/jp/ - Otaku Culture

reminder to always eat irl anons!

>>23423216
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO

Which God is best for the long run? As a warrior I really like lulwy for the speed and Kumiromi for stamina regen. Do the other gods have good benefits? I tried switching once but that hex you get for it is nuts.

>>23426559
I'm partial to Jure, her special action saved me a lot of time.
Itzpalt is really cozy if you use magic intensively though.
And Kumiromi is really giving quality of life.
As you mentioned, Lulwy's speed is really nice.
...

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Here you go.

>>23426559
Mani gives +20% damage.

New player here. I am going straight to try the loss mode difficulty, and SOLO it! Yes, I am tough. Wish me luck, lads. I hope this is a possible task to achieve.

>>23427909
YOLO

Literally.

>>23427909
But are you a snail tourist?

>>23427947
Yes. if you do not hear from me afterward, then do not deprive me of the dignity of the absent's funeral.


>>23428156
I am way too frail to withstand this level of handicap.

Played the game as a Warmage a while back, now I wanna do a different build
What's the best way to make a walking juggernaut melee character? I wanna get punched in the face and not even care

Is it best to get ALL of a god's treasures before switching to another?
I went with Opatos as my first but I'm really only interested in the pet for great carrying capacity and not the rest.

>>23428658
Not all of them, no. Generally though, you want at least the second reward. Most of them are useful no matter what you're playing. Opatos' especially, since it's free damage reduction.

>>23430145
>-1 damage
>useful

I ALWAYS nuke my home at the start and steal that sweet ether dagger for my pet

>>23432017
Never done that myself. I did nuke Palmia once, though. I remember I worked out exactly how many Little Sisters I'd be able to get from full karma for each alignment without guards turning hostile. It's been awhile, but I think it was something like 16 for "good", 17 for "neutral", and 18 for "evil".

How rare is spellbook of healing rain? I made healer blood stream chara and finished all my early game prep, invested in couple magic vendors 100 each and was walking from one to another for like hour without any results.

>>23436515
Pretty rare. If you want to find the spell books switch to yacatect and run dungeons, highest level you can get away with.

You'll be drowning in spellbooks.

>>23436515
I think the name of the book isn't "healing rain" so you might have missed it.

>>23437626
Well, I was going to hit dungeons to get some ink for recruiting pets anyway so that works. Thanks.

>>23437729
Are you sure? Wiki lists it as healing rain.

Is it even possible to hit 9999 in omake ?
I guess it's possible with bonus points and Ehekatl's miracle, but natty i don't think so.

>>23439181
Maybe thinking of holy rain/vanquish hex?
Healing rain is definitely the rarest book, though. Took me forever to find a copy.

why the fuck my cupid of love got 0 breeding power? I need something better than an eastern bed already

>>23446735
Just spam join low level towers, theres tons of cupids there

>>23445610
>natty
That made me laugh.

Did some time of farming dungeons with yaca. Went to train, checked magic vendor for salt solution, potential etc and finally found book of healing rain. Thank god it was so fast and not after days of grinding.

It seems abit lame that you can permanently lose the fairy/lich elemental resistances via dreams

>>23451140
ELEA RULZ
SUCK ON MY CHEAP BLOODSPELLS, SUCKER

>>23451344
you mean the free etherwind resist? who the fuck cares about that magic overcast bonus

>>23451443
The resist ain’t even good mid to late game. You’ll still turn into an abomination when enemies gaze at, fuckin Elea mages constantly mutating me mid dungeon run. Are any race bonuses good mid to late game?

>>23423072
Anyone here still played vanilla?

>>23451933
I did until learning of omake.
Which is vanilla+, unlike plus that is more like an overhaul.

>>23451344
>>23451140
>Race traitors who are not proud of their human origins
Heresy

>>23452902
>elea
>not Homo Superior
MORE HUMAN THAN YOU'LL EVER BE, YERLES SUBHUMAN

I agree though, we should focus on exterminating the non-humans before starting the race war.

>>23452912
What about Juere , should we trust them or not ?

So I'm level 15, have a putit ranch, have 25 gardening, and have 250k saved up. How do I get that juicy potential for my stats? My little sister waifu cooks for me every morning so that's nice but it's just not enough. Is this the point in the game where I start a farm or start investing in magic vendors for potential potions? I've never actually gotten this far in elona before.

>>23457544
Get a happy bed, start a herb farm, start working on herbed-in foods and picnic baskets (assuming E+). Investing is more of a long-term thing which you should be working on but I don't think the pots will come in frequently enough. Disclaimer: I've never gone past the point you're at either.

>>23457544
You only need to invest like 50 or 100 into each vendor to get comfortable amount of potential pots. Make sure you have 400% potential in investing before doing it.

And never use unblessed pots of potential.

>>23457750
Investing is a mid-term goal and you should already be doing it at that point in the game.

Is there any way i can download or extract the Plus title screen song? or if its in any of the music mods

>>23461015
All the music is in the sound folder as .mid files. I think there's a youtube playlist of them too, somewhere.

Tracks: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Custom_music

You hate t-- you love to see it.

I wanted to play a singing wizard of oomsest.
Short story short, i can get the singing feat if i'm not an idol.
But idols can't get the wizards feats, more spell potential regen/chance to maximise dices.

Would changing my lcass at the guildmasters let me get the feats, than change back to wizard ?
Would i lose the singing feats when switching out of idol, for example ?

>>23463985
Wait, i'm dumb, the obvious answer is "won't lose feats, but will ose the singing special action making the feats useless".
So it implies than it'd be best to get the wizard feats and then switching to idol.

Ah shit fuck that noise i'll just stay a wizard forever.

>>23464001
Scratch that, i tried starting as juere who have the performer skill, and all classes get the idol feat.
And it's the feat that gives the special action, not the class.

Neato.

How can I deal with this damned little demon: The grass dancer?

>>23465212
Poison/cut damage.

