/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Tell them its because you're a businessman and there's plenty of opportunities in Japan's robust and healthy economy.

I tell them it's because I fap to loli doujinshi and play eroge.

>>2338072
The best answer, although then people tend to look at you a bit odd, not as odd as if you said the real reason, however.

"want to tro-... be a respective member of 2ch community"

>"interest in the culture" is not enough of an incentive to learn a language.

why not? "interest in the culture" is what i've always answered.

>>2338075
I'm not joking, by the way. Unless it's your parents or someone who would kick your ass for it, it's always best to be honest about things like this. If it bothers someone, you probably won't really get on well with them anyway.

It's to help me learn Kendo, since a lot of senseis that visit the US don't speak English, and it'd be cool to understand them without one of my Japanese sempais translating.

I'd also like to go to Japan to practice Kendo at some time in the future.

>hiragana

>>2338072

>Japan's robust and healthy economy.

wut

"I like Japanese media"

>>2338080
This is what I would say...

I am interested in french literature, so I'm interested in learning french
I am interested in Japanese culture and history, so I'm interested in learning japanese

absolutely nothing wrong with saying you're interested

I hate to sound cliche, but people who get angry or perturbed because you happen to be interested in something different are probably boring or not worth your time

>>2338080
Besides, loli doujinshi are part of the culture.

>>2338072
This applies to more than just buisnessmen:

"Japan is one of the head nations of technological advances, and all my preferred prospective careers are technologically based so it would help my resumé immensely."

If that excuse doesn't work for you, its not just because you have no interest in technology, but because you don't look like you're the kind of person that does.

If you're reading this, you're on 4chan and if the above doesn't apply to you then get out you web2.0 faggot.

BECAUSE JRAWK IS THE SUGOIIEST AND SAUSKAY IS KAWIIII. HO-TONY, I REALLY MEAN IT.

BAKA.

I tell them that I want to play VN and galge.

>>2338072
hey, that's also almost true for me. thanks bro.
I'll just have to deal with the "well you'd better have learned Chinese then"-remarks

>>2338079
no one knows what that is

>>2338080
because people dig deeper. "well, what aspects? what exactly? your intah ENNIMAY AND TEH VIDYA AMIRITE HURR DURR"

>>2338101
thanks, it applies

I tell them there was a book series I was tired of being translated. I took the initiative to learn the language in order to continue reading. Works well enough.

because it's a big challenge for us western people

say that and you will look smart

>>2338118
I was tired of waiting on being translated*

>>2338067
Who are these people and why are they asking me about my moonstudies? Who managed to sneak into my house?

Because I like learning languages.

I tell people it's because I want to develop Japanese games. Gaming is a pretty main stream entertainment so it's usually an accepted answer. Saying "I like Japanese technology and innovations" also works.

I've usually said I was fascinated by their history, and enamered with the language. People usually just say that's cool and don't think anything of it.

>>2338126
A robber.

It'll make the whole "I'm not just doing it to read loli doujins" angle a lot harder when they catch you in the act.

I'd start speaking in tongues and throw stuff at them.

>>2338113
if you need to give them an answer that goes beyond modern japanese culture you can tell them that you're interested in renaissance era japan, which is pretty cool

just come up with some bottled responses that relate to anthropology, linguistics and/or history.

you can also say you're interested in east asian philosophy, and japan has a shit-load of interesting philosophers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_philosophers

inb4 musashi-fags chime in

>>2338136

That is just...


Cruel! What do I have that they would possible want?!

I'm buying a dog!

>>2338146
They probably got the wrong address.

It happens, my second-cousin died that way.

I have alot of japanese friends, so I figure why not learn the language.

>>2338146
don't foget to draw the curtains, either

Tom Cruise is absolutely dreamy! He learned Japanese when he was staying with savages, so I'm gonna learn it to! Then we can talk to each other in Japanese and no one will know what we are saying =D!

Oh~ my heart skips a beat just thinking about it.

>>2338067
Because I have nothing better to do.

>>2338143
...you rang?

If somebody asked I'd say it was because of Japanese robot technology. This isn't why I first started learning, but it's a major reason why I continue. I'll get my robot waifu someday.

