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>>22582430
I love Sion

>>22568156
I don't know if it was just the English translation that made him sound dry, but at least in the manga it was VERY obvious that Shiki was tsundere as hell for Arcueid. I loved their relationship in the manga, it's my favorite TM romance.

Anyone know the source? Is it from a doujin or stand alone art?

>>22582618
I can feel the Tohno glands from here

can shirou kill true ancestors?

was Ryougi Mana a mistake?

>>22583106
Doesn't matter, not like they're ever going to do anything with her again.

https://twitter.com/fate15th/status/1205778232496115712
https://twitter.com/fate15th/status/1205778369570168833
Fate/Unpublished Material will have character designs by Takeuchi and a story plot written by Nasu at the beginning of the 2006 F/SN anime project. It will detail a new heroine and new plot elements regarding that anime.

I guess the heroine is probably Stray Servant considering she's supposed to appear on DEEN anime at first (after getting scrapped from the VN):
>Takeuchi: Yes. But that shield girl's design existed before this project began.
>Nasu: It never came to be, but when Studio DEEN made their "Stay Night" anime, it was originally planned to have an original story. This heroine was formally made back then. We felt it was a waste to keep her locked away like that, and she fit right into the story of "FGO", so we decided to make her the main heroine this time around.

>>22583950
Should have kept her in the cage and thrown the key away.

This is a nightmare and I can't wake up.

>>22583950
Anime adaptations suck. If more anime adaptations were like this, and featured like a newly written route or a new story in the same world featuring characters from the source (sort of like Boogiepop Phantom) it would be much more entertaining to someone who has already read the source material and the anime-only watcher would get a taste of what the source material might be like, and ascend from the anime-only hell.

Plus, they wouldn't have to try and fit a bunch of text into an anime since what they'll be doing will be an anime original basically. They can fit the story to the format and use a lot of its strengths better.

>>22583950
I'm...mildly interested. If only to see if the stray servant would have been better than bland shield waifu that we actually got.

I love Aoko!

>>22584736
Boogiepop Phantom wasn't a side story, that's just how the Boogiepop series is to begin with.

>>22585486
>new story in the same world featuring characters from the source
This doesn't mean sidestory. This is just how Boogiepop is. And the fact that Phantom isn't trying to adapt the novels and instead go for an original Boogiepop story is great.

>>22585681
But that's what I'm saying. Boogiepop Phantom is one of the novels in the series, just not the first.

>>22585689
Actually, nevermind, I double checked and it turns out I was remembering wrong. Oh well.

How good is the tsukihime manga?

>>22585915
Better version of Arc's route

>>22582914
It depends on the True Ancestor, I would say most can be defeat easily.
If you mean something like Arcueid, who has actually a Type trait, than she can only be defeated, not killed.
Also, Shirou would need the Black Barrel or Longinus to do the job, as his only chance would be a one hit KO.

W H E R E??
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>>22586518
never

>>22586518
>huron

>>22582430
Why is her hand so tiny?

>>22586518
sent

>>22585038
Yes!

>>22586881
They're normal sized most of the time, though Koyama's hands are not very consistent.

Damn the FGO anime is kino

>>22587825
no it's not and don't convince yourself otherwise

>>22587030
You think Koyama's hands are bad? Let me present you to early Takeuchi.

>>22587907
>double jointed thumb
I didnt notice this the first time through

>>22587916
This isn't the only example. Only one i can remember that isn't saved was the Shiki and Ciel CG, both of them on the ground, Ciel in her battle clothes, and she on top of him.

>>22587907
Don't forget Sakura's elongated foot-hand in her FSN sprites.

>>22587907
We all know Takeuchi is far worse.

I just want more luvia but her big chance to become popular by showing up in the kusoge backfired by making her a gorilla

>>22582618
Akiha loves to be spoiled by her nii-san!

>>22588335
Your best bet is to hope the adapt the rest of case files.

>>22588335
I haven't gotten round to reading HA yet, is she any good in that?

>>22588372
I'm glad she got an anime original episode

>>22588413
I never read it either because of the translation drama. was it actually fully translated or just babelfish? luvia was my favorite character in unlimited codes.

>>22587857
It was though the awesome fight this episode was so cool

>>22588554
in that case, it's no better than a run of the mill battle shounen.

>>22588577
It's just the usual shill baiter who keeps posting about Babylonia cancer here, best to ignore him.

What the fuck was Waver's problem? Was he mad because he assumed Flat thought he was so shit at galge he needed a guide to play them right?

does anyone have a link to the shinji drama cd that was included with the deluxe pamphlet for lost butterfly?

>>22586000
Just arc?

>>22589532
There's some parts from the other routes thrown in, but it's mostly a rewrite of Arc's route, yes.

Which route has the option to kill shinji? I forgot which one

So uh, have they released any new information on the Tsukihime Remake, or just any new project recently?

Last I heard the remake was on the playtesting stage.

Hi friends, I have a question.
Does anyone know the name of this attack? It kinda looks like a variation of Brahmastra Kundala, but I'm not really sure. I searched everywhere but didn't find any answers.

