/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>23887260
First to declare my love for Miku.

Len!

https://twitter.com/MikanseiP/status/1263012794611363843
IA bros It's happening!!

>>23887459
>Navel hole
Oh my fucking god

Megurine Luka!

>>23887576
I love her so much!

>>23887576
This is her best look in my humble opinion

Flower is GUMI 2.0. She's used for her voice right now, but producers will drop her when a better one gets popular. Then, we'll forget flower, and wonder why we ever thought she sounded that good in the first place.

>>23888893
I thought we all dropped GUMI as punishment for that awful psp game

>>23887576
Did the squid finally murder her and take over her body?

>>23889049
>Did the squid finally murder her and take over her body?
Eel

>>23887490
It's only his 3rd best hole!

>>23887260
Where may I find this daki cover?

>>23888893
if she is so popular when is her magical flowerai

>>23889346
OP pic does not look like a daki cover.

>>23889334
Which are 1 and 2 anon?

>>23889049
Not yet

Pink Love anon from the other thread, it's extremely adorable but Luka's voice is a tad bit too quiet in the chorus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-1TgSoZJZk
After listening to this, it got me thinking. While Otomachi Una (11) would make a great magical girl because she's 11, cute, funny, energetic, and wears colorful clothes just like Kinomoto Sakura (11), Touhoku Kiritan (11) would make for a truly unique twist on a mahou shoujo protagonist.

>>23889495
One of them is mouth of course, which is important as he needs to be able to eat bananas to sustain himself, and also sing.

>>23890004
>Touhoku Kiritan (11) would make for a truly unique twist on a mahou shoujo protagonist
you could even call it a deconstruction

>>23890066
A-and the other one?

>>23890179
The answer to this question is left as an exercise to the reader

Flat bunny

>>23887260
Has Miku been crying?

>>23890004
Can't wait till Kiritan replaces that screeching teal-haired whore.

>>23891798
Spread love not hate. The world surely is fucked, but you can make a small part of it a better place.

>here's your vocaloid 5 bro

cue yamaha telling companies they can't have non-anime characters as their voice mascots

>>23892702
>here's your vocaloid 5 bro
You can't be serious?

>>23892911

>>23892702
fixed bottom left

Anyone get Megamix? Any thoughts on it?

>>23893184
Gutted FT with songs resold as DLC. Buy groove coaster instead.

>>23893184
I'm enjoying it. But its my first Project Diva game so I have nothing to compare it to.

>>23893184
I bought FT and Megamix, most of the new songs are basically copypasted youtube videos, the motion controls are super gimmicky, but to be honest the portability of it makes it worth it for me.

>>23893184
if you've played ft then you're basically paying $40/$60 for a crappy shirt editor

Huh, so it's pretty sad why wowaka left the Vocaloid scene and started Hitorie.
https://natalie.mu/music/pp/wowaka_deco27/page/2

From what I'm gathering with my shitty Japanese: he felt disgusted that his popularity led others to produce songs with the sole intent of trying to emulate his success, even going so far as to emulate his style to achieve that end. This motivation for creating music was fundamentally different from producers of his era who were all equals simply expressing themselves through Vocaloid. Then he got sad and didn't want anything to do with the community anymore for a while.
Please correct me if I'm understand wrong. And please call me a faggot if people already know this.

>>23893686
RIP wowaka but it's a bit self-aggrandizing to think people were trying to soulessly emulate you to achieve success, specially when you're speaking from the top of the food chain.

>>23893686
Are you talking about this part? He's saying he felt that he had no choice but to continue making wowaka-like songs and wasn't really expressing himself anymore, not that others were copying him.
Just read vgperson's translation if you aren't sure on something.

>>23893866
VGperson translates hitorie interviews?

>>23893866
Yeah that bit. Thanks for the correction.
But what about when Wowaka says:
>そうそう。俺はもちろん、そんなモチベーションでは作ってなかったから。
Then the stuff Deco says after that about new people coming in with the motivation of "I want to get more views" and such?

>>23893984
No, but she translated this one, as it relates to Vocaloid. It's just wowaka and DECO, not about hitorie.
https://vgperson.com/vocalinterview.php?view=wowakadeconatalie
>>23893987
>wowaka: Right, right. Naturally, I couldn't make anything with my motivation being like that.
>— So there came to be a template of sorts. "Fill these requirements, and lots of people will listen."
>DECO*27: Right. People who saw the Vocaloid scene at its most bustling came in thinking "I want more views," "I want to be famous." That's fine and all, but I think it clearly resulted in more songs where you don't get a sense of "I like Miku" or "I like this culture" at their core. At least in my opinion.

>>23894009
So my misunderstanding of one single sentence fucked everything up. I hate Japanese. Use pronouns you lazy assholes.
But still, I was right in that wowoka felt like producers had less of a genuine and pure motivation for making Miku music after he got popular.

I’m trying to find a long video of Miku rambling. Surprisingly having a tough time. I like Miku’s voice and just want to relax and hear her talk for a while. Maybe it’s difficult cause I’m searching in English. Can someone help me?

>>23893040
Draw Luka!

Damn why do vocaloids cost like $120 plus tax

>>23893040
Tifa?

https://youtu.be/d1myVv0hZUc
my beautiful wife

>>23895008
has MMD ever looked good?

