

>>2407074
Most of them aren't joking.

>>2407074
Go away girl, you can never feel our pain.

>>2406887
That's why I like /jp/.

>>2407074

Not that guy but I'm the same way.

>>2407091

I'm glad for the people I've met through 4chan.

>>2407059
>>2407069
On the plus side they've now realized I'm a lost cause. No more suggesting I spend more time with others, or go out and enjoy the sunshine.

>>2407064

I was the best goalie around, I had good reflexes so I stopped everything. During one game I stopped all of the shots this one jock did and he got all pissed off.

>>2407103
Do you hold yourself to the same standard? If you had sex with a girl would you deem yourself unworthy to ever have sex with any other girl?

I guess it was the time that I realized that I had friends but that I was also making excuses not to hang out with them.

Has anyone else noticed it's more video games that set us on the path to roneryness?

For me it was old PC games, old LucasArts adventure games, that kind of thing. Actually until I got a PS1 I was a PCfag. But I always loved story driven games. Anything with a story in fact I'd consume.

I think this was the only path, if you are this much of an escapist that you actually look forward to the time you're going to get to read such and such a book then there truly was no other path in life.

Fairly recently. I never felt like that much of a loser because I always stayed in touch with people in real life online. We'd play some games online, do some shit in real life, it was all fun and nice. Then for no reason I noticed I wasn't being included in doing stuff in real life anymore. Then, slowly but surely, they stopped talking to me online too. I became the outcast of outcasts. It's been so long now that it would just be awkward talking to them again like nothing happened.

I feel like this is somewhat common scenario on here, though. Has this happened to anyone else here?

>>2407074

why is it dumb? he wants a pure girl. and he isnt joking

When my parents got divorced.

I lost all my childhood friends and moved with my mom to some high-rise apartment that had no kids around, so I just sat around bored at home all day as my social skills slowly rotted away. My happiness also turned to bitterness because we never celebrated holidays again. My mom didn't see the point in things like Christmas trees when there was nobody to celebrate with, and I stopped having birthday parties.

I don't buy the correlation with video games. EVERYBODY grew up playing video games.

It probably was when I was three. The first time I had awakened to consciousness, and I was lying not in my bed, but on the floor besides.

A bad omen indeed.

>>2407115
>old LucasArts adventure games

Aww yeah. It's my father's fault. He got me playing this.

>>2407130
Everybody grew up playing Mario or maybe a few FPS games. Dig deeper and you get the JRPG crowd, dig deeper than that and you get the niche crowd, dig deeper than that and you get the truly 'hardcore' gamers (goes beyond any 'e sports' faggotry), who play all kinds of games, all genres on all platforms.

How the fuck do you guys remember things that happened when you were kids? I couldn't even remember things that happened to me last year!

I was a loser by birth though I always tried to fit in and it took me until my teenage years to figure out socializing isn't for me

>>2407135
Hell's bells I thought hardly anybody on 4chan remembered them!

>>2407111
Of course. If I'm used goods then I get used goods.

The thing is that I'm not, and I don't want a flaky girlfriend who would dump me and put me in that situation. Until death do we part.

>>2407122
The problem is a virgin girl is not loyal.

She want to try sex with others people (curiosity etc). So a girl that had many sex partner is potentially more loyal than a virgin.

>>2407130
But I don't think everybody pretended to have stuff to do when all they wanted was to play their games by themselves instead of waiting for a couple of guys to finish their turns.

>>2407137

And dig deeper than that ...

>>2407115
I'm not sure if video games turned me into a loser, but they were certainly the starting point of this path. When you don't like spending your time with people you have to find something else to occupy your time. Usually you start off with the more accessible interests like books or video games. After years of that you need to find more hobbies to fill your time so you expand into weeaboo shit like anime, manga, and visual novels.

>>2407111
Yes.

>>2407147
Your view on sex is extremely warped.

But so is everyone's so whatever.

isn't a small part of dating about trying to find the right person? I mean it's unlikely you're going to hit the jackpot on the first try. Maybe that non-virgin girl just had some bad luck, maybe her first boyfriend was pushy about sex, who knows.

Yes I am hopeless.

>>2407146
Maniac Mansion, DotT, and The Secret of Monkey Island are all important parts of my childhood. I think I might go play them again...

>>2407153

Heh, anyone on /jp/ play DF? What is it actually like, asides from the hard learning curve anyway?

>>2407153
Oh my, it's a post from my DFF Jim!

>>2407150
Ignore those "Hurr durr I want virgin girl" people, please.

It's threads like this that make me proud to be a /jp/er and proud to be a man.

Fucking hell guys, you really are true bros, whatever women may have they'll never get to experience the bond that males have between themselves. That's some powerful shit as far as I'm concerned, and it makes me damn proud to be born with a cock.

>>2407150
If a girl is a virgin at anon's age she clearly won't have sex with just anyone for the sake of "experimentation." If she was interested in that she would have lost her virginity a lot earlier.

>>2407150
>So a girl that had many sex partner is potentially more loyal than a virgin.

Haha, oh wow.

This is what sluts actually believe.

>>2407171
SimTown, with dorfs. Everyone with tell you the best part of the game is losing, and they're right. Getting killed by carp, pissing off elves by trading them wooden goods, getting invaded by goblins, flooding your fort with magma, ect. The learning curve isn't _that_ steep. If you want it to be a bit more accessible, try using the Mayday tileset.
http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/df.php

>>2407171

It's stupid.

Why do women fly into these rages whenever we say we like virgins/purity?

Lighten up girls. Everyone has their preferences.

>>2407183
Well, a girl like that may have an abandonment complex.

>>2407181
This is gay, fuck you.

>>2407192
They are mad because various influences drove them to throw their virginity away to some drunk jock before they left puberty and you reminded them of it.

Yes, I'm a loser since birth.

I'm proud of it because I have my own title.

I'm off tonight, very late here. See ya guys tom!

>>2407192
>Implying there are women on /jp/
Hohoho

It's not that you like it, so do I. I'm just aware that it's an extremely retarded standard to set to females from a bunch of chronic masturbators.

>>2407189
I'll check it out some time, probably after I've finished Umineko ep 3.

>>2407197

It's not gay, are you jealous of the brotherhood of men? Men = Superior.

>>2407192
I have my preferences too, but they're not strict unbreakable rules. Fuck smokers, but if I really like the person as a person then hey, I can be lenient.

Really I just get annoyed when people think "dated before"="had sex before"

>>2407193

But what about an apartment complex?

>>2407192
>like virgins/purity
A virgin is not pure. This is BS. A girl is more confident about herself when she had many partners.

It's different for us, we can have a rock-solid base and living alone without too much problem. A girl cannot be this.

And the perfect world reside only on 2d. 3d is another matter, you must live, not having prejudice about anything. It's the life, bro.

>>2407192
Because they're sluts who gave up their virginity too easily. Butthurt about the fact that they're nothing more but used goods they resort to ridiculing Anonymous' ideals, pretending it didn't mean anything to them.

>>2407192
Women around here think they're all high and mighty since they're the minority, until we make it clear that we don't want them, and then they go into fits of denial and rage.

Once you shed your purity you can't go back.

>>2407192
I'd like a girl who doesn't poop. But hey, that's just not the world we live in.

I don't know when.

But I just got my learner's licence, so that's a step forward in things.

I'm a girl and I actually thought I kind of liked you guys until I saw this thread. Guess you're just another bunch of 4chan fucknuckes with your purity complexes. Cowards.

Fuck yes, another "girls ain't lonely" athens thread.

>>2407222
>i'm a bitch
yes we know. now go away.

>>2407222
Who would've thought?

>>2407222
Not all anons are like this, but the problem is that many here want a virgin because this people have performance-complex. Fear. Insecurity.

in b4 bullshit

>>2407222
I actually don't mind having no girlfriend/relationship anymore.
I just setup personalities in my mind that I talk to.
Surprisingly more pleasant than real people. Turns out the perfect woman really is imaginary.

>>2407214
>>2407198
I'm a virgin who wants to hold off until marriage, and those types of comments still make me angry. Not out of some kind of femmenazi rage, but simply out of the stupidity.

