/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I am looking forward to the releasing of Dies irae and playing it.

I've never seen big-dicked eroge protagonists.
Have I not read enough eroge yet?

>>22963683
Babby's first rapist Rance has a big dick so yes you haven't.

>>22963754
>he thinks Rance has a big dick
yikes

dicklet detected

>>22963683
Demonbane is infamous for this
https://exhentai.org/s/aa96082668/1000000-232

>>22963764
Bitch, I was merely stating a fact.

>>22963792
I actually enjoyed Demonbane's sex scenes and was sad they got canonically pruned.

>>22964273
Bait, but what the hell. A black MC would just be treated as a walking token dildo and will only exist as a novelty of exoticism that would piss off the libtard even further if they caught wind of this.

Same applies if the MC was a Chink, Gook or a Mudslime. Powder keg ideas that aren't worth it.

>>22964273
>interracial romantic comedy
Like, romantic comedy that's specifically based on it being interracial? What could that even be beyond cheap racist gags?

>>22964295
I think he wants it to be something like Kiniro Loveriche, but in chocolate form.

How many lines per day is is acceptable to read in a VN?

>>22964435
1000 - 2000, probably.

>>22964435
One. If you read any more you're going too fast to appreciate the work.

>>22964445
What if I can do only about 500-600 and it's a hard VN like Dies irae with uneven line difficulty? I hope I will improve quicker while reading it and be able to pull of 1000 - 2000 as you recommend.

>>22964435
Bit of a pointless question without a more specific timeframe, isn't it? There's a difference between the guy who reads 1000 lines over 23 hours and 59 minutes and the guy who reads 800 lines in an hour then calls it a night and goes to sleep, even if the former 'reads more'.

>>22964590
Is there really a difference? We're on /jp/... Might as well assume everyone is reading eroges 23.9/7

>>22964592
I only read eroge after dropping my daughters off at school, a hard day of work, picking them up from school, going home, cooking dinner for my family, talking to everyone about their day and spending time with them at night, going to bed, and sexually satisfying my wife until she faints from exhaustion, leaving me an hour to read moege before I go to sleep.

>>22964445
Is this bare minimum acceptable or the average?
Because that's around how much I'm pulling off and I was hoping to reach higher counts as I get better in japanese
At this rate it'll take me a decade to finish my bscklog

are people actually counting the lines they read per day? Sounds like some DJT shit.

Jesus christ talk about unreadable menu
Atleast in game text is readable thankfully

>>22965298
I'm recommending glasses, that isn't even remotely unreadable.

>>22964890
Anon, no one ever finishes their backlog.

>>22967287
sad

>>22963823
>canonically pruned
wat

>>22964890
Once you've read a few VNs, you'll adapt to them. That means a few things:

-You'll love ctrl. The mentally of "never skipping unread text" won't last long, given the padding issues the medium is known for.
-You learn to skim through text. Stuff isn't that interesting? Speed up. Some go so far to even completely ignore narration in some games, where narration padding is particularly bad.
-You'll skip most ero scenes, and only read those you "use". This will make routes a lot shorter. Main exception would be ero heavy plot games, where that can go wrong.
-You won't even read all routes. In many games it's just not worth it, even regardless of potential route enforcement. (->ctrl is your friend) Enforcement is rarely well done and necessary. Way too many games enforce a route last, because you are supposed to read it last. But you don't need to know anything about the previous routes whatsoever.

All of this is basically entirely necessary if you wanna be a little experimental, which you should be. That way you'll find the best things.
Of course, the games will still be long. It's easy to underestimate how long they are, given how many get released. They are usually full games, that'll last you a while.

>>22968504
When does that start happening? I've been reading VNs for three years now and I don't do any of that, nor do I ever intend on doing it.
If I find some content boring or not worth reading I'd rather just drop the entire game, skipping through everything and pretending you actually finished the game sounds pretty retarded, might as well drop the entire medium if that's how you feel about the majority of eroge.

>>22968504
Well that's a bit silly. I've played way too many games with the "it'll probably get much better later on" mindset and suffered from that when they've failed to meet even that expectation, skip or no skip. Games that have most of their content being light-hearted SoL with maybe minor foreshadowing in the mix, finally ending with a shorter and more serious real deal part are usually the worst offenders in that regard. Especially if the former isn't good enough to beat a good moege, and you already know beforehand shit's gonna go down, so you'd just prefer the plot to get on with it. Nowadays I try to prevent myself from indulging in sunk cost fallacy and just drop boring games altogether. Much better to just play stuff you'd enjoy instead rather than power through a game in the hopes it'll become good.

>>22968504
I read about 20 times faster than most of the rest of you - with the exception of a few bibliophiles. What is a true chore, taking up tens of hours for you, might very well only be a short eight to ten hours for me. Reading that fast - whether in English or Japanese - gives me a greatly different perspective than a lot of the others here.
My stamina for reading in general and reading VNs in particular is far higher than the rest of you. Fundamentally, the idea of breaking a VN up over the course of weeks or months is alien to me, since even the longest ones will only take me about thirty hours (even in a busy week, I can usually manage to squeeze that in during breaks and meals).
Because VNs aren't drawn out for me, I don't suffer through the slice of life and daily scenes like some of you do. I can sit back and enjoy what I'm reading without feeling any stress whatsoever from the reading itself, as long as the VN isn't too bad. In addition, even scenes too difficult to read for the average VN-player are relatively simple for me to read, so i don't get significantly stressed out by that factor either.
One of the reasons people tend to get tired of VNs is a lack of stimulation due to low reading speed. I read fast enough that a good VN's stimulation will be close to constant, whereas a slow reader will sometimes come to feel 'in-between' scenes that are meant to be short and informative as painful and long.
The act of reading in itself can bring me something close to sexual pleasure if what I'm reading is interesting. The reason I like chuunige is because to me, the stimulation from a good chuunige is actually better than sex. There is always something going on and that something is usually meant to shake up the emotions or engage the intellect. Since, for me, reading something like this really does give me so much pleasure, I can honestly say that concerns about length don't bother me at all, lol.

>>22968859
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>22968859
>the stimulation from a good chuunige is actually better than sex
This still gets me every time.

>>22964435
How many lines per day is is acceptable to read in Muramasa?

