/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>22634949
>edition
reported

>>22634959
basedest

>>22634959
announcing a report is against the rules :)

cute boy just smiled at me

>>22634966
i am immune to the rules but the thread is not

>>22634966
using smileys and calling people "small brained" ought to be against the rules too

>>22634972
>>22634973
stay on topic guys or else your posts will be swiftly deleted :)

ah, yes, this is djt so lemme go fetch some matto posts

trying to watch fruits basket but this shojo shit is so fucking cringe and unbearable

the only good shoujo manga are the ones made by clamp.

>>22634988
why you don't like watching people fall in love

>>22634994
no, he probably doesn't like shoujo atuff because of pointy chins and bug eyes

good edition bros
remember whatever happens i will always love you

>>22634994
i like romance shows, it's the shojo shit that makes it shit. but i guess if a girl watches male-oriented romance shows she might feel the same way.

>>22634959
>>22634972
FINNA BASED

thread slowly dying thanks to a certain someone edition

>>22635082
yeah but we finna based so whats the problem?

how many vns has moe read so far?

>>22635108
he cant read

daily reading practice

>>22635108
almost 3 gotta finish up kud wafter

was going to watch pani poni dash but apparently is full of obscure references

jamal must be a god if thats one of his favorite shows

>>22635113
this classifies as cyber bullying

>>22635133
nah, just watch more anime from that era and you'll get them all.
if you've got trouble catching onto the references, you should look through the booklet that came along with the english fansubs.

>>22635113
it's interesting how most japanese people write with a slant towards the left whereas western handwriting is usually slanted towards the right

trying to watch scryed but the audio is so fucking bad its unbelievable

>>22635152
i doubt an anime-watching veteran who'd never lived in japan would know every single one of these references
https://hiyono.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/gg-pani-poni-dash-18-pdf-notes-a0027f81.pdf

>>22635152
yeah thats why i made that post is cause i just looked at the booklet thing. i dont want to read that shit in between watching

Can someone help me with this? I complimented someone and they wrote: シンプルに嬉しすぎ.
I'm not sure what that means. Did they think my compliment was overboard, or did my compliment make them happy?

referential humor is pretty shit though tbqh

>>22635175
>http://users.skynet.be/mangaguide/au1907.html

wtf is this there are some really dedicated gaijin out there, i imagine there are hundreds of people like jamal who write this shit

Is there a way to mass replace all the audio in a selected group of anki cards with audio from the yomichan plugin (which I believe uses japanesepod101)? The core 10k deck uses this god awful robot generated voice, so I've been replacing the audio 1 by 1, which just takes too long.

>>22635196
little shit like this piles up over time and makes me wish i knew how to program

>>22635184
stfu janny

>>22635207
Yeah. I've been able to code most of the stuff I want but this is beyond my knowledge. There's gotta be a way to do it, because the audio files are in the format of [sound:yomichan_つぐなう_償う.mp3], but the problem is you don't actually have the audio file until you download the card. So for every card in the core 10k deck I have to go download the card in yomichan first. Major pain in the ass.

俺もゲイになりたい！
教えて兄貴たち

>>22635267
sine newfag

>>22635196
export to text and just use a regular expression replace. sed on linux would work best.

>>22635299
You know typing si instead of shi and tu instead tsu doesnt make you cool it just makes you look like a tryhard faggot.

who are the most important characters to follow in panda to make sure ill make it

[filler post so jamal doesnt feel uncomfortable posting several times in a row while no one else posts]

>朝顔
yeah i'm probably stopping core

>>22635462
there's no point having shit like that padding out your deck, if you see it in context it's going to be completely obvious what it means and the reading is just standard too

>>22635303
do you literally type out shi on your ime?

>>22635500
Well I forget the order but if you're wondering there's lot a lot of instances of plant species in the deck, but you're 3k cards in so you should know that.

>>22635504
not a lot*

>>22635448
this is bullshit
i hear words i just learned a week ago in my raw anime all the time

>your brain cannot process each word fast enough unless you have heard it 10000 times before
the bullshit

>>22635546
sometimes vowels sound like one another especially when people are talking super fast so i have to type the word several times and swap out vowels until i actually spell it correctly (i do this to look up words sometimes).

>>22635521
The 10k times was a random number but what I said was true. Even if you knew every word in the Japanese language, you still wouldn't be able to understand Japanese unless you have listened to it enough times to catch on to the speaking patterns.

>>22635543
Pretty weak retort but it's no surprise considering Jamal is the only person who has my number in this thread. You might have to cowardly team up with him if you want to drive me away.

>>22635574
i think you're catching the same illness as me, jamal.

>>22635635
*smug jewish face*

google translate from german to japanese works somewhat oddly.
if i look up "Diener", i get "公務員", but if i look up "しもべ", i get "Diener".

sad naruto osts play in my head when i think about how some of my djt bros wont make it

>>22635654
google translate sucks

>>22635658
yea you should feel bad how is it fair that low iq people with bad taste in anime have a huge advantage?