I'm trying to find a song. I think it was something like Miku was a VN character and was singing to the guy who installed the game and saying how happy she was with him because they guy was installing another VN, though I'm not entirely sure it was Miku.

Someone post the hachi copypasta

>>23894727
Musical instruments don't generally go down in price

>>23895049
This guy made a shader that looks pretty good but I don't think he ever did much with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK-86uKKj3E

>>23895170
sure but they're still using the awful cat-eyed miku model

now that I think about it I dont' think there's ever been a good 3d miku model

>>23895008
Finally someone with some taste around here. But the song used is pretty meh at this point. All the porn ruined it.

>>23894258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_M_RJoqbM ?
It's with len, but still.

>>23894727
Get them secondhand

>>23895142
Rainbow Girl?

>>23895219
I like YYB.

>>23893184
I don't have Future Tone, but even if I did I think I'd get Megamix. Although it has less songs, it comes with two new modes and that's honestly worth it for me. I'm having a lot of fun with mix mode! I also prefer the toon shader over FT's shader, because FT looks creepy to me, honestly. They made everyone's noses so creepily small and it just annoys me. I don't think realism and an anime style at the same time works. The toon shader was hard to get used to but now I find it cute! Graphics age, artstyle doesn't. Or whatever (although F2nd is still the best looking game overall to me.) If you want to try the two new modes I recommend getting it! I think if it sells well, Sega may consider making a brand new Project Diva. Here's a cute Miku and Rin. I have a lot of fun combining the modules!

Here is a cute Luka

thank you, very cute

>>23897374
Me on the left

https://youtu.be/SFyhRU2O--I
What does G stand for?

>>23897839
No idea, but I will make sure to find out.

>>23897839
Graduation, from Vocaloid. Another Mikunt delay confirmed.

>>23897839
Gumi

>>23897839

>>23897839
Gangsta, they're gonna release a special rap Miku voicebank.

Is it true that most voice providers have grown to hate vocaloid?

>>23898683
How the fuck is anyone supposed to know that?

>>23898683
Will any answer stop you from believing whatever you want?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L13gCEZJVRU
new orangestar ft your favourite wholoid

>>23898683
I doubt it. For example Naoto Fuuga (Kaito) refers to his character as his son (recently with the project sekai introduction video) and I remember a recent interview that mentioned how Asami Shimoda (Rin/Len) jokes with the rest of the cast about perverted songs with her characters.

https://twitter.com/vocaloid_cv_cfm/status/1263409317811638273
NT is late again. Wat has some stuff to announce next week.

>>23900572
At least they wouldn't make an announcement for the announcement of a delay, right? So it should release next week.

Speaking of Twitter.
#hatsunemikuredraw

>>23900777
Although I'd honestly be satisfied with just more information about the software, some demo songs and the full picture of the naked mikunt.

>>23899606
>wholoid

Rude but true. The song's fucking great though. I've really missed him.

>>23900777
>>23901066
them digits

>>23899606
Feels like it's been forever. I'm so glad he's back.

>>23901066
One of these things is not like the others

>>23896592
Holy shit, yeah that was it, thank you. There was also a "jazzy" version that I really liked but after all these years it must've been taken off youtube because I can't find it.

>>23900926
A lot of them are pretty good but it's like a minefield of tumblr art style.

>>23897839
GVR-Concert

>>23898683
No, why would you think that?

>>23901679
I like when Miku is smug. Just avoid any English comments and you'll find cute stuff.

Well I gave up on trying to find videos of Miku rambling. But I did find some acapella which isn’t bad
https://youtu.be/jF4gaRQ-yZA
https://youtu.be/D2Ns_YntXH4

>>23901935
I don't remember her name, but I was watching an interview of Gumi's voice provider. The interviewer asked about Gumi, and she (the VP) glared at him. I've also seen a lot of comments of people saying that Luka's VP has a love-hate relationship with her.

>>23902301
Fucking ear piercing

>>23902301
There are some videos of a vtuber miku if it counts, I found this video pretty decent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DLpICVMnpk

>>23902499
You can't count that as "most". Fujita wouldn't agree to show up at Magical Mirai if she hated Miku. Shimoda wouldn't have Rin/Len as her Twitter background. And judging by Chihiro Ishiguro's Twitter account, she's positively in love with Yukari.

>>23902301
I never noticed world is mine had audible inhaling.
Neat.

I wish more songs did that.

>>23902544
It sounds so bad man

>>23902499
AsaYuu doesn't really hate Luka, but she doesn't like being compared to her, or when people only think of her as Luka's voice. I imagine it's similar for Nakajima Megumi, constantly getting hounded about Vocaloid when you're a professional seiyuu who's been in a bunch of anime seems like it would get tiresome after awhile. At least that's what I've gathered from interviews over the years.

>>23902544
Ah thanks. I’m looking for something more relaxing but I do like this aswell.

Also I’m looking for minimalistic / simple music with her voice. Just stuff so I can appreciate her voice more on a more intimate level. Found some material on this channel
https://youtu.be/SauKy6opvK8

His tuning seems to be really nice.