Is there an easy way to keep track of how many lines you've read in a reading session? This conversation got me curious how many lines I read in a typical session.

>>22968504
You sound like one of those people who watches videos at 1.5x speed.

>>22969282
I use textractor and an .html that grabs stuff from the clipboard and adds linecount, also a timestamp so I can see exactly how much I read in a given amount of time.

>>22969308
>an .html that grabs stuff from the clipboard and adds linecount, also a timestamp
Where can I download/buy that?

>>22969370
https://www44.zippyshare.com/v/y2DOco9a/file.html
Use the Clipboard Inserter extension to grab the text and the html will format it nicely.

>>22969416
Thank you anon. May the local 神 of your shrine bless you with eroge knowledge.

>>22969308
Thanks. This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for.

>>22969481
>bless you with eroge knowledge
he doesn't understand japanese and won't for the foreseeable future

Does anyone know how long Paradise Lost (https://vndb.org/v1951)) is? I don't really trust vndb to give an accurate length
plus i don't have a lot of free time

>>22969819
I don't see why you would say that, I use that but I barely look stuff up unless it's some obscure field specific word, I just like the line counter and timestamps since it helps me keep focused by "forcing" myself to read a certain amount otherwise I get distracted too easily, particularly with moege.

>>22970677
Oh, sometimes I also use it to Ctrl+F something I might be curious about instead of having to navigate the backlog.
Really, texthooking can be pretty convenient sometimes and acting like someone doesn't know Japanese because they use it is pretty stupid.

>thinking that 1.5x is bad

>not thinking that 1.5x is bad

>using dumb reaction images, only communicating through greentexts and being completely off-topic

>not having green-colored text as your only mode of thought.

>game constantly uses a substantial chunk of CPU even when no effects are on screen
>simply locking and unlocking the screen, or sometimes simply managing windows in a way that the game isn't in front, can result in a black screen, which stays until you toggle fullscreen mode
Why do the Japanese suck at programming so much?

>>22971996
Why does your computer suck so much?

>>22971996
Prease understand.

>>22972007
My computer is fine and surprisingly the game performs fine in spite of this, although I feel sorry for any poor fool who tries to run this on a laptop.
Minimum requirements Pentium 4 my ass
Somehow every other game doesn't have these symptoms, the worst aside from this I've ran into is a game that simply resets its window resizing after unlocking the screen.
Just a "special" game that decides to say "fuck power efficiency, unused cpu is wasted cpu" and decides to ignore window manager events that every other game responds to just fine.

>>22971996
What VN is this because none that I've played has eaten more than just 20% of my CPU load?

>>22972049
> none that I've played has eaten more than just 20% of my CPU load
20% of how many cores? The way Windows displays cpu load considers 100% of all cores to be 100%. If you have 2 cores that's nothing, if you have 8 cores and a game idles at 20% that's a problem.
Nukitashi is usually, combined, using around 15% of my 8 core system when idle (1 core is 12.5%), so more than 1 core in aggregate, but none of the cores are actually fully utilized so no lag
I used Spy++ to look into the blackscreen problem and found it was basically sending itself timer and WM_PAINT events at 24hz or 30hz or something.
Most games use almost no cpu when idle, but this one is probably wasting all its time in a message loop needlessly repainting.

Definitely an abuse of the message system and an astounding hack for a newish game that's supposed to support Windows 10 out of the box.
Haven't found another game that constantly sends itself messages at such a high rate when idle. Most don't send any since messages are for responding to user interaction, like when you mouseover and click

>>22972099
Nukitashi huh? I haven't read it so I can't vouch for it. I might download it and do a stress test of it myself to see for myself.

>>22972178
Maybe it would be better on 8/7, now that I think about it maybe turning off some exploit mitigations will lower CPU usage since it's DX9. Game explicitly supports 10 though.
But receiving hundreds of window messages a second when idle is ridiculous and certainly shouldn't have anything to do with the newer OS.
I guess they decided to use the window system to time their shit instead of doing anything reasonable?

I don't think dealing with unlocking and locking, and turning off and on a screen, is something that changed in Windows 10 either. Might have something to do with being on display port, or DPI scaling.
Pretty much all titles deal with it transparently. 美少女万華鏡 gives you a notification and resizes back to default, but again no black screen and works perfectly.

>>22971996
>Nukitashi
This uses ShiinaRio engine, which is fucked up on so many levels and only gets more cancerous with every new version. Here's a very incomplete list of its victims, most recent being Raillore if I recall.
https://morkt.github.io/GARbro/supported.html

>>22968504
I only skim through stuff to quickly judge if I'll be dropping it or not.

>>22974612
Fuck the garbro guy is still gone, huh?

>>22974612
What's wrong about it? Just curious.

>>22975762
I wanna know too.
And which VN engines are considered the best? KiriKiri?

>>22974612
Can't help but agree. On the sequel there were many frozen half-transparent glitched images in the fighting scenes.
Settings are shit as well. It doesn't even have a way to change the font. It doesn't even loop while playing music in the extras menu.
Shit engine for sure.

>>22975963
For me, it's NeXAS. Having snappy integrated support for gamepads is a huge boon, plus animations are butter smooth.

>>22974612
Are you telling me that every single ShiinaRio engine game eats up CPU when idle and gets a black screen when locking the computer or using UAC? I assumed Nukitashi was just special and modified the engine in a retarded way.

>>22977153
>Settings are shit as well. It doesn't even have a way to change the font.
Who needs settings when you can rename the game's exe by appending _support and it will invisibly detect this and change some unspecified settings?

Anyone know where to find this?
https://vndb.org/v25282

Also, seeking out recommendations of loli bitch VN's to equalize my big titty bitch VN's.

>>22977291
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ245683.html

>>22977293
DL Site doesn't work in my shithole sorry and for some reason my VPN isn't functioning right now.

Was the newest Meister game any good? I enjoyed Kamidori and need an excuse to play something again.

I have decide whether to build up the courage to pirate in Japan or to cough up $100 though

>>22978870
>I have decide whether to build up the courage to pirate in Japan
cant you just pay for a vpn?

>>22978870
try trial?

>>22979450
If I'm gonna pay money I might as well support the makers. Found a mega link though.

