/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>23588456
>over the past 5~7 years?
Hell yeah. Fuck the shitpost and post shitpost era. Nothing will be as bad as 2010-2014 /jp/.

I don't know, you tell me.

https://4bans.tk:1776/?com=&board=%2Fjp%2F&rule=Global+9

>>23588498
I haven't been on /jp/ in a long ass time so I'm glad to see this thread. All I remember is that those years were indeed shitty as hell, and those J pop threads were something that I never really liked. Although, can anyone actually remember the 07-09 years? I can't remember anything from that time anymore sadly enough.

>>23588498
>Nothing will be as bad as 2010-2014 /jp/.

>>23588456
There were a few years where I was disappointed that /jp/'s community energy had ceased to exist for a whole variety of reasons but I'm long over it now.

>>23588539
A few dumb threads that keep to themselves isn't within two orders of magnitude as bad as shitposters papering /jp/ with wall-to-wall garbage, hijacking threads they didn't make for their shitposting crusade, and systematically erasing any culture that predated them.

The soul of jaypee is dead. I remember "color random toehoe" threads to be fast as hell. Now the thread is already on page 10 with only a few edits.
>>23565477

>>23588539
Who could've thought that virtual shit was going to be this cancerous?

>>23588573
>A few dumb threads that keep to themselves
lol
look up necrobumper. Those few dump threads ruin the rest of the board. The shitposting around 2014 did little to harm /jp/'s slow pace and threads like RPGmaker game discussion

>>23588539
What is it with Hololive? The Nijisanji thread has less than 10 times as many posts as the current thread.

>>23588456
Nothing will ever be as bad as /jp/ being infested with tripfags spamming blog threads and threads about each other while their orbiters bump all those threads. Or how about that one year in which every single comiket thread got derailed for weeks by the same few people?

>>23588521

>>23588539
we need a /y2/ or /celeb/ board asap. also /idol/ 3DPD and youtube kids out. niconicodouga men in.

>>23588521
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as the guy who spammed Saten and Asuka and that Nocturnes or whatever LN magazine and Wizardry MMO. /jp/ is plagued by psychos. That's the thing that's never changed.

>>23588527
Original /jp/ was people spamming Jurassic Park and mushroom clouds all the time. Culture was something like all the Type Moon and Utawarerumono and 07th memes /a/ used to do. There were also threads about shitty Illusion games and MMORPGs. MMORPG threads led to people shitposting from other sites because /jp/ would dominate them in MMOs due to their NEET grinding skills. It fell apart due to certain people encouraging the assblastedness and /vg/ sucking up the poster base. Then there were trash threads like feel threads and hikki threads and crossdressing cocksucking threads and so much touhou futa. The idol threads weren't bad because it was Morning Musume/Hello Project, that cooking idol Ai Mai Mi, and like one other. It was the AKB thread that made the majority of spinoff idol threads and made all the generals think it was okay to spinoff threads every time someone had an argument over which whores you were allowed to post in the thread.

>>23589249
>/celeb/ board
No, /tv/ is already bad enough with its underage actresses threads and cunnyposting. Almost all idols are under 18, so it would just lead to worse stuff. Speaking of, go look up /tv/ and twitter if you haven't. https://archive.4plebs.org/plebs/thread/2480/

>>23588976
NO THANKING

>>23589321
aw crap, they removed it already? It was fun to tell people to google "tv television and film".

>>23589345
Greatest thread in the history of this board, no contest. I wish /jp/ was still that fun

To this day I have no idea who the fuck "milk" or "pygma" is or why they were posted about so much. Same with that "viper" guy, I never could tell if they were a 4chan ironic shitposter or just some ironic youtube shit that was posted.

>>23588934
Just Happened to become popular among the foreign audience, combined with an abnormally large amount of people being cooped up at this time.

There's nothing to say Niji couldn't gain a further following overseas, and Mito was pretty popular on the VYT pre-split.

In speaking of which, I think it is fair to say that the split had some merit if the difference was this stark.

>>23588521
That's nothing new under the sun. Though it does bugs me that he intentionally derails and buries threads that are original because they can be construed as not on-topic.
What the hell does a thread like >>/jp/thread/23585448 do to attract his attention?

>>23588820
Unironically blame /pol/. One of their favorite 'influencers' called The Quartering did a video series on Hololive, then a buncha /v/ posters started catching on because that boards been /pol/ but with video games for years, you mix the two together and tell them "pls come to jp" and you get that disgusting thread. I can't even say 'at least they stick to their own thread' like other anons because it's /pol/, and /pol/'s been leaking into other boards since its conception even without having threads specifically made by and for them.

>>23589509
Why are you posting about /jp/'s board status when you clearly only came around because of some split youtuber thread? This isn't a thread your opinion matters in.

>>23589537
Mate I've been here since 2010, not that it really matters much.
Should I apologize for having a passing interest in vtubers?

>>23589551
>Mate I've been here since 2010
You didn't even read the first post in the thread, did'ja?

>>23589551
This, I've been in /jp/ since '99 and there's nothing wrong with having an interest in idol generals.

>>23589521
More like other boards leak into /pol/

>>23589562
I did, and it says:
>Are you happy with /jp/ and the changes in posters and threads over the past 5~7 years?

You tried to invalidate my comment by claiming I was too new of a poster to contribute a genuine statement to this thread. I disagreed and gave an (admittedly unverifiable) assertion that this was not the case.
But like I said, it doesn't matter that much to the comment I made, which happened to involve vtubers.

If you don't have anything to directly comment on regarding vutbers on /jp/, you should've just ignored my post.

>>23589698
Why would anyone whose been on /jp/ since 2010, as if that's a point of pride, go into a youtube idol thread and know its intricacies then, yet not know why a chronic shitposter does his thing across any threads he deems unworthy? You probably only came around in the past year or two so kindly fuck off.

>>23589727
>yet not know why a chronic shitposter does his thing across any threads he deems unworthy
I mean the obvious reason is that he is doing it out of spite at not being able to get a sally thread, or for being ignored/told to GTFO in threads in which he tries to push his favorite girl.
But that doesn't explain why he is so particular on threads that have nothing to do with whatever girls/series he likes beyond "he's crazy."

>as if that's a point of pride
>You probably only came around in the past year or two
You're treating it like something of value in judging me, instead of ignoring it and not using it yourself. I specifically said it didn't matter much.

>>23589768
Forgive me for not trusting the words of some idol general frequenter, then. You haven't even realized that you've ruined yet another good thread too, but it's okay because you've been around for a decade of course.

>>23588850
>The shitposting around 2014 did little to harm /jp/'s slow pace
The shitposting around 2012-13 helped *create* /jp/'s slow pace by forcing everyone to castle into dedicated recurring threads or drown.

>>23589783
>You haven't even realized that you've ruined yet another good thread too
Metathread and nostalgia threads are shit literally 100% of the time and have been that way for a decade. There is not a single one that doesn't rapidly descend into one or two people claiming to be /jp/ veterans attempting to shit on each other using literally anything possible. And here we are.

>>23589783
I'm not trying to do pic related. Those threads existed on /jp/ in the last 5-7 years. I made a comment regarding those threads.

Call me what you want, but the original point was relevant to this thread, and you have not added on to it beyond questioning the veracity of my statements and trying to shame me for validating things you find cancerous.
I'll wait until someone brings up a new point before replying further, since this is just a competition of who can get the last word in.

why walfaggots always think they're welcome?

>>23590805
walfa isn't even much a thing anymore, yet alone something to be particular about

>>23589611
Other sites you mean

10 years ago you were 10 years younger. (You) were fucking childish and you thought soihumor was funny.

>>23588850
Necrobumpers have been a huge problem recently, I've seen a couple dead threads get bumped with nothing but OP tags that get deleted as soon as the time limit is up. I wish it would stop.

>>23588456
Whats been bothering me most over all of it have been the obvious crossboarder threads begging for '2hu memes'. It's almost like there's three up on any given day which shows no ones reading the catalog or even really has any regard for this community beyond just
using us for our image folders. I hate nu-/jp/ but its still my favorite board. Nearly everything else has been entirely ruined by /pol/

>>23591589
/x/ conspiracy-tards and /r9k/ or wherever the race baiting, women hating, pro-trap, porn spamming types come from, are the biggest problems, but yes also what you said.

>>23591693
What's a "soihumor"?

>>23589521
>One of their favorite 'influencers' called The Quartering
you are kidding right? there is no way /pol/ likes that guy. then again I don't visit other boards at all aside from /vg/ for /mbg/news.

>>23589297
What MMOs does /jp/ play?

>>23593050
about ayear ago I read that some anons were still playing mabinogi.

>>23592976
I have a feeling it is what it looks like

i loved 2010-2012 /jp/, back when it felt like a community. my opinion of /jp/ in a given era directly correlates with the quality of the comiket threads.

5-7 years is a long time, but it doesn't seem like /jp/ has changed that much since the dark days after being dubbed moot's favorite board. granted, my visits have become significantly less frequent since then so maybe i just missed it.

>>23593050
They played whatever had anime lolis in it. Except RO. They would always talk about RO, then play for like 5 days because they always wanted a low rate server.

>>23593060
I still play Mabinogi. I'm sick of this dumb Kemono Friends crossover that's going on right now though. They all have such shitty costumes.

>>23594118
So basically anything you could run on an old laptop
Hope blue protocol will end up being the "anime" mmo I hope it is, I have more trust in asian devs regarding implementation of loli races/characters in their game than other big mmo titles
This if they actually make it available in english as well
Don't really want to look like that guy shilling off topic stuff but since we were talking about MMOs. If you are interested click the link in the spoiler if you actually want to or google it yourself
https://youtu.be/S1fRSyo2w1w?t=854

>>23588456
hell no. give me the shitpost days again.

>>23589437
>pygma
Whore with an STD
Take sally and multiply by autism but have that autism be a person and glorifiably shitposted alongsidr nudes
Rumor (read shitposting: fucks people at cons and events
You can find lewds if you look hard enough. All links are dead.

>milk
I didn’t do too much research on her. Just some glorified cosplayer.

>viper
I don’t know much about him. Not even his music.

>>23592018
Thats why I halt plans until the shitters leave. You should do the same.

>>23594526
i was going to redirect you to the /jp/ spinoffs but i was pleasantly surprised that i couldn't even remember their names anymore

>>23594792
spinoffs are dead also

>>23593050
None. All of the ones I care about are slowly dying or are dead.

>>23594803
no community that defines itself in opposition to another community can ever last more than a few years

rest in peace, boardring

>>23594792
Same
https://stormy-skies.neocities.org/list/chanlist.html

I don't understand the mentality of the poster who bumps every single thread on /jp/ every day. I don't know what they're trying to achieve by doing it, but the amount of effort they go to surely isn't worth it.
I haven't been outside in 7 years and even I think that they need to get a life.

>>23594830
Half the threads in the catalog aren't real, thanks to whoever the fuck it is. It's just complete nonsense. Why /jp/ still has deletion privileges is beyond me.

>>23594830
Meido should ip ban them, whoever it is.

>>23594951
And what do you do when they pop out of an geoIP on the other side of the world a few minutes later?

>>23594830
might be a different thing, but there is a particular ban evader who tries to kill threads that are ”against the rules” by bumping the entire catalog...

>>23588456
This is still the only board completely free of wojaks and pepes, with threads being relevant to the board's topic, so it's still good quality.

>>23594826
Been looking at some of the chans and old styling with serif-only font looks so much more comfy

>>23594830
>>23595269
There's that one guy who just endlessly textposts low-effort shitposts in idol threads for like 20 hours aday just like "wow she's so ugly" and replies to himself when his bait isn't spicy enough.

Probably all the same guy, my mind can't accept the notion that there's more than one guy out there who does nothing all day but be le epic troll on like 15 different threads on /jp/.

