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suika warms my heart.

These damn youkai are encroaching on our human-only spaces. Be wary my human brethren! They intend to pick us clean, and leave us with nothing!

>>23960150
Fuck Mamishit. She has been forced for way too long every since Ten Desires. ZUN's 2nd waifu a shit! A big SHIT! Aya (shit) > Mamizou (big shit) >>> Sumireko (colossal shit).

>>23960150
suika is so fucking stupid, but honestly i don't think the people of the village cares much about her, don't she played with children one time?

>>23960257
God I want Rumia to pick me clean

>>23960304
This

This was an interesting chapter, i'm excited to see how this series will develop.
Suika a cute.

>>23961230
Would be fun to have her as a wife.

>>23961271
You'd be the wife.

>>23960304
I somewhat enjoyed her in 13.5 and Suzunaan, but yeah, she is way too overused now.
Here, I wanted to see her beaten by Suika, not them being in cahoots. A series about Suika working as a bouncer at a bar for shit and giggles would be more fun in my opinion.

>>23961278
that's fine

>>23961278
I'm fine in being the one to take care of the house and children,

>>23960304
ZUN favoritism not even once
12 month Sumireko arc soon

>>23961293
I like this idea. It would be a riot. I don't have strong feeling toward Mamizou either way, but it was very satisfying to see Kasen drink her under the table in Horned Hermit. It's probably because she's so smug all the time.

>>23961366
im the only one that likes sumireko?

>>23961490
Thing is, she's actually a small fry that want to look big. AoCF suggests that she was way too happy to run to Gensokyo as living in outside world got too scary.
I guess it's expected that a tanuki-trickster's power is an illusion.

>>23961366
roach pussy is ok, and the superior glasses shithead compared to mamizou.

>>23961563
Do you understand that she's exposing gensokyo to the outside world and defiling the pastoral paradise?

>>23961663
That's the whole point of Hifuu though.

I am literally in love with Ibuki Suika

>>23961695
we know miyoi

Are they forming a youkai team? Miyoi, Suika and Mamizou vs Reimu, Marisa and someone else?

>>23961716
The sages probably won't be thrilled about this.

>>23961121
Youkai are actually free to walk in the village, but being more brazen about it is risky. Ran does it, Yuuka does it, etc

>>23961586
Diff anon, this is true and why I like Mamizou. I don't actually get the hate for her; the whole point of her character is that she's basically a retired old woman looking to spice up her life again after having spent so long not being a big shot and also actually being genuinely scared in the outside world. She's also one of the nicer characters in the series, even to humans. It's not that she's good at scheming, she just wants to scheme, it makes her feel young again

>>23961663
>she's exposing
heh

>>23960304
Aya should show up too. Connection to the oni and drinking and willingness to be around humans. Last arc would just be a drinking contest between them.

>>23960150
After so many years of this trope I can't stop laughing at grown adults being afraid of a little girl with silly clothes

So this is pretty much the main buildup of the manga.
Fun chapter anyway, good ol' "and they all drink together" end.

>>23960304
It's not her fault if her character actually fits worlbuilding stories while most past characters are "they got up on the wrong side of the bed so they did a random for teh lulz"

>>23962178
I can't believe Miyoi is so desperate she needs to kidnapping little girls in broad daylight.

So that's why Marisa is so tiny.

>>23962256
>"they got up on the wrong side of the bed so they did a random for teh lulz"
They're silly plots, but nobody 's motives in Touhou have been as nonsensical as that. And Suika is a prime example of someone who's original actions were seemingly random on the surface but were reasonable on closer examination.

>>23962495
Honorary fairy

>>23962495
A burglar!

The fact that the manga outright states that the human village is a farm for youkai is interesting since I think this is the first in 2hu it's outright brought up by a human, even just in passing.
Also reminds me of reimuhater from like a year ago, which is not good.

>>23962715
>>"they got up on the wrong side of the bed so they did a random for teh lulz"
>They're silly plots, but nobody 's motives in Touhou have been as nonsensical as that
What about Yuuka? She literally just got out of bed and started fighting Reimu/Marisa.

>>23963096
>I think this is the first in 2hu it's outright brought up by a human
Didn't fortune teller and Kosuzu complain about that sort of thing?