>>22635664
there are other mediums you know

>>22635654
stfu qm

>>22635671
dorama, film, documentary, japanese youtubers, audiobooks, variety shows, podcasts

>>22635679
i'm the mexican anon who lives in the same block dolly's favorite roast chicken restaurant, not qm

>>22635683
low iq
not enough good ones to be worth learning a language for (probably 10 combined)
low iq
low iq
not enough good ones to be worth learning a language for (probably 10 combined)
low iq
extremely low iq

>>22635691
why dont you just admit to yourself that you have neither the desire nor the reason to learn japanese? i dont understand you at all dude

>>22635691
>there are 10 good japanese movies and books
tell me some of your favorite western movies and books you pretentious fuck lmao

>>22635690
is it good?

>>22635716
can u go stalk the dollmans apartment and take a few voyeur pics? or is this restaurant in a diff city to where he lives?

>>22635706
what makes you think i reserve my shitposting for this? though my hobbies have dwindled in recent years

>>22635724
krashen isn't based and he's not really respected here just an old fart who proposed input is essential

>>22635566
Nice try fuckface but he's already addressed this character assassination.

>>22635759
different taste in itself is fine but there is such a thing as bad taste.

>>22635815
you forgot a couple of ?s

for some reason theres like 3 brainlets in this thread who think sangatsu is a bad show

they must be ignored

>>22635830
it's part of the comedy

>>22635815
100% respectable taste better than most for sure
>>22635839
@

>>22635840
objectively false
sol is good but yryr is just okay

>>22635844
objectively true

>>22635841
i mean if youve seen any of the actual extremely melodramatic shows it doesnt even compare but perhaps ive been slightly desensitized

>>22635855
objectively fal... true?

hating on 3gatsu is for spiritual hikkis who havent felt an emotion other than boredom hornyness and hunger in the past decade

>>22635879
cope, plenty of other shows have elicited a wide range of emotions from me including the ones that shitgatsu aims for

>>22635883
such as

>>22635889
8/10
didnt watch
didnt watch
didnt watch
7 i think
8
8 i think
4

ergo proxy was probably just too smart for me, im sure high iqs who have read 50+ philosophy books love that show

>>22635916
high iqs who have read 50+ philosophy books tend to be less impressed by pointlesslyly namedropping random philosophers lol

>>22635957
because redditors

>>22635957
well as you can see in the title its because hes black and no one really has any expectations of them so he can get away with sounding like whatever

>>22635923
i would guess the "namedropping" prolly somehow ties in his the concept of the show as a whole as well as the nature of its world it presents

>>22635978
>criticizing someone whose entire gimmick is speaking for being bad at speaking makes you a tard
uh ok lol

>>22635978
so thats what happens when you read more

>>22635978
>""bruh"" hating on (nigger) isn't allowed here

dont care
3 gatsu no lion is based
shounen is cringe

also ive never attempted to watch that anime and i have no intention to because i only care about shonen anime now.

>>22635986
i suspected afterwards it wasn't you but i can't resist namedropping

is the janny gone yet
is it safe to respond to that post with "blacks arent people"
ah whatever

>>22636008
niggers arent human

>>22636055
what are you talking about
this is 4channel

>>22636066
what are YOU talking about? this is SPARTA!!!

janny ruined the fucking mood
i really dont feel like posting with you anymore bros, i might have caught depression

how the fuck does something like fairy gone get 24 episodes? i just done get this shit

please don't tell me you guys are the ones deleting the posts
that's some mentally ill shit

>>22636128
>>22636130
oops lol well good night haha

>>22636131
ye we sync deleting 15 posts at once in our private discord dedicated to such important matters

wasnt there some guy that got pissed we came to jp once the exodus from a happened
maybe he became a janny to get revenge for plaguing his toehoe board

stfu no one cares
take your anime shit to /a/

>>22636177
doesnt seem to matter when this one fucking idiot comes here to delete everything

>>22636170
okay i'll take my anime to where it belongs

based shojo giving an insight into the insecure psyche of young girls

>some dude reports /pol/posting
>half the thread deleted
sasuga jannie-kun

why do i get called a zoomer even though i'm 28

thinking about buying a cute 浴衣(this is japanese btw janny) for my gf
what you guys think about this one in the picture
i mean at least for me, i get this urge of wanting to hold both of her hands (shes an idol)

Does smoking weed negatively affect your inputting time?

this guy is literally sitting here and deleting posts as they are posting lmao dude i hope everything is ok in ur life

okay quiz time

could you guys help me regognize this idol
i heard shes japanese and famous here

THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!

How do you tell anki to make you review the cards you inputted today?

>>22636330
What do you mean? If they haven't been learned they should be added as long as you are under the new cards per day value you've set up.

>>22636320
u mean this has been going on a week lmfao
さすがdjtだよねー

>>22636396
well i mean qms already back now too
so things are extra shit here

>>22636301
i thought no.2 was how it'd normally be interpreted

>>22636506
just give up dude

were my /djt/ bros courageous enough to get a gift for a women of interest this christmas?