>>23588498
Those were great years. Puroresu threads, variety shows threads, dramas and movies threads, music threads, Japanese /lit/ threads, threads for obscure Japanese culture, hobbies, interests etc. and all that good stuff. The changes in posters and mods in particular killed the real experience of /jp/.

>>23595269
You're confusing two different spammers here.
The ban evader is Sallyfag, who reports every thread he deems off topic, then spams his threads to assert his superiority.
The board bumpers are Vtubers, who try to get their thread archived, so that they can create a new thread with their favorite Vtuber in the OP, or because the thread has reached the image limit.

>>23595331
i've seen multiple times sallyfag post the ”otaku idol” image in a thread right before it archived
maybe they adopt each other's behavior
both things happen...

>>23589297
I miss Japanese bird cooking spaghetti, hoopdog, Lun-Lun is SUGOI, etc. I even have some nostalgia for the spambot era, who else still remembers Derek?

I barely ever come on /jp/ anymore these days, I remember a few years ago I tried to create a "yearly Lun-Lun thread" and got just a few shitposting/clueless replies so I doubt there's many oldfags left.

>>23594505
>So basically anything you could run on an old laptop
I suppose. From memory, Mabinogi, Ragnarok Online, Aika, Cosmic Break, Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine, and Emil Chronicle Online were the main ones. I can't remember if /jp/ itself played Luna Online or Eden Eternal, but I think so. Oh, and there was Valkyrie Sky, the ill-fated 2hu mmorpg. Tera, Blade and Soul, and FF14 didn't make the cut, but Haven and Hearth did for some reason, but those were the days where /jp/ played Dwarf Fortress too. Tree of Savior came too late, Perfect World came too early I think, and Peria Chronicles didn't come at all. PSO2 didn't really take off until too late too.

Blue Protocol probably won't be any good because it probably won't have dressing up and taking it easy. Also it's made by Bandai Namco, so there's no way in hell it won't be a money vacuum. They already have enough of my bux from iM@S. I don't even wanna touch this.

>>23595271
>This is still the only board completely free of wojaks and pepes,
Lies. The moderation won't delete them in any of the general threads, and in certain ones like the onahole threads, will even allow explicit nude images.

>>23595350
Sallyfag's Sally was in a vtuber group primarily and he was ousted from those threads in particular, so there's a good chance he normal posts in vtuber threads

>>23595497
You can't spend your whole life spamming cockmongler macros. Move on to something new.

>>23596512
Move on to what? There's no content left on this site but generals recycling the same dozen conversations ad infinitum

>>23593417
>i loved 2010-2012 /jp/, back when it felt like a community.
Threads that encourage OC still feel like that.

>>23596619
Have you tried making your own content that isn't boring and outdated? Or can you only shitpost and cry?

>recycling the same dozen conversations ad infinitum
>I miss Japanese bird cooking spaghetti, hoopdog
Flanly and all the other daily dose threads are the exact same fucking thing. To the point of just being copypasted replies. You only like that shit because you cling to it even though it is old. Possibly just because it is old. You have to overcome your autistic hatred of change.

After checking those cancerous vtuber threads and the arguments in this thread I've come to the conclusion that they really need to be quarantined elsewhere. We have spawned so many video game related boards so why not another one for e-celebrities, idols, virtual shit and other abhorrent stuff? Plus you can keep all the drama in there because it would be inherently related to the board. And it's not like the circlejerking posters in these threads care about /jp/ or other boards they are shitting up.

>>23597473
It was never actually about the valuable content of the threads. That was always dumb. It was always about what that dumb shit represented: a community of like-minded people having fun together, back when we were all young and idealistic and free.

Fast-forwards to 2020 and we're all jaded faggots, the "community" such as it were is fractured into a hundred pieces, and we all hate each other.

>tfw u want to get into this board because it’s Touhou central but your to retarded to get into it
Is there an initiation process anon

>>23597809
Lurk at least 2 years.

>>23597822
Thank you for this knowledge I shall lurk for 2 hears and avoid the urge to post

>>23589437
who's pygma?

>>23597835
lurking this caca made of idol generals and vapid Touhou imagedumps is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemies. That other poster is a bad person.

>>23597725
>a community of like-minded people having fun together
So a general thread. Even when you move the goalposts, your reason is flaky.

>we're all jaded faggots
No, just u.

>the "community" such as it were is fractured into a hundred pieces
Blame the shitposters who wanted /jp/ to be wall to wall threads no one liked in the early 10s. Blame yourself too. What content do you want? Do you want vtuber memers and monstergirl incels interacting with each other and you? Will that make you happy or will you hate them because they're not your interests?

Touhou should get its own containment board. Kind of like /mlp/

>>23598092
Yeah, it's called /jp/.

>>23598099
Yeah, and that's the problem. Anything that's not Touhou here gets slided by Touhou shitposting.

>>23598114
Yeah, just like this thread for example, right? The current biggest problem are necrobumpers that artificially speed up the board.


>>23293330

>>23597809
If your asking about an imitation process you're too retarded to use the internet. Congratulations.

>>23598136
that thread is like a bastion of sane people during a zombie apocalypse, defending themselves from the mindless hordes of Touhou /c/ posters, idolfags and tuberfags
Will they ever be able to retake their city from the zombies?

>>23598114
>Anything that's not Touhou here gets slide
Can you name at least 10 threads?

>>23598162
Or they could simply make their own threads.

>>23598182
and get shoved to page 10 within 3 hours? I remember those recent funamusea and Towelket threads constantly being near the bottom of the board. Current /jp/ is abhorrent, it managed to be worse than /vr/

>>23598207
Do you even like either of those games?

>>23598220
sure, I played both
do you?

>>23598207
They could stay afloat by enough "natural" bumping garnered from the interest of each individual topic. That thread alone is one month old, has less than 70ips, and it' hasn't reached bump limit. Other non touhou and non vtuber caner threads I've posted in had a healthy lifespan.

>>23598207
Even on page 10, it takes nearly a day for a thread to fall off, even with spam.

>>23598235
I bumped the towelket thread and think funamusea is tumblr shit, but don't shitpost against it. If you like them, why didn't you bump them more? and why does it matter if a thread is constantly "near" the bottom anyway? Every thread can't be on page 1 all the time.

>>23598286
there is only so much samefagging I can do. I remember the GoS threads in 2011, the board was slow enough that more people saw the thread near page 1 for longer, and it wouldn't slide off for days.
Sure. When a thread disappears because of the tards accelerating the pace of the board, just make a new thread, right?! Sure. Are you really fine with a board where you got shoved around by this obnoxious majority, and where an idolfreak addicted to attention makes yet another fake Touhou thread sweeping other threads aside without giving a damn?
My biggest problem with new /jp/ is the indifference of its users and lack of interest in subjects I'm passionate about.

>>23598069
>Even when you move the goalposts, your reason is flaky.
Different person, faggot. Of course I blame the shitposters. Everyone does.

>Blame yourself too. What content do you want? Do you want vtuber memers and monstergirl incels interacting with each other and you? Will that make you happy or will you hate them because they're not your interests?
This is the kind of rhetorical spiritual beatdown that only a jaded faggot could deliver.

>>23598286
It's utterly inane that people interested in a thread should be required to bump it at least once per day like an officer on patrol because if they ever miss a beat, their thread will drown beneath a sea of fake threads. Like having to check your stove every day because there's some asshole poltergeist living in the walls who keeps turning on the gas and if you don't keep turning it off the house burns down. It's not that much work - really, just once a day - but the whole thing is just so utterly fucking tiresome that countless topical threads have just allowed themselves to be drowned beneath the waves of spam and enjoy the sweet embrace of nonexistence.

>>23598182
There's not enough people in /jp/ who browse index to generate interest in most independent threads outside of "board-spanning" topics like Comiket being canceled (or shitty metathreads that everybody loves), and even that particular thread was put on artificial life support after a few days. Everybody who has interests is already talking about those interests with the relevant people in the relevant threads. Threads like the catch-all threads are the last vestige of a community that wants to talk about random on-topic shit.

>>23598408
Your analogy is completely wrong tho. It should be more akin to someone driving down a highway, taking a stop at a motel and then wondering why everyone else passed him the next day. Even before this hyper focused browsing and taking out of the equation the mass necrobumpers, those random threads would eventually fizzle out nobody would care. You already said there's not enough interest in such topics to begin with so why even force it?

>>23598408
When was there ever this idea of people who wanted to talk about "random on-topic shit"? /jp/'s most important commandment was "condense your threads". People talked about what they wanted in their threads and then there were random inane spam threads all about. There was more crossover between threads, but I don't get this imagined board-filling pool of random thoughts that everyone participated in idea you have of old /jp/. Furthermore, the "community" wasn't that big, like maybe one general's worth of people. It makes sense they'd all be in one thread. They all turn out for those threads. They all turn out for meta threads.

>It's utterly inane that people interested in a thread should be required to bump it at least once per day
Do you even 4chan? This is a transient site. You bump your thread, or you let it die and make another one later. Why should it be entitled to remain if it's not popular? It's not a crime to just make a new one when you feel like it and then let it die after a day. You getting butthurt about it is just a sign of the same infection that made people make generals to begin with.

Not to mention /jp/ turned from harassing outsiders to leave to telling everyone to stay in x thread and being completely hostile to anyone who posted anything that didn't like. It's why there's so many branch generals and it's why no one interacts.

>>23598342
It's not being jaded. How do you feel about this, with /v/-tubers posting among touhous? >>23332404
This is what an interacting community is like. If you make a thread whose title is something like "post the cutest girl you know" and people post botes and tubes alongside 2hus, then you have to accept it instead of telling them to fuck off if you want any sort of community to form. You might even have to go into the generals and get those hardasses to open up too. (instead you praise them by saying "at least they don't spill out of their thread")
I don't really think /jp/ wants a community though, it's just a group of people who want nothing but NEET threads and a group of people who want nothing but Touhou threads and a group of people who want nothing but mindless spam with bot replies because it reminds them of the past. What other board has had so many fucking spinoffs, after all? Hell, Touhou is probably the last thing on this board basically everyone likes and could be found in any thread and brings people together, but the shitposting crew keeps trying to demonize it lately.

>>23598587
Stop being defeatist. If you want people to talk about something, post something worth talking about. Even when someone makes their much vaunted original&good thread, they use some shit OP like "how does this make you feel?", "what do?", etc because they can't be assed to even write something interesting to support the thread they want to exist. They can't think of anything to bump it. They want others to come and entertain them instead of contributing.

>>23598656
>Stop being defeatist.
Everyone complaining that there's not enough non-general content should be the ones taking this advice. I simply mentioned that everyone should be making more threads to begin with.

>>23598656
>Stop being defeatist.
Defeatism is what sets in after years of defeat.

>>23588456
Absolutely not.
This place has turned into a 3dpd general combined with ecelebfaggotry.

>>23598711
>Even before this hyper focused browsing and taking out of the equation the mass necrobumpers, those random threads would eventually fizzle out nobody would care. You already said there's not enough interest in such topics to begin with so why even force it?
>I simply mentioned that everyone should be making more threads to begin with.
Is that supposed to be implied sarcastic irony in the former then? Because it really seems like you're telling them to give up because no one would care anyway.

>>23598656
>When was there ever this idea of people who wanted to talk about "random on-topic shit"? /jp/'s most important commandment was "condense your threads".
Every thread that's not a recurring thread is "random on-topic shit" unless it's spam. Condense your threads is when a single topic literally overruns the board.

>Do you even 4chan? This is a transient site.
/jp/ hasn't been a transient site for years. In a board of 150 threads something like three of them aren't either a recurring character thread or a recurring general thread. And you're mixing complaints about general threads with small communities that can't make quota because they're too small or don't have a culture of brainless shitposting for free replies. Sure, it's a free board, if they're too slow they should make way for threads that are more active, but character threads kept alive by posts that are literally just >>>OP and deleted the next minute for days, or bumped en masse by clockwork by some faggot who wants to push something off the board. That's not "entitled to remain even though it's not popular." That's "shouldn't be pushed off the board by literal spam."