>>23963096
>the manga outright states that the human village is a farm for youkai
It says that's a rumor, and it's also plainly untrue

>>23960150
So then who was drunkard? If Mami was just pretending she had kidnapped him and showing Miyoi an illusion, didn't the Tanuki squad really take him home? Did they have him on house arrest or something?

>>23963242
bear in mind I mean "as actual, bite it and swallow it food". They are kept for their fear and belief, though this is also all public record

>>23963250
They fucked with him at least a little bit in order to prompt Miyoi's protective instinct

>>23963096
The manga outright stats youkai don't eat humans as well. Grimsokyo BTFO forever.

>>23963258
Miyoi was just telling a white lie to calm the customer.

>>23963242
While it's probably more complicated than that, it's pretty clear from Miyoi's reaction that she was trying to cover something up.

>>23963364
And the customer was telling the gospel truth right?

Miyoi being this stacked on an official manga is doing things to me...

>>23963453
She's just trying to lessen it. It's basically a misinterpretation that could spread bad ideas.

>>23963453
We already knew from FS that the humans tell themselves this because it powers the youkai up and the youkai being strong allows them to protect the village because they need the humans

Also Miyoi is a Zashiki-warashi and doesn't want to call attention to youkai/spirits/etc so she wants to diffuse the situation

>>23963495
Ceiling Miyoi is watching you fap

>>23962495
cute

>>23963652
Does Miyoi live in the attic like a gremlin or something?

>>23962256
This. Also the thcrap ragequit guy would probably say you're supposed to create your own canon instead of whining about what waifus ZUN puts into his

>>23961663
>she posts about gensokyo on a blog that is read by 3 people
Yeah sure it is, by that logic maribel is killing gensokyo by publishing her book about her adventures.

>>23961757
Yuuka makes everyone shit themselves every time she goes buy flowers.

>>23961663
That's my main problem with Sumireko. She can come and go as she pleases and can even bring technology back and forth. Of course it's not much good without internet but it's still way too advanced.

People in Gensokyo used to be so excited for any tidbit of information from a newcomer and now people can just write a note of what they want to know for Sumireko to Google when she gets home.

She's defiling everything that was sacred and is weakening the metaphorical border between Gensokyo and the outside world. And yet everyone loves her and sings her praises all the time.

>>23965049
Go away Aya, you got BTFO by Hecatia already.

So they go through all this just so that they can scare away all the humans at night and drink? Lmao can't they just drink anywhere else? Fucking retarded lol trying to play Yukari mastermind and shit

>>23965301
What did the tanuki and oni do to the poor man

>>23965357
Probably some oni-tanuki tag team CBT

>>23960304
Mami was unironically based in FS you have to admit

>>23962235
>main buildup of the manga.
We're literally still at the first volume lmao did you forget about Reimu and Marisa's misunderstanding of Geidontei? They're definitely about to start some shit

>>23965301
Gensokyo is just this boring for powerful characters like them.

>>23965537
There's also the issue of Miyoi being a liar all the time.

>>23965301
Honestly, where else they could drink?
There might be youkai bar somewhere but they probably don't serve food as good as Geidontei. Same with hanging out at Reimu's.
Also, it does feels exciting to have a secret bar. It's also an ideal place for youkai to plot minor scheme while Miyoi watch over them.

>>23965301
Yukari pulled off an extended prank involving multiple power players doing all sorts of dumb shit just so she could steal a single bottle of sake.

All the real power players are just shitting around all the time.

>>23964936
>Yuuka makes everyone shit themselves every time she goes buy flowers.
Naturally. Just saying it's not uncommon for youkai to walk around openly.

>>23967447
I mean they have a youkai temple right in the village or close to it.

Today is HM 7th birth. Seven years and we are still getting "wtf, how can youkai go into village" kind of posts. Seven goddamn years.

Today is HM 7th birthday. Seven years and we are still getting "wtf, how can youkai go into village" kind of posts. Seven goddamn years.

>>23961695
Me in the back.

>>23967547
But then why Aya is wearing a disguise when going into village? Same goes for Reisen when she sells medicine? Is it just because otherwise people would shy away and try their hardest not to have any business with them?
Also, wouldn't seeing yokai doing peaceful regular shit like getting wasted on sake hurt their reputation and thus, hurt the food source that is fear of yokai?

