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>> No.22607804

>>22607744
when it comes to stuff that can't be explained or translated, it's probably better just to pay attention whenever you see it and to then induce that whenever this happens, you say _, than to try to imitate stuff when you first hear and come off as an idiot for using it incorrectly.

this is just me voicing my insecurities btw, not trying to offend you.

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>> No.22607848

>>22607818
ive had periods of a lot of interaction and then periods of not interacting at all and just watching anime and reading and shit. it's obviously pretty much impossible to say what i learned when & where but i feel like overall the more important thing was the input hours.

either way i basically do agree that you can't "know japanese" without being good at communicating in it anyway. i just want to defend my non normie brothers who don't want to have to speak to random people online just to get good enough to watch anime and shit

>> No.22607859

is who vs whom the english equivalent of は vs が?
or is it that the plural of goose is geese, but the plural of moose is not meese?

>> No.22607882

yamato is the original star wars

>> No.22607884

how do nihonjins feel about the diversity of the modern star wars cast. they're not as racist as the chinese right.

>> No.22607894

does anyone know of a good book on the history of elam
i dont care what language it is

>> No.22607903

yeah im p sure your view is just skewed by the fact that the average online learner is retarded uncommitted normalfag who doesnt like anime which is why theyll never get good i mean just look at nuke

>> No.22607915

>>22607903
i wish i could lower my IQ 10-15 points so i could enjoy more anime.

>> No.22607929

>>22607915
just stick to good shit like patlabor and zeta gundam

>> No.22607930

>>22607926
when you're white it doesn't sound that great. it's just what's expected. even if you're an incel.

>> No.22607931

>>22607926
idk i heard from jamal that they shit on you

>> No.22607957

>>22607953
i'm just joking when i say stuff like that don't be aggressive

>> No.22607958

>>22607932
>tanka and rakugo
it's much easier to understand anime dialogue than either of those two, so you'd only reap benefit from them until you've got a great understanding of japanese

>> No.22608014

>>22607999
wait until matt learns about 忖度 like the ssj2 to kys ssj

>> No.22608021

>>22608003
>reminds me of my chinese uni professors whove spent 20 years here but still talk like immigrant noodle shop chefs
so they've been getting input for 20 years but it didn't help?

>> No.22608034

>>22608013
its not a made up situation lol sure theyll help you with basic and intermediate stuff but what about the advanced nuanced shit that the average speaker just intuits rather than knows and can explain
what happens when youre 99% there but once every thousand sentences you say something kinda wrong no one ever corrects that they just understand you anyway

>> No.22608045

>>22608044
shut up jammie you act like a know it all all the time

>> No.22608056

>>22608021
well nuke married a jp wife, lived in japan for god knows how long by now and look at where it brought him

>> No.22608072

>>22608003
>>22608044
jammie btfo once again

>> No.22608073

>>22608061
>they're hot fucking shit
quizlet spotted

>> No.22608075

>>22608060
her wife refuses to talk to her in nihongo, and he can only talk about the weather in japanese

>> No.22608083

>>22608070
just answer the question how does output help if you dont get corrected
>>22608073
already graduated its not that bad once you get used to it but goddamn they need to hire people who speak the kings english

>> No.22608089

>>22608060
>>22608075
>her wife
his obviously lol

>> No.22608090

>>22607999
bug people have to conform to the bug colony at all times

>> No.22608093
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hxh is shit

>> No.22608103

>>22608045
he has that narcissism disorder

>> No.22608126

damn nemuri looks even cuter now that she got that iphone11

>> No.22608127

>>22608113
>>22608080

youre just arguing against yourself i never said the experience was personal its just something ive observed here
there are tons of immigrants living in america that speak broken english every day but never get better because no one tells them theyre wrong
thats just a fact regardless of whether or not anyones corrected my japanese

>> No.22608159

jammie sounds soi and gai. you should call him jm or jazzmaster

>> No.22608161

>>22608127
>i never said the experience was personal
idk but at one point i had this impression

>> No.22608174

the things is jamal isnt affected by this perfectionist MIA mentality that you guys keep pushing with your output shit
so theres just no way you will see eye to eye with him

>> No.22608229

>>22608222
well it took qm 3 years to read one

>> No.22608243

>>22608142
u have 100s of other options

expand ur mind

>> No.22608270

>>22608210
literally just answer this question >>22608083
particularly for anything that natives would just look at you and say uh idk dont think feel lol

>> No.22608301

>>22608286
https://youtu.be/Yv6shy_9KVM

>> No.22608304

>to err

>> No.22608307

>>22608296
i didn't say it didn't build tension. i said every function he serves for the story is served in the anime, so whether or not you think wyald should be in the story has more to do with if you find him entertaining in itself. if you don't then you can chuck him in the recycle bin where he belongs.

>> No.22608332

>>22608324
yeah but how do you know that output is a cause of language acquisition and not an effect

>> No.22608373

what are some must-watch genre-defining sol i need to watch? i'm curious if there's any 6/10 or better sol although i'm guessing no.

i have nisekoi and k-on queued up.

>> No.22608374

>>22608341
>but putting shit properly in order with stuff u already kinda know
oh so then i agree with you cause thats what i meant by
>you need to speak more to get fast at forming sentences
output helps you internalize whats right and wrong on an instinctual level more or less
but i still dont think it helps you learn nuances of stuff like し or the difference between と and へと or whatever i think it just gives you more confidence to bullshit your way through speaking and pretend you know
especially if no one corrects you because youre 99% intelligible

>> No.22608376

>>22608339
i didn't think it was boring. probably just the translation sucks as usual.

>> No.22608379

I wish I could look at random japanese proper names and be able to fucking read them. fuck this shit. Not putting furigana on names should be a criminal offense

>> No.22608413

>>22608409
stfu and watch something retard

>> No.22608439

>>22608432
give up instead

>> No.22608444

>>22608413
good post
>>22608423
gay post

>> No.22608446

barakamon is cool too dispite/because of their accents

>> No.22608449

>>22608444
tell me what was "gay" about my post.