>>23465281
Using his own speed against him. Wew. how ironic. Thanks for the tip, Anon-kun.

Does anyone who isn't a Golem use Riding?

>>23423072
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:31993
1.98 was updated to 1.98R.

>>23470563
Snails?

So the only way to get stronger in OOMSEST is by abusing exploits or something? the grinding pace is so slow compared to plus,plat barely raises skill points and the cost increases way too fast

i get that your stats are uncapped after getting a certain title,but i feel like it will be months before i reach that point unless i am missing something

>>23471465
It's slow just like vanilla. It was like that in Plus too before Ano decided change things related to platinum and potential.

Why is grinding magic ink so painful early on.

Is it normal to launch 5+ darts per use in oomsest ?
I'm following Itzpalt which gives me multi-dart, but that kinda silly.
My maximum in one use was 7 darts, it really feels like a bug...

The downside is it targets even friendlies when you kil your target, can't safely kill bards in town without killing randoms.

Just downloaded the game with custom and customg, how do I fix this? This is the max default resolution in full screen

>>23477393
Isn't there an ini file or something you can edit? There's some restriction on it I don't remember though, like the values need to be evenly divisible by something.

>>23477393
>>23477688
There's a hard limit on the vertical size of the display, and a soft limit a little below that which causes a graphical bug with the text log if exceeded.
Additionally, to avoid a graphical bug where the rightmost column and topmost row of tiles are drawn partially offscreen, the horizontal resolution must be a multiple of 48, and the vertical resolution must be a multiple of 48 plus 88 (to accommodate the message log).
I highly recommend 1440*808, it's the highest resolution which is close to 16:9 and doesn't cause graphical issues.
You'll have to work out how to add nonstandard resolutions in your GPU settings to play it in fullscreen, though.

Is it just me or is new healing rain animation bugged? It feels like theres too big delay between 1st frame and next and also animation plays somewhere in air randomly in direction my character is looking.

>>23478445
Tried that resolution but still nothing changes

>>23476143
Training magic IRL is even more difficult
>No virgins to sacrifice
>No supplies
>90 % of mages are just scammers
>The rest are usually crazy or cult leaders.

Is oomsest just not as popular as elona+? I started with elona+ and then switched to oomsest and have to say I'm liking oomsest a lot more. It's a more interesting adventure and I like the design choices more.

>>23480077
Different strokes for different folks. Personally, Itzpalt's Sculpture has spoiled me. I can't imagine playing without it.

>>23479582
I'm a wizard.

>>23480077
Elona+ has twice as many characters on the sprite sheet than oomsest does. More characters is more fun.

>>23480077
Plus has been around for much longer than translated Omake has.

>>23481361
I'm proud of you anon.

>>23481752
>more characters equals more fun
not really

Someone once said there is a combination of settings that makes fishing go really fast,could someone post it?

>>23482119
In plus you'd need a fishing lure, in oomsest there's a toggle somewhere in the ex settings to turn the animation off, yeah.

>>23478674
Do you mean it's not fullscreening properly, like in >>23477393 that image?
That's what happens when the game runs at a resolution your graphics card doesn't support.
You can add custom resolutions in your GPU settings, but the exact procedure depends on whether you use and AMD or NVIDIA graphics card.

Would wells dry up in the real zone if I drank from them in the panic quest zone?

>>23483778
I don't exactly know but I still get the same problem even with the resolution of my actual screen.

>>23486026
1920*1080? Elona plus won't display vertical resolutions above 868, if you try to run it at 1920*1080 it'll look like this.
If you want to be able to fullscreen properly, you'll have to use a lower resolution. If you specify a wonky resolution like 1440*808 it needs to be added as a custom resolution in your graphics card settings.

>used up almost all my magic stock, 2-3 uses of lightning bolt max
>had to surrender to the bandits, lost most gold
>don't have enough to buy the spellbooks available, too difficult anyway
>remember that devouring a wizard gives some stocks
Let's try that. Maybe it'll give me enough stocks to cast a dozens offensive spells, and finish one hunting quest.
>devour an elean wizard in a dungeon
... 500 short teleport, 700 magic dart, 800 nerve dart stocks. In one devour.

>>23486106
>>23486106
Wait, my first thought was that it gave a random amount of of stocks of a random weak spell, but https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Wizard_of_Elea lists just these spells, short teleport, magic and nerve dart.
It implies... That...

... Aww, all NPCs using meteor are plus exclusive. Bummer.

>Also if the target eaten is a magic user, in comparison to reading a spellbook 10 times of the stock will be gained.
Wow, since i have fuck all in memorisation, it can only mean it uses current stock amount to calculate said 10 times. If i had even 1 stock in those spells, i'd probably only have gotten 200-300.
Welp, i guess there's no hurry to enter the mages' guild, time to spellunk !

>>23486162
Wait wait, does it used memorisation ?
Like, if i had 900 memorisatin, i'd have gotten ten times what i got ?

Waited couple months without playing arena to lower difficulty. Ask guy in palmia to get me into duel, he says level 3, seems good enough. Get in, Im fighting against mitra which level 26.

>>23487533
Are you playing one of the newer plus' ? If so, ano re-balanced arenas based on win-streaks.

>>23488435
The rumble/group fights display the enemy levels properly, isn't it just a bug?

I swear i'm prostituing myself only for the title.
I'm not enjoying it.

>>23489683
don't worry anon , we're here to help you on your way to become the god of sluts

>>23490489
Rather I'd choose laboriously to bear
A weight of woes, and breathe the vital air
A slave to some poor hind that toils for bread
Than reign the sceptered monarch of the dead.

>>23485689
No.

>>23489683
Its a pretty busted way to make money early to me,i just pick fairy+prostiture and all whore feats for an easy 5k per fuck

are any of the crafting skills useful in OOMSEST? talking about alchemy,tailoring and all that,at least plus had the artifact fusion to make some use of them

>Hm, what if I make a character based around Magic Device?
>Figure I'll roll perform too cause pianist has magic device
>The actual bitch and a half to start cause of no killing power and bad DOOTing skills.