>>22979614
I've played Kamidori and a bit of Himegari so it's not like I don't know the system, just curious how it compares.

I'm playing Sakura no Uta right now and well, it's really good, just as expected from SCA-JI. Probably going to give me feels later on.

I also finished Sumaga and it was neat. Slow pacing at some parts but overall it was a fresh and unique experience, with a very intriguing plot and some peculiar characters (Arided was my favorite and I guess Garnet had a very cool design. She reminds me a bit of Tsumugi Shirogane)

>want to go through a bunch of nitro+ titles
>windows 10
i've fucked myself

>>22980908
Or maybe you are just lucky.

>>22980908
pretty sure must still work despite no offical support.

>>22980260
>just as expected from SCA-JI
So... really bad and pseudo-philosophical?

How long are the Muramasa routes?
I think with enough Japanese-style praying I will be able to finish the entire game in ~30 days. Is that slow?

>>22979629
>>22978870
It wasn't as good as Kamidori. You can still play it to scratch your meister itch but it's not better, not that it's bad.

The whole enemy capture for upgrades mechanic should not have been implemented though.

>>22982055
Posts like this are making me hate Muramasa by association.

Is the guy that was looking for Triangle Heart 3 a few weeks ago still around and looking for it?
I can upload the Triangle Heart1/2/3 collection to Mega if you still need it.

>>22983676
Not him, but I'd take up your offer.

>>22983667
Less plebs touch it the better.

>>22983753
Alright, going to start uploading.
If my internet doesn't randomly shit itself, should be done when I get up tomorrow.

Pick what I read next please, I'm very indecisive.

>>22983873
ぬきたし

>>22983876
what if I miss the references and everyone in /jp/ laughs at me for not getting them

>>22983873
ritt

>>22983873
アマカの

>>22983873
The one with the most NTR

>>22983900
How do I know that before I read it? That's why I'm asking you guys.

>>22983917
>he doesn't check tags first

>>22983873
I was looking at dead days' gallery earlier so maybe that. It's pretty hot, dude.

>>22983918
Never. If possible I don't even read a summary of the game before starting it. If I could, I'd download and install them blind so I didn't even have to see the preview images.

>>22983873
Assuming you live in the northern hemisphere, read nukitashi now. If you wait until summer it will act like a space heater (see discussion above)

>>22983965
That sounds like a good way to read a lot of trash

>>22983965
>I don't even read a summary of the game
You are a brave man.

>>22983873
Tsukikana

>>22983873
Delete all of those and download something good.

>>22984063
like what

Is this a good place to ask for recommendations? I doubt most people is /r/ know japanese.

>>22984260
Asking for a VN recommendation from anyone translated or not Spanish Is my first language

でも、僕は日本語エロゲ勉強したい。

Froｍ my taste a cute lolige that doesn't focus fully on sex.

>>22984260
Yes but you'll need to be specific about what you are looking for because if you just say 'tell me what to read' you'll get 5 replies of Muramasa

>>22984364
Sorry, I've included it in these two replies, >>22984260 >>22984304. Just didn't think both could have that enough text.

How come everyone fanboys over SCA-JI but no-one reads his favourite VN, Saihate no Ima, which is of a quality SCA-JI can never hope to live up to.

>>22984649
Because Tanaka Romeo wrote it.

>>22984649

>>22984797
Are you really going to trust a review from a guy who's main complaint is that he couldn't understand it?

im gonna go the virtual machine route for some older vns
is windows 7 fine?

>>22984304
>でも、僕は日本語エロゲ勉強したい。

I fucking knew you fucking spics infested this place. Don't post until you actually know Japanese, not just how to string Japanese words after each other.

>>22984844
No. Install Win 7 as you actual main OS and get a Win XP virtual machine.

I feel personally attacked

>>22982055
Bump.

>>22984304
Please gtfo out of this thread 下さい。

>>22984304
>僕
Please gtfo out of this thread 下さい。

>>22985533
why does she have a masonic symbol on her　ぺったん chest?

>>22985732
Maybe she's a Pink Floyd fan.

>>22984304
>でも、僕は日本語エロゲ勉強したい。
そうそう。思うですけど貴方もその事ですね？本当に美しいわ。

>>22985732
she is jew

>>22986665
dropped from my backlog

>>22986665
cool. picked up the game.

>>22986665
Why would Jews want Japs to procreate?

>>22986992
>The Qliphoth/Qlippoth/Qlifot or Kelipot (Hebrew: קְלִיפּוֹת, the different English spellings are used in the alternative Kabbalistic traditions[1] of Hermetic Qabalah and Jewish Kabbalah respectively), literally "Peels", "Shells" or "Husks" (from singular: קְלִפָּה qlippah "Husk"),[2] are the representation of evil or impure spiritual forces in Jewish mysticism
They want more Goyim to be born to use their impure souls (or Qliphoth as they are known) in their dark magic.

>>22986992
Somebody has to buy retail.

Have you guys ever tried printing out エロゲ to read them as if they were books?
I am getting too distracted lately by the visuals and music in them, so I'm planning to make distraction-free book versions of my favorite scenes in エロゲ.

>>22987340
I dunno what kind of replies you were looking for but I'd suggest seeking a psychiatrist for adhd diognosis

>>22987340
Make sure you wear tight pants while reading eroge.

>>22963377
Is he /ourguy/?

>>22983667
I find them absolutely hilarious for some reason

>>22983667
>>22987751
The duality of man.

>>22983873
Why did you not play the Tsujidou fandisk right after you finish the main game?

>>22987340
This is the kind of high quality post I come to 4channel for.

>>22987340
These adaptations exist in an official matter.
For example, Waffle publishes them on paper, because they have actually good writers on roster.

>>22987723
Side characters in Chronobox were all pretty alright. I still dislike how the reveal ended up handling them.

>>22987780
Not him but I always leave some time apart before playing fandisks, particularly for moege it would get tiring to do them right away, waiting until I've forgotten some things and feel "nostalgic" for the characters makes them more enjoyable.

>>22982055
Bump. Still looking for the answer.

>>22987956
>Not playing the base game and the fandisc simultaneously on two screens
Weak.

>>22982055
>Japanese-style praying
do Japs actually pray? I've never seen that in an eroge yet.