>> No.22608459

>>22608456
I'm a white person

>> No.22608463

>>22608449
very simple, everything you write sounds like something a faggy sissy boy would write on his Twitter wall
you can't actually write proper written Japanese

>> No.22608486

>>22608467
イエスキリスト

>> No.22608487

man all the suggestions i got look gay as fuck except for san gatsu no lion which i think is written by a woman and will suffer from the same problems as fmab but oh well this is what i have to endure for years.

>> No.22608489

>>22608476
sometimes, but he often accuses qm of the same stuff that qm accuses him of (namely, not knowing japanese)

>> No.22608499

>>22608487
u shid try haruhi and korezom before u dive fully into sol

>> No.22608519

>>22608494
wow hes plagiarizing mat

>> No.22608530

>>22608520
extremely based

>> No.22608537

>>22608523
not that one
the one about jesus spending his years in between childhood and ministry in japan

>> No.22608549 [DELETED] 

>>22608529
not bad but you need to squat and deadlift more

>> No.22608552

>>22608373
goblin slayer

>> No.22608557

>>22608524
correction every sol is trash but conan has too many episodes to endure so fuck that.

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>> No.22608564 [DELETED] 

>>22608554
I'm sorry but there is no chance.

>> No.22608570

>>22608557
it's only a little under 1000 eps
are you even trying to learn japanese

>> No.22608586

>>22608575
your mom is too boring

>> No.22608588

even 42 of harlock is starting to feel a bit heavy for me right now.
i've got no idea how people can stabd watching shitty, repetitive, endless anime like one piece and conan

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>> No.22608611

>>22608607
i'm fucked i spend 6 hours a day in djt and only 2 hours in japanese

>> No.22608627

Does listening to Japanese while you sleep or do other stuff actually work? Also is there an anki deck for common names or places?

>> No.22608638

>>22608627
>>22608635
this
also use links for the imgs from wikipedia, dont copy them to ur anki

>> No.22608647

>>22608627
idk i fall asleep to the joe rogan podcast ahaha

>> No.22608661

>>22608645
no, i actually got 1/3 of the way to fluency just through pimsleur cds and am totally not making a paid astroturf post here

>> No.22608663

仏の顔も三度

>> No.22608738

Is there a way to use a texthooker with anime subs in the same way you can with VNs? I found posts in the archive implying that ITHVNR or Textractor can do this but I'm unable to hook either of them to MPC.

>> No.22608744

>>22608738
mpv can do it with a plugin

>> No.22608761

>>22608738
just copy down the subs by hand. it will help you learn the language!
i learned this in high school. just copy everything from a book into handwritten form and you acquire the knowledge

>> No.22608783

>>22608738
>>/jp/thread/S22445053#p22450746
>>/jp/thread/S22445053#p22451733
then use clipboard inserter with an html page
http://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk
step 2 and 3

>I found posts in the archive implying that ITHVNR or Textractor can do this but I'm unable to hook either of them to MPC.
no idea what you're talking about

>> No.22608838

>>22608707
thankfully i post on 4channel

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>> No.22608985 [DELETED] 

>>22608924
wrong

>> No.22609000 [DELETED] 

>>22608985
wanna have something to read?
try schopenhauer's on reading and books

>> No.22609003

>>22608946
I like this. Me to a T. Modern age doesn't require you to socialize to survive, and there's way too much high stimulation content for free out there to ever put time into real people.
I go to these church events for free food. It's fun watching how normal people exist and talk.

>> No.22609004

>>22608936
しょうがない
he's the undisputed king of this type of show

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duolingo is pretty based

>> No.22609062

>>22609052
>write some vague-sounding post with poor spelling that resembles like an ad hominem attack
>expect somebody to interpret it correctly

>> No.22609180

lol great ending, bet thats something jamal would pull off

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>> No.22609345

>>22609339
hxh, berserk, and logh.

>> No.22609392

>>22609357
僕のピコ was the shit tho

>> No.22609429

>>22609357
僕の日記です is quintessential 21st literature

>> No.22609443

>>22609429
>>>/lit/ is right next door

>> No.22609495

lmfao

>> No.22609551

lol thread quality got significantly better since i got banned. don't worry though I'll be back in a few days to dl drag it into the toilet again

>> No.22609575

>南無阿弥陀仏
i actually saw this in the wild
what does namu mean

>> No.22609577

>>22609558
idk some retards already started posting some /v/ basedboy shit memes

>> No.22609611

not at all i wish i could enjoy it, i don't even have high standards, a show just needs to hit me right and I've been having a hard time finding that lately

>> No.22609614

name five shows that hit your right

>> No.22609626
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to get good i need to finish a 12 episode show per day minimum but it takes me 3 or 4 days. this is fucking scary.

>> No.22609632

>>22609626
forgot to include umaru chan which i gave a 4/10.
>>22609630
what

>> No.22609640

qm reached near-fluency by watching only 3 episodes a day for 3 years

>> No.22609658

>>22609634
well the only one i've watched recently that is kinda of ok is kenichi because it wasn't some bad hxh ripoff like kny. excluding shows i already liked that i rewatched.