>>22636524
if you can remember a word that you couldn't think of for 5 seconds you'll probably remember it for a long time though

>>22636596
and then they get mad and say jamal doesnt know as much nihongo as they will after 69 years of flash cards

>>22636613
you dont even know english man all hope is lost for you

any of you dudes know a good pc to tablet screen mirroring set up? i wanna play vns in bed but a monitor on the wall doesnt cut it

jamal is so effing awesome why doesnt this guy want me to suck him off

>>22636642
just face the music, realize the pathetic depths you've fallen to in regards to seeking validation and perhaps reflect and adjust

>>22636659
i'm the seiza autist

what

i watched 3 episodes of mother today.

cant wait to anime mine all the juicy words in muramasa so i can have a vocabulary larger than the average native adult

>>22636741
Baldr Sky is like 5% gameplay and 95% ADV. The gameplay is basically optional too.

>>22635889
All 7/10 :)

>>22636763
thanks for the tip. you think it is worth reading? like did it really move you or make you think about things on a deep lvl or was it like eating at mcdonalds

>>22636787
VN Core is only useful if you really don't care about anything other than VNs. Crap like this guide is why we get so many "fluent" speakers that think they understand a lot more than they really do.

>>22636800
it's shit so probably

>>22636790
>>22636802
thats a hentai doujin you fucking pedos, sick fucks

>>22636832
do you just have exceedingly low iq or something wtf

follow
the
guide

>>22636837
yes

>>22636796
lmao wut? Common words are common across all media

>>22636864
My point isn't that the words aren't useful, it's that you'll be lacking plenty of extremely common words. It's not enough, and you'll be looking up half the words you see.

djt the type of guy to shit on peoples anime taste but give hxh and berserk a 10 on anilist

>>22636832
>half the show
Don't watch the anime, read the manga

>>22636867
good point they should be doing core 50k

my favorite genre is slice of life but mostly the ones that are mixed with some kind of fantasy/sci-fi/supernatural aspects as well :)

>>22636906
Look up what a "straw man" is.

ＯＺのまほうつかい？

へんなはなしだよね

>>22636915
And recommending to jump into reading with an extremely basic vocab is just asking them to quit. Reading when you know half the words (and the less useful ones) is a huge chore.
>>22636917
You are reading the most basic shit there is though. That shitty guide says "read anything you want".

>>22636931
Which is all fine and dandy, except that shitty guide says nothing and tells you you are ready to read with that. The whole point of a guide is to aim it to newcomers, not the people that already know how to learn.
>>22636939
If it's "as fast as possible" why even do the decks? You can just mine it all from the start, since there'll be a negligible difference in understanding and time spent looking up words.

>>22636946
>If it's "as fast as possible" why even do the decks? You can just mine it all from the start, since there'll be a negligible difference in understanding and time spent looking up words
Good question. It basically was my previous point about word parsing

>>22636945
Still doesn't change that you'll spend 10 minutes per line, and over half the time reading actually looking up words and trying to make sense of them, or translating the whole sentence by translating every word.

>>22636959
i don't think there's any way around that phase
you gonna be slow at first deal with it

>>22636954
If you are really wondering that, try doing it for Chinese or any other language and you'll quickly realize it doesn't work, same as the shitty guide that was posted.

>>22636964
Of course you can't get around it. You can make things easier on yourself by starting with an already decent vocab, and that's why people recommend doing the Core2k/6k deck.
Skipping Anki and reading doesn't make things quicker or easier.

>>22636965
what's that, ESL-kun?

>>22636944
There's a difference between a guide and the truth. Ever watched The Matrix?

>>22636974
nope

who cares aboute beginners and how they pwn themselves with stupid methods. unless ur trying to make a patreon to get your flock to pay you to lead them

>>22637000
I know that, and I never said anything opposite to that. Knowing all the words is a good start though, since knowing only half will make it even harder since you'll have to look them up. Several times per line.

if some1 mentioned the matrix and it doesnt get deleted u should be able to go slightly off topic to talk about it without getting ur post deleted just my opinion doe

エメラルドシティって

どこにあるの

>>22637007
usotuki

>>22637008
No? I literally said you end up not learning shit since you are just looking them up. You have to mine them, but you can't mine every single word in every sentence you read. Having a strong base is what makes the process work.

>>22637016
stfu

>>22636999
ull get almost nothin more out of a sentence in 10 minutes than u did in the first 30 sec
im givin u 3 minutes in case ur really shit at lookin up kanji in ur dictionary

nooo dont try to read anything you cant do that yet

unban jamal you fucking grinch!

>>22637016
>Having a strong base is what makes the process work.
memorization is not a strong base
>>22637023
that sounds like grammar study
how much do u read

>>22637030
>that sounds like grammar study
Just Tae Kim. The rest is just random shit I find on the Internet that I really want to read, or raws of manga I follow that I try to read before translations are out. I'm still practically illiterate, especially for anything that's not dialogue.

Reminder to never mind new words.
Only mine words that you feel like you've seen before

anyone got an invite to jamal's discord?

>>22637030
>memorization is not a strong base
It literally is. That's how language learning works, why do you even think Anki is so widely used?