That said, I've learned some things. I will never not buy a horse from Yowyn ASAP from now on. So it can kick my enemies to death with impunity while I pretend to matter in this equation of killing. Wands are bullshit when you can afford to buy as many as you want thanks to perform. Completing quests I shouldn't be able to yet is funny.

In oomsest, when is the spell potential bonus feat kicking in ?
I have the three levels, and there's no difference when i get spell stock, i.e. % potential each time.

Is that feat a meme and i screwed myself of 3 feats ?

>>23497830
*２％　Potential

>>23489045
It's a bug, but it's a display bug not a level bug.

>>23495658
You'll need some alchemy for puff puff bread early on, and later on you can craft descent potions if you want to gain infinite stats.

Otherwise, tailoring lets you make gear.

>>23489683
whatever makes you sleep better anon,just remember to have safe sex!

Can you buy bbq sets or is stealing only option?

>all characters must have cooking and gardening else your stats won't progress
lame,i want to rip and tear not eat veggies

>>23500853
Devour giving stat potential would be pretty kino.
Maybe have eating hearts reduce drowsiness.
Using bonus points to keep skill potential up.

No need to stop fighting for even an instant, except when eating the innards of your victi- enemies.
An eternal rampage into the void.
The doomguy experience.

Anyone have neat designs for houses, shops, or museums? I tend to just dig out the whole place then put things in separate corners.

Can pets 1v1 Death Ehekatl in OOMSest? considering custom AI doesn't exist there and less broken pets to pick from

>>23501376
Holes in dirt.
Strike the earth !

>>23423072
I think I don't understand how stats and skills work.
Is it supposed to be that you need to raise the potentials of stats and skills by performing actions, sleeping, and eating properly cooked food in order to maximize point gain before leveling up?

>>23501662
more potential = faster you gain exp to raise something
raise potential by sleep , eating or spending platinum

>>23501703
Thanks.

It's hard being a ho.


Is AIDS lowering the frequency of hp/mp regen ticks, so bad for training healing and meditation, or reducing the amount regenerated per tick, making it something you'd actually want on at all time ?

>>23502107
Mmh, meditation trained during a turn when no mp was regenerated.
Guess that's great for training.
Crippling, and not fun, but great for training.

>>23500766
I've seen them in stores a time or two, but it's pretty rare.

>>23502107
tell me you did palmia nuke quest first you slut

>>23499316
Raw is better and gives better stats.

>>23501376
https://files.catbox.moe/stbtq7.png

I'm trying to make a Recipe of Sex change, which requires a "mutation." Seeing as how it's not accepting a potion of mutation, do I need to find a spellbook or scroll or mutation? Where can I even find one of those?

>>23505070
Book, and it's rare. I think I find them mostly in dungeons.

>>23505135
Damn, alright. I'll probably find it raiding dungeons for stuff to sell.

What's the best way to play a fairy?
although I think it would be funny to play a prostitute

>>23505420
Prostitute,at least thats what i do because the speed bonus is nice early and i literally dont carry any inventory with me because i expect to die 24/7 and invest every penny on shops once i am done fucking a town dry

>>23505609
Jeez, anon, at least save the items.

>>23505637
. . .what items? pets will do all the combat once i charm a bell or two

>>23505644
Then make sure to savor that perfectly broiled nuke-cooked api nut.

>Want to get back into Elona+
>Custom still hasn't been updated so I just try vanilla
>No more custom AI means my pets are basically all just unga bunga retards rather than the carefully crafted team I made
>Have to deal with fetish piss mechanics

I don't know what to do

>>23505801
just play the last custom,i dont think any of the recent changes are life altering

>>23500853
>all characters must have cooking and gardening else your stats won't progress
...Fuck.

Well guess I should start training.

what the hell do I do in this game? I'm level 6 and I've just been wandering around like I'm in a fever dream.

>>23508397
Conquer Lesimas !
I believe in you, Anon !

>>23508397
Buy a ranch and put little girls in it, I dunno. Whatever you want man.

>>23497830
Only the first feat is worth it, the second and third brings negligible benefits.

>>23508397
acquire skills
acquire potential
acquire equipment
kill everything

Does the downstairs generate with its own items storage capacity when used or does it share the same capacity with the main floor?

>>23508397
As long as your stats are going up you're doing something right. Or getting richer, or any sort of progress really.
Try to find your own goals. Maybe start by trying to get a full set of equipment for you and your pet so you don't die to a weak breeze, or maybe try collecting money so you can start a shop, or maybe collect platinum so you can learn new skills that interest you, etc.

>>23512374
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Furniture#Upstairs_and_downstairs
>New floors will have separate item limits from the ground floor (i.e. the floor that comes with the house); therefore, if you have two floors in your small castle, you can store 800 items (400 on each floor).
>Also if you create a floor under a home type, it will be preserved in that state for new homes -- adding a basement to your cave sets the screen dimensions and item limit of that basement to cave levels, even if you upgrade the home later.

does elona+ custom G have the custom pet ai ? I've downloaded the easyinstall but I can't customize my pet ai.

>>23514091
What's going wrong, exactly? Is the AI option not showing up in the talk menu?

>>23514121
yes

>>23514162
works on my machine

>start as a wizard
>run out of spell stocks real fast due to multidart
>cant buy books because i am dirt poor
fuck this i am back to being a pet master and letting them do all the heavy lifting while i farm and cook

>>23514091
copy your save somewhere and reinstall your game
download elona+
download elona+ custom and unpack/overwrite in elona folder
download elona+ customer g and unpack/overwrite in elona folder
in that order
launch game with elonacg.exe

>>23423072
Just found out about this game from Sseth. Want to get into it, any advice Elonachads?
Such as good mods or things not to do at start

Tell me how to run a successful shop. I'm saving up for a deed.