>> No.22609667

watch dr.stone bro

>> No.22609669

>>22609643
ive enjoyed higurashi somewhat but im on the final arc now and im kinda sick of it. bebop is also not bad but tbqh its been a bit hard for me cause i suck at japanese. gosick is just boring. i think if i have 5-6 shows on rotation i can get more episodes in total. also i watched all 7 of those with eng subs so probably boosted my enjoyment
>>22609653
you posted this exact comment the last time i listed those anime like 6 months ago lmao

>> No.22609681

dantalian no syokan was more fun for me than gosick

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>>22609672

>> No.22609687

>>22609669
>ive enjoyed higurashi somewhat but im on the final arc now and im kinda sick of it.
yeah thats r07 for you entertaining but probably overstays his welcome

>but tbqh its been a bit hard for me cause i suck at japanese
>also i watched all 7 of those with eng subs so probably boosted my enjoyment
that explains bebop then

>> No.22609688

>>22609669
i have no memory of this and i only started using the word garbo
mustve been someone else
which ones did he not like

>> No.22609689

>>22609674
we probably view 6/10s differently. i don't even wanna watch 7/10s. it's just that once i force myself to watch them, they're OK here and there and don't completely bore me. kenichi falls into that.

i could shift all of my scores downward and fit dr. stone into a 5 or 4 but idk if the shows below it are bad enough to deserve 1s, 2s, and 3s. there's a lot of utter dogshit i probably haven't seen.

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>>22609688
nvm i misremembered unless the second comment is u

>> No.22609709

>>22609698
what is your opinion on stone;tor

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learn from me

>> No.22609713

>>22609700
average rater views 5 as a bad rating

>> No.22609716

>>22609693
it's more goofy (and thus worse) than i thought it'd be
>>22609698
dr. stone sucks ass but it's about on the same level as kny for me since kny is just another run of the mill snore shonen with "epic" snore moments whereas dr. stone is at least kind of original. and had some interesting mystery reveals.
>>22609700
10/10 to me just means the show i enjoyed the most, had the most positives, or had extremely high highs that outweighed the negatives. i value high highs over consistency basically.

>> No.22609718 [DELETED] 

trump got impeached lol

>> No.22609723

>>22609710
you are throwing 8s to easily
other than that i like it

>> No.22609730

>>22609709
s;g has "science-y" stuff, but it doesn't really promote scientific positivism the way dr stone or znt do

>> No.22609731 [DELETED] 

>>22609718
/djt/ stands for donal j trump lol

>> No.22609735

>>22609710
inflated scores plus jojo sucks cock but at least you recognize that db>dbz

>> No.22609742 [DELETED] 

>>22609718
lol no way

>>22609723
>>22609735
if the genres are too different from each other, i try to think of them as their own ranking in their genres

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this is /djt/, not /orangefool/

>> No.22609749 [DELETED] 

>>22609718
idk how that shit works, but doesnt senate still have to approve that shit

>> No.22609758 [DELETED] 

>>22609749
yes and this is why its happening

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>> No.22609767 [DELETED] 

>>22609749
yeah i think 2/3 of the Senate needs to tell him to fuck off so i doubt it's gonna happen considering how many republicans would need to oust him

>> No.22609776 [DELETED] 

>>22609767
>>22609772
ok this was exactly the info i had
gonna lmfao when trump get elected again after this

>> No.22609851

what's something i might enjoy if i love key vns?

>> No.22609854 [DELETED] 

>>22609772
>>22609776
if he gets reelected which he will cuz biden wont win and as much as id like bernie to win not enough ppl give a fuck so he prolly wont even end up the nominee im prolly gettin the fuck out theres better places to go hang out for the next 4 years (not japan but maybe visit)

>> No.22609862

>>22609851
which is your favorite

>> No.22609876 [DELETED] 

>>22609854
really cant tell if you are baiting or not bro

>> No.22609884 [DELETED] 

>>22609854
no way this is real lol

>> No.22609885

>>22609862
i love air, clannad, and little busters equally, so i'd say i'm looking for anything that's like any one of those 3 vns.

>> No.22609890 [DELETED] 

>>22609854
>as much as id like bernie to win
my idol has fallen. now quiz is my idol

>> No.22609895 [DELETED] 

>>22609890
lmfao

>> No.22609907

>>22609896
but big pharma would walk all over bernie boy so nothing would change
>>22609901
yep thats the truth

>> No.22609931 [DELETED] 

>>22609918
idk if i make it moneywise ill give a you $50 bro

>> No.22609932 [DELETED] 

>>22609925
american companies are based fuck off!

>> No.22609934 [DELETED] 

>>22609926
not wanting venture capitalists to rape foreign nations so retards like you can get their new iphones with keyloggers and cia backdoors isnt communism

>> No.22609938 [DELETED] 

gas phil knight

>> No.22609941 [DELETED] 

>>22609934
capitalists are raping the first world though they're a necessary evil. they're throwing your backwards shithole countries a bone unfortunately.

>> No.22609947

>>22609925
>he doesnt buy hyped fashion items
loser detected!

>> No.22609956

>>22609941
im american and theres nothing necessary about sacrificing the health and well being humanity to accelerate the growth of shitty tech and corporate revenue its slave morality to some unhinged desire hoard money even though everyones gonna die regardless

>> No.22609958

redpill me on why amazon is bad im all ears

>> No.22609962

>>22609956
the health (and wealth) of humanity (including 3rd world shitholes) has increased dramatically over the past century thanks to industrialization though. not that i actually care about the conditions of the 3rd world.

>> No.22609968

>>22607800
Word of the day: 誤殺

>> No.22609970 [DELETED] 

>>22609965
we all be dead if you dont rise up and take a stand for ur country
https://youtu.be/qjTvpdp5sVA

>> No.22610001

>>22609958
basically just leftist screeching about how they don't let the government rob them enough

>> No.22610013

>>22609976
on god bro its now my mission to buy you a drink and get u to loosen up a bit haha

>> No.22610014

fuck amazon fuck netflix fuck republicans fuck democrats fuck walmart fuck mcdonalds fuck women fuck jews

>> No.22610019

>>22610014
who do you think funds your neet lifestyle

>> No.22610028

>>22610022
what dialect is this bros

>> No.22610030

>>22610019
dont care

>> No.22610033

>>22610014
the last one is very unbased

>> No.22610070

>>22608680
2020 is going to be my 4th year so i'll try to reach 100 finished vns and focus heavily on my listening ability as well. i think the next year is going to be my final year being on the djt.

