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>>22564253
Blame previous OPs, not me. I didn't even notice.

>>22564060
Continuation.

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>>22564541
>tall bottom and short top
I will now play your game

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>>22564568
>Only pairing that doesn't get a sex preview
What are they hiding.

why don't you have drammatical murder in your rec list?

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>>22564630
Because it's shit, dunno is it even updated?

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>>22564636
>Tatoos

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>>22564668
And that's all there is for the U3C stuff. I'll scan the powder grey and other stuff later. If anyone wants me to scan a specific thing from the list I made back here >>22563332 , then let me know.

>>22564668
This is the dude voiced by Minakami.

>>22564673
Thanks for scanning.

>>22564673
Thanks for sharing these.

>>22564651
At least they're subtle and somewhat tasteful.

Honestly, smoking kills my boner more than tattoos do.

This is not really new Hashihime content, it's descriptions of the short stories in previous Cool B issues alongside the illustrations made for them. Spoilered because they're afterstories.

Also tamamori has a babydick

>>22564877

It's a lot of shit mashed together onto one page, but here it is, the powder gray feature.

Is Hashihime still worth playing even if I half learned all the plot details from lurking in these threads?

>>22564877
Those are nice images... the more I see of her art, the more I like it. It has a subdued quality to it that you don't normally see in BL/Otome works.

>>22564938
Yes. Because you haven't learned all of them. It's also a wild ride worth taking at least once.

>>22564924
Looks like a sad derpfest but 3/5 boys are cute.

>>22565219
I have a huge backlog already so I'll wait a few months until I've forgotten everything I guess.

2020 is looking good, but can we all play Animamundi and discuss it? I've only heard maybe three people talk about it, ever.

How do you kill him

Is sb69 posting allowed here? I saw some anons hoping the new game would be good and they posted the 3D models and home screen today. Animation looks quite smooth

>>22564621
What's funnest to me is that he looks like the Mob Otome MC
How the hell did he ever think he looked like a background character

>>22565854
Every male isekai MC needs their victimized sad sack of shit points, even if it doesn't really make sense. Gotta have that day of retribution.

>>22565312
I've played it a million years ago and only remember being let down by sandwich-kun's route.

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>>22564891
What the heck is going on in Hanazawa and Minakami after stories? Why are they naked?

>>22565212
Her style evolved nicely, I only wish she added more muscles to her in-game CG since apparently she can do them now.

>>22564938
Sure thing, I don't it would diminish the emotional highs of Minakami's route.

>>22564234
>What's your favorite sex scene?
Aoba riding Noiz dick. Idk sex scenes are always kinda retarded.

>>22565212
I've not played Hashihime yet but I've always had a soft spot for artstyles that didn't use wacky anime hair colours.

>Kawase is more popular than Minakami in Japan
Linda expected, though I wonder what's people's opinion of the routes themselves.

In the west it seems the opposite?

>>22567667
As expected of Japan to have exquisite taste

>>22567667
It's probably because
>Bad boy, but not rapey
>Ending is more open, therefor easy to come up with fun scenarios later
>Threesome potential
Also personally I felt like he had more "self insert" power, as opposed to Minakami which reasons to like Tamamori are deeply ingrained into their personalities and you can't imagine him liking the player.

In comparison Minakami is probably a bit "boring" for some people and their ending doesn't leave much to the imagination, they are pretty much married. All their fics in JP seem largely to be variations of the same scenarios.
In the west Minakani route seem to be more popular for sure, but I don't know about the characters.

That rec list is so old.
It does remind me of when you could count the number of translated games on your hands though.

>>22568148
You kinda still do..

>>22568241
Not that Anon, but at the very least it's not limited to what you can count on two hands.

>>22568283
Disregard this I suck cocks and didn't remember that counting on hands still means within two hands

>>22568241
There's probably at least a good 20-30 BL or otome VNs in english (fan patched or with official releases) worth playing now which is a lot compared to 5 or 6 years ago.

Though most english speaking otome people just seem to play those shitty looking unvoiced mobile games of which there are seemingly hundreds translated. I've never played any cause they seemed like garbage.

>>22568296
Otome and BL are different audiences. Not everyone will have interest in both, so grouping them together in rec charts is a bit odd.

Otome did indeed got better in recent years, a lot of consoles releases, etc. But BL is still a super small niche and a lot of stuff we are getting is either old stuff getting retranslated (wow can't wait to play TnC in 20fucking20) or plain awful.

>>22565696
Try the mobage general >>22541737 since it's omipandering.

Have any actual decent BL or otome oelvn ever been made?

>>22568445
TnC and DMMM have a couple of decent routes/characters but overall the "core" product is kinda stupid and the story is lol. They are enjoyable with the right expectations, in a way trashy novels are.
Buttler Game is nice if you are looking for porn.
I thought NTY was dull, unsatisfying both narrative wise and sex wise.
Didn't play Meat shit Babies.
Hashihime is the first novel I felt it was "great" "despite" being BL. The core story/main route is solid and feels written as a story first, which I think it's rare for the genre. It offers a decent side route too. Third and last route are bad, but I'm used to VN having a couple of bad routes, even the most famous popular ones do. It's something that I don't think you can escape if you try to mix "dating sim" mechanics with a decent story. Overall it's probably something I think one can enjoy as long they don't mind M/M, if offers a good love story with some good twist and a decent atmosphere.
Does Umineko Ep. 7 count?

>>22568445
Any promising project like that is destined to be stuck in dev hell, only Sakura shovelware and its ilk ever gets finished.

>>22568445
Does Long Live the Queen count

>>22568445
Not that I can think of.

>>22568540
They're talking about original English games, chief.

>>22568540
I was talking about original english language visual novels. I know there's plenty of decent (and some genuinely good) japanese ones that have been translated. I mean shit like Dream Daddy or Hustle Cat or whatever that was made in the west.

I would agree that there's not really any female-targeted VNs that I'd reccomend to a general audience though.

>>22568585
>I would agree that there's not really any female-targeted VNs that I'd reccomend to a general audience though.
That doesn't have much to do with the quality though, it's just that straight dudes have this weird notion that female media is "inferior" and BL is off limit.

>>22564594
Her tumblr also shows a "sex" scene between them
>https://kurosawarinko.tumblr.com/post/185972460577/%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9c%E5%89%8D%E6%97%A5%E8%AD%9A%E2%91%A1-%E4%BF%AE%E6%AD%A3%E3%81%97%E3%81%BE%E3%81%97%E3%81%9F

Still, 4 sex scenes are a lot, I guess they are going to get together during the game? The third couple is childhood friends, I wonder if they are already together.

>>22568614
The first pair has been a couple for a while now, but they still have sex like they've just gotten together.

>>22568865
>The first pair has been a couple for a while now, but they still have sex like they've just gotten together.
Is that your opinion or the author word?

>>22568589
>straight dudes have this weird notion that female media is "inferior" and BL is off limit.
No, it's because playing something where you get cozy listening the sweet voices of men is gay as fuck and they wish to stay straight.
>>22568445
I thought Cerulean Hearts was super cute and I want to headpat the MC, but it's probably dead because it makes no money.

