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>>2375203
That's not Sakura.

Jealous Rinfags.

>>2375203
How is Heaven's Feel compared to Fate and UBW? I just finished UBW this morning, taking a break before I go on to Heaven's Feel.

I liked her the least too. by far.

Saber and Rin are pretty close for me.

she just seems like some kind of dumb spineless slut with no depth to her at all. she is one to be pitied not respected.

>>2375329

It doesn't suck that much really but the other 2 were better imo. the really funny thing about it is that even though it's sakura's route it's really Rin that shines in it. (and dark Saber whoo yeah!)

>>2375329
UBW is the best route. In Heaven's Feel Gilgamesh gets offed early on, Lancer has no screen time, and COOKAN.

Sure, Shirou is bad assed, and Archer redeems himself after his asshatness of UBW, but . . .

Heaven's Feel is ridiculously boring until the last 2 days.

She's easily the worst heroine in the game.

>>2375449
>>2375450
>>2375463
You guys are heartless. You'll never know love in your life.

Sakura is the best of the three heroines.

>>2375450
Redeem?
For what?
Archer is awesome because of UBW.

They're all sluts.

Pic unrelated, not a slut.

>>2375487

by that logic, she must be the biggest slut of them all.

She's a little too "traditional" for some. She's sort of an old-school ideal woman; cooking, cleaning, devoted to her man, waits to be rescued instead of taking action, modest style of dress, etc.
Some people apparently prefer a more modern, empowered woman who stands up for herself, fights her own battles, lives independently, and is a little more fun than strictly modest.

>>2375449
Rin didn't do anything interesting in HF until the very end of the route.

I also don't see how you think Sakura doesn't have any depth. She probably has the most depth out of the three heroines. Certainly more than Rin, Saber is debatable.

>>2375478
Well, I thought the consensus of/jp/ was that Archer was an emo faggot because of UBW. Me, it just made me love him more. He was an asshole but he couldn't go that last extra mile. And I was bawling at the end of the route when he couldn't be saved.

Just, Lancer, after his awesomeness of UBW gets shafted in HF.

Fuck you people and your irrational hatred for Sakura. Only on /jp/ could a victim of incestual rape be considered a slut. She cooks and cleans for you, worries about you, and truly loves you.

Saber spends most of her time stuffing her face and acting like ditz, letting you know she's going to abandon your ass so she can wallow in misery and go back in time to die.

Rin has some redeeming features in teaching you magic, but she has the annoying ability to make herself sound like a complete cunt anytime she opens her mouth. I'm sure if the game was any longer she'd constantly harp to Shirou about how much better Archer was. Bitch.

While these two clowns are only fucking you for mana, Sakura is doing it for love. She also doesn't bitch about jackhammering. Plus she's moe as hell in an archery uniform.

tl;dr

Sakura > Rin > Saber

Turned Shirou into a weak-willed pussy and ruined HF route.

>>2375508
> I love "liberated" feminist wanna-be men whores

The High Points of HF

-Rider
-Kotomine
-Ilya
-Sakura

>>2375496
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW

>>2375541

Can't take back the truth, you slut.

>>2375521
Wow, copy pasta is copy pasta.

So, here's some DAWWW with Archer and wee Tohsakas to make you all go "HNNGGG".

Heaven's Feel is Kotomine route. Ofcourse it's the best route.

>>2375517
Your scope of 'interesting' is weird.
She's the most active one in all 3 routes, throughout the whole damn route, and has much more chances to be interesting too.

Well, whatever.
Opinions , as always.

>>2375555

>>2375521

Oh yeah, sure she is. She's only doing it because she's a whore, and for "magical energy".

Rin is my favorite, but I don't hate Sakura.

She makes some boneheaded decisions, but everybody in F/SN does.

I never understood the slut thing.

>>2375592

Ronery men don't like women having sex.

>>2375546
If by "the truth" you mean "lies".

>>2375592
Biggest slut of all.

>>2375599

every heard of this river called "De Nile"?

>>2375595

But they all have sex!

With the protagonist!

That's how these things work!

>>2375609

Sakura was raped, and not by the protagonist.

therefore, Sakura = Slut

>>2375612
But she had sex with exactly as many people in her route as Rin and Saber did in their routes, therefore if Sakura = slut then Rin and Saber = slut.

