/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av93134441
Explain this.

aporogy for poor engrand
wher wer you wen towa is kil
i was sat on chair watchin towa when suddenly men noises
"YABEEEE"
"MYUTTO SHITE!"
and you???

old thread isn't dead you retard.
>>23104326

>>23112815
I know, and I wish I didn't had to, but the other thread is almost unwatchable from mobile with how big it is, and it's already at the bottom of the last page.

>>23112847
Nobody cares, phone poster

Did she really fuck those guys?

>>23112870
no they fucked her

>>23112776
Miko is a man stuck in a miko body

>>23112870
Most probable case: A couple of guys on discord she play/chat with
Most popular one around here: Those are her bf and her bull (Cuckold stuff)

>>23112886
>The "yabe..." guy fucking debiru Towa-sama
He got fucked amazon position.

>>23112693
Old thread is still active, no need for 2, particularly since people will just discuss Towa's situation in both threads anywyay.

>>23112776
But happy birthday, you cute Elite Miko of culture.

>>23112895
>Most probable case: A couple of guys on discord she play/chat with
There was no discord sound so that makes no sense.

Help: cute doggo literally cannot stop playing David Cage game.

>>23112919
Man i can't wait to see what she does once she start Detroit.

>>23112919
>>23112929
I wish she would play that trainwreck Fahrenheit. It would provide so many entertaining reactions

Korone NO!

>>23112815
>>23112900
Congrats on realizing that both A. every single poster in these threads are fucking retards who don't know how any board works, let alone /jp/ and B. that you're posting in a thread made explicitly just to garner attention and shitposts about whatever fake drama said retards are trying to desperately push.

>>23112968
God I wish Korone did that to me.

Morning News in 14 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0f4u4LElKs

BUT FUCK THAT WATAME NAO!
Today it's the day Rockbros!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTEYM3UekAg

>>23113177
>>23113177
>BUT FUCK THAT WATAME NAO!
the opening BGM is so sweet

>>23113177
Damn, Happy Birthday Mikocchi.

>when she just wants to wear the Adidas instead of the cooking segment

Coco is insane

>She dropped the Towa story
If there's something I didn't think Coco was is a COWARD.

>>23113400
Just wait, she'll bring it up in tomorrow's news.

>>23113400
The what story? I forgot...

That's not good, it's clearly management wanting to sweep this under the rug. Several people were asking about it in chat and Coco couldn't even play it off as a joke.
Confirming that it's serious. A superchat asking about it was deleted too, wow. This is a big scandal.

>>23112693
>not having a miko OP since its her birthday
You newfags need to leave

i can't believe coco fed towa's remains to the sharks

Was Asacoco always as boring as this?

>>23113400
Well, she had to report on Sora's album and Miko's birthday, there was really no room for Towa's controversy. Plus it might be wise to stick to one strategy.

>>23113400
Coco is a bro to her fellow 4th gens.

>>23112776
She's cute.

>>23113400
I don't think Towa herself wants the story to be taken up.

I bet it will be on tomorrow's news after they've come up with some spin story.

>>23113400
what you were expect from her to say !!! it's a serious business she sign to be an idol not a youtube streamer i hope they just forget about this and she apologize and move on

reminder that 3rd gen is the best gen

"Coco will save Towa"
"Coco STRONK"
"Coco is Yagoo's boss"
"No one can stop the dragon"
GRASSING at those guys

>>23113400
So Coco didn't sell out her friend? And here I thought she was american

>>23113411
The whole "it was just their discord call" isnt holding water either since someone was moving the mouse and towa responded to them
Luna wont be the first to retire it seems
4th gen will literally be the death of Yagoo and holo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzpaVRJ0OGw
morning shion stream!

kaichou...

>>23113442
Why is Luna going to reitre?

Someone said someone's superchat got deleted, anyone know what it said?

Good job Cover corps.

>>23113435
It's kinda stupid how she 'needs' to apologize for something like this.

I bet Towa will be pulling out of the Ark event.

>>23113443
Sweet, morning Shion!

>>23113442
The mouse moving was whoever was screen capturing the youtube video, retard.

>>23113448
She doesn't need to, but she's definitely gonna get a lot of backlash on her next stream.

>>23113446
Something, something, are you going to talk about Towa?

>>23113445
No one cares about Luna, literally.

>>23113400
Never try to catch a falling knife

Cover? More like Over.

COCO IS CENSORING EVERYTHING
https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1235315675670904834?s=19

>>23113454
Thanks for posting this pic every thread!

>>23113400
what did Towa do?

SHAUN

>>23113457
Why didn't she get any backlash on her previous stream?

>>23113446

>>23113481
She did though. Have you seen the dislike suddenly blowing up to 500?

>>23113478
Read the previous thread.

whoa chinks, you clearly can't do much outside due to corona and your retard goverment, but dont you have your weibo shit? you can still circle jerk over there lmao

>>23113469
Isn't that the same for channels like Yudzuki Choco?

>>23113456
Anon is still right, Towa did in fact respond to him and that means he was in her room not on a call, unless she has super hearing to be able to hear a headset that far away

>>23113481
They didn't go full-retard and start censoring clips of the voices. Sure they deleted shitposty comments, but nobody expected they'd go full-retard. Everyone hoped it'd just be another Ayame non-issue.

>>23113476
I've posted it once before, but it is a very cute picture.

Korone's distressed voice and face are cute, C U T E !

>>23113499
You can talk to your discord channel though?