>>22637046
https://discord.gg/t4XCHs

>>22637052
were trying to acquire here mate

>>22637052
>why do you even think Anki is so widely used?
People like to see the numbers in Anki go up, like a video game. It makes them feel like they're acquiring nippongo

>>22637071
You can't do that if you forget the word's meaning. Memorization makes it so that you can actually acquire the word when exposed to it. As a MIAfag you should especially understand this.
>>22637079
Sounds like you haven't done any real progress in the language. Otherwise you'd know better.

https://streamable.com/z00b9

>>22637083
>moe is an miafag
back to early 2019 with you

>>22637087
he couldnt read 憑依霊?

>>22637097
Talking about acquisition makes him a MIAfag, not the name.

>>22637103
that's krashen terminology you fucking poser

>>22637103
stop posting with uppercase letters

>>22637110
Yeah, and we all know what popularized making the distinction.
>>22637111
I'm not a phoneposter, so no thanks.

its funny how u can post about almost nothing but anki techniques for years but u put krasners face in a couple videos and use the word acquire and that makes u the authoritative source on krashner lmfao

i've been making and reviewing cards for almost a year now.
i feel like, even though i've memorized the vague shape, reading, and definition for around 5k words, my actual comprehension level is still just as low as it was back when i knew only 200 words.

>>22637121
Every learning resource out there talks about Anki, while almost no one tries to explain the actual process through which we learn languages since most people really don't care.

>>22637122
sorry to hear u fucked up

>>22635156
huh if youre referring to english cursive versus hiragana then i do start to see that

>>22637122
stop making cards and watch a shit load of sol anime for a few months

>>22637122
watch 三ツ星カラーズ

>>22637122
read 20 vns

Reminder that people have become fluent in a second language throughout all of history without Anki. No study has ever shown Anki makes you become fluent faster

all language "learning" studies are retarded and you should follow the antimoon method

>>22637159
just wait until the immersion pod happens

>>22637159
Then don't use it. Feel free to stick to classical methods and reach fluency in 20 years.

【悲報】外国人に話しかけられて、とっさに「I don't speak English!」と言ったら「ベンキョウしろ」と日本語で返されたこのダメージが消えそうにない

>>22637165
lmao Chris reached fluency without it in 18months just recently

>ankifag doesnt know about chris

>>22637162
u mean the krashner method

chris is a failure promoted as a success.

>>22637178
owned

>>22637190
no because he never learned a language and has no method

>>22637207
they are lazy and don't actually want to put in the effort. i doubt they even read anything more than once a month or two.

>>22637207
I guess it's easier to stay in denial rather than admit you are doing things wrong. I used to hate Anki and didn't want to use it because I'd have to start over since my reps had all piled up.

>>22637144
カラーズ

>>22637205
he prob speaks better german than u do nihongo lol

>>22637205
woah, what does he speak then?

>>22637255
he acquired english through radiowave transmissions

are light novels actually harder than vns or am i just dumb?

>>22637277
they are easier

>>22637277
They're harder, no visual components

>>22637282
i feel like it's easier to concentrate on the prose in lns because they've got less distracting images and no sound.

>>22637159
there also haven't actually been any studies on the effects of anki on learning...

>>22637303
based and tease pilled

>>22637277
possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcNIJldE7U8

>>22637303
80 iq retard

>>22637344
who doesn't like a cute tease?

>>22637361

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybDX9wmIwI
how long have u been 習うing this 言語 and hown much of this do you 理解出来る?

>>22637384
3 years, 0%

lately i am strangely by accident watching a few anime that ended up having a christmas themed episode or 2

>>22637384
Made anki anime cards out of the entire video and now have 100% comprehension

>>22637422
based

>>22637422
>pile stones up beneath your feet and you'll become taller

>>22637384
that video is ear cancer

does matt tell learners not to use music because he can't understand sung japanese?

>>22637426
at least the stones are actually raising ur head lol

>>22637444
I can't understand most sung English songs even as a native, doesn't mean I shouldn't listen to music

there are literally hundreds upon hundreds of words in the various core decks that are very infrequent in the type of media someone from here is likely to consume and i'm going through and deleting them. such a pain.

>>22637469
dont tell qm or ciaran that, since they believe every single word at n1 level or below is extremely common

>what im doing is shit but im gonna keep on doing it

>>22637491
with their level of comprehension and varied input that's probably true but it still makes more sense for a shitter like me to prioritize more frequent words that are appearing in every other episode of a show than a word i almost never see but which may be common in the news or something.

>>22637494
例外なく everyone here

whats a "word at n1 level" thats not extremely common?

>>22637509
死

There's probably words as a native english speaker I would consider "very common" which in reality may not be.

>>22637509
摂氏

>>22637469
just farm your own words

>>22637525
if you watch the news in japanese

>>22637534
>common
>only used in niche media

>>22637509
真珠

Hey DJT, can someone help me with that last part that I selected? I'm not really getting the meaning of these four kanji put together.