Every male in this thread would give up their virginity at the drop of a hat. Why are women set to different standards?

No, I'm not a woman.

>>2407222
Hey there, slut. I hate sluts by the way.

>>2407213
What the fuck does confidence have to do with purity?

It was a funny vicious cycle.
The more I isolated myself the more I got disgusted by what normal people considered normal and more I wanted to be left alone, I had my bullism problems but they ended as soon as I hurt one of the kids enough to scare them.
I think it started when I decided soccer was boring, around here children spend most of their time running after a goddamn ball and discussing about it, and not playing soccer or not being interested in it means being left out from most discussions and activities.

>>2407192
>>2407183
>>2407182
With these posts I see that this thread will turn into a stupidy mysoginist thread.
I'm going to sleep now.Bye.

>>2407207
I'm a man, faggot, and this is really gay.

>>2407222
You trolls don't even try anymore, do you?

>>2407240
>No, I'm not a woman.

>>2407115
I also have fond memories of playing Loom and the Monkey Island games when I was younger.

i'm not a giiiiiiiirl
not yet a womannnnnnnn

>>2407238
You are retarded. If you can have sex, go on. It's experience. Like training. If you think no, you are a religious-faggot, or simply a faggot that deserve to be alone forever.

Warped sex theory is warped.

>>2407222
These threads are really just a whole lot of sameperson every time, don't worry too much. Ignoring these threads and never mentioning gender are the best tools. Some boards like this jump at the mention of a girl (/jp/) and some don't care if you imply it through sexual preference or whatever. (/co/)

Dunno why I'm not hiding this tonight. Eh.

>>2407213
>A girl is more confident about herself when she had many partners.

This is such bullshit, it bases itself on the belief that women need confidence to have sexual partners. Which is clearly false.

>>2407235
I wouldn't mind a girl being sexually experienced.
In fact, I think it'd help a great deal if she takes the first couple of steps.

>>2407249
>i make funny to avoyd ansering kwestchun

>>2407240
They're not, jocks go out with sluts. We're not jocks.

Who cares about purity before marriage, I'd sell my soul to the devil if it allowed me to see my wife with a pink/blue wedding dress, white is for fags.

The day when it first came to my mind, "Hmm.. What was that site my frind was babbling about yesterday? 4chan? Let's see this shitdump..."

And then I was a faggot.

>>2407258
>This is such bullshit, it bases itself on the belief that women need confidence to have sexual partners. Which is clearly false.

Flawed logic. More partners = more confidence. The girl start with 0 (or more o minus) confidence. Simple.

Awesome, we were having a nice friendly thread amongst ourselves and the girls had to come along and ruin it because they were butthurt about losing their virginity.

Typical...

>>2407202
You are right. I'm lurking because I was curious about jp. Anyway, I want to say that I'm not a slut cheating ho and I don't have lots of sex partners.

pic related, it's me.

>>2407253
I'm just all around reserved. Don't drink, no drugs, no smoking, no sex, I barely even curse. Not religious, just personal choices, bro.

>>2407271
This is pure non-sense.
Virginity is overrated. Really. When a girl had sex, is not tainted or cursed, bro. WAKE UP!

>More partners = more confidence. The girl start with 0 (or more o minus) confidence. Simple.
>accusing me of 'false logic'

What is this I don't even....

>>2407280
More partners = more confidence.

I think this is not so hard to understand.

>>2407271
lmao whut

>>2407279

Get the fuck back to /r9k/, you aren't wanted here.

>>2407271
We really need to put up that "No girls" sign.

>>2407244
I don't see how >>2407182 is misogynist at all, I just called you on your bullshit. I'm actually one of the few non-misogynists on /jp/.

I want a virgin girl because it implies shared experiences more than anything else. It probably means she has at least some basic understanding of what it means to be alone.

>>2407283
How is having ever partner you've been with leave you give you confidence?

>>2407286
You have lost the GAME

>>2407293
The keyword is:

EXPERIENCE

So simple, so real.

>>2407277
MY OWN CLONE

It's also the reason why I have no friends. Nobody wants to hang out with the kid who doesn't swear like Eric Cartman and get high off their ass.

>>2407283
>More partners = more confidence.

It doesn't work that way. Women are the receptive party in 99% of sexual encounters. ESPECIALLY in places like nightclubs and bars because these are natural grounds for this kind of darwinistic, male = proactive, female = passive and ornamented exchanges.

Simply put, to claim that a woman needs confidence to get sex is absurd. Stop using 'confidence' as a placeholder word anyway. It's so overused it's fucking meaningless.

>>2407303
Confidence not in having sex, but in general.

It's more likely than you think, bro.

You guys keep falling for the same trolls every time. You're more pathetic than the girls you hate.

The girl must have a love for 2D and not be a normal-friend. That's all I ask.

Oh and not be a fatty. No one likes fatties.

>>2407288
the whole thing with females on 4chan is that it's a vicious cycle. Girls the the tendency become attention whores when they are given attention, attention whores cause the male anons to lash out when gender is mentioned, causing girls to mention their gender. A good medium is if no one gives a shit who posts. If the few attention whores are saged and reported (you guys know how to properly tell others to gtfo) they will leave. That way if someone wants to talk about... I don't know, Otome VNs, then the thread doesn't have to derail about girls on /jp/ hurrr. Unless of course you meant putting a sign on ronery threads, then eh that's fine.

>>2407306
Well if it's confidence in general then it's got nothing to do with relationships. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I hate women with confidence.

I want a shy, clumsy virgin. Preferably with glasses. Also, no fat chicks.

>>2407240
>Every male in this thread would give up their virginity at the drop of a hat.

I, for one, would stay faithful to the types of women I love. Pic related.

>>2407273

I really hope you're just trolling us and those aren't actually your legs.

Can we go back to talking about why we're all losers?

The very term 'confident woman' has been subverted. It used to mean self-confidence. Now it just means women who go out and get rat-assed on booze and spread their legs for the first guy to whisper sweet nothings in their ear.

>>2407317
no,I'm not a troll ¬¬

>>2407318
I dare say we're still on that topic. Complaining about un-pure women isn't exactly winner talk.

yall niggers posting in a troll thread

Mmmm, the virgins only thing is a bit extreme but it does bother/sicken me to think another man's been in the woman I am with. I just try not to think about it any more.

>ITT butthurt people because are bitter ronery virgins.

HAHAHA OH WOW

>>2407318

This.

Please? Forget about the girls. They're just angry they're not part of it. Whenever they see something that males have made to have fun they want to join in, but they dont realise they are ruining it by doing so. We /jp/ers really need a place that we can truly call a "gentleman's club" in the fullest sense of the words.

But to get back to the point, I think I first realised I was a loser when I would start to actively turn down opportunities to go out.

>>2407327
What are you doing on /jp/?

>>2407334
>ITT butthurt people because are bitter ronery virgins.

ITT Master of the English language.

When I started playing vidia?
After I was bullied so hard that I - for the first time in my life - considered sucide?
When I was lying in my bed and started to cry for no reason?
This days were nothing but milestone on the way.

The day I realized I'm a horrible person was the day I realized why I like CP. Little girls are cute and all but what really gets me off is the domination. The whimpering and crying when daddy sticks his cock up their ass. CP is the only real rape porn out there.
I'm part of the worst of society, getting joy from the suffering of others. Why would anybody - especially a female - love me for what I am?
Myself, I can't really imaging it. Even when I fantasize or dream about getting affection from a woman it's never because she truly loves me but because either the circumstances or people even more vicious than me are forcing them.
Sadly, this is what I'm really longing for. Someone who loves me and knows my faults but realizes that I'm still human and not a monster.
I don't think having a girlfriend will make my problems disappear and my life perfect, but it would be nice to know that there is a person who is on my side when I'm alone against the rest of the world.

I say we welcome acceptable, level-headed women types onto our board. The more we convert to our hobbies and mannerisms, the better. A girl who can also love the loli is the best.

>>2407337
I lurk on /b/ all the time, but i'm bored so I've been lurking in /a/, c/, etc.