>>23598323
>Are you really fine with a board where you got shoved around by this obnoxious majority, and where an idolfreak addicted to attention makes yet another fake Touhou thread sweeping other threads aside without giving a damn?
Yes. That's just how it is on 4chan. If people are free to make 8ofclock threads, they're free to make Touhou threads, even if they're made in bad faith.

>in subjects I'm passionate about.
What subjects are you passionate about?

>>23598833
>Every thread that's not a recurring thread
So no threads.

Just look at the catalog. At any given time you can identify three types of threads:
- booru imagedump template threads for 2hu/iM@S characters where the posting quality makes /b/ and /tv/ look like they're the best boards on 4chan
- the same clique generals always on page 1, that are pretty much Discord chatrooms at this point
- more or less ordinary threads that very frequently die with few posts due to being buried under hundreds of shitpost threads
Fuck mods and janitors for tolerating this garbage.

>>23598872
If you ever leave /jp/ you'll notice that sometimes there are threads made with a topic of discussion, where the exact same thread hasn't been made over fifty times before, and the ensuing thread is composed mostly of lively discussion. This is a majority of threads in some boards. That doesn't occur in /jp/ even once a week.

Maybe you don't agree with the exact numbers here or maybe you have an entertaining explanation why that's actually all the fault of people like me but claiming outright that there's no such thing as an original thread is complete fucking sophistry.

>>23598833
>That's "shouldn't be pushed off the board by literal spam."
They don't. That retard bumps every thread so they're above the dead generals. If your thread died it's because you didn't post in it for nearly a day, i.e. a thread no one cares about. No one's posting 10 pages of Accelerator or Asuka or Homura or anything, they're just shuffling the threads around.
Hell every time I report and hide some shit fetish thread like "fat 2hu feets and city crushing", it has no problem surviving for weeks, why can't yours? Look at the archive. Literally only trash threads are in there https://boards.4channel.org/jp/archive
Which one was yours?

>>23598910
>If you ever leave /jp/
I do. 80% of boards are inflammatory pepe and wojack OPs, or "hey look at this image of black people! I hate black people so much!" those that aren't are the same tired shitpost topics I see every single time I go there, even slow boards like /3/.

>where the exact same thread hasn't been made over fifty times before
Untrue.

Show me an example of a once in a lifetime, can't be replicated thread. Was it that thread about the coin pendant? Because "hey guys look at my 「weebshit」" threads get made thrice daily.

>the ensuing thread is composed mostly of lively discussion.
Show me an example. Now.
Waiting more expectantly then when someone on /qa/ talks about they were banned for something innocuous and they get asked what their post was. This fucking board probably has the highest level of discussion on this entire site anymore.

>>23598965
>80% of boards are inflammatory pepe and wojack OPs, or "hey look at this image of black people! I hate black people so much!"
Name a single hobby board where the front page is 80% pepe, wojack or racebaiting OPs.

>Show me an example of a once in a lifetime, can't be replicated thread.
I'm not talking about "once in a lifetime, can't be replicated." I'm simply asking for threads that aren't generals and don't play out exactly the same every single time. Most character threads in /jp/, after you get past the three posts bothering to respond to whatever modicum of originality was in the OP, revert to being the EXACT same routine, to the point where if you deleted the first 3/4rds of the thread and the OP too, the rest of the thread would be exactly the same: an endless picture dump punctuated by a small number of one-liners and no substantive conversation.

>Was it that thread about the coin pendant? Because "hey guys look at my 「weebshit」" threads get made thrice daily.
It turns out not all "weebshit" is the same. Otherwise you might as well claims that threads where people want to talk about「thing」are the same for different choices of thing and every single thread on 4chan is the same. Fitting into some overarching archetype of thread ("this is a thread where people discuss thing!") is not the same thread.

Why are you so obsessed with the pendant thread, anyway? Were you the one shitting it up?

>Show me an example. Now.
>>>/a/202264829
>>>/tg/72255715
>>>/k/44804826

Page 1. I'm not going to claim any of these threads are any good. I'm simply here to point out that they're not 1. general threads, and not 2. playing out literally exactly the same as some other thread from last week.

I don't post on /jp/ at all any more and rarely visit when I'm bored, but I wanted to say that this is the perfect end of /jp/: >>23293330.
A Japan/General General.
You cannot find a more fitting legacy to /jp/. It would take a truly cunning trickster god centuries to craft the myriad of events leading to such a beautifully poetic occurrence. Stop and admire it.
I feel pity that such people have not left for other imageboards and have instead burrowed into a corpse for their /jp/ inside /jp/.

>>23598784
>Is that supposed to be implied sarcastic irony in the former then? Because it really seems like you're telling them to give up because no one would care anyway.
It's telling them to make more threads and trying to make sense as to why an unpopular topic doesn't last forever is the true waste of time.

>>23598996
>>>/a/202264829
>No one has ever made a Koe de Oshigoto thread before
Oh, wait, but this one is different! This one is different but a new Touhou game or even a new fan work is not!
Inside:
>Kanna is cute and slutty!
>Will there be piss scenes?
There's not really any discussion, just one liners you'd find in any thread here.

>>>/tg/72255715
>ITT we each describe one floor of a tower, which someone has to try reach the top of
So, some Childen's forum game? I see now, you're sad no one is in your yukkuri Remi coloring book thread.
>The Standing Room
>A room completely packed with people, with a key somewhere on the floor, required to get to the next level.
>All of these people are sweaty, unwashed, and rude. You'll either have to be constantly shoving through the crowd, or crawling amongst their legs, because it is PACKED
Yeah, totally not someone's magical realm at all.

>>>/k/44804826
>SHTF
Seriously? Like this isn't made 100s of times. And this one is a see this-what do? thread on top of that.

Those latter two are the worse kind of "entertain me, 4chan!" threads. Like the last one could just be op describing what he would do and others telling him why it would or wouldn't work.

>>23598996
>2. playing out literally exactly the same as some other thread from last week.
Yes they are.

>Why are you so obsessed with the pendant thread, anyway?
You think I'm sallyfag or something? I haven't even mentioned that thread before then. Don't tell me that really was your thread.

>Otherwise you might as well claims that threads where people want to talk about「thing」are the same for different choices of thing and every single thread on 4chan is the same.
It's the claim you make about touhou and idolmaster character threads and idol generals.

>Name a single hobby board
List every board you consider a hobby board. Also no one said hobby boards at any point before now. Is /sci/ a hobby board? It's in the same category as /tg/ and /k/. Speaking of which, did you go to /tg/ at all yesterday? Or did you entirely miss what happened?

>>23598910
>that sometimes there are threads made with a topic of discussion, where the exact same thread hasn't been made over fifty times before
I've been to "dead" or slow boards before and that's not entirely the case. And the main cause is not the type of content or the format it's being posted as but the fact that it's a slow as fuck board. No reason to expect the same subject thread for the fiftieth time when the previous one is still up after more than a week.

>Maybe you don't agree with the exact numbers here or maybe you have an entertaining explanation why that's actually all the fault of people like me but claiming outright that there's no such thing as an original thread is complete fucking sophistry.
All I've been reading in this thread and similar threads that pop up eventually, not only in /jp/ but across the site, is the distaste on how threads are being handled and a complete apathy towards trying to fix the problem by exiting the general format, making threads about topics people would want to talk about for more than 20 posts or doing anything other than complain. It's the same ritual every time the discussion over generals occurs in most boards: A meta thread about the topic appears complaining about the general format and the conclusion (by them) is always nothing can't be done even if we tried. You may be swimming against the current but there's no reason to stop making new threads about shit you want to talk about.

>>23594830
I remember seeing a post writing it up in another thread a long while ago, and anon inferred it was likely the... AKB general, I think? Because threads above it didn't get bumped in his example of crosslinking and timestamping like 50 posts. I guess it's one of those "I really, really want the OP" things, as if we're futaba and that actually matters, but that's autism for it.

>>23596512
>Sallyfag's Sally was in a vtuber group primarily and he was ousted from those threads in particular,
I've been lurking in those threads since early 2018 before her group even had a youtube channel, Sally wasn't "ousted" from the thread, she was just seen as another vtuber in a slew of a good hundred others at the time. Literally the only things that were notable about her was people went "huh, she's some california/texas/whatever state girl in an idol vtuber group" and how her solo-channel got converted into a group channel, around the time people in there were tapping out of primarily video-creators. I don't even think people knew they were an actual idol group there. Sally was, as much as I hate to admit it because of the very special autist on this board, way more funny compared to the rest of her group, which isn't saying much due to the whole "act proper in Japanese but be a twitter-meme spewing shithead in English", but at least that was comedy no matter how low-brow compared to generic videos. But there was never this explosive "god I fucking hate this girl" thing. Just some off-handed comments about how her channel became boring after it stopped being her channel with her occasionally doing whatever with her group and instead just became another promo tool for them once it got semi-popular. I remember at some point after it became a group channel she even turned her head into an egg, I think for April Fools 2018, and that's all she's really remembered by there; that time she turned into an egg.

If you don't believe me, throw some of her early videos URL's into the archive and you'll see she kinda got discussed for a few weeks before it just naturally slowed down. But I can say assuredly, the vtuber general was kinda shit even back then, but the Sallyfag 100% didn't come from there. Nobody really cared strongly about her there. The real people who'd be freaking out about being "ousted" are the guys who like Kizuna Ai, because some guy a couple threads ago spent three whole hours straight and then another combined 4 hours across a 2 day long thread just posting off-cooldown and yelling at people for not talking about her as much as the FoTM's, which caused a big stink, but you don't really see people posting her VA with a generic tagline and slightly editing the image to change the hash.

>>23596351
Personally ffxiv is the only one I've been playing for years after trying what was available
Blade and soul had a new influx of players after the remaster release but I don't really feel like spending money over something I might not like
It's really hard to find something that's fun and allow enough customization to tickle your desire to play as another character from another franchise into another game
And, I don't think that counts as a real mmo but there's that gta thread modded with 2hu characters that pops from time to time

>>23596488
Does this happen because not enough people report or because not enough people are online during shitpost hours? The only general I attend is the vocaloid one and I've yet to find any /v/ tier post if you are willing to exclude buzzword terminology such as based, baka, full lowercase sentences and so on

>>23598136
>necrobumpers that artificially speed up the board
What's their endgame anyway?

>>23600212
Pick a general, flip a couple coins, and there's the autist you're looking for who's desperate to get an opening post so he can link a different pastebin or whatever. nobody knows where he/they're from and not much anyone can do about it except not talk about it and report it when it happens.

>>23600247
On /vg/ new thread races happen quite a lot. Might be because OP wants a specific opening pic - often avatarfags or people orbiting them - or because he wants to mess with the opening post structure redacting info, pastebins and so on

>>23594830
>>23599913
Whenever it's happening I see deleted hololive and DJT threads on Warosu as well, so it seems like those. It's probably general fags in general though. I don't get why certain generals don't just get banned. The staff can't enjoy deleting 100s of hand picked posts from idol threads every day calling x girl ugly, can they? Really generals have some fucked up stuff. There's some guy always making shitty photoshops of idols as porn stars. A few time the deletions page was full of cucumber images that came from the monstergirl threads. The vtubers seem to be trying to stalk and dox everyone for some reason.

>>23600160
I don't have a clue. I don't think more than one person has to report something because if I happen upon week old porn and report it it'll be deleted, but on the other hand I report so many posts I feel like mods look for reason to ban me for always reporting stuff as off topic. I don't know if they can actual see report ips though. Sometimes they choose to ignore things though. I've had reports be cleared and been able to re-report stuff sometimes.