>>22568969
>No, it's because playing something where you get cozy listening the sweet voices of men is gay as fuck and they wish to stay straight.
Women and gay men have no problem playing media aimed at men, though.

>>22568895
Word of God.

>>22569016
Nips autism t sex is always amazing.

>>22569012
That's because 2d girls are universally appealing. Cute 2d boys are too. Not all 2d men are.

>>22569012
Women and gay men are used to seeing images of sexualised women in basically all media, whereas sexualised men (as in made to be sexually attractive to a female/gay male audience) are much rarer at least in anything targeted at a general audience. Straight men haven't learned to deal with it.

I think this is the real reason there was so much sperging out about Twilight/Bieber/etc. in the earlier part of the decade.

>>22569112
Straight men are pussies. Reminds me when Given was airing last season and some people picked it up (Since it's BL elements are mostly subdued and there is nothing too explicit) and went "wow, this is enjoyable and doesn't give me eyecacer."

>>22569016
Lame, hopefully it's not the case for the other couples. I think she did a good job with the sex scenes in Hashihime, despite how much some SS/post-owrk like to bastardize Taamori's tsun at times.

>>22569012
I dont see many girls get excited for galge that isnt by Key and Nekopara. I dont know what gaiman think or do. I think girls that dont into otomebl go for vns with universal appeal, generally only plot focused but with enough subtext for shipping shit. Point is real male aimed eroge and straight girls dont mesh.

>>22569207
>I dont see many girls get excited for galge that isnt by Key and Nekopara.
No, but I see VN like S;G, Muv-Luv, FSN being recommended to everyone.

>>22568545
That reminds me they did actually make an otome game once, but I guess it didn't sell that much compared to sakura shovelware cause as far as I know they never made one again.

>>22569217
>vns with universal appeal, generally only plot focused
Remove "only" and it would still apply. No one likes Extra or the sex scenes in Fate, everyone has to either trudge through them or skip them to get to crazy shit people want. The harem elements in SG is not why it's so highly acclaimed.

>>22569207
Do girls like Nekopara? I remember some of the old doujins giving the catgirls these elaborate goth loli style outfits and the art style being more reminiscent of shoujo manga than usual ero stuff but that stuff doesn't really seem to be in the games.

>>22569274
>Universal appeal
MUV-LUV is literally a harem with chicks fighting half naked and shit. Half of stein;gate is dedicated to setting up Okabe with various girls. The otaku centrist nature of these stories is deeply ingrained into them.

>>22569304
I know some who think the designs are cute, though they're not actually into the slavery part.

>>22569425
I find that 2000s forum avatar goth loli style really nostalgic but I have zero interest in actually playing any of the games.

Please give me recommendations on good games with male prostitutes (w/ female clients) please? Bonus points if it's a Yoshiwara setting.

>>22569018
Part of it, I think, is that the people who tend to create these kinds of works have extremely limited sexual experiences themselves. And are the opposite gender to boot. So you get lots of KIMOCHI~ virgin sex without lube or stretching, weirdness around swallowing cum, sensitive nipple play, and one partner being a woman in every way except for possessing a penis.

If you go outside of anime and porn, there are more normal expressions and experiences to be had. But when you have otaku writing for otaku you get a strange and warped view of what sex is like, each generation passing down flawed wisdom that doesn't have much to do with the real world. And it's fine. I like retreating to VNs and manga. But I can only read so much porn before I get irritated.

The trick to never getting irritated about weird VN sex is to never have sex irl.

>>22569727
A lot of them know but don't give a shit because they don't care for realism in their escapism.

>>22569304
I went to a nekopara panel at a con and there were many girls there, getting just as excited for cat girl doing cute thing as the guys.
>>22569338
But online the discussion is not focused on those parts (unless the userbase is clearly all male) people read SG and the SciAdv series for a satisfying competent sci fi story and mubrub for a Michael Bay sci fi melodrama and Fate for peak chuunigarbage. Those not into the girls sexually can look past the otaku qualities because they execute the elements of their genres so well they've become the go to, most popular recs for those genres. But with bl/og stuff I feel like theres nothing plotwise that is so unique or that is so great that a person adverse to the homo flirty parts could look past it for any other element, instead of finding something else to read.

>>22569727
Eh, it's not like straight sex in VN is very realistic either. Personally I only care that both partner are into it, bottom wanting to get fucked is the best.

But when you look at nips romance, there is a general lack of intimacy even when the characters get together, look at Clannad and similar or how couple only get "together" after 700 chapters.

>>22569727
Fujos are made fun of on a regular bases for how unrealistic and weird their shit is. In Japan this gets on TV, it trends on twitter. They know full well at this point they just don't give a single fuck because fiction =/= reality.

>>22569794
>But online the discussion is not focused on those parts (unless the userbase is clearly all male)
>Fateshit
>Anything but waifu war 50% of the time

>>22569778
This. It's like the gigantic balloon tits in porn aimed at straight guys. The artists obviously know those tits don't make sense but it's just porn.

>>22569811
>Fujos are made fun of on a regular bases for how unrealistic and weird their shit is
Fujos are made fun because otaku have massive women issues and hate the idea of them invading their space. Most "fujo" stuff isn't even that weird compared to some really fucked up otaku stuff that daily air on TV. Otome are also looked down for the very season reason.

Then you have woke twitter who likes to look better because hurr hurr fetish.

>>22569727
>But when you have otaku writing for otaku you get a
perfectly valid fantasy for your mental wank bank. That's its entire purpose.

>>22569826
I mean in Japan there's been TV segments and viral online shit for normalfags making fun of them, so it's not like they're not self-aware at this point in 2019. Also I don't think nip otaku's problems with fujos includes "invading their space" considering from what I've observed, nip fujos like to segregate themselves from men as much as possible.

>>22569778
Constantly seeing the usual unrealistic ero tropes gives people fetishes for them, and so the cycle contines, with each iteration getting further and further from reality. Things like ultra sensitive nipples are something people have fetishes for.

Hentai for straight men is way worse than this than BL is though. Cervix penetration, girls being aroused by phimosis (the most baffling to me), even more tame stuff like heart pupils and x-ray scenes can only exist in hentai.

Furries and vore are the extreme end of this, where the fetish is almost totally removed from any kind of reality and can't even be enacted irl if you wanted to (yeah fursuits but thats not the same as fucking a real anthropomorphic wolf or whatever).

>>22569817
U got me there, but in my defense I was only thinking of mubbu and sg while typing that and added fate at the end because it was the other one mentioned. Most Fate discussion I see is about GO and I'm pretty sure there's plenty of fujo/yumejoshi/""""straight"""" trap lovers in that fanbase.

Also another anon mentioned Umineko as a kind of joke but that and some others are examples of gay stuff in not gay vns that are tolerated/looked past because the work has other things a non fujo can get out of it.