>>22988108
>do Japs actually pray?
Are you serious?

>>22983676
>>22983753
>>22983871
https://mega.nz/#F!dhxlibgJ!Bf7tT5KgZEnijkLn_lR9mw
Here it is.

>>22987840
That was my favorite part though. I think the whole point is that the gifts really did represent something very special and beautiful, as cruel as they acted irl. Amami's letter might be the most important part of the game honestly and I still get chills thinking about it.

>>22988409
May your chosen waifu's route be blessed. Thanks, anon.

https://files.catbox.moe/xyusv2.jpg
All the rape in the Jinki Resurrection previews is looking pretty nice, has Shimizu Ai ever been in something with hard content like this before?
I've never read anything Jinki related before but this is making me want to try it out.

>>22989382
the previous game had bad endings for each of the girls and some unavoidable stuff. If you're going to read it, there's a release of the manga called JINKI-真説 that compiles only the volumes that are not remade into the game's plot. It doesn't matter that much since Tsunashima only cares about drawing cute girls and robot fights, but the VN will be confusing at times without it.

>>22988409
Forgot to mention, these probably need to be patched with the updates here.
http://www.sp-janis.com/products_download.html

>>22988409
I'm guessing this won't run properly on Windows 10, right?

>>22990126
See >>22984968

>>22990246
I'm not asking for a canned reply, but if someone actually tested if it works or not.

>>22990126
Works on my machine.

>>22990791
Most things work fine on win10, there are just a vocal contingent of anti-win10 anons who assume nothing does.

>>22990114
Actually this should be the right URL for the patch download.
http://www.sp-janis.com/janis/triangleheart-dvd/support.html

>>22990791
Thanks bro.

>>22990854
I've actually tried older Nitroplus games and they did not work. Some old VNs will simply not run.

>>22990936
I know the original release Kishin Hishou Demonbane for instance had some DRM built into the .exe that would cause it to instantly crash on 64-bit OS and you had to dig around for an .exe that had the DRM stripped out, and it wouldn't surprise me if other N+ games of similar age have the exact same issue.

>>22990936
>I've actually tried older Nitroplus games and they did not work
Which ones specifically?
The reason lots of stuff doesn't run on Win10 is because of overly intrusive copywrite protection. Often you can find a crack or even occasionally an official patch to fix it.
Obviously super old stuff can be an exception (e.g. 16 bit), but that's more a reason to run DOSBox or a Windows 98VM than a reason to not use Win10.

>>22990936
This was already discussed last year, newfag.

>>22990957
Not him, but I've had issues with Gekkou no Carnevale and Jingai Makyou
The latter has a windows 10 support edition but I haven't been able to find it anywhere to download it via dubious means
So I've mostly given up

>>22990966
Again, if you weren't a newfag you'd be able to get the pack of fixed cracks someone uploaded last year.

>>22990980
Or was it in 2018? Time sure flies.

>>22990980
Well that's unfortunate

>>22990980
Yeah, I'm not even him and I immediately found the pack of cracks on a forum before you mentioned it, uploaded Feb 2019.
Link worked so I'll hoard it for safekeeping even though I don't need it.

>>22987780
Not him but Tsujidou bored me to tears and I couldn't finish it even though I had already downloaded the fandisc. I want more Majikoi.

>>22990936
>>22990957
And for this particular game the advice to keep something even older than XP around in a VM for super old games would work.

GURUGU MAWARU

2 more weeks until eroge is saved, lads.

>>22991039
I've heard VM has troubles running some games, so wouldn't it just be better to have a proper install on another drive and dual boot? Not that I'm an expert on the subject or anything.

>>22991086
>I've heard VM has troubles running some games
Where exactly did you hear that?
>wouldn't it just be better to have a proper install on another drive and dual boot
No, that's a pain in the ass and running something like 98 or even XP on a modern machine may not be a very pleasant experience either in terms of drivers.
Dedicated retro rigs are a thing though and can be nice, but not necessary for eroge which are glorified spreadsheets and aren't too hard to run right compared to old 3d games.

>>22991128
He might be talking about sound and graphical issues. I've had some VN's that didn't quite sound right because my OS doesn't really recognize the audio format. Mostly from PC-98 era.

>>22991196
Maybe emulators have issues compared to the real vintage hardware, but the post I was replying to was comparing dual boot on a modern machine to emulators.
Obviously specialized emulators where you can slow down the CPU will do a better job for stuff like that than just dual booting an old OS on a modern machine.

I keep hearing that Akatsuki no Goei is notorious for its abundance of typos. How do you tell if a VN is rife with those errors? Constant misuse of kanji? My Japanese still isn't the best so I wouldn't likely to notice the mistakes.

>>22991283
>My Japanese still isn't the best so I wouldn't likely to notice the mistakes.

>>22991283
>see word you don't recognise
>look it up
>it either doesn't exist or it makes no sense in context
>'huh must be a typo'
>move on
It's the exact same as typos in english

>>22991283
That's Suisou Ginka no Istoria and they fixed it with a new patch last year. AkaGoei is known for rushed endings.

Also one can tell typos by knowing Japanese.

>>22991577
>>22991607
>>22991623
Not to sound defensive, but I know my limits and I'm trying to find titles that's within my level.

>>22991787
Just read moege, that's all primary school tier vocab.

>>22991787
But how are you going to push past your limits if you keep going for stuff below your level?

>>22988409
Are these games any good or what?

>>22992090
They're typical late 90's-early 00's era eroge. Make that what you will.

>>22982055
Bump. Please... I need to know to manage my time better.

>>22991808
If I was the sort of person who ever tried to improve myself I wouldn't be on /jp/, would I?

>>22992367
Where would you be instead?

>>22992377
Cuddling my wife in my large bed in the big house I own.

>>22992361
Mods pls ban this guy for spam.

>>22992400
I am asking seriously though. I am at the part where the OP first plays (in about 4 days of reading). Is that slow for finishing it in about 30 days?

>>22992450
Why does it matter how long it takes? Are you set to be executed in a month?

>>22992454
>Are you set to be executed in a month?
Yes, unfortunately; or 生憎だが as we would say in Japan. I am typing from a prison.
Seriously though... Is that long? I am loving it a lot and reading each sentence in a poetic-style when it suits the mood/prose, and simply enjoying it otherwise when there is a simple dialog.