I tell them I'm learning japanese because it's an exotic language and seemed like an interesting challenge.
They always eat it.

>>2338167
Noooooooo my childhood waifu. ;_;
How can you do that, anon.

Japanese is made up of alot of Chinese! So learning Japanese is like learning two languages at once!

>>2338181
oh hi, you must be new! enjoy your stay here, make sure to check the other boards, too. especially /d/

Because learning languages is awesome.

Ok, to sum it up:

* Interest in culture, philosophy, arts, history
* Japan is a great opportunity with it's robust and healthy economy
* Interest in technology, computing, robots
* Interest in martial arts
* It's an exotic language and a challenge
* GIRUGAMESH

>>2338216

What about Cruise-domo?

Luckily it is required for my degree, so everyone assumes I'm just earning my scholarship.

Everyone in my college was doing Chinese at the time and said it was fucking impossible to learn. I just say I got the recommendation that if I did an asian language I should do Japanese as it's easy compared to chinese.

>>2338224
what degree is that?

No one knows besides my parents and the one coworker I have. My parents haven't asked, my coworker asked and I said that I had a lot of time while at work so I figured I'd try learning another language.

because I want to work in snow resort tourism in Canada when I'm older, and there is a massive amount of Japanese tourism with a relative gap in the market for translation/ concierge stuff for all the japs who are uselss at english


(and i like sushi, jrawk, and GIRUGAMESH)

and i want a little half japanese kid

and i like animus

I looove sushi <3<3<3!

>>2338257
I LOVE JAPAN, PERIOD

>>2338265


AND MANGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>robots
exactly this

everyone will be like HELL YEAH ROBOTS ARE NEAT, THAT REASON IS ACCEPTABLE

I say it's because of the internet and evade further questions.

>>2338067
>I can't say it's because I fap to loli doujins

I don't see why not.

>>2338301
Robots are scary.

>>2338280
When is Suckooracoon, anyway? I can't wait to rage at the Touhou panel.

"What do you mean 'learn' Japanese?"
"It's my first langauge, moron"

>>2338339

sugoi monogatari, aniki.

>>2338399
That's actually the exact response I expected, well done /jp/. I'll go along now, not existing.

I just tell them it's because I watch Japanese dramas. Most people get off your back after that, possibly due to fear.

I tell them that I learning the most popular languages of the world.
Hell, I already know
English
Italian
Spanish
and French.

>>2338508
You forgot German.

Do people really ask that much? No one seems to question why people learn other languages. Is there something special about Japanese?

I just say that I watch girl cartoons in Japanese, and learning japanese helps me to understand them better.

>>2338508
I can only speak/write in English and Spanish...

>>2338576
I'd reason that most channers have friends with uncommon tastes. As a result, their friends are probably aware of the stigmas associated with anime and japan beyond whacky game shows.

As a result, it's likely they would draw certain conclusions when it's revealed that their friend is learning the language.

I'm an ECE major who intends to build robots for a living. Japan's robot industry is pretty damn advanced. I figured I can either get a job at an American division of a Japanese company, or be the go-to guy for an American company when being sent on business trips to Japan. My girlfriend is also 1/4 Japanese and we're taking classes together.

>>2338606
Is it her grandma? I she an enka singer/part black?

>>2338216

...Er...Translation?
How about "I'm studying to become a Japanese translator"

It's always easy for me because I'm an East Asian history major.

....also known as a clever ruse so I can learn to read VNs.

>>2338309
is dat sum メアリー　ハート？

>>2338675
翻訳者になるため勉強をしています

>>2338731

>翻訳者になるため勉強をしています
翻訳者になるために勉強しています

>>2338764
both are technically correct, buddy

>>2338764
Way to show how you know elementary grammar. Also you're wrong in context. You wouldn't add on the に when you're talking in first person to someone else.

翻訳はいいんだが自然に考えろう。

>>2338771

No, he's missing に or の after ため depending on what exactly he meant to say.