>>23113475
Wow what the fuck Coco.
What the actual fuck,

>>23113481
She hasn't streamed since the leak, and she privated or deleted that stream

>>23113503
Wrong thread, chink sperg.

>>23113475
>failed to save Towa
>disregarded Watame's efforts
>made fun of Luna not receiving letters
>shitting on PPTenshi's fashion sense and scammed her into contributing shekels to the Hololive House fund
it's over fourth gen is finished

>>23113482
WEEBS, STRANSLATE!

>>23113400
Are you too stupid to realize that she only ever talks about shit that the others are okay with? If Towa didn't want it mentioned then Coco isnt going to bring it up.

I see the English comment on asacoco is deleted.

The fuck is this misleading shit.

>>23113519
Of course Coco deleted it, everyone's covering it up.

Korone...

>>23113519
There's 3 english comments about it and 4 japanese comments about it so far, all are there on my end

Goddamnit Korone, you butterfingers

>>23113448
she should
if you're going to start a youtube channel and pretend to be an idol act like a fucking idol retard
if you wanna be a normal person have a normal youtube channel

KORONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>23113526
Just your usual shitty translation

and thus, korone, the cold blooded killer is born.

>>23113515
sperg doesn't care about that, anons just wanted to shit post and use the buzzword cuck.

>>23113448
It's YAGOO's fault for wanting them to be idols. If you're going to be an idol you have to act like an idol. Many times before, even Coco has insisted that they're idols. They could just be comfy V-tubers but he's insisting upon this bullshit for his business model.

Well she didn't save him but she did get the best ending where everyone survives

I don't think Towa did anything wrong but the absolute damage control over it means she thinks she did something wrong and therefore she needs to say something about it.

>>23113513
she can't do shit it's a serious business between her and her manager let's hope for good
she forget and nobody gives a shit except you she didn't made fun of her but rather encouraged fan to send fan letters and made it normal and simple
fuck ppt

She tried to help. It was the game fault.

>>23113532
Nevermind, only one japanese comment left and the streisand effect comment

damn, Korone is a blood thirsty killer.

>>23113535
ok mr. incel

>>23113546
>fuck ppt
I'm trying.

>>23113546
Whatever you say, ESL-kun.

I actually think that Towa is

Its over bros, Manechan shook Towa and is probably taking a week break or two.

I was actually enjoying miko streams and now towa has to stir shit up. What the fuck.

>>23113535
>hololive
>idols

>>23113554
But she didn't kill the other father when given the chance

>>23113576
yea thats the image they're going for and keep calling themselves

What did we learn about this?
Usedgood fags are not the target market fro Cover Corp, contrary to what Coco popularity might have lead you to believe
Hololive aims to be a proper by the book idol agency
Coco is a normal employee with no special rights meaning most of the stuff the allow her to say and do is due to the American attitude winning over the Japanese one
thus
Coco is quite the egoistical person
Coco is actually quite vulgar.

Today's news sure has more dislikes than the usual. Still small though

>>23113581
>image theyre going for
Do you even watch their streams? Even the most 'idol' like of them, which is Suisei, is barely seiso enough to be on par with an average idol.

>>23113574
Maybe this will cheer you up. Maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U-OcgLbDQ4

>>23113573
manechan frown at Towa FUCK YOU[big voice]

>>23113598
After streaming Towa got the big fack from her boyfriend

>>23113594
It's the image that YAGOO is going for.

>>23113582
Get a load of this retard

LMAO

>>23113594
>haha they have some idol RP that means I can shit your threads endlessly
It's the reasoning our local shitposters gave a few threads ago.
>It's their fault for being idols

>>23113581
Go back to the main thread nijifriend

It's a shame, Towa was doing well and streaming daily but if she even has the audacity to stream today me and the 5ch antis have got this.

>>23113605
Proofs?

>>23113597
That's some very dedicated 35P.

>>23113619
Towa is probably regretting up and leaving her company without a letter of notice, it will hurt her chances of getting it back or going for another day job

>>23113594
Why do they attract so many idolfags then?

There's literally a branch of the company called "hololive IDOL PROJECT" that deals with their idol work (live shows, music production, etc).
There's no way to say they aren't (trying to be) idols.

>>23113606
What? not enough semen on my post for you?

>>23113619
She should just openly do a collab with the guys and gave them some shitty 2d avatars.

>>23113637
Idolfags are mentally ill

Who you think got the lowest self esteem in Hololive?

So what are the chances that Towa's next stream is a retirement stream?

>>23113620
It's in the fucking name they publish their music with.
hololive IDOL PROJECT

>>23113645
Korone probably

>>23113646
She just has to shave her head like a real idol.

I still believe Coco can convince both Towa-sama and small fack manechan to do something about this incident and not just try to swipe it under the rug.

>>23113638
Proofs?

BROS LEAVE TOWA ALONE FUCK

>>23113620
>hololive
>live
>idol project
Fubuki decidedly has referred to herself and everyone as idols as well. Point is, even if their image is not idol-like, it doesn't matter if they themselves consider themselves idols. Not to mention they also do things like say "I love you" to their fans to get them to supacha more. They all know what kind of fire they're playing with (except Towa). Okayu always asks if it's okay for her to talk about things that would piss off idolfags.

>>23113646
>retirement stream
shes probably being shot out back by YAGOO while we speak

>>23113475
>I was halfsleep
Tl:I'm still butthurt over the ARK team following Miko and not me

Korone is gonna try to save oji-san.

>>23113648
Why do none of them act like idols?