>>23968096
Blame Forbidden Scrollery for this idiocy.

>>23968096
I'd take those cameos with a grain of salt.
While iirc Tasofro always ask for ZUN's input regarding everything, ZUN actually encourage Tasofro to have some liberty, though I don't know to what extend. I got it from one of the SCoOW interviews.

my wife mamizou is epic and beautiful and clever and she is making schemy schemes and the schemy schemes always work the way she wants and she can talk to anyone about anything and they always agree with mamizou because she is so cool

>>23970865
Cool. Except that HA was also shown in the manga. I really wonder what kind of liberty did ZUN take when he included Kappas doing hazard among villagers.

>>23964463
That's what I'll believe from now on

Kasen when? This is an oni manga after all

>>23970275
To built trust among humans, you can't keep selling medicines to humans or gather information regularly if they're supsicious of you. Yokai like Suika probably don't give a fuck about if they stand out or not.

The state of Villager-Yokai relations has been depicted in so many contradictory ways that ZUN must be doing it on purpose.

The different factions of youkai try different methods to build up trust and control in the human village. All of it is ultimately against the human's interests as they aim to keep them servile and impotent.

>>23970275
>But then why Aya is wearing a disguise when going into village
Because she wanted to get close to Suzu.
>Same goes for Reisen when she sells medicine
Nobody gave a damn when Marisa called her rabbit. Reisen is just a huge dorkus.

Seriously are we stucked in an endless time loop? These question are answered all the time here for a while and yet they are keep coming back.

>>23964463
She was probably just scared Marisa would kill her if she found her

>>23972931
Hi Milo, long time no see.

>>23965637
They should get a fuckin job

>>23965863
To be honest the sake part was yuyuko being a troll.
Then yukari used yuyuko's troll to scare the shit out of Eirin and make her understand she dont know everything.
>>23972811
It's because of how we see it from different point of views.

>>23970275
>aya
everybody knows she isnt to be trusted
>reisen
don't want for people to ask her for her body during the drug selling hours.
>Also, wouldn't seeing yokai doing peaceful regular shit like getting wasted on sake hurt their reputation
Don't kogasa take care of children? I mean, i guess it depends of the youkai.

>>23973622
>It's because of how we see it from different point of views.
Yeah, from one point of view youkai freely mingle with villagers and no one cares, and from the other point of view they don't even appear in the village openly. I'm so tired of this "point of view" justification.

>>23973663
What? Different people sees different things, not everyone notices the youkais even if their disguises are poor some people just don't.

>>23973739
Some people just don't notice a shitton of kappas selling them lottery tickets or building them a cable car. Some people just don't notice the Myoren Temple exists. Some people just don't notice Kogasa jumping them and yelling "Boo!" Got it.

>>23968096
the problem is the mangas keep the line blurred and contradictory

if suika walking into the village doesn't matter then miyoi shouldnt be yelling like a lunatic trying to hide her

>>23973761
I don't get your problem? Is it that some people don't think there are youkais on the village?

>>23973770
miyoi screaming is more like just how reimu acts, a bar/shrine with youkai will eventually make less human people come.

>>23973771
I don't even know how else to explain it, if it isn't clear enough to you at this point.

>>23965301
Miyoi's cooking is apparently better than Sakuya's so they want to hang out with her and drink. Though I think its Suika just trying to get some reimbursement for letting Miyoi hang around in her gourd.

>>23973797
ok

Is there a more CHAD yokai than Suika?

>>23973786
>>23973770
Miyoi doesn't want to be found out as a youkai herself.

>>23975632
Me on the right, depressed that I can't have oni booty on my face.

>>23975632
)乂) |介|

>>23961695
We know Kasen

>>23970275
I've explained youkai shit before like this.

Yes youkai can be "accepted" in the village, no nobody is exactly comfortable with it. Kappa provide goods, Kogasa provides services, the youkai rabbits from Eientei sell medicine. The issue is that youkai are fucking freaky and dangerous, and you can never be sure if they're going to put you through something horrible and/or kill you. Even if all Yuuka does is smile and frequent flower shops, she's unnerving and worrying. At least the other youkai I mentioned DO something so there's some implicit understanding that they *probably* will put you through no harm or foul.