>>2407353
Get the fuck out.

>>2407353

Women who browse /b/ are the sluttiest of the sluts. Don't think we want to see your tits and fuck off back there slut.

>>2407346
>CP is the only real rape porn out there
Most of the CP I've seen, the girl likes it

>>2407353
I'm a pretty desperate and ronery loser and would take any slut that would accept me but even I wouldn't touch anything from /b/.

>What was the exact time and date that you became a loser?

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Oh, /jp/...

Never change.

several factors doomed me

- From birth to about first grade, I spoke nothing but Japanese. Then I got tossed into an all english speaking elementary school and learned basic english within a month to communicate. At this time I had a few core good friends.
- The entire second grade year I had no friends at my public school, I had a few friends at my Japaense language school, which I only went to on saturdays.
- Third grade, I have no friends for the first half of the year and I find one.
- 5th through 7th grade, said new friend abandons me, and I quit my japanese language school during my sixth grade year due to having my only friend get expelled and a group of asshole kids bullied me.
- All of highschool I have no real friends, just people who I eat lunch with. (I'm silent 99.99% of the time).

...and all I want to do now is to get away from this country, which I associate with nothing but shit, and go live in Tokyo, where I'm somewhat better at being social.

>>2407318
But I'm not a loser. In fact, I'm a pretty cool person that just happens to have anti-social tendencies. There's a difference. Where do these tendencies come from? Well, I guess life just wore me down. No no, that's not it...

What was it again? Well, if I have to point to something, then I'll point to the 'forgotten' incident. Imagine reuniting with someone important to you only to have them not remember who you are. Hurts, Anon. Then again, antisocial tendencies are just a tiny part of my personality. Being cool is much more encompassing.

>>2407347
>level-headed women

Doesn't exist.

>>2407318
One more thread ruined by retarded trolls pseudo mysoginists.

>>2407361
>>2407357
You are wrong, but, well, I saw that coming, I mean, you don't talk to any girls, right?

I don't came here to show tits, etc, etc, I don't like it and I hate when they ask for those kind of pics. Yes there are a lot of camwhores on /b/, but remember, they need to feel better with themselves by showing their bodies.

I just go to /b/ to laugh a little bit, that's all. i don't look for hook ups or casual sex with strangers.

>>2407371
Expecting virgins is one thing, but that? Wait why am I replying to a troll?

>>2407353
Okay, even as another girl I'm going to have to ask you kindly to leave. You posting a photo got me worried enough.

ON TOPIC:
I knew I was done when mom asked me why I never call my friends and I told her it was because they never call me. Though I half lied, it was also because I just couldn't will myself to do it. Shyness is crippling.

>>2407369
It happens the same thing to me

>>2407368
>All of highschool I have no real friends, just people who I eat lunch with. (I'm silent 99.99% of the time).

Why is it that I hear about these kinds of loser kids all the time, yet I never once saw anybody like that besides myself? I was the only one without a clique in my class, but I didn't really get bullied because I'm not a faggot.

>>2407383
why?

>>2407395
WHITE KNIGHT DETECTED

>>2407383
>because they never call me.
Haha. I've never made a casual phone call in my life. Same with those instant messaging devices. I've only recently learned that that tends to bother people. On the bright side, I almost always return messages.

>>2407318
We're losers because we're lazy and we're lazy because we lost hope in seeing anything good happen to us. The reason we are like we are is, a lot of the time, becaue we simply dont think we deserve anything better than this, hence the almost malicious self-deprecation we engage in. The laughter helps cure those feelings of worthlessness, if only for a while.

I suppose society is to blame too, we were raised on several ideals, one of which was that you will meet a sweet, kind girl and you'll both fall in love. Some of us kept on believing this for too long, and too late we realised that this simply wasnt the case and that in lieu of any such romantic tendencies there was a 'game' to be played with competing 'players' for girls affections (read: sex).

Basically, we fucked up, but we fucked up gloriously. We're the product of a confused age, an age that demands equality for women but bemoans the effeminate nature of modern western man, an age in which you are taught to walk on eggshells around them while they demand dominance from you in other respects.

It's impossible to counterract this if you have a tendency to mythologize. To paint disney-esque images of girls as maidens and whatever.

I mean, we're losers, but fucking hell - lets not go down without a fight. Lets stick two fingers up to biology itself, cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!

>>2407369
>Imagine reuniting with someone important to you only to have them not remember who you are.

Explain?

>>2407395
The reputation of what no girls there are on /jp/ is unstable enough, and even the slightest chance of making this terrible board worse isn't worth taking.

>>2407392
Japanese bullying is more psychological. They do everything to exclude, isolate, and pester you. I endured this for about 4 years until I mentally broke, every day was just miserable from then on. My friend getting expelled finally made it too unbearable to even stay at that shitty school.

>>2407380
I happen to talk to this one normal girl a lot. I believe she's had sex before. At least she's smoked weed. I've done neither. I like her, but I'm not quite sure how she likes me, but she had me come along for a walk outside in the sun yesterday.

So fuck off back to /b/.

Most of us simply have nothing on our hands, no ambitions, no dreams, we just want to find some spot in the society, sit there and wait for our life to end.
We don't expect nothing from others and we want, we pretend, from others not to expect anything from us, we just want to be left alone, we've been rejected in some way or another, this left a mark on our mind and we don't want to experience the same thing again.

>>2407401
>We're losers because we're lazy and we're lazy because we lost hope in seeing anything good happen to us. The reason we are like we are is, a lot of the time, becaue we simply dont think we deserve anything better than this, hence the almost malicious self-deprecation we engage in. The laughter helps cure those feelings of worthlessness, if only for a while.
This is why I'm not a loser. If anything, I have a superiority complex.

>>2407403
how can I say that you're not a girl? I mean, we are anonymus,so? Why does gender is such a big deal?

>>2407380

Leave us alone, we dont want to be looked down upon by non-virgin women.

>>2407401
Pfft. Society didn't make me like this; I am a loser of my own making.

>>2407410
protip: people are VERY good, and enthusiastic (though they might lie about it) at segregating themselves.

The day I stopped playing piano.

But I decided to start again after like 10 years so AIN'T NO BIGGIE, MAN!
It's easy if you are me.

>>2407401
I HATE that whole "walk on eggshells" thing. I don't give a crap if some guy wants to know my weight or thinks those jeans make my butt look big, or whatever the hell. Fuck.

>>2407405
Not anyone you were discussing things with, but how did you meet her if I may ask?

>>2407408
Superiority complexes are just advanced forms of inferiority complexes. We've convinced ourselves we are so utterly right, that we are the last sane ones left.

That is why we are glorious in a way. We are the truest manifestation of the underground man.

I have an inferiority complex. I don't think I'm good enough for anyone. I just want to feel like someone wants to talk to me too ;_;

>>2407412
I'm not making fun of you and I really don't care if you're virgins or not, ppl make such a bid deal out of it. You'll do it someday.

I didn't know the rules, so? Why do you have to be like this? I always respect ppl.

Where the fuck are all you friendless faggots at university anyway? I never _see_ any of you.

DONT YOU DARE SAY ANIME CLUB!

>athens talking for all of /jp/
Now it's gotten really bad

>>2407433
P- please my friend... spell out your words fully. Really just lurk more.

>>2407436
We're in our dorms, we run the fuck out of lecture as soon as it's done and lock ourselves in.

I've been a loser my entire life, although through most of public school I was relatively social, probably enough to be considered a normalfag by /jp/.

The moment when I became completely sure I would be alone forever came in my second year of college. I typed up a tl;dr post about it but realized I can sum it up in fewer words: I decided that I would seriously try to find a girlfriend, found a girl I liked who probably liked me too, but I just couldn't make a move because of my social ineptness and lack of experience. That was when I realized that even if I put effort into it ultimately I'm much too introverted for any significant social interaction.

>>2407436
In my apartment, I don't think any self-respecting /jp/sie actually goes to anime clubs.

>>2407436
Blending in with some bunch of kids who I kinda like, and seem to like me, but never invite me to anything or include me in examples about the "group".

