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Should ZUN stop brining back the original/old characters in his future games completely and give more attention to establish newer characters?

>> No.22612947
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>>22612938
No, Bring Marisa's gf and Yuuka back

>> No.22612967

>>22612947
I see nothing wrong with bringing lesser known old characters but the overpushed characters should retire or at least not be featured a lot.

>> No.22613050
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>>22612967
Would be fun to see a main game where Reimu/Marisa aren't the protagonists, but i still want Alice and Yuuka back

>> No.22613754

>>22612938
I won't be happy until every PC-98 character gets in a modern game
Preferably from one mega Phantasmagoria game

>> No.22613857

>>22612938
That's what he does now and I would like to see some returns.

>> No.22613861

>>22613754
#justiceformimichan

>> No.22613914

>>22612938
no you retard.
nobody cares about newhus. out of the past two games, the only ones that did well were okina's group which barely gets posted, and from the most recent game, Kutaka and Saki/Yachie. Both of which are barely ever posted.
Heca is only posted so often due to Marisa and Junko to Reisen.
Clappy is a fairy and can stand on her own.

>> No.22613921

heck. even mystia is bound to get more attention if she had her own game where she goes around and pecks people's brains out

>> No.22613970

>>22613050
I can't fucking stand how few artists get Yuuka right, is it really that hard?
>>22612938
ZUN should go in a blend of featuring old and introducing new, going in a see-saw pattern for which direction the particular games go. all old -> mostly old -> mostly new -> all new & reverse. x.games should be one extreme or the other.

>> No.22614368

>>22613970
what are you mad about this time

>> No.22614966

>>22613914
I wouldn't use /jp/ as an accurate measure of character popularity.

>> No.22614999

>>22614966
too bad that wasn't a 4chan based assumption.

>> No.22615069

>>22614999
Alright, so what's your argument? Are you implying that ZUN should only develop characters that are popular within the fanbase? The main canon already has enough EoSD-SA wankery as it is. I think it would be much more interesting to actually utilize the casts he creates for each new game.

>> No.22615118

>>22615069
nobody cares about newhus. it's that simple. you get a couple posts about them and then its back off into the already established group of characters for another long while as some of them gather a small and unsustainable following with at least one faggot following it like a cult leader.
I don't give a shit what ZUN does, but saying that he should give up on the main cast that has been around for at least a decade or half of that at minimum is fucking stupid.
If you want a new cast of characters every game, go play Final Fantasy.

>> No.22615122

Cut the cast down to 20 or so and bin the rest.

>> No.22615146

>>22615122
150 characters is better than 150 different scenarios.

>> No.22615156

>>22612967
I don't think they should be retired but less games with them featured would be nice.

>> No.22615171

The fuck does that mean? The previous prominent characters like Remi, Alice, Eirin are almost non existent now. Same thing happened to the religious gangs. Between SA and AoCF Yukari had only a few cameos and FS ending. Nowadays he's mainly using Sumi, Okina, Heca etc. Unless you're complaining about main character duo Reimu/Marisa which is pantsu on head retarded.

>> No.22615470

>>22612938
ZUN should stop making new games with 6-7 new characters per game. They should be like the fighting games which features mostly old characters and only 1-3 new characters. Nobody gives a shit about stage 1, 2, 3 bosses. Why not giving them to old characters?

>> No.22615610

>>22612938
ZUN should do whatever he wants to do.

>> No.22615887

>>22615146
I'd rather 20 snowflakes than 150 paper plates.

>> No.22618585

>>22615610
He should still be looking at what the community wants though.

>> No.22618620

>>22615610
ZUN doing what he wants is what makes touhou so good in the first place
>>22618585 is fucking retarded

>> No.22618798

>>22618585
>>>/out/

>> No.22618825

>>22612938
>Should ZUN stop brining back the original/old characters in his future games completely and give more attention to establish newer characters?
until ZUN decide to bring any pc-98 I´ll give you the reason, also reimu and marisa are here to stay, forever

>> No.22618830

>>22615122
>t. GameFreak

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>>22618585

>> No.22619139
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>>22613914
>>22615118
OP is a retard but you have to go back (to MoTK or r/Touhou)

>> No.22625722 [DELETED] 

>>22612938
no

>> No.22626272

>>22619139
>MoTK
Anon please, that site's a literal graveyard now. I used to go there for info on new games and manga but it's become a shell of its former self. It's kind of sad seeing old forums I used to go on die off one after another.