>>22569846
>I mean in Japan there's been TV segments and viral online shit for normalfags making fun of them, so it's not like they're not self-aware at this point in 2019
>>22569846
Yes, but the point is fucking retarded. I don't know how the people who wanks to little girls gure incest hentai and iseakai shit with all kind of fetishes get to laugh at women for... shipping gays? Sure, they have weird shit like ABO, but have you seen the stuff otaku put out?
>Also I don't think nip otaku's problems with fujos includes "invading their space" considering from what I've observed, nip fujos like to segregate themselves from men as much as possible.
It's not that I meant, even if they segregate themselves they hate when studio/etc pander to them. Look at something like Free. Or /a/ every time a fujopandering anime is announced (Even though they could just not watch them) Or hack, look at reactions to MG announcing homo stuff some time ago.

>>22569889
I doubt anything in Umineko was made to pander fujo (I mean, it's possible R07 was pandering to the female fanbase when designing Will, but it's not like it was the first thing in its mind) and the "gay" stuff are kinda hidden and come to late anyway.

>>22569846
normalfag fascination with fujos is weird to me. I don't know how its any different than any other weird otaku shit to warrant singling out.

>>22569929
Come on, everyone knows why.

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>>22569778
I'm normally not one to care about realism, but I think it would really enhance h-scenes. A lot of the time h-scenes look like one character masturbating into another rather than proper intimacy. So many times I have seen characters who are supposed to be romantically involved not even kissing, caressing, etc. There's no meaningful or arousing dialogue either. It's dead and lifeless like 3D porn, which is strange considering how much effort goes into writing the characters otherwise.

>>22569946
I don't think I've really had that problem. I can even think of things where they kiss so much its kind of gross, especially when they're talking at the same time. Mebiusline was a big offender of this.

>>22569929
The idea of creepy pervert women is seen as a novelty.

>>22569259
I remember this used to actually be free, not sure what they changed to it to start charging some money. Also thought it was made by a random indie dev but I guess this was one of their first projects before they moved onto just doing the Sakura games.

>>22569727
>weirdness around swallowing cum
having hangups about swallowing is not weird at all, especially for inexperienced people
more confusing is the coming inside thing for anal, especially their apparent belief that it will "upset your stomach" which I guess might be an euphemism for farting cum or something.
That reminds me, Hashihime was pretty autistic about scooping out cum afterward too.

Who is this supposed to be?

Anyone looking forward to Olympia? Is there any news for localization to localize otome?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbBwWm-jzpI&feature=emb_title

Did anyone play gunka? That one series that had an isekaied mc as a route?

>>22572100
Cat people. Very cute. Little language changes like using the counters for animals instead of people.

>>22569797
>>22569946
The only time VN sex scenes end up halfway decent is when they don't even show them and just stick to foreplay and then cut to black. Then - and only then - they sort of get it right.

>>22570638
>That reminds me, Hashihime was pretty autistic about scooping out cum afterward too.
She definitely has a "cumming inside" fetish. And that's pretty damn fine.

>>22571957
A trap, apparently.

>>22572017
>Switch
I sleep. Let me know when they port it to PC or Switch emulation gets good enough.

>>22572100
I played the trial but no one's uploaded the game anywhere yet to my knowledge.

I'm really curious about it because it's got involvment by the same scenario writer as Shinigami to Shoujo and Taisho Alice, fujifumi. Also because dumb cat people stuff where yeah they use 一匹 or あの猫 instead of 一人 or あの人. Isekai-kun seemed cute.

It came across as your usual palace drama/succession crisis thing but with cat people until isekai-kun drops in and it turns into a strange self aware isekai parody. I liked the MC from what I saw of her, you don't get many with the だぞ, だな, お前 masculine style speech pattern and added to her kind of autistic obsession with humans and being a catgirl she was cute.

If anyone would like a very rough key points pick of the UltraC feature: https://pastebin.com/LSEXZEkP

>>22573102
>strange self aware isekai parody
>masculine style speech pattern
From how you're describing it, this game sounds great. Took a look at the Amazon jp reviews and the one complaining about not enough sweetness is probably looking for something different than most of us, anyway.

>>22573832
>normally take human form, but will transform if riled up
sex with Godzilla confirmed

>>22573832
Amazon jp reviews for otome are usually garbage, always a couple of people giving good games a 1 for having a MC with an actual personality because they found her unrelateable or whatever.

>>22573102
>no one's uploaded the game anywhere yet
Vita ver. is up if you have access to that at all

>>22574308
>there's someone out there who geniunely relates to wet cardboard self-insert-chans

>>22574428
Somebody has to, since they keep making them. But self-inserting has always seemed incomprehensibly crazy to me.

>>22574428
The whole harem genre for straight dude is literally that.

>>22574308
5 star reviews are worse because they tend to overrate the game. The ones in between are more honest.

The only time an otome MC has ever had 'too much personality' for me was in that Tsubasa no Oka r18 game but that was more because she was hardly even the mc, we were never in her persepective, it was like she was just some woman all the guys were in love with. Also because she basically raped megane butler (and on every route too).

>>22574596
Picked up.

>>22574905
It's not a good game but it has better ero scenes than usual for R18 otome. I guess you could call it gentle femdom type stuff? No MC screaming 'iyaaaaaaa' constantly which I appreciated. Nice art too.

The main issue is that the structure is a total mess. Constantly switching perspective to random reoccuring side characters for maybe 4-5 line scenes that you would think were going to lead to something but never do. I guess they're there to build atmosphere but that atmosphere isn't really used for anything either. The actual plot I did not care about at all though the fae folk aesthetic was nice.

Shame cause there's potential in it for it to have been good.

>>22574313
What, in some kind of secret club? I'm not seeing it on the usual site.

>>22575782
It's literally outright available on NPS, get with the times

>>22569207
Well there's a huge audience for stuff like love live in girls circles

>>22569727
Even then i hate how sex scenes with girls play out for exactly the same reasons you said. It feels awkward, fragile, and like they're stimulated by the slightest touches to be sent in a moaning fit. And the guys lack a lot too. Feels less dreamlike and more tiring to read/hear yet another story where the self insert comes just from her nipples being teased

Does this expression ever happens in the story? I remember him getting angry and opening his eyes for Kawase, but this is a total blur for me and I' can't picture a moment in which it would happen mostly because he looks genuinely happy..

After playing Pigeon Blood I can't help but grin when I hear Hanae Natsuki's voice

>>22579013
Jesus Christ, I didn't even know Hanae worked on this kind of stuff. Times are changing. Is it worth playing?

https://youtu.be/KTXRf81pweI

Anyone played this?

>>22579064
I mean, if you liked Shingakkou and/or Paradise you'll probably like it. Or at least you'll get deja vu.
If you never played Pil/Slash games before, expect some pretty gross jump scare horror (in this case it's pretty much a slasher movie plot), shiyamalan-tier twists and diabolical bad ends. The porn could be better but it's much lewder than the usual BL/Otome at any rate. Hope you like ryona.

I brought up Hanae because the MC gets fucked by zombie dogs and stuff.

>>22579263
I haven't played Paradise and I haven't quite finished Shingakkou, but I do like ryona and I think slasher plots are fun/funny so I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for the honest review, Anon.

>>22579282
The main drawback I think is that the characters are giant dicks, but they're generally more dere than they look.

>>22571957
What a cute boy. I hope they don't age him up in his route.

>>22579067
All of this company's escape games are good. This one's probably still my favorite even though Tasokare Hotel and Tsumugu Logic are higher quality.