>>22590428
No, the last one was the playtesting. It dates july, although the news was known at october. So, yeah, no updates during this 6 months.
>>22590906
He had 4 Hougu originally
Kavacha and Kundala
Brahmastra Kundala
Brahmastra
Vasavi Shakti
The first one is his armor and earring, so guess it wouldn`t be the case.
Brahmastra is the eye laser shot and Brahmastra Kundala is Brahmastra mixed with Mana Burst. Brahmastra can only be used after the armor is destroyed and Vasavi Shakti is deployed.
Vasavi Shakti is pretty much the name of Spear being also the name of this trump card.
So, assuming in the gif he still has his armor, he probably used Vasavi Shakti differently, much like Saber does with different Excalibur beams. Brahma power is like Sun power, so anything he does end up the some (explosion).

I want to bully Tohsaka

>>22591864
That is what Tsundere are made for.

>>22591864
how can one character be so shit?
does she have any redeeming features at all?
why can't she just be honest about how she feels?

>>22592060
Because the point of a tsundere is to see through her while she is trying cutely and hard to act mature.
I mean, Rin is just Nasu copying Evangelion for the third time so, gotta bear with it if you hate this archetype.

Who wins between touko and leo?

Observer on Retardness Temple
Epic of Retards
Cosmos in the Retardbelts
What shall be the next retardation?

>>22592168
Shiki can kill servants. Discuss.

>>22592251
Only if he has something like Caster buff on him, like Kuzuki.
Otherwise any Shiki will be just a melee glass cannon which is the single worst design ever.

If you were dropped in the nasuverse
Who is the strongest character/being you could bang?

>>22592320
whoever feels romantic towards a complete loser

>>22592320
probably Lord El-Melloi II since I'm a pussy

>>22592435
gray would be easier and is strnoger

>>22592487
but why would she choose anybody other than Waver?

>>22592553
depending on when you arrive you can just go kidnap her from her shitty village and never let her meet waver
of course that means waver dies later on and never dismantles the greater grail so you gotta take care of that

>>22592156
Rin is meh for the archetype.
The archetype is great.

olga marie would bethe easiest lay in the franchise

>>22592320
Lancer.

Not my first choice, but he'd be the easiest to convince for sex.

>>22592704
I don't think you're the same anon but you do understand that what he criticized was not Rin original traits but rather a very specific application of her Tsundere-ism, right?
I mean, hate the character all you want, but please don't make a strawman in this thread.

So, FGOtards, western and eastern, are complaining that cardboard MC is being cardboard MC.
Maybe the anime made the worthlessness of the plot evident?

>>22593264
I think I know well enough.
Does not change the fact that Rin is a straight downgrade to her precursors.

>>22593614
Rin is an okay character for what she is supposed to be.
She is not supposed to be a fucking powerful Mahou Tsukai.
She is not supposed to be a noble oni.
She is not even supposed to be a generic tsundere.
She is supposed to be a catholic associated magus from an important family aside from other plot devices. If she happens to be bad in this trait, then yes, she is bad. If she does not fits a different character build from an old character, well, I think she is not supposed to in the first place?

>>22593660
I don't consider her to be bad, just meh.
And it only becomes easier when done by comparison.

>ちなみに、よくお問い合わせをいただく「月姫R」だとかは、TYPE-MOON本体が鋭意制作中でありまして……むしろ自分も楽しみに待っている立場だよ！ というわけでして……studio BB管轄の作品ではございませんので、そこはご理解くださいませ。

https://note.com/studiobb/n/n7738a01f9e16

Lads...

>>22583950
Twice (Prototype)?

>>22590428
Just briefly mentioned
https://note.com/studiobb/n/n7738a01f9e16
>Greeting (Kazuya Niino)
>Although I was addicted to making offices and recruiting jobs, I finally settled down and became an environment where I can make games.
>Let's take a look at the studio.

>In studio BB, I'm going to make three things.

>1. Related work of existing titles of TYPE-MOON
>2. New title in Nasu's view of the world (in a broad sense)
>3. Completely new title in TYPE-MOON style (in the broad sense)

>For “3”, which is too ambiguous, please think that it is ant. If the president and Nasu say "It looks interesting", it's like an ant!

>By the way, “Tsukihime R”, which I often get inquiries about, is eagerly working on the TYPE-MOON itself ... I'm in a position to look forward to it! That's why it is not a work under the jurisdiction of studio BB, so please understand that.

>...So, now that you are starting, what games can you make with studio BB? How much quality can you play? “1” is being developed as a benchmark to measure the ability of studio BB.
>I feel like I can show you something by next summer.

>Then everyone, thank you again.

>Kazuya Niino / studio director
Also Studio BB's official twitter is out today too btw.

>>22594051
At least we confirmed that the remake isn't being touched by BBniggers.
Also, I bet my lunch it will be Extella Zero/Extra Remake.
And I bet my dinner it will have ten times more updates than Tsukihime Remake ever had.

>>22592905
she's a stuck up bitch who looks down at anyone who doesn't have blue magus blood.

>>22594065
>it will have ten times more updates than Tsukihime Remake ever had.
If that happens it'll be no one's fault but Nasu's honestly.

>>22594043
>>22594051
They've been eagerly working on the Tsukihime Remake for 10 years.

>>22593274
What do they honestly expect from a blank faced self insert for their glorified slot machine? Do they even know what they're fans of?

>>22594327
>eagerly

>>22594128
eh I think she would warm up to anyone who gave her heartfelt compliments blue magus blood or not

>>22592156
because that's the whole point of her character. She is not a tsundere just to being a tsundere, she became like that because she is split up between her honnest sentiment as a person and her duty as a magus and as the head of the tohsaka familly. I don't think she is that great either but she is definitely not a bad tsundere.