>>2407437
On matters of ronery, athens is usually right. He even dropped the "women can't be ronery" thing.

>>2407438
whatever¬¬

>>2407422

can i ask you a pertinent question?

why are women so obssessed with sex?

>>2407436
>Where the fuck are all you friendless faggots at university anyway? I never _see_ any of you.
I skipped most of my lectures this term.

>>2407440
God it was like this for my first year too (it's like this now but I live off campus now so it's different).

It was surreal in a way, I'd go to lectures, I'd take my notes and I'd literally just go back and sit on the computer.

Oh GitS...

>>2407424
I moved into my dorm apartment last year after summer (just started university for the second time). So by moving from one end of my tiny country to the capital I went from having a local friend and knowing people around me, to knowing no one.

She moved into the dorm apartment across the hall about a month after me, and we talked for a while when we met in the shared kitchen.
I managed to not freak her completely out, but she called me weird and couldn't really relate to how I don't have any friends.

>>2407456
Was that the episode with the guy and his android waifu who escaped into some forest?

>>2407456
Taken somewhat out of context, but still.
>>2407436
Living at home, only showing up for tests.

>>2407448
I don't know. Why are humans obsessed with sex? I'm kind of an oddball and don't really think about it that much. Really I find men more perplexing, after hearing so many stories about what you guys did when you were thirteen. God damn, I was too worried about playing in the woods and making things in the sand.

>>2407368
>From birth to about first grade, I spoke nothing but Japanese.

Japs on /jp/? You don't exist.

Anyways, a pic from a great series for you guys.

Don't any of you see any kind of positives or redemption in our lifestyles though?

One guy brought up the whole thing about how male friendship tends to be the strongest kind, I'd be inclined to agree with that at least.

I have absolutely no goals, and I don't think I ever have. In college I just kind of picked a degree that seemed easy/made good money, but my social awkwardness has kept me from getting a job. I don't want a job, but I get harassed about it all the time.

I'm fine living every day like this. I don't want a job. I don't want to change the world. I just want to live.

>>2407463
From the movie Innocence, I believe.

>>2407437
I just happened to have blocked athens posts.

These 200-post limits really need to be done away with.

I realize it every day in every moment.

I recently met a girl who seemed to like me...well, it was very obvious actually, even to complete strangers. After stepping around it and thinking of what to do for a while...I got over my social ineptness and asked if she would like to do something with me.

Her reply: too busy for the next few weeks. Half of them I could believe (exams, work, tutoring etc) but I can't believe someone would be so busy that they couldn't spare a day...

I feel like an idiot for venturing out and putting effort into any of this.

Sage for relationships9000 bullshit.

>>2407474
The hell is that?

I thought I'd seen every anime by now. Maybe I just don't remember it.

>>2407465

How old are you?

>>2407436
In my room in my off-campus apartment playing VNs. I do show up for classes but I'm usually the only quiet loser there.

>>2407488
Bartender.

>>2407490
21.

>>2407491
Do you live on your own off campus? Sometimes I wish I would have made that choice....

>>2407495
Eh, I thought Bartender sucked shit once the hype died down after the first episode aired.

Is it actually worth watching?

>>2407401
>Explain?
It's a childish thing that's too far back to really matter, but for the sake of storytelling, I'll fulfill your request.

I'm a foreigner in this country. Sure, I already came here before even making my first memories, but my family was pretty poor so we didn't really have access to all those crazy multimedia devices. Because of that, I entered kindergarten knowing only the language of the motherland and nothing else. There was this one other student though that spoke my language so we became pretty close friends. Outside of my immediate family, this was the only person that helped me around and helped me adapt. We would play, chat, and do all of those crazy kid things. Unfortunately, kids are always moving around so we pretty much lost contact after first grade.

I pretty much stumbled around the school a bit afterward, but thanks the previous help, I was able to get out of ESL and was able to actual talk with my American classmates. One day, while walking to class in my new school, I reunited with this person and like you could guess, I enter a state of 220% concentrated bliss. I went up to the person and started talking, asking, and doing all that basic reminiscing stuff, but all I got back was an odd stare and the person left. Looking back, it's a silly story and I could understand it, but it really doesn't take away the original feeling of disappointment. Oh well. Life moves on.

A little late, but I typed it so I'm posting it!

>>2407501
How's that house-mate thing going, by the way?

>>2407474
>One guy brought up the whole thing about how male friendship tends to be the strongest kind, I'd be inclined to agree with that at least.
Depends on the people involved. I think that you may be making a couple of mistakes with that statement:
- neglecting to think of the majority of male friendships (pretty shallow)
- thinking only of literature in which male friendship is a prevalent theme

I don't understand why people willingly get dorms.

Sure, the single off-campus apartment/dorm costs a little more, but it's a hell of a lot better than living with some random kid 24/7.

I'm happy to walk a little further to classes if it means I can fap/anime/VN/4chan without giving a shit about a roommate seeing or hearing it.

>>2407436
I used to just stay in my dorm all day but I eventually decided to move to a university closer to home so that I could save money on housing since I never really ended up talking to anyone on campus anyways.

>>2407504
Bartender is pretty good. You should definitely try it.

>>2407474
Oh god that is my future.

But yeah I can see the good things in this lifestyle. I would choose this life over a "normal" one simply because I don't feel compelled to jump through any hoops. It's nice not to have to worry about social expectations, but unfortunately those expectations are necessary to meet even if you only want a minimum of social interaction (like a few friends and a significant other). Usually I'm happy spending my time on video games and visual novels, only rarely do I experience ronery moments. It would be even better if I still had the creative urge to write and make music because then maybe I would have some purpose in my life.

>>2407522
I'm the "Japanese guy", so they don't really question anything I do since I'm fulfilling my stereotype.

>>2407508
Like everything else, this depends entirely of the persons involved.

Nothing beats a true bro who's always down.
Fuck those bustas who hang out and watch The Fast and The Furious 2 while drinking shitty beer before going to a club to find some hoes to fuck.

>>2407504
I like episodic stuff like Mushishi which have a very subtle overarching narrative, so I really enjoyed it. It's dependent on taste as ever. Some of the subplots are awesome, like the one with the businessman who lost everything ;_;

>>2407506
Eh, my housemates will always be annoying. Have we discussed this before by the way?

>>2407508
Agreed mostly. What literature specifically though?

Female friendship sounds awful from what I've heard.

As a sidenote, anonymous needs to read some Heamingway. Here's a choice extract from The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber:

>…[Wilson] had seen men come of age before and it always moved him. It was not a matter of their twenty-first birthday.

>It had taken a strange chance of hunting, a sudden precipitation into action without opportunity for worrying beforehand, to bring this about with Macomber, but regardless of how it had happened it had most certainly happened. Look at the beggar now, Wilson thought. It’s that some of them stay little boys so long, Wilson thought. Sometimes all their lives. Their figures stay boyish when they’re fifty. The great American boy-men. Damned strange people. But he liked this Macomber now. Damned strange fellow. Probably meant the end of cuckoldry too. Well, that would be a damned good thing. Damned good thing. Beggar had probably been afraid all his life. Don’t know what started it. But over now. Hadn’t had time to be afraid with the buff. That and being angry too. Motor car too. Motor cars made it familiar. Be a damn fire eater now. He’d seen it in the war work the same way. More of a change than any loss of virginity. Fear gone like an operation. Something else grew in its place. Main thing a man had. Made him into a man. Women knew it too. No bloody fear.

>>2407436
Library, class, dorm room. I'd be surprised if anyone can find me.

>>2407436

Eating by myself, sitting on my laptop by myself in the computer labs. No one talking to me, no one paying attention to me. Stuidying alone.

That's where I am on campus

There's anime dudes in my japanese class and other classes, sometimes I'll be sitting behind them while they're talking about some shit shows that just got dubbed and I don't even raise an eyebrow in their direction.

>>2407501
No. I have roommates, two guys who lived next to me in the dorms last year. They're both pretty much normalfags but they aren't bad. One is the only person I regularly speak with (usually about video games, anime, or school shit) and the other I rarely speak with but I'm pretty sure he dislikes me for some reason.