>>22989382
is there any info on if that stuff is avoidable or not?

>>22992656
I would image they're just bad endings.
Also, multiple of the rape previews seem to take place in the same room with yellow walls so maybe it's just an ending with bunch of rape scenes one after another.

>>22992499
just take your time and enjoy it then retard
i almost never have time to read vns anymore and it took me like a month well really i read most of the vn in 3 days to finish some dumb chuunige

Any somewhat notable Koreans or Chinese actresses that made a mark in AV? I know there were attempts at this before.

>>22991283
it was the second vn i read and i still noticed them

What is the optimal position to place a VN in when texthooking? I've been noticing that 1. on pic related makes me very slow when looking up hard sentences because I need to constantly mentally jump around all over the screen. Does anyone use 2. here? I'm trying it out right now.

>>22996890
When I was relying on texthooking I used the 2 and I didn't have any big problems.

>>22996890
>>22997178
I don't get it, why would you use a texthooker like that? You're supposed to keep it minimized and only bring it up when you need to look up an obscure word.
Do you just read the entire novel from the texthooker output? What purpose does that srerve?

>>22996890
Sorry bros, I posted the wrong picture.

>>22996890
I have the eroge full screened on my primary monitor and everything else on the monitor to my left.

>>22997259
Can't believe you wasted your time drawing this

Can we stop the low quality shitposting please

>>22997214
>You're supposed to keep it minimized and only bring it up when you need to look up an obscure word.
I'm reading a hard VN.
>Do you just read the entire novel from the texthooker output?
No. That's why it takes a lot of time to mouse over to look up words.

>>22997259
I 'kek'd', if you'll excuse the verbiage.

Okay JoPs. Tell me about Salete (サルテ)

It looks very appealing with the guro. I got it recommended from Dergonu.

>>22997259
>fullscreen older VN
>resolution shits the bed

Anyone have recommendations for comfy romantic lolige? Something I can read and not stress too much about.

>>22997958
>romantic
They're all nukige.

Play Aoi to Sora no Camus. That one is a comfy lolige. If you ignore the bad ends.

>>22998034
Romantic loli nukige, then. Don't destroy my dreams, Anon.

>>22998044
I just saw you post, thanks for the suggestion. I wouldn't have expected horror lolige, which is interesting, though seems like it might be a bit dark too if the tags on VNDB are anything to go off of. I'm open to other suggestions too. I just want something other than outright nukige; I want to spend more time reading than feeling pressured to fap.

>>22998059
If you want romance you're probably better off playing a normal moege or fandisk with a loli route, I really enjoyed Mina from Kinkoi recently.
If you still want a full lolige maybe try something from Marble Candy Soft, Iris or the first few Galette games, they're still heavily focused on the porn but at least the MCs don't feel like a total rapists.

>>22997958
Lose games are the only thing that come to my mind.

>>22997958
>>22998059
Wouldn't Tinkle Position games fit the bill then?

>>22998327
>Mina from Kinkoi
Are you referring to Kin'iro Loveriche? I couldn't find anything on VNDB like that.
> Marble Candy Soft, Iris or the first few Galette games
Thanks for the recommendations. Actually, I do have 通心ぼ from MCS on my PC already installed, but have yet to play beyond a few of the introductory lines. Love the art style, being so cute yet refined and likely plenty erotic. It doesn't have any stereotypical misproportioned-face lolis from the look of things, which I appreciate a lot.
>>22998566
Thank you, I'll look into them. Any particular ones you recommend?
>>22998659
Interesting, I haven't heard of this group before. Are their games chronological in any way? Any that are better than the others? All of their titles seem to start with 「お兄ちゃん、」
Tfw I'm asthmatic, and just read the synopsis of their third game.

>>22998744
I only played monobeno and maitetsu but maitetsu was my favourite from the two.
And all the games of tinkle position are unrelated except for the fandiscs obviously.

>>22996890
Seek mental help, you texthooking subhumans.

Is https://sukebei.nyaa.si/ down?
Where do i pirate vns from now?

>>22998044
>jump scares
fuck no nigger.

>>22999624
It doesn't seem to be down for me, though that's just the site. I can't claim if the trackers and such are all still active, as I'm not downloading anything at the moment. If that is no good, there is also a huge VN section with Mega links in the itazuraneko Library page: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/librarymain.html

I can't say how good it is since I haven't used it, but I imagine it's not bad.

>>22999684
thank you

Anyone have a vn with simpler or furigana-riddled jp? Or should I suck it up and try reading a regular one?

>>23000033
Why would something for adults have furigana? Stop being a DJT EOP, learn Japanese and don't post here until then.

>>23000033

>>22934337

>>23000033
Read a regular one, furigana is literally for children and would only hinder your progression
In the future take these sorts of questions to DJT
Asking for general recommendations based on genre or premise but in regards to difficulty you're better off asking over there or stop being a pussy and try to read what you want, you're going to struggle regardless so struggle with something that you want to struggle with

What's a good Subahibi guide/walkthrough? One that tells me in what order I should read the different endings for best effect?

>>23001307
The whole thing is linear except for one route, so just follow any walkthrough.

>>23001576
Well, already in first chapter I could either first read Rabbit-Hole End 1 and then Tsukasa End or vice versa. Probably makes no big difference?

>>23001933
Nope, just do Zakuro last.

>>22998059
>Romantic loli nukige
Yoru no Hitsuji Lolita series

>>23000033
Just texthook and use TA or something like that to get the furigana.
The ones that say furigana hampers your learning are just haters, unconsciously you learn the kanjis below the furigana without effort after sufficient reading.

>>23003176
Fuck off, Kiva. You're a subhuman that can't read anything normally.

>>23003198
I can read most text "normally" now without help, what are you so salty about that I learnt japanese through text hooking?
I'm actually curious, did you waste money learning japanese making you hate self-taught people?

Why does Love Destination have furigana over all the words anyway.

>>23002686
Thank you for the recommendation, this looks really promising. I haven't heard of this group before, but the 相思相愛 title and after-disc sound just lovely. Have you played them? Look at this qt. I think this may be a great choice to relax with and play.
>>23003176
I'm giving VNs another shot, but this is how I learned when reading other texts, and it has proven to work best for me in the past as well. I wonder what people are using to texthook these days anyway. I seem to just have "ITHVNR3.5640.Pre8r". Do you even use Anki/SRS when reading like this, Anon? Also, what do you mean by 'TA'?

