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>"If you don't like it, you should have remade the OP yourself" Edition

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to Windows 7.

Using GIMP to create a sprite or PCC? Select "do not write color space" and save it as a 24-bit BMP.

What version to play? Read the pastebin.

>New? Start here:
https://pastebin.com/FDv2ATAa

>Mods:
https://pastebin.com/5ja03yuf

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29851

>Elona+ Custom-G Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29336

>Current Version:
Elona+ 1.99 (2020-05-17)
>Latest Custom:
E+C 1.90.4 (2019-06-02)
Elona+ Custom-G 1.90.4.2 (2019-10-20)

>Omake Overhaul English Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:28909

>Current Version:
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (2019-06-17)
Omake Overhaul EN Hack final release (2018-12-14)

>Elin's Inn
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1moY3mcjFNPCytLFTdhgB0Xhnq2Bbt_yE/view

>> No.24004541

Previous Thread
>>23745931

>> No.24004707

> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OB1HSCVzX9zyPD_T2mxWbb6ylFehe2E0
Beautify updated for 1.99.

>https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LbRMoc7N37QtOQc-FcRnaIZV6zonnB1o
Lord Alfredo version for 1.99

Also saying it now. We need some fresh material to put together for the next OP image.

>> No.24006089
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Finding scrolls of name is painful.
Are they sold by invested in magic vendors ?
I forgot.

First levelup was 17%, after that it was two 8%.
Everytime, i needed to reroll the list around 23 times, feels somewhat static.
Next level up, i'll start from reroll 20 and see.
It'd speed-up the process immensely if the range where the attribute spawn is somewhat fixed.

>> No.24006157

>>24006089
It won't let me use scrolls of name on my shit at all.

>> No.24006175

>>24006089
Dropped by imps

>> No.24006369

>>24004526
Op sucks compared to the prehistoric and Middle age Op

>> No.24006460

>>24006089
Living weapons are static. The list of options rotates backwards based on level and enchant amount.

If you feel up to translating, this blog should have more details: http://mixednuts1kg.blog.fc2.com/blog-category-16.html

But I do know in jp they have a set of known titles that give good enchants, and some program were written that list exactly what will give what. There's even a spreadsheet floating around somewhere.

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>>24006460
Huh.
So basically, the list is static, but different for melee and ranged living weapons.
Page 97181 there's an uber magic enhance option.
You can choose which page you end up with using a blessed scroll of name, instead of autistically pressing enter dozens of times, restarting when you make a mistake. Like i was doing.
Ah, the list also change once you get the Ehekatl gem feat, which i don't have.

I'm going to test it next time i get the Ehekatl feat and a scroll of name, and report on it.
Guess it also means next wish is dedicated for a new justice weapon, since using the uber enchant the first time would straight up more than double my power.

Thanks for the link !
I guess i noticed the staticness of the list on my own, but no way i'd have ever known there's what i wanted on page fucking 97181. Holy shit how did he discover that !?

>> No.24009302

Trying out oomSEST, am I really supposed to stay naked since the naked defense thing is a lot more massive that what gear would provide until you've autism'd enough nice gear to match it?

>> No.24009978

>>24009302
If you do, you should really consider getting Inari's weapon, it gives immunity to all status.

I didn't do it personally, but i'm playing elea which have crappy baseline au naturel bonus.
It's a no brainer for fairies though, at least on paper.

>> No.24010089

I should focus on Ehekatl, but i couldn't resist when met an altar to 汐路のセリア.
...Celia of Rivers ?
She seems like a goddess of waterway trading.
There's no documentation, and her offerings are trade goods, barrels, ropes and ...buoy ?

>> No.24010937

>>24006369
We can't reuse those forever, but I do like telebungas. Still, we need new OPs made.

>> No.24013299

>>24006965
They discovered it by making a program to generate all possible title combos, exporting it to a spreadsheet, and sorting it by enchant strength. At least I think that's what it was, kinda hard to tell.

>>24009302

You just need to wait until you have good-ish gear. PV and DV are important, but enchants make or break builds.

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Anyone using ElonaExtender with oomSEST? I get this error sometimes when trying to drop items.

>> No.24016824
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>>24004526
>>Current Version:
>Elona+ 1.99
damn I've been out of the loop for a while, guess I have to read up the patch notes

>> No.24017603

I just found a living weapon and I’m not sure wether to go with the magic damage or magic resistance. What are the best stats for living weapons

>> No.24017703

someone post that webm of a user one shotting ehekatl with a giant thrown ball of shit

>> No.24019543

>>24016824
Something about this image really speaks to me.

>> No.24020310

I had cleared only up to level 20 dungeon before.
This time, i had a lot of stock of my spells, lot of potions, and decided fuck it, let's do that dungeon level 84 that's close-by.
One careful descent later, and killing the thankfully pushover mushroom boss, i conquered the dungeon.

...19 platinum coins.

I love oomsest.

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>>24017603
Plus or Oomsest? And what weapon? Either way, you can just use artifact fusion in both later to get your desired perfect equips with full res, so I would recommend getting pierce/enhances magic in it, besides the only limit for a living weapon in Oomsest is the number of your scrolls of name so go wild with it.
You only need to focus on chaos/mag res anyway against bosses.

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24022029

Celia's goodies are a pelican that shit out trade goods, a compass that i have no idea what it does, and a anchor(scythe), pic related.

導きの宝玉 is the name of the jewel, and there no hit on google. Or duckduckgo, kek
... Ok, forgive my retardation.
The flavor text plainly states what it does : remove bad whether.
120 hours cooldown, kinda cool, will leave in my 4D pocket.

>> No.24022060

>>24022029
Food blessed by Celia gives charisma and speed.
Ok, enough fooling around, time to take care of Eheromi.

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>>24022029
English version.

>> No.24024337

Can someone explain what all the bad blood is about between Elona Plus and some other variants? I played original, omake, and plus (all a long time ago), but when I check the wikis for some other mods I see traces of drama about being 'anti-plus' or 'anti-omake', but I don't really get why. What happened?

>> No.24024744

>>24024337
Probably just power tripping retards. I've never seen anything like that on the discord.

>> No.24026148

>>24024337
Plus is doing a full package, which is bad maneers.
Others variants are simply offering the files of the variants, while you have to download vanilla yourself.
Basically, plus is considered as somewhat akin to piracy, which is a big no-no in nipland.

Thank God for nyaa, poor nips they have nothing else.

>> No.24026242

>>24026148
Is that all? isn't elona free in the first place.

>> No.24026313

>>24024744
>>24026242

Apparently ano also is a pain to deal with in person. You can sorta see that a bit with things like the 100 plat and skill point cap, removing reloading, etc. But the language barrier prevents most of that from going anywhere. In jp, everyone is free to argue with ano in person.

>> No.24026595

>>24024337
Well, getting ticked off by Ano's dumb changes is why Omake's English translation and Custom-G exist, so I'd say a certain amount of "anti-Plus" is normal.
Occasionally a gaggle of retards will spam these threads and get yelled at; you can call that "anti-Omake" if you want, but it's more about their behavior in my opinion.

>>24026242
A lot of Japanese fully believe in the illusion of "intellectual property". In America the rule of thumb is "give credit and don't make money off it", but the rule in play here is apparently "personally contact the person responsible and ask their permission, and if they give it don't credit them".

>> No.24033880

I got a wish before taking care of Ehekatl, and couldn't resist testing page 97181.
There's a 18%(185) enchant there, so i guess the gem feat don't change the list, just the strength.

Damn i can't wait, need to take care of it today.

>> No.24034400

Do the new Alchemical Rain effect and new offensive alchemy skill make playing a character whose main focus is alchemy a viable option throughout endgame? Are there potions useful enough in the endgame for these to be good?