Hell, Rin had sex with Shirou in a dream in Sakura's route, so she's an even bigger slut!

Awesome characters per route:

Fate:
- Ilya
- Rin
- Saber
- Rider
- Gil
- Kotomine

UBW:
- Archer
- Caster
- Rin
- Berserker
- Gil
- Shinji
- Assassin
- Kuzuki
- Lancer

HF:
- Sakura
- Rin
- Ilya
- Kotomine
- Shinji
- Rider
- Hassan

>>2375618
...Dreams count?

>>2375618

I'm pretty sure Rin and Saber only had sex with Shirou.

Shirou's wet dream in HF was caused by Rider, who is Sakura's servant.

Sakura knew, which is why she was so insistent on knowing who the subject of the dream was, and why she gets so upset if Shirou tells her.

>>2375632
If you have a wet dream about a girl, she's a slut.

>>2375630
SO in other words, any character that gets FOCUS on that route.
GEE, what a surprise.

I don't hate her, I just find her really boring compared to all the other characters.

Hollow Ataraxia cemented that opinion of her since without the whole grail thing, she just has nothing left anymore but "girl who cooks". Hey Senpai, let's talk about cooking! Let's cook dinner! Let's talk about cooking some more! Let's talk about archery... and then, cooking! GODDAMN I LOVE COOKING

>>2375632
If rapes count, dreams do too.

>>2375605
I'm sure you're very familiar with such a river.

>>2375609
Guess who DOESN'T have sex.

With anyone.

Ever.

>>2375650
...Er, no, not really.

>>2375652
Illya?

>>2375647

Girls are usually like that, though, because the main focus of their lives is their love life. It's fairly uncommon, but not entirely rare, for girls to be notable or interesting for anything more than their attractiveness.

>>2375652

Not you.

>>2375652

Wait, I know the answer to this one!

it's Taiga!

>>2375652

Oh. And I was just about to ask who you were. But it looks like it doesn't matter.

>>2375653
How do you figure? The girl has no choice in either scenario.

>>2375669

According to her brother, Sakura submits and enjoys it on occasion. Whether this is a fair way to judge someone who has no choice but to take it all her life is questionable, but the point stands.

>>2375712
>According to her brother
That sure is a reliable source.

>>2375720

In the context of the scene, it seemed pretty legit. She only resisted that last time because she had Shirou.

>>2375730
She only resisted that time because that was the first time she was able to resist. She took the first opportunity she had to kill her brother, so obviously she didn't want to be raped.

>>2375740
>She took the first opportunity she had to kill her brother
Wasn't that subconscious or something?

>>2375661
You've got no proof.

>>2375666
Oho, the queen slut has arrived.

>>2375740

How do you know that was the first time she was able and not just willing to resist?

Was there some reason she could cast "shoot my brother in the fucking head with magical head-piercing bullet" right then and not any other time? At all? Even through the whole course of F/SN?

She didn't want to kill him. She snapped when she finally did. She didn't put that much importance on resisting until she had a reason to. She didn't have such a reason until she finally felt the need to be faithful to Shirou.

Until then, it was, to her, domestic abuse that she just took on the chin and tried not to regard as a big deal.

>>2375768

Holy shit, don't move! I think you have drills in your hair!

You wanna hold still while I get 'em out?

>>2375650
You are missing the entire point. Sakura is a slut not because she was raped, but because she decided to keep quiet about it.

>>2375768

Who would know better than I?

>>2375768

>>2375811

"Police? Yes, this is the Matou household. Please help. My grandad is raping me with magical penis worms."

>>2375811

isn't there also a lot of pressure on Rape victims to keep quiet in Japanese Culture?

>>2375820
She could just run away from home.

>>2375830

and if she were caught, she'd probably get it worse than if she hadn't.

>>2375774
I guess you're conveniently forgetting about the crest worm and Zouken having control over Sakura.

>>2375824
You could rape a girl on a train and she wouldn't make a peep the entire time.

Sakura is not a slut!

>>2375824
There is, but that does not help her cause.
It is a slutish feature for a woman to let somebody she doesn't love to do things to her body, be it inserting magical penis, Shinji's penis or whatever.

>>2375836

I highly doubt that.

>>2375836
You can make up dumb BS on /jp/ and people will believe you.