>>22582618
Nigger it's literally written on it.

>>22594043
Is this real videogames or mobileshit?

>>22596568
Supposed to be a variety of games. Studio BB isn't news.

>>22596568
>>22596585
>studio BB has a policy of developing with two pillars: medium to large 3D games developed in cooperation with external developers and small 2D games developed in-house.

Google translate because EOP. From what it seems, they purposely didn't make it clear what they are developing for. Though it can be assumed "medium to large 3D games" can be seen as games similar to Extra or Extella, in terms of scale. 2D games might be mobage. I don't know what they could possibly be referring to. Like a Metroidvania type game?

>>22594578
Romani says in Lostroom that Da Vinci is fond of Olga as a younger sister but Olga doesn't like or trust Da Vinci at all. Heck, not even Guda or Mashu get the younger sister treatment from Da Vinci. She just thinks of them as students, only Loli Vinci sees Mashu as her sister.
>The old me might have thought of Mashu as a pupil, but for the current me, she's closer to something like a blood relative. Is she like an adorable younger sister or a lovely elder sister, I wonder. Either way, I will do my best to serve as her guide.

>>22596906
the Da Vinci thinking of Olga as a younger sister claim is such bullshit the day after Olga got sent to a fate of infinite death she was chipper as can be besides it's hard to comment on interactions we've never actually seen. I imagine Olga's problem with her would be Da Vinci doesn't really seem to take things seriously. Also speaking of Da Vinci how long has Da Vinci actually been around since during the prologue of Orleans it's clear Mash hasn't met her before then

>>22596954
>Also speaking of Da Vinci how long has Da Vinci actually been around since during the prologue of Orleans it's clear Mash hasn't met her before then
Da Vinci was summoned in 2012. A lot of materials later like Chaldea Scrap or Babylonia ep 0, there were many scenes with small Mash, Roman and Da Vinci together so i think it's safe to say Nasu retconned this already, unless Mash's reaction to Da Vinci's introduction in Orleans is supposed to make the MC feel surprise about how cool Chaldea/servants are, something akin to that (but this sounds very weak anyway, i don't buy this at all).
>I imagine Olga's problem with her would be Da Vinci doesn't really seem to take things seriously.
Yeah but honestly when it comes to decision about Chaldea's duty/first important mission (Singularity F), you would think Olga'd agree with Roman and Lev's recommend about Da Vinci because while Da Vinci seems to be a carefree person, it's not like she is irresponsible about her works. Also in that scene, Olga looked down on Da Vinci and said she couldn't trust her (despite what Roman and Lev said) and then Roman told her about the younger sister thing, yet her opinion didn't change though.

>>22596906
>>22596954
>>22597144
I wish FGO would just use their absolute gigantic script to actually tell a story with characters in it instead of shoving all that shit into side-projects and material books so they can put in some more filler dialogue that adds literally nothing of worth.

>>22597228
That's because FGO is a mobage that tries to be a VN and also a VN that tries to be a mobage.
In the end being neither.
FGO is becoming lackluster for mobage standards already, as most fanservice characters that people want are staring to be denied by Nasu because he wants to make a consistent story. (laughs)
However, DW also blocks Nasu from doing heavy texts because they need to make a readable text for zoomers.
GBF is being a good example of how focusing only on one things shows better and satisfying results than being an amalgamate.

>>22597144
>you would think Olga'd agree with Roman and Lev's recommend about Da Vinci because while Da Vinci seems to be a carefree person, it's not like she is irresponsible about her works.
I mean not during the game but that was when it was the end of the world but it's not hard to believe that her carefree attitude could have been a pain before
>Also in that scene, Olga looked down on Da Vinci and said she couldn't trust her (despite what Roman and Lev said) and then Roman told her about the younger sister thing, yet her opinion didn't change though.
Yeah I imagine she didn't like her carefree attitude it's not hard to imagine Olga who took things very seriously having a problem with Da Vinci cause of it. As for her mind not changing just cause Roman says it doesn't make it very convincing I can't blame Olga for not being convinced especially when end the end it seems Da Vinci didn't care about Olga after all.

Can someone explain why godhand flat out did not work against saber alter?

>>22598367
Cause Saber Alter vs Hercules never happened in the VN. Beserker just got swallowed by the shadow and that was it.

>godhand flat out did not work against saber alter
Also not sure what you mean, godhand is just his 12 lives so if Saber Alter is killing him each time, his noble phantasm is working.
It's just that there's nothing to stop him from dying if he's outmatched.

>HA crashed in the middle of Shinji's hanafuda route, after burning through 54 retries
just end my life already

>>22598446
he's suposed to get resistance from whateer killed him
excalibur shhouldn't be able to kill him so many times

>Cause Saber Alter vs Hercules never happened in the VN.

Oh man, are y'all ready for the biggest of Nasu asspulls for why the self-insert kun can beat one the supposed best magi in Fate and his huge arsenal of high powered servants?

>>22598677
As far as I remember, he gets immunity of tha area that defeated him, not immune against the weapon. This means that Alter needs to kill him in 12 different ways and that will suffice.

Wasn't it clarified that Herc doesn't actually gain immunity, just a really high resistance?