>>23516078
Choose the little girl as the starting pet.
Use all your bonus points on the weapon type you wish to use, and wield a shield.
Enjoy the learning curve.

any way to easily find a bell early? i am carrying a rod of domination and dont want to risk it dropping dead on the puppy cave

>>23516366
Make sure you have a pet who has the negotiation skill and not horrible charisma. Thieves/Bandits/Rogues from the slave dealer can work well for cheap.
Equip your storekeeper with items that boost negotiation and/or charisma. (Engagement jewelry and tight boots are an easy way to get this)
Use the counter to design your shop so it isn't incredibly small, try buying more item space if it's available
Learn what items have a decent sell value and put them in your store (If you don't have something that tells you sale values, you can get an idea by seeing what prices vendors offer you).
Keep your store as a general store (If you're playing a version that has that option) to start off with. You can specialize once you're certain you can keep up a lot of stock of a certain kind.
Try to make sure your store always has a few items for sale.

>>23516951
>I've been sacrificing all spare jewelry to my god this whole time

Uh oh.

>>23514063
Nice! Thank you, Anon.

>>23516078
Read the fucking OP.

>>23516078
The most fun I've ever had in this game was with my first character, playing blind, and absolutely ruining the character due to multiple fun mistakes.

I'm not saying you have to play blind, but it makes the game more fun if it can stir your imagination.

Also, your first character will most likely be ruined while you learn, happens to everyone, just start a new one when you feel like you want to play properly after learning to handle the game.

>>23522966
Sounds fun!

>>23522966
Why is the Elona discord so pozzed? "no transphobia" lfmao

>>23523119
discord is namefag hell
you should already know this

>>23523261
Yeah you're right. This general is much more chill, love you anon bros

Do OO classes have hidden passive feats?

>>23451599
>>23451443
Bloodcasting bonus is a great QoL for training magic capacity.

>>23516078
It's not a game for people to beat, it's a game for people to hit their head against for hours.

>>23524674
Yeah IK, I don't want to beat it anyway. I wanna have fun

>>23515626
Don't do this. Once you get used to the custom/G crutches you won't be able to let go of them and those branches are dead unlike plus.

>>23523119
Really? That's terrible.

>>23524926
Yeah, they list all of the isms AND phobias

>>23524945
Must be a reddit thing.

>>23524692
I'm using the elona+ custom one in the general faq, is that ok?

>>23524692
>crutches
You mean the only things that make plus worth playing over omake variants?

How can I make walls not do this?

>>23525043
He means pet AI and G's "un-nerfs".

Doesn't oomsest already have some custom AI controls? I can just tell my wizard to cast at range, or 1 square away, or almost never walk (so they attack instead).

>>23525394
Didn't the guy port Custom to it either way?

Do pet skills actually do something in oomsest? Pet pickpocketing in plus is so fucking good.

>>23525653
pets can pickpocket?

>>23525862
In plu they use the skill to steal gold when they kill things which they can then train potentials in town with. It makes raising a pet long-term actually feasible.

>>23526400
cant they just,you know,pick the money from the floor?

>>23526718
You can't drop your own money and finding relevant amounts of gold/ores for multiple pets is a huge pain in the ass.

I love how you have to deal with all your actions. No rollback cause you died or fucked up

>>23528676
*savescums*

>>23525542
I don't think so. He's still trying to figure out how to get it to compile, since Plus/Custom uses HSP 3.4, Omake uses HSP 3.5, and there's version incompatibilities or something. He's been trying to fix it for months now. It's what's holding him up from maintaining Custom.

N-i-c-e,i tend to have this bad luck where non-wizard characters obtain broken spells while wizard characters get shit,glad this wasn't the case

>>23526718
The skill doesn't just put gold in their pocket, it generates EXTRA gold out of nowhere whenever they kill stuff. Not only that but it's a huge amount. I'm pretty sure my pets are generating hundreds of thousands of gold just from a few minutes in the void, which is more than I would ever see normally.

>>23531527
Faggot.
I didn't even know you could tho

>>23534583
You shouldn't, but keep a copy of your save folder but save file corruption ain't impossible.
As in, expect it once every one thousand hours.

>>23534610
oh-

God favor skill bonus goes only to pc, right? Or do pets also get affected?
Ive been wondering if Yaca or Jure with high favor would be better for making money early/mid game since Im getting close to 200 cooking for better profits.
Im mostly playing as healer with ocasional debufs and blood stream for high hp mobs so my pets do most killing.

>take gene engineer quest
>die on wilderness and lose all the monster balls
Fuck
>Pet arena
>Enemy curses the fuck out of my pet equip and its a pain in the ass to remove curses in OOMSEST
FUCK YOU

>>23537660
What's OOMSEST?
I'm new to this game

>>23537816
another version of elona

>>23537825
I assumed as much, what's different about it anon?

Should I just give up if my pet dies early on?

>>23537974
Resurrection is a thing, you know.

>>23538006
....oh

>>23537974
The only true way of making your save file unplayable is summoning a inner god on your tiny home and ending stuck on a death-respawn loop or something

>>23538116
So I should keep trucking on?

>>23538124
Your pet will die many more times.

>>23538222
How do i ressurect them?

>>23538230
Bartender.

>>23538239
Thanks anon!

I savescum and none of you can stop me.

>>23538328
Go for it anon, we're always cheering for you and your ill-gotten rewards!

>>23532479
He did port custom to OO, but it also has some bugs he can't stamp out. So, it's mostly complete.

He just hasn't gotten around to plus yet, that's a separate free-time related issue.

>>23539607
Maybe he died from the curse of Bloodyshade.

>>23538239
ONLY 15 FUCKING GOLD????

>>23539888
Your pet is so weak that literal shit is more expensive.

errrrr?

>>23539620
Nah, he just posts on the discord.

>>23541084
gay

Is 'plus' the most purist experience? no custom or customg or OOMSEST nothing like that

>>23544417
in that case vanilla elona is the most purist

Got mayu sibayu pet but sometimes dies with "mayu sibyu explode with 0". Is it her own self destruct or is it something else procing it? I checked wiki and theres no info on that.