>>2338783
see
>>2338780

Now this is the problem with teaching yourself. Unless you have someone who knows this shit right telling you what to do, then you look stupid like this.
>>2338783
>>2338764

>>2338780

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=545

>>2338796
You just showed you are wrong.

>>2338804

>Your sentences are perfect.

>>2338796
①　禁断の扉を開けるために、この辺で鍵を探している
②　禁断の扉を開くための戦争で、数人が殺された。　(should it be 開ける?)
holy fuck, what are they teaching in waterloo.

>>2338808
You're only showing you don't know what 為 means.

>>2338820

If you want to omit particles to sound more "natural" go ahead

>>2338796
You have no idea how natural spoken japanese is used. Stemming from that you probably don't pronounce them right since you don't ever use the language.

Way to show you're wasting your time with something you don't use.

>>2338824
What. You stick 私は on every fucking sentence you write? Learn some Japanese, else you look just retarded.

>>2338812
禁断の扉を開くための戦争で、数人が殺された

This sentence is awkward and stupid.

>>2338833

There is absolutely nothing incorrect about ために, so you really need to just give up.

>>2338841
You're absolutely retarded it looks like.
First, think of the situation. He wants to know how to say the phrase that he will then be using to tell someone else.
Second, if you're speaking in Japanese you should say it like you're Japanese. Not like you're a book.
Third, You are wrong by context. I guess you enjoy not seeing the entire picture, because it's obvious you don't understand how language works.
Four, Your examples are poor and wrong. If you want to make a solid argument then you should at least use your own understanding to prove your point rather than use incorrect similar examples that don't apply.
Five, Don't bother trying to argue with someone whose been doing this for longer than you've been alive.

Your advice is wrong, your understanding of Japanese is second-hand and weak, and you don't seem to understand how to use a spoken language.

I hope you enjoy saying "Twas" and "Forth" because they are proper English.

>>2338867
ちょｗｗｗｗおまｗｗｗｗ

>>2338841
This is statement not a fact. You don't use no or ni for statements of intent.

>>2338867

I've heard plenty of Japanese people use ために rather than ため. I never said ため was wrong at all, I said if you want to use it go ahead. There's so little context hear that I don't think it matters, if he was asked a question and gives a one line response, it's much different than being in the middle of an in depth conversation. I only googled to show that I am not alone. I understand how to use a spoken language. People say things differently, use different words, and have different beliefs in general about language. Anyone can act like you to make it seem like they are right, yet all you have been doing is saying I am wrong and sound unnatural. If you want to continue arguing, that's fine. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm not saying I am wrong either.

ため ために and ための are all find.

Instead of making a new thread, I'll just ask here.

http://ichi2.net/anki/

Is Aniki helpful(and virus free), /jp/?

>>2338947
Yes.

>>2338947
Yes. Everyone uses it.

>>2338930
for being so much more infer- i mean 'younger' than >>2338867 you sure do have double his maturity.

tldr; you're a cool guy, charlie brown.

>>2338930
wrong.
>People say things differently, use different words, and have different beliefs in general about language.
wrong.
You can believe whatever the fuck you want to in how to use a language. That doesn't make you right.
Saying the sky is red because red is how you think blue looks is wrong.
Thinking because there are various uses for the same thing and you decide to use an older method for how it normally was used is still wrong.
Thinking because it's technically right makes it fine to use is wrong.
Believing you can try to weasel out of being wrong by making an everyone poops argument is wrong.
Ignoring the reasons why you are wrong and trying to prove you are right still shows you are wrong.
If you want to try to prove a point then take it back later when you are wrong, doesn't mean you aren't wrong. It means now you're just admitting you don't know.
Don't bother arguing when you're wrong. Just go away. Nobody needs your wrong advice. Don't give it. When someone shows you are wrong, admit it.
>I've heard plenty of Japanese people use ために rather than ため.
...Christ that's just wrong in any sense. How often would you hear a normal Japanese person use ためX at all? The situations you use it are so few that this is barely ever said in regular conversation.

>>2338955
>>2338972

Thanks

>>2338947
Don't spread it around, it's better to be left to the few who know.

And yes, I use it too.

>>2338974
You shouldn't go after him with irony.