>>22580893
How homo is it?

>>22580656
Sauce?

>>22581068
Kintouka

>>22581052
None.

>>22581179
Really? Cast looks like 99% boys

>>22565312
>eng translated
>on animebytes
i'll read it for you, anon

>>22569727
i would like it if there were more attention paid to the other parts of the body
ears are sensitive, for example

>>22565312
Oh alright, I was thinking of giving the jp version a try anyway.

>>22582245
>>22584728
We're going to have a fruity, fruity time.

Minakami Drama CD:
>https://mega.nz/#!FsVUBK5C!R2_J1aSQDKCtljB2NhEiRUPiRBbgq5WtRSA2_TlHKPg
>https://mega.nz/#!wkUmgQCR!mUBxrkQZVpD7p6sr5i9Yh6eaTthRWtSX1kYTWV-KBSc

I'll probably get Kawase one at one point too.

They are also in the updated pastebin
>https://pastebin.com/gc1ieJfS

>>22585235
haha wow this is amazing, not only does this look like a 90s JRPG with shoujo fantasy designs, but it sounds like a swashbuckler film/tv series from 50+ years ago

>>22585235
my only complaint is the game itself is really tiny
i'll have to look into raising aspect ratios or whatever

>>22587301
Thank you, I'm definitely looking forward to Kawase's.

otomedream must be destroyed

>>22588052
Just learn Chinese sis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BViGElSJ9xI

Is there any romanceable character that you can think of with bedroom eyes?

>>22588052
Did anyone manage to download shit from there?

>>22588982
Yes but years ago before they did some changes to the point system. Too bad my account seems to be deleted because of inactivity.

>>22588244
I hate it so much

>>22588244
Better than the first ones, honestly.

>>22588880
Nitta maybe?

>>22589206
Nayrt but it's kind of too repetitive to ever be as catchy as hypmic songs.

>>22589228
I was thinking of more of an eyebags approach.

>>22564234
What do you often like to see in an Otome Villainess?

>>22589492
I'd like to actually see one for starters.

The otome villainess genre is so bizzare because it seems like none of the people making them have ever even played an otome game, they're just copying other 'otome villianess' stories. Or they just don't care (probably more likely).

I can't think of a single otome game with some ojou-sama already engaged to a love interest as a villain. You're more likely to have the engaged ojou-sama character as the MC from the start. There's also not many otome games set in the 'vaguely european RPG world with aristocrats and magic schools' that's always used in the genre.

I'd like to see an actual otome game that uses the villainess genre format though.

>>22588880
For me it's Kanato

>>22589332
Akazukin has pretty bad eyebags and is best boy.

>>22590491
Couldn't unsee palette swapped Menb whenever he was on screen.

>>22590091
Aren't "Otome Villainesses" basically just somewhat glorified Homewreckers?

Who is the biggest Sacchin of otome/BL?

>>22588244
This song is pretty boring.

Who is the biggest Sacchin of otome/BL?

>>22591115
>gets all the tropey childhood friend moments and lines
>it goes nowhere
isn't it sad, Tokino

>>22590091
Wasn't one of the earliest of the trend based on a fictional shoujo manga? Maybe they just combined tropes somewhere along the lines

>>22590730
No, but you see, the Heroine is the homewrecker because she came between the prince and the villainess!
Also can I just say how weird the placement of the Heroine character in these stories are? She's either a true bitch (and thus the REAL villainess in the changed timeline) some innocent dragged along or the villainess' fangirl

Some of the villianess stories I've read have had the villianess aspect be so meaningless I had no idea why they even bothered with the whole isekai thing and not just make an original story in the first place. Isekai gets more clicks on narou I guess. You can't self insert as the MC unless they're also an ordinary high school student/office worker from modern japan.

I know I'm probably late to the talk, but Hashihime last route spoilers

>Second route tells me child grooming and pedos are bad, and killing pedos is good
>Last route wants me to fap and be happy for the MC who groomed is retarded son into a fucktoy

What's the message here? Anyone else thinks it makes no sense?

>>22591115
That brow dude from DMMD

>>22591670
Well, Tamamori that fucks Kaoru is not the Tamamori that raised him from childhood so it's a little less gross.

But yeah, if only he didn't come off so ahem developmentally challenged it would have been alright with me.

>>22591766
Yeah but Kaoru see no difference between the two, also him being literally retarded and mentally 5 years old makes him a victim since he's unable to chose or understand anything going on. He was pretty much groomed as Tamamori's fucktoy by taking advantage of his codependency. How is that Tamamori better than Ikeda or Kawase's father? The story tells me these two are bad, but fucking a 5 years old man child with codependency issue isn't?
Fucking Kawase would probably slap that Tamamori.

So I was pretty enthusiastic about A3 until the first event. I haven't touched the JP version before due to laziness, so I didn't really know what I was getting into in terms of grind.

The events are made for fucking whales without life and need to sleep or those who share accounts or use bots/whatever. It's pretty much impossible to get good rewards (not even talking about the rank here) without spending whole money and time in game. I prefer my im@s games, at least I can get my rewards in them with going yukkuri.

Even though A3 has some great boys and overall the guys aren't that bad (I only hate single ones), the game system itself made me drop it. At least I'll have more time for other shit and maybe my vita backlog.

>>22592115
Can't really agree on this one. I'm in the top 5% and haven't spent any money. But to be fair, I did spend around 500 of my free gems.
At first I was really on the fence about A3 because it doesn't have any gameplay at all, but this event has showed me that its no-brainer grinding system is what's making it a fun app in-between. I'm just letting the practices run on auto next to me (with the occasional event pop-up taking less than 30 sec of my time) while I play on my Switch, and that's it.
With rhythm games, you actually have to be on the phone and actively tapping away all the time. I remember that Ichu events were hell until I got enough GRs to built multiple strong teams.

>>22591670
>>22591766
>>22591892
Even the language used is pretty pedo, with Tamamori mentioning "I taught him how to do these stuff and he complied, so I felt like I corrupted him" and of course Kaoru being unable to understand simple concepts during the sex scene. Felt like he was talking about a little kid or a dog.
I really don't care about fucked up things in fictions, but this felt like oddly tonally different to anything I read up to that point. I wish the author had at least gone full insane route, just to nail how different that Tamamori is and how far he's gone, instead of trying to sell their relationship as romantic.

I can't ever hear Okiayu the same way again after reading the disaster that was Enishi's route(s) in KgK

>>22588244
At least the meowing turns me on

>>22592784
feels like the last route was foreshadowed here, which i love

>>22587301
thanks for the hard work, anon

>>22593432
What in it was a disaster?

>>22592575
I didn't want to use my gems for an event, I also don't do this in other games, as it is simply not necessary.

The auto play feature is nice for sure, the SSR rate is also quite generous. During the event gacha I had two rolls where each had 3 SSRs.

I think I might just prefer another type of games, as with the rhythm games I can actually see my own progress - FCing songs I couldn't when I started etc.
Can't speak for other franchises as I play im@s only, but they have various options where you don't need to play songs all the time if you are in just for both of the event cards.