>>23113597
It actually did. Thanks

yall talking like Towa's accident will be the end of hololive, while the fact that no one really care about korone & Coco already married IRL

>Hololive
>Idols
Come back when you've been nerfed like Sally was.

>>23113671
Have fun during Miko's Birthday stream.

>>23113673
I can't believe Coco married Korone

shion brought forward her stream, will go live in 15mins

Holy shit I went to bed an hour or so in and Korone is just now finishing Heavy Rain... didn't think she was going to do it in one

>>23113673
A dragon railing a dog and the bitch is the tittymonster.

You all need to stop taking month old bait that keeps recycling itself.

>>23113657
Here is the hololive About page on YouTube that specifically says "Virtual Idol Group": https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJFZiqLMntJufDCHc6bQixg/about

>>23113645
Flare
maybe Korone
Luna

>>23113645
Shion.

>>23113673
That's not really the issue at hand though, is it?
It's the fact Cover FREAKED THE FUCK OUT and went way over the top that has people pissy.
It was super dumb of them to do, they've only gave ammo to retarded antis and dramafags.

>>23113645
It's either Korone or Shion

>>23113645
haato offstream
highest self esteem is haato onstream

If anything, what YAGOO is going to feel sorry for at the end would be having given the thumbs-up to "iteractions with western fans".
Keep it up SEAniggers and ESL shitters, ignored for ever from "idols" stream would be the best outcome you can strive for.

koronet sure loves her kakoiii ojisans huh

>>23113708
Ok ESL

>>23113709
Even ojiisan left her now.

>>23113708
>makes fun of ESLs
>cant form a sentence to save his fucking life

there's something funny about korone comparing him to a toy story villain

Your haters like to dig out info on your girls as if it were gold and among your regulars there rising and visible turmoil.
>There's a fire, just do nothing lmao
Truly the worst thing to come out of industrial engineering is designing everything to prevent these kind of apes from killing themselves.

Have mercy... end the stream and let me sleep...

>>23113597
>hololive arent really idols
>This video
Keep telling yourself the majority of the fanbase arent idolfags when shit like this exists

>>23113723
It's cute though.

>>23113619
Daijobo, it was da discord and 5chfags is nothing to be afraid of.

>>23113718
needs to play detroit for BESTEST OJISAN

>>23113723
So other vtubers don't have fans? Ok.

>>23113663
More like taking yagoos shot while her boyfriends watch to teach her a lesson about what real idols are supposed to do

Why couldn't it have been Matsuri, I want Lyger to seethe.

Shion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzpaVRJ0OGw

Just how hard is 5ch seething right now?

>>23113723
When will 5ch or the chinese sperg decide to dox her fans like true idolfags?

>>23113736
シオンよ…

>>23113734
Everyone knows Matsuri is a slut, general opinion wouldnt change..

Man does watame VA really enjoy making her avater bounce all over the camera

>>23113708
Okay, send me invites discord bro.

>>23113469
I care, as much as I care for every Hololiver.
Except Mel

I don't think you guys know what an idol. The hololive girls could literally shit on each other and still be considered an idol. That fact that they seem like object of affection of the fans means that they are idols. Why do you think people got into a huge fit when there was a male character in love live?

>>23113721
Huh, the fuck are you talking about.

So whats the end goal of being an idolfag? If you spend enough money, the girl will fall in love with you and shes staying pure for you specifically?

>>23113736
good girl shion has been fixing her sleeping schedule lately!

>>23113761
what happens in the rembang room

>>23113761
Emotional connection that leads nowhere

>>23113761
It's not nice to post pictures of our resident koroneposter.

Imagine paying for sluts to blowjob someone on stream. Shaking my head senpai.

>>23113745
Like Haato vibrating

>>23113769
(you)
>>23113761

oh hey shion finally stopped wearing her NY outfit

>>23113756
It baffles me how fucking retarded the "It's hololive fault for making it more big than already is" do these retards think a fucking corporation take actions on the fucking go? are they fucking elementary school dropouts?

>>23113780
I've missed that stupid little hat.

>>23113761
The end for any real idolfag is 20 to life once they realize their idol will never love them.

>>23112902
There’s no discord sound with voice chat.

>>23113761
filling the gaping hole that is the lack of meaningful interpersonal relationships in your life

thats why only pathetic people are idolfags. if you aren't pathetic you 1.find a non-pathetic way to cope (like autistically focusing on a hobby, for example), 2. get a real gf or 3. learn not to give a fuck

>>23113763
Meanwhile good dog Korone is ruining mine.

>>23113783
Corpos are shit and all they care about is money

will youtube ever fix their shit

>>23113496
What happened with Ayame?

Nijisanji got idols, .Live got idols, Upd8 got idols, Hololive got idols, everyone got idols. Shut the fuck up about this dumb shit it not even bait anymore.

>>23113765
Stays in the rembang room

>>23113788
>learn not to give a fuck
What should the idolfags not give a fuck about?

Towa sure has been "sleeping" for a long time.

>reddit unironically defending towa

>>23113808
please be patient shes sucking dicks in the restroom

>>23113761
So whats the end goal of not being an idolfag?
Hiding from RL and taking refuge on the cutesy and lovable anime girl who can't do nothing wrong to you?
>Oh no you're wrong it was recommended to me after googling for papers for my master's thesis and I must say it the most efficient, intellectual and creative content one could spend their free time on
At least idolfags have the balls to be possessive about the thing they like after having the balls to abandon the real world.

>>23113783
Since corporations are currently killing the planet to chase short term profit yes.