Actually, if you're going to just use ため, it would be better to use a 読点. I love the trolling going on in this thread, though.

>>2338997
fffff, well you got me there.
Well met Anonymous.

>>2338988
There isn't really any anki community to ruin, so it should be safe to mention it here.

>>2338947
>so that you can learn a lot of information with the minimum amount of effort.
Enjoy your never going to know Japanese.

>>2338980

No, I do know. I'll continue saying ために whenever I want. No one is going to look at me funny or say I'm wrong. There is nothing wrong with saying "In order to become a translator, I am studying Japanese"

But let's continue arguing about this.

>>2339037,

meet

>>2338997
and
>>2339012

>>2339037
If you don't see anything wrong with your English then there is no hope for you.
Please stop trying, you're just now making yourself look stupid.

>>2339037
You'll only start to sound weird/pretentious when you begin using がため、が故、乃至、且つ etc. in daily conversation.

>>2339049

It does sound weird. I would rather say "I am studying because I want to become a translator"

翻訳者になりたいから、勉強しています which evades ため alltogether

>>2339065
Good man.

Rather him saying ため though. Since he's a foreigner and needs to prove he's actually learning from shit other than animo and mange.

>>2339079

you mean animu and mango ;)

>>2338993
naw, i wasn't. i actually think hes a good guy not throwing his weight around like >>2338867. In fact, i don't see why >>2338867 is still at it. Its an anonymous message board. Nobody knows (or cares) who you are, so chill. Whether he was right or not, just the way hes preaching makes me less inclined to care.

>>2339052
Not seeing what's wrong with 且つ

>>2339086
Then don't fucking try to correct what isn't wrong to begin with retarded nigger. God damn trying to pretend you're now a mother fucking martyr because your bullshit wasn't right.

Stop being a dick, and shut the fuck up.

>>2339052
There's nothing WRONG with it, exactly -- it just comes off as more literary/written than oral. That doesn't mean that it isn't used -- all the others are used orally, as well; rather, using them in casual conversation might cause one to come across as perhaps more bookish or mechanical than one would desire.

>>2339092

Who said I corrected it? I just changed it to the way I would say the same thing

>>2339104
Isn't that exactly what's wrong it?

>>2339107
Fuck, I've been trolled all this time. Here I was thinking he was just being stupid, but he's purposely being a stupid asshole.

You win, 10/10 you piece of shit.

>>2339120
But it's not incorrect. It will just come across as "academic/erudite" and not "lol moe-blob kawaiiiiii." It's a matter of social context.

>>2339034
You've never used Anki, have you?

>>2339127
... What?
You just jumped from et al to SKEET SKEET SKEET. Also no, you're a fucking moron. It would come off as "Hey, I'm Phil" instead of "Salutations ladies and gentles, I am the one they call Phil"
If you enjoy sounding stupid to common people, then go ahead and stick it on when you're talking to your blue eyed blonde haired Japanese teacher.

>>2339152
You're such a cute little troll.

>>2339143
I'm sorry I study like any normal person would. I am sorry I feel that learning how to write and read by hand is out of date. I'm sorry you feel that how to guides are a good way to go about learning how to use a language.

>>2339161
I do both, faggot.

>>2339161

Anki is a flash card program. I would rather store 8000 flash cards on my computer than somewhere in my house.

>>2339167
Anki isn't just any flash card system, it's a spaced repetition system. And anybody trying to learn a language without a spaced repetition system is a fucking moron.

All the people calling each other faggots and morons must be bitter that they still have to study Japanese.

>>2339173
>>2339167
>>2339165
You should at least try to look like different people.

Thus you just showed why you'll never understand Japanese. (You aren't fucking using it as a language)
You can't do shit with what you know, if you aren't taking it seriously, stop trying.
I hate when retards like you try to become translators and use literal bullshit to make awful wrong translations. You don't know what you're doing. If you are translating right now I feel bad for the authors. Your piss poor translations then used by foreigners to make even worse translations in other languages.
Way to lower the standard, bitch.

>>2339190

Actually, >>2339167 is a different person. Me.