>> No.24034814

The wiki confuses me. Does the feat from the gem of Opatos actually reduce damage by 10% or not? And does it only work while worshipping Opatos?

>> No.24034967

>>24020310
We did it, reddit
Edit: Thank you for inseminating my wife

>> No.24036055

Is there a point with fished porn books in oomsest, aside from the infinite weak wisdom buff ?
It's spamming my inventory...

>> No.24036826

>>24010089
What version are you playing?

>> No.24036858

>>24036826
The latest, 20200519, from drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObWACccjqvaJLcXBfsH2tHEGaYfaD0S_

>> No.24037061

>>24036858
ah, sest. That explains why the goddess thing confused me. Apologies for asking what, in retrospect, was a pretty dumb question.

>> No.24037989

>>24034814
dunno about the mechanic itself , but all the feats stay with you even if you're a filthy betrayal who worships multiple gods

>> No.24038899

have someone moved elona from HSP yet?

>> No.24040374

>>24004526
Ok, pastebin anon here. Was dealing with IRL shit so I haven't kept up with everything as I should have. Also discovered that some assholes have gotten my ISP range banned or something so I can't post here easily.
Either way, I have updated the plus links to the latest.
Besides >>24004707 what else have I missed that needs to be added to the pastebins?

>> No.24040449

>>24034814
Essentially, ano split it up into 2 things. The race feat which gives you -1 damage taken. Always, no exception.

Then it also gives you a passive just while worshiping Opatos, similar to yaca's all collect and ehe's random mp costs. That one is the 10%.

>> No.24044016

>>24040374
>Also discovered that some assholes have gotten my ISP range banned or something
That makes me sad. Not sure if this is the kind of thing looked for but:

>oomsest updates
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObWACccjqvaJLcXBfsH2tHEGaYfaD0S_

https://twitter.com/oomsest

>> No.24045775

>>24044016
>inari replaced by a road goddess
nani

>> No.24045987

>>24045775
She's not replaced, it's a new goddess.

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>>24045987

>> No.24046155

>>24046009
Danalin's not on that list either, probably just limited to 8 for some odd reason. Can you visit Inari's shrine map?

>> No.24046168

>>24046155
Wait. I'm blind. Danalin's on there.

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>>24046009

Inari should be in the base OO that you downladed before adding oomsest on top, oomsest shouldn't have gotten rid of it.

>> No.24046258

>>24046206
Oh,i just applied that download into 1.22 vanilla

>> No.24047046

>>24046258
Ah, you need to go vanilla < OO < oomsest.

There's a few other steps if you want custom items/npcs to be translated. From the discord:

1. Install Vanilla 1.22

2. Install latest omake_overhaul into Elona folder without these three folders; \user\god, \user\item, \user\npc but KEEP wuqing.ooitem at \user\item\omake_overhaul.
omake_overhaul.exe should be in the same folder as elona.exe.

3. Grab omake_overhaul_English's four folders; \data, \user\god, \user\item, \user\npc and place these into \user. Then replace tulip.item at \user\item\omake_overhaul with wuqing.ooitem which you kept earlier.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:28909

4. Install latest oomSEST into Elona folder. oomSE_southtyris.exe should be in the same folder as other .exe files. Overwrite Danalin of Water.god with oomSEST's one.

5. Download jewel_of_love.item and place it into \user\item\omake_overhaul.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410208644379049994/562829876306903060/jewel_of_love.item

6. (Optional) You can see a garbled file like yà‚̃CƒiƒŠ ¹’nz.eum (or 【財のイナリ 聖地】.eum) in \user\god\omake_overhaul. This is a showroom of Inari's sacred place. If it bothers you, rename it to Sacred place of Inari of Fortune.eum or something.

7. Run oomSE_southtyris.exe!

>> No.24047070

New to oomSEST. Is the smithing mechanic tied to a specific skill like carpentry/jewelry/alchemy?

>> No.24047257

>>24047070
It's tied to constitution.

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Smithing

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I better not see you guys using anything but your own custom made player sprite. No matter how wretched it is.

>> No.24049580

i downloaded the elonaplus custom g with mods bundle from the pastebin and i thought thirst was disabled but i guess it's not

i'm going to look it up but while i'm here is there a quick fix for this? or should i just play with thirst on i don't remember how i did it before

>> No.24049808

>>24049580
i figured it out in case anyone makes the same mistake as me, you have to do windows 7 compatibility mode + right click and run as administrator on the elonacg.exe

>> No.24049863

If anyone really hates thirst that much, all they have to do is carry a magaqua with them. If you need to use a potion, just smash it on your head.

>> No.24049870

>>24049863
i think that's probably what i did last time i played this game, but that was like three years ago. i have no idea what i'm up to so i'm starting over now

>> No.24051606

>>24049522
she looks small,i like when my pcc take most of the space because i have bad eyes and can sometimes get lost in a crowd or battle

>> No.24051801

Any idea whats the passive of this new sea goddess? please tell me its something like less travel ambushes because its a shit system

>> No.24052497

>>24051606
Well, it is a child sprite I edited. She is smoll.

Also real chads fill every square of space in the pcc and play as blocks of color.

>> No.24053749

>>24049863
>just give up passively training Swimming
No.

>> No.24053758

>>24053749
I literally forget that skill exists,just eat herbs bro

>> No.24053913

>>24051801
I don't remember exactly, but i remember my reaction being something along the lines of "don't care" and "i actually like rogue ambushes, no brainer" so that must be it.

>> No.24053955

>>24053913
>want to make honest money by trading goods
>get raped by bandits every step of world map
being a merchant is suffering

>> No.24054069

>>24053955
By traveling 10 you should be able to do runs without much issue, assuming you stock up on teleport rods for when they do show up.
The stamina teleport feat warp you way too often right in the middle of the mob for my taste, though it's a lifesaver if you've got nothing else.

>> No.24054313

>>24053749

Even if you don't use magaqua, you should give up on that. You get way more swimming xp from the travel skill than the the skill itself.

Just use bonus points and debriss i that's not enough.

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24055282

New-ish player playing a mage: should I go for dragonscale or adamantium armor?

The increased PV on adamantium seems better, but maybe the resistances on dragonscale will be better in the long term? The Loss guide in the OP recommends I switch my weapons and gear to "adamantium and dragonscale" -- is that adamantium weapons and dragonscale armor? Or does it depend on my combat style?

>> No.24055600

>>24055282
Well, if you're trying to play pure caster, you will want to wear light armors, no shield, no dual wield to maximize cast chance. Also, what determines light, medium, or heavy is the total weight of what you wear. For, which kind of equip you want, you probably want anything with elemental and ailments resistance, also enhance spell damage quips. Well, that's probably the basic. I might be wrong tho, as I don't main a pure caster.

>> No.24055621

>>24049522
i'm literally so bad at pixel art. However, I wonder if there's some repository for customs.

>> No.24055627

>>24055282
Try to prioritize which items get adamantium vs which are for enchants, in descending order of pv:
body > shield > helm>gloves>shoes=cloak>belt>neck>ring


Beyond that, you need superb fire/cold resists to avoid destroyed gear, and superb mind/sound helps with insanity and dim. The other elemental status effects have actually immunities, like confusion immunity on a sage's helm. For generic magic resistance, the magic element is more efficient to focus on, since it provides half resistance to everything else.

For fixed resists these materials are useful:

Dragonscale = fire/cold 50 enchant power each
wood = mind 100 enchant power
leather = sound 25 enchant power

Some gear has resists too, but this is the most noteworthy one.
Aurora rings = sound 50 enchant powoer

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>>24055600
I always thought it was Medium Armor for the Magic Equip special action... My main damage spell (Cold ball) is already currently at 90% success rate.

