/jp/ - Otaku Culture

atsui....

I still want to spend my life dreaming by Madotsuki's side!

>>23724246
Well, you can't!

>>23709661
I love these enigmatic protagonists so much

>>23726456

>>23726598
that madotsuki's boobs are a little bit way too big

>>23728585
She's just storing her pillow there for emergency naps.

>>23728882
so she wouldn't mind if i poke it?

>>23726598
That message is just plain rude, don't you think? Why should you abandon and move on from something you love?

>>23734523
the idea is that it's toxic to your health, despite you loving it. it can only cause you nothing but misery and a subpar human existence.

of course you can argue that it don't matter and none of this matters as you are mortal and it'll all be over soon

>>23734523
The journey never stops journeying.
It's a statement to keep going, not to abandon what you love.

>>23726598
Who's the kid on the far left?

>>23747939
Moochasu from Towelket.

>>23747964
His games have been translated recently, haven't they? It's probably time to give them a try already.

>>23749749
the one where he's the protagonist has been translated since like 2014, it's 2 and 3 that got TLs in recent months

That reminds me, why /jp/ doesn't have a dedicated thread for doujin games like Towelket, YN or all those puzzle horror games?

>>23752411
because this is now the idol/v tuber/Touhou image board
if you want to discuss games, you're in the wrong place.

>>23709661

>>23752411
Because generals are unnecessary and the fad is over. There's an RPG maker general on /vg/ if you absolutely need a constant chat room hangout to make friends in. On /jp/ you can just make a thread about whatever you want without needing a dedicated general.

>>23760136
Speaking of /vg/, pretty sure that /indie/ is also an option.
From what I remember about that general, a big majority of the games usually discussed here were also welcome over there.

>>23709661

Come with me
And you'll be
In a world of pure imagination

It has been almost 16 years.

>>23779943
So how is 2kki doing? Last time I played it was somewhere in 2011. Same with .flow.

>>23780729
Still gets regular updates, has grown significantly since 2011, and also has Western contributors these days. The wiki team does a good job at enabling that and documenting new places.

Though I have a bias there, since it is my favorite of the spinoffs. The large amount of eclectic contributions really gives it a truly dreamlike quality.

>>23709661
got pleasantly surprised when I saw this thread, fellas
https://youtu.be/yWKeZe6ggJI

>>23709661
It never clicked before that Madotsuki's name is literally just "windowed" (the aperture, not the structure within the aperature).

That's pretty thoughtful, considering she is our PoV to the world.

It's such an incredibly simple game, and yet, it somehow managed to leave a huge impact on me.
I beat it not too long ago, and I've been obsessed with it ever since.

This album is so cool.
https://youtu.be/IcRXO5vVcRg
https://youtu.be/d_Mx9bJowcs
https://youtu.be/r1LWBtji6oQ

>>23789586
Excelent taste rigth there

>>23789451
Boy is it going to bother you when you realize tons of characters' name are just "thing work is about/they're themed after" + ko or something like that

>>23791237
Oh, I know that already.
The OP was just the first time I saw Mado's characters and I realized the meaning.
Before then I just processed the hiragana as a straight name and nothing else, since 窓付き rarely comes up over 窓 in what little I read.

>>23791237
Oh, I know that already.
The OP was just the first time I saw Mado's characters and I realized the meaning.
Before then I just processed the hiragana as a straight name and nothing else, since I've never seen 窓付き come up over 窓 in what little I read. I initially guessed the characters were an original name with the meaning of "that which is affixed to window," which isn't too terribly off.

My Japanese isn't the best.

>>23779943
There's less than a month left until the next anniversary, right?

>>23789586
any other yume nikki albums outside of that one and Subroc Recording's SUBLIMINAL?

>>23808609
Not that anon but here are the ones I've listened to (besides ones that were already mentioned)
～ゆめのおと～
a room ep
another cut of your dream(100% dream juice remix album)
Bed Hair ep
Reverberation Of Dreams
Yume Nikki Reimagined
Yumenikki 2007-2008
音日記

nearly 14 years later

>>23776807
Verandas seem much more common in Japanese architecture.