>>2339183
Welcome to /jp/.

>>2339197
I just don't see why they become fluent. All this studying seems like it must be so tiring!

>>2339203
*don't see why they don't.

>>2339203
It's not the studying, it's the trying to apply it.
Nobody wants bad pornography, and nobody wants awful art.

.. oh wait, but yeah.

I'm sick of this bullshit. I'm sick of this person that I am pretty sure know that translates something always coming here and being obviously stupid.

>>2339190
Sorry,
>>2339165 is me. Try again.

>>2339190
So, apparently, using a flash-card type system makes it so that I don't study it in other forms? Fascinating.

ぼくわにほんご

>>2338067
How about trying to sound good in a college application resume?

>>2339293
Wow, it's like you like to intemperate things completely wrong. It doesn't matter if you're learning them in any other way.
If you're relying on flash cards you aren't going to learn a language. There is no test, it's a language.
You aren't learning shit. You have to remind yourself because you aren't using the language. I don't care if you take your Heisig and say "gosh darn, I'm a going to get me one of those geisha girls and become one of them dern samurais." You simply aren't learning.

>>2339340
Flash cards are used for memorization so if I only used flash cards to learn Japanese, then I wouldn't be learning anything. FORTUNATELY, I supplement my education on the matter with OTHER MATERIALS. Just because you're using flash cards doesn't mean you've crossed a line in which it's impossible to learn the language. Also, 'intemperate' is an adjective, not a verb.

>I can't say it's because I fap to loli doujins and "interest in the culture" is not enough of an incentive to learn a language.

tell the truth - shame the devil

>>2339340
If it's a part of the language you use often then mark it 5 a few times and it will be years before it shows up again. Using a SRS is *always* better than not using a SRS, because the cost of using it is extremely low when don't need it, and when you do need it it's much better than forgetting.

>>2338067
them: Why are you learning Japanese?
me: Why not? It sounded like a good idea at the time.

>>2339362
No. You've proved already with what you've said you know jack shit from all your actual "study". But I digress, your argument only further proves you stupid to be honest.
>Flash cards are used for memorization so if I only used flash cards to learn Japanese, then I wouldn't be learning anything.
wrong. That you're using flash cards to memorize is the problem with your "study". This isn't a test son. This is a language. You can be stupid with how you go about it all you want. You can feel proud with how much you learn.

Just keep your shit to yourself. Nobody wants you to make opinions on this subject. You are a student, don't try to sound like a teacher.

Also nice catch, it looks like you can look up words you didn't know in an online dictionary. Here I was thinking you'd not even go through that much effort. You've restored my faith in you not being a troll.

Why do you even have to give an answer? If someone asks why you're learning Japanese just say you're doing it because you want to.

>>2339507
I haven't said anything about my other methods of studying. Just that I use flash cards. That's all. Many people on /jp/ use flash cards, be it Anki or on kanji.koohii.com. Enjoy making something unnecessarily hard on yourself, teacher. Also, I hope you weren't implying that one would need to actually look up the word 'intemperate' when it's just 'in-' and 'temperate'.

>>2339507
...And you're not a student?

>>2339530
>Many people on /jp/ use flash cards
No.
>be it Anki or on kanji.koohii.com
No.
Enjoy making things up trying to fit in with the crowd.

I'm implying I doubt your ability to use language.
Your Japanese is obviously below that of an elementary school child. Why are you trying to imply I should believe you don't lack a high school level of English?

>>2339538
Wouldn't surprise me. Who else but teachers have the motivation to make learning unnecessarily difficult?

This type of thread always ends up a e-peen contest.

お前らもいい加減飽きろよ、大人気ないぞ。

>>2339553
You and maybe one other person are the only ones saying that using flash cards are not a good way to study. Again, enjoy not remembering shit because easier methods aren't hardcore enough for you.

やれやれだぜ。 ┐ (´・ω・`) ┌ =3

>>2339553
Why would someone's knowledge of japanese effect their knowledge of english?

>>2339530
Nobody wants your opinion on this subject.　　It doesn't matter what else you pretend you're doing to learn the language. You are not suited to give advice. Whine all you wish on how competent you believe you are, but that doesn't change a thing.