How strong is Death Ehekatl? just to have an idea on her power level stat wise compared to plus inner gods cap of 2000

>>23544417
Most people will agree, oomsest is the purest modern version of the game you'll get. Otherwise you're basically looking at vanilla elona.

>>23546765
Different anon but what exactly is OOMSEST?
I know it's another version but what's different between that and Elona+ custom?

>>23546821
No Act2 or 3 yet greatly expands the base game itself,a quick Google search will bring answers

tfw game catters to your belly stuffing fetish

>>23423072

THERE'S AN ELONA THREAD ON HERE?

THE WHOLE TIME?

and I didn't KNNOOOOOWWW?

My goddess cant be this useless!

How do I retain interest in a character once I'm past the "can't kill for shit" stage of things? I just make a new character every time it's not a struggle just to survive.

>>23550158
Same. Each time every game I keep grinding cooking and gardening which makes my skill potential percentage go down..

>>23535150
>God favor skill bonus goes only to pc, right?
Correct.

>>23544771
>I checked the wiki and theres no info on that
Engage brain.

>>23550158
>every time it's not a struggle just to survive
If you're at the point where you're not in danger of dying, you've either won the game, or are not trying hard enough dungeons.

>>23550718
Is this all there is in life? Harder and harder dungeons?

Is there a point in dual wielding over even just using a single weapon? The penalties seem harsh.

>>23546724
Her base stats start off as strong as the inner gods, since ehe was the first inner god. They scale past that based on how far into the void you summon her at, but they're still capped at 2000.

However, her real danger is her skills, buffs, and debuffs. She can attack at pretty much any range for melee, she has jure's negative healing spell that ignores resistance and damage null, she has opatos shell that lowers damage by 90% or more, etc.

Each of these also scales with how far into the void you are, capped at floor 10k. There she'll take almost no damage, have 100,000 speed (lulwy's super trick), can set your health to 7% whenever she wants (mani's delete) and can seal your buffs and armor enchants disabling them completely.

You can block the last 2 with holy veil, but it doesn't much matter. With 100,000 speed, if she gets even a single turn she can set your hp to 7% then finish you with decap, even if you have 100% damage null.

However... she is not immune to status effects, so it's possible to stun lock her. Then, it's a matter of wailing on her for a point of damage at a time, and hope she never gets a turn.

>>23552529
As someone who's never gotten beyond level 25 this shit sounds absolutely insane. There's no actual reliable way of beating something like that, right?

>>23550158
Go into the void.
And cry like the little bitch you are.
You'll love it, painslut.

>>23551618
Yes. You still want to use light weapons, but leveling dual wielding enough effectively cancels the natural hit penalty you get on your second/third/nth hand. It's obviously more geared toward mutants with silly numbers of hand slots.

Any advices on every god-given companion? Spend the whole week to get all the gods in my house with all their rewards and now I'm struggling with the management. I've also got almost all precious items and a fuckton of items with different top-tier attributes.

>>23554264
>keeping eight different pets at once
absolute madman

>>23552583

There are 3 ways to reliably beat her, but they all come down to brute force grind.

The way speed works in elona, 10k speed is the speed the world moves at, so if you go faster than that you get extra turns. This acts as a kinda time stop effect, so if you have 100k speed, you'll move 10 times before the world updates. Even other npcs with that much speed will be stuck waiting on the world to update. So, with enough speed she'll just never get a move. Speed caps at 2 billion, so if you reach that, you get 200,000 turns before she can move.

Timestop also scales without cap up to ridiculous amounts. With 200k+ turns of timestop you can achieve the same effect at much lower speeds.

Finally, ehe doesn't gain any extra life and her base attributes are still only 2k, so she's stuck with only a few million hp. With enough leveling you can get violence (also uncapped) to give millions of bonus damage, as well as +1000 weapons, and simply one-shot her.

>Okay first i need a pet
>Then gene engineer to make it stronger
>Then fishing or gardening for reliable food source
>Then negotiation/investing for a shop to make money or vendors will rip me off
>Then some crafting skill else i wont get materials from ponds
>AND THEN i can finally start working on my own weapon skills
>Also remember to level that blacksmith hammer so infinite
>Also your plat costs are stupid hight so good luck grinding away in town boards

>>23555258
Correct me if i am wrong but to summon her do i need to kill all the gods (Except inari of fortune) and then wish for 'death' correct?

>>23546821
Elona+ adds act 2 and 3 (fanmade) and some other content, custom is almost the same thing except with more translations. oomsest adds their own version of an act 2 (also fanmade) and some other content. Elona+ and oomsest branched off way early from vanilla elona (v1.22), so they have few similarities beyond vanilla. They both have different visions for how the game should work, elona+ has this large balance change (for better or worse) that happens in act 2 and is needed for the rest of the game, oomsest has no such thing (so it feels more like vanilla throughout).

https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Elona_variants

>>23555258
That's crazy. This game is crazy.
I thought I already knew Elona was crazy but it's crazier than I thought. Crazy.
Thank you for indulging me.

>>23555566
Oomsest has act2? i just seemed south tyris way incomplete

>>23555412
Very meta. Would that even count as playing the game?

>>23555566
odd

So to raise performance i need to play in front of a crowd,yet the crowd instantly stones me to death,whats the catch here?

How much control magic is needed for my pet to not kill me and other pets with 3-4k damage attack?

>>23558584
## performance equips (2 or 3) and in some Party Time! quests there are isolated alcoves of only old people and beggars that are safe to play to.
Another method is to find the mansion of little sister and summon monsters near the little sister NPC, she can then summon a bunch of lvl 1s to play to.
I don't know if you can play to a ranch of lvl 1 putits and get exp.

>>23558762
so a ranch it is,thanks!