>>22637558
it's biribiri's name, followed by が帰って来る

what do u mean by common
common where
if ur goin beyond the actual few hundred most common words its gonna start depending what u read or watch
so talkin about how often ur likely to actually hear somethin becomes impossible unless u say its common in scifi anime or common in the news
if i said an english word is common i wouldnt mean u hear it every day or even every year but i would mean that essentially every adult native knows it

>>22637563
Thanks!

>>22637559
it's a name

is scabbard a common word?
what about codpiece?

>>22637577
i could prob imagine a native havin no idea what codpiece means
scabbard i think thats less likely so im gonna say its common
im not tryin to tell u what is and isnt common though
im sayin that what someone means by that varies

>>22637555
lol wym

からかい上手高木さん has good エロ漫画 in japanese

i mined お色直し a few weeks ago and now it seems to pop up every other day wtf

>>22637702
コミケいくんでしょう？

>>22637836
いかないね
人混みやばすぎるし

>>22635184
They are really happy.
すぎ at the end can be used in a way similar to the "too" in "too kind".

>>22637847
はつもうで

いくんでしょう

>>22637491
keep my name out of your mouth your posts are trash

>>22638219
seriously dude? ok. i was about to go to sleep but now im feeling bad about myself and probably wont be able to.

>>22634949
where can I find raw scans to read online?

>>22638379
u new or something lol

>>22638396
Not really, but I haven't come by at all in the past few years. Did I respond to copypasta?

>>22638412
it's just well known that imouto-chan is a native japanese

>>22638424
Alright, that's good to know. I remember some natives used to stop by from time to time before, too.

>Hello sir are you perhaps new to this area, for your information imouto-chan is actually a native Japanese, and this is a well-known fact among the frequenters of this community

>>22638494
upset?

>>22638219
did he really deserve that

>>22638379
このロリコンどもめ

>>22638517
not for that post specifically but i know who it is and he's always posting dumb shit and claiming things ive never said

>>22638561
>>22638561
妹ちゃんに返信するとロリコンになるのか．．．

Is there any grammar in this language worse than passive and causative conjugations?
食べさせられるらりるれろ fuck off

>>22638606
Q:食べさせられなくない？
A:食べさせられなくはない。

think id lose my shit if i had to do 30-40 min of reviews per day. even the 15 im doing now is pushing it. i guess if i split it into 2 sessions with like 6 hours in between it might work.

>>22638802
If you want to learn Japanese you'll probably get to 60 minutes of reviews at some point.

>>22638802
I used to do them in between reading a book/manga or watching a show a lot. Do 15 minutes in the morning, and then like 2 minute spurts every 10 manga pages, or 5 minutes after an episode of anime.

It still kind of sucks, but I've found that this is the only way to get through it all consistently every day if your deck is really big with a lot of still-maturing cards in it.

じゃまるをねんとうにおいていきてるぞい

I'm not serious about learning japanese at all but whenever I watch anime I can understand like 80% of the words I'm hearing and feel like it would be a waste not to learn the language at this point. how do I capitalize on this?

>>22638886
>whenever I watch anime I can understand like 80% of the words I'm hearing
uhuh, sure you can lol

>>22638889
sure, I can't prove it. but can't you just give me the benefit of the doubt and help me out here, anon?

>>22638903
why would i give you the benefit of the doubt when i know it's bullshit? regardless your question is answered by the guide in the op.

How do I make it through this bullshit? Thinking of just skipping 敬語 until I'm decent at Japanese but maybe that would be a mistake

>>22638910
I'm talking about individual words not longass sentences, every episode I encounter 5 new words at most

>>22638935
what is it you're trying to accomplish? sure hope u arent trying to memorize this

>>22638940
lol

>>22638945
Thinking about whether to make anki cards for every single one of these or just skip it. Tae Kim sentence cards use these vocabulary so I have to learn them or just delete the cards for this shit

>>22638955
if you do any premade deck you'll have those words in there cause they're the most common ones in japanese. doing individual cards for keigo is retarded, you dont need that shit but up to you.

>>22638935
Honestly I would just remember ですます to start, and then mine sentences that contain the others when you get to a point that you can manage them. They are easy to master once you get past a certain point. Same for 尊敬語/謙譲語.

Also, I have been living in Japan for over six years now, and I have never heard someone actually use おいでになる in work, family, or school settings.

>>22638940
can you tell us some recent words you learned

>>22638940
then it should be easy for you to read a grammar guide turn the eng subs off and watch raw until you can piece it all together

Happy Christmas Eve bros

>>22639071
uh sry christmas eve is almost 2 weeks from now

>>22638855
gonna tag @jamal here so i can make sure my feelings are heard

>>22638935
Also, just want to point out that tables like these are never complete or 100% accurate.

For example, this one says there is no honorific for 聞く, whereas in reality you will often hear お聞きになる/お聞きになります in Japan.