>>23600359
Necrobumpings been a problem for like 3 years, I don't even think vtuber threads have been around for that long let alone the hololive thread. I'm just going off what I saw way back when and I already hate idol generals by default so even if its not the AKB general in my eyes its the AKB general.

>>23598656
>"how does this make you feel?", "what do?"
I had regex filters for all kind of /v/ patterns in the past but at the end of the day I questioned the utility of hiding them from my eyes doing nothing instead of calling OP out for making yet another shit OP
Thinking I was finally doing everyone a favor I started reporting shit threads on sight but only obvious low quality keyboard-smashing wojack OP were deleted
In conclusion, I think most of the mods and janitors are ok with the new thread patterns even if their OPs make 0 effort into starting a discussion
From the outside /jp/ looks apparently clean but I think it will undergo the same changes other apparently clean boards went through
I don't mean to sound fatalist but I think most of the people and staff are ok with the changes and maybe I might just be out of place

>>23600132
>It's really hard to find something that's fun and allow enough customization to tickle your desire to play as another character from another franchise into another game
That's one reason I play Mabinogi. It's THE dress up game. It even gets anime cross overs sometimes. Currently Kemono Friends, but it's had SAO, Utawarerumono, Vocaloid, a couple other isekai mmo anime that I can't remember, Re: Zero, and Fate/Stay Night. The only thing its missing is a Dragonball Super crossover so you can go oldschool and make xXssj3gogetaXx characters. Oh, it had Ano Hana too, but only overseas but they brought over the hairstyles under other names so you can still make the characters. You can also customize your pets' dialogue, so you can buy a humanoid pet, dress them up, and make them act like a character.
Mabinogi is also easy to go on and just have fun.

I don't see the appeal of FF14 though, but I really don't like the way it looks so I can't give it a chance. Not moe is a real game killer. Moe stuff in realistic looking games is even worse, as bad as 3D trying to act like anime.

>>23600450
>Thinking I was finally doing everyone a favor I started reporting shit threads on sight but only obvious low quality keyboard-smashing wojack OP were deleted
>In conclusion, I think most of the mods and janitors are ok with the new thread patterns even if their OPs make 0 effort into starting a discussion
It's like I typed this and don't remember doing so.

>>23600437
The vtuber threads are at the least from 2018

>>23600450
>>23601321
The problem is that they're complicit in shitposting and low effort threads but against flooding threads and visible shows of disapproval like says "reported" or "sage". They probably misguidedly think of them as "downvoting", but if you're not allowed to express disapproval at something or discourage unwanted actions, how do you let someone know it's not accepted in a community?

It's much better than the spam and NEETblogging/tripfag era but the slow creep of crossboarders using their retarded template threads or saying shit like "based" or "kino" are becoming more obvious. I don't look at VTuber or Idol threads, maybe those are filled with the same wojak and pepe shit but at least other threads seem to have their own identity compared to every other board on this website now that's just "thing i dont like basedface" and other shit

>>23598904
How do you expect half of these "generals" to survive if not by condensing their threads? I agree Idolshit and Ecelebs should fuck off, but threads like Elona, Touhou gameplay, VNTS, Rhythm Games, the buyfag threads (dolls, fumo, etc) and plenty others are all on topic and would be either extremely irritating or die immediately due to being too niche if someone made a new thread every time they got a high score or something. /jp/ was always supposed to condense threads.

>>23598910
There is OC and new discussions on every board, including /jp/ when actual otaku relevant content is happening. Acting like every other board is a bastion of new invigorating discussion is absolutely wrong though. Almost every mid size board like /ck/ or /g/ is filled with the same recurring shit constantly.

Threads on /jp/ that have actual discussion in them stay up for a few days regardless. Unless you get 0 interest from others and nobody posts at all, threads don't just vanish.

>>23588456
Out of fifteen threads on the front page, my filters are hiding twelve and I'm not terribly impressed with the other three.

/jp/ isn't necessarily getting better, it's just getting worse a bit slower than other boards.

>>23601611
I have the feeling we might just be a vocal minority
At least you get to complain in a meta thread. These threads are insta pruned on other boards

>>23601871
Make one you like then, as long as you don't like shitposting.

>>23598904
>more or less ordinary threads
Those right side threads are mostly trash. The GTA one is a general, like it or not. The rest are off topic and/or shitposts excluding that one request thread.

>>23598912
>That retard bumps every thread so they're above the dead generals.
Usually the case, but not entirely true. If your thread pisses off sallyfag, he'll intentionally not bump to push it off the board. He left signatures for awhile, but I think he stopped that for one reason or another:
>>/jp/thread/S23039564

>>23602113
Sallyfag also whines on /qa/ when he doesn't get his way
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/3194517/#3196649

>>23598910
>If you ever leave /jp/ you'll notice that sometimes there are threads made with a topic of discussion,
Do you want me to tell you how I know you're a crossboarder that doesn't know jack shit about what he's saying?

>>23602538
He's not wrong that /jp/ has a large amount of threads that, if not generals, just declare a thread for a character, show, fad, Japanese meme etc. without further comment. It's also not really new either, and most jays seem to be OK with it if they don't dislike the topic.

>>23601735 is pretty much right on the money when he says
>almost every mid size board like /ck/ or /g/ is filled with the same recurring shit constantly.
/jp/ is just the most extreme example of non-general repeat topics, perhaps along with /mlp/ (which I don't browse, but going by their reputation and catalog the composition is similar).

>>23602045
>The GTA one is a general, like it or not
There wasn't thread for at least 2 weeks you dofus.

How do we fix /jp/?
Permaban every person with an IP from a Southeast Asian shithole.

>>23603178
I'd say permaban USA, those fat fucks can't even use VPNs

>>23603178
Just permaban everyone

>>23603178
We kidnap moot and force him to admin the site at gunpoint.

>>23603231
Can't you like buy a pass to post behind vpn or something?

>>23603392
I think so, yeah. I wouldn't know for sure because I don't give money to 4chin

>>23598904
don't forget that threads discussing doujin games get deleted, because apparently they belong on /wsr/

>>23603462
Examples?

If someone is just asking for doujin games that are like x or y, that seems like a clear request thread. Otherwise, I haven't noticed what you are describing.

>>23603544
Maybe request threads masked as discussion in the form of
>where can I find X
>also X thread, I guess

/jp/ has remained as one of the most lax boards on 4chan.

>>23603544
nah, a thread with the subject RPGmaker/freeware games, it's not on warosu because it didn't archive at that time. "stealth request" or not, it's ridiculous that this kind of thread needs to go with the OP getting banned while >>23598904 gets a pass. Good job killing discussion.

https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22924435/
fucking lol
I don't know what it is, boundless stupidity or naivete, thinking that /wsr/ is intended for questions like that. There is no hope left

>>23599443
What a goalpost-moving faggot you are.

>Those latter two are the worse kind of "entertain me, 4chan!" threads
It's honestly difficult to comprehend how fucked you have to be in the head to consider threads bad because the OP wanted to create something entertaining.

>>23599496
>It's the claim you make about touhou and idolmaster character threads and idol generals.
Most Touhou and Idolmaster character threads are so completely and utterly fucking identical that if you took two different threads created at two different times, cut them in half down the middle, and stitched them back the wrong way, literally nobody would notice the difference. That's not actually true for threads where *something is being discussed*, including, yes, the idol generals assuming they're actually talking about something rather than just dumping shit off instagram and calling each other's idols uggos.

>List every board you consider a hobby board. Also no one said hobby boards at any point before now.
Pretty much all of them except /int/, /news/, and /pol/.

>Or did you entirely miss what happened?
Why would I give a shit what happened in /tg/ yesterday? Did 80% of it suddenly become shit? Literally one hundred twenty pepe threads on the catalog, or what?

>>23599541
It has nothing to do with being a "slow" board, but the format of the board. /jp/ has a completely respectable posting speed, its a top twenty 4chan board. The place we stand out is not in posts per day or number of people posting, but in threads per hour. People don't make threads. I'm not even saying this is good or bad right now, I'm just making the fucking observation, and for some reason there's people in this thread militantly intent on somehow not seeing that this is the case.

>>23602538
>Do you want me to tell you how I know you're a crossboarder that doesn't know jack shit about what he's saying?
Probably because I mentioned other boards. I also browse other websites. What's it to you, faggot? You only have one hobby? Maybe only visit one website? I've forgotten more about /jp/ than you've ever known.

Incidentally, "crossboarder" is a term imported to /jp/ by faggots fresh from /a/ in 2012-13 who used it to arbitrarily shit on everything they didn't like for being "crossboard." No, one-off spontaneous usages in 2009 (and not even derogatory ones, that) you managed to dig out of the archive don't mean shit. I'm talking about when the term entered the common vernacular. Stop using it. Faggot.

>>23601611
>They probably misguidedly think of them as "downvoting"
That's exactly what it is: downvoting through shitposting. I found kopipe bombing as entertaining as anything else but it only serves one purpose, which is to make threads unusable. There's a reason it hasn't been allowed for ten years now, especially when it allows one person with a phone to ruin threads unilaterally.

Take the coin thread, for example. I promise you I could not give less of a shit about the actual coin. But what actually happened to the thread is an atrocity: one person (this person HAPPENED, of course, to be sallyfag, but it could have been anyone) relentlessly shitposted in it and called it low quality until the mods got tired of babysitting and deleted it. He's like a caricature of self-elected /jp/ board police.

>>23604985
/jp/s post rate is completely skewed by the VTuber influx. Vtube/Hololive/etc or idol threads smash the bump limit extremely quickly while most other threads don't come close or limp along for a couple weeks before hitting it. The people that come here and make a shitton of posts in those threads post in those threads exclusively. People who come here for Hololive would never make their own thread about actual otaku culture nor would they have any interest in discussing it like a typical browing /jp/ user would. I guarantee people that post in the maybe 5 post a day mahjong thread are not the same kind of people, and they're more likely to actually post about other shit. The sheer number of eceleb fags just overwhelm them. Nobody who looks at /jp/ thinks its a faster board when you can see these threads have 600+ posts and everything else is 200 max, often under 100.

Thankfully compared to other boards they tend to wait before making new threads, since they know their thread generally won't be pushed out until bump-kun shows up. This is why there's such a disparity in post count vs thread creation.

The on-topic generals are not a problem at all. They're slow and deliberate for a reason and creating a thread each time someone wants to talk about beating EoSD normal would be a waste. Those threads are not stifling discussion. The idol/Vtube threads just inflate the post rate relative to the actual population and interests of the board.

>>23605257
>Thankfully compared to other boards they tend to wait before making new threads, since they know their thread generally won't be pushed out until bump-kun shows up.
It would actually be a lesser evil if they just made a new thread when the old thread hit image limit instead of having someone who cycled thirty threads so they could have an excuse to do it.

>>23605257
Tl;dr
If generals disappeared, this board would be as fast as /c/ or /t/

>>23605364
No. Thats a horrible idea.

>>23605536
They don't hit image limit for 2k-3k posts. Their threads cap out at something like 4k. I don't see why three short-lived duplicate threads would be worse for the board than several dozen zombie threads.

>>23605536
>>23605536
It already happens.
Only the Hololive thread consistently hits image limit before page 9/10, and in that case a new thread is made.

The usual posting ratio of 3000/300 is hardly imagespam, and I'm pretty sure meido deleting new thread after new thread for hours to force people to stay on a thread where they can't post images is an even worse idea.

>>23603178
>Permaban every person with an IP from a Southeast Asian shithole.
That would turn /jp/ into a ghost town though

>>23603178
>permaban SEAniggers
>/jp/ is freed of shitty Vtubers and JAV
i am okay with this

>>23589437
>Whos pygma?
>>/jp/thread/8274857#p8275153
All you need to know.
If you want. Try these.