I just want to watch girls enjoying games. I don't care if when they stop playing games they're being railed by dicks, but I just want some entertaining shit.

How many more years will this idolfag back and forth keep going, just enjoy those that you enjoy, if you don't then stop.
Don't be such a bitch about it.

>>23113817
What

>>23113809
who are you quoting?

>>23113809
Don't use Aniki for this.

>>23112693
Even the bassist.

will Korone hit 10 hours

>>23113817
This.

>>23113761
Idolfags are just modern version of people who pay for oiran/courtesan back in old Japan, except you don't get to fuck the lady no matter how much you're paying for her.

Imagine giving money to another man's woman and said man couldn't even get her out of her shit job.

>>23113800
She slept with little boys.

>>23113809
Show some fucking respect.

koronet really wants to save ojisan...

>>23113822
How can I enjoy Towa-sama if she'll be forced to retire?

>>23113809
Aniki would not be proud of you.

>>23113821
Don't worry it was da discord and yabee shinzo

I hope Towa learned how to code

>>23113845
Her old channel.

>>23113794
>>23113819
Welcome to the real world are you older than 12 and understand the quality of live you have right now is sustained by these things?

>>23113800
A long, dumb retarded story short, Ayame was heard playing a game with some guy while supposedly "not well" and before her subscriber celebration stream, people spread that it was her boyfriend, retarded antis got mad for a couple weeks and gave up caring, like always.
No response from any of them, no cover-up, nothing, simply ignored them and the retards went away, exactly like they should have done this time too.

>>23113817
It depends on the meaning of idolfag, if you're "abbadoning the real world" then you shouldn't care about the 3D world to begin with. But you say that while chasing the person behind the character, stalking, digging into her private life to find more, just to be disappointed they're different people.

Now if you're just a fan ot the character they crafted, the one that is actually there entertaining you, then that makes some sense.

>>23113841
Is it possible?

>>23113838
H-hot, do you have proof?

>>23113856
I don't give a fuck about the person behind the character
however in Towa's stream she was being dicked midstream with her qt avatar on

Huge respect for Korone's resilience

Korone is trying reaaaaaaaally hard to save ojisan, even if it means dooming everyone else.
Cant say I blame her, Scott was the most likeable character of the bunch.

>>23113822
From the thumbnail I thought those were very large nipples.
Disappointed.

ELITE Sui-chan
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1235323257466892290?s=19

>>23113825
I dare you to make any older than you, non-millenial male sit on one of these streams, then listen to you bitch about idolfags and them not calling you a little bitch who's no better than them

>>23113857
she has to damn atleast one of the other characters to do so

also the chick ojisan is with is still alive, so hes still screwed

if shes dead, the others dont make it to the ware house

he walks free from his crimes (although she can make ethan do all the challenges and oji san will leave them alone)

>>23113645
Flare. All the situation with her previous chuuba life escalated because she thinks very low of herself.

Im really affected by what Towa did and I dont think most of you understand how serious it is.

Not only did she spend time with MALES at her own house, but now shes lying about it as well. Ive watched every single fucking stream. Ive spent a lot on sc for her. I moved to idols like her because theyre supposed to be the best of women. Their characters are flawed, but theyre unique in their own way. It doesnt matter if theyre vulgar sometimes or princesses, they all have their unique behaciour, but theres one thing you dont do and thats have men with you. If they do that, they become defiled. Its no different to finding your girlfriend in bed with another man. Sadly its not possible to know what they do when theyre away from their computers. The thing is theyre an idol group, so they should act like such when theyre online at the very least. Dont start bringing men when you should be with your viewer. At the very least admit your mistake and ask for forgiveness. But what she did now is just disgusting. I honestly felt sick as if finding the person i love in bed with another man. Ive wasted so much on her and at the end of the day she turned out to be the same woman like the rest. Lying. Deceitful. Empty. Only looking for other men to use.

If you dont want to be an idol thats perfectly fine. Be like the rest. Live your life. Be happy. But dont pretend to be something youre not. Dont say the things you say during your streams. Dont play with your viewer. Because thats what they do for money.

I wish i could be as carefree as some of you, you seem to be happy. Good for you. But unlike you I actually care. I dont want the same to happen to other girls or other viewers.
The best what Towa could do now is issue an apology and graduate from Hololive. Until she does that i'll exercise my right to speak out. I will not dox or threaten, but i will bring this situation up, calmly, until she apologizes and leaves the IDOL organization.

>>23113854
This is gonna get off topic if it continues so here's a picture.

Holy fuck Korone is killing everyone.

Post OC.

>>23113877
Tl dr?

>>23113891
YANDERE DOGGO

>>23113856
>depends on the meaning of idolfag
It's still flabbergasting how westerners still come up with this shit, do you guys actually think that you know more about the definition of a modern idol than people from the country that fucking build it? does your mental dictionary also runs on your personal perception of the meaning of the words instead of their actual definitions?

>>23113895
Ask at discord bro.

>>23113881
Do you have fun shitposting like this?

>>23113881
based

>>23113891
Korone fucked up. Lauren is still alive and she will be the one killing him if he survives

>>23113443
>180 DIEving
Have the jokes about Suicide gone to far?

Hah, getting your jimmies rattled over a 40 year old granny, lmaoing @ (you) faggots.

>>23113488
So nothing worth talking about? Got it.

>>23113882
How strange, Kanata design is my favorite among the 4th gen yet I barely watch her streams.