>>23970275
>>23972951
>>23973644
just to double down it is indeed stated that everyone knows the medicine sellers are rabbits, they just don't care. Only Reisen cares because she's skittish and has a lot of baggage, and even then she eventually loosens up enough that you can even see her ears in her disguise.

>>23972562
it's a Suika manga, and Kasen hates Suika for some reason

Freaky and dangerous youkai that everyone is afraid will do something horrible and/or kill people getting in a snowball fight with small children.

>>23980016
Suika is pretty much one of least threatening youkais you can meet.
Even children finds her cute.

>>23980016
Kasen LOVES Suika

>>23980045
I see, oni aren’t scary to humans, good to know.

There's also the fact that Reimu will go nuclear if youkai start shit in the village. And humans know that youkai know that. So even if Yuuka could easily raze the village, humans know it would be suicide for her.
But on the other hand it is in the youkais' nature to want to start shit with the humans, and there's always the risk of one of them going berserk of being unaware of the rules.
Being around Yuuka is like being around a weirdo with a gun irl: they could kill you in mere seconds, it would be suicide for them, but they still could.
Which is also a reason for the different youkai factions to infiltrate the village: to monitor things from the inside and make sure no one is trying to one-up them.
Because humans are ultimately a ressource to youkai. Sure you could kill your cow and make a feast out of its meat, but then you don't have your food source anymore and you starve off. In the long term it's more sustainable to drink its milk instead, even though its meat is tastier and richer. Here the milk is fear and the meat is meat.
Reimu role is to ensure the cows don't get milked nonstop and still manage to lead a relatively peaceful and happy life, especially in this fancy meadow in the middle of Gensokyo.
As such each youkai/faction have their own reputation. Suika is known to just want harmless fun, rabbits and kappa are known to want to do business and ultimately not care much about being feared, Tatara is known to be useless, and Yuuka is known to be hard to get(thus people stay warry of her).

Anyway what I'm trying to say is: Suika is cute.

>>23980636
>>23980016
There's a big difference the instant the Shrine Maiden is present, which she is at that time. This is also why the otherwise potentially dangerous danmaku fireworks festival went off without a hitch.

Also everyone was put off by Suika being there so nice job cutting that out.

>>23980685
Once again that meme that Reimu is super powerful somehow.

>>23981004
He did not say she was super powerful, just that she will go nuclear.

You can defeat Reimu but it's difficult, and if you're on her wrong side you're on the wrong side of the law. Everyone will be after you.

so basically this is self insert mamizou and more hijinks? two bad mangas after WaHH looks very grim. also miyoi is bland and forgettable

>>23981210
Yeah, not excited so far, this seems to be a second FS except worse and with drinking instead of books. Nice art though.

Maybe not-Mima from CDS will turn out to be an interesting character.

>>23981232
its boring me hard. and the detective one is okay at best but nothing good. shame

Why does every single manga thread goes like this, if you hate it so damn much why do you even read it and post in every single thread

>>23981271
why do people have opinions? I personally just think its whatever but im sick of mamizou.

>>23981271
Why do people even complain about manga
Why do people even complain about movies
Why do people even complain about games
Why do people even complain about life

>>23981271
WaHH threads weren't like this.

>>23961663
Don't worry Lovecraft the pastoral is safe, sound and free of filth.

>>23980810
>put off
>people obviously didnt expect the oni to be a cute loli and are confused.

>>23983219
Who are you quoting?

>>23981138
It's not Reimu that's the problem in that case, it's her handler.

>>23981210
>miyoi is bland and forgettable
Nah, she looks more interesting than Kosuzu and Kosuzu is fairly popular. Being a cute bar keeper, house spirit and Suika's wife is a good addition to Touhou cast and fanwork material. Okamysty is old news, she should stick to singing now.

I am going to sexual the smelly oni!

>>23980810
>Also everyone was put off by Suika being there so nice job cutting that out.
They were put off because she looked like an idiot, not because she's a youkai. The bean throwing event was canceled but nobody told her so she looked like a weirdo yelling about nonsense. Marisa basically says as much in that image you posted.