>>23752411
Towelket gets threads every now and then, Yume Nikki too, but the problem is this board doesn't really need generals for stuff like that since like the other anon said you can just make it yourself. The other problem being there's not really much to say unless there's been some kinda updates, like with Towelkets translation efforts, Shanghai.EXE's post-dmca updates, and Yume Nikki having the little discussion it'd get in 2020 split between two websites, and half of it being discussions of composers related to Yume Nikki fangames rather than the games/fangames themselves since no one makes them anymore.

>>23734523
I feel like it's a way to say there's more to find out there, and keep the love you have for something not keep you from finding new things to love. Pretty much every single game there is in a vastly different era of time spanning across multiple different regions, imagine if you just told yourself "well, nothing will beat Cave Story for me." and how much you'd miss. At least that's how I see it.

>>23815834
Balconies aren't uncommon. Maybe you just don't live around many apartments?

>>23816002
If people didn't shun the Yume Nikki Dream Diary game, there'd be a little bit of something to talk about

>>23752411
Generals are a cancer.

>>23816084
>Maybe you just don't live around many apartments?
I live in an apartment in a mid-sized US metro area with around 3 million people. Almost every apartment just has windows, and the outside structures do not have any sort of exterior hangings or perches.

>>23816116
Let's talk about YNDD then.
What did you guys think about the endings?

>>23816116
>>23829287
Or maybe let's talk about the new worlds/areas that were added instead.
Did you like them? Are they something that you would associate with what Yume Nikki means to you? Is there anything you would change about them? Why?

Hey, wake up already.

fuck you ponytail cunt

mado

nani sore

>>23709661
meaning

>>23716332
atsui naa

>>23716332
atsui na

>>23897454
>master1200
Concher's a cutie, but please don't do that anymore

Dont die

where can i play yume nikki?

>>23933020
In your PC, or even Android!

>>23947412

>mama mother madotsuki

damn straight

>>23933219
yeah no shit it can be played on android tell me about things android can't do

>>23715904

>>23950289
>tell me about things android can't do
bring back Ed's mom.

I can't believe Yume 2kki has existed for 13 years already.

>>23978689
What on Earth are you talking about?

>>24007653
Thinks android can't do

>>23726598
I can't. I just want to go back.

>>23709661
What is the name of the game ?

>>24024763
ゆめにっき
また、お名前を削除してください

I feel stupid that i cant find a download of the game

Anyone else like .flow

>>24033707
nevermind steam had it for free im retarded

What were the names of all the clone games?

>>24047686
ゆめにっき派生?

>>24050377
I meant the individual names. 2kki and what else?

Will we ever know for sure what anything in Yume Nikki meant? I still keep thinking about why Madotsuki jumps at the end.

>>24057142
She jumps because you make her jump with your desire to end it all.

>>24051871
I guess the most well known ones besides 2kki are .flow, Yume Nisshi, and maybe LcdDem.
You are better off browsing one of the wikis and seeing if anything catches your eye.

>>24061294
I think by now LCD DEM is more popular than Yume Nisshi.

>>24057142
The whole point of the game is that there's only meaning if you want there to be, but everything in it is innately meaningless. Everything you know about every location, every character, even Mado herself, is just what you've formed through your own experiences or others retelling their experiences of the game that have influenced you. The only things you know for sure are what's in her room and what happens in her room and the balcony and that's about it, and even that's up for debate depending on how you see it as the stairs came from nothing.

>>24057142
The whole point of the game is that there's only meaning if you want there to be, but everything in it is innately meaningless. Everything you know about every location, every character, even Mado herself, is just what you've formed through your own experiences or others retelling their experiences of the game that have influenced you. Things that may seem incredibly obvious to you or I may be read in a totally different way by someone else; for example how some think Mado was simply beaten as a child, or she was mentally abused, or she was even raped all from the same handful of locations. The only things you know for sure are what's in her room and what happens in her room and the balcony and that's about it, and even that's up for debate depending on how you see it as the stairs came from nothing. It's all up for interpretation, and I think that's why the games so beloved and why it's become such an influential thing over the years.