>>23902639
Damn some good stuff on this channel
https://youtu.be/KCs9rqmUzeM
https://youtu.be/oSK75xWg7Mc

>>23902639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frdCgv8JFK8

>>23902607
The best you'll find is the deep learning voice converter solution used in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYva672FBw

>>23902601
Unknown Mother Goose has it, but you have to pay attention since it's so busy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suSZeZ-lm28

>>23892702
Ken is pretty good.

>>23900474
Where did Naoto say that? twitter?

IA

>>23903344
yes
https://twitter.com/fuganaoto/status/1252857487977443329

>>23903378
i wish the project sekai introductions were done by their voice providers. I just want more scenes of Asami talking like Len.

>>23903359
I feel like I should find her a lot sexier than I do

>>23903359
IA wearing symmetrical outfits feels off

>>23902544
Haha dumb nerds were just mad people were more talented than them. They seriously wanted Miku to stay as some tool for shitty memes?

Does anyone know of I buy a vocaloid, what the legal ramifications are? Am I allowed to use the voice in any project, including something I am selling?

Also these girls are pricey, the fuck. Doesn’t even include the base VOCALOID5 software.

>>23899606
>IA
>wholoid
?????? maybe if you're a secondary. she's the only non-cryptonloid who's had official US concerts.
anyway the song is great and if orangestar is back for good then vocaloid is truly saved.

>>23903606
IA has the softest thighs don't you all agree?

>>23904235
>Am I allowed to use the voice in any project, including something I am selling?
Each vocaloid should have their own specific rules, for example for cryptonloids you can sell your music as long as you don't use their trademarked names or copyrighted appearances (Miku NT on the other side is more restrictive and you have to credit her if it's a commercial product, and therefore contact Crypton).

>>23904386
I'm sure Luka's would be softer, the fat bitch

I remember there was a video game where all the music featured in it was sung by IA. Does anyone know the game? It was a JRPG

>>23904583
demon gaze

>>23904478
Soft in all the right places

>>23904324
Everyone that isn't Miku is a wholoid.

>>23904715
Rin and Len are definitely not wholoids. Gumi is borderline at this point, but still has some popularity and historical relevance.

>>23904766
We live in an era where Teto and Neru have outlived Gumi, what a time.

>>23904846
That's just plain false.

Wait so Miku isn’t actually a vocaloid? She is by Crypton who has their own software to use her third party bank. So she was never a vocialoid?!

>>23904478
Nobody cares about your flat chest, Yukari. You dirty slut.

>>23903378
He's amazing.

>>23904478
You were supposed to compliment your girlfriend now, yukari.

>>23904657
>you will never hug luka's soft places

Well I seem like a poorfag with starting off with Eleanor Forte? Vocaloid is too pricey. I don’t have 400$ to spend on Miku.

>>23905222
Isn't it a bit late to try to become a vocaloid producer? Vocaloid is basically dead

>>23905222
If your music sounds good no one will care

>>23905222
You can start with NEUTRINO AI Kiritan, since she is easy to use (neural auto-tuning) and free (it has no score editor but you can use open source ones like musescore).

>>23905251
If you're not using miku might as well just go with an utau

>>23905237
>>23905251
I literally do not care about that. I’m tryin to use it to possibly make some music for an indie game I am currently building. Could give it a unique feel. Or maybe use vocaloid as some type of voice for a character, I don’t know. I’m experimenting.

>>23905266
I’ll look into it, thanks

>>23905303
How about Maika? Her voice bank comes with english phonemes and for some reason she sounds clearer than most english vocaloids

https://youtu.be/hFA3GaOX8Ro

>>23905351
Doesn’t sound as clear as Eleanor Forte to me
https://youtu.be/eLmHTCDnTkY

But I dunno. I’ll look at some of her other songs, but that doesn’t seem too good

>>23905400
I guess if what you're going for is bg music vocals then yeah

>>23905222
>>23904235
Can't you use Voicebanks without Vocaloid5 anyway? You can just start them in your DAW. Other than that there's some starter packs that include Vocaloid4, like Gumi.

wasn't crypton making their own software?

>>23905525
I dunno anything about using vocaloids without the software, I haven’t heard anything like that.

This is a decent pack. Good girl and decent voice. And I would be getting the official VOCOLOID5 software. Christ though it’s a lot of money for a poorfag. I dunno bros

>>23902688
That Yellow cover(?) is amazing. I don't like the original at all but this is like a completely new song. Are there any other examples like this of a primitive Miku song upgraded to a newer version?

>>23905753
Jus listened to it and holy fucking shit

>>23905753
Not that I know of, but I haven’t checked out of all that guy’s videos. His tuning is amazing. He may have more songs like that

Just do it.

Appreciate Yukari's back.

I feel like the only one who's just here for the music and doesn't give a shit about the porn

>>23902639
I find this one pretty relaxing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIrjQVcc3U

Where can I find more about the ports made to Future Tone Arcade???

Was anyone able to port the Shake It! Version from the Project Diva VR to Future tone????

