/jp/ - Otaku Culture

What the fuck

>Yes, i PAINTed this.
Well, your japanese knowledge is already higher than that of the average /jp/edo.

Well, you go find a school that teaches Japanese. You will make friends who will motivate you to continue your Japanese learning and possibly find Japanese friends too, they might help you with your Japanese.

Try to learn as many kanji as you can, then read read read. After that, try to find japanese programming which contains japanese subtitles, especially with furigana.

And if you can, find a native japanese speaker and practice conversing with them.

Remember to look things up in the dictionary: http://www.edrdg.org/cgi-bin/wwwjdic/wwwjdic?1C

Don't forget to practice verb and adjective conjugations.

good luck aniki

>>2305976
i attend a school already and they dropped their japanese class last year, i'd rather not spend any money either

>>2305996

Enjoy not learning Japanese the right way then.

>>2306000
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>2306000
>classes
>right way
lol

My school only offered French, Spanish, and Punjabi. What the fuck.

Don't listen to these fags. First start with the kana. Then, watch 1200 anime series to familiarize yourself. Then start with the kanji.

>>2306008
Tsumaran? whats that?

>>2306029
Short for つまらない

>>2305949
forget these guys. you should go watch as much chinese shows as you can since japanese is based on chinese. then it'll be easy to learn japanese.

I'm doing it the AJATT way:

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/

So, I'm starting with learning the basic 2042 (or is it 2046?) kanji. I'm at 475 right now. Good luck, OP.

why do I hear people here advocate learning kanji first then grammer what kind of backward learning is that

>>2306061
If I were to redo my Japanese learning I think learning them side-by-side would be best, kanji are lifesavers at times

/jp/ paint thread?

>>2306067

I can't imagine not learning them side by side because many readings stick in my brain through their grammatical usage.

but hey lots of people here seem to use heisig and other mnemonic tricks so if it works go wild.

>>2306068

Anyone know of any computer software that teaches japanese quite well?
something like rosetta stone-or if you have used that just say if its good

>>2306129
Have you tried the Rosetta Stone program?

>>2306129
Rosetta stone sucks, don't get it.

>>2306127
>よみずらい
ಠ_ಠ

>>2306135
What is bad about Rosetta Stone? I've never used it, but it sure is hyped a lot. Then again, hype =/= quality.

no i havent tried the rosetta stone program, i was mainly asking how it worked, i hear its just pictures w/o translations. im really only doing this because i have nothing to do with my free time and i would like to do something that would ACTUALLY help my future.

>>2306149
You won't learn shit with it. It just throws sentences with pictures at you and expects you to dissect the sentence yourself.

ok so, no rosetta stone, you know i have been using the Japanese Coach DS game, it got me as far as i am in 2 days, its just i find it hard to remember the Hiragana, i made a cheat sheet >_>

>>2306027
Self quoting myself because this is some awesome advice.

>>2306166
The easiest way I find to remember Kana is to repeatedly write them out. Or flash cards. Depends on who you are.

>>2306027
i dont yet know the difference of any of it, and i dont watch alot of anime

I started with Rosetta Stone, realized that I wasn't really understanding anything after like 1-3 months of use (bad memory, cant recall when I stopped using it) and now I am using various sites to build my vocab and some books for grammar. So far it's much better. I am focusing more on the vocab than the grammar, but I feel like knowing words is more important...since you can puzzle out clues from context.

Oh, yeah, and I learned hiragana and futakana after I quit Rosetta Stone (cause rosetta stone is quite horrible in that respect).

HEY LISTEN HERE
try realkana.com thats what I use to cram the maenings of the kana into my skullface. It's like online flash cards.

>>2306186
>futakana
wut

so what i have so far is:

make note cards for hiragana
screw rosetta stone
and read like a little narutard..

>>2306196

I second that...why the hell did I type that...I think I saw "Futaba" as I was typing it or something? Forgive me my /jp/ brethren, I have erred.

>>2306202

if you want to help me put the damn translations and spell it out as well.