Frankly, I'm glad that the Towa thing happened. I mean, I feel sorry for Towa, poor thing, this intrusion on her privacy must feel awful and the 5ch antis must suck, but I think it's a test that the nascent vtuber industry, and popular conception, need to go through. It's the kind of thing that lets us answer questions like: what are vtubers, anyways? Are they idols? The Niji girls get along with dudes all the time, and even get shipped together. Will the vtuber community split into idol vtubers and streamer vtubers? These are important points that haven't really been challenged up till now.

I've long said that the appeal of vtubers to this new generation of otaku was, in large part, how relaxed and candid they are. When we think about defining traits of vtuber culuture, chuubas and their てえてえ, I think a lot of it comes down to how genuine they can be with their audience, compared to most forms of Japanese mass media, which misses a lot of that personal connection. As opposed to Japanese idols, who have their private lives on display constantly, and therefore cannot be all that close or personal because they have no room to hide from backlash. Chuubas can use their avatars as a shield, so how do fans react to this? Are chuubas, even when their private lives are hidden from us, not on display, expected to behave the same as idols? Then why bother with the mask in the first place? Is the chuuba a character, or the actress? Which is the point of fixation?

These are all really important questions, and answers develop during situations like this. A dumb rookie slipup that puts the whole business model at stake.

One thing that immediately comes to light, though, is that despite how condescending /jp/ is toward EOPs, these supposed (Bilinguals) end up reacting in a different way to the Japanese, in a very western fashion. There's outrage, yes, but it points to a different view of celebrity. The Japanese see their idols not as surrogate girlfriends so much as daughters. These are young girls - often very young. Your job as the fan is to nurture them. When you get angry, its anger over misbehavior. Being with a man is as bad as alcohol or smoking. But here, it's more like a lover's betrayal. It's more reminiscent of pic related than anything the Japanese usually get up to.

>>23113881
Literally you.

Towa should have known how retarded idolfags can be, letting this shit happened shows how incompetent she is as a chuuba
Although being deeply disappointed I really hope she learns her lesson

>>23113854
It turns out I a random dude on 4chan don’t have any control over what a few greedy, shortsighted people who have bought the politicians and military/police do.

>>23113900
Anon "Idolfag" is a western term, x + fag is culture from this website, it can mean just someone that likes that thing for example, and I find nothing wrong with someone liking to watch some cute girls sing or dance, but it's pretty obvious that in these threads, the meaning of "idolfag" changes all the time depending on the shitposter and their current target.

Enjoyin Suisei's streams and wishing her luck in chasing her dream to become a virtual star is quite different from desperately trying to find who she is IRL then shitposting in these threads endlessly about it.

>>23113809
Billy would defend Towa, now fuck off

>>23113869
Are you okay

https://twitter.com/NLO74593630/status/1235324470476275713

Not calling yourself and idol group would fix all the problems.

>>23113915
Her karaoke streams are pretty good.

>>23113931
To late now, we already too deep and yabee.

I fucking want Korone to play Metal Slug X RIGHT NOW

>>23113916
Cringe
>>23113881
Based

>>23113931
Mods actually banning shitposter would fix all our problems

Wasn't Towa's video taken down due some privacy policy? It had somebody else's voice and all.

>>23113931
Not yuri baiting should help as well if they don't want fans like these

>>23113944
yea i'm sure thats the reason

>>23113910
It's a desperate call for help.

>>23113947
/u/ coming here is the last thing /jp/ would need.

>yabe...
What did he mean by this?

>>23113955
/u/ already comes here

>>23113958
EOP...

Korone messed up everything.

Why did haachama schedule a solo stream for a coop game?

>>23113947
KaeMito is still the most popular ship ever, Anon. Interacting with males or not doesn't change anyhing, it's all about their chemistry with each other.

>>23113931
>>23113947
So just become nijisanji? No thanks.

>>23113958
EOP-kun...

>>23113958
いや！危ない！

I forgot how shitty heavy rain was

>>23113921
Shitposting about someones real life identity is the opposite of what an idolfag would be doing. Spreading information that could lead to damaging outcomes for the person they support makes no sense. They might potentially seek that information out for themselves but it really isn't relevant.

Idolfag makes the most sense as a term as being anyone with a lot of dedication and support towards a partcular idol or vtuber in this context. But with the added implication that the individual in question buys into the wider culture of expectations of an idol of purity and so on and applies that to vtubers.

>>23113947
Lets be honest. Yuri bait doesnt help, but even if its gone theres so much lolicon/pedo bait and pandering that it would still be a problem.

Everything would be fine if you just treat vtubers as fictional characters. Then again people still sperg out about harem endings

>>23113964
It's gonna be a lot of fun if this leads Korone down the David Cage game path

>>23113931
>>23113968

Music oriented Vtubers would work.

>>23113965
Haachama is so charismatic she can play coop games by herself and still have fun

>>23113958
It's the thing the japanese man says when he is about to cum. Yeah you just heard him cum into Towa-sama's mouth live on stream.

>>23113964
She already got the good ending, shes just wanna see the others.

>>23113961
I do, and if Towa is the subject, I only hope Roboco gets cute with her again to support her in this difficult situation and we get some cute art out of it.

>>23113968
One idolfag spotted.

>>23113954
Even the Bots have become Suicidal

>>23113968
Nijisanji goes harder on the yuri 10x more than Hololive Anon.

Everyone keeps shit-talking Towa but no one gives a fuck about Haato playing GTA5 with CUTE GUY

>>23113968
Nijisanji has a lot of benefits over hololive. They just haven't branded as efficiently or nurtured talent as well.