>>24055627
I see, thanks! The rings/necklace I have probably won't change (Palmia Pride, Steel Dragon, Unknown Shell), but I can work backwards from that list until I reach Superb resists, and then make the rest adamantium. Thanks a bunch!

>> No.24056105

>>24055972
I mean, equipment with "It enhance you spells" bonus and if wearing medium armor nets you high enough cast chance that let you use magic reliably, then that's fine.

>> No.24056557

>>24055282
You're just starting out, so go for lightweight glass stuff for now. You can make lightweight adamantium gear eventually.

>> No.24057782

>>24055621
https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm?1587930375

Good luck, mother fucker.

>> No.24057933

>>24057782
hell yeah motherfucker! thanks anon

>> No.24057957

Friends, I am using the latest version of e+ custom-g, and there is no fucking music. I downloaded one of the easy modded download packs from the pastebin. what do? I tried copypasting the beautify music from both 1.99 and 1.90, both from alfredo's fork.

>> No.24058822

>>24057933
Same anon here. I've found some nice fairy ones, but they're all female, so I'm either making some mystery meat or playing a trap if I can't find a male fairy.
or I could make my own but y'know

>> No.24059868

>>24057957
Seems like those packs aren't as easy as advertised.

>> No.24059870

>>24057957
Beautify music doesn't work

>> No.24059973

>>24059868
Lel. I would say that's true. Although the premodded elona+ pack works just fine and with beautify, to be fair.
>>24059870
Should I just use some other music pack that works?

>> No.24060152

>>24059973
>Should I just use some other music pack that works?

Im the same anon who posted this and this is a dumbass question. What I mean to ask is what other anons who play e+cg use for their soundpacks if any.

>> No.24061302

>>24060152
Ilm currently playing ver 1.90 cg and uses the Etrian Odyssey music pack. Works just fine.

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This >>24021691 guy here
Finally killed Enthu using Wall Creation, Lulwy Porn, MP/Stamina drain, Negative Edge, and most importantly a shitton of luck (plus 2 irl hours).
But I forgot about (and underestimated) Chaos Follower, so gotta start all over again, fuck.

>> No.24065960

>>24044016
Alright. I'll do that. When I get enough time I'll probably also try and update the 'easy' setup OOMSEST zips.

>>24059868
>>24059870
I'll try and see if I can fix these as well. Didn't know the music somehow got fucked up.

>>24062781
>Wall Creation, Lulwy Porn
I can't believe someone else used my shitty cheese strats. Sorry about how it ended though. Bit of advice. If you wall her up and have some decent ranged option, equip anti teleport equipment.
Enthu will waste even more of her turns using her ability that teleports everyone to her, since her ai isn't made to deal with that not working it seems.

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Does Element Scar not work on bosses? I'm having a hard time hitting with it... I might have to rethink this build if I can't land Element Scar.

>> No.24066185

>>24066080
Bosses get ~75% hex resistance, but you can land hexes on them if you try hard enough.

Another thing to keep in mind is that generic magic resistance can prevent hexes same as holy veil does, and bosses have a much higher resistance. Eventually this won't matter much, but it can be a problem until your hexes are in the several hundred range.

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>>24066185
Ohhhh I get it now!! Thanks a bunch!

Relatedly, does anyone know if Ice Ball with Itzpalt's feat and Element Scar is more powerful than just training Magic Storm to late game? Or should I just find/train magic storm?

>> No.24066921

Is everyone here playing the japanese version? Is the english version still complete engrish?

>> No.24066961

>>24066921
I'm playing the english e+, which has been entirely translated so far.. but I'm not at South Tyris yet.

>> No.24067000

>>24066662
With Wet on top of Element Scar, ice and lightning are stronger than magic.

>> No.24068516

>>24066921
E+ has english translation, its not perfect, but I would say 95% of text is understandable. It gets a bit weird late act3, but early its really solid.

>> No.24068966

>>24066662
what does the text here say?

>> No.24069012

haha! lomias just died at a party and now I have his bow. score!

>> No.24069774

>>24068966
(I) ate Myuu but it's not tasty nya~

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>>24004526
I didn't expect to see a general for a roguelike when I stumbled onto this board. Why aren't you guys on /vg/?

>> No.24070287

Pure weebshit goes in /jp/. /vg/ simply tolerates it

>> No.24070380

>>24070287
I'm pretty sure /vg/ is at least 50% weebshit though, they have like 8 generals for gacha shit only. This looks like it has actual gameplay.

>> No.24070467

>>24070287
imagine its weeb dwarf fortress,a general of this in vg would die pretty fast considering there are so little posters here

>> No.24070744

Is the online for this dead forever? I liked visiting player houses. Last time I played this game was around 2017.

>> No.24071138

>>24070744
Moongates and voting works in the omake variants through a secondary server they set up, and there's an open sourced sever that may or may not be dead here:

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:32099

>> No.24071383

>>24071138
The open source server seems to be working fine. I hope it gets more active, though.

>> No.24071460

>>24070287
/vg/ hates us, we don't belong there.

>> No.24071874

>>24065960
Weird thing is, beatify music works for me in 1.98R. It's some kind of custom or G problem.

>> No.24071934

>>24071138
Thanks anon

>> No.24072091

>>24070276
Honestly, I was surprised to find elona on /jp/ instead of /vg/. I thought elona simply have no thread.
>>24071460
why tho. this game might be more forgiving in the death penalty which can be changed to loss mode if one wants to play a more roguelike. If peps simply hate animu style they can change it by using western portrait pack or simply make one. Or are there any other reasons? like, Not rogue enuff? Or life sim disguising as roguelike? Kinda make me curious.

>> No.24072164

>>24072091
perhaps /vg/ doesn't enjoy the idea of using the riding skill on little girls.

>> No.24072417

>>24072164
Hmmm, fair enough. Kinda forgot that kind of details. So, can I assume that they hate the mechanic implication instead of the origin and the style of the game? Since, iirc the /rlg/ talked about a touhou roguelike, gensou something and that super hero themed N1's game ZHP, not sure. Probably, just a passing wind topic. I might be wrong tho. It was like some time ago when I was unaware of elona threads' existence in /jp/ and lurking to see if elona might pop up.

>> No.24073108

>>24072091
>>24072417
Elona had a general of its own on /vg/ before, but it died because it was too slow for the board, and got rolled up into /rlg/ anyway. Last I remember you can still discuss it there, but since Elona has its own dedicated thread, there's not much point.

>> No.24073233

Should I start with Omake or +?

>> No.24073331

>>24073108
Ahh, I got it now. Thanks. I guess this game kinda niche after all.
>>24073233
Well, depend on what you want, actually. Both have different features. But, personally, If you just started try picking E+ custom/g, It is much easier and since the skill cost much less PP you can try and pick various style and focus on your preferred play style later on, and has more campaign chapters (Up to 3rd? act). It has different modes as well. While omake have more min-max feats and for-fun feats, also, several new gods, skill like smithing weapons and armor, and South tyris 2nd act. just pick it up whenever you already know what you want. They have different learning curve tho, so you have to re-learn a bit if you switch. Just read the pastebin on the OP, they have much more and better description on what each version does.

>> No.24073492

>>24055282
>New-ish player playing a mage: should I go for dragonscale or adamantium armor?
Chest armor is your best source of PV and should always be adamantium. For other equipment slots you've got more flexibility for taking resistances you want and things like that.

>> No.24073553

>>24073233
+ is probably easier to get into and is more combat oriented. Omake is more sandbox and modding oriented. They're both good.