>>23981210
I'm glad Mamizou keeps appearing because she filters out retards like you

>>23986500
its still a "meh" new character. would take her over mamizou or kosuzu honestly
>>23986864
"no"

>>23981210
We're not even done with the first volume yet lmao, WAHH also started really slowly

>>23986756
>They were put off because she looked like an idiot, not because she's a youkai
yeah that's why they're sweating and backing away from her

>>23988074
Do these people really look scared to you? They look confused and embarrassed by proxy.

They're backing off because she's making a scene.

>>23988158
honestly I don't care I already explained that when Reimu is around the dynamics are different

>great cook
>kind and empathetic
>brings good luck to your home just by living there
>big tits
Miyoi is prime wife material

>>23986500
>Miyoi is just youkai Kosuzu
This manga is literally FS 2.0

>>23997230
Imagine marrying a literal landwhale.

>>23999518
But whaletits

The art style gives me hentai gives, I feel like the characters are going to start making out any second

>>24000845
Vives"

>>23998946
Based retard.

>>24003260
Shut the fuck up hagfucker

>>24003317

>>23981271
Because manga discussion thread are always filled with crossboarders for some reason.

>>24000845
Honestly, I can't stop thinking about if that guy was getting gangbanged by female tanuki all day while he was missing.

>>24003842
Has the artist made doujin or doujinshi?

>>24005164
All the Touhou manga artists have probably made doujinshi prior to being hired, since that's most likely how ZUN knows them.

https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=14713

>>24005945
huh

>>24005945
>only TWO hentai doujinshi
It's ok, I'm happy

old lotus

>>23973815
>Miyoi's cooking is apparently better than Sakuya
When was this stated?

>>24026647
When she helped Marisa cook and it was better than Sakuya's.

>>24027262
But it never said it was better than Sakuya's cooking

>>23960150
I want to eat the whale

>>23981334
At the beginning they were. They'll leave soon though

Can we get someone who isn't ZUN to write these, this shit boring

>>24039679
Go read Zounose doujin or something.

>>24003260
based? based on what?

lotus car

>>23973761
some people don't know this website, even when it became this large already, exists. think about it.

poor miyoi
why is reimu such a bully

>>23972811
Zounose won.

>>24057401
Yeah Reimu and Marisa should've just stop inviting her to banquets. If she wants to cause trouble she can do it elsewhere.

>>24058853
it doesn't even sound like she was causing trouble
didn't you notice
she doesn't appear to have any control over what's wiping people's memories
maybe it's not her
maybe it's actually the bowl and the bowl is a cunt trying to make her take the fall

>>24059036
Ok whalefucker

>>24059946
i just feel bad for her
she seems like a good girl

>>24060274
>Pink hair
>good girl

>>24060887
Stop shitposting

>>23972811
>doing it on purpose
No, ZUN is just a terrible writer. The sooner you people admit this the less time you'll waste.
He uses "different perspectives" as a crutch to not have to decide a single ground truth about basic facts.
It's not even the exciting kind, where the perspectives can ALL be true, it's the whack shit kind where the perspectives don't align at all and are all presented as if they are equally true. You just end up getting confused and discussion about it inevitably goes nowhere, because the foundation is shaky from the start.

>>24073886
That's how mythology works. He does, in fact, do it on purpose.

>>24073886
>You just end up getting confused
You don't if you can read and have some basic comprehension. Only dudesters like this one >>23973771 end up like that.

>>23960150

>>24060887
Yes

But who were the Lotus Eaters?

>>24097919
Who was the silent sinner in blue?
What was the Forbidden Scroll?
Patience! You want longrunning manga but you want all the answers in one chapter!

Woke Human A is now my favorite character
I hope he fucks my waifu

>>24103533
Which is the best nameless human village guy?
>We live on a ranch, also I have a moustache
>I love Eientei's antidepressants, also I have a moustache
>Fuck hunger gods, I'm going to the shrine

>>24103604
There's also that old man that got mauled by a bear (or was it a tiger? I can't remember), and the fat old merchant that got killed in FS

>>24103615
It was Marisa who got mauled by a tiger, and the old man cured her.

>>24103919
Oh yeah, my bad. It's been a long while.

>>24103604
he's not nameless, but he's my favourite

>>24104491
Fav

>>23960150
Didn't enjoy it.

>>23960150
New?

>>23960150

>>23960150