>>23906086
lies
everyone is here for the porn

>>23906086
What porn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUK41PQsBDQ&list=PLvFeQtMcij54S4c2cGnHiMNFxKXqzsoCT&index=5

>>23906086
I come here for the music too but the porn is a great aside

>>23906074
Luka's back is prettier

>>23906185
Proof

>>23905222

SynthV is pretty easy to use, I got further with it than Vocaloid 4 and she's really cute and sounds great. If you need help, I can share the little bit I know. But I think it's a good choice, you can just give up and not lose a dime if SynthV and Eleanor don't work out for you but Ellie can sound great with minimal tuning so really forgiving for new folks and it's all English so easy to play with for us.

>>23906339
I signed up for a Miku trial and downloaded it and can’t find the application. I opened everything several times and I don’t know where anything is or how to open the application.

I usually use macs but my PC is more powerful, so this is difficult to understand for me. Maybe I’m too dumb for all this. My trial is probably ticking as we speak

I can't remember how it goes at all but does anyone know the song that had a 2D MV that was a big robot guy and a girl in a junkyard in some dystopian world? I think they die at the end of the mv,

>>23906412

Well, I'm not an expert I only kinda played with V4 but did you get an editor? The other anons say you can use VB's by themselves but I dunno how. Editors are the real program and Voicebanks are like DLC you add to it if that makes sense. So you need Vocaloid 4 Editor or Vocaloid 5 Editor to do anything.

SynthV really is easy mode, it's all on one download page. Two exes and no money involved just to play with it. Same concept though, SynthV is the editor and Eleanor is a VB you add to it. Ellie's exe does all the work for you.

>>23906436
Katy Perry - ET

>>23906086
There is no porn, every vocaloid is pure.even yukari

>>23906412
Anon you can only run the trial on a DAW. Like FL Studio, Ableton etc. Programs to make music with. You have to export it into said program.
t. took 5 hours to figure that out

>>23906436
>>23906451
i think they get gunned down by these apocalyptic dystopian guys that want to kill all the robots or something

>>23906443
https://sonicwire.com/prod/A2229
This is what I downloaded. I assume it comes with it, right? I thought I saW the Piapro installer pop up at some point but now nothing makes sense. Maybe it’s just for her voice, I don’t know.

So from what I gathered...
>Miku is not a vocaloid, she is made by Crypton
>she can be used for VOCALOID 5 as well as their own program Piapro studio
>it seems they are setting up some other program that will launch in May
>vocaloid is expensive as fuck ($275)
>Miku’s new program preorder pack a somewhat cheaper ($200)
>Synth5 is cheapest and most user friendly, but you won’t be using vocaloids or Miku with it

May be a silly reason but I really wanted to try out Miku and use the official vocaloids, but I guess vocaloid is just the word people use for voice banks now.

>>23906443
Nah, the Trial comes with Piapro Studio but it has to be run in a music program/DAW and can't function on its own. Vocaloid5 sadly is not included.

>>23906531

Do you have an email I can hit you up at? I know people that make songs so they'll know a lot more and can probably help. And if you're the anon who wanted to try Synth I can tutorial it with you if you want that. It's been a couple years since I messed with my Miku trial so I don't remember.

>>23906497
Wait really? What about their own programs like Piapro? That’s not included in trial?

>>23906558
Okay sure. Email me at this email:
Bleachsofa@hotmail.com

>>23906574
Shot you an email. I'll be awake all night.

>>23906561
Piapro is included in the trial, but it can't function like a program on it's own (as in - you can't just click on it and it opens). You have to own a composing program like FL Studio or Ableton or other popular ones (I used FL studio and it worked) and import a file (.vst - should be burried somewhere on your drivers "Programs" folder) into said program. Then piapro studio opens IN the composing program and you can use your miku trial. There's free trials for most of the composing programs/DAWs I named.
Piapro Studio is a very basic tool to edit and dictate Miku's voice with, Vocaloid5 is also the same kind of tool but more advanced and detailed. But only Piapro Studio is contained in the trial.

>>23906436
>>23906451
found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quDNz_SZiFI

screw you guys

>>23906332
Universal truths dont require proofs

>>23906645
JFC. Wish I didn’t start my trial before knowing that. Ugh. Well thank you for the info. Wish it was it’s own program

>>23895219
>>23896610
I like Muubu's Miku

>>23904885
Teto definitely outlived Gumi

>>23906984
Name one recent popular Teto song.

>>23906476
>Every vocaloid is pure
Are you sure about that?

>>23907313
and people say megamix looks bad lol

>>23903359
small file
pls replace

>>23907352
They both look like shit compared to F2nd and XHD

>>23900572
https://sonicwire.com/product/virtualsinger/special/mikunt
Now updated to late May, I guess Wat's announcements will come with the release itself.
You know, unless she gets delayed again in the span of a week.

>>23902499
I remember Luka's VA had a life size cutout of Luka or she posed with one on Luka's birthday or something like that.

>>23908196

>>23907796
>/mikunt
Wait? They're no joke calling it Mikunt? I thought it was just a joke around here.

>>23908402
It's Miku New Type

>>23906086
Wrong! I hate the porn. Anyway, regarding music, I know it's not an unknown song by any means but I love songs like Aikotoba. Not a big fan of Deco's tuning or the instrumental, but the lyrics are adorable. I think it's very cute when producers take the time to thank their fans in a song like this, and hopefully it'll cause more people to actually notice them rather than just vocaloids.