>>22599032
yeah but he doesn't even need to die to gain it, just get damaged

Just finished my 3rd read of F/SN. Time to read HA but with actual voices for the first time (original read was before the voice patch and all that). Should be fun.

https://youtu.be/m8_Lkl5_fvE

what do you think of this ?

Let's not forget that in Ufo-UBW Saber managed to kill Berserker without even calling Excalibur's true name.

>>22597267
>GBF is being a good example of how focusing only on one things shows better and satisfying results than being an amalgamate

>>22599256
>otaku youtubers
no thanks

I have been having this feeling that the TsukiR will have a major update this month or early next year.
But for some reason I am starting to feel frightened about it.
I don't think I want the Remake anymore.

>>22598839
I really don't care because Kirsch already is a shit character. Nasu just took Reinhard from dies irae and put him in FGO, choping off everything that didn't fit in the process but adding nothing of worth.

>>22600404
Middle-era KnK/Melty Blood Takeuchi art was great but I can't stand looking at the characters in the new style.

What is this I hear about the contract for the Tsukihime anime with Geneon screwing Melty Blood over?

>>22600830
It's bullshit is what it is. Melty blood stopped happening because Nasu wanted them to wait for tsukihime remake. It's cited on wikipedia and everything.

https://www.4gamer.net/games/128/G012841/20121101001/

The game began development some time in 2010. Nobuya Narita discussed how the project arose from the development team's experiences working on Melty Blood. French-Bread originally planned to work on a new HD title in the Melty Blood series, but development later stalled while Type-Moon went on to work on Mahōtsukai no Yoru. Early prototypes eventually provided the foundations for Under Night In-Birth. Narita particularly emphasized that they wanted to differentiate the game from Melty Blood, so the lore, visuals, systems, and combat flow are much different from their previous work. It is also the team's first game to run in high definition and features hand-drawn high-resolution sprites.

>>22600933
Actually, it's even worse now that I read it.
のメルブラって，長年の増改築でストーリーなどがごちゃごちゃし過ぎてしまい，どうやって続きを作るか，一度整理する必要があったんです。ですが原作者である奈須さん（TYPE-MOON 奈須きのこ氏）が，当時確か「魔法使いの夜」でとくに多忙な時期だったので，どんどん後回しになっていってですね（苦笑）。
They weren't sure how the story would be continued thanks to all the different game versions for example, so they needed to really discuss and meet how to proceed all things considered, but Nasu was so busy working on Mahoyo that he kept on postponing until they went "This will go quicker if we just do our own thing entirely." Nasu literally didn't give a fuck about them.

>>22600404
I feel the same. On one hand I want it, on the other everything Nasu has worked on post Mahoyo this decade has been such a disappointment I'm afraid it's going to seep into Tsukire.

>>22600955
Like I've said before, French Bread is literally too good for TYPE-MOON. I hope they never work with them ever again.

>>22600955
> give T-M the only good game besides UC, that's related to their universe
> get shat on
Holy shit, fuck Nasu.
Besides the big pile of shit made up from rock-paper-scissor games, musou garbage and gachashit you actually had something that was working and you fucking had to blew that as well.

>>22600955
>don't take time to talk to french bread
>so you can finish mahoyo
>a game that would end up being delayed anyway for technical reasons
>a game that was supposed to be the start of a trilogy but then you abandon that too
It's amazing how he made the worst possible choice.

>>22600493
>Nasu just took Reinhard from dies irae and put him in FGO, choping off everything that didn't fit in the process but adding nothing of worth
are you on crack

>>22602305
Do you really not see the very fucking obvious similarities?

>>22602332
Well first off I never touched Dies Irae, and the only similarity I see is the long blond hair.

>>22602403
then you don't have the right to call that anon out you fucking piece of shit, hang yourself FGOfag

>>22602332
I know reinhard and he is a very likeable character personally, but reinhard is a little more chaotic than wodime. The latter is pretty lawful and seems to be very respectful and serious, even a little naive. What one would expect from a high and elite magus.
Reinhard likes to tease, is kind of arrogant and kinda psychopathic in a sense and seems to want to do things his way and for his own enjoyment with a touch of religious based romantism within his interpretation, although in the core very chaotic and crazy imo.

>>22602522
Except I wasn't calling him out, I was wondering what the fuck he was talking about. If he's going to say shit like that, least he can do is explain himself.

And I'm not into FGO, thanks.

>>22600493
>Nasu just took Reinhard from dies irae and put him in FGO
It's fine bro, Reinhard was just a copy of Gil after all, Masada said so himself.

I am actually reading Dies Irae now btw.
Hope it feels the gap that TM created.

>>22602130
kohaku!!!

>>22599237
>Just finished my 3rd read of F/SN. Time to read HA but with actual voices for the first time (original read was before the voice patch and all that). Should be fun.

What are your top 5 scenes from F/SN, /tmg/?

>>22604642
the only things I remember are mind of steel and sparks liner high, at this point.

>>22604642
1-Kirei's exorcism on Zouken.
2-Pretty much any sermon made by Kirei
3-Nine Lives Blade Works
4-The scene of Shirou discovering the remnants of the fire inside the church
5-Bad Ending of him giving up participating the war (the one berserker cuts him in half)

>>22604642
SLH > everything else

How would you fix Nvrsqtsfsrs, Roa and Wallachia for the remake?