>>22593993
Isn't it a throwaway line in the professor route? Or Hanazawa? That's some poor foreshadowing. It's not even "all a dream", anywya. There is zero ambiguity because the author straight up goes "lol it was all an AU, don't worry."

>>22594660
There are basically no throwaway references in Hashihime, especially of literary works

Started Hashihime, I thought people were just hyping it because EOPs crowd around anything translated but it looks like it's actually good, the atmosphere is so cozy.

Kind of regretting playing in Japanese though because those handwritten sections are a nightmare to try and parse through.

>>22594237
It was just ridiculously melodramatic and Kayo's became more and more stupid and damsel in distress-y as the route went on. Like, the whole "you can't be with me your status is too high uguu :(" was so unnecessary. I mean, it was necessary, I guess, because people eat this shit up, but it went on for too long. It was just so different from the other routes. Also in one of the Vita only scenes Okiyau hams it up way too hard.

Also, this is just personal preference, I don't like drinkers very much

>>22596491
Be sure to tell us your thoughts, Anon.

>>22596549
I already know a few of the spoilers unfortunately, half-learned through conversations people had here. Something about the last route involving the shopkeeper being Tamamori from the future(?) and keeping his mentally disabled stepson in the basement who he fucks? Also that there's reincarnation involved and Tamamori and Minakami were lovers in a past life or something. I know these might be totally off of course.

I'm not hugely into BL so I thought I'd never play it before I looked at the description and realised that it was actually the sort of thing I'd really be into. Kind of a shame cause I really wish I could have gone in fresh for it.

>>22596491
I think it might objectively be the best written VN I've played so far. There are others I like more because the themes appeal to me particularly or the porn is great and so on, but this one is just very solid. For a time loop story it also has relatively little repetition and filler so it doesn't really get monotonous (compared to eg Higurashi/Umineko.) All the little details turn out to be Chekhov's guns.

Also I'm a sucker for Taisho era settings and eroguro/ryouki authors so

>>22596669
I wouldn't call it the best ever, but it's certainly the best the best BL VN we got (Not that the bar is very high) and a very solid, but flawed work with a pretty good M/M love story that don't fall for the usual trite stereotypes.

I've heard a lot that the first route (Minakami's I think?) is the best one and it goes downhill from there.

>>22596777
I enjoyed the novel up to the first route, even with the bad third route. It's just that the story's structure is kinda wack and the opposite of what you usually get in VN.

>>22596669
you are also a man of taste.jpg

And you've just lead me to discovering the history behind the term "ryona"

Also, were you that anon that uploaded the dlsite gyaku ryona years ago on /a/ ?

>>22597087
>the dlsite gyaku ryona years ago on /a/ ?
... this one? yes, actually. I completely forgot about it. I even forgot the pw to that mega account
It was very fun.

ryouki and ryona are only loosely related though, ryouki is more about the bizarre and deviancy aspects while ryona is about the gore. It's like reading a serial killer's biography vs watching some slasher/snuff film

>>22596777
kawase's is the best, but hanazawa's route is the patrician choice (you have to be very smart to parse out the latent meaning in that route, take notes)

>>22597762
>kawase's is the best, but hanazawa's route is the patrician choice (you have to be very smart to parse out the latent meaning in that route, take notes)

>>22597772
Are you saying you don't wanna hang out on a prehistoric island with your big dicked boyfriend?

>>22597795
He's hot and everything, but his route is dogshit and his reason for liking Tamamori retarded.

>>22597762
I like how at first he's presented as that reliable nii-san Tamamori can count on and then ends up being a turboautist with some really strange ideas.
And boring childhood friend turns out to be the one that's most mysterious. And rapechin doS-kun is a real human bean with some seriously heavy shit in the past. And a creepy yandere alert character is just very much in love. And the spooky monster would never hurt MC in his life.

Kawase using honorifics for Tamamori but not Minakami is kind of weird. Maybe significant to their relationships in some way but I don't know, I'm still not very far in.

I'm guessing they probably didn't leave the honorifics in for the english version but I'm not bothered to check.

>>22597880
They did (and it's even explained in his character summary in the extras section why he does it).

>>22597795
Use spoilers jerk
.

>>22597879
> And rapechin doS-kun
Kek, I used to think he of him that way too. When the sex scene hit and he even asks Tamamori if he wanted to dick him, it was pretty surprising.

>>22587301
Thank you kindly, my good anon.

>>22597879
>>22597879
Haha, yeah. That's what I was thinking of as well before I got into Hanazawa's route. That cool reliable image of him that I had crumbled the farther I was in his route. No wonder Kawase believed the Professor was a terrible influence with his outlandish scientific ideas.

I didn't mind Hanazawa being a shithead, I like flawed character. But it's route is simply too rushed and too poorly told in contrast to Kawase and Minakami, and his reason for like Tamamori is simply just unbelievable. The character deserves a far bigger route.

I always wonder how companies can afford top tier voice actors/decent composers but completely shit the bed when it comes to artists

>>22598256
You can always find a friend of a friend who will do character art for cheap, but voice acting is a pro business.

>>22598256
At the time that game looks like it was made (mid 2000s?) the vast majority of VNs seemed to have had shitty sub-amateur art even if they had an all-star voice cast. I can think of very few genuinely nice looking VNs from that time period. If it's not poorly drawn it uses that godawful 2000s art style with the huge hair and pointy chins.

It's weird because 90s eroge art and such is usually quite nice. Part of it might be that digital artists of the time didn't quite know what to do with the freedom of colour they could have with new technology and just went straight to beige 'realistic' colours, like how mid 2000s anime tends to be dull and ugly looking too. Though that doesn't really explain the way people are drawn.

cried a bit when tama left blind, maidless professor all alone. like wtf bro. this man confesses his love to you, loses his caretakers and etc, and you fuckin run away?

and as a maidfag i'm PISSED that the maids aren't alive in gold digger tama route.

>>22598256
i took a picture of baby lilith because she made me giggle irl but fuck if i can find it

>>22598769
FOUND HER

The Professor is cute. Hope he stays that way and doesn't go yandere and rape or imprison Tamamori later on.

Also I love how much of a scumbag Tamamori is. Poor Professor being used for a free meal.

>>22598766
>spoiler
Yeah, I feel you on that one. Maidfags unite.

>>22598779
Professor isn't best boy but he's my personal favorite. Have fun, Anon. It's a wild ride.

>>22598772
Ｒ Ｏ Ｕ Ｎ Ｄ

>>22598772
she looks so pleased

>>22598772
looks like the happy version of this

>>22598766
I couldn't accept Hakase's ending because of that.

It's absolutely in line with Tamamori's cowardly and selfish personality to run away and convince himself he's making it up to the Hakase he abandoned to make one in a different timeline happy. But to me as a reader, I couldn't enjoy the sex scenes at all since I was still very fucking confused, sad, and angry over how the original Hakase was left all alone after already suffering so much.

If the author intended that bit of cognitive dissonance, bravo. If not, then what the fuck who in their right mind could think that's OK?

I want to protect the Professor

>>22599061
i want to bully him until he cries

The art is pretty simple but I like how there's a lot of CGs even for random shit. In a lot of VNs you only get them for ero (or if it's all ages kiss) scenes and then maybe a couple general ones.