>>23907067
Not an original song, but Tanjiro's tuning of her is great. I love how powerful she sounds, and I actually like her screaming here.

https://youtu.be/yCtuU6IeB4o

>>23906086
I'm here for the music and for Miku.
Porn is often tasteless and who really needs it if I can just imagine her being here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfX8j3SkpA

my god, kiritan is so good
miku is green with envy

>>23910181
Is there anyone better at Teto tuning than Tanjiro?

>>23910863
sounds like shit

>>23910863
Is there really a need to look for shitposting fights constantly?

I would let Miku spin my leek, if you know what I mean.

>>23910208
Same, time wasted on porn can be used to better myself for her or listen to her music instead.

>>23911388
you don't listen to music while masturbating?

>>23910871
He is Teto god. Also tunes Tei very nicely.

kiss kiss

>>23900474
>Asami Shimoda (Rin/Len) jokes with the rest of the cast about perverted songs with her characters.
So that means we're officially allowed to lewd Len now?

Absolute madman released another one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj5KVAnqB5o

>>23902793
Great song! Sounds like the more oldschool-style vocarock, I like it

>>23911404
I'm over that coomer life, anon.

>>23911620
Weren't we always?

Can I post Porter Robinson here?
Yes this is a funpost.

>>23907493
yeah right, maybe in terms of animation but the models, lighting and environments are absolute dogshit, not to mention F2nd's star notes and X almost completely killing the series.

>>23913082
Nah, left is 10 times cuter. Right looks like an alien with foetal alcohol syndrome. It's just not cute at all. The nose, lips and eyes are so weird and I don't think the shading always looks good.

Another comparison. To me, the hair and clothes look better on Future Tone. But F2nd's eyes and nose look less creepy and soulless. Also not a big fan of FT's shading on the face. F2nd looks warm and inviting, a really good representation of 3D anime style. FT makes everyone look like an ugly alien.

>>23913309
delusional, this looks like absolute garbage

>>23913357
They look like actual dolls. I wasn't a fan either

>>23913419
Looks cute to me

https://youtu.be/jV-Fz96oDPc

I don't understand why literally every project diva looks off.
There is tons of MMDs where characters looks good, cute and more 2D-ish. But in games their skin looks like rubber, shading is way too smooth, too shiny. I want dancing anime girls, not figures.

>>23913357
>>23913522
It's always so weird to me when people compare a PV that was built from the ground up for a game to a PV that was simply ported to arcade/FT.

Like pic related for example, kocchi muite baby was carried over from DT which was in turn a port from 2nd. Compare that to Kimi no Taion which can't be ported from Mirai so the lighting and environments were built from the ground up for Arcade/FT.

Even though F and F2nd share some PVs with older games they were built from the ground up specifically for those games, the mocap is probably the same but you can see they even added finger movements and facial expression detail.

>>23911625
This isn't new. It was on his album.

>>23902793
Really enjoyed this one.

has anyone here actually ever made vocaloid music?
I'm curious to hear anons work

>>23914645
Have you tried lurking more?

Is it just me or is Ura-omote lovers' timing off in megamix?

>>23914658
frankly ive never seen anyone post their creations
also whats the whole deal with the piapro site?

>>23915383
>>23879310

>>23915421
thanks, thats cute. though i cant say im a fan of fully english crypton-vocaloid songs
any other anon works?

>>23915491
https://youtu.be/1hJjQPtPaKg

>>23915528
PKAkatora is here?

>>23915528
is that the best this place has to offer?

>>23915528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mnoVAyydqs

You're all a disgrace.

>>23915491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_eyUVVcgc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fOsLdqDAM

>>23915810
what the hell happened

>>23888893
This happens to all the rock vocaloids honestly now that I realize(remember Lily?)
I'll still love her even if she becomes wholoid, if no one else likes her that means she's all mine

>>23915810
Surprisingly good, especially her english!
/jp/'s Queen

>>23889441
vflower DJ night already happened lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Ctfh-GdaI

>>23900474
based shimoda

>>23905525
No, an editor is required
However crypton's vocaloid releases come with piapro studio iirc, so if you get a crypton now you won't need v5(even though that'd probably be a waste bcs NT is (hopefully) coming soon)
>>23905682
yes

>>23906086
There's probably only about 3 people in this thread who aren't in it for the porn

>>23906086
The lewd posters is mostly that Lenfag.

>>23889441
already happened

Imagine how great Meiko and Kaito could be...

>>23916782
It's sad that nobody seemed to give a shit about her before she got her tomboy redesign, or what retards call 'non-binary.' I've seen so many people say shit like 'VFlower is a trans boy!' and I genuinely think it's the only reason she's become popular.

>>23916831
Why does this Miku look so creepy?

>>23916844
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Stop using Twitter in English.

>>23916888
Or maybe you should learn common terms, old man

>>23916844
The art for V3 flower kinda looks like shit desu

>>23916844
to be fair this looks like shit

seriously, what's with most vocaloid designs being shit? Even miku, her design is so awkward it rarely translates well into 3D mediums.

The only good vocaloid design I can think of is Nekomura, all other vocaloids look like dA OCs

>>23917075
I'm curious as to what you consider a good design then. I agree that VFlower has never been the best (I think it's the hair mostly) but I think all of the Cryptonloids save Meiko have good designs.