>>23709661
knife

>>23709661
human

>>23729496
Yes. All of the cotton will come out

>>23726598
What's the far right side one?

>>24066597
What's happened to the creator anyways?

>>24100297
Nothing. He signed off on Dream Diary at least. He probably has some twitter or something somewhere. YN's homepage is still up too.

>>24099362
Pretty sure that's Hiroshi from Ao Oni.

>>24108943
I thought he might be from that, but I barely watched a playthrough so I wasn't sure.

Mado will always be part of Otaku culture.

Bless.

>>24109308
It's a pretty short game (as long as you don't get stuck on a puzzle), so you could probably get away with playing it instead of watching a playthrough.

>>24142957
>so you could probably get away with playing it instead of watching a playthrough.
I don't really understand what you mean by this.
The playthrough I watched didn't interest me though. I really don't get the appeal besides the meme looking enemy.

>>24143994
That's fair.
And what I meant is that if you were even remotely interested on that game, there was no downside to playing it yourself instead of watching someone else do it.

>>23709661

>>23709661

>>23726456
Is undertale really worth playing? I've never given it a try because the fanbase comes across as western Tumblr cringe.

>>23709661
meaning?

>>24172336
The game is indeed a tad tryhard at times but it's not that bad. It has a few neat things here and there, but it mostly relays on the player being completely unspoiled.

Is the Steam release legit?
If no then where can I get the best version? (as for someone who doesn't know japanese)

>>24202884
The Steam version has a few bugs here and there but it is still serviceable enough.
Otherwise, you could play the version hosted over at Uboachan.

What are your personal favorite fangames?
2kki and .flow are classics for a reason but I'll give Yuque a mention since it's pretty underrated but really well made.

>>24033831
It got an update recently

>>24206104
Thanks, I will check Uboachan

>>24206680
Are you serious?
Was anything interesting added or was it just a bugfix kind of update?

>>24218328
Quite a bit, like whole new areas and more backstory lore apparently.

>>24206664
What is Yuque and it is it pronounced "yuck"?

>>23709661
Why the knife?

>>24245998
Why not?

mado suki

>>23724246
Whoa

>>24239388
nyaaaa

Yume Nikki gets the most beautiful art of any fandom.

What is your favorite effect? I think mine is witch.

>>24292680
Personally, I am really fond of the midget effect.
But the witch one is so incredibly adorable.

>>24292680
The bike.

>>23709661

Yume nikki dreams anyone?

>>24340175
Can't say I've ever had one, what about you?

>>24340175
I wish
Though recently I had a dream where I was playing YN but I can't remember it very well

nihongo

>>24007653
Are you fucking retarded, man? He literally told you a thing Android can't do. I can hardly believe you're this immensely stupid, what a goddamn disgrace you must be for everyone around you. He just explained it to you, holy fucking shithead

>>23831841
>Is there anything you would change about them?
Make the sidescroller world fully explorable in 3d
>Why?
I just think yume nikki should be about exploring dream with freedom to move around and making it side scroller seem out of place to me
>>23855685
Look cool anon atleast better than mine

I remember that some anon used to say kikiyama was an anon from 2ch and was trying to develop yume nikki while asking a bunch of people there.
How accurate is this though?

>>24358527
Once unlocked Mado in an RPG and also got her character song "Determine."

Happy 16th anniversary Mado.

Happy Birthday Mado Mado.

>>24172336
It's a great game. If you ignore the fandom, and see it with your own eyes, I think you'd appreciate what one person was able to do. Kikiyama did the same with yume nikki, even if the types of games they are plenty different, in terms of gameplay and mechanics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwpMPykYHjg

watoski

>>23726598
doko

>>24172336
Almost all the characters, inter-character relationships, and dialogue play very heavily to the Tumblr crowd; not the social justice part, but the soft, one-dimensional, feel-good part that thinks spaghetti/anime/tsundere is an entire personality (although to be fair, they aren't like that all the time -- just most of the time). There are a couple characters that are slightly morally complex, but you never are made to feel like the "enemies/monsters" (with the exception of the main antagonist) ever do "bad" things even when they're at their worst/lowest points. There are a few threads of rudimentary fourth wall-breaking running throughout the game that most Undertale fans think are brilliant because they've never played a game with elements like that before, but those threads are not poorly executed -- they're resolved satisfactorily enough toward the end of each playthrough.