There are some simple rules that underlie all honorific word usage. Don't memorize charts, add sentences that contain them to your deck, or listen to Japanese if you really want to learn them once you progress enough. Debate programs, etc., where people converse with one another in a professional, polite manner can be good if you have the vocabulary/listening skills for it to hold your attention.

fuck music copyrights
half of my jpop remix list on soundcloud contains removed songs

>>22639204
>using soundcloud

>>22639164
the table is obviously for when alternative verbs are used ... it probably talks about the お~になる usages elsewhere

you can't be a lolicon without being into lolicore

i don't want to do anki help what do i do

>>22639364
don't do anki

>>22639364
not learn japanese

>なるようにしかならない
epic

My mom says she wants to learn English but I kind of feel like it's a hopeless endeavor
so far I'm thinking I will make her purchase Anki and download a good phrases and vocabulary deck for her
afterwards I'll get her the audiobook app I use and get her something she can listen to while in the car
but I suppose grammar may still be an issue and the fact that she can't feasible get enough input to get anywhere near basic proficiency

>>22639396
why does she want to learn it

>>22639410
English is just kind of ubiquitous everywhere in the world these days and not being able to understand shit you see on every billboard or t-shirt is probably not fun
also she works in a store and has to talk to costumers a lot as in advise them and all that and I imagine there are more than a few international costumers dropping by which are all of course going to be speaking English

>>22639420
seems like shitty reasons to learn english. when foreigners come into the store she can just direct them to someone who speaks it. i mean she's working in a store, that's not exactly the type of job you put in hundreds of hours of off-work time to get better at.

>>22639449
well it's a specific brand store with usually one or two employees occupying it not a supermarket chain
there is also a possibility she might be able to become the store manager but probably not without even knowing English
and it's not the sole reason either
really I think you can't live in today's world without knowing English I am just not confident she has reasonable chances to learn it

>>22639473
>really I think you can't live in today's world without knowing English
plenty of people do in italy, france and a bunch of slav countries, not to mention asia. she could probably learn enough to do what she wants in the store within a year of like an hour of work per day. the context limits the vocabulary she'd need since i assume theres a finite number of questions she can get asked.

but if she gets fluent in english she can watch spongebob and fairly odd parents in their original language

>>22639544
do people that learn other languages even mine words

>>22639553
Do other languages even have words?

Yeah mining shit in other languages is definitely less sensible. I can still see it working though. Japanese kanji is just particularly suited to mastering through a flashcard system.

how do people learn words like 悴む without a dictionary

>>22639640
why is it less sensiBle
dont you mine words written in kana too

あくびがでたら

>>22639641
reading manga and someone says it and they can't move their hands and it's cold very easy

みんなクリスマスはシラフですか

>>22639662
could still mean a lot of different things those clues dont narrow it down enough to Be certain

>>22639686
what else could 手が悴んで動かない mean in that context

>>22639544
I mine from books

tfw grew up english bilingual but second native language is useless slavshit

>>22639762
*off books

>>22639701
usually it wont Be written in such an oBvious way

any other cool anki games besides japanese?

>>22639828
why are you capitalising Bs

>>22636790
name?

>>22639860
it's written in white on the left

>>22639845
lowercase B is a sharex shortcut and i dont feel like changing the settings

guys
so i've thought of a method which is probably dumb but maybe not really

so im planning to find a text (song lyrics for example) and a translation, and keep comparing them and analysing to the point until i understand how all the grammar is translated and interpreted in the translation

this way ill 100% stumble across some hard shit and will have to google a lot

so eventually if I complete it with honestly ill learn new grammar and how to use it

is it dumb? im entry level

how would someone guess 鎌をかける without a dictionary

>>22639892
how do u communicate with ppl

>>22639911
wym im doing it right now

>>22639939
no like normal ppl

woke up tired with a headache. fuck today sucks already.

>>22639900
i'd suggest you to use the daisuke phrase-by-phrase google translate method

>>22639900
you can't understand grammar by looking at translations because translations necessarily have to be different because the language is completely different. there can be many different ways of translation one thing that might use completely different or even opposite constructions to the original. as a simple example 悪くない (a negative) could be translated as "decent" (a positive).

>>22639947
uh faceBook messenger, imessage

>>22639972
k then we good

>>22639902
because the rest of the sentence provides enough context to fill you in. "is he aiming to make me let something slip by ... ?" what could possibly make sense in the rest of it

i thought it just meant he was hanging a sickle

>>22639988
could mean to attack verBally

nothing aBout a 鎌 implies trickery, But violence or attack yes

>>22640009
doesn't sound like a good way of getting someone to spill their secrets

>>22639990
read a grammar guide like tae kim and then read whatever you feel like and google shit you don't understand. that's all you have to do

>>22639990
you can watch dolly's videos, or play around with the dojg deck or core2k/6k if you want to, but you'll only get good at japanese by trying to interpret sentences on their own (only using a bilingual dictionary at most).

downloaded like 3 j-drama with j-subs and now i feel obliged to watch them before deleting them though i don't wanna. =/

>>22640039
then don't man j-dramas seem terrible from what I've seen

>>22640014
torture is used for that purpose

i'm convinced normies can't learn through input hypothesis you need to be a real fucking nerd to consume so much media in a language you don't really understand

>>22640047
im assuming the context of the anime wasn't that the guy was being tortured. use your Brain

>>22640052
you just have to have a drive to learn. it's easy to do one hour of "studying" where you just read a book and try and figure shit out and look stuff up. and then as you get better it feels less and less like studying

damn j*nny really did number on this thread every other post has study or anki or input or guide in it lol

>>22640071
lol

>>22640078
what's so funny? i actually think it's easier for normies to learn languages because they're more diligent than neets and hikis who just jerk off all day and need their hit of dopamine every 2 seconds.

yea that's why normies learn japanese and neets and hikis dont oh wait

>>22639644
honestly I only rarely do
most things I mine have a kanji version which I always prefer
but if I do mine something in kana only I usually put a context snipped into the hint field on my cards

>>22640094
well i don't see any that have learned japanese around here? you'd expect to. whereas normies don't typically post online about it they just live their lives.