>>/jp/image/BjAmooWFe_Be3NfLIZPfeA
>>/jp/image/p3DzAIwb_STxBuhj249ppw
>>/jp/image/56FBuFOMAHxr5UquKjWMdA
>>/jp/image/YW4HYP9I6JOsHZENADk7dA
>>/jp/image/p3DzAIwb_STxBuhj249ppw
>>/jp/thread/S8274318#p8274443
>>/jp/image/NZMxlZlcnSxXOpL1Na_gkA
>>/jp/thread/10520184#p10529887
>>/jp/image/pynKZ7ChBYI1GGV68Oy_Rw
>>/jp/image/Nue3wNcNziwPHjT8QftF9A
>>/jp/image/Vb_6JL63ozJRbbtquGLWmg
>>/jp/image/k--bvxM4JucWqVR8NtD9RQ
>>/jp/image/Z971cenwuo-qUPAwDfGGag

>>/jp/thread/11066310#p11066637
>>/jp/thread/8282541#p8282706
>>/jp/thread/10760070#p10760434

Here's something disgusting for you
https://i.warosu.org/data/jp/img/0105/20/1361717100909.jpg

>>/jp/thread/S6632680#p6632687

>>23606017
also 90% of idols and seiyuu posters

>>23606128
SEAniggers are a main cause of /jp/ being shit. Its also responsible for almost every post that has "i want to fuck [touhou character]" threads. I get it, you like porn. Go to the porn boards for that. Hell i find it amusing that the porn boards dont even get used they just collect dust because people dont explore 4chan they just stay in their respective boards.

also SEAniggers are subhumans

>>23606150
>Its also responsible for almost every post that has "i want to fuck [touhou character]" threads
Lurk moar, those threads have been here since /jp/ was a thing.

>>23606168
No shit they've always been here but the threads always dive into /d/ tier shit or imagedumps. discuss or GTFO

>>23603155
There wasn't a Gust or a Rozen either for a while but those are counted among the generals there. I'd wager the OC thread would be too if there had been one up.

>>23606171
>/d/ tier shit
I don't think wanting to fuck a character falls under /d/.
>imagedumps
People post images on an imageboard? It's more likely than you think.

>>23606185
check >>23423260 because thats /d/ shit on a blue board

>>23606128
>>23606150
Tell me about them. They are the sole reason why the Sakamichi general went in the shitter. Those Indonesian Nogizaka fans shitpost, spam, samefag, falseflag and derail the general 24/7 yet the meido doesn’t do shit about them.

Complain complain complain
This looks like an appropriate thread to lurk. Anyway, I went through
some hard times in Japan. Shit was tough man. I finally scraped some
money together and visited Japan with my NEET dollars and I'll tell
you this. That trip was nothing short of horrible. Horrible. Some girl
from Shibuya sucked my dick and all of a sudden a bunch of Yakuza
dudes started running toward me. I mean, I bench around 750kg so they
won't touch me in all reality but I said fuck it and ran directly to
the police station only to find out that the police were also Yakuza
so I booked it and I was chased down the streets of Tokyo for the next
5 hours straight nonstop and got away by running into a local bar
which also had a Yakuza but also 12 /jp/ dudes of similar build so he
was outnumbered and left the bar. The Yakuza dudes from before kept
running down the street thinking they were chasing me. I went home and
to sleep only to wake up the next day and turn on the Japanese
Television and directly to the news channel in the middle of the day
as my NEET routine allows and I saw on the headlines that someone got
stabbed on the street some time after I went home and immediately knew
that was the work of the Yakuza. It was some fat smelly NEET who left
the house on his half year routine of restocking on food, internet,
and other NEET shit. Apparently he wore the same hoodie so he had no
chance to defend or explain himself. The Yakuza ran up and stabbed him
through the back and into his pancreas apparently.
They were evil enough to sprawl his shit all over the ground and set
that shit on fire.
100 dead in street fire. That moment when I single handedly pissed off
the Yakuza and had someone pay my Yakuza debts from 2004 and the
mountains of cash I stole from their safe, ratted them out and moved
to the complete opposite end of the country while contuing my horrible
NEET ways of browsing /jp/ and shitposting on 5ch.


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>>23598904
>- booru imagedump template threads for 2hu
Nothing wrong with that.
>iM@S characters where the posting quality makes /b/ and /tv/ look like they're the best boards on 4chan
Idols are cancer, whether 3DPD or 2D.
>- the same clique generals always on page 1, that are pretty much Discord chatrooms at this point
Literally nothing wrong with some of these like /fumo/ or Touhou Gameplay. DJT is good on paper but it's drama and borderline d*scord in practice. /hgg/ is literally a /vg/ outpost that belongs in /h/
>- more or less ordinary threads that very frequently die with few posts due to being buried under hundreds of shitpost threads
aka old style /jp/ threads. Really makes you think.

>>23606326
XD thanks man
>>23606332
>old /jp/ threads
they'd at least get to 50 replies before being buried. most die in like 5 hours because of some SEAnigger wanting to jerk it to their shitty idol whore

>>23588539
When the fuck will we ban vtubers from /jp/.
>B-BUH MUH IDOLZ
No. Doesn't fucking matter. Ban them anyways,

>>23598904
Idolmaster dump threads are easily the most pointless ones and I am pretty sure all of them are made by the same 2 people over and over again who only get happy if their dead thread stays alive for a month.

>>23606348
>they'd at least get to 50 replies before being buried. most die in like 5 hours because of some SEAnigger wanting to jerk it to their shitty idol whore
vtuber/hololive crap got so huge so fast even 3DPD idols and g*cha are dwarfed by it. I feel really out of touch, where did that come from and why is it so popular?

>>23606397
Blame KIRYU COCO for all of this.

>>23606397
Simply put: /v/ and their love for some shitty japanese streamer with some "cute" facerig playing video games. its literally just watching a twitch stream but with that. Nothing special, nothing unique, all the same fucking shit

>>23604843
>Did 80% of it suddenly become shit? Literally one hundred twenty pepe threads on the catalog, or what?
Yes. Some shit about how orcs represented black people and negative stereotypes thereof was trending on twitter and /tg/ was nothing but racebaiting threads.

>>23605257
>People who come here for Hololive would never make their own thread about actual otaku culture nor would they have any interest in discussing it like a typical browing /jp/ user would.
Factually wrong. I already posted earlier an example of someone posting about a vtuber named Pekora in a Reisen thread, and one tuber, I forget her name, but the one pictured here, got her own peaceful threads for a while.

>>23606693
No. She got her thread because everyone who shit on her got their posts deleted

>>23606389
>>23606332
Imagine being on an otaku board and not liking one of the cornerstones of otaku culture. It's like hating Vocaloid.

>>23606746
Anime and vidya in general are also cornerstones of otaku culture. Just sayin'.

>>23606705
Wow, almost like she was being treated the same as any other on-topic character instead of receiving special white-glove treatment.

>>23606801
>Anime and vidya in general are also cornerstones of otaku culture
Idolmaster and Touhou are video games. What of it? VNs are too, arguably, at least the ones where you get to make choices or even decide where to go and when to do stuff. Yume Nikki is a video game. Etc. /jp/ is for stuff that is otaku but not anime because there's a board for it. /v/ doesn't like "weeaboo games", or didn't at creation, so that's why a board for Touhou and VNs even exists, although /vg/ made it redundant.

>>23606661
I passed the front page of /tg/ a few times that day and, while I did notice some a few shitty culture war threads, I scrolled past them and went about my business, as I have no doubt the vast majority of /tg/ users also did. 80% of a board is not destroyed on any board on 4chan these days outside of raids.

>>23606746
Your opinion of Idolmaster and Touhou as series and your opinion of the threads in /jp/ don't have to be the same or even correlated.

>>23606875
/jp/ - Otaku Culture
Not
/jp/ - vtubers

She got flack for being outside her general
You don’t get a free pass because you got exiled. Sallyfag is eternally assmad and so are you.

>>23607163
Bonus points: reply with the moot memo macro

>>23589297
Wait so the Jurassic Park spamming wasn't my mind playing tricks on me? That's hilarious! I remember being really confused when that would happen.

>>23607163
Vtubers are equally as on-topic as whatever characters you favor. There is no clause in the rules saying you get to indiscriminately shit on on-topic threads because you don't like them.

>>23607169
>Bonus points: reply with the moot memo macro
If you want people to condense their shit there's one series that fails to condense its shit above all others.

>>23607169
What, you mean the macro quoting this?
>>/jp/thread/S8564813#p8565089

>>23607369
False.
It has a thread for each medium and the rest for the board.
/jp/ is and always has been the Touhou Board.
That was its purpose and still is its purpose.

>>23607458
Bingo

>>23607468
Its purpose was to move tfwnogf threads from /a/ and give moot an excuse not to make a VN board

>>23607468
>It has a thread for each medium and the rest for the board.
Utterly braindead convention that didn't start until well over five years after the board was created, and one you're using an attempted license to shitpost.

>/jp/ is and always has been the Touhou Board.
Well, yes. That's one of the topics of the board. Just like how it's also the figurines board, and the visual novels board, even if nobody cares about some of those anymore. But it has no special dispensation in the rules and never has.

>>23607526
>figurines board
Name the last time there was a figurine thread on fucking /jp/. Fumos don’t count.

>>23607625
>even if nobody cares about some of those anymore
Figurines have been within the scope of /jp/ since >>>1, even if they haven't been seen in the wild since 2015.

>>23607163
If virtual shilltubers get axed from /jp/ it would be a great step towards healing /jp/.

The only solution is to split /jp/ into /2hu/ (Touhou) and /jc/ (Japanese Culture) while simultaneously creating /idol/ (for all celebrity discussion, internet or otherwise) to push the Idolfags and VYTfags in. Prove me wrong. You can't.

>>23608456
/jp/ random and /jp/ japanese culture for the grandpas that can't keep up.
Virtual Cancer should be banned on the spot or moved to /vg/ because every shit gets moved there.

>>23608456
How about we just kick super fast generals so we can have slow jaypee again.

>>23608495
/djt/ youtuber, jav and gravure threads out. I don't even care that much about the idol generals except that they are too fast sometimes.

>>23608495
How about we put /jp/ behind a pay wall?

It's really great that you guys have ideas about new boards that would fix /jp/ but new boards that would theoretically fix /jp/ have been proposed about a million times and as you can see we are all still here.

Like, /jp/ can't even get a single janitor to track down one very unsubtle spamming shithead, and you want the admin to descend from heaven to build you a new board.

>>23608552
So I guess we just shouldn't discuss and talk our frustrations with a place that we like being corrupted over time? at least talking about it will help us cope. /y2/, /celeb/ and /idol/ are objectively good ideas for boards that would save /jp/ and even other boards like /tv/ /mu/ and /pol/ from being even shittier than what they are now. also /jp/ having these meta threads are /jp/ culture, which is why they are never moved to /qa/ most of the time.

>>23608600
Cry me a river, faggot. How about you make a /jp/ general to complain everyday because you sure don't like making new threads.

>>23608600
Complaining about something, wishlisting for something (in the abstract way you'd wishlist for a billion dollars), and talking about things like they have a chance of happening are three separate things.

>also /jp/ having these meta threads are /jp/ culture, which is why they are never moved to /qa/ most of the time.
From 2014-2019 metathreads were more or less shot on sight. I am sort of legit surprised this one's still up.

i just want touhou to incline again :)

>>23608534
>>23608495
>>23608456
>Prove me wrong.
Look at any /jp/ spinoff. Those guys got what they want.

>>23608600
>even other boards like /tv/
There is NOTHING that would save /tv/. Not one thing. Every single thread they make about everything is shit.

>>23608640
making new threads is a losing proposition in /jp/

if your op is too short the "WOW LOW QUALITY OP" quality thread police shitpost it into oblivion and if it's too long nobody replies because they don't have anything to match the phd thesis in the OP with

>>23609351
>making new threads is a losing proposition in /jp/
So you don't want to do anything other than complain? Now that's what I call progress.