>>23558755
if ( caster_control_magic * 5 + target_control_magic > rnd(dmg + 1) ) {
dmg = 0
}
else {
dmg = rnd(dmg * 100 / (100 + caster_control_magic * 10 + target_control_magic * 2) + 1)
}

>>23559539
Well, thats quite a lot needed for 100% to never hit.

This game is so fun

>>23559620
Yes, but if caster and target are at 75, you'll AT MOST be hit 10% of the original damage. If both are at ~850 you'll AT MOST be hit 1% of the original damage, which I'd say is not bad.

>>23555258
That would take a lifetime to get to in Plus. Wasn't Omake slower to get stronger in?

>>23457827
Is there a way to bless them though? I have like 150+ common potions of potential and don't know what to do with all of them.

>>23559680
I dont have problem with my wizards because I grabbed Bysymlha as pet really early on and gave her bow that invokes breath so everyone was training control pretty well with so many aoes from her. Then I also added Abyss Princess to party for more aoe and she never hits anyone from party.

My plan was to make take performaid crew with me and just got bloodress. Shes been performing really well for most part but whenever she uses her bound in blood she starts spamming blood stream which kills any melee from my party that happens to be between her and target. Even my absolute defender.

Also since Im on bound in blood and blood stream topic how does exactly "dimish bleeding" work since I though about giving her couple of items with it so I dont have to heal her that often.

>>23559740
Get water, bless it by 'd'ropping at your god's altar, 'B'ix it with the potions' stack.

>>23559808
Can 1 blessed water bless an entire stack of something?

>>23559886
Yeah, 1 is enough for stack

>>23559886
Yes.

>>23559899
>>23559906
Excellent! Water isn't too hard to make.
Oh man I can bless so many things now. Thank you for the advice.

>>23559932
You find a lot water just by doing dungeons if you check all pots of this color on ground, I have huge stock of rods of fire wall and salt solution collecting dust because I never run out bottles of water found on floor.

Tell me the best way to make a throwing build. Starting from the ground up. I wanna throw rocks at niggas. Big ass rocks.

>>23560058
Equip best big ass rock you find.
Throw them at anything that moves.
Thats all about playing throwing build.

Eventualy get pets that buff you or tank for you.

>>23560058
Get some really heavy monsters and put them in a ranch, then pick up their 100.0s shit and throw it at enemies for massive damage.

>>23559806
>how does exactly "dimish bleeding" work
Recover from bleeding x4 faster. Since Blood Stream's damage is based partly on how much you're bleeding, it may or may not be a good idea to put it on her.

Does anyone have any technical questions about E+? I feel like looking through the source for a bit.

>>23560796
That would be actualy good, since I dont care much about her blood streams, would love to be able to disable it completly, but Im playing newest version, so no custom AI. Just her shadow steps with insult is good enough.

>>23560058
I wonder what some feats do on omake,the wiki just have the in game description and no actual numbers of what they do like the throwing,whore and bow feats

>>23560867
What's the cap on level and speed? Can it be increased/removed easily without breaking anything?

>>23561583
>speed cap
All attributes (str, dex, life, mana, speed etc) soft cap at 2000. This is set in the skillmod function.
Most bonuses, like Lulwy's Trick, do a simple multiplication or addition without putting in a limit.
The speed feats, speed mutations, and ether mutations affecting speed have a hard cap of 9999, and you'd have to change that for each of them individually.
>level cap
Doesn't seem to be one. When you get enough experience, level just gets incremented. I'd be interested in seeing someone use Elosnack to try to overflow the level integer.

>>23558762
I thought summons didnt't give you exp

Well, I had enough of this "hide and seek" game; therefore, is there a skill that could lure all enemies towards me? Except for the one that Fishing skill gives at level 30. And while we're in it, what AoE skill can be used for a melee-oriented class — to wipe the pulled enemies fast?

>>23564981
Swarm hits on a square around you i think,and you could have a pet that pulls enemies such as a maneki

>>23564981
I was just gonna have a look in the code but I can't find the old program I used to use for that anymore, now all links lead to some other, shittier one that doesn't work

>>23555440
Yep, you get the ragnarok title from killing the original pantheon, which when enabled lets you summon "death" ehekatle by wishing for death. You don't need to be in the void either, she just gets boosted there, as do all the other gods.

>>23555714
It doesn't. They were working on it, but the last dev quit right before the alpha version was to be released. Such is life. Most of the design and art is finished though, so it's not impossible someone will finish it someday.

>>23558584
>>23558762

You don't need to practice in front of a crowd, you can play solo at home. You just get an xp bonus for impressing people with your performance once or twice, before they get bored of you.

>>23559729

Normal progression is slower, but the power gaming is tons faster. You can get millions of levels/stats/+1 hammer in 100-300 hrs if you grind the right way. The pastebins should have a basic summary of power gaming tricks.

Having said that, getting into the billions is still gonna take forever, with most of the grind being leveling up the hammer to +50 or so. Going much past a +1 hammer is likely to require scripting too, though it's not impossible to do it manually.

>>23560058
Plus has a "thrown rocks do more damage" enchantment, but I think it only applies to regular rocks, not huge rocks. Not sure.

>>23564981
Dancing Wire, but it only works on one enemy.

Is it possible to make pets eat food I give them later on? Whenever I give them something they eat it instantly but then dont eat anything else from their inventory afterwards. So they will sit with 5 melon breads in inventory while able to eat more.

>>23562002
What's the difference between a soft and hard cap?

>>23567727
soft cap , stats won't go up anymore BUT you can increase it by other means , passive and active buffs etc
hard hap, that's the stop point for everything.

>>23564981
Get a pet Death Maneki or Dread Rabbit. They have Multiple Gather, which draws everything in.
Death Maneki also has Death Song, though, so I would go for Dread Rabbit.

>>23566874
>but I think it only applies to regular rocks, not huge rocks.
Yeah, it only applies to stones, which are the little throwing rocks. It does apply to the <Vanilla Rock> though. The enchantment just increases the damage multiplier and pierce% a bit.