>> No.22610117

>>22608946
as someone with friends having them is cool but can be overwhelming if you have too many or you don’t see eye to eye on a lot of things. so keep a small circle and choose wisely

>> No.22610120

learning radicals isnt a meme right?
and is wanikani worth using?

>> No.22610127

>>22609626
>to get good i need to finish a 12 episode show per day minimum
who comes up with these retarded ass rules

>> No.22610129

>>22610127
i can just tell at my current rate of growth that i'm going to be shit for years and years and years if i don't hit that as a minimum threshold soon.

>> No.22610133

>>22610129
dont worry anon i respect your decision

>> No.22610137

>>22610133
thanks yea i knew japanese was never for me 12 episodes is way too much

>> No.22610149

>>22610030
lmao fucking loser

>> No.22610150

>>22610149
shut up meanie fuck

>> No.22610176

>>22610070
i feel very ambivalent about meeting my fourth year goal of translating 5 doujinshi within a year
on one hand, it was a personal struggle, and i only just made it after taking a week vacation from work to dedicate myself to the last one
on the other hand, every single accomplishment in my life looks like a participation award if i compare myself to others
should probably just consider them personal successes

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>> No.22610195

>>22610189
s1 is just as good dont let them fool you

>> No.22610198

>>22610189
no it's shit and the girls in that are dead
people should stop posting them and let them rest in peace

>> No.22610199

>>22610189
imbecile go read rotten tomatos or something

>> No.22610204

>>22610199
why do you dislike hearing other people's opinions so much?

>> No.22610246

>>22607882
you mean The Hidden Fortress is the original star wars

>> No.22610251

>>22607915
just stop watching the "super power" genre

>> No.22610256

>>22610251
i've tried that and thus far every single one has been 5/10 or worse.

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>>22610249
>>22610249
it's almost christmas and you are posting like the saddest thing ever posted itt

>> No.22610270

>>22608373
レイプマン

>> No.22610284

>>22609345
lol

>> No.22610286

>>22610284
don't even pretend obscure anime are good

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>>22608639
Oh cool, is it an audiobook?
>>22608928
Lol
>>22609233
Why's that?
>>22609620
>口マンコ
Fucking hell
>>22610014
Not related to learning Japanese! (And many posts above yours)
>>22610286
Which one's have you tried?

>> No.22610355

>>22610353
none because they're obscure. but they're obscure because they're bad.

>> No.22610377

i wish i had started watching kemonofrienzu earlier

>> No.22610413

>>22610408
this took me a minute to read

>> No.22610449

>>22610408
Took me about 2 minutes to fully digest with Rikaichamp.
Without it, I couldn't pick the exact meaning of a few words/kanji, like 症状, 襲, 喉, and 補. Rikaichamp is such a crutch.
Sorry for making my post less cool and harder to read by not butchering my punctuation.

>> No.22610462

>>22610408
i don't get it. please explain why she doesn't have a headache or hanamizu.

>> No.22610476

>>22610462
because it's not a 風邪, it's merely 風邪と良く似た症状

>> No.22610484

nothing bad ever happens if you just sit back and watch some based anime

>> No.22610490

why do they say いたぞ when they find a person they were searching for? should be iruzo if you ask me

>> No.22610492

>>22610490
bruh we literally almost say the same thing in english "there you were"

>> No.22610495

>>22610476
maybe i don't get のは because i read it as "the reason she didn't have [those symptoms] was not because of the virus, but because (それは)..." but the part after that doesn't seem to have any relation to why she wouldn't have those symptoms.

>> No.22610508

>>22610495
(鼻水や喉の痛み)(が)(ない)(の[koto])(は)ウィルスによるものではなく
the reason she doesn't have a runny nose or sore throat is because she doesn't have a virus

>> No.22610520

>>22610508
but it says "the fact of her not having a runny nose or sore throat" "is not caused by a virus". the only way it would make sense as you describe is if もの here refers not to (鼻水や喉の痛み)(が)(ない)(の[koto]) but the previous sentence, which doesn't seem grammatically possible since the topic of that sentence is the fact she doesn't have those symptoms

>> No.22610536

>>22610520
at this point it's just story stuff you're missing out on. the first sentence explains that she has a few symptoms of a cold (high fever, headache, collapsed) but that she doesn't have a runny nose or headache, and that the reason she doesn't have those symptoms is because she doesn't have a virus. at this point i'm pretty sure you're just missing enough context to make the jump so go ahead and pick up a copy of volume 1 of toaru majutsu no index today

>> No.22610548

400GiG worth of nukige just died on me
安らかに眠れ

>> No.22610557

i gave 9-10 to all anime i watched. giving kemono michi a 10 rn

>> No.22610560

>>22610548
ごメイド服をお祈りします

>> No.22610565

>>22610557
>kemono michi
i see 3 mal accounts that gave this show a 10/10 in the last 30 minutes which one is you?

>> No.22610581

>>22610565
the one that gave 9-10 to all completed anime

>> No.22610693

>>22610408
20 seconds
understood all of it but fucked up the reading for 補おう

>> No.22610695

Have you noticed kunyomi is generally much harder that onyomi to memorize?

>> No.22610736

>>22610695
yes i have it sux

>> No.22610739

>>22610408
>インデックス
what??

>> No.22610746

>>22610462
>please explain why she doesn't have a headache or hanamizu.
>>22610476
>because it's not a 風邪
she did have a headache... its a throatache she didn't have. you guys need to stop forcing reading faster than you can actually comprehend

>> No.22610756

>>22610746
not him, but considering i understand relatively little outside of set phrases years in, i don't thinking holding back is going to be doing me much good either

>> No.22610765

>>22610746
i asked that question 5 mins after reading it so i didn't remember the exact detail, and that wasn't the main point of my question

>> No.22610782

>>22610756
how is rushing through things you dont understand going to help you understand them better? if anything its the exact opposite you start off slow and get faster with repetition not by artificially forcing speed
>>22610765
if youd read it carefully you would have remembered

>> No.22610786

>>22610782
besides looking up every uncertain term or grammar construct and reevaluating it in regards to the definition, how does one read carefully?
that's what i've been doing

>> No.22610795

>>22610782
i think id rather just read fast and miss small details than spend my time memorising everything. sounds boring

>> No.22610835

https://www.youtube.com/user/KhanAcademyJapanese/playlists
if anyone cares there's japanese versions of khan academy videos and they all come with japanese subs

>> No.22610877

>>22610199
対処しろ

>> No.22610881

what is your opinion on Tsubasa Chronicles, jamal? gonna watch it now.