>> No.24073555

>>24065960
Thank you anon, I literally forgot that anti-teleport enchant existed, guess that what happens when you play as a Mage(physical) for too long, much appreciated.

>> No.24076792

Anybody end-game wanna share their equipment with us? I'm interested in seeing how high the numbers go with artifact fusion and such.

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>>24076792
what do you consider endgame anon

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>>24076792
>>24078227

>> No.24078327

>>24078227
>800+ hours
>1000s in every stat
It's you. You are the endgame

>>24078257
>Everything weightless
>Suddenly, 351.6 weight weapon
Holy crap. The damage on that must be insane.

But this confirms what I was thinking -- some of the fixed artifacts are too good to ever stop using.

>> No.24078840

>>24078257
are there any spell enhance bonuses on any of your equipment?

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>>24062781
And here I thought I was getting close to clearing act 3, currently being bodied by Tezcatlipoca. After seeing the difference in raw stats between our characters I don't know how long it'll take for me to clear.

>> No.24079363

>>24078840
Heh, someone else posted those, but yes I also capped my spell enhance. However, I usually switch my nunchuck out with a 15.5s vital flayer before I cast buffs. This way I can use magic equip. I don't need the extra enhance anymore, but the weight class is still useful.


>>24078987
Tez averages his stats with yours, so he's handicapping himself in your fights. The lowest I've seen someone clear act3 was in the 200 stat range, with a lot of cheese.

>> No.24079631

>>24078987
i just use a wish rod and let some god beat the living hell out of him

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>>24076792
Let me know if you want more detail than "superb resist for everything and all the immunities". (Also, apparently I forgot to get all my stuff to +15. Gotta work on that.)

>> No.24080697

>>24065960
Thank you anon. You are the real mvp.

>> No.24080797

>>24078987
>>24079363
I made it past him after grinding up a bit more just so I could see what Enthumesis was about and I died in 4 turns. How do you get your hp to 60k? Farming hero cheeses off of little sisters?

>> No.24080937

>>24080797
You can buy life for ap from leold in ulm lesson. It caps at 300%, from him. Save your cheese for after you softcap it.

>> No.24081159

>>24080632
Huh, wasn't expecting Beggar's Pendant. What do you have on it?

>> No.24084204

Holy shit, the teleport marker recipe in oomsest is fucking awesome.
Mmh, are there items that are natively coldproof ?

>> No.24084484

>>24084204

Stuff can only be acid proof and fire proof. No cold proof.

>> No.24086698

...How long/hard is it to reincarnate a hammer once ?
I kinda want to wait until doing that, and get the title associated with it, to start my levelling up my adamantium living saber of magic enhancing omnipotence.
I tested in wizard mode and memory edited myself the title, and the difference is kinda massive...
And since the bottleneck is scrolls of name, i'd lose nothing in waiting.
There'd be the added benefit of starting with a huge enchant bonus from level 1, making sure i'm not wasting the enchant bonus each level-up and reach +9999 faster.

TL;DR how fast can you get hammer level 2000 without bubble farm

>> No.24086747

>>24086698

It only takes a couple hours tops, if you have the skins needed. Faster if you are using the test builds that let you continuously hammer.

However, you do need ~20k-40k skins, half at low level half at price cap (lvl 49M+ bubbles work). I haven't tested the new smith xp boost to see how it affects this.

Doing this with a bubble farm isn't to bad, but without one? I have no idea, but good luck.

>> No.24086820

>>24086747
Mmmh. Thanks.
...I don't even have the anatomy skill yet, that's something to correct ASAP.

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>>24080797
You don't actually need to get your HP to 60K. I realized that It was actually excessive after my third time fighting her and it won't help you run from the final Arc 3 boss. Just wall her with you so you don't have to deal with the chaos spirits, but you must increase your speed and contingency spell though, for your own sake.
p.s. FUCK CHAOS CHILD

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24091552

>>24076792

>> No.24092043

>>24081159
Haven't messed with it, it's just there for the immunities. My gear strategy is "artifact fusion with inheritable randarts, plus some reasonably attainable fixedarts for complete coverage".

>> No.24092957

>>24078257
Why so many gloves specifically?

>> No.24092991

>>24092957
It's a 2-hand build, so I can't use claws. Gloves give the next best damage bonus. It doesn't make an especially big difference, though.

>> No.24093084

>>24092991
Ah i assumed nunchakus were a fist type weapon until i checked the wiki

>> No.24095103

Is Garok’s hammer worth getting or should I just get artifact seeds instead and hope for something good? I just want some time stop gear.

>> No.24095566

>>24095103
i would say its worth for some things like an aurora ring for faster travel,but i think vehicles rendered those options obsolete

>> No.24097525

Lads, is it really worth it to dump 85 small medals on a catsister? What could she do, besides be insufferably cute?

>> No.24097678

>>24097525
You can find catsister diaries randomly in dungeons, so it's only if you want one nao.

>> No.24098678

Is there wiki that is not outdated for 2-3 years? Even japanese will do.

>> No.24102506

>>24098678
Do you need a specific variant or just elona in general? Anyway, iirc there are elona variants compedium in the wiki and other JP wiki as well. Not sure where tho. and not sure how often it gets updated.
>>24046009
Wait, a new god? So, what does this Serria do? Can't seem to find it. Does it helps swimming or something?

>> No.24102725

>>24102506
I'd like to have something like this.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
I enjoyed reading it very much when I started to play elona, but now I see that most of the pages are outdated and some of them are just wrong. It's clearly that elona+ updates so often that wiki don't even try catch on.

>> No.24102753

I want to start a new Elona+ run but I feel like 2.00 will change so much stuff/introduce so many possible bugs transferring from 1.99 that I should wait. And then probably wait to make sure there's no 2.00R emergency release for any major bugs. Feels bad.

>> No.24102815

>>24102725
Sorry, dude. I don't know the other besides the two I mentioned above (variant compendium and JP atwiki or something).

>>24102753
Yeah, better wait and see than bite the sea.

>> No.24103966

>>24102753
As there ever been any gamebreaking bugs in this game? i cant recall any

>> No.24105001

>>24095103
It's a good way to get (more of) specific effects. +crit on ammo is excellent. It also lets you "promote" non-artifacts for use with Artifact Fusion, or create nearly-empty artifacts to customize.

>> No.24105067

How to deal with hoarding? Elona+ made so much different items that 12 pages of inventory is enough for at most half an hour of gameplay. Just holy shit, all I do is hoarding and sorting my inventory.

>> No.24105194

>>24105067
get a house and dump items
if you are rich also buy stairs to have more floor to dump garbage
sort things once a month
stairs were around 175k last time i played

>> No.24105201

>>24105067
Use Inexpensive Exchange to turn vendor trash into gold instead of hauling it to a shop. If you aren't going to need something immediately, use 4-Dimensional Pocket to store it. Buy stairs when possible. Not sure what else to say.

>> No.24105223

>>24105201
>>24105194
Why stairs are needed? I have a dungeon and 5 warehouses, so I do have place to store items, but only when I return home.
But sometimes I don't have enough space to even finish one dungeon...

>> No.24105235

>>24105223
you can't add floors to home without stairs , each floors got it's own item capacity

>> No.24105243

>>24105067
i mean it sounds like you're picking everything up

why not just stop doing that

>> No.24105402

>>24105243
But that shit is valuable.

>> No.24105450

>>24105402
>shit is valuable
i guess you can say that

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24105748

>>24080797
I went back and won by spamming lightning bolt after using element scar on her, I'm pretty sure I ran her out of mana at some point because she stopped casting spells at around 35% hp since she wouldn't be able to regen with scar up. My little girl did most of the damage that fight though, but she died due to having no self healing.