>>23609433
i could be the laziest faggot on earth but that wouldn't make my observation any less accurate

>So you don't want to do anything other than complain?
i stopped creating new threads after the mods deleted a bunch of my high-effort threads several years back

>>23609454
Ok go it, you just want to keep complaining over some hurtful anecdotes and still do nothing.

>>23609351
Threads should be made with the intent of informing or driving discussion, not with the intent of gaining attention and lots of posts. Contribute, create.

>>23609454
>high-effort threads
un-huh

>>23609510
and you're here complaining about people complaining. massive improvement.

>>23609528
discussion is driven by replies. an OP is a monologue, not a dialogue. monologues don't "drive discussion" no matter how much "effort" you put into them. what drives dialogue is people talking to each other and asking questions, not OP doing his very best to put on a ted talk to a brick wall.

>high-effort threads
i have had threads where i spent over an hour putting together video or stitching up images for the OP deleted without fanfare. now, a technical wizard could have probably done the same thing in five minutes, but i'm not one. i had to look up shit in the manual every step of the way. but i'm talking about EFFORT, which isn't measured by the objective difficulty of the task, but how much effort you put into it.

but you can go ahead and pretend that nah, actually, i'm just bitter for no reason at all, furiously mad that the janitor deleted my mass-produced OHIO spam thread or whatever you want to pretend it was.

>>23609695
>discussion is driven by replies.
Replies are driven by interesting content. People can comment on the image you drew. They can ask questions about your ted talk.

Link your high effort threads so I can laugh at you and mock you in detail.

>>23609747
>Replies are driven by interesting content. People can comment on the image you drew. They can ask questions about your ted talk.
nobody fucking watches ted talks. tl;dr exists for a reason.

>Link your high effort threads
what, you can actually remember threads you made three fucking years ago offhand? here's a thread i made last year: >>21082191. i actually forgot i made any threads last year, before scrolling past it on search terms. all threads i make i try to put at least this much effort into. i also made the long-ass KF nicovideo clusterfuck summary posts in a previous iteration of the catchall thread >>21120268. every single individual one of those posts probably took over three hours to compile. when i effortpost i do go all out.

>so I can laugh at you and mock you in detail.
what is the fucking POINT of literally choosing a priori that you're going to attempt to tear me down and shit on me to the best of your ability? i'm sorry my threads aren't fucking fantastic? am i being indicted before a fucking grand jury, and nobody told me?

my observations of what happens to threads in /jp/ would be the same either fucking way. watching perfectly good threads get mobbed or deleted is an utterly fucking demoralizing experience and there's multiple examples of such referenced in this very thread by people who aren't me.

>>23606377
In what are do vtubers fall in japan? Is it an otaku thing or not?

>>23606693
Noooo it's dirty don't soil the pantyhose

>>23609859
>tl;dr exists for a reason.
Yeah, it indicates that your post is, in fact, too uninteresting to read. Length doesn't actually have anything to do with it.

>>23609859
>what, you can actually remember threads you made three fucking years ago offhand?
Yeah. Here's one I made in 2013. >>/jp/thread/S10871786 You might notice a trash can, but that's because of a tripfag infestation and turning into a meta thread at the bottom 12 days later. I don't get why you're reacting that way though, since you remember making the threads, making a video, and the thread being deleted. If you can't remember any words of the OP, then you should probably consider that it really was a shitty OP then.

>Your posts
Oh, /a/ shit that no one cares about anymore. No wonder. I probably shit on you before about that overhyped trash series, and probably in that show and tell thread too. I don't know why you people insist on spamming that shit in /jp/ because you couldn't cut it in /a/. Of course you're tripfagging as well, makes sense you have a fragile ego. And yes, I did actually make tl;dr posts in that thread unrelated to you, such as >>21068869.
How do you feel about >>23392965 >>23594118 btw?

>what is the fucking POINT of literally choosing a priori that you're going to attempt to tear me down and shit on me to the best of your ability?
From what I've just seen, I've probably bullied you multiple times in the past and can just detect you now.

>perfectly good threads
And what are these thread? The ones with anime screen cap OPs?
>utterly fucking demoralizing experience
Stop being a drama queen. Your thread being deleted isn't the end of the world.
>every single individual one of those posts probably took over three hours to compile
What do you want, a headpat and a dicksuck? A gold star for effort?

That other guy was right, why do you like to just bitch and moan? Why do you even come here still if it hurts you so much? Even your kemono friends tl;drs were about people bitching and moaning.

>>23610483
Who would watch 3D anime girls play video games and act 'moe' if not Otaku? Does this seem like something non-otaku would care about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tdmtX5KXw
If you mention >Minecraft, /jp/ had a server for a while some years back.

>>23608643
>I am sort of legit surprised this one's still up.
Not so surprised if you consider what's left up on other boards. Maybe a new policy of let the thread die while I - a mod or janny - do something else irl

>>23610641
>3D anime girls
Then I don't get the reason behind proposing a ban of topic X or Y?
Are people really going for "this is not otaku enough"?

>>23610641
>Who would watch 3D anime girls play video games and act 'moe' if not Otaku?
Children who have watched their first entry level anime and call themselves weebs.

>>23588456
No. Monster girls was the real nail in the coffin, but moot's raids and other generals getting pushed here has caused the board to degenerate in original /jp/ content to the point that it is unrecognizable.

>>23610641
>If you can't remember any words of the OP, then you should probably consider that it really was a shitty OP then.
the notion that all posts you've made you can't remember must have been shit are completely braindead.

>What do you want, a headpat and a dicksuck? A gold star for effort?
i didn't fucking barge into this thread saying i'm the fucking god-emperor of quality posting and you should all bow before the king of /jp/ and suck his giant quality thread dick. all i did was make observations on elements of /jp/ culture that discourage the creation of new threads. as far as i can tell, nobody has even bothered to dispute those observations because it's apparently more entertaining to shit on the person making them in literally whatever way you can, even though it literally shouldn't matter who the person making them was.

you demanded that i prove, for some reason, that sometime in the history of /jp/ that i ever put effort into an OP. so i went and picked out some posts that demostrated effort, if nothing else. and the moment i do, you shift gears and use those posts to shit on me personally even though it no longer has literally fucking anything to do with the observation.

>How do you feel about >>23392965 >>23594118 btw?
it's your right to have an opinion on shows. was i in there shitting down your throat for having a bad opinion? why would i possibly give a shit?

>From what I've just seen, I've probably bullied you multiple times in the past and can just detect you now.
from what i can see, you go out of to your way to make every dispute as personal as you can possibly can.

>That other guy was right, why do you like to just bitch and moan?
you're bitching and moaning literally right now about a poster you don't like.

>>23610788
>Children who have watched their first entry level anime and call themselves weebs.
like nine tenths of that shit isn't subbed

people who are actively watching streams and following whatever braindead social media drama is going on in real-time have a higher powerlevel than 90% of anime watchers

>>23608643
>I am sort of legit surprised this one's still up.
Yeah, this threads basically garbage like every other meta thread. I get venting frustrations is important but at the same time this thread's definitely going to hit bumplimit before it gets deleted, and it's pretty much just been entirely walls of text of a few anons butting heads back and forth and some vtuber shit thrown around. Basically the only thing of worth I've gotten from this thread is blowing off a little steam myself, but earlier anons are right; /jp/'s never going to be "cured" because janitors don't do shit, and when they do shit it quickly becomes them doing too much shit, the same applies to mods, and admins/hiromoot will NEVER make another board because that means paying for more server space, and please forgive me for being far more green than I should be but;
>hiromoot spending money to improve the site
He will literally destroy the site before he does that. Don't forget that day and a half when he put literal malware ads that broke the site because it made him a couple extra bucks. Current /jp/ still isn't as bad as other boards which'd get the migration far faster than we ever would assuming that would ever happen in a million years, and until we get days where everyones frogposting in the few threads I do look at consistently, I'm fine with /jp/ being the slowly dying mess it is.

>>23610731
They want idols and anything resembling idols off the board. The problem is this though, idol fans are fundamentally otaku(or young girls). They are probably the worst kinds of otaku if you use the word properly and not to mean "anime fan" or "moe buta", but some people (like me) dislike seeing real Japanese women and people fawning over them, some dislike the thread speed, some dislike anything even slightly idolish and include im@s in it for some reason even though it's a raising/management game series with some anime and mobile game spinoffs and not just anime idols like Love Live and Bang Dream. (and those fans will rush to say something, but im@s is characters first, actors second.)

There's also a problem of vtubers being essentially lets players but with mocap, and thus no different from the likes of markiplier et alii, with the people overreacting to basic gaming moments for viewcounts. It also does attract bad kinds of people, who want to make Japanese girls say weird things in English. Apparently there was some shitstorm in the thread a while back about making the youtubers say twitch memes they didn't understand. Also the whole nigger incident inducing them to shitpost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDNtLYnYJbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3kLMHeY3c
There were others I think but that's all I can be bothered looking for, since it's just an example.
They're (the hololive thread) being particularly annoying now because it seems someone is doxxing the vtubers and spreading images of them around and orbiting them and the other shit stalkers do and causing shitstorms. If anything it's reason enough /celeb/ shouldn't exist. It'd be twitter's "don't search /tv/ - television and film on google images" all day every day and I guarantee someone would cause a real stalking/harassment incident with real repercussions, not just some minor "fappening".

Incidentally, I dislike lets players and feel vtubers should be a /v/ or /vg/ thing, but in the end I admit moot was right, it is otaku. Referring to >>23607458 where you can see moot's
>/jp/ is "otaku culture", not "japanese culture". did you miss the memo?
is followed by
>how does KS not fall under OTAKU culture?
in reference to people not wanting Katawa Shoujo threads.

The only things I really want gone are JAV, Gravure, Seiyuu, and Onaholes. Seiyuu can go to /a/ or /vg/ threads they're related to as necessary or count as off-topic actor/actress discussion, and the rest need to go to some /fap/ board so they can eternally whine about "no discussion on porn boards" while only asking for source and recommendations between complaining about black dicks.

>>23610790
>Monster girls was the real nail in the coffin
You mean the thread, right. Monstergirls, as in games and images related to the encyclopedia/bestiary type worlds and not just Touhous and catgirls, were unironically posted in /jp all through the formative years of the fetish, even when they were just moe Dragon Quest monsters, before going away and getting corrupted by the general virus.

They also cause bascially no harm to /jp/ and do more harm to themselves than anything despite being some of the worst posters.

>>23611006
>Seiyuu can go to /a/
Seiyuu threads used to be on /a/ before they were moved to /jp/ for "not being anime." The one constant /jp/ will never escape is that it is, and will always be, /a/'s trash dump. And as long as it's serving that purpose the mods will never lift a finger to "fix" it, any more than they feel compelled to fix /trash/.

>>23611022
>The one constant /jp/ will never escape is that it is, and will always be, /a/'s trash dump.
And /h/'s. And /int/'s, if you count /jp/'s /djt/ as a dumpster thread, which it is. /jp/ is just otaku /trash/ and it's shocking so many people are still surprised by this.

>>23611022
/a/ mods castrated the board itself with the non-anime rhetoric
Literally nothing allowed anymore and if you complain in irc for a christmas thread deleted you get treated like the weird one for being childish or for caring about "non existing" /a/ culture
/a/ nowadays is all about shonen, /v/ low effort posts and baits. /jp/ might be /a/'s trash can but it's still better than what /a/ has become

>>23611006
>Seiyuu
Not so sure about that but I agree for the rest. Don't mean to go all 3dpd but jav-gravure-ona cluster is just off topic in my opinion

>>23611006
>moot stuff
moot actually lost that argument seeing as how we didn't end up with KS after all. when they regenerated the rules of /jp/ they pretty much put all japanese shit into the board ("diverse niche Japanese interests") precisely for the purpose of putting an end to five years of faggots furiously trying to argue each other in or out of the board based on whether something was "otaku" enough.