>>23003521
Maybe the producer took a look at this thread.

>>23004078
He's just a cynical man who sees how almost the entire industry creates eroge with stories written for 12 year olds, even though the games are 18+. Might as well do Furigana then.

>>23004135
>written for 12 year olds, even though the games are 18+
That's basically every video game, western or eastern matters very little in that regard.

>>23004135
>written for 12 year olds
Girls or... no?

>>23004078
The trial won't even start in non-Japanese Windows.

>>23004135
12 year olds can already read the kanji in a typical eroge if they're not stupid. Not exactly high literature

>>23004325
>12 year olds can already read the kanji in a typical eroge if they're not stupid.
This. 12 year olds being some sort of retarded version of adults is a modernist Anglo meme.

>>23004325
Unless they've learned them outside of school: No. You learn Kanji for longer.

>>23004340
It has nothing to do with what 12 year olds really want or are. But what it's written for. Big difference. Kids getting underestimated isn't new.

>>23004462
>Unless they've learned them outside of school: No. You learn Kanji for longer.
>You learn Kanji for longer.
That's a nonsensical refutation. I never claimed 12 year olds were completely done learning kanji, just that they knew enough kanji to read a typical eroge, which are mostly full of easy kanji.
Obviously they keep learning kanji so they can read actual literature and technical material, not so they can read typical light novels and eroge.
The screenshots of Love Destination that have been posted certainly didn't have any kanji a 12 year old wouldn't know.

>>23003839
Now I only use it to look for some words but I use Textractor and TA is translation aggregator, the program I always used to see the furigana and the definitions.
I never used anki or other things, as I just needed to move the cursor to know the definition and naturally I got to memorize the words.

>>23004531
>Translation Aggregator
Have you by any chance been doing this for over 12 years?

>>23003839
>Have you played them?
Yeah, they're all great. Just a warning though, depending on your tolerance level, the stories might be a bit too heavy to be relaxing since they all start with the protagonist and heroine(s) being depressed/isolated and bonding over that. But if you're the right type of person, it's great 癒し系. In terms of both story and porn, they definitely go above and beyond what's expected for nukige, along with the circle's other titles.

The first three have the most story, while the ones after that (with two heroines each) are a little bit lighter with more focus on porn.

>>23004624
I used it 2 years from 0 knowledge of japanese in 2014, I now only use it sometimes from convenience to look for some kanji I don't know.

>>23004531
Thanks for the idea. I feel like I am too advanced at Japanese to use a fully mouse-over texthooker, because if I know how a word sounds and how the kanji looks that is usually enough to understand the word for me. I will look into a furigana texthooker.

He's lost it guys.
And so have I. Time to shave my legs again.

>>23004531
Do you think it would impair workflow much to just use a texthooker and copy/paste terms into my browser to use Nazeka on them? I haven't used one in a long time, so I don't remember if that's how most people would look up terms or not (translation add-ons aside). Moreover, have any advice for making this method work well? It is my goal to accrue more vocabulary by reading from raw texts without mining for an SRS or doing anything like RTK. As it stands, I just look at the kanji and think of simple mnemonics for the words using the radicals and readings as a base. I wonder if even that is a waste of time in the grand scheme of things.
>>23004701
Thanks for letting me know. I've decided I'd like to give the first one a try, though I can't find any actively-seeded torrents or DDLs for it, besides Hentai-sharing.net. I can't recall if they're considered reliable or not. Do you have any open trackers or DDL groups to suggest?

>>23005520
From what I looked nazeka is like a browser version of TA so I think TA is more convenient but it depends on what you prefer.
And I acquired all my knowledge by just reading so I couldn't give you other advice than just read and read as in my opinion learning a language is almost just practice; as you read you will learn the kanjis naturally so don't worry about it too much.

>>23005520
Not that person.
I'd say it's easy to sum everything I believe on this matter up as follows:
the more you practice reading, the better you'll get at reading.
You can read on grammar, use mnemonics, make any sort of cards, etc., and in any case, you'll remember some stuff, and you'll forget other stuff. Some sentences will make sense right away, others might not.
Any specific details on the method you might want to apply should be entirely up to you, since it's impossible to infer a priori what will work for anybody.
If you ask anybody, they'll most likely recommend the method they used, but that doesn't necessarily imply it's the best possible method.
Therefore, trust yourself before others.

>>23005520
https://hako.re/forum/ for mega/google drive links, but you have to register.
And the torrents on nyaa are alive even if they show 0 seeders, get they DL版 when possible for lower censorship.

>>23005642
>as you read you will learn the kanjis naturally so don't worry about it too much.
That's what I've been thinking, and I've experienced that in the past when I read from texts and had SRS. I just want to see what I can do with less. I wonder if there's anything people prefer to TA nowadays.
>>23005685
You make fair points. Do you have any preferred references for grammar? I don't mean a guide like Tae Kim, just a quick reference.
>>23005713
Thanks for the link. Everything I tried on Nyaa and didn't get any seeders earlier, but someone started seeding again later in the day, so I was able to snag it. Good thing the game is barely over 200MiB. I'm seeding for people right now, though my upload speed is quite low. At least they'll get the game eventually.

>>23005470
Congratulations on your "transition".
Now register on discord and make a blog.
I will subscribe.

>>23006037
Sorry mate. My Kimika cosplay is for Scaji-sama only.

If you ever have the chance to sit down and have a drink with a prominent eroge writer, who would it be? My pick would be Maruto. I would beg him to write for eroge again.

>>23006068
Nasu so I can ask him to borrow me some money

Do I need to read Re: LieF before reading TrymenT? The 体験版 has a lot of references, and I think some characters are the same. Should I read Re: LieF regardless? Also this thread got a lot worse since last time I was here.

>>23006194
Nvm found the answer in this interview.

To me anyone using any sort of texthookers etc. is less than human.

Does anyone here know where/how to add store link information to a VN on VNDB?

did we merge with djt or?

>>23006340
To me anyone NOT using any sort of texthookers etc. is less than human.