>>23917155
It's hard to set rules for good design, but I think the most important thing is that it has to convey something, all you can tell from v flower is that she's some kind of goth, she looks like a throwaway character from a mediocre manga.

Miku's design at least gets the message across but the overall shapes in her design (bell shaped hair, bell shaped clothes, bell shaped arm things) are not very pleasing to the eye, but I think she's mainly a product of the 2000s.

I don't know shit about good design but it's easy to spot a badly designed character.

>When butterfly on your right shoulder was a originally a rin song but only got really popular with a len cover
pretty much proves whose the better twin

>bought Mega Mix
>first time playing a Project Diva game
>get to JitterBug
One of my favorite songs in the game both to play and to listen to. Not too crazy about the hard mode chart for the song tho

Not sure if controversial but I'm actually glad they went with the original video instead of using the 3D models. I'm not sure they could give it any kind of justice judging by the other PVs in the game. Even looking at the PVs from the other games something about them bother me i can't describe it

>>23917226
I don't think Miku would be anywhere near as popular as she is without her design. Futuristic, yet cute. Very eye catching and iconic. The picture you posted is okay, I really like the hair and outfit, but I think glasses are incredibly ugly on anyone

>>23916844
just ignore eng twitter. btw I think her voice is quite unique

>>23916782
IA design is beautiful. ONE's original was the one from the world calling video?

>>23916782
too cheap. Her songs have millon of views, this is her best moment. Is it really that hard for her to fill a concert? Just once a year is enough and if there is luck maybe a game in the future. Her popularity wont last forever, just look at IA, her prime is over and 1st place wasted it

>>23916844
Agree with this so much, I see people say shit like "don't interact with me if you see flower as a girl" when she's canonly a girl, it's annoying as hell
Then again I think even in the Japanese fandom she was lesser known in V3 (compare the amount of v4 & talk fanart to v3)

I like v3flower's art, even though I can see why people dislike it(looks kinda like an early 2000s manga character..I guess? Not sure how to put it in words, but it honestly adds to her appeal for me)
I see a lot of people complain about the prevalence of cyber/futuristic designs in vocaloid, though, so I think that's why people took a liking to her
Plus I like tacky designs(Gumi V4's clothes are ugly as hell, it's so cute!)

>>23917226
I agree with this, but I also love that character design in pic related(even though its so obviously bad)

>>23916866
She ripped ass while passing that couple.

>>23917323
I feel the same. Glasses are an instant turn-off and completely ruin cute faces.

>>23912117
>oomer
You're over having any sort of sexual desire?
What a freak. I can't believe these insects have even infested /jp/. Lord help us.

>>23917739
Glasses are great and charming on just about anyone.

>>23916844
To be fair I only started liking her after Japanese twitter told me she was a girl.

>>23916844
I always thought that flower was created so people could enjoy Len's voice without being afraid of catching the gays

>>23917494
>"don't interact with me if you see flower as a girl"
LOL. Don't mind me. I'll just be here busting a phat nut to this "boy".

>>23917917
A futile attempt. They will get the gay eventually. I personally don't like flowers voice, I prefer Mikotos for that tomboy sound.

>>23910863
Can't we all just get along?

https://youtu.be/q6iYR2q-6l0

>>23917980
Not with vtubers, no

I love her, anons

>>23917980
>vtuber
>AI kirit*n
>h*chi
wow, the cancer triumvirate.

Drawfag here.. dunno what to draw, I'm taking suggestions as long as it's not a wholoid

>>23919477
Draw a picture of miku bullying other loids like this

>>23919477
what about IA doi-
>no wholoids
ok nevermind

>>23919477
Can you please draw Rin wearing Paul Bunyan's outfit? (pic related)

>>23917923
What a gay post

>>23919477
Miku with a monocle in a library. Bonus points for a cheeky white mustache to go eith t monocle

>>23919477
Len with a Honda hat

>>23919477

I mean, if you're good I'll pay you to draw me wholoids. They're my favorite.

>>23919491
That picture is too good. I think he would be too intimidates to try.

>>23919477
Miku beheading kiritan ISIS-style

>>23919570
Flower-kun wants my cummies. It would be gay not to give
>him
some.

>>23919491
sorry I know this isn't exactly what you asked for but I tried

>>23919968
That's pretty good, anon!

>>23919968
And fat and ugly

>>23919768
Hmm, fair enough. Just as long as you admit that Len is better.

>>23919968
Miku is shorter than Luka, so shes probably standing on a stool or wearing some high as heels. Probably an artisitic flaw but it adds to the whole atmosphere. I like it.