>>23565071
>>23565482
>>23566874
>>23567962

Thank you so much for this helpful information, guys! By the way, can I prevent the death Maneki from using his death song by setting a custom AI?

>>23568924
>can I prevent the death Maneki from using his death song by setting a custom AI?
Yes. With custom AI, if you don't tell them to do something they won't do it.

>>23567179
Pets don't eat anything cursed from what I read. Could that be it?

Been playing ElonaCG+, how come it seems like my melee pets can't keep up with my spell caster pets at all?

I've given one of my melee pets a living lightsabre with lightning+Cold element damage, but they're only doing a 10th of the damage my spell caster does with a lightning bolt cast. Is there something I'm missing?

>>23569118
No, I have 100s of blessed melon bread I preped for my pets.

>>23569278
Too satiated?

>>23567179
That's a convenience feature in Elona Custom, otherwise no as far as I'm aware.
The best you can do for mass feeding is to leave the food on the ground and let them eat food off the ground.

>>23569113
Great!

>>23569246
Depending on how long this has been going on for, it could just be under-levelled. Compare their character sheets to see what's going on. Also, if you're using custom AI, make sure it's using Shadow Step to get to distant enemies fast.

>>23569495
They've both been in my party for around the same amount of time, although the spell caster is probably ahead simply due to getting kills way more often.
This isn't just a case of being able to hit the enemy, it's just that each attack from my spell caster just does way more damage than an attack from my melee pet.

>>23570054
>although the spell caster is probably ahead simply due to getting kills way more often.
That's exactly what I mean by it could be under-levelled.
>This isn't just a case of being able to hit the enemy
It's a case of the amount of hits your pet can get in before the enemy dies. If it has to walk up a few tiles, your mage pet can be shitting out damage so the melee one has less to do. Which means it'll get less training, and it'll fall even further behind. With Shadow Step, it'll be constantly hitting on-screen enemies.

>>23570110
Anon what I mean is this

Melee pet gets a turn and attacks: 1000 damage
Caster pet gets a turn and attacks : 10000 damage

I'm not talking about the number of hits. I'm talking about the damage they get in when they do have the ability to hit. My pet already has shadow step.

>>23570226
Yeah, I know it does less damage. What I'm talking about is how to stop the difference getting worse.

>>23570266
Teach magic to your melee pets.

How doable is 4 scythe mutant. Im not sure if I can get right accuracy with how penalty works.

I kinda want to make a mutant wielding 14 justice weapons, and be the cutest eldritch abomination hero of justice ever.
Where do they spawn ?
How often ?
Any cheese to exploit ?

Alright, I'm making my own big tiddie sprite to replace my old one. Then I'll try and get my old many armed char back.

>>23571432
Oh and its fine. My old character had 20 or so weps at once and there are a few things to note
>Timestop prevents misses, or makes them very unlikely, forget which
>Guns can come with timestop ammo
>Double invoke timestops
>Sheena's panty is common and timestops
>Continuous attacks with duel wield levels absurdly fast, to the point you just stop missing entirely near the instant you enter act 2
You won't level as fast, but also don't need to hit as much, just timestop bosses and the like and trash dont matter

>>23571507
Im having problem with weight early on ruining my accuracy. Its okay if I have really light weapons, but as soon as I get to something over 3 or 4s it starts taking massive hit. At least spirit cloth is nice early on for speed.

>>23571631
Just keep hitting until it stops being an issue lol
That's really all there is to it.
If something is too annoying to risk missing, just use the sword beam/garden/any other op as fuck part 1 skill.
Your goal is really just to get continuous attacks

Name some dumb gimmick builds. Can be thematic. Can be retarded. Doesn't matter. I'm interested in trying something weird.

>>23571660
I guess Ill just rely on pets to get to act 2 while leveling cooking and gardening then start powerleveling myself afterwards.

Good thing I started as farmer. Thanks for info.

>>23571668
Only attack by throwing dead fish.

>>23571668
Pyromancer.
Embrace the fiery item destruction.
Weep when reading the log.

>Skilled Shot:You can shoot distant enemies with a bow.
>Harlot:You have a reputation for delivering good service.
>Slinger:You are a good long distance thrower.
No,seriously,what do these omake feats do? any raw data? or anything?

>>23572122
Whore perks give more money, reduce numbers of turns and stamina spent.
Very whoreth it.

I am to EAT my way to victory and you cant stop me!

you can add single skills with elosnack right? having all sp_acts just to get voracity fang feels like cheating even if i wont use them

>>23572147
Yeah, though last I checked it the spact section was incomplete so voracity fang may not be included. You can still do it through cheat engine, though it's fairly tedious.
Have a feat point ready to spend on something that gives you a spact, check for all addresses returning 0, acquire said spact feat, check for addresses returning 1. You may need to savescum a couple times in order to narrow it down to just one address. Once you got it edit it to 0 and check back in game if you lost the spact to confirm you got the right one and didn't accidentally Palmia, shift by 4 (8? I forgot, check the spact file in elosnack), edit the address to 1, check in game what did it unlock and repeat until you get what you want.

r8 my collection

Anyone know if devil fragments do anything? Can't find any info on them on the wiki.They show up as something you can use when you press [t].

>>23574634
Good thing white guardian is there to protect perfectly virgin

>>23571466
What about using a Little Sister? They're mutant race, right?

>>23573408
Doesn't GFU provide the source? You could just copy "add a spact" code from elsewhere, change it to Voracity Fang, and tack it onto Dimensional Move/Exorcist/whatever.

In + they are, in OO they're their own race. But I think his goal is to do it for himself, not a pet.

>>23578149
i will try that and see how it goes,thanks anon

savescum is a must for a mutant character,right?

>>23581131
No, but its recomended, imo, since if you are playing a mutant, chances are its for a very specific gimmick, or you are doing the rush act 2 thing with a very OP pet and a single trap/leveling stealth too much can fuck you over.
Even if you just leave all slots to chance, the game is still generally very easy, so you'll still be fine.