>> No.22626286

>>22626272
Stop fucking blogging and leave.

>> No.22626318

>>22626286
That was his first response dude.
You're looking real schizophrenic right now. You should really stop posting.
I think your mental capacity is dropping.

>> No.22626909

>>22612938
no,
no he should not
that would be like arbitrarily tearing down the foundation of a house that functions completely fine, the already existing dynamics between 2hus and what they represent defines touhou, it wouldn't be touhou if ZUN just changed it like that

>> No.22626938

>>22618585
wwwwwwwwwww /out/ retard

>> No.22627063

>>22619139
I agree, his posts lack one-liners and buzzwords, definitely not /jp/ enough.

>> No.22632837
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>>22613050
>but i still want Alice and Yuuka back
I love you, anon.

>> No.22633772

>>22626272
>>22627063
GoOJP

>> No.22634233

>>22612938
The protagonists are the protagonists so they'll always be there. Whatever other character gets a chance to be a protagonist thanks to drunk ideas is always pleasing as well, the same goes for other characters getting their own games. New incidents involving new people makes perfect sense and I have no idea why retards like >>22613914 insist on missing the point this hard.
All in all I'm glad ZUN is ZUN.

>> No.22636536

>>22612938
zun is a hack

>> No.22636552

>>22636536
Yeah, zun has no idea what he's doing, but ZUN on the other hand is pretty cool

>> No.22638029

>>22636536
Who?

>> No.22638083

According to Dunbar's number he needs to either stop creating characters or start murdering the current ones, maybe an extinction like the PC-98 transition.

IMO Need to go and stay fucking dead:
SDM
EiKomachi
Chireiden
Myouren
Senkai


I'd say the moon but ZUN seems to be deep in love with spaceniggers.

>> No.22641867

>>22638083
tl;dr
"I HATE THE CHARACTERS FROM GAMES 6 TO 11! 12-PRESENT NEED MORE REPRESENTATION AND I'M TOO LAZY TO POST ABOUT THEM."

>> No.22641874

>>22612938
new characters are trash

>> No.22641922

>>22638083
>Dunbar's number
I was the one who created that thread, it was shitty bait, I hope you're not serious

>> No.22641933

>>22638083
There should be an extinction, but with Mima returning as one of the protagonists

>> No.22642307
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>>22641933
I like the way you think.

>> No.22647148

>>22612938
YES
E--E
SEY

>> No.22649079

>>22612938
terrible thread.

>> No.22649884 [DELETED] 

>>22612938
No

>> No.22656361

>>22612938
Fantastic thread.

>> No.22662590 [DELETED] 

>>22612938

>> No.22669567

>>22641933
I'd take more generic nuhus than oldhus who overstayed their welcome

>> No.22670242

>>22612938
he should stop making new characters all together except maybe 1-2 each new game, develop who he already has

>> No.22670250

>>22670242
The core fanbase does that for him.

>> No.22675765

>>22670250
Fancanon doesnt count

>> No.22675931

>>22638083
Moon canonically get their immortality shrek'd by Secret Sealing Club. Turns out living a life of sin isn't a good way to maintain purity.

>> No.22675948

>>22618585
>Eternal Koishi and EoSD (but not Cirno) wanking until the end of time
No

>> No.22675956

>>22675948
You mean "EoSD (but only SDM residents)".

>> No.22676909

>>22675765
The core fanbase does that for him.
Don’t like it, feel free to find another hobby.

>> No.22681403

>>22612938
Every character's profile is like 2 sentences. None of them are really fleshed out so it doesn't matter.

>> No.22682104

>>22612938
Not really possible at this point. Touhou has more characters than a typical gatcha and ZUN is clearly unwilling to stop creating newhus and flesh out the existing ones.

It doesn't help that he won't make another Phantasmagoria game and that Reimu will always be the protagonist and central character in the mangas.

>> No.22682324

>>22675948
Who are you quoting?

>> No.22687903

>>22682104
So are you saying Touhou should become a gacha game from now on?

>> No.22688019

>>22612938
why not give attention to both

>> No.22692628

>>22688019
The games are already stacked with tons of characters, I would love if some of the lesser known ones would get their own but I don't think that would ever happen

>> No.22695419

>>22675931
When does this happen

>> No.22699920 [DELETED] 

>>22612938

>> No.22703665

>>22670242
>he should stop making new characters all together
curious, my main complain is the lack of unique midbosses and the fucking same score track from MoF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.22705337

>>22612938
I honestly became gradually less and less interested in newhus from 12. They are all unappealing compared to oldhus. Special mention goes to DDC and HSiFS.