>>22640104
>well i don't see any that have learned japanese around here?
the best learners to ever grace this community were all neets at some point before getting good.

while we're reading eroge/h-manga, they're doing work or social life-related stuff.

i hate everyone of you but it's ok

>>22640062
why couldnt he? he could view the constant からかい as torture

normies just don't learn japanese. they learn useful languages. and it's pretty clear normies are better at learning languages cause you see a lot of people who can speak french, german, spanish, etc at a high level but not many foreigners can speak japanese at all. that's all the evidence you need that sitting around jacking off all day doesn't pay off.

>>22640104
you know the thing about Japanese is that it really is quite hard to learn to a high level
or rather than hard a really time intensive task, time that most people can't find the surplus or motivation to invest
so how come there actually exist people/normies who speak Japanese to a high level? well tell you what those are extreme edge cases which only exist due to stupidly high amount of people learning Japanese
and it's far more people than any statistic would tell you, Japan's entertainment industry influences the entire world significantly just consider that
if 0.0001% of learners ever achieved something significant that probably would still be people in the tens of thousands
now think, are you a part of that small subset of Japanese learners? lol

>>22640138
>now think, are you a part of that small subset of Japanese learners? lol
it's not fair IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>22638802
>>22638839
>>22638847
I'm doing it like I learnt English and Spanish: I study the grammar and then I read words in context (manga, anime, music, Visual Novels). the more I see a word in context, the easier it gets to learn it.

>>22640134
do you really think it's about what's paying off and what's not? people who do this are socially damaged. they're not ok, they're lost and confused and hiding in a shell of cheap dopamine (masturbation and anime). it's not healthy. it's not about enjoying this lifestyle, it's being a prisoner to it. it's very hard to break out of it.

>>22640138
i am
feels good

>>22640138
those numbers don't check out dude try revising some stuff b4 u fail maths :)

>>22640138
if 10s of thousands of learners was 0.0001% then there would be 10 billion learners of japanese

people who manage to learn a language like japanese are by definition not normalfags because it takes a statistically abnormal amount of dedication
unless youre a newfag who thinks a normie is just someone who doesnt spend all day in their mothers house jerking it to anime

wait so when people say hazuhaarimasen are they actually saying: "No! There's no nock in here?"

>>22640168
>>22640171
That was just an estimate bros but alright I ran the math
for there to be 10000 learners in that 0.0001% subset there would have to be 100 million Japanese learners
now personally I don't think that number is crazy, that might be how many people are learning
but I'm also fine wit saying it's a few thousand that's not a big difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-3hvEkJsm0

so is this guy a normie or not? obvs hes not a neet who lives in a basement but he consciously chose to move to japan and to learn japanese and he I assume not randomly picked up a job of explaining western memes to japanese people

i'm the 0.0001%

>>22640134
>people who know indo-european languages are good at learning other indo-european languages and bad at learning non-indo-european languages
how amazing

>>22640188
矢張りそうだろう

>>22640196
why do stupid women not understand the concept of rates and proportions?

>>22640196
no because a normalfag is someone like calvin or anime godfather who dont have any real dedication to anything even something as passive as just watching anime this guy worked hard to learn nip and get a job on tv its got nothing to do with dwelling in a basement

i learned more japanese by actively consuming nukige than by watching anime

imagine being 21 not knowing what per cent means

>>22640193
100%-10,000
10%-100,000
1%-1,000,000
.1%-10,000,000
.01%-100,000,000
.001%-1,000,000,000
.0001%-10,000,000,000
10 billion

i thought cs students were great at maths.

>>22640271
oh yeah lol I just noticed the issue is of course the % sign with which the whole would be '100' as opposed to be treating the whole as '1' which is how it's done in mathematics and probability calculation

>>22640291
we used 100 to represent 100% in math in hs

>>22640291
>how it's done in mathematics and probability calculation
Just stop. Any kind of math is not for you.

it's another case of "qm has to explain away his mistakes somehow"

calculate the percentage difference of the conversion from 正直 to 素直

>>22640321
I'm not explaining it away, I admitted to making a mistake and simply explained how it happened

>>22640321
i love those episodes

>>22640301
sounds like nonsense

>>22640330
>explained how it happened
it happened cause you're dumb there's no deeper reason where you were thinking on different plane from the rest of us as you like to believe

>>22640289
the only people who are good at math are math PhD candidates and even that's tenuous at best

>>22640337
>thinking on different plane
as you can tell by my explanation that is literally what happened I'm afraid!