>>23113973
Japanese idolfags, again, treat their idols like daughters. They don't want to hurt them, but if they do something out of line they want to reprimand them. In the west, it feels like idol fans, or I guess these Idol fans, are more like twitch thot orbiters.

I'm not saying there's no "true" Japanese styled idolfags, or that the Japanese idolfags don't overreact either, but it's something of a different reaction. Maybe there's just different kinds of idolfags and using an all encompassing term to play no true scotsman is silly. This is where kimota works much better.

>>23113916
I always appreciate your thoughts on these things.

>>23113967
go back

>>23113996
We all know she's getting ploughed by Aussie Chads every day no one cares bro

>>23113996
Haato is upfront about it
Towa is a lying slut

I was wrong to think anons beaten this dead horse to death last thread, how long will this dumbass topic last?

>>23113947
Yuri baiting always feels so fake. I like when chuubas are friends, but you know there isn't anything more than that. Sometimes there is even less and it can end suddenly like they never cared in first place.

Which Hololive would you yabe...?

>>23114005
A couple of days would be my guess.

>>23114000
No.

I suggest you read the Japanese twitter reactions to this and doing more research into idol culture.

>>23114007
Buying your chuba voicepacks saying they love you feels fake too but you don't see me berating you

>>23113997
The people posting that information are just trying to stir up shit in these threads. They aren't some kind of super dedicated fan looking to punish someone they are feeling wronged by, just someone looking for yous. It isn't related in the slightest.

I can't believe korone is a pleb with such shit taste that she liked heavy rain. I feel betrayed.

The general thread sure is quiet now, I wonder why.

>>23114005
Until Towa apologizes or Coco one ups her and gets blacked live on asacoco.

>>23113997
>Japanese idolfags, again, treat their idols like daughters.
Yeah, sure, and they totally don't want to sleep with them.

At this time I always find find towa live playing games her laugh makes the day better
I missed her Bros ...

>>23114020
ded fad
ded thred

>>23113948
that's pretty rude Luna

>>23114007
Straight ships last even less for me, if you watch from the guy's perspective you can at least go "haha my boy has so many girlfriends" you know, even though he didn't interact with most of them in months, but from the girl's just feels empty. But shipping is just all in good fun, you should not take anything in this hobbie that seriously.

The best vtubers to ship are the ones that enjoy the shipping themselves, not about "they totally fucking irl" but being friends and having fun with that just as much as the fans do.

>>23114021
why do you love black dick anon?

>>23114024
Thats exactly what fathers do with their daughters in Japan. The amounts of child abuse which is also usually sexual abuse is absurd in Japan, considering it should be 1st world.

So, how was Luna's ASMR?

>>23114016
That's fake too but at least some of the money might go to the chuuba

>>23114018
She enjoys every game so much. I wish I could too. But at least I had fun watching her.

>>23114021
you are mentally ill anon

>>23114014
Whats the tag

>>23114032
PekoMiko is the best

>>23114045
He says, as he posts itt

What's going on with Rushia's stream yesterday? Some guy mentions in the comment about 59分の「こん…」を言わないようにお願いします。主がお願いしていたので守りましょう
Also her irl twitter posted: いくら頑張っても成果ないともう無理やよな( •́ω•̀ )マイナスになるような噂たてたりする人のせいで頑張りが無駄になるならなんもできぬ～！
Does anyone know what's going on?

>>23114016
Nijisanji has yuri baiting voicepacks.
https://nijisanji.booth.pm/items/1843966

>>23114038
Lots of kissing

>>23114039
So they yuribait for no reason, I generally try to get along, I don't really see why you are trying to pick a fight here

>>23113948
Yeah. It would be better if she said a sweet little lie, like him being a member of her band and she being a lesbian. Everything is fucked now.

Anyway no need for panic since the idolfags as myself will just ignore her and the normals will keep watching her videos, see Ayame for example.
>>23113967
KaeMito are fake as fuck, go shill nijisanji on /v/.
>>23113996
Cute imaginary* guy.

>>23114038
she had no idea what she was doing
it was cute

Shion didn't realize the game was a pun on Diving until just now, and broke into laughter for a solid 20 seconds.

I love genuine moments like that.

Its over bros, I'm having nightmares of Towa retiring and selling her body off to random strangers

>>23114055
Those don't seem related.

>>23114073
She's been doing that already for a long time now anon.
What do you think her job was before?

>>23113866
>Scott
>likeable
He is the biggest and most painful idiot. The whole plot of the game couldn't even happen if he wasn't such an idiot

Towa just wake up and is retweeting fan art

What percentage of Anons actually cares about the Towa problem?

Smile protected, Coco is the heart of Hololive

>>23114076

Is our voice part of our body?

>>23113866
ignore this >>23114084 for some reason I confused Scott and Ethan

>>23114062
Only because you want to see it that way. I also like to see girls being cute with each other.

Reminder that theres a big, no, theres a 100% chance that the chuuba you love watching so much has a guy sitting near her as she streams. They both laugh at the comments you leave her in her supa chat. You can try to cope that your girl is pure all you want, but thats the simple fact,and you know it to be true.

>>23114069
she's still in elementary school, after all. you need to be patient with her!

>>23114038
I'm listening to it now and it's weirdly hot.

>>23114084
Which should put into perspective how fucking unlikable is everyone else.

>>23114035
I'm sorry what point are you trying to make exactly, then?