>>23581170
What's wrong with leveling stealth?

>>23581186
Nothing, unless you are rushing act 2 as a mutant, to farm little girls for apples, to buy life, to trade for max limbs from gavela before ever mutating once. If you are doing this, stealth passively levels simply from you being near your own pet (who solos the game for you to avoid gaining any other exp while doing this), and if you get too much, you mutate early. Which gavela views as one of his slots.
The goal is to get 13 slots, at level 1 or 2.
I used to have a character like this, hoping its still on my own PC so I don't have to do it again.

>>23581204
I see. Thanks.

>>23575686
Black Menace clashes with White Guardian, leaving Good man Sex enough time to take Perfectly Virgin.

>>23581204
Can't you use exp draining equipment?

>>23571466
>Where do they spawn ?
>>23578689
>I think his goal is to do it for himself, not a pet.
Mutant pet > mutant PC, no rush required.
Would be great if you could use those doctors to choose your mutant limbs in addition to bonus limbs, though. Set up a special check for mutants or something so resetting doesn't screw you.

>>23581274
If memory serves you used to carry over:
1 OP as fuck pet that won't kill you with magic
Exp draining gear
And I think eat rotten food or similar if that wasn't good enough? Or mayb die. Been so long since I did this, I don't remember what exactly reduces exp.
I do remember I didn't have much exp draining gear, maybe if I brought more it'd be easier.
The end result being a level 1 or 2 char with a semi-permanent -45% speed malus, barely any hp and a massive number of sisters needed to dupe any more items. But now, apparently, you can just trade ap for hp for some fucking reason, so one of those downsides may as well not exist.


>>23581286
Yes, pets are always better than the PC in +, not seeing your point.
He wants to make himself cool, as far as I can see it, not be optimal. If that was his goal he'd be making a bell his pet.

>>23581286
>no rush required
>>23581401
>not seeing your point
Not everybody has the grit to do that Act 2 at L2 thing.

You don't need to for a 14 armed mutant, which is what he was aiming for.

My question was for the justice weapons part.
As in, what's the likelihood to see even one, let alone 14.
Elona plus really spoiled me with tailored living weapons.

And i counted the shoot slot in the 14 weapons figure, sadly oomsest don't got no slot manipulation like plus.
I know how to memory edit slots though.

I've been playing Elona literally longer than I remember and I have seen 0 living, justice, etc weps.
Makes me jealous when people do

>>23581806
>>And i counted the shoot slot in the 14 weapons figure, sadly oomsest don't got no slot manipulation like plus.
>I know how to memory edit slots though.
If its oom you can just make a custom race with x limbs in 5 mins

>>23581832
But it's cheating.
Mmmh... then again, what about making a magikarp race ?
Snail is kinda fun, but there's no onion knight feel, as in a huge payoff after suffering through the leveling, just a return to normal.

What about that : 1 all stats, life mana speed too, no au naturel bonus, no starting skills.
BUT 11 hands, and all race feats.

Ah nah, it's enticing but it'd be too easy to overcome.
Fuck it, i'll keep playing my elea zap zap and rethink about it if i find a justice weapon..

>>23582148

In oomsest snails are basically an off-brand mutant, since you can wish to be the mutant race and get the extra limb growth as a snail too. Though, that does just make you normal-ish.

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Snails are plenty powerful in plus at least, since you can customize their limbs with gavela.

You can also customize mutant limbs by chopping off the extras from leveling at port kapul, then buying a fresh set from gavela.

Since equipment and ether disease is 90% of your build anyway, snails and mutants are the 2 strongest endgame races there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQxnStmGcTM
This is what plays every night in Derphy's/Melkawn's casino.

>>23582148
Eh, I don't see how using one of the primary addtions to OO is cheating, why even play it if you don't want to use its features

>>23582560
From what I remember OOM's balance was like
Mutant>Snail>Lich>Trash>More trash>A dumpster>A heroin needle in the dumpster>Fairy
Since lich get some pretty absurd innate defenses in it

>>23582560
>you can wish to be the mutant race
You can wish for the secret treasure
?
Out of wizard mode ?

>>23582920
OOM's balance is more like this:

save scumed Mutant (or mutant snail) > lich > fairy > golem > else > rng mutant > normal snail

Fairies and liches are both pretty strong thanks to the naked pv/dv buffs at the start, and the fact everything caps damage with violence and +1000 weapons.

It's plus where fairies are bottom tier.

>>23583231
You can change your race by wishing for it, and when you wish to be a mutant, you gain it's feat. Any race can do this, but the limb speed penalty is uncapped, so beware of doing this with a normal race, unless you like -60% speed.

>>23582828
Cool

>elona thread survives long enough to reach bump limit
Today is a good day.

Oh hey,i always assumed ether diseases were a bad thing but some of them look useful

>>23590827
yeah but the problem is that if you want to get rid of something else you might get rid of that since it's random.

It's still random, right?I don't know, I haven't upgraded my game since hydraulics became a thing.

>>23590827
Yeah, those were added post-1.90.

>>23591870
When was it random? It was clearing whats most recent for quite long time already.

>>23590827
A lot of them are useful, especialy if you are playing mutant. These that disable slots but give bonuses can be really good just giving you free stats.

>>23590827
I got the tail one on a dex based character. I got up to like 15 dex before I decided to go with a different playthrough.

>>23581832
Living weapons rarely drop, but they are really easy to find and cheap from random merchants encounters on world map. Just use roads when walking and you will have tons of them in no time.

Getting specific one you want might be hard, but just any for stat sticks shouldnt be problem. My fresh save made couple days ago has sword, spear, axe, shotgun and crossbow. And you can give these to pets so its not hard to level multiple at once.

How does giving pets precious equips work? If I give my shopkeeper the <Kaneituuhou>, can I get and equip a dupe or will it turn into stardust?

fatchan.org/v/ elona thread check it out

>>23592746
It will turn into stardust.