>>23006358
I reported one of the clearly off topic text hooker posts earlier and got a warning for it, so janny seems to think text hooker discussion is visual novels. I'll probably just start filtering the posts so I don't have to mentally filter them out any more.

There has been enough of a divide lately that I think we may want to make a separate thread for the people that "learning through untranslated media" or something.
I understand why those people are reluctant to just go to DJT (just take one look at the current DJT thread).

>>23006556
Just tell them to go to /hgg/.

>>23006556
They should return to Reddit.

>>23006556
People who can't read Japanese need to exist so I can have someone to feel superior to. Without people who can't read Japanese, what's even the point of knowing Japanese?

>>23006610
>People who can't read Japanese
No such thing, for a being who cannot read Japanese is not human.

>>23006556
Thread is already half dead as it is. Why divide it even further
Personally I wish we had a untranslated light novel thread but sadly it was tried and didn't work out

>>23006556
Only matters if it's enforced. The DJT does exist, regardless of how trash it is. If anyone who had the power to make a difference cared about keeping this thread on topic those kinds of posts would be deleted because they already have a place they belong. If anyone cared the DJT wouldn't be so bad in the first place. Most of the posts in there are quite literally "lol u tak him 2 da bar|" levels of shit. I don't doubt some would use the thread you're suggesting for legitimate purposes, but I think it'll see the same kind of instigating we already see here, and I don't believe for a moment it will mean the end of such posts in this thread.

>>23006556
I think this a good idea, but I don't think it would live long enough, or have enough active posters. Not many people seem to post here, and DJT is mostly shitposting. I've made 'serious' posts in both, but then people respond with vitriol and thread memes. I wish there was a space where more productive discussion could take place. Not every thread has to be so divisive. At least most of the people who have responded to my responses have been cordial and helpful, though.

>>23005903
The only reference guides I use for anything related to the Japanese language are monolingual dictionaries (大辞林, 大辞泉). They've almost always got sufficiently detailed explanations for what learner's textbooks mark as "grammar points".

>he texthooks

>he's a JSL and thinks he can read with a high comprehension rate without texthooking

>>23007315
I'm a J5L (Japanese Fifth Language)

I just started this vn. I'm confused. Going by the title I assumed there would be copious amounts of sex. But the MC just wants to protect his virginity.
Where's the sex stuff? Why have I been cockblocked? I get if the mc doesn't want to have sex but they don't really show other people doing it, and just have the sounds.
https://vndb.org/v22899

>>23007644
>He wants to see dicks. Fucking faggot

>>23005642
In the description, it states that he values chastity, and that he and his friends and will attempt to escape being forced to have sex. Only one straight-on NSFW preview screenshot on VNDB. I don't think you're going to find as many sex images as you'd like. Concept is interesting, though.

>>23007204
>he hooks

>>23007670
>>23005470
>>23006037
>he

>>23007696
Not everybody is a girl like you, Marty, I mean, Martha.

>>23007670
Me on the right.

>>23007644
have fun with your electricity bill at the end of the month

>>23007670
>ドM
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

>>23007644
It's not a nukige, just one that sounds like it. If anything, it's more story-based.

>>23007644
That aliasing. Did you tab out of the game to post this?

>>23007644
this is called metamodern, you are welcome

>>23008102
>>23008194
Are there any nukige with a similar premise?
People freely having sex in public.
I know hentai like polinic girls that do something similar to this.

>>23008211
健全！変態生活のススメ

>>23008234
thanks

Finished Ikabey and it was pretty sweet
Had good romance with Wilhelm and Claudia
Claudia was great overall
Great chuuni with Ludvig
And I liked the focus on Wilhelm as a whole, overall his development was handled nicely and in a convincing way which didn't compromise his appearance in Dies Irae
Next stop KKK

>>23006556
Just add something in the OP like
"This thread is not for discussing visual novels as a means of learning Japanese, all questions related to learning Japanese belong in /djt/"
Or something like that. I think a lot of people who come here asking questions like that just don't know better.

>>23008515
Doubt that's the case. Many are likely subhuman DJT EOPs who'll never pass N3 level and it bothers them, so they come here to shitpost.

>>23008515
That would only attract more subhumans who think that even mentioning such things is permitted here.

>>23008705
I don't think it's possible to attract even more subhumans.

Btw you can still get ゴス道の乙女たち here.
https://www58.zippyshare.com/v/0tqlCTPU/file.html

>>23008114
His computer screen is probably 768p.
But what is worse is that he is keeping the bottom right menu locked.

>>23008211
little sick girls games had quite a lot. (Wouldn't suggest the game to others though.)

What the fuck is this bitch's problem?

>>23009693
Being best girl.

>>23007670
I wish most femdom games where about just girl being dominant dur8ng sex and manhandling the males.
Instead its just a bunch of shit like pegging, anal fingering of the guy or non-penetrative shit like that (By that i mean MC putting his dick in holes).

>>23008211
Kenzen series by Clock Up.

>>23009898
There needs to be a balance between going full on pegging only vs. the heroine just assertively wanting the d. I wanna see other shit like facesitting, body worship, tease/denial play. Not just making the heroine getting dicked the main focus like in every other eroge, except with slightly different dialogue. That's boring.

>>23007644
Did you read the Q&A? Literally the first question
https://qruppo.com/products/nukitashi/special/Q&A/
Also that screenshot quality is terrible. Absolutely terrible.

>>23007869
The application is absolutely a piece of shit, but the game itself is good, which pisses me off.

Sorry, this is probably bad to ask here, but you guys are whom I respect, so: what engine do I use to write a えろげ with vertical text like in Muramasa? As in a box with 4 lines I can move around the screen in a more literary way.
Do not worry, it is untranslated.

>>23010711
>The application is absolutely a piece of shit
Then just follow this anon >>22987340 but memorize the characters and their seiyuu so you can imagine the scenes.

Is there any downside to playing a VN that's above your reading level? I can read most simple short VNs and manga, but I've been wanting to try out the new Koihime games which I know is a significant leap in terms of vocabulary and game length

>>23011428
Just do it, it help you to get more vocabulary.
Though koihime is not that complex, it just have chinese words of the time (and chinese names).