>> No.22610893

>>22610795
you literally will never know japanese
>>22610786
just giving your brain enough time to process before moving on, pausing when necessary to let a phrase sink in etc

>> No.22610939

>>22610893
>you literally will never know japanese
wow very rude im just trying to enjoy myself here

>> No.22610995

tfw そうとも has nothing to do with "also"

>> No.22611008

>>22610408
どのあたりがわかりにくいの?

>>22610739
そこ?

>> No.22611106

why do so many artists draw the katakana for Wa and Ku exactly the fucking same
its like most of the time i can figure it out but still
and the same thing with N and So

>> No.22611137

>>22611106
ソワソワ

そわそわしているようす

ワンワン

いぬのようにしているようす

>> No.22611174
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22611174

>>22611106
>>22611137
そしてワンワンをもじったのが

くんくん

もっているのはふにんき

>> No.22611335

の can replace 理由

>> No.22611708

does anybody here like both girls with big swords and futa?

>> No.22611752

>>22611708
i dont like futa cause they always draw the dicks really long but proportionately skinny it makes me cringe just thinking about it snapping

>> No.22611763

>>22608933
お金がない!

>> No.22611782

このスレはもう死んでいる

>> No.22611786

>>22611488
はいとてもじょうずですね

なんのおりょうりのれんしゅうをしましたか

>> No.22611859

gonna read 1000 chapters of grappler baki and i'm NOT coming back to this thread until i'm done.

>> No.22611930

>亜人: American
>亜人(あじん)は、人間と似て非なる伝説の生物である[1]。姿は人間に近いながらも、人間と違った特徴を持つ生物[2]であり
fff

>> No.22612055

came to realization that i just might be メンヘラ

>> No.22612066

came to the realisation that i just might be メルヘン

>> No.22612076

>>22612066
gj bro you got dubs too

>> No.22612119

wotd
せんべろ

>> No.22612190

whats the difference between 家来 and 家臣

>> No.22612196

>>22612190
never seen either word so idk

>> No.22612200

i'm back

>> No.22612201

>>22612190
ur mom

>> No.22612206

>>22612200
welcome

>> No.22612210

>>22612190
a 家来 is your own attendant and a 家臣 is an attendant of the clan

>> No.22612217

>>22612190
ググれ

>> No.22612225

>>22612210
thanks

>> No.22612237

did khatz actually sound good in the blue shirt vid or did he make a lot of mistakes? (i don't care about pitch accent)

>> No.22612239

>>22612237
contradicted yourself there bud

>> No.22612243

>>22612237
check eigonodo's critique of it

>> No.22612257

>>22612237
why do you care lol

>> No.22612273

>>22612237
nothin really bad to say about it but its a old vid who cares now

>> No.22612278

how do i seek to the beginning of the previous and next subtitle in mpv

>> No.22612285

>>22612278
nvm ctrl+left/right works

>> No.22612309

https://youtu.be/wv9G3bGypVA

>> No.22612328

im starting to get into the last part of dbz. babidi is funny as heck. goten and trunks are lil savages too. great anime.

>> No.22612341

only issue is the op is not a banger at all but the ed makes up for it

>> No.22612344

>God my Japanese listening sucks now like holy shit I need to work on it.
>I feel the lack of vocab more with listening than reading
>I think my listening has deteriorated a bit since I really haven't been listening to a lot of Japanese these past few months.
-chris blaze "god damn those titties"
Did his listening actually get worse or has reading a lot more made him realize he's probably missing a lot of words, while before he just made up the story without realizing it.

>> No.22612362

It sucks when the input you want to use doesn't have subtitles or transcripts.

>> No.22612365

>>22612348
i still look at it but i haven't seen anything worth replying to and im bored of starting arguments

>> No.22612390

>>22612353
yea it doesn't really make any sense you can't get worse at japanese by just reading unless you're not really reading japanese

>> No.22612396

>>22612353
when your listening isn't actually good but you just think it is, you get used to making up the story when you hear certain words or see certain things happen in a show. when you listen less and less that story-creating ability withers so it feels like you hear less when you're hearing and actually understanding about the same.

>> No.22612407

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. He understands 100% of slice of life anime.

>> No.22612428

99%

>> No.22612430

And 95% minimum.

>> No.22612450

>>22612444
i hate this guy, but its for his own good

>> No.22612456

looking forward to knowing every word in japanese and having a solid 100% comprehension of the language

>> No.22612461

tfw been studying for 2/3 as long as chris and only have 60% comprehension on kids' anime, since i use kanji as a crutch

>> No.22612469

tfw when 110% comprehension of cute japanese utuber
we have a connection on deeper level that goes beyond language

>> No.22612473

has anybody ever noticed that most miaers never touch mecha/sf anime?

>> No.22612479

>>22612473
no i dont spent my time following some language learning losers

>> No.22612493

>>22612487
why are you wasting your time like that bro
just think about it

>> No.22612499

>>22612493
i already did 3 hours of reading today. i don't really have much else to do right now.

>> No.22612502

>>22612499
how about another 3 for "listening practice"

>> No.22612503

>>22612473
they do eventually though

>> No.22612517
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me smashing dbz fans' faces

>> No.22612547

>>22612533
idk i like being sexist, i think its pretty rad

>> No.22612563

>have been learning japanese for 18 months and feel like i'm not gonna make it
>can't quit because that would mean i wasted like 1000+ hours of learning only to give up
when will my brain understand japanese!? aaaaaaahh!!