The quasi-danmaku fight system is an interesting and unique choice, and battles are mostly simple puzzles of discovering the pacifist way to end the fight, unless you're going the Genocide route. Most battles are okay, some are good but again rely a lot on dialogue that is funny or cute exactly once. Boss battles are very, very good - Genocide route boss in particular is a superb multi-hour challenge. Music is excellent and the strongest part of the game. Locations in the game are pretty forgettable.

Like >>24198586 said, you complete it once (playing through each of the three routes) and you're done because you know all the jokes, story twists, and pacifist ways to end battles because they're all pretty simple. I don't think any character is interesting enough to post-game speculate about, with the minor exception of one. It's an alright game that has its good parts, but a lot of it is geared toward a specific audience (it's hard to find an adjective that isn't "Tumblr," because that's exactly who the audience is). Maybe just play one of the Mother games instead.

>>23715904

>>24051871
Way too many to talk about them all. There's a wiki for the fangames though, try looking through it to find one that interests you.

>>24504187
>soft, one-dimensional, feel-good part that thinks spaghetti/anime/tsundere is an entire personality
>spaghetti
Am I missing some joke?

I love her

>>24557526
As do I.

>>23709661
Ching chong bong to you too

>>24172336
I think it's worth giving any game like this a shot, the worst that'll happen is you waste 6 or 7 hours of your time. It's not the masterpiece the western world makes it out to be but I genuinely see it as a good game overall. Like the other anon said, the music lifts it amazingly high, but the battle system while unique isn't really exceuted as well as you'd hope for something so 2hu inspired. The sequel does it much better, but I've got significantly less to say about that in terms of both positives and negatives both as it's just a part 1 of a bigger whole and also just not as well written. You'll get some laugh and bob your head between both games enough to make it worth it anyways.

>>24605019
As an aside, and apologies for not including this in the original post and not being very related to the thread, the game also apparently has a ton of content hidden through data. I only know of the existence of one character, essentially being a Uboa ripoff only you can't intentionally trigger him but are instead just supposed to run into him through a series of values I forget how to change, though I tripped one of his encounters. I hope whatever he does in the sequel's next parts touch on that, as that was easily one of the highlights of the game for me. In case it weren't obvious by me posting here in the first place I love that kind of mysterious atmosphere and the wiki-reading based off code-digging was probably the most constantly enjoyable part of the game for me. Which, you know, is also a downside due to not being really there in the game proper but that added to the charm for me.

Discovered this game very recently and fell in love with it

>>24617916
It would have been pretty spooky if something had been able to enter the hub area.

>>24618395
Having toriningen hounding you would’ve been real annoying

>>23709661

>>24618115
I'm glad there's still people discovering Yume Nikki.
If you don't mind the question, what was your favorite area and BGM?

Anyone play Yume Tagai?

yume

>>23716332
na..

knife

knife

knife

>>24712902
I can't believe new fangames are still being created nowadays. The graphics look really neat though.

>>24712902
Never heard of it

>>24057142
There's theories that even the reality was part of the dream (the dreams being dreams within a dream) as you can see the jellyfish flying around her corpse at the end, implying that this isn't actually real, so it might be that she actually just woke up after impact. We will probably never know.

>>24812893
Suddenly that jellyfish song by koronba acquires a different context

>>24445253
She has a bigger room than me.
This is so depressing.

>>24898947
That's probably her whole apartment besides the bathroom.

>>23726456
>>23726598
I always feel like Brad should be in these types of drawings because of the similar gameplay and tone of the game but I keep forgetting how much his character, nature and motives are explored.

>>23728585
Honestly I don't see the issue with depicting her with big boobs or not. She's not interacting with others, so it's not as if it fundamentally changes her character or how she interacts with the world.

returned to yn for the first time in a while. holy fuck the game is still so good. probably gonna fall asleep playing it tonight again.

>>24292680
witch as well.