>>2339585
Samefag all you want, /jp/ still likes SRS.

>>2339579
You should go to mangahelpers.com and then say that.

>>2339568
>お前らもいい加減飽きろよ、大人気ないぞ。

Ordinary learning: Memorize the language, and memorize how much you've memorized the language, and how much you've memorized the memories of how much you've memorized the language, and how much....
SRS learning: Memorize the language, let the computer handle all the meta-memory

Why make work for yourself?

>>2339585
>pretend you're doing

Apparently, using simple methods to remember simple things doesn't actually help? And tell me, what makes you so well suited to give advice, Anonymous of /jp/?

>>2339593
I could see the opposite being true (knowledge of native language effecting ability of learning a second) but how would somebodies ability to learn a second effect their native? It's completely different.

>>2339607
He is a master of Japanese.

<(￣＾￣)>エッヘン, <(￣＾￣)>どうだ。

>LOL MY METHOD IS BETAR DAN URS
>NO ME

>>2339608
You didn't look at what they write there. I don't see english there

So, how many of you are good enough to stealth post in 2channel/comment in nicodou without being detected as gaijin?

>>2339607
12 years and a degree. What do you got?

>>2339646
I just post 'ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ' seems to have worked so far.

>>2339652
50 years and 7 degrees.

Hey, everybody! I'm fluent and the only relatively polite person here!

>>2339646
I've played PSO and what have you with Japanese players and never been detected as non-native.

>>2339684
（ー。－）ｙ－～　
Know what you mean bro

>>2339658
I should have been more precise. I mean more than a sentence or two(or more complicated than community college), enough to put a paragraph together/troll.

たとえば・・・

ニコニコ動画とはネット上のビデオアップロードサイトであり、ユーザーた
ちが自分で作ったりコメントを動画の上に書き込むなどするグーグル社の
YOUTUBEに似たサイトである。

Sorta sounds like a little too academic, but meh.

>>2339689
And then, after chatting for an hour or so, the conversation turns to going to bed, and they're all like "so you're studying abroad" and I'm like "no, bro -- I live in the States" and they're all like "When did you move there?" and I'm all like "I'm American" and they're all like "Nikkei, right?" and I'm like "No, actually I'm not."

They always seem to get a little uneasy at that point.

>>2339553
>>2339507
>>2339340
>>2339190
>>2339152
>>2339049
>>2338980
>>2338867
I'm sick of your pretentious bullshit. Whether or not you actually know the language as well as you say you do or not is fucking irrelevant. Why are you being suck a fucking prick to this guy? He doesn't know 'colloquial' Japanese. Who the fuck cares? He obviously knows more than the average denizen of /jp/, at least he's actually attempting to learn the language. And by the way, pal, 為に and 為 work both just as well as "I'm Peter," and "I am the one called Peter." Is one of them slightly more awkward? Sure, but whats the big fucking deal? He's a foreigner anyway, it's not like anyone is going to give a flying fuck.

To be honest, I haven't seen any real fucking content to your posts. It's nothing but 'you suck at japanese, i'm not listening to you. Learn english you faggot.' You haven't said anything even slightly productive, despite being pretty well organized. Sorry, organization ≠ content.

And now you're saying flashcards are useless? What the fuck man, I'm starting to wonder whether you've ever learned ANYTHING, language or not. How the hell you do expect to "use" or "practice" anything if you've never learned it? It's like me asking you what my cat's name is, yet you have never had any exposure to it. Are you a fucktard? And Anki -- you're bashing that too? Jesus christ, you're even more of a fucking retard than the kid who accidentally "mixed up" something that was grammatically correct in the first place.

Get the fuck out you fucking troll.

>>2339695
stiff, odd. Obvious.
Of course nobody would say anything, but if you made a response they'd probably flog you.

Lurk moar.

>>2339710
The internet is srs bzns だぜっ！

>>2339695
my comprehension is really good, but if I have to create things on my own, my vocabulary and grammar isn't too extensive.