>> No.22612578

>>22612571
about three fifty

>> No.22612580

>>22612563
give it another few years 18 months is what you'd expect for a language that's similar to your native one

>> No.22612608

>>22612582
about threehundredfifty

>> No.22612614

what if the 18 month number khatz used could actually work, but only if you did 14 hours a day of active (fully concentrated) immersion, not half-assed passive immersion like most ajatters/miaers do?

>> No.22612619

>>22612608
seconds?

>> No.22612620

>>22612614
that's what justin did for a year

>> No.22612628

>>22612620
>justin
no nigga's gonna be able to stay perfectly concentrated on understanding stuff all day long

>> No.22612636

i just got crippled by this video
https://youtu.be/Ao2CoraaeYk

>> No.22612637

>>22612614
there's some russian guy in the discord who's read like 80 VNs since starting learning a year ago cause he just reads for 13 hours a day. he's surpassed quizmaster and many of the other discord regulars already.

>> No.22612641

>>22612632
i think most of us djters are closer in terms of maturity to matt than to justin

>> No.22612646

>>22612637
あいつ誰?

>> No.22612676

>>22612619
yen of course!?

>> No.22612681

>>22612637
I read so fucking slow that it never feels like it helps. I try to dissect everything which makes it harder to solidify what I already know, and also to solidify newly-learned information. At least with anime you're forced to get through 5k characters in 20 minutes whether you understand them or not. And that's an obvious double edged sword but yea.

>> No.22612684

>一ひい
>二ふう
>三

>> No.22612691

>>22612684
i remember i first saw this in higurasi

>> No.22612698

yeah when you are starting to acquire a new language you just gotta say fuck it sometimes and let stuff slip through that you dont get
by the next time you see that word or sentence youll hopefully get it

>> No.22612727

i know this might sound like something all of you have heard before, but i've noticed i can keep up with the dialogue really well if i'm watching something extremely easy that's got lots of short, simple lines like precure, whereas if i try reading a vn, i'll often have to read a line, look some words up, read the same line again, try to interpret what it means in context, and then move onto the next line.

>> No.22612742

>>22612727
sounds like you dont know how to parse the text you read
try reading more manga or something

>> No.22612766

>>22612563
I've been at it for 21 months and I feel like I made it. Sure I'll need another 2 years to start going dictionary free but I'm already reading everything my heart desires

>> No.22612772

>>22612727
things that are more complex are typically harder to understand it's a truly strange phenomenon

>> No.22612791

can't believe it's gonna take 2 years minimum until i can understand the brilliance of shonen writing in its original language

>> No.22612799

>fantasy land that is heavily based on the european medieval aesthetic
>the party is at a dimly lit tavern
>味噌、ご飯、龍丼

>> No.22612804

acquiring japanese takes at least 5 years. probably more like 10.

>> No.22612808

>>22612804
explain how ciaran and matt did it in 8 years then

>> No.22612816

>>22612808
i did say at least 5 years but even those geniuses took that long. what hope do us mortals have? maybe i should change it to 20.

>> No.22612849

>>22612799
spanish and italian people eat both 米 and 麺.

>> No.22612859

>>22612808
ciaran is a manlet and so is matto
it takes less time for them to comprehend stuff thanks to the shorter paths in their brain

>> No.22612865

>>22612816
ok when you put it this way, this is fucking scary. even the 3 most genius acquirers (matt, ciaran, and jamal) took anywhere from 8 to 15 years to acquire japanese.
>>22612829
i don't wanna watch anything because i have an anime spidey sense where i have a vague idea of what score any anime i've never seen will have. i had a hunch kenichi would be a 7. i knew all sol i've watched would be 5s or worse. i didn't think kny would live up to the hype and it didn't, though it's even worse than i imagined and is probably the largest gap between expectation and reality that i had. i know hajime's poopoo will be about a 7. i've only watched like 30 anime in 10 years for a reason.

>> No.22612873

>>22612859
lmao

>> No.22612879

>>22612865
have you tried watching 1980s stuff? what about getter robo?

>> No.22612885

>spagetti is medieval
>spain is europe

>> No.22612894

>>22612865
>has only watched 30 anime in 10 years
>still wants to learn japanese
you're not high iq. you're a picky motherfucker

>> No.22612897

>>22612885
how is spain not europe

>> No.22612913

>>22612865
>i've only watched like 30 anime in 10 years for a reason.
ive watched 35 full series over the past 15 years. luckily you can still learn japanese just by dropping 1 episode after 15 mins repeatedly

>> No.22612922

>>22612885
spaghetti was already around in the late middle ages/early renaissance, which is when most medieval themed fantasy works take inspiration from.
stereotypical knights' armour didn't even exist till the quattrocento

>> No.22612926

i feel like 5'10 is the upper limit where you still have the chance of acquiring nihongo
5'6 is probably optimal for gains. while the closer you get to 5'0 the more likely its that your brain might actually be too small too at that point
and the only way for you to get away with this is turn gay and get a jp bf

>> No.22612931

>>22612926
good thing i'm 5'8

>> No.22612935

>>22612926
the japanese mindset is heavily based on manlet philosophy so we're able to understand how they think much easier

>> No.22612943

>>22612915
It's never been easier to just slog through anime line by line after learning kana and about the idea of kanji radicals.