>>22598903
>>22598766
>>22598791
I mean.... you can apply this logic to the whole novel, you don't actually ever traveler back in time, you merely jump to another world and try to change the past of that one. Your past world, etc, is never going to be affected. It's not to much of a problem in Minakami's route because Tamamori's experience is linear and Minakami always dies. Tamamori at least seemed to jump back in time in the professor route in attempt to genuine free him from the Shopkeeper's influence.

But to be honest, the novel never really seemed interesting in discussing the "ethic of time traveling much" and the existence of multiple world, unlike for example something like Higurashi, so I'm not sure how much the player is supposed to analyze it?.

Also I felt bad for the Professor during that scene, but this was the broke me since I'm a Minakamifag.

>and as a maidfag i'm PISSED that the maids aren't alive in gold digger tama route.
That basically exist to have Tamamori develop feelings him since he basically goes "I'll carry for them". I wonder what Hikawa thinks of the situation, in the SS he gets a look at his other self who was abandoned.

>>22599330
The maids would have buried gigolo Tamamori beneath the cherry tree, with Prof's best interests in mind

>>22599315
Yeah, it's so cool how the CGs go all out. And it doesn't even matter that the character portraits are kind of lackluster because half the time they're not even up and the writing paints the picture for us.

>>22599315
I was surprised with how many CGs there were; I've played VNs from professional groups that don't have nearly as many. Hashihime's subdued psychedelica style is very unique too.

Maybe this is that "passion" thing people talk about. ADELTA is a doujin group; there is one person doing all the writing and drawing. Do what you love and never work a day in your life and all that.

did anyone else mute the frog's voice?

>>22600021
No.

>>22600021
It grew on me, eventually. But it was tempting to turn it off for the first 1/3 of the story.

Going off how obsessed Tamamori already is with Minakami, I'm gonna guess he does not get to live in any ending but his own. Poor guy.

>>22599890
I was really surprised to hear there was one writer and artist for this, normally when that's the case I expect one of either the art or writing to be bad but here that doesn't seem the case, it's super stylish looking and from what people are saying is well written.

>>22600021
I like it actually, but it's really loud. I just turned it down a few decibels.

Tamamori's blue eyes and dumb fake glasses made him cuter, too bad. I guess they'll be gone for the rest of the VN now to distinguish him from the original Tamamori.

For some reason I was expecting this to be a groundhog day type thing rather than literal time travel. I don't think that counts as a spoiler because it's literally the premise.

>>22601268
>For some reason I was expecting this to be a groundhog day type thing rather than literal time travel. I don't think that counts as a spoiler because it's literally the premise.
Isn't it the same thing?

>>22601292
In the groundhog day type you don't physically go back in time, you just wake up as yourself in the past. Only one 'you'.

Here Tamamori has gone back in time and there's the original him still running around.

While I enjoyed Hashihime's Taisho period setting, following artists on twitter who draw Edo BL makes me want to play a BLVN set in that period as well. Even if the shaved topknot hairstyle isn't exactly my thing.

>>22601306
Oh but not for long. Guess it is groundhog day style after all.

I laughed out loud when Tamamori started fighting his past self.

>>22601657
The setup reminded me of Higurashi, which is a loop from the character's POV even if he psychically time traveler. Hashihime's main story is something many VN players would enjoy, too bad they can't look past the BL nomenclature.

bruh this is fucked up

>>22602076
Wait what, imouto is voiced by Horie Yui? I'm jumping on that bandwagon.

Koyasu's take on this weird man is such a delight, it's so fruity.

>>22602461
It's an amazing cast, we've got Ishida and Megumi Ogata in the same game.

Just realized I took a bunch of screenshots while playing pigeon blood and I haven't even posted any of them.

>>22602636
these two dorks are ridiculously cute

Is Animamundi actually a BL game? It says no romance on vndb.

stop playing animamundi so fast

>>22602884
I remember hearing someone say it gets homolusty at some points, but as to the truth of it, I have no idea. At any rate, this is the best possible place to talk about it.

>>22602884
I remember hearing someone say it gets homolusty at some points, but as to the truth of it, I have no idea, I haven't gotten very far.

At the very least I don't think it's the kind of game that has much of a male audience.

>>22602884
There's some kinda gay stuff here and there, mostly physical without romantic feelings. Also one of the endings is literally gay with no need to put your fujo goggles on.
It's definitely not as gay as your average BL game. I think I recall Karin lists it together with their Chat Noir BL titles somewhere on their website though.

Is buying a yuri novel then saying 'the author is gay btw...' the Professor's attempt at flirting?

based

Also what the fuck Tamamori locking a kid in a basement to be murdered by the guy down there cause he roasted you too bad.

>>22603712
The writer mentioned the VN had no bad ending because she made use of the story structure to write those in the game. Though I'm not sure how much he actually wanted to murder him, also yes Tamamori is a piece of shit.

>>22603724
>had no bad ending
No typical bad ending structure* You know with choices and stuff.

>>22603724
Yeah, to be fair at the time it's not clear if he actually believed the man in the basement really existed and he does try and pull him back up once he starts crying but still.

I like protagonists who are horrible people though. I've been playing a lot of otome games recently and they so rarely seem to let their MCs be anything other than a saint aside from maybe a couple superficial flaws.

>>22603712
Not sure he totally believed in the story yet, he was definitely spooked by it but he seemed to be intending to scare the kid straight rather than get him killed. He was also acting in the heat of the moment and tried to rectify the situation when he cooled off. But yeah, if you nearly get killed by the creepy giant you suspect lives down there why the fuck would you drop a kid in there.

I love such flawed and awful people as protagonists when they're written well. Makes for very interesting stories. More interesting than saintly cardboard cutouts with flaws like "hates vegetables" and "cries a lot" as >>22603768 mentioned.

>>22603862
>with flaws like "hates vegetables"
it can be a great flaw if written right

Minor spoiler for Paradise: Azuma hates vegetables and eats nothing but meat because he used to eat literal garbage as a kid

>>22603862
In otome I don't even ask that MCs be cruel sociopaths or anything but that at least they get angry or annoyed at petty things sometimes in a way that makes them feel like people. I remember this annoying me in the PSP Black Wolves Saga quite a bit.

I just realized Minakami (Whole novel spoiler)is like one of those suffering homos that are so prevalent in anime right now that have one-side love for the (straight) MC. Except the plot turns it around make him an absolute winner and revealing the MC loved him all along too.

>>22605969
Yeah, Hashihime has the happiest possible resolution for this type of plot.

I should have taken a screenshot of the rose bath too but

>>22606535
oh well, he apparently takes them often

>>22606535
>>22606576
Scary.

>>22606535
What is it with karin games and noodle torsos? I'm pretty sure most of their games have different artists but in all of them every male character looks like Jack Skellington.

>>22606643
It's just the ideal male body.

>King of Fighters for Girls won't have a new event until January while they are trying to fix some of the game problems like the loading time
They says they don't intend to kill it yet but I guess we'll see.

shakin sugar sugar

>Tamamori is 160cm

Wow he's so tiny and most of the other guys are circling around the 180 level too. How are they not constantly making fun of him for this.