We're not living together next year but I'm sure I'll have to share an apartment next year too, just because it's too expensive otherwise.

>>2407522
A dorm is the cheapest option for me. No roommates, thankfully.
I wasn't very optimistic about the whole shared kitchen thing at the start, but that changed about 2 months after the girl I mentioned in >>2407460 moved in.

>>2407533
>Have we discussed this before by the way?
Yeah. But not all that detailed stuff. Just the annoying part.

January 23 2006, when the girl I was madly in-love with suddenly invited some random "friend" over, when it was just me, her, and a couple of other friends about to watch that shitty movie "Hostel."

Guy came in to her house driving a 2000-ish Mercedes SLK. While I don't even own a shitty car, nor had a job back then. That time, me and said girl were only 18.

Movie was up, they both sat together, while me and the rest sat on the back row right behind them. Instead of the movie, I watched them flirt with each other for the course of 94 minutes.

I was trying to court her for almost a year, and even made progress. Then this dude just managed to snag her literally 3 days after they first met, which was the night we went out.

That was the night I realized that patience and hard work mean shit. So here I am now with a shitty part time job, still in college, and wasting my life away by spending countless hours on the internet and playing videogames.

>>2407505
That's really sad. I have a similar story though I never bothered to speak to the guy in question.

The really ronery guys are refreshing this thread over and over hoping for a reply to their comment(s)

>>2407533
>Agreed mostly. What literature specifically though?
It was a guess at your thoughts more than anything; I didn't have anything specific in mind.

>Female friendship sounds awful from what I've heard.
Also depends. Going by the majority, yes.

>>2407554
This.

I'm realizing now even more how much of a loser I am...in a thread aimed at losers on /jp/ nobody will give me any response.

>>2407554
Of course. This is the only social interaction I'll get all day unless I run into the girl who lives across the hall in the kitchen.

>>2407563
Heh, same here...I don't have any social interaction aside from the girl I speak with at work.

>>2407533
I love Hemingway and that story. Macomber found out what it truly means to be a man.

>>2407549
Yeh, that's another thing. What's the point even at the end of the day when things like that happen? Maybe I'm just making excuses, but I kind of believe in fate in a way.

>>2407554
You know you're a loser when you're refreshing this thread even after it's past the bump limit.

Maybe it's for the best since it keeps the trolls at bay.

>>2407549
>>2407569
For some reason, all this story says to me is "wrong girl".

>>2407560
Where is your post?

>>2407556
Personally I'm really skeptical when dealing with female friendship. I read a story today in the papers about how cruel an all female workplace is.

I cant believe women are this catty with one another. Dont they have hobbies outside of 'snagging a man'?

>>2407567
Pity about the end ;_;

>>2407563
Are you going to do anything about the fact that you like her?

>>2407583
Most people want to, but they don't have the courage or know how to start.

>>2407576
The thing is with that... I've read too many stories on /r9k/ of guys who found their 'perfect shy and quiet nerdy girl' only to end up being cheated on and stuff like that.

It isn't worth putting all your chips on one person unless you have shared experiences of what it truly means to be totally alone. Which is very rare as far as females go unfortunately.

This whole thread is sickening. This is why most of /jp/ will never socialize, this negativity is one of the causes that you become like this, not video games.

Heck I used to be like you , some months ago I tried to make the difference, I started using some things to feel positive and confident, and it worked, I talked during with other people and I some girls introduced themselves, I was invited to birthday parties etc...

After reading this thread I feel like I'm having withdrawals, for fuck sake 4chan stop ruining my life.

If you guys want to break from this chain reaction you must start to feel confident(and there's the problem, I did it with hypnosis and recorded my own positive self talk to hear later) , then when your confident all your perception changes, you only see good in most people, the real rotten people will never shine in your eyes, but you can see the sparkle in most of normal people, even non-virgin girls, you stop seeing them as whores (unless they are always clinging to cocks and boys)

>>2407575
I find, threads past bump limits have more people like us. And thus more relate able.

>>2407528

Do you want to become an academic or something?

>>2407553
Not really that sad. People aren't obligated to remember you. They have the right to move on after all. Memories are simply things to look back on and smile at. Nothing more.

It's a pity I'll never take that last bit to heart though. I guess it's just part of the 'always waiting' package that I've picked up. Makes me useless half of the time, but they're moving on and finding better things; I should be happy.

>>2407549

Most of the time, just simply meeting the "wrong girl" can instantly lead a man to his downfall.

>>2407582
here
>>2407483

I'm not expecting any advice, though. There are many more details than what I wrote, and this isn't the board/place for it...but even a nice "Take this shit to /r9k/" would have sufficed...

>>2407588
>Seeing good in people
This is impossible for me, I'm a minority within a minority within a minority within a minority. (literally) I grew up hating everyone else, and there are so few people that are like me that I hate everyone else.

>>2407582
>Pity about the end ;_;
Yeah, but in that short span of time he lived more and better than most people do in their entire lives.

>>2407483
What exactly were her excuses?

And what are you attracted to in her? Shared interests and all that?

>>2407582
>I can't believe women are this catty with one another. Don't they have hobbies outside of 'snagging a man'?
The majority? Not really. They make friends in order to have someone to make noise with/at. Noise composed of regurgitated sentiments about that which is currently popular, boys, drama, etc. Not all are that catty, but neither are they loyal; as soon as a boy comes along he takes priority.

That's the majority though, there are exceptions. Strong female friendship is something I find extremely beautiful.

You feel guilty for the way you are
&
You wish you were stupider, so you can be like everyone else

>>2407583
I think I'll get to know her better before I start making moves. It's going to be my first move towards anything relationship related with a girl in almost 22 years.

I've installed Office 2007 on her computer and she asked me over to watch a movie, but canceled the same night because she had to study for a report she's writing. She sent me two messages explaining random stuff and hoped I'd understand. I'm a fairly simple guy, but I know I tend to overanalyze these things inside my quiet self.
I'll see how it works out.

>>2407588
I don't know about everyone else, but I don't WANT to be a normalfag like you. I enjoy the isolation, /jp/ is all the socializing I need.

Sure, I'd like to have a girlfriend, but realistically all signs point to no because my standards are too high, I don't have a car or job, and I'm simply not social. Right now I'm just worried about keeping my GPA up before I lose my finaid.

>>2407604
It's true. Probably one of the greatest metamorphoses in all of literature simply because it happens so quickly and the effect on his bitch of a wife is so brilliant. I love the way she starts to get scared when he grows balls.

Like he literally says something when she tries to intrude on their conversation along the lines of 'stfu, the men are talking'.

>>2407587
This may seem like an unrelated question, but have you watched Marimite?

>>2407609
You should find all strong relationships beautiful, Anon.

>>2407588
I have enough self-confidence that I don't think badly of myself but apparently that's not enough. I value humility a great deal so I don't want much more confidence than I already have.

>>2407613

Haha, oh wow.

Sounds like mine.

Enjoy getting friendzoned.

>>2407612
I feel a bit guilty towards my parents, but other than that I try to avoid inconveniencing others as much as possible. As for wishing to be stupider, I played the whole "bored genius" stereotype throughout high school. Now I realize I'm not as smart as I thought.

I was once involved with this girl who regarded herself as a "weird nerdy type" and went after me for that reason.

I brought her to my room once and after that day she refused to talk to me, went around telling everyone at work I was some freak and a sex fiend. The self-proclaimed nerdy girls are the biggest normalfags ever and in the end they're only looking for another faker of equal or greater caliber.

>>2407609
I'm sure there are girls that are good friends, but I think for them to be truly good friends they need to have been quite 'odd' (relative to modern values, not rational ones) - grown up not obsessing over guys is one shared experience they'd have to have.

It's depressing how the only thing many girls talk about is their boyfriends. How can you define your entire existence by your partner?

>>2407588
I'm the real rotten people.

>>2407607
She's in high school (she just turned 18, I'm 21) and has exams coming up, work, and she tutors kids (all of which she has mentioned before). But, I just find it hard to believe that she can't give up one single day, when she'll spend one of her free days at the library from opening until closing.