>> No.22612946

>>22612935
manletness is comparative.
a 5'8er is average in japan, whereas in america or western europe, he's a midget

>> No.22612955

i wonder how tall nuke is
i mean im 5'10 and if not even getting a jp wife boosts your nihongo, i might be fucked

>> No.22612956

>>22612897
yes it is europe but its not "europe"
when you tell the average normie out side of the eu to think of europe they will not think of the iberian plateau
>>22612922
you are right

>> No.22612959

core is well worth doing since it teaches you useful, common words like 春分

>> No.22612963

>>22612943
it's not about how many tools you've got. it's about how much willingness you've got to be a degenerate neet, cut off from society, and watch tons of anime + read tons of eroge every day

>> No.22612966

damn i am nearly 6 in freedom units
is there anything i can do to offset my disadvantage

>> No.22612977

>>22612959
to be fair, most of the time you can tell when a word is actually pretty rare in the media you'll be watching and just delete it.

>> No.22612982

>>22612955
not having a foreign wife who speaks english is probably what helps the most in learning a second language.

>> No.22612995

>>22612956
>iberian plateau
peninsula, not plateau

>> No.22613001

>>22612982
Is nuke's wife from hiroshima or nagasaki? I want to know if he's a fat man or a little boy.

>> No.22613012

>>22612935
makes sense

>> No.22613028

does japanese use acronyms

>> No.22613043

>>22613028
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym#Japanese

>> No.22613053

>>22613028
They use both what you're used to call acronyms via alphabets and their own version based on their syllabary and kanji.

>> No.22613080

why do people post questions here instead of googling them themselves?

>> No.22613097

>>22613080
this is the only form of social interaction i get and i know google isn't a person

>> No.22613137

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ODo_fABYac

is she gonna make it? (in japanese or otherwise?)

>> No.22613148

>>22613137
the most she could ever accomplish would be to win money by showing her tiddies off to incels.

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>>22613137

>> No.22613184

gonna read 1 doujin, watch at least 1 ep of anime and also do something cool

>> No.22613217

>>22613184
will you wear sunglasses?

>> No.22613226

>>22613217
i dont have any, is a hoodie enough or should i combo it with a hat

>> No.22613257

ok seems like the cool shit got cancelled out for today

>> No.22613266

just mined the word anki from yuru yuri

>> No.22613286

>>22612913
>>22612865
i've watched that many in the past two months
you people aren't even trying to acquire nihongo

>> No.22613292

>>22613286
i've watched ~25 shows in the past 2 months. i'm referring to stuff i watched with english subs.

>> No.22613295

>>22613266
暗鬼?

>> No.22613298

>>22613137
more like polythot lol

>> No.22613303

polyglot youtube is cancer

>> No.22613306

pls dont talk about language thots
it reminds me of misa

>> No.22613311

>>22613300
まあぁっ、俺の日本言語能力まぁまぁです

>> No.22613316

that one canadian guy is comfy tho

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>>22613313
the webm that destroyed my trust in women

>> No.22613344

why are you assuming that that's a female (proper english grammar)

>> No.22613353

>>22613137
>Malay
>Tagalog
>Burmese
>Hindi

>> No.22613354

>>22613344
its 2019 who gives a fuck anymore

>> No.22613371

>>22613353
isnt malay super easy grammar wise

>> No.22613373

The problem with watching long running shounen is that I'll want to skip all the filler so I won't have all the episodes logged on anilist and it'll make the list more unsightly and less fulfilling when I see a fraction in place of a whole number among the other finished shows.

>> No.22613404

i'm gonna say it i think the fullbringer arc was good and soul society arc was eh

>> No.22613428

qm wouldnt have mixed up 正直 and 素直 if he would have just read slower where he was unsure

>> No.22613445

>>22613432
>he fucked it up twice in 5 seconds tho
doesn't that make his excuse for screwing it up even more silly??

>> No.22613477

I just finished VS2k and want to read Angel Beats!
can you guys hook me up with a link?

>> No.22613485

>>22613477
here you go ---->google.com
but watch the anime before or after

>> No.22613501

>>22613485
I already googled but I only get dead links.
Spoonfeed me pls, Im not even into Visual novels and this cute little girls stuff so I dont know where to look for.

>> No.22613525

is the vn any good
(not asking that one guy, you know who you are)

>> No.22613529

>>22613525
>(not asking that one guy, you know who you are)
who

>> No.22613536
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22613536

youre a master of human tongue if you want to read this

>> No.22613581

>>22613536
i should've studied maya or nahuatl to read the angel beats vn

>> No.22613586

can't believe i let vlad trick me into reading angel beats

>> No.22613660

>>22613656
ill show up next year

>> No.22613665

https://youtu.be/W_eQBpm23V0

>> No.22613782

fondly remembering when i was 15 and thought it was pronounced 'aneem'

>> No.22613792

so what is the best ocr dictionary program for manga?

>> No.22613794

>>22613792
for android use kaku

>> No.22613797

>>22613792
brain

>> No.22613800

>>22613794
im on windows 10, is it so good that its worth to download an android emulator?

>> No.22613807

>>22613800
no lol

>> No.22613808

>>22613800
use kanjitomo

>> No.22613844

man i am going to miss my family's cooking once i move out
i'll turn full normie if it means i get to marry a cute girl of my ethnicity who knows how to cook

>> No.22613867

some fags are charging $50 for a fucking font
why dont i make fonts for living wtf

>> No.22613898

my head phones ran out of battery
whats a good manga to read

>> No.22613934

>>22613867
cuz 1 person buys the font and then thats it no more font money

>> No.22613950

damn fonts are expense
maybe i should open up a font renting business so the common man can afford quality fonts

>> No.22613959

5 day trial font pack.exe

>> No.22613962

>>22613959
lol

>> No.22613966

reminder to keep your screen(s) clean, so you can enjoy the white colors better

>> No.22613990

set up a blue light filter after 8pm and keep your room dark

>> No.22614036

>>22613844
what’s your ethnicity mexican?