>>2306219
take it easy!

the two main resources i used were:

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/
http://www.japanesepod101.com

the latter was used to listen to native speaking since i could never find a person to converse with

>>2306223
fine. but really, actually try to help or don't post as if you were on /b/

>>2306196
Trap kana, in other words.

No, you cannot ever unsee the penis.

>>2306271
おちんちん

>>2306291
Fuck. Can't unsee.

While we're on the subject of learning, does anyone have links to any good books/sites for drawing?

>>2306303

http://rapidshare.com/files/146235528/All_about_Particles.rar

僕の彼女は日本です。 Thats pretty much how I learned as much as I have lol

>>2306328

Lies. Enjoy your hand.

>>2306333
Don't need to enjoy my hand anymore ^_^ My friends and family were all surprised when we hooked up. Getting married too. I'm going to have to meet her parents in Japan this summer for them to approve. Thats going to be the hard part.

>>2306328
俺も

>>2306328
Your girlfriend is Japan?

>>2306328
what's it like, dating an entire country?

>>2306328

There's a dude with one in my class and he's such a smug alpha nerd prick ugh I wanna punch him so hard

>>2306356
>>2306357
yeah meant to say 日本ぎん。 i noticed that after i pressed submit

>>2306350

You should schedule the parent-meeting trip so you can go to comiket.

>>2306328
Then you haven't learnt much. The word you're looking for is 日本人。 You simply said your girlfriend is Japan.

>>2306363

ぎん？　lol whatever 101 student

>>2306363
You're still doing it wrong.

>>2306363
lmao, correcting myself again.
日本じん
not ぎん

>>2306373

just get out.

not that good at typing (obviously) , a bit better at talking

>>2306367
>learnt

たぶん英語もっと勉強するんだな。

>>2306385
Sorry pal, but learnt is a word too. Not everyone here speaks American English.

>>2306373
This is a sufficiently subtle troll. Take notes, faggots.

youtube
nama-sensei
YOU BITCH

japanese girlfriend... bad japanese usage...

damn, I can still fall for this shit

俺は日本

boku no nihongo wa hidoi desu. :(

>>2306328
＞僕の手は日本人です。

fixed.

>>2306439
at least figure out how to use kana

>>2306474
アイ・シンック・ユアー・ミイン・・・「僕の彼女は右手です」

>>2306474
My hand is Japanese? Nice try pal.

>>2306385
>たぶん英語もっと勉強する「ん」だな。

Can someone please elaborate on the ん? Unless, maybe it's short for の? I don't know.

>>2306498
i do know how. not my computer :p

>>2306538
It's Japanese, that's how it works. Nothing to elaborate on.

>>2306408
俺わ日本

ＯＰ：僕は日本人と結婚したい。

>>2306538
「－んだ」は東北弁なまりでがんす。

>>2305949
hang out in chatrooms. thats what i did.

Excalibur has a message for all in this thread who think taking classes is a bad way to learn Japanese:
ばかめ！

漢字を使え、お前ら

lol @ all the bokus

>>2306699
I lol'd.

>>2306699
>>2306710
samefag

>>2306699
Everyone knows watashi sounds feminine and "ore wa nippon" plus the general feeling of ore being used to sound like an idiot or a braggart stops them from using that. Boku is sort of a middle ground.

>>2306699

「私」は女の人の感じがあるだろう

>>2306723
Well, looks like "everyone" needs to learn more about Japanese before opening their mouths. Watashi is NOT feminine. It's the standard, polite way of speaking to complete strangers and superiors.
Atashi, on the other hand, is casual and feminine, sort of a female version of boku.
Finally, ore doesn't make someone look like an idiot or braggart. It's just completely improper to use it around anyone other than friends or family.

「私」は礼儀ある大人であれば男女問わず使うが
お前らに似合ってるのは「俺」だろ
ショタ気取りたいなら「ボク」-これはカタカナじゃなきゃだめだ

>>2306291
うぐうー

>>2306759
Watashi is used much more often by females. Get over it. This board is extremely casual, so we don't need to be super polite with watashis and sans and masus.