/jp/'s rules weren't created to please the community. they were created to reduce work for the mods. enjoy your gravure.

>>23611095
/djt/ actually comes from /a/. the mods tried to kick it into /int/ and the posters wouldn't go.

>>23610803
>>How do you feel about >>23392965 >>23594118 btw?
>it's your right to have an opinion on shows. was i in there shitting down your throat for having a bad opinion? why would i possibly give a shit?
No, I meant how do you feel about the crossover? Do you like it enough to play that game for it or do you not really care quite that much about the series you seem to have a burning passion for? Or do you play it and are enjoying the crossover? I forgot you're so disturbed you think everything everyone does is shitting on you.

>you go out of to your way to make every dispute as personal as you can possibly can.
Literally projecting

>i didn't fucking barge into this thread saying i'm the fucking god-emperor of quality posting and you should all bow before the king of /jp/ and suck his giant quality thread dick. all i did was make observations on elements of /jp/ culture that discourage the creation of new threads.
No, you came being argumentative and crying because no one liked your threads, saying there's no point in making threads at all since the ones you make get shitposted in or deleted. You also said all threads you don't like should be moved to other boards.

>>23609454
>i stopped creating new threads after the mods deleted a bunch of my high-effort threads several years back
You stopped making threads because you made something you thought was fucking amazing, it was deleted, and you couldn't recover from the anal pain.

>you demanded that i prove, for some reason, that sometime in the history of /jp/ that i ever put effort into an OP.
No, I demanded you show me your threads so I could laugh at you. I said as such in my post.
>the moment i do, you shift gears and use those posts to shit on me personally
Did you think after I said I was going to "mock you in detail" I was going to turn around and go "oh wow anon(ymous of Japari Park !ZDTUf/OzoM), your posts are so well thought out, I don't understand why anyone would want to ignore or delete them!" upon seeing your posts?

>the notion that all posts you've made you can't remember must have been shit are completely braindead.
>are completely braindead.
>you go out of to your
I'm sorry for your brain problems, anon.

>>23611234
>No, I meant how do you feel about the crossover?
i have no opinion on the crossover because i'm not playing mabinogi.

>I forgot you're so disturbed you think everything everyone does is shitting on you.
someone who failed to notice that the primary purpose of your posts is to shit on me would be actually braindead.

>saying there's no point in making threads at all since the ones you make get shitposted in or deleted.
that's not what i said. pay attention to the difference.
>You also said all threads you don't like should be moved to other boards.
and i never said anything *remotely* similar to this in any way, shape, or form.

>You stopped making threads because you made something you thought was fucking amazing, it was deleted, and you couldn't recover from the anal pain.
that times a hundred and observing it happen to countless other people actually comes out to more or less right.

>Did you think after I said I was going to "mock you in detail"
i thought it might be a rhetorical turn of phrase rather than an actual declaration of intent to be as much of an asshole as was within your ability. clearly i was wrong.

>>23611297
>>23611234
Now now you two, stop arguing and kiss

>>23610965
>please forgive me for being far more green than I should be but;
When will we end this? "Who are you quoting" was a shitpost by spam era shitposters. It originally had some value in telling people to fuck off with epic greentext stories but posters started acting like you can't use the quotation functions at all and that no one ever used them as misquotes on /jp/.

>>23610965
Oh and I forgot, /bant/ and /s4s/ were made and exist as random/anime boards, but for some reason no one wants to use them unless it says /jp/ on it.

>>23611460
A big problem 4chan has now is people who weren't around during some time telling people how things were then and how things "are done around here" Maybe this has always been a problem and I've just been around long enough to see it now. Often I see people just make random shit up and then say
>No this is board culture things have to be this way because x
when it was never that way in the first place and x doesn't matter.

>>23611297
>and i never said anything *remotely* similar to this in any way, shape, or form.
>>23608600
>/y2/, /celeb/ and /idol/ are objectively good ideas for boards that would save /jp/ and even other boards like /tv/ /mu/ and /pol/ from being even shittier than what they are now.

>>23611547
that wasn't me, fuckwit. in fact, >>23608600 who you think is me is literally replying to my post.

>>23611483
/bant/ is a /b/-lite chatroom at this point. I would assume that most people that are here and are wildly shitposting just don't like the fact the threads move at an incredible pace and are filled with unironic cancer. Here we still can have months old threads, which is imo quite nice to have.

>>23611598
un-huh. >>23609528 (me) is replying to >>23609454 (you) is replying to >>23609433 (some guy) is replying to >>23609351 (you) is replying to >>23608640 (some guy) is replying to >>23608600 (you) is replying to >>23608552. Now if you want to say you were replying to yourself, sure. But the entire chain of telling you to stfu about your deleted threads started there.
Now whether you want to say you were pretending to be retarded to derail the thread or are an actual retard who jumped into an argument not directed at them, there's nothing else really left to say.

>>23611623
>Here we still can have months old threads, which is imo quite nice to have.
Honestly they should bring back "marked for deletion (old)". 4chan wasn't intended to be a forum with months old threads.
>/bant/ is a /b/-lite chatroom at this point.
This is what will happen to anything. I don't think anyone even really wants "/jp/ - anime/random" but "/jp/ - only talk about things I want you to talk about", since random means random and deleting non anime things wouldn't be random but just /a/2.
>I would assume that most people that are here and are wildly shitposting just don't like the fact the threads move at an incredible pace
Those types typically complain that the board is too slow for them and spam threads in an attempt to speed it up. Why would they complain that some individual thread is really quick in a sea of slow threads?

>>23611689
i posted >>23608552. >>23608600 replied to me. this was a conversation with two people in it, neither of whom were you. YOU are the one who jumped into a conversation by replying to a post that wasn't directed at you. why the fuck did you do that?

well, actually, that part made fucking sense. arguments are equal-opportunity, anyone can respond to any arguments they want. what doesn't make any fucking sense, not even a LITTLE bit of fucking sense whatsoever, is why you would in literally the same fucking reply chain decide that if someone replies to you he must be the person who you replied to. that logic would make you me in literally the third step in the chain. and wouldn't that be a fucking horror show.

>>23611805
forgot my image

>>23611813
Doesn't really prove anything since you can toggle yous on and off

>>23611831
i could delete the original post if you like. that won't prove that >>23608600 wasn't me, but it would prove that >>23608552 was me. then it would be up to you whether you think it's more likely that a random anonymous jackoff you found on the internet is more likely to have:

A. entered a random argument at a point where anyone could have stepped in without it being surprising
B. decided to argue with himself, apropos of literally fucking nothing, for no reason whatsoever

>>23611755
>Why would they complain that some individual thread is really quick in a sea of slow threads?
That is fair, didn't really think too hard about it.
>"/jp/ - only talk about things I want you to talk about"
I understand, but the title of the board - "Otaku Culture" is really vague. Like, why is the photography thread in here but not on /p/? Or, why is the train thread not on /n/?

That's why I don't really like the meme of "/jp/ is going to ruin itself". Things like these are ever-changing. There's just this many times we can laugh about Sakuya padding or Miki being a slut before it gets old and boring. From there on, people just pick out the next thing to latch onto.

Though, I like these threads because it gives comparative noobs like me an insight of what the board really thinks of itself, even if it is just a cacophony of "give me a time machine pl0x"

>>23588456
Starting lurking about 2 years ago and back then I thought it was good, didn't seem like as many crossborders back then and we could have a good fairy thread every couple of weeks, now we haven't had a good fairy thread to months it seems like although the ones alive now aren't too bad

>>23610641
I don't understand this rage over some temporary character skins from a series you didn't even know still exists, let alone watched

>>23611159
>the mods tried to kick it into /int/ and the posters wouldn't go.
That's what I was implying but admittedly not everyone here visits /int/, which is fine because fuck /int/, but /int/ has their own /djt/ threads which are leagues better than /jp/'s at least last I checked either of them, specifically because /jp/'s /djt/ didn't fuck off to another board as everyone on this site is too stubborn to do. It's shocking how much better a thread can be when it's not filled with namefags and memes from some group outside of the site.

>>23608493
We get a a general or three moved from either /v/ or /a/ yearly by force.
Most generals migrate actually arise originally in /jp/, or are moved by the regulars from /vg/ because /vg/ is too fast for them.

Even the vtuber general emerged on /jp/, rather than another general being moved here from another board, because vtubers seem to have been generally treated as off-topic on those boards from the get-go.

>>23612307
Imagine every day you woke up, you found your pockets full of idol photographs, a bunch of papers with phone numbers written on them, and a point card on your table. Every half hour you find some more idol photographs in your pocket. You check your messages and have a bunch saying that if you go and find those idols and do menial tasks for them, they'll give you a stamp on your point card and when you collect enough stamps you'll get a rare piece of idol merchandise. You can also turn in photographs for a chance to roll a wheel of fortune for more stamps, but you get less stamps than helping the idols and a greater chance of getting junk not even related to them.

Now after research, it turns out no one cares about any of the idols so the merch is worthless, but there's a couple of storage bins there you could use yourself that aren't notably marked with 3D pigs. So you call the idols and ask where they are and go do the tasks and get the items and are done, but you still get your pockets filled up every day. You get a bunch of the same messages every day too. You're rolling the wheel because you have too many photos you can't do anything with and getting crap that takes up space in your home in return. You're aware that this is going to keep happening for weeks.

>>23612450
I would very much like having the fish here

>>23611095
>And /h/'s
It's definitely the inverse in this case. I imagine the jays who make lewd threads would much rather receive unwanted pruning/warns and avoid posting explicit lewds than post on /e/ or /h/. Most likely because they have no current reason or desire to regularly visit those boards.

>>23611118
>>23611022
>/a/
>>>/a/202261436
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/202259028/#202261436

>>23612679
So "X thread + >>123backlink" bad, "see this, what do" good

>>23612751
maintaining the illusion that general threads don't exist actually helps prevent them from become the standard

>>23612799
I wouldn't be so butthurt if they actually enforced this for every thread, not only blatant chains and sakura fish threads

>>23612541
Sounds awful, I guess they really did lose the point after the director left.

>>23612821
Fish was fine, but killing the scanlation thread because "muh generals" and leaving up shit like "Thoughts?" and a picture of whatever anime there is a 24/7 thread for alive is annoying. Some things should have generals, some things should not. Enforcement on every board is random and autstic, the mods are literal newfags, and Hiro is asleep at the wheel.

>>23612827
This has nothing to do with KF as a series, it's just the event is annoying even if you don't do it and the rewards aren't worth it since A, the show isn't actually popular, despite all the hype and scandals, and B the outfits are trash both conceptually and texture wise, so they aren't even good to wear in a dressing up game.

The only good thing is that at least it isn't another AFKing event but it's not fun like the F/SN event where you got to summon servants and play a kinda cool board game.

>>23612914
>Hiro is asleep at the wheel
Did he ever care? What it was like right after the admin change?
From the IRC chat with the mods I feel like there's a distance between dedicated not-so-oldfags and the current mods

>>23612928
>the show isn't actually popular
in the west, maybe

>>23612943
He's being trying to make it profitable, hence the 4chan/4channel split. In that sense he cared, but he's never known anything about the site itself or managed it in any way.

>>23612970
So he's basically a businessman more than an administrator

>>23612980
There's no way he's made any appreciable amount of money by buying this site so "businessman" may be a little generous. Moot didn't give a shit either before he left so I won't pretend like things were magically better in the past, but things aren't great now.

>>23612450
What I don't understand is why we have so many, relative new, child boards of /v/ (/vp/, /vg/, /vr/) and other shitposting boards but we can't expand /jp/ or /a/ into more boards.

>>23612961
I'm pretty sure the west is the only one with the crossover though, oddly enough.