>> No.24106172

I’ve been gathering Soxs and panties. They are rare so I thought there would be some kind of use for them. Is there? Or should I just dump them into my weapon shop.

>> No.24107711

>>24106172
There's a use for soxs in act 3, but you can farm them more or less in masse using lvl 70-80 tower dungeons and stealing from clowns/ninjas.

Panties are only for your personal use.

>> No.24112273

>>24107711
You can stuff panties into bread.

>> No.24112394

>>24112273
For your own personal use.

>> No.24119457

>>24107711
Specifically you need them to add a few weapon enchantments with Artifact Fusion, namely magic elemental damage, absolute pierce chance, Distant Attack, and Gravity Sphere invoke.

>> No.24120877

how do you find a pot of fusion? I've been running through puppy cave for an hour now whilst checking the general stores and this piece of shit won't show up

>> No.24121048

>>24120877
Can't find it in an hour? Try another hour! Can't find it again?! Try again! Well, honestly, that's RNG for ya. Just do something else, like venturing on nefias, checking shops while doing delivery/escort quests or whatever, you will find it eventually.

>> No.24121059

>>24121048
>item is absolutely fucking essential from the beginning of the game
>"better make it rng"

>> No.24121257

>>24121059
Well, have fun with that. There is really no fast way or easy way besides getting lucky. I can't really remember if there is any fusion pot laying around to steal in town. Ehetkatl is laughing or mewling, the heck is with her.

>> No.24124099

>>24121059
Oh boy, you will love what I'm about to say to death, then.

I have a unique little build idea for you guys, and I already did the hard work of sussing out how best to get the build moving early game. The Alchemist. Defeating enemies only through alchemy and alchemy related shenanigans. No need for complexities like being good with magic or weapons.

Yerles/Juere/Goblin Farmer. Race is just taste among these three, but getting extra material pulls will be good the later you get in to the game to grind alchemy easier. Tag Control Magic. That's not negotiable. Take Hypnosis as a feat. This is just a really good idea. Take little girl as your pet and go enjoy some Harvest Time for a while. Once you find a Pot for Fusion, you should be set. Make yourself some magistus with the Crystal Bomb recipe. Note, save up your bonus points to dump in to alchemy for this. And maybe a dab of control magic. The combination of both determines the item's level. Make several of them. Make them periodically as your alchemy and control magic improve.

Now go pick up the DD Cemetery Key from the Lumiest Cemetery. Pick up the coffins there too and use them to summon the default cats they come with. Get rid of little girl. YOU ARE NOW AN ALCHEMY MAIN. Feel threatened? (T)hrow your crystals at yourself. Control Magic will keep your zombies safe. Pick them up off the ground and repeat. If you keep on this path, eventually you'll get alchemy rain/liquid manipulation. Make more coffins and upgrade them as you can. You have have 15 total zombies at your disposal.

>> No.24124120

>>24124099
Oh, I shouldn't have to point this out, but you'll need to pick up alchemy from a trainer. Which is fine. You can't exactly exploit alchemy if you start with it anyway.

>> No.24124471

>>24124099
Why stop at 15 zombies? You can only have that many active sure, but they stack into the billions, and you can summon more as the old ones die.

>> No.24125680

>>24121257
>>24124099
nvm I found it hours ago
it seems like farming is essential too. About half of the gods have items you can get from farms. With gem seeds you can get Jure of Healing to +4000 favor real fast.

>> No.24126903

Has anything changed since Elona+ 1.80ish to make 1h/shield a good build? Last I recall shields were considered trash because if you're melee you just want mongo damage output over defense, and if you use magic they hurt your cast failure chance.

>> No.24129010

>>24125680
Gratz, Elona is one of those grind for life game. Whcihever build you use you will need to farm stuffs (and in-game farm for those sweet stats boosting weed). So, maybe, we're all grinding our constitution in real life. Do you feel good when being hit hard?
>>24126903
As far as I remember, no, nothing has been changed (someone, please confirm). I wish shield can be better as I for one love using shield. I f you insist on using shield. Try dual shield, provoke, buff, debuff pet, shadow steps and blast 'em with a shotty, for pseudo melee build. Or Martial arts with dual shield (preferably with MA+ bonus). Not sure how good are those build in the long run.
Btw, has anyone tried bloodstream build (CON) + (WIL)? I can churn out big damage and 1 hit kill most stuff, but what about higher level dungeon? Or is there a specific stuff to bolster its damage to an absurd amount? For, reference I'm on E+ 1.90 (too lazy to update), 700ish CON, 529 WIL and have learnt Brave feat and provoke. Someone told me about using harakiri, but imo, the risk is too high especially on a wide dungeon with ton of foes like cradle of chaos.

>> No.24129122

>>24124099
What does Crystal bomb do?
>>24124471
how to have more than 15 out at once?

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>>24129122
Well you see...

>> No.24131890

ywn racemix with larrienne while lomias watches

>> No.24133810

>>24129010
Used bloodstream during late Act 2 to mid Act 3 as my main attack (level 90, 150-ish con), managed to kill some lv 600+ nefia boss using it, harakiri, capsule drugs, and several rods of teleportation, but ultimately decided not to use it anymore.
SP cost is too high for it it to be spammable and straight up inferior to just Mana Burning your shit up for instant burst damage, especially during a death maneki situation.
For Cradle of Chaos, assuming there's no wall crushing enemies, you can just make some wall around yourself to rest and heal, although the better option is just to use Dimensional fishing to kill your enemies off one by one.
Never gonna thought that Wall Creation and Fishing skill would end up as my trump card though, and that it works every time.
>>24105748
Good job anon, how's the chaos child? That guy reminds me of vanilla elona where you can win against whom dwell in vanity just by essentially running away.

>> No.24134244

>>24133810
Picking up a foe and confine it for duel to death. This strategy kicks my memory of Ragnarok online, a PvM Rogue, snatch foe, then use confinement skill to 1v1. Ahhh...Nostalgia.
Well, I was using bloodstream since it feels like I'm actually playing glass cannon, or flesh-bag cannon for that matter. I guess, there is a limit on what I can do with this skill. Thanks though, I appreciate the input.

>> No.24134314

>>24129122

Nah, I said you can only have 15 active at once. You have to keep the rest in coffin form. When you lose one, or make it explode, they turn back into coffins, and you summon new ones to replace the old ones.

This is mostly useful if you want to use your zombies to kamikaze rush through dungeons. Though, later once you get fusion, you'll (probably) want enough replacements to use zombie fusion more than once a day.

>> No.24134724

>>24134314
my issue is,what if your key gets destroyed or you drop it on death?

>> No.24134739

>>24134724
Oh, all DD keys are linked together. You just need to get a new one, and it'll have all your coffins in it.

Kinda like ender chests.

>> No.24137843

Is the Elona+ version still getting updates in terms of translation? Some "tutorial guides" like fishing or even the book that lays aroun the quest board that gives tips? aren't translated. Or the adventure seminar npc. Aren't those important things?
Just wondering. Being new. trying to get into.

>> No.24139013

>>24137843
You have no idea how bad it is. Major quest NPCs have untranslated dialogue, or more commonly the code for another NPC's dialogue gets copied over and only the Japanese text gets changed. I'd recommend Plus Custom/Custom-G rather than just Plus.

>> No.24144430

Seriously,i want my blood zombie dragons to look like waifus but changing their looks means i have to get rid of the control magic coffin enchantment,any workarounds beside changing the blood dragon sprite itself?

>> No.24144463
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24144463

>>24144430
You must embrace the sprite changing

>> No.24144472

>>24144463
Well,fuck,i assumed you cant interact with zombies because they arent technically 'pets'

>> No.24144483

>>24144472
I didn't even think about that, can you?