>>22607814
The writer always points out how small and cute his dick is compared to the other guys'. He also gets manhandled a few times.

>>22607267
They ruined these with such a static pose

>>22608773
The white one looks okay because it looks like he's posing for a picture, but the black one looks awkward.

>>22579064
Pigeon Blood fucking sucks.

Kawase killed his abusive dad and got Tamamori to help dump the body? Then killed his stepdad too? And I thought I knew all the spoilers for this lol.

Hearing Minakami's full name was more shocking to me than finding out he wasn't a real student.

>>22607161
already dead game

>>22608983
Then what do YOU think is a good game?

>>22609085
There was a stepdad? Do you mean adoptive father?

>>22609271
Yeah that's who I meant. Ikeda who the boy detectives were investigating about.

Though I don't know if Kawase actually killed him yet but the story seems to want me to believe he did as of now.

Right now I've got to possibly the least shocking twist in the game, that the six foot tall landlady with a gravelly voice is actually a man or maybe transgender(?).

>>22609256
Shingakkou. Don't know why it was compared to Pigeon Blood. Did you "read" it with machine translator or something?

>>22609350
>Don't know why it was compared to Pigeon Blood.
Because it was made by the same company and every pil/slash game in the past decade is very similar to the others. I can give you a side by side comparison of shingakou, pigeon blood and paradise if you want.

>>22609144
>Hearing Minakami's full name was more shocking to me than finding out he wasn't a real student.
Really? I thought it was a nice character subversion, he's presented as kind and perfect, instead he's kinda not very intelligent and deeply insecure.

>>22609340
>>22609144
>>22609085

See, plenty of surprises even if you got spoiled on stuff in the threads.

>>22609813
Minakami is a very specific type of "smart" in that he has near-perfect memory.
He's just bad at using all the information he collects. So he'd do really well in situations that required learning by rote and spitting out memorized answers, but struggle in anything that required analysis.

>>22609350
Nah, I'm not the anon who played it, I was just asking.

>>22609813
>>22609822
Minakami is kinda stupid and I really like that

>>22609822
I wonder if Tamamori is smarter than him, all things considered. A lot of problem he has go back to his lazy personality. Kawase is probably the smarter and most smarter and perceive character.

>>22608983
the only route i found kinda okay was the one written by rosa but even then she basically ignored the other routes and did her own thing. the shitposting from japan when it came out was funny though. it was so bad it spilled into other blge threads.

>>22609813
When I wrote that it wasn't quite clear if the answer was that Minakami was faking it or not and there was no reason given why at that point so I didn't quite have a reaction yet.

I assumed it was just the sort of story where everyone only got one name (though I did think it was weird that the professor got a full name and a nickname while everyone else got a surname only). It's an unexpected shift in style I guess. Like, giving the characters actual names makes the story feel less cartoony maybe.

I just hit the spoiler I did know, the shopkeeper being Tamamori. I didn't actually know for sure that he was also Yumeno Kyuusaku but given that I knew there were Tamamoris from the future hanging around already it was pretty easy to guess early on. It was a surprise that he was also Haruhiko though.

>>22610048
>I just hit the spoiler I did know, the shopkeeper being Tamamori. I didn't actually know for sure that he was also Yumeno Kyuusaku but given that I knew there were Tamamoris from the future hanging around already it was pretty easy to guess early on. It was a surprise that he was also Haruhiko though.
I would suggest keep a save before that infodump, since a couple of plot points can be hard to digest the first time you read it and the story kinda dumps everything on you at once. It's a good re-read after you are finished with the route or Kawase's route.

>>22609930
I'm curious, what did japan hate most about it?

https://gematsu.com/2019/12/uta-no-prince-sama-amazing-aria-sweet-serenade-love-for-nintendo-switch-launches-may-28-2020-in-japan

>yfw the absolute state of the idol boy industry

>>22610048
>I just hit the spoiler I did know, the shopkeeper being Tamamori. I didn't actually know for sure that he was also Yumeno Kyuusaku but given that I knew there were Tamamoris from the future hanging around already it was pretty easy to guess early on. It was a surprise that he was also Haruhiko though.
He's not Kyuusaku, he was merely his editor in the future. Once he went back to the past, he found himself unable to kill Minakami as a child, so he stole all of Kyuusaku's works and used them to give Minakami's life meaning before killing him. It's why in Hashihime-universe the books exist earlier, they literally come from the future.

>>22607161
>Otome Yuusha is dead for real this time
KOF for Girls will follow soon (tm)

Finished Minakami's route.
I was worried that it'd end bittersweet or tragic with Tamamori being stranded in time or something with a 'maybe they'll meet again' type ending but I'm happy they get to go fuck in abandoned shops for the rest of their lives.

I wasn't expecting the reason behind the time travel to be 'stop WWII' not gonna lie. I like that Tamamori hardly seems to care at all in the end.

>>22606535
this is very heterosexual

mana transfer

>>22611500
In Japanese If I remember right, Yumeno Kyuusaku when it's referring to the name the shopkeeper was publishing under is spelled with one kanji different.

I wish the art in Hadaka Shitsuji wasn't so bad. I'd be totally into it otherwise.

>>22613242
Same. But it's the only game where you can bully butlers, so I just deal with it.

i want to see an otome game where you play as as a stacy that hides her degenerate powerlevel. i don't know about routes but one of them should be a incest route, with the catch being your brother is gay (and hasn't gotten laid a lot because you two live together in an itty bitty apartment for some reason)
so you somehow switch into a hot dude, and get your brother so addicted to dick that he forgoes his morals, how do i get nitro+chiral or whatever to produce this

>>22613542
Ask shigeo

>>22611889
Since you read JP you may be interested in the SS on the official site, though you probably want to read those once you are done with every route.

>>22613497
I hate April Fools jokes that I wish were real.

>>22613497
Now that I think about it, you can bully the butler in Pigeon Blood.

>>22613497
There's Tsubasa no Oka, but that's otome, not BL. It kind of sucks but the butlers are cute.

>>22611838
All that effort to keep a game that was never even worth it alive

This is a longshot but does anyone have the Toraware no Palma osts?

Does anyone like the shy/quiet heroine? Or the more boisterous type?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7NJnhVvl9E

Are you hyped?

>>22616016
Anon's wife Bami is so cute.

>>22615349
Any type is fine as long she has brains, personality, and and actual backbone.

what happened to disney otome game?

>>22616016
The background should look more stylized to match the character art. Also
>Pink haired reverse trap heroine
Strong Kenka Banchou Otome vibes from this one

>>22616819
I don't think that was an otome, just a girl game. And it's out, I think

I'm on Kawase's route now, I assumed that Minakami would stay dead in the other routes but I kinda get the feeling now he's gonna stay alive to get cucked every route instead.

Also wow Tamamori gives horrible relationship advice, 'Just rape her, I'm sure she wont mind since you have a promising future'.

>>22615349
Doesn't matter if the romance is good

Cool beauties who are actually goofy are my wives though

>>22615349
Cute and funny type

>>22617496
Man this manga had nice art, I should play the game maybe too

>>22615349
I like space cadets (like Nanami), but not ditzy ones (like the pink girl). Also, not really personality related, but I like characters with hime cuts.