>>23611460
yeah lets make threads full of
>mfw x thing
>blocks your path
>be me
>implying
and replies that don't actually have an argument but just strawman the opposing viewpoint just like every other dogshit board on this site

>>23613015
/jp/ is a child board of /a/ and /v/ even if people still don't want to admit this board is mostly rejected weeb games. /vg/ is more a child of /jp/ and took away a lot of its topics. It could probably take every topic that isn't about 3D women or 3D japan.
/a/ has /jp/, /e/, /c/, /cm/, /u/, /y/, /d/, /w/ at the least for anime stuff. /qa/ has been taken over with it too. /s4s/ as well/. What else is there to do with /a/?

>>23613036
He's just saying there's no need to feel sorry for using quotations when they actually serve a purpose though
Your examples are a clear abuse and should be treated as such

>>23613053
im glad /vg/ exists otherwise the retards from the touhou general among others would be shitting up this board instead

>>23596488
I post in quite a few generals and it's been years since I've seen one and even at that it was a pepe or wojak photoshopped into the context of the thread not just someone dumping pink screaming wojaks because they got into a mild disagreement and the typical "board culture" wojaks and pepe shitposting behavior. And even then people call them out and shame them. Since I haven't seen one I years I assume if they get posted they also get deleted

Honestly pepe and wojak should be completely banned outside of r9k like ponies were with mlp

>>23613015
Just a guess but maybe the shipost on /v/ turned discussions into a bump race and so they decided to split it into multiple boards instead of fighting the shitpost back or something?

>>23613053
Yeah but /a/, /jp/ and to an extent /u/ and /y/ have some discussion while the rest are 70 to 90% imagedumps. /jr/ - Japan Random would actually work 100%. See? The numbers don't lie.

>>23613036
>mfw
/jp/ is directly at fault for the propagation of my face when and that feel when, and mostly likely the abbreviations thereof. It was partially created because of feels and ronery threads on /a/. Having threads of that is not only fitting but -actually- old /jp/ like.

>implying
There's nothing wrong with implying. People have been misquoting on 4chan since ever.

>blocks your path
Doesn't need greentext for that

>be me
These are the only types of posts that are/were problematic.

>>23613101
generations of /jp/'s finest shitposters have sufficiently salted the earth to ensure that nothing even remotely resembling japan / random will ever be created on 4chan

the closest thing you'll ever have is /bant/ and it's not close at all

>>23613144
I wonder how many people posting today know that /jp/ is the board originally responsible for importing wojaks to 4chan.

>>23613077
They already have become just shitpost markers, outright banning them would make people shitpost with them more. Probably the only thing that can be done is wait for people to move on to something else. I wish we could institutionalize the people who spend all day making elaborate wojack edits though.

>>23613081
The birth of generals happened in /v/ with LoL/Dota2/sc2 just making threads constantly and spending half of them talking about streamers or personalities. Unlike the generals here on /jp/, they would just instantly make new threads when hitting the bump limit, so a third of the board was active generals and the other 2/3 was dead generals. /vg/ was a way to try and alleviate the situation. /vp/ was to similarly try to get Pokemon discussion out, and /vr/ was to help people talking about less popular subjects actually keep threads going instead of getting flooded out.

This is why I'm thankful at least the Vtuber and idol retards keep using their threads, if they made new threads at the bump limit the board would be unusable.

>>23613161
Probably similar to the number that know pepe is from a comic and rather lanky instead of a fat manlet. I hate seeing some old thread with "feels good man" in it and starting to cringe before remembering it was different times.

>>23613144
/sp/ was responsible for the propagation of mfw, because every thread was low effort "my face when an american was fat near me" shit. The reason it shortened is because the phrase "my face when" was actually filtered and banned by moderation on /sp/ so everyone just used mfw to get around it until moot publicly banned the moderator and let the dogs loose.

>>23613190
Why is /sp/, /sp/ - shitposting anyway? They used to shitpost on /jp/ all the time (/fit/ too sometimes) and aren't they behind "janny" instead of janitor? Although I think only they use the dog image.

>>23613172
I think it's just the threadmakers somewhat reading the atmosphere of the board. DJT doesn't make a new thread until the last one is archived.
>>23613203
/sp/ isn't Shitposting lol, it's Sports. They do a lot of shitposting in their threads but it's still sports related shitposting

>>23613203
Combination of shitpost culture being at its peak around when the board was newly created in 2008-2010 with tripfags attention whoring constantly (not unlike the low effort spam/tripfag blog era of /jp/), sports being a very popular hobby, and the fact that there was a dead zone in active sports in the time between when american sports ended at night and when european sports began. So there was a ton of offtopic mfw tfw shit. Sports lent itself well to making a shitton of new threads if something interesting happened before the rise of generals sitewide (and especially before CAPTCHA) so they were born to spam. Like /jp/, its subsided and nobody wants to use shit boards like /bant/ or /int/.

And yes, moderator complaints molded into janny over the years, especially when they cracked down on the spam threads. They definitely were the ones pushing "doing it for free", as well as things like the Costanza face and Kornheiser's WHY. Same thing with flag complaints like the Canadian leaf since /sp/ got flags for the Olympics some year and they never took them off.

>>23613161
Don't forget /jp/'s biggest sin: ironic shitposting.

>>23613161
Wasn't that /int/? Most of the content from foreign IBs (Polandball, "t.", Spurdo) arrived on 4chan through there.

>>23613498
A lot of it came through /int/ but /jp/ has the honor of being the first to import wojak thanks to some faggot who made a mfw or tfw thread every day or close enough to it. /jp/ used to have a decent amount of crossover with krautchan (ruhe in frieden). More inane /jp/ trivia you'll never need for anything.

>>23612980
>businessman
Technically, yes. This one's real old and kinda shit but it roughly summarizes what type of "business" he does.

>>23613498
Spurdo was in /jp/ a lot too because there are/were a lot of Finnish around or at least they were vocal.

>>23611006
>Incidentally, I dislike lets players and feel vtubers should be a /v/ or /vg/ thing, but in the end I admit moot was right, it is otaku.
Not just moot, two of them showed up on Touhou Station and met ZUN himself and he approved albeit awkwardly because the pirate was completely mentally shutting down in his presence. Which is understandable, I know for a fact I'd probably freeze up too. Apparently it wasn't the first time ZUN mentioned vtubers either but I can't remember the exact context for the first time, but that's about as /jp/ as something can possibly get. It's kinda funny in a weird way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtsHaLTD5nY

>>23588456
Yeah I like it.
Some oldfags bitch and moan, but in the end this is still one of the comfier places on the web.

>>23604985
>1 thread per hour
Damn, I'm proud of you guys /jp/.

>>23613713
Reminds me of https://youtu.be/68_mrcZC1Hs?t=1954

>>23608600
As an idolfag, I appreciate you guys letting us be here as it insulates us from people who aren't explicitly looking for idolshit. Jap idol content gets enough heat when it on rare occasion hits the western mainstream press, we don't need exposure. Please let us stay hidden in your 2hu shaped rainforest.

>>23613904
We are not letting you stay here you idolfags just forced your way in and there is nothing we can do about it.

Vtuber YouTube zoomers are the cancer that's killing /jp/
Hololive threads are just Discord chat at this point.

>>23588456
I would be really pissed about that picture if I hadn't lost it a few months ago in a similarly unexpected and sudden way.
Also no. It's fucking horrible. The fact that /jp/'s only active content is the shitpost centrals known as virtualyoutubers threads (this includes Hololives and Nijisanjis) is too sad. /jp/ deserved better but it was doomed to die the moment moot splitted it from /a/. It was too niche back then, it's still too niche now, specially since Touhou is basically running on fumes.

>>23615105
Rhythm and Kigurumi threads are more of discord chats with discord drama.

What is a 4chan thread but a chat anyway? Faster than forum threads, and disappear after a time.

>>23615227
Speaking of the rhythm general, what the fuck happened the other day? I saw something that looked almost like a bot constantly bumping it, but it was a person.

>>23613849
Based fellow 3D idols Chad.

>>23615272
Probably that guy who tried to shitpost the thread into oblivion for some reason and then make a new one. Check out the trash cans in the last thread
>>/jp/thread/S23394806
after that, they tried making a new thread >>/jp/thread/S23449197
Looking at the current one, it seems to be the same >>/jp/thread/S23495004

This shit is why our janitors go insane and quit or become unresponsive or delete literally every thread on the board.

It's not like the normal posts are better though. They won't shut the fuck up about trannies and namedropping people.

>>23593417
>i loved 2010-2012 /jp/
I miss it. I know that it was cancerous and ruined the board and now we just have generals as a result and no culture, but it was a lot of fun outside of the really negative self-pitying threads which I'm guilty of participating in too. There wasn't any other place like it, but that sort of stuff ended up being exported everywhere so it doesn't feel special anymore. I don't really want those days to come back but I miss them

>>23613524
>/jp/ used to have a decent amount of crossover with krautchan
still crossboarding neokc, /jp/ and old kc were a very cosy duo.

I thought meido autosage us because we are already on page 6 but Sally is going absolutely nuclear out there because of these threads, wow.

>>/jp/thread/23612944#p23613507
>>/jp/thread/23613956#p23614010
>>23615397

1

+5

x8

>>23616073
anyone that obsessed with "trannies" and "discord" to the point of mentioning them in every post has a legitimate mental illness

>>23616658
Or they're trolls who intentionally invoke it to get a rise from others.
Pretty sure that's not the case for this guy, though.

>>23616658
That's modern 4chan as a whole for you, malicious autism instead of autism fueling hobbies.

>>23616073
>>23616701
the real tragedy of sallyfag is that beneath his hundreds of bans and thousands of shitposts he's just another supreme autist terminally buttranged that his favorite character can't have individual threads.

every time /jp/ loses one of these autistic crusaders it finds a new one. we will never be free.

>>23616777
This guys seems to be more active and butthurt than Barneyfag which is on par with Herculean task. Seriously what fuels such autism.

>>23616897
>Seriously what fuels such autism.
I got slapped with a "Racism" warning and got my posts deleted for mentioning the reason. You can check the archives.

>>23616966
If you're referring to the posts about Southeast Asia, this guy's idiosyncratic behavior goes way beyond being explained away by regional culture.

I don't think you're going to get a better explanation beyond him engaging in a crusade over being slighted by moderation and other anons out of a sense of justice/vengeance for not getting the threads and reception he desires. If he doesn't say anything himself, it's just hearsay.

>>23617168
He's just an schizo autist and probably Wizardry spammer. (a guy who spammed up the MMO threads because no one wanted to play Wizardry Online with him due to it having a realistic art style instead of moe anime. He'd complain about how it was Japanese and other popular MMOs were Korean and would make threads saying only FF14 and Wizardry were allowed and generally being a shit until MMOs were banned altogether for a while)

People like that happen every once in a while. There was a light novel magazine called Noctournes someone wanted to start, but one of the rejected authors got so butthurt that they started spamming the thread over and over and over such that the OP image is still the 4th most reposted image even though he stopped spamming back in 2013.
>>/jp/reports/image-reposts
https://archived.moe/jp/statistics/image-reposts/

>"waaa waaa waaaaa" the Thread

This thread is filled with autistic whiners, it's as if all the shitposters were contained in one thread. Mods just should permaban everyone here to stop them from shitting up the site

>>23611460
Misquote/stutter-quotes were the original wojak.

>>23613053
>/a/ has /jp/, /e/, /c/, /cm/, /u/, /y/, /d/, /w/ at the least for anime stuff. /qa/ has been taken over with it too
Nah, /qa/ got nuked by staff in a way reminiscent of /jp/ in the old days. You really don't want to see what it looks like now that it's strictly moderated to keep out /jp/-adjacent content.

>>23617322
Glad I can take you all with me

>>23613161
I always find it funny when people think /jp/ has some sort of invisible wall around it that prevents it from doing what other boards are doing. /jp/ even had doge posting. I still have random dog images from 2013 saved.

>>23617322