>> No.24144574

>>24144483
Thats why i am asking,i havent played in months and i am too lazy to check myself

>> No.24144584

>>24144574
We're at an impasse because so am I.

>> No.24149431

>>24124099
>A reusable item that cast magic storm for FREE and can be upgraded
what the fuck i didn't knew this item existed,the pot of fusion has so many fucking recipes that i just skim over everything

>> No.24151789

>>24139013
So much about "playable translated".
Thank you. I guess i do that then.

>> No.24151833

>>24151789
Wait, i'm using Elona+ 1.99. This isn't even compatible with custom then who is on 1.90?

>> No.24151992

>>24151833
Correct. You can have translations, or you can have new shit. You can't have both.

Or just cave in and switch to oomsest.

>> No.24152068

>>24151992
I'ts letss about the new shit and more about my first character. Don't really wanna lose him yet already.

>> No.24152101

>>24152068
Oh well. Good luck. It'll be rough on a new character.
The wiki should have most of what you need to complete quests, and some of the missing dialogue, at least.

>> No.24152124

>>24152101
Guess i just try to go with Elona+ and my Gunmage until i feel tired of dying i guess.
Thanks and stuff.

>> No.24152136

>>24149431
It even upgrades later in to one that casts it three times.

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24152148

If you cry yourself to sleep tonight, I won't tell anyone.

>> No.24153287

Does Detection have an effect on ambushes? Does anything have?
If not, it should. At least letting them spawn a bit more far away.

>> No.24153494

>>24153287
Nope, only detects traps and secret passages.

>> No.24156054

I don't understand this

>> No.24157031

>>24156054
"this" is a word that is used to represent what the speaker is talking about. It can refer to anything depending on the context it is used in.

>> No.24161574

>>24153287
Them being close is fine. Just teleport dude.
Anyway, here are three anti-bandit gimmicks for you:
#1: Create a line of buildings between destinations. Can get expensive.
#2: Use an encounter canceller. If you're on Custom-G you'll need to go on Custom for a bit to craft it because it's made from piss.
#3: Pay 200,000 GP/month for a land battleship. Newer Plus only.

>> No.24167424

>>24152148
Keep in mind that Lulwy's Trick only has a 2% activation rate. It's an excellent boost when it happens, but you can't rely on it.

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Where do I turn in the Puppy Cave puppy? What should I even be focusing on. I don't think the pastebins were particularly clear in priorities, but I'm probably just illiterate.

>> No.24169715

>>24169215
From the wiki:<Rilian> the dog lover, Vernis, northernmost house on the east side

>> No.24169781

>>24161574
>Encounter canceller
Excuse me?

>> No.24169886

>>24169781
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Pot_for_fusion
>Encount canceller
However, the other anon was mistaken.
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29/1.80_-_1.89#1.80:_detailed_changelog
>It will not prevent other encounters like rogue attacks and wandering vendors.

>> No.24172495

Quick question, do bejeweled chests still base their contents on your current location's danger level?

>> No.24172621

>>24172495
Nope.

>> No.24173281

>>24169215
First timer? Join a guild and whatever cult suits your playstyle the most. Get yourself gang raped by a bunch of Asura to increase your evasion. Learn weight lifting and grab the heaviest piano you could find, then shove it to Zeome's face. That's arc 1 clear.

>> No.24178428

Do you guys play other variants of elona beside plus and omake?
It would be rude for me if I don't give my share of answer. I don't play other variant since I feel that two variants already sapped my time and mostly because of it is being active.
I'm just curious.

>> No.24178928

>>24156054
Elona is a very complex game. It contains almost all of the systems every other RPG has had combined into one single game.
It is best approached like a Paradox Grand Strategy game; with the understanding that it will take hundreds of hours before you have a good grasp of what is going on.
In return, it offers a ridiculous amount of replay value. A single playthrough can easily last over a thousand hours, and every playthrough is different. The game also receives regular updates and has a large, active modding community.

In short, it's the ultimate fantasy world simulation. And it's free!

>> No.24184154

>>24169715
>>24173281
Thanks anons, I will now die from being squashed, hope it goes okay.

>> No.24188522

>>24178428
Do other variants even have English translations?

>> No.24189014

>>24188522
Every variant at least has the base vanilla translations, or OOen's if based on that. Since most variants add mechanics and custom npcs, there shouldn't be too much needing translation. But, you probably will run into things that are untranslated, yeah.

>> No.24193098

>>24178928
I'm finding myself doing the same thing again and again. Go to jobpost, take Escort/Hunting mission, finish it, take coin and gold only. If I get into combat just hold Pass turn so pets take care of everything.

Could you suggest some new activity?

>> No.24193113

Hey, is there any way to compare items when I get random merchant encounter? I can either buy/sell but can't see currently equipped items (or pets i tems). If I exit the merchant is gone.

>> No.24193133

>>24193098
find yourself a goal and aim towards it
trashing gods
collecting all named npcs cards
creating an uber weapon
just find yourself some autism value and go towards it
you can even roleplay a jew merchant and just cargo across the continent if that's your thing

>> No.24193168

>>24193133
The thing is I've just started playing it one or two days ago. And since I don't know what is possible to do in the game I can't really set a goal. Recently, I've found out that you can build your own estate/shop so I was aiming to do that. So your suggestions are appreciated as it gives me ideas what I can do. Thank you.

Are there any aspects of Social RP available? Doing some things that involve other NPCs? Climb social ladder so to speak?

>> No.24193222

>>24193168
if you're playing the OOMEST branch it got exactly the thing you're asking for as for social RP
the city creation where you recruit various NPC for your own town
and the more "fame" you get more stuff happens to you, like a rival appearing and scaling during your adventure to always keep you on your toes

>> No.24193614

>>24193222
Excellent, then I'm going to switch to oomset. I was playing ElonaPlus Custom. I hope the saves are transferable.

>> No.24195543

>>24193614
Saves are not transferable from plus to oomsest.
Some people have managed the reverse however, from oomsest to plus.

>> No.24199573

>>24195543
wouldn't the game crash if you have oomsest items or exclusive gods once transferred to plus?

>> No.24201892

>>24199573
Those are implemented using custom items/npcs, plus just wouldn't load them.

>> No.24203989

Is it possible to get multiple statues of Kumiromi and use them to get a bunch of herb seeds at once?

>> No.24204341

>>24203989
Yes, in the cyber dome south of vernis the little sister quest let's you dupe artifacts.

Non-gear like statues, secret gems, hero cheese, etc don't get turned into stardust, and you can have as many of them as you want.

>> No.24207911

How do you fight ghosts? I assume their Touch of Weakness is why I don't do any damage to them after a while. Do I need weakness resist gear?

>> No.24211412

>>24207911

Kill them in one hit, use ranged attacks/magic, or paralyze them.

>> No.24211454

>>24207911
You need maintain stat gear.
Most important are speed, constitution and willpower, + strenght/perception/magic depending on your gameplay.
A stop gap mesure is to always have 5 or so potions of restore body and mind on you.

>> No.24214714

>>24207911
The stat loss doesn't go away on its own. A priest in any town or a potion of restore body will fix it.

>> No.24214722

>>24207911
You can use restore potions/spells to get your stats back up. There's a lot of enemies that lower your stats, so having a stock of them on hand is a good idea.

Blessed restore pots even raise your stats. Cursed ones lower it. This can be useful when training magic capacity, so save those too.

>> No.24216098
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Question: Has anyone tried elona foobar on android phones? Anyone ever got oomsest working on it? I heard it works with mods and imagined that oomsest would work since both work on an early version.

>> No.24217322

What exactly does job change even do for the character in oomSEST?