>>22604801
>4-The scene of Shirou discovering the remnants of the fire inside the church

My favorite scene was when Shirou first tried fighting Gil in the Fate route. The monologue of him resolving to protect Saber at all costs, him purposefully frying his brain in order to trace a sword that could try and match Gil, the sounds of scraping metal as his body was being fused back together after being nearly cut in half, Saber quietly crying and begging Shirou to stop. That scene was pure kino in all forms.

Kotomine flat out offered Shirou the grail if he would use it to save all of the other orphans that Gil had been soul-snacking on in the church basement. Shirou turns this wish down knowing it would require retconning away the fire and destroying the person he is. The parallels with Saber's wish for someone else to rule Camelot are very deliberate.

Saber's arc hints the truth of the Matou family and Grail War itself.

"Fate was more a set-up introductory route with Saber romance" is just a bad misconception.

>>22604915
The epilogue and ending is also most impactful with maybe only true HF ending being comparable maybe mind of steel too.

>routes build on each other
can you give an example so I can understand?

>>22605573
Things that are explicitly shown/stated in a route are only implied or hinted at in the next one. Shirou's character arc progresses along the three routes.
For example, HF supposes you already know that Archer is Shirou and both UBW and HF have scenes that only hit if you know Saber's backstory and how Shirou feels about her.

>>22582430
dumb question but how do I install the games? I don't know how

>>22605014
Easy, I'll write whatever the I feel like, butcher the characters and exaggerate everything and it will work out in the end because it will never come out.

Very cool powercreep, why do I even bother.

>>22606104
How recent is that?

>>22606140
2 hours

>>22606104
What's it say?

Also this now exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umKFeLrizRE&feature=youtu.be

>>22606188
the energy gathering at the greece tree is equal to Goetia's burning of all of human history.

>>22606221
How can I delete somebody else's work?

>>22606221
W E W
E
W

Nasu really knows how to crack me up something fierce.

>>22604642
No particular order.
>Initial meeting in the shack between Saber and Shirou
>Sakura/Rin fight in HF
>SLH
>Ilya/Shirou's grocery shopping
>Last Episode

>>22604642
Shirou summoning Saber
Shirou summoning Saber to his school during Fate route
Berserker reviving after Rin blasted his head off
Sakura telling Shirou how she first met him
Sakura and Shirou rain scene

>>22604642
I don't really have a top 5, but my favorite scene has got to be when Saber disappears in the Fate route. It feels like time around them stops, and they are the only two in the world. It's the culmination of their entire relationship in that one scene. Both know they can't prevent the inevitable, so they don't try and stop it. Shirou understands that she must move on regardless of how he feels, and Saber leaves him with her affirmation of love. Her smile at the end is a nice touch, it feels different then her normal one, and I always thought it signified her being at peace with herself from now on.

The True End Bedivere scene and Last Episode as well. The former feels so ephemeral and the latter because I'm a goddamn Saberfag.

Anyone here done with Lostbelt 5 yet?

>>22606784
not anyone who actually reads the story, which I assume is what you want to know.

>>22606784
I haven't even started and honestly knowing that there'll be a part 2 really kills a lot of motivation.
If they split LB6 and 7 too, Lostbelt trash could go on until 2022 and that makes feel deader inside than ever.
Strange Fake being handed over to A-1 pictures is also a huge disappointment, even if it's just a CM.

>>22606803
>Strange Fake being handed over to A-1 pictures is also a huge disappointment
I wouldn't say so. Apocrypha got pretty good treatment from them. The only issue is the source material was straight trash, its pretty hard to salvage.

>>22606803
wait, LB5 legit isn't fucking finished and they didn't even bother mentioning it before launch?

>>22606821
I don't know anon, their character designs have always sucked and I find the adaptations to be straightforward and unimaginative. You are right that both Apocrypha and Babylonia (not A-1 but basically same shit) both suffer from garbage source materials, but even with a better source I feel like a FSF anime would be "cool for the fight scenes" at best. Everything else would just be a lame by the books retelling of the novels.

>>22606869
Nope, I guess they intended it as a big surprise for FGOfags. Congrats, you'll get to enjoy this shitshow kusoge for many months longer.

I can't play Stay Night from the mega file. it says something about there not being a disc 3. anyone know what to do?

>>22606784
Honestly with all of the crazy shit happening, plus incoming part 2, I really hope the MC loses someone important. The plot armor is actually pissing me off.

>>22606876
>their character designs have always sucked
The character designs weren't by them and if you're talking about their general animation style, with how their eyes always look the same, Apocrypha was excused from that. It's obvious when you watch the show.
>I find the adaptations to be straightforward and unimaginative.
Their adaptations aren't any different than the rest of the industry. If anything, Apocrypha was far better then most adaptations, because it actually made the last couple of episodes much more entertaining then the novels ever could.
>Everything else would just be a lame by the books retelling of the novels.
Then why the fuck do you care at all? You're probably not the same anon, but its not a disappointment because the rest of the industry wouldn't treat it any differently. Ufotable's adaptations weren't especially imaginative either, Fate's track record has always been by the books. Fate/Zero is only better then novels because its writer really liked to pad things out. It's virtually the same experience but much better paced.
>I feel like a FSF anime would be "cool for the fight scenes" at best.
Good to know you haven't watched Baccano or Durarara, and how you have no idea Narita's anime adaptations are always different experiences then their novel counterparts.