Japanese Idol fans don't want to hurt them, they just want to treat them like daughters. Daughters that they sexually abuse to an absurd degree?

Anyone on twitter could tell me what their autocomplete suggestions for トワ are?

>>23114099
>>23114069
Shion is like Aqua minus the 中二病 , the more I watch her the more I really enjoy her clueless moments.

>>23114097
I'll keep enjoying my fake relationships without being constantly reminded that they are fake then

>>23114104
Abusers never see what they do as abuse.

>>23114088
I find the reactions to the situation all round amusing and interesting while feeling somewhat bad for towa but I don't care about it at all in the sense of being upset or mad.

>>23114106
>トワ
トワ 男
トワ 事故
トワ 炎上

>>23114113
What's going on in this image?

>>23114038
fun, give it a try

>>23114106
トワイライトプリンセス

>>23114088
I care in the sense that retarded shitposters and antis are going to be derailing the threads for months using this non-issue and dumb idiots will keep replying to them.

Lol, Towa just hit 75000. It didn't even matter.

>>23114129
The discord bans all discussions about this i think. Try going there if you need a more relaxing and safer space to talk.

>>23114088
I mostly hope she won't suffer any serious consequences because of it.

Does anyone have a webm of Towa's kareshi reveal?

>>23114131
Wait till she streams. It will be at least 60/40 likes/dislikes.

>>23113444
I love this dragon.

It hurts. Every time I close my eyes I see those two men pleasuring Towa-sama In ways that I never could.

>>23114138
Check the last thread

>>23114117
>>23114128
Thanks I never post anything on there and mine were
トワ 男
トワ 男声

>>23114098
Well, of course. Only retards get into this expecting purity.

>>23114139
Nah, the fans will overwhelming like to overtake the dislikes I bet.

>>23114139
The "idolfag" boogeyman (aka 5ch antis) has a power of 200 dislikes max usually.

>>23114098
Nobody is coping about purity here faggot, I honestly think that you should directly complain in twitter, 5ch and 2ch.

>>23114144

OK. So no webm.

>>23114151
Wasnt her last stream at 600 peak?

Good thing I only watch stinky homos like Aqua

>>23113877
I haven't seen any of the rl streams of her supposed past life, and nothing about drama, but I don't think thats actually her since theres pretty much nothing to base it off of besides autotuned MVs

>>23114052
Good taste, they're super fun whenever they're together, it's a really fun ship.

>>23114088
I dont really care and I find the nips obsession for their idols creepy as fuck... That being said, I'm having a blast making fun of Towafags.

feeling sad that my japanese writing powers aren't strong enough to get into twitter flamewars without making a fool of myself

>>23114157
Nope, it was around 200

>>23114133
What the fuck, where's my freedom of speech and expression? Fucking deleted.

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36460416

>>23114148
I only expect no malice, if you know what kind f job you're taking and are honest and sincere in the sense that you realize you're pretty much robing a lot of money you didn't actually work to earn, the least I expect is them not laughing at me for being such a pathetic loser who endorses that, for those I better sign out and go take on RL as normal.

>>23114145
>Thanks I never post anything on there
neither do i, i just use it to follow cute korean boys

>>23114159
Those shitty 中の人 blogs have been missing by a huge margin on Flare's VA.

>>23113881
>The thing is theyre an idol group, so they should act like such when theyre online at the very least.
I... actually agree with this part, fuck like a whore offstream if you want and do whatever you feel like, but on stream you should focus on why you took up the job and do it correctly, having your bf around when youre live is bad manners, not even nijisanji streamers do that as far as I'm aware, just bad manners

>>23114143
Damn, those two are professional in finger gymnastics. I will never compare.

>>23114173
Because no one gives enough of a shit about Flare to do a proper dox.

>>23114157
It depends on the game, her Pokemon and Yoshi streams are not that popular, but the APEX stream peaked at around 3600.

>>23114171
Not even 1 Aqua worth of IQ was used to make this post.

>>23114178
And that's a blessing.

>>23114179
I am an idiot, I thought you were talking about viewers.

>>23114179
I meant peak dislikes because of who i replied to, but i still should of specified that. My bad.

>>23114171
Quite conceited to think they're laughing at you specifically.

>>23114088
we now know they have mods too lazy to delete bots but can delete comments related to her quickly.

>>23114098
How do you even counter this argument?

>Towa kills herself
>Flare is dying
Blessed ARK week.

I'm really liking how /hg/ taking the drama because we all know that TOWA FUCKS NIGGERS TOWA FUCKS NIGGERS TOWA FUCKS NIGGERS

>>23113973
No, doxing chubas and digging into their personal lives and stalking is exactly what idolfags do, idolfag

>>23114088
I don't even know what happened.

The smelliest chuubas are usually the purest ones

>>23114203
Antis =/= idolfags
Lurk more

this looks like a fucking /b/ thread

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1235323257466892290

https://lagcapa.org/

Good collection of vtuber related info.

>>23113809
>Shitposters use Billy just to stir more shit
Aight, you stepped WAY out of line sir.

>>23114171
Are you agreeing with this anon
>>23114174 ?
I am.

Damn, Towa is in Aqua team right?

>>23114210
I was expecting "Tokoyami Towa has graduated from hololive."

>>23114206
Towa was streaming APEX, then she took a short break. During the break her mic wasn't muted and there were some male voices broadcasting, including one mentioning how the mic wasn't muted. The implication was that there were men in her house, which is a big no-no for idolfags. For most rational people this on it's own isn't a problem, but the issue is that she's going full damage control over it, the archive was set to private and she went to sleep right after the stream at 8:30, despite having tweeted that morning about sleeping in until 11 AM, and she hasn't said anything since then aside from retweeting art. All she had to do was just handle the situation instead of trying to hide everything.