>> No.24218378

>>24217322
Some jobs get special spacts.
Claymores can use boost, warmages get enchant, etc.

>> No.24220290
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This can't be a coincidence.

>> No.24227368

How do you get the item's value in its description ?
Elona extender ?

>> No.24227791

>>24227368
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:25014#436
>E+C 1.81.1
>Items (other than artifacts) now have a description line showing how much they could be sold for to an npc shop.

>> No.24229593
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24229593

>>24227791
Thanks.
And aww shucks.

>> No.24232100

>>24229593
The Inexpensive Exchange recipe's menu can be used to see the price of something anywhere. And to sell it, for that matter.

>> No.24237691

How do I level up pets a bit faster in oomSEST early game? I'm spoiled by how fast they develop in Elona+.

>> No.24237943

>>24237691
Since there's no INI, it's better to simply better catch more and more powerful pets, powah-wise.

>> No.24245286

Did they remove the piss mechanics?

>> No.24245920

>>24245286
A qoute from the FAQ

"An annoying thirst system with pissing mechanics. I recommend carrying a magaqua in your inventory as this will prevent you from ever becoming thirsty. The whole mechanic is removed in E+C-G"

>> No.24247004

>>24245920
By the way, WHAT exactly is this piss mechanic? In Elona+

>> No.24247527

>>24247004
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29/1.70_-_1.79#1.78

>> No.24247854
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24247854

Since I started playing Elona again after 3 or so years, I decided to go back and update the tone file I made way back when for Elona+ Little Girl, updating it to v1.90+
It's the same pastebin link as in the Mod pastebin, just editted the contents:
https://pastebin.com/v8N6DBKm

If all goes well, I can start updating the other ones too

>> No.24247945
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>>24247854
Unfortunately, I lost my save file from the last time I played. So I tried dabbling with oomSEST as well while starting over in Elona+

oomSEST has a bunch of neat QoL things like Damage Number displays, autopickup and speech bubbles that I really wished Elona+ had.
But I can't do as much stuff with my Allies like I could in Elona+, like sharing meals, customization, and all dat.

I can only hope oomSEST eventually grows just as big as E+ content wise, cuz I'm really digging how smooth it is to play compared to E+ and gives me nostalgia for when I played Vanilla Elona.

>> No.24248857

>>24247527
Thank you. Still not sure if there is any debuff or anything i have to care about.

Apparently the leveling up spells from using them often also increases the spell cost. is there any way to prevent to make the "general used spells" too expensive?

>> No.24248906

>>24248857
They should increase slower than your MP does. It might be a problem right at the start, but it's not really an act2+ issue, in my experience.

>> No.24251762

>>24248857
Debuffs? Act 4 got some Oblivion Beast that can do unblockable version of Touch of Weakness.
Chaos Spirit series can MP drain your shit up to death.
Brainwash makes you unequip a piece of your equips.
Other debuffs can usually be resisted if you've got enough resistance anyway, so there's that.
>Expensive spells
That's why you should only use buff spells like Hero, Speed, and Holy Shield and proceed to Shadow Step the fuck out of your enemies.

>> No.24252258

How pointless is it to go for a Martial Arts build in OO? I could play Elona+ instead but I want to wait until 2.00.

>> No.24253748

>>24252258
Pointless... is a matter of perspective. MA grows a lot slower, but there a feats to give it dim, crit piercing, and even an ether disease for cut damage. So, it can hold it's own in mid-late game. It's only really left behind in the power gaming phase.

It has 3 main flaws:
1) it'll grow slower at the start.

2) Weapons are muuuch stronger in general. +x enchants scale up to 1000 or 9999 depending on version, and boost the multiplier by a ton. You can also get damage enchantments that scale all the way up to 2G if you invest enough into getting there. Combined with violence for tons of base damage, late game weapon skills are crazy op. However, the damage cap is still 20m, so this is less impressive than it sounds.

3) except for multi-attacks. Unlike in + MA only gets 2 hits. With warmage's enchant you can get all the elements + physical damage 2 times. Weapons get up to 8 with the right titles, and you can have 2+ depending on if you want to be a mutant or not. So, even though they are both capped at 20m a hit, weapons can hit far more. Guns/crossbows take it to an extreme with burst ammo. They can also get ~8 base hits using either rapid fire (guns), or skill based extra attacks (crossbows)

However, outside of bonus bosses and custom npcs, almost nothing has more than 2M HP anyway.

>> No.24254232

>>24252258
>>24253748
There's another variable to take into account : fighting naked with your fists means you have nothing to fear whatsoever from death, since you have nothing important to drop anyway.

>> No.24255530

>>24254232
Will and charisma go down with death. I'm assuming you don't care about money, tho.

>> No.24259289

>>24253748
Pointless may not have been the right word, underwhelming is what I meant.

>> No.24261141

Shooting stuff is fun.

>> No.24262690

>>24252258
Is 2.0 actually going to be special in some way or is it just another usual incremental update?

>> No.24262921

>>24262690
You can read the partial changelog for next version here: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:32126

>> No.24268473
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>>24262921
>cap on stored skillpoints/plat
ah yes, it's not an Elona+ update without even more limitations on how to play.

>> No.24269704

OFFICER OFFICER
IT'S THAT MAN >>24268473
HE WANTS TO HAVE FUN
PLEASE ARREST HIM, HE WANTS TO HAVE FUN

>> No.24270286
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24270286

heh...
thinking about changing her sprite to satorin

>> No.24270901

>>24268473
Ano status: still Ano.

>> No.24274843

i want to play Elona+ Custom G but the download for Elona+ ver 1.90 on the wiki is dead, what do i do?

>> No.24277017

>>24274843
The Custom-G thread on the wiki forum has a backup download.

>> No.24277744

>>24270901
>>24268473
He could have removed them outright and I wouldn't have noticed a difference, skill points are such a superfluous part of character building. The patch was more of a powercreep anyway. Halved goddamn plat costs, and you're bothered by skill point not being hoardable?

>> No.24282470

>>24277744
You've clearly never played a spellcaster.

>> No.24284119

>>24262690
>Last boss sprites
IS THIS IT? THE END OF ACT 3(4?) AT LAST?

>> No.24287320

>>24284119
I thought Act 4 only had slight progress still. I've probably missed or forgotten updates...

>> No.24287512

>>24287320
It's a small area. Only 1 town, a couple of static locations, and 1 "dungeon". It does have a time god that ignores your timestop, in case you tried to make a timestop build.

>> No.24289945

>>24282470
I play a mutant-riding buffcaster. Does that count?

>> No.24292293

>>24289945
Probably means attacking with spells. I tried it once. I was honestly surprised that spell potential doesn't get restored if you spend plat on magic training. I ended up going back to lasers.

>> No.24293573

>>24292293
Magic training as a whole could really use a rework.

>> No.24300370

>>24277017
thank you

>> No.24302239

>>24058822
Can you post those nice fairy ones?
Please

>> No.24306026

>>24049522
Won't using a custom sprite break the riding animation?

>> No.24308515

>>24306026
Custom riding sprite.

>> No.24317239

>>24293573
I'd settle for a Custom-G gameplay tweak that makes magic training give +100% potential (like skill training) rather than spell level.

>> No.24321442
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24321442

I was originally just replacing the gun/laser sound effects since i play ranged, but ended up replacing more, and realized there's a lack of sound effect replacement packs.
So here's a small sound replacement pack. It doesn't replace everything, just a few sounds I felt could be better, mostly combat sounds to make combat a bit more satisfying to the ears:

mediafire.com/file/kwrhi03ci1b8bpe

Just place the sound folder in your Elona folder to replace. Or pick individual files.
Some suggestions on what else to replace or feedback would be cool too. I was just sorta winging it, especially with those magic sound effects, and will likely add more to it in the future.