There's no reason anyone should be pre-disposed to hating A-1. They are barely a studio, most of their animators exist to pump out the LN adaptation garbage like Asterisk War or SAO, and for any other project with slight money pumped into it are always outside hires. Everyone knows this. Their name on it just means Aniplex might have a bit of control, that's the only real criticism here.

>>22606950
? they're reviving fou and roman.

>>22604298
source?

>>22606803
Why are they even bothering? Strange Fake won't be done for years

>>22606958
also it's already confirmed loli vinci dies because DW are retards and updated the character profiles months before.

>>22606784
I finished checking Lostbelt 5 part 1
It is decent I would say. I still dislike how "Fate worlds" works, but it was entertaining.
We had also Shiroumasa and Kireisputin. Hope they get released at some point.

>>22606956
>Good to know you haven't watched Baccano or Durarara, and how you have no idea Narita's anime adaptations are always different experiences then their novel counterparts.

Those were not done by A-1 which is my whole point you fucking retard.
A-1's entire output since 2013 is all the reason anyone needs to hate them.

>>22606968
Probably because it was the top request anime adaptation of any LN at an event last year, they're just trying to cash in on the hype as long as it exists, regardless of Narita's health issues.

>>22607209
>Those were not done by A-1 which is my whole point you fucking retard.
>and for any other project with slight money pumped into it are always outside hires.
You fucking retard.
>A-1's entire output since 2013 is all the reason anyone needs to hate them.
This is funny because Your Lie in April came out in 2014, Wotakoi last year, and Kaguya-sama came out this year, off the top of my head. It's such a funny coincidence that all of these happen to have amazing source material, its almost as if that's the reason for their success and almost all of their bombs are because of shit source material with only a couple of exceptions.

The only reason you should hate A-1 Pictures is because Aniplex constantly forces them to adapt shitty material so they can make money. It's no coincidence that given good source material, their adaptations are on par with their source material. Fuck off with this stupid shit. You're so obviously biased.

>>22588413
She really only appears in one scene where Rin explains how she met her. She also makes a cameo in the Kaleido Ruby scene, I guess.
>>22588488
It's been translated for like five years now, and even has a voice patch.

>>22589970
He dies in every route but UBW. Ilya kills him in Fate, and Sakura kills him in HF.

>>22607281
Those 3 shows you listed are garbage popular only for their generic mainstream appeal, there's nothing interesting or good about them. You're just contributing to the point that A-1 is the most soulless corporate pseudo-studio that will do anything that's popular, so it's unsurprising that they're treating Fate as another one of their cookie cutter shows considering what it's become in recent years.
I just hoped for something better for a Narita work.

>>22607329
LOOK IT'S THE CHARACTERS YOU LOVED 15 YEARS AGO BUT NOT REALLY THEM
PLEASE CLAP

>>22607329
fgo is worse than disney star wars

>>22607333
Rasputin and Senji Muramasa probably mixed with Hephasteus.

>>22607318
>Those 3 shows you listed are garbage popular only for their generic mainstream appeal, there's nothing interesting or good about them.
Please hit me with more controversial edgy opinions, Senpai. I want more of your vapid takes that are so vague that can basically be applied to any piece of media. Please tell me how everything ever made nowadays is consumerist garbage and way back when everything was art.

man I sure wish FGO had an actual cast of characters instead of 200 fucking servants forcing me to read pages and pages of filler dialogue every single new story chapter that is supposed to make me give a shit.

>>22602130
Kotaku!

>>22588750
- I want heart is thumaing with you -

>>22606890
Ask /vn/

>>22607458
Not nothing heart

>>22604642
It's hard to pick. HF is my favorite route and it's chock full of amazing scenes. Just off the top of my head in no particular order:
Archer vs Shirou
Kotomine vs Shirou
Illya consuling Shirou in HF where he resolves to become Sakura's protector
Rin vs Sakura at the end of HF
Mapo fucking Tofu

I heard that Nasu didnt write everything in FHA is that true ? and if it is which part was written by who ?

>>22608396
No he wrote the whole main story, some of the slice of life scenes had other writers.

>>22607318
>Those 3 shows you listed are garbage popular only for their generic mainstream appeal, there's nothing interesting or good about them
based

>>22606803
A-1 can either be complete trash or amazing.
It is directly proportional to how many freelancers are working on a given episode.

>>22606221
Greece tree is connected to all trees (the branches are connected or something it explains), it's the gathering of all the trees energies.

>>22606221
The Atlas tree receives the harnassed other trees because their branches were joint or something. It's explained by Kirsch when rambling about how it's almost done.

>>22608998
They can have amazingly animated fight scenes, but amazing direction? Haven't seen that from one of their shows in many years.

Kirsch is a genius in magecraft who CAN make the impossible possible. Kirsch was never impressed by anyone of the clock tower (except Marisbury I guess, and Daybit?), treating the thousand years mages as regular people. He's such an impressive genius they assumed he would easily open the 13th faculty.

>>22609131
He sounds like a fucking Chad. If I wasn't rooting for him already I would be.

>>22609131
What a fucking Chad. If I wasn't rooting for him already I would be.

>>22609125
That relies of freelance direction overriding the series director.
That is much rarer.