Protip: That AJATT nigger is probably one of the most motivated and hardworking guy you'll meet on the internets and you're not him, being anonymous you're probably unmotivated faggots with short attention span. Get a class if you're serious about learning the language, keeps you on track if nothing else. You can quit when you're able to pass JLPT 3 and hopefully by then you'd be competent enough in the language to pick up the harder parts easily on your own.

Cool Greeting in Japanese

English : "Hi, Guys!"
Japanase : "おいカス共、今からお前達全員をミンチにしてやる"

>>2306778
Watashi is used equally by males and females in real Japanese speech in Japan. Your impressions of first person pronoun use in Japanese obviously come from internet tough guys here and anime, and those impressions do not reflect the reality of modern Japan, which is what I was talking about.

>>2306778
Pop culture does not have final say on the daily usage of Japanese by a native Japanese.

>>2306798
ミンチでなに？

>>2306806
>>2306766

I'm up to 990 kanji with heisig's book... I just learned the kanji for poop n pee pee YESSssss!

大便　小便

>>2306816
で＝！は

>>2306830
>>2306816
ミンチ -Minced meat

>>2306826
大便＝うんこ、小便＝おしっこ

>>2306826

That's as formal and awkward as it gets as far as poop and pee goes.

中文比日文好学多了，语法都没有。
我们应该都学中文！

Not Op but I also wish to start learning as well I own the Living Language Complete Japanese course. Anyone know if this is a good start?

大便＝
(ﾉ･∀･)ﾉ=●ｳﾝｺｰ!!
●ヽ(ﾟ∀ﾟヽ)ｳﾝ-ｺｰ♪ﾖｲﾔｻｰﾖｲﾔｻｰ♪(ノﾟ∀ﾟ)ノ●
●ヽ(ﾟ∀ﾟ)ﾉ● ｳﾋｮｰ ! ｳﾝｺｲﾀﾀﾞｷﾏｰｽ

>>2306849
let's not

>>2306816
「ミンチミート」の訳

中文死了

ですですですですですですですですですですです～

です、ですですです、なにですですです。。。

ですです！！！

>>2306867
;_;

>>2306852
No, I started with them and got nowhere. Classes are the best way to start but if you're a stubborn faggot and think you can actually get anywhere on your own I'd suggest Genki.

>>2306806
You're crazy. "俺" is the most commonly used casual first person pronoun among Japanese males.

>>2306905
ﾌﾟｷﾞｬ━━━━≡≡≡≡≡⊂`⌒m9^Д^)⊃━━━━!!!!!!

かめはめは！！！！

>>2306849
你应该去⑨学校。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgZyrmvP9jk

>>2306905
Did you even bother reading the post? When did it say it was exclusively dealing with casual speech? In real Japanese, you will NEVER be dealing with just formal or just casual speech. For example, the average Japanese college student will use sonkeigo towards his professors or administrators, keigo towards other employees there (like advisors or counselors) or people he's just meeting for the first time, then casual speech around friends and family. All of these different levels of politeness can and will be used within minutes of each other, and each level requires a different first person pronoun.

>>2306947
Yea, except this is 4chan. A place like this, watashi would come off as more feminine.

>>2306947
helo and welcome to my web sight

>>2306967
Not feminine, but rather formal

あら―おやつの時間だわ

楽しみなさい

>>2306967
「私」は女性の感じるがあると、「アタシ」を使おうよ！

頭が悪い

>>2307316
男性の感じるが欲しくないから。

アタシはセイム・ファグです。でも、スパマーじゃないわ。　アタシのカキ
コが気高いし、楽しんでらっしゃい～

>>2307318
アタシの頭良い。ア!(*￣○￣)(￣о￣*)ホ!!ー

とにかく、あんたの頭より良いｗｗ

なんか凄い事になっとるなぁ
とりあえず頑張れ。