I can read it just fine, but if I post, I think I would probably be detected as a foreigner

>>2339710
>Sure, but whats the big fucking deal
Trying to correct "I'm Peter," with "I am the one called Peter."
HURR I GUESS NOT HAVING TO PROVE THIS IS WRONG IS MY FAULT. HURRRRRRRRR
Christ, why don't you just get the fuck out.

Whining about me bashing flash cards? Are you 12? You intend to learn an entire fucking language through flash cards? Fucking Christ, it's like you're just now being stupid for the sake of being stupid. "Oh no, it's just a supplement". Who wants to eat your bullshit when all you say it "Oh no, not ONLY flash cards. I do SO MUCH MORE".

I sick of your trolling, just fucking leave.

>>2339734
You mad?

>>2339715
I admitted it sounds academic, bro. It still sounds native? Did you want me to sound more casual?

ニコニコ動画ってのはなぁ、最近人気になった動画サイトでよ。それが楽し
くてよぉ、VIPとユーチューブが合体したってかんじですんげーおもしれぇ
んだぜ～！

subject matter sounds retarded for my lack of inspiration of what I want to talk about. But otherwise, I think this is what you expected?

>>2339734
>I sick of your trolling

>>2339734
Please, I'm not even the same guy.

I'm just sick of you being a pretentious condescending faggot. He, despite whether he was wrong or not, had the decency to be polite and try to explain himself calmly.

You're the type of faggot who thinks yelling louder means you're winning the argument.

>>2339734
Perhaps it is you who should leave. You're the only one (maybe one other, but it was probably a samefag) saying SRS methods are not good.

>>2339742
Now you sound like a jerk.

cause i needed a foreign language in University, and i didn't want to take Spanish again, or German. And I'm already 4 semesters into the language so I might as well keep on it.

>>2339758
えっ？!
ちょｗ
じゃ～何て言えば良いんだよ！
ってか、お前が手本見せろっつーの。

>>2339748
Wait, just read what you just wrote.
"I wasn't the guy trying to prove what was wrong was right."
Your entire point of my comments lacking content ignored now you go on to just call me a faggot?

4/10 good sir.

Here's a thought for all of you "experts." If you can't pass the level 1 JLTP, stop trying to correct people's Japanese.

>>2339787
1. It's JLPT
2. These people are beyond JLPT 1 level.

>>2339787
I have a JKAT2 if it makes a difference.

>>2339786
You're acting like a prick.
I'm indifferent to any grammar mistakes that may or may not have made.

I'm just against people like you being pretentious, condescending, and just acting like a goddamn asshole to a guy who's just trying to learn a language in the method he knows how.

>>2339799
I wish I had a J-Cat. ;_;

>>2339793
1. Yes, god forbid I make a mistake typing.
2. You clearly have no idea about how the JLPT is formatted. It has 4 levels, with 4 being the easiest and 1 being the highest. I doubt anyone here could pass level 4 from what I've seen.

>>2339774
いや。。。見れば分かるもん出来る訳じゃないし。　　下手く歌ったやつは
誰だって分かるんだ。　　そういうのだ。

>>2339823
Are you kidding me? JLPT4 is easy. Hell, 3's not even that bad. I'm pretty sure anyone here who has posted any Japanese could pass 4, even that guy who said ぼくわにほんご could pass 4.

>>2339823
If not 1 at least 2, and I said SOME. 1 isn't monstrously hard either, it's just high school level crap.

>>2339793
...?
日本語能力試験１級!=JLPT 1 level
God damn, at least change the order man.

>>2338723
Was it Takeshi who got molested on the train, or was it the other guy? It's been years since I read those textbooks.

>>2339695
>>2339742
>fix'd

にこにこ動画とてはねつと上のびでおあつぷろうどさいとにありて、用いる
者ども、おのがじしものこしらひ、はたびでおにて言葉添ふるをするぐう
ぐるの社がＹＯＵＴＵＢＥに似たるさいとなり。

>>2339847
Yes, because putting 3 years worth of terms and phrases into less than 11 months after JLPT2 is easy.

>>2339828
Wait, WTF? Do yourself a favor and go back to japanese 101.