>>22609125
>but amazing direction?
Its usually just very normal direction. Not anything new or imaginative, just what you would expect from an average tier show. Most of their popular shows aren't because of the direction, its usually because of the animation and the source material being good in the first place.

https://soundcloud.com/ts2000/red-magus

I finished a jazz arrangement of some themes from the UBW anime.

>>22607429
wait a second

https://abema.tv/channels/abema-anime/slots/CA5mxCTx9aWG7q
So this stream is the last best moment we could have relevant news for us. Why? Because it is said that, on top of the HF3 updates, we will have 特報 (news flash).
Not saying that could be something else entirely. But if you're like me and have nothing better to do, give it a shot.
Oh btw forgot to say, the stream is regio n locked, still figuring out how to watch it.

>>22610139
>last best moment
Why the last?

>>22610166
Because we won't have any other event happening after that.
So the probability will be the same as any other day, which is low to 0.

>>22610139
>Oh btw forgot to say, the stream is regio n locked, still figuring out how to watch it.
Ok, any VPN works. Just checked it.

>>22609105
>>22609112
Yes, and?

>>22610712
It's the energy of the 7 lb across all their development of course would be equivalent.

>>22610366
Does Windscribe VPN work with the stream?

>>22607282
>It's been translated for like five years now, and even has a voice patch.
Thank fuck that guy autistically ripped every line from vita. The game is so much more fun with voices.

>>22611351
Don't forget about the true Hero of that story.

spring song new PV https://twitter.com/AIR_News01/status/1207639164193144833?s=19

>>22583950
Stray servant prototype is 100% Mash. She was a shielder using a shield very similar to Mash. They scrapped it but she became one of the most iconic character in the nasuverse thanks to FGO.

>>22604642
What the fuck is this reddit tier shit chart

>>22610097
Pretty cool anon.

>>22611437
I wonder how this guy feels knowing that he singlehandedly saved F/HA from eternal translation hell.

>>22611508
I don't recall Saber Alter and Rider fighting on top of collapsing cave debris in the VN.

>>22611746
The cave was technically collapsing so they probably just add that in to look cool. I'm not really expecting much from the last movie besides more rushed crap and cool fights.

>>22611756
How many key moments are there left to adapt? I don't think there are many to cover.

>>22611792
The movie ended right after Sakura kills Shinji. There aren't a lot of days left in the VN, but all of the last days of HF are very long and nonskippable.

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201912/19189405.html
Here is a link for the article about Type Moon Museum. It has some shots of things that I didn't think they would put.
Was there anythin Tsukihime related? Well, the heroinew list had yet again the only image of Arcueid in the remake, which makes me wonder: don't they have better images to use? Does this mean they don't have any Remake asset ready? Probably they just want to be secret about it... ot maybe not?
Anyway, happy Fate 15th anniversary I guess.

>>22611741
Jack got fucking livid and HERO regretted his actions in true EMIYA fashion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS9fjE9qiK8
This is the most talented magus of our generation.

>>22611877
Thinking of heading to this next week.

>>22612223
How can Lorelei even compete?

>>22612311
Kirsch can only do that shit because he's in a lostbelt. It actually reminded me how much I hate nasu. He has the skill to do this in the real timeline, but it can't be done in modern day. Because the perception of the sky/universe was different in ancient greek and the lostbelt evolved from it he can grab all the energy using astrology and is equal to Zeus.

>>22612223
Seeing people who don't even understand the story or his character get butthurt he can't be beat so easily should be amusing, but it's frustrating instead.

>>22611887
What exactly happened...?

>>22612361
Dude. Gordolf worked for Lorelei and he praised Krisch. He is a guy who would have made a new Faculty if was not for Chaldea. Lorelei cannot compared as magus. Also he CONQUERED his lostbelt.

>>22612806
Is Krisch as much of mary sue and he sounds I don't know much about lostbelts but I keep hearing ridiculous things about him

>>22612895
He is a Mary Sue because he is powerful and a genius? You are too invested in footnotes profiles.

>>22612895
He's bullshit like anything in modern nasuverse. Worse then DBZ honestly. Couldn't even keep his servantverse as comedy.

>>22613061
He is an interesting and well defined character though. The mutual interaction between the Crypters has been more fun than Chaldea shit.

>>22612895
Kirch is a gary stu, you mean. If he is or not, kinda? I would say not because he is a villain (so he won't just win just because).
He is defined as a genius and also in possession of a magic crest of 1000 years old.
So in a sense, we have a good explanation inside the rules of the Nasuverse that make him what he is.
But I think the lostbelt factor is also important here:
>It is not him that is strong, it is the lostbelt tree + the fact that he is using Age of Gods sourced means.
What Kirschtaria did simply was recreate a world where people could become Medea.
And he simply used the means of mythology + maybe a better methodology to become a better Medea.
So, we all know Medea is strong as fuck. Put that in a 1000 year old thesis + help from another magus that also created a powerful thesis (Marisbury) and boom, you'll have something very poweful indeed.
We have to also understand that the battle with Kirsch was a typical jRPG battle that "you should lose for plot purposes".
The only complaint I would give is that there is no reason for a human body to be stronger than a servant. They should have put some armor on Kirschtaria. Instead he is fighting you with his human body, taking even Mystic Eyes of Death Perception hits (which for some reason in the game is weak as fuck anyway) and only saying "Hmm".
But he doing magic as strong as True Magic? Well, to me the explanation was plausible, considering what we have on Nasuverse.
And people, c'mon, he fucking punched out the cardboard MC which is the real gary stu here.