>>2375833
Even so, it was a chance (maybe the only one) she had.

>>2375840

Fan-made Doujins are great sources of information.

>>2375834

She still had the crest when she killed Shinji.

Then she dug it out of her own chest.

She really could have resisted at any time, if you don't consider the psychological aspects of it.

Some people just take it on the chin and keep quiet about it. These are not sluts, they are just nonconfrontational people. That's what Sakura is.

Moreso because the rape-torture began when she was a child. Resistance was unimaginable to her.

>>2375816
>>2375813

>>2375203
I hate sakura for complicated reasons. When /a/ and /jp/ were together there was a "Sakura is a slut" meme. I didn't like it. Then sakura fags retaliated by forcing "Yuki is a slut". And now that's ameme.

>>2375872

Look, people prioritize shit differently.

You can sit your smelly, fat ass at your computer typing up what a hardass you'd be, jumping out of windows and blowing up cars on your awesome escape from rape worm hell, knife clenched in your teeth as you beat your chest with one hand and swing from a rope on the other,

but Sakura just isn't that gung-ho of a person.

>>2375882
But by that point in time Shinji had failed Zouken so he didn't care if Sakura killed him. Prior to that there is no way Zouken would have allowed Sakura to kill Shinji. If Sakura had tried to resist any time prior to the events of HF she would have been killed (or at least as far as she knew). Sakura is nonconfrontational, but I think most people would choose rape over death.

So, you are a man. You have a wife and children, which you love. Someone is threating you, imagine it is the mafia. They are going to kill you and your family in a matter of minutes. You have the choice of saving yourself only or saving your family instead of you.
Do you think you would be a coward if you decided to save yourself and left the ones you love to die?

Sakura's dilemma is similar to this. She prefer being raped over trying to do something about it, which could cause her a greater harm. She prefers accepting defeat over standing and fighting. She prefers having her body used over and over instead keeping her pride. Therefore, she is a slut.

I hate Sakura but I like Heaven's Feel's story.

>>2375934

that doesn't make any sense. Sakura was being threaten from the time she was adopted, she was a freaking CHILD, with no means of protecting herself, and grew up with it.

Lancer, kotomine and gilgamesh make better females then rin, saber and sakura.

Hell even as males they'd make for a more interesting scenario.

Lancer: Shirou tracing Gay Bulge and stabbin some people then Getting shitfaced and picking up ugly girls together at the bar after the grail war ends. BROMANCE!


If thats not the best non-harem end ever then I don't know what is.

She was abused as a child. I think that's what you faggots don't understand. Humans are REALLY adaptable: being abused as
a child and continuing into adulthood would make it seem almost normal to her. She didn't like it, sure, but it was something almost normal to her, and resisting was a stupid idea to her. She even tried to stay faithful to Shirou when he began to show his love to her. There's no way THAT is slutty, even if she is an erotic black hole

>>2375962
You are the one not making sense. A child may refuse being adopted if bad things are happening to her, and even children know how to differ good parents from abusive parents.
Unless, of course, conformity.

>>2375994
While I agree with the adaptability part, by your point of view, no girl would be a slut. They all would have grown in an enviroment which puts much importance in sex.

>>2376032

Of course (some) girls are sluts. If Sakura was enjoying what she was doing (As she knew it was wrong, but didn't think it was 'right' or even possible to oppose it), THEN she'd be a slut

>>2376058
Well, she certainly didn't hate it to the point of having to do something.

>>2375978
In the Lancer route he makes Archer get that stick out of his ass and tells both Archer and Shirou what it's like to be a real hero. Which is fightan, saving babes, wait SPOILS, getting drunk then gettng laid.

>>2376081

Yeah, that was because she "didn't think it was 'right' or even possible to oppose it"
What could she have done, anyway? Run away? She might've been killed for all she knew. Thinking her life is more important than her pride may be cowardly, or selfish, or even stupid if you wanna go that far, but it's certainly not slutty.
And, let me say, I'm not even that keen on Sakura. I love the idea of a girl cooking and cleaning, but that's not ideal to me. I much prefer Rin

>>2376058
Of course she was enjoying it. She only decided to kill Shinji because she knew Shirou wouldn't accept her the way she was acting.

Jealous bitch. Blame Rin for her all problem.
Try to rape Rin. Also, even Nasu say Sakura is a like pro prostitute. If that doesn't qualify you as a slut I don't know what does then.