Does Haatochama really fuck dogs?

>>23114174
You aren't her employer, and you don't even pay her
you just donate

>>23114231
Yes, she talked about it on her twitcast but deleted the archive because of backlash.

>>23114230
True it's only making herself seems suspicious or 'guilty' of something. But what do the viewers expect ? She doesn't live for them.

>>23114231
Yes. Im her pitbull.

>>23113916
I don't think it is really as quite as different as you make out. A good deal of the reaction I have read in Japanese is things you might classify as comments that would be directed towards someone people think is viewed as a surrogate girlfriend by their fans. People making jokes at the expense of fans saying things like otaku giving her superchat money to use for condoms in the comments sections of reuploads.

>>23114188
Not me specifically but I don't see a limit on how much you can donate, generally, if a entity[name it a particular person or a group] starts pouring thousands onto someone without a proper compensation through a third party and no one stops it or talks about it then, in the end, all you have is a corporation a heartless employee and a fool.
Certainly not something you would actively seek.

>>23114233
wtf??? proof??

>>23114234
I mean, the expectation for Japanese idols literally is to live for the fans, shit can get crazy.

>>23114208
Assertion =/= truth
Protest less

>>23114239
2ch

>>23114230
well it's not entirely her fault with regards to damage control
probably just following the useless manechan's instructions

>>23114238
Well, I can slightly understand where you're coming from now.

>>23113597
Miko is ELITE!

>>23114234
The fact that there's as much damage control going on (Superchat comments on Asacoco mentioning Towa were being deleted) means that either Towa or Hololive in general thinks there's a problem, which in itself is the problem. If everything went on buisness as usual then it'd be a few antis pretending like it's a big deal and being ignored and that's it. Instead it's prime to blow up into some sort of huge deal and we might see Towa getting super depressed over fucking up and wanting to take a break.

>yeah my brother was visiting and I forgot to mute lol sorry
how does that not even occur to people

>>23114251
I've watched this scenario unfold so many time before, businesses never learn.

>>23114231
>>23114233
>>23114239
Technically she didn't say she "fucked" a dog, she said she let a dog eat her out once.

>>23114254
Towa must have panicked as hell. And letting time pass only makes the snowball roll and keep growing.

>>23114263
Korone why did you do this...

http://ntrblog.com/archives/1077117302.html
Towa...

>>23114216
Yes, as a adult you are responsible for managing and maintaining your workplace clean and free of objects and situations that would cause problems for your or your coworkers performance and since they're being paid for creating a persona outside their personal life and INSIDE this kind of industry the least I can expect is them to be self-aware, this isn't school anymore, they need to be serious about their job.

>>23114250
Korone is the real E L I T E tho, being able to marathon games on a regular basis, while Miko can only do it once or twice a year.

>>23114273
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>23114263
dogs count as masturbation
It would be silly to feel betrayed, wouldn't it?

This Towa stuff is just a ploy for her to overtake Luna. People will be mad at her for a bit then the white knight cucks will come at full force trying to defend her which will get her more subs

>>23114230
Coco's hololive house is a 300iq move, none of this would have happened if they lived there

>>23114273
>これも強がりで本心は胸が抉られるような思いなんや

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>23114280
I'm starting to think that you koronefags might be more autisitc than the dog herself.

>>23114280
That 11 hour GTA Online casino stream was great though.

Do you think Korone could get something like the Miko birthday video? Those 35P are really dedicated you know...

>>23114291
thanks

>>23114273
HOLY SHIT

>>23114273
Towa has conquered the NTR market.

>>23113997
You don't know the idol fandom if you think this is the most case. Most of them want to fuck their idols. I have been there with that fanbase, don't ask what idol i support that time. Even the old man want to fuck them. Have I mention even the girls want to fuck them? Though most of them simply want to love their oshi as a love partner.
You'll find some oddball who treat them like daughter or some oddball act like a producer to make them perfect from time to time, but those people are rare. Most of them are supporting for a form of pseudo love. This reality of what idolfagging is.
When they less likely to look their oshi as a love partner despite supporting her, that means their fanbase is far from idolfags. Of course the ammount of idolfags in the fanbase is related to what kind of media their oshi is delivering, whats the common culture of that media, and how well their management effort to fend of them if they care (since idolfag brings a lot of money to the table usually). The thing that you say about most of them treating their oshi like a daughter should be an example successfully fending off idolfags, not an example of idolfags.

I'm going off-thread topic but this is an example of how successful nijis fending off idolfags https://youtu.be/eZfBesWFFc8 .
The failed example would be Haruhi's VA who originally a vocalist, got backlash from voice actress idolfags because they found out she fucks her band mbers, which is kind of a common band culture back in early 2000s.

>>23114280
https://twitter.com/snow_water/status/1230768151035400193
Bow down to the real elite

>>23114203
An idolfag might possibly want to find that information out for themselves but equally they might be the type that prefers the illusion created by the avatar to remain intact. Idolfags are the kind of people that drop thousands in superchat you know, the kind of people that buy hundreds of copies of a single album just to support. They aren't just going around intentionally seeking to damage the person they support for no reason. There is already another term for those people whose intent is solely malicious.

>>23114292
We'll have to wait till Korone's birthday to find out, but I'm sure The fingerless gang will come up with something.