I guess what drew me to her was that she approached me first, she's very easy to speak with, she has some direction in life and honestly it's been some of the most fun human interaction I've had in a long, long time.

Anyway, she said she'll let me know a week ahead of time when we can do something, but it sounds like an excuse. Maybe I'm paranoid because of past instances with friends, or maybe just because I distrust females in general.

My God, I hate the fact that I'm typing all of this up. It kind of disgusts me, to be honest...

>>2407619
I haven't watched it. Why? Would it be worth it?

>>2407642

No, its shit.

Only good yuri show is the one with porn in it.

>>2407630
The truth hurts.

I used to be in gifted classes until I just got lazy and stopped studying since I wanted to fit in with the other lazy kids in public school. Boy, did that bite me in the ass.

>>2407630
Most of us aren't genius' we're just not utterly stupid.. We realize things that the stupid people are too stupid to realize, and thus they are too stupid to be in despair for realizing.

also semi related. Some of us feel intellectually superior to others, then the same "intellectual" part of them tells them that they're arrogant for thinking that but they have a hard time really believing that they're as stupid as the people surrounding them. (whether true or not)

>>2407632
May I ask what you had in your room? I mean, was it really just figs and stuff or was there loli doujinshi lying around?

And it's kind of sad how so many of them get into our hobbies because it's 'chic' to be 'geek' I guess. But there are girls who genuinely like the stuff we enjoy out there, only problem is of that tiny minority most are insane or taken.

>>2407640
This might be cheesy, but make a list. Paranoia: Pros | Cons. Writing things out tends to highlight stupidity.

>>2407640

Bro, forget about her. Your situation sounds just like any other experience Anonymous posted that got them friendzone'd.

Did any of you actually -imagine- you'd end up 20something virgins though?

I can't say I ever did. It never crossed my mind, but it slowly crept up on me, and here I am.

>>2407657
I'm not 20 yet, but I have an odd conviction that I'll end up like you guys.

>>2407645
I remember being in the gifted math class back in elementary school. That might have caused an artificial confidence boost in my math skills as I slacked off throughout middle and high school. Now I'm 2 years behind where I really should be, awesome.

>Some of us feel intellectually superior to others, then the same "intellectual" part of them tells them that they're arrogant for thinking that but they have a hard time really believing that they're as stupid as the people surrounding them. (whether true or not)
I've literally spent hours second guessing myself like that, and haven't come to any reasonable conclusion.

>>2407627
At least I'll have a friend who seems to enjoy talking to me, so either way it can't be that bad.
I feel good in her company apart from when she asked me to say something in Japanese yesterday. That's a little weird for me.

>>2407654
Well, I don't quite understand it...
She has told me in a roundabout way that she likes me, has given me her phone number without me asking, among other things...

But I feel like I'm being friendzone'd.

>>2407652
This sounds like paranoia to you?

>>2407640
It depends on how she intoned it. Even so, I still wouldn't worry, dont believe this friend zone nonsense anyway, only sluts have a 'friend zone'. If she isn't a slut then just work at building your relationship with her, but dont become too dependable, and dont agree with everything she says, play devil's advocate when you need to and be a sympathetic ear at other times.

>>2407657
Nah, it's a gradual thing.

I watched too many harems when I was in high school and expected some tsundere girl to just fall in my lap if I sat around long enough. Before I knew it I was graduating, and now I'm in college and haven't even said hello to a female peer in longer than I can remember.

>>2407634
>I'm sure there are girls that are good friends, but I think for them to be truly good friends they need to have been quite 'odd' (relative to modern values, not rational ones) - grown up not obsessing over guys is one shared experience they'd have to have.
Agreed.

>It's depressing how the only thing many girls talk about is their boyfriends. How can you define your entire existence by your partner?
Depressing is an understatement.
There are many 'depressing' things about the average girl.

>>2407642
I was just going to use something they covered in one of the arcs as an example. I can't say whether I would recommend it to you or not.

>>2407622
I do, I just happen to have a slight bias.

>>2407615

There's a difference between us and a normalfag. Just because you talk with some that doesn't mean you're a normalfag yourself. Most of the people I talk now I don't give a damn about them, I can understande them better, and talk to them , but I don't care if they are my friends or not, I just struggle to find a girl that is almost as perfect as what I want and in the way I try to befriend people that aren't normal shits. Knowing people and having true friends aren't the same thing.

I also love isolation , but I'm trying to reduce it, I'll have days where I'm isolated just as I like and others that I'll socialize.

>>2407664

>I've literally spent hours second guessing myself like that, and haven't come to any reasonable conclusion.
I came to the conclusion that I'm at least in the upper zone of "normal" for realizing this and at least not a complete moron, but I feel stupid enough that I'd never call my self exactly "intelligent"/ I don't want to sound arrogant.

>>2407649

I don't own any pornography (at least back then), it was your typical otaku room. Your typical nerd chic girl has no idea about these sorts of things really.

I think the real nerd girls are like us and don't advertise, don't talk. They would never have the confidence to pursue someone they like much like us so ends never meet.

>>2407657
Never. Part of the reason for this is because, ironically enough, my father molly coddled me. Everything I wanted was handed to me and I usually got my own way.

That kind of treatment engenders false expectations, I assumed a girl would fall into my lap. After all, grades, money, friends and games consoles had, why not girls?

To my peril I learnt that you actually have to put work in. By then it was already too late.

>>2407664
Wow, you guys really are like me ;_;

As a side note, reading this thread while having the Mushishi soundtrack on is surreal.

>>2407670
She's not a slut...at least I don't believe so.

This is the part I didn't want to type up, but oh well.
She is Muslim (Somali to be exact) and wears a hijab. I'm mixed Jewish-Israeli/Indian, so I look like a "sandnigger".

Anyway, there are various reasons why I don't believe she is a slut and at the most has kissed before.

I'm not sure how she intoned it...a week and a half ago she said she would go with me to pick out new glasses, but when I asked if she was available next to go and look for glasses, get something to eat etc. she went with the busy for an undetermined amount of time answer.

I really don't understand.

>>2407680
Ah right, if it was just figs, manga, wall scrolls and so on, then I cant imagine what the problem would be.

I noticed recently actually I've started to become more sympathetic to virgin protagonists in manga, as in, I can't really relate if the protagonist is _too_ much of a normal.

I guess that's why I like Onizuka so much (was re-reading GTO recently).

>>2407657

I always regarded sex as something unbelievable and out of reach for me. Every time I seriously thought about the act of doing it, it blew my mind. "Wow, I get to take the girl and, just like, do anything I want to her? All this stuff? Unnngh oh god".

>>2407687
It's one of the reasons why I keep coming here.
It's heartwarming but scary in a way. Not the "oh shit, I'm gonna get raped" way. More in a "I'll at least try doing something for progress (however slow it may be) or else I'll end up killing myself" way.

>>2407642
It's about strong friendship between girls and it's really good. You seem to like slower paced shows so you'll probably enjoy it.

>>2407657
I assumed that I would lose my virginity before I graduated from high school. I would have never imagined otherwise, I even took it for granted that I my first time would be with one of the girls in my school and I used to alway wonder who it would be.

>>2407657
Of course. Why wouldn't it be? As long as he's not sitting on his ass for a decade, I think it's fine to wait around a bit.

>>2407657
Got one year to go, but I've never really thought about real sex so no. It's funny because I play porn games and collect porn manga. It's the 2D wall!

>>2407695

Her actual words retold to me through a former co-worker, "He has porn all over his bedroom walls".

>>2407657

I was never pre-occupied with "getting laid" in high school, so it was never a worry how long I would spend without sex.

I was actually annoyed with the pre-occupation, all my friends in high school as they grew up talked about video games and such less and started talking about pursuing girls more. I started to relate to them less and less, I wanted to keep on talking about video games and going to LANs.

>>2407674
Someone else brought this up but it's a valid point. To the anons who have trouble talking to ANYONE, someone who can make friends (but not necessarily date someone) appear to be normalfags. I don't know if that really fits in with the idea of what exactly a normalfag is, but the point still stands.
>>2407677
Sound arrogant to who? ;_; I don't know if it's good or bad that we try and appear modest even to ourselves.
>>2407657
Gradually realized it. From as long back as I can remember, the other kids at school were taking an interest in girls (even in elementary school for god's sake). For whatever reason, I wasn't as interested in it and just sort of ended up how I am now.