>>2339854
おおっ、なんか吐血してきた。

ぼくわがんだむすき

>>2339854
Did...you feed it into google translator and back?

>>2339877
Fail.

>>2339866
I'm sorry? I can't fit in with 2ch. Unless you mean there's something wrong with it besides sounding like I ripped off exactly what Akuji says?

>>2339879
No really, wtf is that supposed to say?

>>2339889
It says pretty much the same thing; I just translated it into Classical Japanese.

>>2339883
Your sentences make no sense whatsoever. That's what's wrong with it.

>>2339895
You did a pretty shitty job then, あのにますどの。

nipponjin

>>2339905
Again, you you're a cute troll. Try harder.

>>2339896
Ahh I see. You simply have no idea how to read Japanese. Thank you for wasting my time.
Why don't you go back to reading mangas? Or maybe a fine translated H-game.
Seeing as you can't read text taken right out of an h-game and pronounce that it is wrong I guess your book learning adds up to diddly shit.

konnichiwa sayonara arigato

>>2339828
特にどうして「下手く」を使ったのかい

>>2339920
>H-game

stopped there

>>2339927
おまえ、自然というのわかないのか？　それとも略知らないのか？

samurai ninja susi kamikaze harakiri

>>2339937
Me too, it was the end of that sentence.

>>2339943
Ugh, this is like stupid girls going all like 違くな～い？
It makes me want to gouge their eyes out with their mascara applicators.

>>2339943
僕はね、まだ日本に行ったことないし、漢字が苦手で初学者と言えば初学者
かもしれないけど。
やっぱり、略が知らない

>>2339937
Ah, welcome newfag. Enjoy your Japanese sub-cultural influence affecting your weeaboo phrases.
Or should I say rather your lack of influence of weeaboo culture that only is still around the guys that lived through it.
Welcome to /jp/. Your Heisig and Anki are not welcome here.

>>2339977
>Your Heisig and Anki are not welcome here.

What?

>>2339971
分かればよし

なると どらごんぼるZ ぶりち

>>2339989
ひょっとして略の意味があるサイト知ってない？

>>2339985
There's no quick fix or shortcut to learn a language proper. I don't give a shit if you can read 2,500 Kanji. You expect to take in a second language like geography or economics? This isn't high school. It's the computer age, so I don't need to write them. Enough of this bullshit. Someone who relies on flashcards obviously doesn't write them enough. Grinding every character down hundreds of times following stroke order and comprehending radicals by recognition of meaning. You are not Japanese, you can't look at characters and remember how they are "used". You aren't using it as a language. Nor are you surrounded by it. Flash cards? How the fuck could you forget something if you've written it thousands of times already?
Taking each individual word and expecting to remember "how" it's used after you know what it is?
Don't feed me that bullshit.

>>2339977
Jesus, your English is just as bad as your Japanese...

>>2340031
3/10. Way too obvious.

>>2340031
Sounds like you're just making a lot of unnecessary work for yourself.

Guys, guys. Just become fluent and we can bury the hatchet.

Since thread is tl;dr and I don't know if it's been thoroughly trolled yet, I'll give an answer.

On a whim. I wanted to learn a second language simply because I felt "Hey, there's a shitload of exotic cultures and languages out there! How bout getting in on some of that and culturing the fuck up?" "Why not Spanish or German?" you ask? Because, being a pompous prick, I'd get a smug sense of esteem every time I have to read a text comepletely unreadable to others. However, I skipped Chinese seeing as Jap at least has a 'letter' system to complement the Chinese characters. Fluency in Japanese also looks great on a resume. The thing is, other than giant robot cartoons and Japanese food, I'm not too into Japan. Then again, I'm ignorant to most other parts of the culture and I'll probably pick some up in my pursuit of the language. Why I'm on /jp/, then? I thought I'd find threads about asian chicks. Didn't know /a/ had a twin.

This thread makes me hate 4chan more than /b/ does.

>>2340277
OP here.
My work here is done.

No actually, why did this turn into a "my Japanese is better because i'm (not) using flash cards"-thread?

At least >>2340179 got back on the subject, adding valuable information.