Speaking of interesting heroines, has anyone played a game called ドトコイ? It's a short mobile otomege with the bizarre premise of boys going from low to high pixel count as you get closer to them. They start out as colored boxes. The MC is really funny, and the humor is Japanese-flavor absurd. It's good for something as small as it is. It's not deep or anything, but I'd recommend giving it a try if you want a laugh.

>>22617458
Well he lost all character development from Minakami's route.

Another anon currently playing Hashihime here. I just regret stalling it so long and avoiding all the conversations happening here.

I finished up to second route and if I had to rate the guys now it would be:
Kawase > Hakase = Minakami > Hanazawa

I really love my best boy. Also, the sex scenes are quite nice, they don't feel too forced or anything. The not-so explicit CGs actually make them more lewd for me. Especially the hand holding with Kawase

>Kawase so high.
I don't get it.

>>22617914
Finally a good fanart by the way.

>>22617914

>>22618703
How do you rate him?

I adored the moment where he showed his softer side in the basement and kissed Tamamori's hand. Why there was no CG for that? Damn.

Also, this game makes me want to read the books referenced there. I'm afraid of some archaic Japanese from a century ago (and I'm too lazy to check stuff in dictionary until it appears too frequently), but I have found some pdf with Dogra Magra and it's actually pretty much like the current one. This must've been some revised version or whatever.

I'm mid way through Kawase's. I'm not sure if I can rank them yet of course because I've only done one route but the character I've probably got the most screenshots of is the Professor. I think that's more because all the scenes he appears in are entertaining rather than what you'd usually go on for best boy rankings though.

>when Hitotsurugi gives Tamamori a wad of cash and he's like 'Hitotsurugi no! I've stopped buying friends now! (I want to think this is entirely literal and he has literally paid randos to be friends with him)
>Tries to act like an evil mastermind villain but as soon as he says anything threatening breaks down into apologies again
>Tamamori strangles him in what seems to be a sincere murder attempt but he just shouts 'harder Tamamori-kun!'

>>22619061
>Spoilers
I think that's definitely what happened. Professor is exact opposite of charming, but he's my favorite and I think that says a lot of things about me.

>>22618951
Minakami>Kawase>>>>>>>Hanazawa outside of his route>>>Hakase>>>>Hanazaka in his shit route.
I like him, but I can't understand putting his route over Minakami's. In term of development it felt like an inferior copy or more like a what if? Even his theme, "Mystery" was done better in Minakami's route.
Unless people are talking about boys and not route quality or which one fits Tamamori the best as a love interest.

>>22619090
As for rating the routes I want to wait until I finish all of them. Minakami feels like the true lover and considering how they were pretty much destined for each other it makes sense.That smile in the end. I still prefer Kawase as the better boy though.I have a slight asphyxia fetish

Seeing you rate Hanazawa so low discourages me from playing his route now, but it can't be helped.

>>22619061
I'm with you regarding the Professor. He was true scum in Minakami's route with the stuff in the facility, but it seems like it's due to Hanazawa's influence. I can't wait to see his ero scene considering all his degenerate M reactions.

>>22618951
>pdf
>324 pages of bizzaro madness
Good luck, anon. I'll also be doing my own reading slowly. Too bad I can't find a free english copy of Alice Muriel Williamson's A Woman in Grey. It was interesting to learn about that book's adaptation history. It makes me want to reread Tarou Nogizaka's Yuureitou manga.

(Last route spoiler) Does anyone like Kaoru?

Hanazawa so far mostly seems kinda boring and has hardly any memorable scenes. Definitely my least favourite (unless you count mask man but no one else is)

Everyone says Hanazawa's route sucks and from the spoilers I half remember from here it's like a rape to love route or something like that. Involving a jungle? Which might have clouded my impression of him from the start.

>>22619145
In those scenes in Minakami's route at the facility it stuck out to me that Hanazawa was straight away like ok let's kill Tamamori whereas the Professor was at least attached to Tamamori in a way, even if it was a sort of creepy one. Hanazawa also seemed like a genuine warmongering nationalist whereas the Professor just didn't care. Of course this is not to say anything he did there was actually justified.

>>22619248
Sure. I liked him as a scary unstoppable unknown monster before I learned the truth about him. I felt bad for him when I got into the last route because of how his character didn't have enough time to be explored. I would've accepted him as some sort of you-dun-goofed-hard bad ending.

>>22619276
I think he's interesting outside of his route and necessary to move the plot forward. Also his character brings out a new dynamic to Tamamori and Kawase's interactions.

His route is absolute dog shit, despite being an eroge I really wish the game didn't attempt a romance with him even if the had to make them fuck, it made his character significantly worse.

>>22619248
The game sorta hypes his character a lot in the first few hours, then he fade away and become a plot device to move the plot forward. As a character he doesn't offer much and it's hard to separate him with the shit in the last route, which really left a bad aftertaste. Father-Son dynamic with the Shopkeeper and Tamamori could have been cute, but at that point that ship has been tainted by him turning into a human dildo.

Nice web design

https://3rd-anniv.a3-liber.jp/blog/

>>22618951
>. Why there was no CG for that?
There was also no CG for Minakami and Tamamori's first kiss. It's definitely weird given how many CGs there are.

>>22619349
No serious interest in this game but this website is beautiful. An actual work of art

>>22619295
>new dynamic

He just made everything even more complicated. Everyone is an asshole in their own specific way, but the moment when Kawase was killed and he didn't care (plus let the mystery boy go inside) made me dislike him even more. Him confessing that everything was an act solidified that he's a shit.

I can't really bring myself to like him.

>>22619357
They definitely have more of them on the romantic side.

And one more thing about Kawase's ero scene: we were so close to get some switching mixed in. Damn.
Also, the second part of the comment in his profile in extras is cute.

Fuck you Hanazawa for answering to my fetishes

>>22621605
I knew what this pic was about even before opening
>Wasting best design on worst boy

Also is that Kawase's route?

>>22588244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRPCYIxhQag

>Design wise
Hanazawa>Kawase>Minakami>>>>>Hakase

>Personality wise
Kawase>Minakami>>>>>>Hanazawa=Hakase

>Best Love Interest for Tamamori
Minakami>>>>>>Kawase>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hakase>>>Shit>>>>>Hanazawa

>>22621643
No, that's in one of the first scenes after you enter his route.

Also you're a patrician of good taste anon.

I'm still at the beginning of it in the secret lab and he's pissing me off with his attitude. I just need to go through his route in order to be rewarded with Professor.

>>22621664
I will not have you slander the Professor like this. At least put him above Hanazawa in personality

no life

>>22623234
Idolshit is the real curse of the century.

>>22623655
>>22623655
>>22623655

New thread before we are kill.

>>22610475
Anyone knows if it's possible to turn off the animations in the Switch version?
I was considering getting it for old memories' sake, but then I remembered they added a "new feature" where the sprites are now moving the mouths when talking. Wouldn't bother me if it looked like in Koei games, but using such animations when all it says is "................っ" is dumb.

>>22621652
toyonaga never fails me