>> No.22614053
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https://youtu.be/XVmMv-Jo_SI
i used to somewhat hate D.O but i have grown to like his style

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>>22614036
no

>> No.22614139

does the phenomenon where it feels like japanese mumble to the point they're sometimes inaudible ever go away

>> No.22614186

can one learn to feel instead of think when consuming japanese

>> No.22614267

yea

>> No.22614272

stupid chinks are fucking crippling me
im trying to watch some good ass 巨乳レズ shit but the servers keep fucking lagging and ruining my immersion

>> No.22614277

>>22614186
yes thats the whole point of acquiring a language

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this bitch almost crippled my 末端 card

>> No.22614328

>>22614320
wow stay safe bro

>> No.22614356

>>22614139
apparently this is one of the hardest things to overcome but you're not actually fluent until you are able to so u better hope it'll go away

btw got unbanned, are the assblasted jannies/mods still deleting posts and shit

>> No.22614367

>>22614356
idk i guess few messages got deleted way earlier today
i think the janny is australian or something

>> No.22614405

スペイン

カタルーニャ

どうなってるの?

>> No.22614423

How do I hook into that child-like wonder that motivated people like Matt and moe to learn Japanese?

>> No.22614448

>>22614423
when people say it gets harder to learn a language as you get older its not because of time or neuroplasticity its because you dont enjoy anime like you used to

>> No.22614449

>>22614423
don't be hxh guy

>> No.22614480

>>22614328
i notice her 発音 was a bit weird even when it says (Female from Japan). fcking gaijins dont understand they will never pass

>> No.22614493

>>22614423
read the ajatt table of contents

>> No.22614503

>>22614320
what is that and why does she matter

>> No.22614524

>>22614186
yes but you gotta do some thinking first to get there

>> No.22614536

>>22614530
well what have you been doing

>> No.22614541

>>22614536
2 hours of japanese subbed anime and 15-20 new words in anki per day

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>>22614541

>> No.22614553

well no wonder i've been doing that for the past month and it's not that i "feel" i haven't improved at all. i just haven't improved at all. that's what you and i get for not doing ajatt dude.

>> No.22614566

>>22614541
How are you not seeing improvement
What do you even consider “improvement”?
Aren’t you noticing that words you learned are appearing in new anime episodes?

>> No.22614578

>>22614541
try reading something denser than anime subtitles or listening to something without the crutches maybe then youll make more noticeable gains

>> No.22614592

>>22614541
try watching jav bro

>> No.22614597

>>22614553
uhuh
>>22614566
idk just feeling more comfortable watching stuff, not having to pause cause im confused about whats going on in a sentence. i do notice words that ive learned appearing all the time i guess. i feel like a lot of fairly basic grammar stuff isn't fully solidified/internalized in my mind so i get confused when a use case deviates from what im accustomed to even a bit. i'll watch a show like kino no tabi or jojo and feel its easy as shit and then move up to something slightly harder and be lost in the boonies.
>>22614578
i know i should but i dont give a fuck about reading anything so it'll be a slog and ineffective as a result. i might start watching very easy shows raw though.

>> No.22614616

>>22614456
do you love men's anime like hidamari sketch and a-channel?

>> No.22614631

>>22614541
>subbed anime
boom

>> No.22614661
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22614661

I memorized hiragana/katakana a long time ago but never did anything more, how many days of learning grammar and using anki do I have until I am able to get anything out of say, playing old dragon quest games in japanese?

>> No.22614662

>>22614661
years

>> No.22614677

>>22614661
0 days
start now, the only thing stopping is your eop mentality

>> No.22614696

>>22614661
if you didn't start reading manga with furigana as soon as you'd finished learning hiragana and katakana, you'll never make it

>> No.22614708

furigana is irrelevant

>> No.22614748

forgot how good certain episodes of evangelion were though it's still only an 8

>> No.22614756

im pretty sure its a 7

>> No.22614769

could very well be i'm just relying on my anime tingles (my 6th sense)

>> No.22614779

i want a kaworu bf (gf)

>> No.22614780

idk that anime has shit graphics

>> No.22614799

i don't see any coherence to the shows moe likes on his mal

>> No.22614829

nge and lotgh are the only 10/10 anime ever made

>> No.22614831

huh

>> No.22614878

あずきバーたべたい

おにいちゃんたべたことある?

>> No.22614885

you forgot the timestamp
https://youtu.be/vZa0Yh6e7dw?t=79

>> No.22614906

>>22614846
its a damn nice track
i want to bleed to death while this is playing

>> No.22614953

>>22614878
爪を食べたい

>> No.22614976

https://youtu.be/iYsgS08kdMY
AAAAAAA SHITS GOING DOWN ON MY STREAM

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>>22614976
some loser ran a stop sign

>> No.22615023

>>22614597
for the reading practice you need, try just reading the transcript for every 3rd episode you watch (or even all episodes if you want). that way you get a chance to read something without the audio “crutch”. and it’s likely things will get clearer during a second read through at your own pace and try sentence cards for troubling grammar

>> No.22615029

>>22615017
i know, where i come from police just shoot the guy whos in fault and leave him in the ditch

>> No.22615041

>>22615033
well yeah depends on who you crash into. its unlikely some granny will beat you up
then again you might already be taking your last breaths when the 警察 arrive, so they just speed up the process

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>> No.22615126

how much of a pain is it to buy and play japanese games on a switch that isn’t hacked?

>> No.22615160

>>22615126
はうまっちぺいんって

むかしのきょくになかった?

>> No.22615181

fuck i cant escape this meme
even nemuri has 2 fathers

>> No.22615189

>>22614878
いもうとのてりょうりたべたい

>> No.22615213

i thought i had an anime i wanted to watch already dled and saved on my ehd but i dont and now im sad this is the 1 mbps dl life bois

>> No.22615316

What's the difference between JLPT1 and N1?

>> No.22615342

Is doing RTK while learning Core2K too much work? The book itself seems to heavily imply so.

>> No.22615346
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22615346

this deserves a 10 too

>> No.22615490

>>22615189
ゆでたまごと

カップラーメン

どっちがいいですか

>> No.22615647

you can't spell jamal without 邪魔

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22615752

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