>>2376100

Bullshit. It pains me to have so little to say, but that's just bullshit

>>2376091
FIGHTEN AND DRINKEN AND BITCHES AND DRINKING!

Why is there no Eroge based on getting drunker and drunker?

While playing Heaven's Feel i noticed Sakura was really evil even without the influence of Angra Mainyu.

>>2376096
You are basically saying she couldn't stab Shinji with a knife.

>>2376131

Zouken is the problem I'm thinking of, though

>>2376105
Why the fuck is everyone trying to rape Rin? Her own damn sister, Shinji, and Shirou goes all JACKHAMMER when she's giving him her virginity.

Kinda unrelated, but when Shinji had Rin kidnapped, I thought that's what I'd be like if I were in his position and didn't have my morals. Unfortunately, I do have my morals, and I'm not in his position ;_;

Well... It'd suck to be Shinji, anyway

>>2375508
I want my waifu to be somewhere in the middle. That would be really hot.

>>2376164

So... A normal woman?

>>2376105
Why the fuck is everyone trying to rape Rin? Her own damn sister, Shinji, and Shirou goes all JACKHAMMER when she's giving him her virginity.

The poor girl . . .

(I am kinda sad that Archer didn't molest her or anything when she was tied up. That would have been hot . . .)

>>2376116
See? It would have been awesome! Like Lancer taking both EMIYA and Shirou under his wing and going, "Here's how you do it . . ."

He makes Shirou get both Sakura AND Saber and Archer gets Rin and then later on Luvia while Lancer gets Ayako and Rider. Then Lancer introduces them to Scotch, Guiness and mead. Alcohol makes the Emiyas horny and . . . Boom. Sex.

Oh, yeah, before the sex, Lancer teaches them both how to properly pleasure a woman.

>>2376172

>>2376164

Congrats, your ideal waifu is Lisa Simpson.

>>2376178
>Lancer teaches them both how to properly pleasure a woman.
Im sure you'd like that, faggot

>>2376189
It would be more like Lancer saying, "Okay, there's this little nub right at the top, not really near where you put it in her, but that's going to be your best friend ever . . ."

>>2376189
well Cu is technically the only one of the heroes in fate who knows what he's doing when it comes to woman.

This is the guy who lost his virginity vs an army of naked woman.

>>2376215
Hell, if a scarier version of Rin lets you sleep with her AND you're her damn student, I'd say you were doing something right.

The Hound is awesome.

GILGAMESH NORMAL END: You turn into holy grail.
GILGAMESH TRUE END: You get thrown into the Gate of Babylon for eternity.

By the way people, the body's reactions to sexual stimulus are reflexes, if a person is pushing the buttons, so to speak, then the response will happen whether or not the person wants it.

Yes, that means all those hentai scenes where the rapist says the woman wants it because her body is reacting aren't true.

>>2376236
Pretty sure we all know that.

>>2376235

>GILGAMESH TRUE END: You get thrown into the Gate of Babylon for eternity.

So you become Gilgamesh's, forever?

BEST END

>>2376235
true end: you take a grail bath and end up just as twisted as gil, you procede to help destroy humanity, last scene is the counter gaurdians being led by emiya charging against Gil and you in red gold armor with your UNLIMITED BABYLON WORKS.

Good end: You smack gilgamesh in the head with a berserker's axe and he blacks out and remembers enkidu and all the good things about humanity. He then becomes tsundere male brother character and you fuck illya.

>>2376236
MY WORLD VIEW IS DESTROYED

>>2376285
TWO children? What a whore.

>>2376236
>that means all those hentai scenes where the rapist says the woman wants it because her body is reacting aren't true.
The women still feel good though, right?
...
right?

>>2376304

Physically, as they are meant to, but not mentally, unless they're a bit masochistic

>>2376304
Well, there is stimulus, but unless they have weird tendencies, the would not enjoy the situation as a whole.
Plus, the rapist may be a fucktard that drowns out pleasure with pain completely.

>>2376285
Sakura was a good girl before she turned purple-haired.

>>2376316
>the rapist may be a fucktard
As opposed to nice rapists?

>>2376339
Im sure theres one or two that rape with love

>>2376339
Fucktard, as in not a SMART guy.
You should tie her up and just fuck her, while there are guys that beat them to near-unconsciousness while they try to do her.