>>23011428
Koihime is long but not difficult, I think it's actually a good VN to read if you are at an intermediate level.

>>23011428
>Is there any downside to playing a VN that's above your reading level?
You won't enjoy it as much as if you had waited until you were able to understand it better.

>>23011428
>but I've been wanting to try out the new Koihime games which I know is a significant leap in terms of vocabulary and game length
It's long sure but the vocabulary isn't very complex. Because of the setting there are almost no loanwords or slang so you can get by with just a normal dictionary. None of the characters wax philosophical or get into the nitty gritty of social or civil management, it really never gets that complex.

What would be a big problem for you however would be all the fucking Chinese. Every character has 2 or 3 different Chinese names on top of their normal name and Chinese geography is brought up constantly. Chinese literature and history is also sometimes brought up. Your question is misplaced since Koihime is almost definitely not above your reading level but yeah unless you are already familiar with RotTK you might be doing a lot of googling just to see who/what/where the characters are talking about.

>>23012283
Funny enough I think the Koihime remakes have an option for "Japanese names only" so that should make it even easier to read

>>23012370
If they did I completely missed it, and I'm not sure how that would work since the names are technically in Japanese since it's all pronounced in the Japanese way, they are just the names of people and places in China so the nips are saying them wrong. I got into RotTK through Chinese stuff so my brain was autocorrecting a bunch of dialogue, it was tiring.

>>23012405
>they are just the names of people and places in China so the nips are saying them wrong.
More like Chinese pronunciation is fucked beyond belief. That language is a case study in why phonetic languages are superior.

>>23012533
Kanji aren't phonetic either, the Japs just have additional alphabets that are phonetic and the Chinese don't. Regardless, the Chinese have the final say on how Chinese words are said even if I agree that phonetic languages are much better.

>>23012562
I don't think they have any say at all when they just steal and crack VN's in Weibo.

>>23012533
Mandarin readings are way better than japanese on'yomi of kanji. At least the 同音衝突 shit isn't as bad as in japanese.

>>23012562
>Kanji aren't phonetic
>形声漢字

>>23012700
Not all kanji are phonetic you pedant.

>>23012700
What makes you think that doesn't apply in Chinese?

>>23012713
Their literal Ching Chong manner of speaking.

>>23012742
There are countless things to shit on chinks for. Why pick something you know nothing about?

>>23012713
When did I say otherwise?

>>23012712
Nearly 80% kanji are 形声 type and half of them are still fucked up and you can't guess phonetic information

>>23012954
If 形声漢字 alone somehow make kanji as a whole phonetic then their equivalent in Chinese makes Chinese phonetic.
This is assuming you are >>23012533, because if you aren't you picked a really ambiguous time to come into the conversation.

Do you love kanji?

>>23013020
I came to love them through Stockholm Syndrome.

>>23013020
漢字に対して無関心ですけど、わかりやすい和語をそっちのけにして漢語の造語を好む傾向ははなんか気に入らない、怒髪天。日本はいい加減にして和語に鞍替えするのは良いだが、明治時代から培った漢語に対する熱愛も相当なもんだね。漢字による造語、所謂漢語がはびこり、日本語はテレビ型言語になったからこそ漢字が排除されない点もあります。和語造語が下火になったのは完全に明治政府のせいだね

Will we ever get anything better than musicus?

>>23013300
Musicus 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>23011086
Seek mental help, tranny.

>>23011428
You'll never learn Japanese, subhuman. And knowing this makes me happy.

>>23013300
Musicus is such a masterpiece man. I still think about it every fucking day. Whenever you find me in a contemplative mood, staring off into a distance, pacing to and fro, then the chances are I might be ruminating about musicus and trying to get my head around the meaning of life. It had an immersive effect on how I view life and I feel like I became a different person these days.

>>23013020
It's way better than reading something in purely Hiragana or Katakana.

So, is Musicus actually good or people just memeing?

>>23013401
You'll never know.

>>23013401
just read it for a few hours and decide for yourself. this >>23013334 faggot is definitely memeing in the lines of moogy's gang.

>>23013424
>his VN of the decade was literally just the last VN he played
Can't wait until moogy offs himself

>>23013020
yes, kanji are my friends
i hate seeing shit in hirigana or god forbid, katakana

Late to the party but I just found out that this is coming out and the loli is finally getting a route.
I'm so happy, I'm also quite sad since this is the last game with that top tier art.

>>23008234
>>23009061
>>23009898
I kinda meant groups of men and women having sex with eachother in public, orgies and so-on. Not really just one couple having sex in front of an audience.

Have you guys ever had somebody walk in on you while you're fapping or during a nsfw scene?

>>23013652
yeah my wife

>always get angry at all age eroge
>always crtl though h-scenes
why am i like this

>>23013775
Because H scenes are trash most of the time.

>>23013633
Well in Kenzen the girls fucks a bunch of guys.

>>23013775
Because you are becoming a coomer.

>>23013633
If the reason doesn't matter, the 姦染 series is that.

>>23013775
I give each girl a minimum of 1 fap per route I read and ctrl the rest, unless she's a semen demon.
The reason all ages games annoy me is because I can not get into the romance aspect unless I know the characters consummate their relationship. And no, off-screen h-scenes don't do it for me since it's the actual dialog and visuals that get me into it.

>>23014779
>I can not get into the romance aspect unless I know the characters consummate their relationship
that's it, you hit the nail on the head

I fap to almost every (>99%) h-scene. In fact, I love edging through the entirety of an eroge. My longest fap was 14 hours. I won't say which eroge because that would be saying too much, and anyway it depends on your fetish and tastes.
The downside is that the dick with be swollen during the whole next week. Honestly, no other medium can provide that feeling, not even 3DPG.

>>23014849
I could never replicate that one 6 hour long fap session's culmination I once had. Literally felt that ripping noise they used to put in hentai OVAs inside my head. Had a couple of seconds where I almost lost conciousness. In retrospect, I think that was just heightened blood preassure and a couple of days of nofap due to preoccupation. I wonder what my nuts would be like after those couple of days if I can cover my whole chest in spunk fapping each day.

>>23013633
町ぐるみの罠 and 最終痴漢電車
Now if someone can rec me something similar that doesn't start off as rape, and is just the woman being slutty I would love that.

New thread

>>23016586