>>23917155
Agreed that the biggest problem with V3 flower's design was the hair. A big flowy ponytail right on the top of the head just looks weird. Same with the white frilly bits on her skirt. V4 design fixed her by making it simpler. Imo there's no need to convey anything in a vocaloid design, since they're blank slates - the main factor is aesthetic appeal. Another thing holding V3 flower back was that IA and Gumi were popular at the same time.
>>23917273
Truth.
Also, not sure if anyone posted the new john? I thought it was groovy. Has a nice addictive feel.
https://youtu.be/TIokmMRp8OM

https://youtu.be/7yLnea9NO_M
Cillia does it again.

i do apologize for any inconvenience i cause, but i have a question and it seems this is the best place to ask.
a long time ago i came into one of these threads and heard some songs, the one i liked the most is the one im able to recall the most.
it was originally on nico with an id of something like sm60. but the person who posted it used a youtube link with the nico link being in the description.
sorry for my drawing skills but the video was mostly the same image of a forest and had a distinctively blueish tint with some sunlight fading in throughout the video. i think there mightve been some girl in the video where i barely sketched it in but i cant recall that part of the video.
as for the song it went like DUN dun DUN (x2) DEN DEN DUN and some other techno parts and then eventually you hear a vocaloid girl start singing (hoshinoooooo kadu KE noooo).
in unfortunate events i have lost the video when i was moving files and i had no good backups for other unfortunate reasons. going through the archives (2018?-2016) didn't help and some of the youtube links i had clicked through were removed.

>>23921001
Record yourself singing what you remember on vocaroo and post the link.

me scouring the internet for more vflower porn

Years after and still the sexiest Rin. Ignore Gumi.

>>23920151
I don't like men.

>>23919968
I bet you couldn't draw a feminine face to save your life.

>>23920963
I love VY1!

>>23921633
You're contradicting yourself

>>23919477
PoV Miku hug would be super cute.

>>23922366
It would be but I don't think I'd want this >>23919968 face looking up at me

>>23919477
Please draw Miku wearing a wristwatch. Please.

>>23922376
Well, one art doesn't mean he can't draw cute feminine faces at all.
I'll give him benefit of doubt because I really want pic like this.

>>23922320
I take it you don't know what sarcasm is. Flower is a girl.

On the topic of character designs, I feel like Luka's design could have been an absolute disaster. I like her hair, body and eyes but I always thought her outfit was odd. Crypton gave poor Kei really odd instructions.

>>23922571
>Her dress was designed to look old-fashioned to make her represent the past.
Luka is a thing of the past all right.

>>23922441
Post proof
>inb4 no u

>>23922689
>he didn't know
https://twitter.com/v_flower_jp/status/457563608008773632

>>23922687
My wife is timeless

>>23919968
Now draw them making up :^)

>>23922738
I smell bullshit. He looks like a boy no matter how you look at it

>>23921001
https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8327821 ?

>>23922571
I'm really happy how she turned out and reading these symbolics only make it better. Her color scheme is beautiful and easy to recognize, the textures are nicely balanced, the hint of thigh on her skirt is extremely underrated and overall her design fits in perfectly with the Cryptonloids before her. Luka is the best! THE BEST!

>>23923448
>gets proof rubbed in his face
>still wants to cling to his gay fantasies
You like girls, faggot. How does it feel to know you're heterosexual?

>>23923757
My fellow Lukafag, you make me happy! I like her black, gold and pink colour scheme.

>>23921001
Is this what you're looking for?
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31191645

>>23923448
>He
Anon I have bad news for you...

>>23923872
I dont know much about this sexuality business, but what I do know is that I want to fuck Lens cute tight boy pucci until he gasps for me to stop and then continue slamming it until he squeals in pleasure and cums. After that I will give him a few minutes of rest while constantly nibbling his right ear and wispering sweet nothings into it. Then proceed to flip Len over and skull fuck him until I'm satisfied while making sure he is enjoying every second of it. Oh, I feel the same way towards flower too I guess. He is still inferior to len tho

>>23924389
You just like Rin.

>>23924455
No

>>23922390

>>23925247
Thank you anon. I love it.

>>23925247
Cute

>>23925247
Cute. Now add a monocle and a mustache and it'll be perfect

Who is the most loli vocaloid? I don’t mean a loli version, like Loli-Miku.
But their default design / voice being loli.

>>23926318
Una

>>23926318
Rin/Kiritan

>>23926347
He already said no loli miku.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iat7bXYsKFU

accurate translation > artistic liberties
Don't be like this guy, kids.
"A transcendent universe, gloom of the empyrean"? What the fuck is that shit?

https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E5%8D%83%E6%9C%AC%E6%A1%9C_(Senbonzakura)

>>23921625
It's up there

>>23926656
those japanese sure are funny telling the same joke 82 billion times

>>23926347
>>23926424
Kaai Yuki you plebs.

>>23927670
This design just punched me in the face and sent me back in time too 2009

>>23921625
Oh nice. I wanted the artwork for that video

>>23927670
She's adorable! Thank you God for making me a lolicon.
https://files.catbox.moe/hgdhk2.png

https://youtu.be/7HOLXHNpp70

It makes a lot of sense that Hachi is autistic.

>>23929075
Someone post the hachi copypasta

I didn't know this. I thought the patterns on Miku's arm cover and skirt was just random future stuff to look cool.
https://twitter.com/ren9646/status/1198783422732234752?s=20

>>23929610
I always assumed they are buttons and stuff from audio equipment.
Sometimes there's also a piano keyboard pattern

>>23929610
I think all the cryptonloids have synthesizer elements

see >>23922571

Such close friendship

https://youtu.be/G0yo8BREgD0

Am I too sensitive if I find this song a little offensive? I just wonder what the actual poor people involved in the real story it's based off feel about it. It feels like 70% of vocaloid fans are literal children who crave 'edgy' things to feel different.