>>2407693
Dude, if she's Somali Muslim it's probably because she's quite conservative towards the idea of having a boyfriend. So dont worry, I doubt it is anything personal. Some girls are just as petrified of it all as guys.

>>2407693

We've all been there. Your loss bro.

Just don't think about it too much.

Doing so will lessen the impact if you do end up "just as friends." Or if by some chance she becomes your girlfriend, you won't see it coming that you'll be feeling giddy for days.

Win-win situation.

>>2407692
Holy shit, I'm also listening to the Mushishi OST.

It really is a small world.

>>2407693
Might not be true, but its a viable option.
She had several people on her mind and someone she favored more bit her bait.

>>2406846
I consider myself deadbeat and without perspective, and a loser, but not by your standards.
At least not completely.

>>2407716
Eh, the thing is...she's told me that she's had one boyfriend/one date before.

One who she broke things off with because he started to date her cousin, and the other was only one date and he never contacted her again.

So I'm wondering why I can't even get a date...

In regards to the virginity thing, did you guys realize it was kind of incremental, like, you were slowly but surely being left behind?

For me it crept up slowly, gradually... I first started shitting bricks when guys who I normally wouldn't have expected to get girlfriends started getting girlfriends.

>>2407711
>Someone else brought this up but it's a valid point. To the anons who have trouble talking to ANYONE, someone who can make friends (but not necessarily date someone) appear to be normalfags. I don't know if that really fits in with the idea of what exactly a normalfag is, but the point still stands.
Not the anon you're replying to, but I think that's a pretty narrow-minded view of 'normalfag'.

>>2407727
Probably trepidation or something like that, I honestly think if you hold back you'll have a shot further down the line.

My only good quality is my intelligence. If I ever found out I wasn't that smart, I don't know what I'd do.

>>2407731
Left by who exactly? My world is incredibly small.

>>2407740
Hold back in what ways exactly?

You know, I never thought you would be giving me this type of advice heh...

>>2407721
Put on Tsuyu wo Suu Gun. What a track.

>>2407709
Did you ever end up speaking to her again, and what were her 'nerdy interests', generic stuff or any higher level stuff?

>>2407720
I'll try not to think about it too much, but then comes the feelings of self loathing and shame for all of this effort...

>>2407731

I had this friend since grade 5 and he went to the same High School as me, we graduated together and more or less went our seperate ways.

Less then a year ago I heard from a mutual friend that he was getting married that weekend, and he invited me to the wedding. I said to that mutual friend that I was busy with work.

I think that's the point where I realized just how much everyone else have become adults except for me.

>>2407742
You should really stop caring about it. The 'am I smart?' question has little to no impact on your life. The only thing that matters is what you do. There a lots of 'smart' people who don't do anything and there's a lot of not so 'smart' people that grind their way to success.

>>2407751
It is, it almost brought me to tears once because it reminded my of CB's ending for some reason.

God I'm a faggot.

>>2407750
Work on your platonic relationship with her. Try again in a month's time, if she doesnt agree then, then you know she doesnt want a relationship for whatever reason. But look on the bright side, you at least have a good female friend, you have no idea how I would want someone at least to talk to, especially a girl, at uni after working on 4 3000 word essays in a single week, staying up all night etc.

Haha, and I never imagined it either to be honest. This is all entirely theoretical of course. But it's grounded in some fair rationale.

>>2407751

She played her brother's xbox games every now and then and the only FPS she played was halo (this was quite a few years ago).

>>2407735
I tried thinking about it from their perspective, and I can sort of understand. Although I agree it's narrow (there's a pretty big leap from having a few friends to going out and parting with your broskis), I don't suffer from crippling shyness, just misanthropy.

>>2407762
While you are correct, I think you do not understand how crucial 'intelligence' is to some people's identities. If you've grown up with 'smart' as part of the way the world defines you, having doubts about your intelligence is unsettling.

>>2407742
lol

>>2407731

Yes same here. I'm 26 years old, my cousin just got out of high school and she's fucking engaged already.

My parents divorced a couple years ago, and even my 60 year old father has a new girlfriend now. What the hell.

When I found out how to use IRC without it I wouldnt have found 4chan

>>2407474

Also Athens I just want to say that I really love this image considering my future career path.

>>2407743
People around you who you never would have imagined getting girlfriends and having sex. It was like they changed overnight and left you behind, you truly feel like a child when that happens. It's like 'holy shit, this guy is going back to his room every night... and having sex.... what the hell am I _doing_ with my life?'

>>2407731
I thought it would happen naturally so I didn't start worrying about it until the very end of high school. And yeah it was odd when friends of mine started getting girlfriends and having sex.

>>2407757

Why do you feel like that ? Just because he rushed to marriage ?

IMO marrying in your 20s is madness only encouraged by society. What can you hope to accomplish with your life if when you're 25 you already have the responsibility of sacrificing yourself for your wife and children ?

IMO that's not growing up , it's following society norms. Wait until some years from here he only feels regret.

>>2407731
(incoming boring life story)
I moved right before entering middle school. Showed up in a small town where everyone had know each other since kindergarten. Anyway, we had one of those "get to know your classmates, force people to be friends" activities on the first day of class. The guy I met was more than a bit weird. He was a nerd like I, but the most outgoing and open person I had ever met. Ended up being friends with him throughout middle and high school. During that time I learned not only was he completely open, but he had no shame. He would talk to people of both genders about anything, from his favorite video games, to his preferences in porn. He would randomly do things like wear make up, or bring a wooden sword and shield to school. I'm finding it difficult to even remember the things he did, he was just that kind of crazy guy. When I learned he had a girlfriend if was one of the biggest shocks I can think of.

>>2407783
Interesting. I looked down on people who were rushing into sex.

>>2407765
Thank you for the advice. It does all seem fairly well grounded, so I'll give it a shot.

I'll let you know how things go, if you would like.

Why would you want someone just to speak with though? For myself that's not enough really, there has to be some sort of affection (no, I'm not in it for sex).

I share an apartment with my friend from high school who's also a virgin at 20+. The difference is that he has a car, a job, and friends, and he's pretty normalfaggy aside from the occasional anime. He's also pretty addicted to videogames and plays WoW religiously with me, albeit I keep my door closed and don't really talk to him since I'm socially retarded and he knows it.

Am I taking this friendship for granted?

>>2407791

Following the norms of society is pretty much how children become adults.

He might have kids, he might get divorced and have to pay child support, those are also normal things. I'll still be the same though, I'll still be playing video games and watching anime like I'm still 16.

I also never say that I envy him. I do not regret being this way and I still hate how women change friends.

>>2407782
Yeh, academia is kind of selfless in a way, there should be more love romantic love stories in literature, film and TV about academics, it's an untapped resource.

>>2407770
Oh wow.

>>2407775
Oh, I understand. I've gone through the whole doubting my doubts thing. It was incredibly maddening, but one day, I took a step back and asked myself why I care. It turns out that I don't. The whole intelligence thing was just a deadweight. A shallow deadweight that explains nothing. Why would I want something like that attached to my identity?

>>2407782
What's your future career path?

>>2407800
Because I have nobody at university and it drives me insane sometimes.

>>2407770
>She played her brother's xbox games every now and then and the only FPS she played was halo
Swap halo for an earlier Bungie FPS and she might've passed.

>>2407802
>I'll still be the same though, I'll still be playing video games and watching anime like I'm still 16.
As will I, and I'll be loving every minute of it. Come to think of it, both of my uncles turned out exactly like that and my mother always said I'm similar to them. I look forward to when my sister marries and has I child so I can be the cool uncle who spoils kids and turns them into weeaboos.

>>2407810

Looking to become a historian, specifically in colonial history in Asia-pacific.

>>2407815
The quality of story shown in Marathon shines through in Halo occasionally actually. I've always been sympathetic towards it as a series though, something about the ambience of the music and the wierd classical/tribal nomenclature (names of the ships, places etc) really appeals to me.