Love has nothing to do with it.

>>2376114

It was pretty said by the VN itself.

high-level trollan. Interesting.

No one hates Sakura--they just hate her swagger and Nadeshiko-ness. Despite her history of magecraft training and rape, she's likely the most normal of all the Type Moon girls save Seo Akira.

>>2376417
That's a fucking huge 'despite' there, man.

Taking out Rin's magus training, she is a cheeky high school girl.
PERFECTLY normal.

Oh, and if Souchirou was not actually a kung-fu psycho that retired as an assassin and never met Caster., he'd be a normal stoic teacher.

>>2376412
Well, Rin knows kung-fu and is smarter. Strength doesn't mean jack shit unless you know how to use it.

Another HNNNGGG picture for the hell of it.

>>2376451
Why does it look like they try to hide from 'ARCHER TIME'?

>>2376451
i'm going to have a heart attack! HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>2376451
NO, AACHAA, NO

PLEASE PUT THE BONE OF YOUR SWORD AWAY

>>2376370
Wait, there are right and wrong ways to rape people? Huh.

>>2376465
IS THAT LOLI PAJAMA RIN

>>2376497
There is a good and a bad approach for everything, crimes included.

>>2376472
Jesus, don't ruin this. I mean, we get daddy Gar and Sakura doesn't become worm slut. It's like a perfect reality.

>>2376497
Right = you don't get caught
Wrong = Your ass in jail
Godly = You convince the bitch she's a slut, turn her into a nympho, and fuck her for the rest of your life

>>2376505
I prefer older Pajama Rin, myself.

>>2376508
TOO perfect. I hate it and its creator for reminding me that something like that could never really happen.

Also, more pure a thing is, more satisfying to corrupt etc. (Shit, now I want to draw porn of it.)

>>2376508
TOO perfect. I despise it and its creator for reminding me that something like that could never really happen.

Also, more pure a thing is, more satisfying to corrupt etc. Shit, now I have to draw Childcare Is War porn, and it's all your fault.

>>2376465
Because they accidentally spilled his ink (look on the floor), and they're afraid he'll be mad at them.

>>2376515
"Ugh... you've never done this before, have you, Anonymous?"

Shirou even brings her breakfast in bed the next morning

>>2376432
She's not perfectly normal, though. How many school idols do you know? The perfectionistic life Rin seeks out is normal as far as career-aggressive people go outside of a school setting, but that's not the average teenage life. She's essentially Akiha in that respect, except that Rin occassionally dabbles in socializing better.

But I'm getting sidetrecked--my point wasn't normal on a terms of real life normal, it was about normal versus the comparisons of the rich girls, the devil hunters, the other magi, the church agents, vampires, Servants, etc. All of them are pretty eccentric in their own ways, but Sakura, Satsuki, Seo, and a few others just manage to do things that could be regarded as mundane. They're not trying to be mages, church clerks, etc--they're just planing to life normally and maintain the minimum of the strage/bizarre (except in Sacchin's case. Poor Sacchin).

>Godly = You convince the bitch she's a slut, turn her into a nympho, and convert her into a newly-minted yandere.

fix'd.

>>2376592
yandere? how weak.

break them until they cannot move

HURRR HUURRR inb4 wormslut.

I think she's actually the best - IF she develops her abilities as a magus. The whole inferior female housewife thing doesn't really do it for me.
That said, Rin's tsundere antics get annoying after time, and Saber's awkwardness is just as bad.

>>2376638
Bro, you came in WAY after wormslut.

>>2376647
No brah, I did a ctrl-f and no wormslut before mine.

>>2376472
Oh man I cannot stop laughing at this.

>>2376579
THE PERFECT WOMAN

>>2376508
I like the pictures of kid Shirou meeting Archer.

He STILL hates him as a kid. Just Shirou's more vocal about it then.

>>2376686

>>2376664
Meet >>2376508

>>2376638
She shows 'tsundere' antics only a few times at her OWN route, mostly towards the end.
You must have little tolerance.
And Saber's awkwardness pretty much started with the first fuck and ended at the bath, not very lasting.

>>2375816
>>2375840

Sources?

>>2376844

Nevermind the first one. I actually bothered to read the title. Just the second one, this time.