100%=1/1
straight fax

>>22640342
this

>>22640344
i love when they do that hand sign in doujins

>>22639900
>is it dumb?
no it works
>im entry level
nvm its fucking dumb, translations dont help you learn until you can already understand most grammar structures

>>22640193
>0.0001%
>multiplies by 0.0001
>doesn't realize 0.0001 is 0.01%
Has QM literally failed at every point he's ever tried to make?

>>22640384
I already addressed this please read the thread
>>22640291

>>22640384
he's blaming german education it seems

>>22640386
You addressed your chronic and sustained failure across every field of endeavor? Bravo

QM's mathematical abilities are permanently crippled from learning numbers in German. Only superior English or Japanese speaking men are fit for higher level mathematics. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191121-why-you-might-be-counting-in-the-wrong-language

lmfao every time you deal with probability in math 1 = 100% and I just did a ケアレスミス with that admitting to it and pointing it out unbelievable the amount of venom in this thread

youre trying way to hard to show everyone you managed to pass calc 1

>>22640431
why did you randomly write two of your english words in katakana

>>22640431
and 0.0001%=10,000/10,000,000,000
You're still wrong in probability.

How are you supposed to actually write the kanji on paper when you're doing RTK? You'll be able to see the ones you already did. I've been just doing it on my hand with my finger, but I feel like I don't have enough visual feedback.

advantages that romance language speakers have -
knowing that per centum means over one hundred (/100)

>>22640435
calc 1 was the hardest out of the three imo

>>22640430
>which suggests that the children’s early mental representation of numbers may have been shaped by their language.
i just don't understand how these people think they're doing science and how redditors eat this shit up.

>>22640453
flip the page lmao

>>22640453
Here's your options from best to worst
>Don't do RTK
>Do RTK, but put kanji on the front of the card
>Do RTK normal, write it on paper
>Do RTK normal, write it like you're doing

>>22640453
try doing 1 stroke then look then another stroke in the beginning maybe

>>22640453
turn the paper over problem solved

>>22640461
What's your problem? Makes sense to me.
>For example, in French, 92 isquatre-vingt douzeor “four twenties and twelve”. And in Danish, the word for 92 istooghalvfems,wherehalvfems,meaning 90,is an abbreviation of the Old Norse wordhalvfemsindstyve,or “four and a half times twenty”.

>>22640471
>>22640465

I'm writing probably 50 a day!

>>22640475
and like the article says, "eleven" is not "transparently one 10 and one 1" but it doesn't actually matter. none of this matters. i bet this shit was popular on reddit

>>22640475
then aren't english speakers mathematically crippled too because we use twelve and sixteen, unlike in the extremely logical nihongo, where it's 十二 and 十六?

>>22640488
The teens only come up once in counting, you'll come across 90 every time you count past it 100 digits again and again

>>22640482
so what? buy more paper

just fucking shat myself on the way home from the bank. my stomach started rumbling while i was in queue shoulda just left then but i stayed like a retard and by the time i was at the counter those intense waves were hitting me and i was shaking lmao. got like 600 meters from my place and just couldnt hold it. nobody knows thank god. at least i didnt have to share an elevator with anyone reeking of shit.

>>22640498
it doesn't matter. you know what 92 is no matter what it's called because these are things that anyone who will ever get good at math will drill into their heads.

dont be too hard on the guy he can only use .00001% of his brain

>>22640497
chinese is like jap too, except even less crippled because they dont have the shit like hitotsu futatsu counting either. just plain boring numbers that probably contributes to why they act like bugmen hivemind

Reminder that you'll never feel any emotional connection to Japanese words
>Scientists are also beginning to distinguish between young children who grow up learning and speaking two languages as compared to those who learn a second language in adulthood. Children use both hemispheres of the brain to acquire language, which means they often grasp the emotional implications of language more deeply. In contrast, adults who learned a second language tend to approach problems presented to them in that language in a more rational, detached way. Scientists hypothesize thatit'sbecause adultsoften acquire language through the left hemisphere of the brain.
https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/46188/why-multilingual-people-have-healthier-more-engaged-brains

>>22640512
you and dogen, why do japanese learners shit themselves

i just visited /lgbt/ again, and i regret doing so

>>22640590
i already do tho

>>22640590
why would you crush my weak soul like that on christmas eve?

>>22640590
empirically incorrect just look at how much matt loves say maa and nanka and chotto you can tell he def feels those words in his soul

>>22640601
oh really? you feel offense by words like くそてめぇ？

>>22640618
do you get offended by seeing words like retarded nigger faggot kike bitch cunt this is 4channel lol were all desensitized

>>22640618
not really, but it's mostly because i've never heard somebody direct those words towards me

4chan made me more sensitive actually

>>22640627
Yes I do

>>22640654
you must be 18 years or older to post on this site

>>22640654
dumb millennialboomer snowflake

>>22640666
: (

an insult on 4chan obviously doesn't carry as much weight as an FB msg from my gf obviously, so this picture is kinda inaccurate but still

>>22640719
i act pretty similarly between both desu