Wow, this thread is on it's way to 400 posts. I expected the janitor to delete it right away.

What have I created?

>>2407783
Well, from that description, that has never happened to me. I don't think like that. The worst thing I've ever had to say about someone was probably 'annoying'.

>>2407807
>Oh, I understand. I've gone through the whole doubting my doubts thing. It was incredibly maddening, but one day, I took a step back and asked myself why I care. It turns out that I don't. The whole intelligence thing was just a deadweight. A shallow deadweight that explains nothing. Why would I want something like that attached to my identity?
Personally I think most have to go through that period of doubt in order to really feel that this is true.

Did anyone else grow up thinking that becoming an adult is the most disgusting thing ever? For me, from an early age (1 digit) I always thought that adults were hypocritical, dirty, self serving, and I observed that becoming an "adult" is just swallowing the lies and bullshit that society throws out you like a good dog. And now, I'm an adult, and I still feel the same way. All I ever feel is despair and the disgusting guilt that I'm becoming more and more like these people every day.

archive this shit

>>2407798
Probably. My roommate is the only person I talk to regularly (not sure if I would consider him a friend) but I'm moving out next year so I'll probably stop talking to people altogether. Even that little bit of social interaction is nice at times, like when I've had a shitty day and want to talk to someone.

>>2407823

I have 2 nieces and I wish it was that sort of relationship. They're all grown up too, one is having parties and fucking dudes and the other has a fake tan. I never did those sorts of things I can't relate with them, I'm probably the creepy uncle to them.

>>2407824
History's a tough field, but rewarding. And the thing is, it's pretty much like what is depicted in that pic. As I've said I've always found something alluring about academia in that respect, and it doesn't get much more academic in the traditional sense than historical scholarship.

I think it's probably more acceptable for girls to still be into anime at older ages.

Do any of you guys have any of those heartbreaking stories about girls whom you liked, who were really nice and everything, turning into sluts when they past a certain age?

>>2407827
While I agree that there was a similar feel to them, I don't think I would say that Halo's story is as fleshed-out or interesting as Marathon's. I enjoyed Halo because of the nostalgia it brought on more than anything.

>>2407827
I feel the same way. The first Halo in particular has some of the Marathon charm. The later games lost a lot of that though as Bungie became less like Bungie under Microsoft's influence.

>>2407798
Kind of. If he's a friend from high school and you're living with him, you should try to converse with him as much as you can. I've gone two years without talking to any of my roommates and I feel horrible about it. They're nice people (on the surface at least) and I'm just leaving them hanging. If you don't prod him around a bit, he might start thinking that he's done something wrong.

>>2407845
There shouldn't be an age limit for hobbies.

>>2407850
Sort of, but not really.

My friends all drifted away from me one by one as they got girlfriends, and eventually I was left eating at the cafeteria table by myself instead of with 8 other nerdy friends.

I think that's why I hate women to this day. Damn them all to hell. Bitches and whores.

>>2407843

My supervising professor looks as stereotypical as a historian can look but he actually has kids and shit (though divorced).

Still very much in the ivory tower academic mold though. I did sociology briefly a few years back and jesus are some of the academics total populist normalfags (especially the feminist studies staff).

>>2407850
In high school I liked this girl, she was a real Jesus freak though, and one day I heard her talking about how much she wanted to have sex with her boyfriend. It really turned me off.

>>2407873
Your friends ditched you for women, and you chose to blame the women? Hmm.

I used to raid Molten Core with my guild in WoW, and I'd talk on Vent and Teamspeak, it was alot of fun. The group slowly drifted apart, going to different guilds, then the expansions came out, etc. I really miss those times, it was fun to socialize while wiping on easy bosses and trash mobs over and over and over.

My guild was terrible, but I liked them.

So, who else wasted their entire night on this thread?

And to think I was actually going to get some studying done tonight. The damn birds are already chirping outside.

>>2407876
Oh yeah, many of them are married and stuff, but I mean, let me put it this way, when I used to go occasionally to anime club at university. A lot of the people there were phd students and jesus god almighty were they archetypal nerds.

The others are the more 'studious' type of nerd. Obviously though, and sadly perhaps, the female ones all seem to have boyfriends (phd students I mean).

It's not uncommon to be a virginal academic at all.

>>2407890
Me. It's 4 AM, not sleepy at all, will probably crash within a few hours.

>>2407850
Why?

>>2407890
Night? It's morning, Anon.
>07:08
I was going to go play a game, but yeah.

>>2407887
Yeh, I miss UO more, that was my first MMO.

But I miss WoW too. I only ever made it up to 60 but every true nerd should have some good MMO experiences that he can recount.

>>2407881
Yes?

They were teenage boys, it was easy to warp their minds and turn them into backstabbing normalfags. Women are the worst thing to happen to men. They corrupt our pure, noble spirits as they twist us with their invisible leashes.

I'm just glad I was spared from the brainwashing myself. I lost some good comrades in the process.

>>2407904
I never liked the social aspect of MMOs.

Earlier in this thread someone said that all-women workplaces are really cruel. This is absolutely true. About 90% of my department is women, and they're always pleasant and ask each other how their weekends were etc. to their face, but once they're gone they talk so much shit about each other behind their backs. Making fun of weight is really common.

Female friendship is a sham, they'd stab each other in the back without hesitation if it meant gaining a man.

>>2407890
Guilty as charged. I had intended to go watch a few LoGH episodes too. I could do that during the day, but for some reason all my hobbies are more enjoyable at night.

>>2407903
Same, I was going to play Persona 4. Now it's 7am and I'm too sleepy to start grinding.

Also, I just reminded myself of what a loser I am.

>>2407894

If your university has a feminist studies department I suggest that you should go and have a look at their post-grad students for a laugh over the contrast.

Bonus game: Count the piercings.

>>2407919
It's slow going for me with P4 too. I've only just beaten Shadow Yukiko.

>>2407890
Watching Hayate no gotoku OVa ep 2 now.

>>2407914
>but for some reason all my hobbies are more enjoyable at night.

So I'm not the only one who's like that.

Something about doing things in the dead of the night makes it more enjoyable. Once day comes around I get all depressed again.

>>2407908
Pretty skewed interpretation of adolescence you've got there.

>>2407890
Oh god I just realized I've been posting in this thread for nearly 4 hours. It was worth it though. Best off-topic/ronery/general thread in a long time.

>>2407927
May I join in as well?
I'm exactly the same...I save everything for the night. The few hours of pure silence are the best.

Everything at night is just more agreeable, I think.

>>2407922
Yeah, that's pretty far behind me. I'm following the max social links FAQ so everything takes twice as long for me, and I have an obsessive habit of always getting the perfect skills fused onto my personas.

A word of advice: make sure you have a Peach Seed on you before finishing Yukiko's Castle. You'll thank me later.

>>2407931
>It was worth it though. Best off-topic/ronery/general thread in a long time.

Definitely. I really enjoyed it.

>>2407910
Yeah, that was my biggest gripe with WoW. I met 1-2 people I could relate with, but the vast majority of players are idiots or children.
>>2407927
I can get away with some anime during the day (usually comedy series or something light), but VNs are out of the question. Those need to be played during the dead of night. It's strange too because my room is dark throughout the day, but I still have trouble getting in the proper mood.

>>2407919
No such thing as losers. Just cool people with antisocial tendencies.

>>2407927
Oh god, I love running through the streets late at night. There's just something oddly freeing about boldly zigzagging through intersections. Then again, that's not a hobby. Playing eroge is fine too.

>>2407939
I have thick black drapes over my windows to keep it dark 24/7, but I can still sense the sun outside during the day. Mocking me.

>>2407940
Walks in the dead of night are always nice, especially after/during a bit of rain.

>>2407940
>Oh god, I love running through the streets late at night
I do too, but it is not wise.

>>2407947
You guys are more like me then I've ever imagined.

This was a damn fine thread.

I think I just might fap to it before I finally go to bed.

I don't really have anything else to say, but I felt like posting this.