Wow, Kiritan is back with her amazing singing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUKN-BOxjoc

>>23930267
Amazing. RIP Miku

>>23926318
>>23926347
>>23926424
>>23927670
Rin is an old hag.
The only loliloids are Una (11), Kiritan (11), Yuki (9), Petit (8), and Rana (0). Yuki is probably the loliest overall because she's voiced by a real loli.

>>23930267
some of the audio artifacting sounds similar to utau, not sure if it's the tuning

>>23923917
yes thank you very much i need to download and properly back it up so i dont forget again.
>>23923528
no it was the link from poster above
>>23921156
i mightve but thankfully the guy found it

>>23930803
sing for us please, it's the least you could do after I provided the link

>>23930157
When I read your post, I immediately knew it was a western producer. I'm awaiting the day the edge trend dies out.

Stop fucking caring about the western community.

Which vocaloid songs make you the happiest?

Yellow and Packaged always make me happy. Very cute lyrics and beat, thank you KZ. Electric Angel too.

>>23931188
Yellow is my go to fap song. Miku's outfit in that has always made me diamonds.

>>23931188
Mikufiesta, most of LamazeP's stuff.

>>23931178
No. I will hope for original, nice, catchy and fully english songs until I die.

>>23931188
Tell your world

>>23931211
¡Hey tú! ¡Ven acá!

>>23931178
Stop caring about what I care about. I care about the English community because they still affect vocaloid and how it's viewed to an extent. I'd also really like to talk about vocaloid with more people, but I have no idea where to go. I disagree with most of the western community on a lot of things and I don't like social media. Here isn't that great either but I'm not going to get into that.

>>23931188
Mostly LamazeP. Love Song, Start love of Program, Nice to Meet You.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB6awDzkVWc

>>23930847
Based anon. Free service is a lie.

>>23931371
>I'd also really like to talk about vocaloid with more people, but I have no idea where to go
there really isn't anywhere else to go.

>>23931188
Hey buddy

>>23931188
tricolore airline is one of my favorites, so comfy

>>23931188
There are a lot of songs that make me feel happiness, but this video make me the happiest. It was the video that made me realize how much shes done for me and just how much she means to me. She was by my side all these years and I am what I am because she was by my side.

https://youtu.be/gdJpGXoTUtE

>>23931515
Still a very niche community, as always.

>>23931588
But who's version? Better be Luka's.

>>23931619
sorry anon but it ___is____

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV83a5dL3vE

>>23931336
>Mikufiesta
Extremely this. I grin like an idiot whenever >>23931336 adorably fumbles out of her mouth awkwardly.
And then at the end that "I'm Hatsoonay MEEkoo!" makes my heart constrict out of pure d'awww.

>>23931587
Oh yes, definitely. Everytime I hear that "yeah!" I can't help but smile.

>>23931659
You're a good one.

>>23930803
You're lucky I knew the guy who posted it back then. He's range banned at the moment but told me to post it to you.

>>23930555
>Petit (8)
Made a mistake here. She's 10.

>>23930157
Reminds me of the person who made a song about a livestreamer's suicide a little bit

>>23920692
Eh, I liked the design. Reminded me of goth lolita and I thought it looked feasible for someone suited for rock songs l ok ke she was advertised. However her feminine design did contrast with her boyish vocals, but that was gap moe for me.
Of course I still love the v4 design, but v3 had its charm too

Speaking of gnc flowers, how do you feel about villain (and maybe unicorn) becoming one of her big hits? Im just happy teniwoha is receiving more dues for it since I enjoy his songs. Too bad the detective thing didn't pan out

>>23930847
https://voca.ro/mAUhfspU2os..
sorry if my voice sounds low, it was either it be super low or super loud.
>>23931964
well thank you and the banned guy for it. i probably wouldnt have found it; such a shame that sifting through 2018-2016 archives couldnt help me find it.

>>23931964
>He's range banned at the moment
For what?

>>23931188
Aikotoba or look this way baby.

>>23932371
You sound just like my son wtf Ricky is that you?

>>23932383
Miku's been slipping leg day

>>23932518
Yeah

>>23932518
no i am not your son nor is my name Ricky. maybe this guy >>23932575 but not me

>>23932617
ignore this guy he's lying he is your son ricky
i miss you papa

>>23932617
>>23932623
Okay anons you can stop trolling me now. Just gave him a call and no no he isnt any of you. But you do sound freakishly similar to him.

>>23932371
>https://voca.ro/mAUhfspU2os
is this a new vocaloid?

>>23932857
睾丸音 トクメイ

>>23932974
>睾丸音 リッキ

>>23933024

>>23930555
So that's why Una's hat is so big?

>>23933454
This is why I browse this website

>>23931587
Remind me what song this was? I loved the video but I forgot

Last month I spent a week learning to sing Unhappy Refrain phonetically even though my Japanese is only good to understand like 18% of it

>>23934871
YY 23.exe

>>23932371
>sifting through 2018-2016 archives couldnt help
He posted it in 2017 actually.
http://arch.b4k.co/jp/thread/17277866/#17297127
>>23932376
His ISP is range banned. Someone else on his ISP maybe did something.