>> No.22706101

>>22612938
No I want to see more of the one-off characters come back for future adventures

>> No.22708841
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22708841

We had Reimu, Marisa, Cirno and all mainline stage five bosses from 6-10 as playable. When are Orin and Shou joining the battle?

>> No.22712751

>>22708841
I can name dozens more characters who deserve more presentation.

>> No.22715588

>>22612938
It's important to have an anchored "cast" of characters that appear frequently other than the MCs for the sake of things like writing, worldbuilding and character development.
And also ZUN -already- does what you said, new characters that aren't clearly meant to be just filler punchingbag bosses for you usually have appearances after one game and get further character development and screentime. Then after maybe a few games/manga chapters of appearances, they get swapped for new ones.

>> No.22716183

>>22705337
That's probably because the newhus don't have thousands of fan content that build and interpret the characters in ways you like.

>> No.22720416 [DELETED] 

>>22612938

>> No.22723334 [DELETED] 

>>22612938

>> No.22728628

All of you kill yourselves. Of course OP is right but only partially. He's still a faggot though. Just like all of you. Get out of /jp/.

>> No.22728656

>>22728628
Thanks me too.

>> No.22728662
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22728662

>>22632837
I love Yuuka!

>> No.22728665

>>22728628
Im sorry, I don’t think you know how right I am. You cannot deny that fact.

>> No.22728667

>>22728656
Schizobumper

>> No.22728697

>>22728667
It was sarcasm to what that sperg said, or was it you?

>> No.22728730
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>>22612938
bring back more old characters

>> No.22728777

>>22612938

Crusty Reimu

>> No.22729038

Yes, but not to all. There is fucking hard to make a good history with trash characters like Kagerou, Clownpliece or Nemuno Sakata, that last I think there are no fans nor anyone remember her. But Shion with her capitalism can do a ''Its a Moriya Shrine Conspiracy'' but instead technology money, Doremi, the vengeance of Keiki, we cannot forget the potential of Seiga as an evil incident head... And if Cirno could be main, I have no problem with Seija going to investigate an accident in search of revolution or Kutaka (the chicken) by order of the Yama to fix things.

>> No.22729093

>>22729038
Please learn English

>> No.22729157

>>22729038
Google AI is posting on jay? Cool.

>> No.22729342

>>22612938
ZUN should make KKHTA canon and start with a whole new cast. Do something safe for TH18, kill everyone horribly in TH19, and start fresh with VR game in TH20 (since by then VR tech should be good). We'll have the three eras of Touhou: PC-98, Windows, and VR.

>> No.22732440

>>22729342
A bullet hell game in VR sounds absolutely horrible

>> No.22732520

>>22732440
You don't want to be blind? You some kinda wuss?

>> No.22735238

>>22732520
No seriously, as someone with the meniere's this sounds like real hell.

>> No.22735887

>>22729038
10/10 schizo post

>> No.22736679

ZUN should kill off Mima to piss off the autists.

>> No.22736701

>>22736679
but she's already dead

>> No.22741019

>>22736679
One of the least educated pieces of bait ever I have ever seen on this board

>> No.22741053

really wish he would stop putting (((sanae))) in every single piece of media imaginable

>> No.22741114
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>>22612938
Alice should have be the third protagonist in the franchise, at least she could have back in EoSD as a playable character with Rin's design.

>> No.22742109

>>22741114
ZUN artstyle for 2025.

>> No.22743522
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22743522

No
But I do think he should make a game revolving entirely around Suika and Marisa

>> No.22744347

>>22612938
He should bring older characters either as first/second stage bosses, or just bring them back for the fighting games

>> No.22744374

>>22687903
It already is

>> No.22752548

>>22744347
Or make a new game with nothing but new touhous. Make the games refreshing again.

>> No.22752686

>>22752548
This but also keep Sumireko and Joon
Optionally Kokoro and Suika

>> No.22753730

>>22641867
Also
>durrr durrr I, like, love PC98

>> No.22764692

>>22753730
What's wrong with liking the PC98 games?
Also who are you quoting?

>> No.22765097

>>22753730
Who are you quoting

>> No.22765107

>>22752548
Retard.
>If you want a new cast of characters every game, go play Final Fantasy

>> No.22773140

>>22753730
Get out of /jp/

>> No.22773367

>>22765107
kill yourself secondary nigger

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