>> No.24332806

>>24321442
Cool. Hope it gets added to the mod pastebin.

>> No.24339091

Elea.
190 magic capacity.
Comfy.

>> No.24342229

>>24308515
Or just turn off the riding sprite. Or just don't use riding cause it's bad.

>> No.24349733

Trying to look for a rogue warrior from the slave master for my shop. I've been rerolling for a while now and haven't seen anything higher level than a nurse. Level 14 at the moment, am I just unlucky?

>> No.24350346

>>24349733
Keep rollin' man, keep rollin'. Mew mew mew.
Now, you probably got it already.

>> No.24350523

>>24350346
Actually I gave up and just went with a Juere infantry for now. Trying out smithing and I am failing to create anything which I guess is normal at low levels. Surprised there's no added skill to correspond with it though.

>> No.24352706

>>24350523
Constitution is the base skill for smithing. Increasing it will boost success rate.

>> No.24352865

How popular is this game in Japan?
Would I be able to find any merchandise in Japan? Like radio dramas?

>> No.24352969

>>24352865
Not very.
The threads are less lively than this one, and the wiki is basically dead.
I wonder how much it'd cost to buy the rights of the game and setting from Ano...

>> No.24353038

>>24352706
Yes but I thought it was strange considering there's already carpentry, tailoring, etc. Although it doesn't use the same system I still think it deserves its own skill.

>> No.24353256

>>24353038
Afaik, the hammer is a custom item. Plus, modifying the base game is much harder than giving an addition to it or so, I heard. I'll be honest, I dunno anything about programming.

>> No.24354188
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Worship Opatos

>> No.24354557

>>24352865
>>24352969

There's more jp players then english ones. You can find sites/streams/etc of it. Most of them are on blogs/twitter/discord/nicovideo though. I have seen some self-made merchandise, and there was that one chinese clone.

>> No.24355356

>>24354188
>I am sworn to carry your burdens

>> No.24356445

>>24354188
>elona 3D
It should be that hard to do.
>PSO 2-style moarpg
I'd probably lose my life to it.
I mean, more than i do to regular Elona.

>> No.24359333

>>24354188
Give me 5 reasons to.

>> No.24359434

>>24359333
>Do you lift Bro ?
>You get a free walking item bag
>he's always laughing
>damage reduction is good because you can't avoid everything
>he likes literal rocks for offering

>> No.24361055

Elona+ 2.0 delayed, next version will be 1.995 for more testing/bugfixing

>> No.24363774

>>24352969
>I wonder how much it'd cost to buy the rights of the game and setting from Noa...
They were able to buy a license for that mobile game, so I guess it's possible?

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Thinking about switching to Inari so I can eat her blessed food.

>> No.24371581

>>24371483
You should invest in cooking and alchemy, buy a pot for testing, and do thousands of puff puff bread.
That way, you can get years worth of blessed food without having to stick with the god.

>> No.24371608
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24371608

I have never played this game before
Any tips

>> No.24371946

>>24371581
Alright, just got alchemy. Seems like a long grind but should be worth it. Thanks for the tip.

>> No.24371977

>>24371608
Eating cats lowers karma. So, make sure you have a nice stockpile of karma before doing so, or a way to recover it after eating a pile of cat steaks.

>> No.24372991

>>24371977
I
what

>> No.24373777

>>24372991
Identify food before you eat it. Eating cursed food can kill you early Oman’s reduce stats. Pick the little girl as a pet she is the best choice. Other than that it’s just trail and error. A lot of it.

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>>24373777
>Eating cursed food can kill you early Oman’s reduce stats
>Pick the little girl as a pet
what
I see I'm in for a good time

>> No.24373881,1 [INTERNAL] 

Hello, I'm new here, got a question if anyone can help (I'm sorry ahead of time if its been answered and my dumb ass just can't find it) I've read everything I can and ctrl+f'd so many various things to no avail, when using a custom portrait in EC+G (easy set up with mods download) is the maximum amount for them 40?
I finally got the custom portrait in there but it was only after I replaced one of the 40 already there, and there was 3 others that were simply unusable due to my amount of portrait options only being 40 in game, any help or work around, or is it stuck at 40?

and a quick thank you pastebinanon, you've been there for me for some time without me ever knowing who you are, kudos for everything man, you're a legend.

>> No.24383268

How come every equipment I make with smithing gives me resistance to fire?

>> No.24383374

>>24383268
maybe you're very hot

>> No.24384490

Anyone got that one pic of all the girls in elona? I think it was all the girls.

>> No.24384494

>>24383268
Because you're using skins, that default to scale material.
And scale material gives fire resistance to equipment.
That the big reason you should NEVER sell/throw away rubynis ore, you can make rubinus equipment out of it, training life when eating it.

>> No.24384508

>>24384490
I think i know what you're talking about.
I remember seeing Kumiromi in it.

I don't have it, though.

>> No.24384524

>>24384508
From memory there was one for all girls and one for all guys I guess because it had opatos in it, with the exact same art style.
But all I remember from each of them is opatos and lulwy pretty much, since they have wins

>> No.24387384

>>24384524
>>24384508
>>24384490

Do you mean the one from noa's pixiv?
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/44816970

>> No.24387401

>>24387384
yup, thanks
didnt think noa did that, since the ingame stuff is nowhere near as pretty

>> No.24388148

>>24387401
He didn't, he just posted it.

>> No.24388155

>>24388148
wonder who the artist is

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>>24384524
all the elona gods have wings,except mani and there is a lore reason for that

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very Godly, fitting name

>> No.24389715

>>24389124
I got lucky and found a miracle cell without any enchantment except for the luck bonus from the mica material.
I'm going to turn it into a stat main/status immunities stick.

>> No.24390544

>>24389715
In Omake? Because I don't think you can do artifact fusion with ammo in Plus.

>> No.24393244

>>24388415
Huh, is it just me or does Jure, Lulwy, and Ehekatl's facial expression doesn't seem to match their in-game personality?

>> No.24393345
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>>24388415
Missing important Rorans like Little Girl and Younger Sister, terrible list.

>> No.24393468

So I started playing with Elona+ ages ago, and honestly I only understood how to interact with the world of the game (fighting, trading, drink/eat/use, moving around the map, using deeds, putting points into skill/feat/spell... etc) but I still haven't got a firm grasp about most stuffs yet. For example I still don't know jackshit about what makes weapon A better or worse than weapon B, still haven't wrapped my head around PV and DV, still have no idea what to do with pets, and then I dropped the game before I really started trying to understand it.
So with that in mind, should I try the game again with E+ or E+C? Which one is easier for a complete newbie to quickly access all the contents available (less grindy I guess)?

>> No.24394479

>>24393244
anon,its art

>> No.24395724

>>24393468

Well... It depends.
+c is stuck in an older version, but it' translated.
+ is 9 versions ahead, and has faster progression, but much into act 2 and you won't be able to understand any quests or new npcs. It gets better near the end of act 3 and beyond though, as ano started to make an attempt at english.

>> No.24402717
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24402717

Redownloaded custom g and then played with the music files more but it will only ever play shit from the sounds folder, never from the music folder under /user, and only the sounds thst were already under the sounds folder. It wont play them when I copy the music list and the new music into the sounds folder either. Genuinely unsure what the fuck is going on. From what I can tell the files in 1.99 are of the same kind of structure as the ones in 1.90.4.2, but only the ones in 1.99 are working. I genuinely have no goddamn clue what's going on. Anyone else have this problem or know anything about it?

I'm sorry to keep bringing it up here but there is almost nothing on google that helps me.

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