>>22613272
"as strong as true magic" doesn't mean anything when they all do different shit.

>>22613272
>I would say not because he is a villain (so he won't just win just because).
that's kinda of a weak reason to say no villain's can still be gary stues. Him being destined to lose because he's a villan doesn't mean he's not a gary stu especially since the person he's going to lose to is a gary stu.

I like Krisch because he is forgiving and efficient. Most of Nasu antagonists are either comically evil or proud and arrogant jobbers. It is nice to see a carismatic leader who cares about his companions but is ruthless against his enemies as villain.

>>22613351
That is why I gave more reasons below that.
But villains will always have a weak spot even if they are ultra perfect. And that already make you a non-gary stu.

>>22613372
So let me see if I got this right he's leader of the Crypters, a genius regarded as being able to change the world, someone all three factions of the Clock Tower had expectations for as a rising star, would have made a new Faculty if it weren't for Chaldea, unafraid even of the monster mages who have lived for centuries, and was possessed of a self-confidence as if he had been chosen by God himself, holds the top records for many fields in the Clock Tower,everyone talks about what a genius he is, beats up servants (I think I remember hearing he even beat up a divine servant), is charismatic, cares about his companions, is forgiving and efficient

this is why I said he sounds like a mary sue does he have any flaws to make up for it all and it has to be something that's actually treated like a flaw

>>22613348
Well, at least Second and Fifth magic are able to do the same shit though.
But indeed, something like the Third is completely different.

>>22613442
>does he have any flaws to make up for it all
He is destinedto lose to a third rate cardboard magus that has as the only skill "Charisma EX for servants".

>>22613438
>But villains will always have a weak spot even if they are ultra perfect. And that already make you a non-gary stu
and I am saying the idea that villains can't be gary stues is ridiculous them be defeated in the end by the hero doesn't really count against being a gary stu since that's just the villain has to lose in the end
Also you explanation seemed mostly about him being able to do stronger magic than normal in his lostbelt didn't he defeat a divine servant even before that or did I hear wrong

>>22613466
As far as I've read from the LB5, he defeated a divine spirit after building the Lostbelt, because the point of what he did was to discover that all Gods are programable robots. He just reprogramed them to bend to his will, hence he "defeated divine spirits".
If there was another source on him defeating a divine servant outside from CitL, like in Clock Tower, I confess I don't know.
But at least in the LB5 part 1 nothing of the sort was said.

>>22607329
I CLAPPED I CLAPPED

>>22613464
Can't wait for whatever bullshit reason that will be given for his defeat.

>>22613372
Wait for him to job to a shitter and lament in the last moment.
It is all tripe.

>>22613442
He's not perfect. He can get damaged. He got bombed and killed (or maybe not depending how you interpreted, but was out comission) because he was caught off guard during the sabotage.
He represses his feelings and takes all the burdens silently which seem to be unhealthy, keeping from his fellow Crypters he was the one who asked for the revival and endured the pain of their return in flesh. He probably would get betrayed by one of them because he doesn't know this, so he has problems to be honest with his fellows and keeps silent about stuff sometimes. His compassion might be a weakness in a sense.

I have no problem he's powerful. The mage angle of TM wasn't explored until recently. It's somehow hilarious I'm to take to face value a literal who nip family like Aozaki produce two amazing mages and hypocritical of /tmg/ to buy that because "it's old so it's good" while the thousand years old bloodlines of Europe don't. Let's be honest, it would be the opposite by Nasu's own world building. Or to pretend it's totally fine someone as unaccomplished and mediocre as Rin can be in the Mage Association Top 100 of all times only because she's a FSN heroine, even though she comes from a mediocre family of magi.

>>22614313
>Aozaki
>literal who
>"it's old so it's good"
>implying
>hypocritical
>implying
Have you heard of Clorox?
I heard it is good for digestion.

>>22614329
Also we already know how good these bloodlines are, you're just pushing the GO angle.

>>22614313
>Let's be honest, it would be the opposite by Nasu's own world building.
Somebody forgot Nasu is the one who wrote the Aozaki's with Touko ever since KnK, and never retconned anything. Hell, he even made a game where one of them is the heroine. Fucking bullshit.
>while the thousand years old bloodlines of Europe don't.
Good strawman on /tmg/, and an amazing misinterpretation of what a Mary Sue is. You fucking retard. When you have powerful characters, they need flaws. Gilgamesh is a prime example. He could literally wipe everyone in FSN yet he doesn't because of his pride. That's a FLAW. When you give somebody a godtier superweapon, you also need a reason why he isn't using it to the best of his abilities. Or else thats a clear Mary Sue. And you've strawmanned this bullshit so hard that you only mentioned his personality and his relationships and not his overwhelming amount of sheer power.
>He's not perfect. He can get damaged. He got bombed and killed (or maybe not depending how you interpreted, but was out comission) because he was caught off guard during the sabotage.
>He's not immortal, can be killed, thus not Mary Sue.
Jesus fucking christ.
>mediocre family of magi
>have owned the land for years
>amazing leylines
>had 2 kids, both having such amazing magic circuits, one was sent to the Makira, a family that used to be much stronger, to revive them again
>Zelretch thought the family would super strong in the future, so she gave them the blueprints for the jewel sword
Whoops sorry, I forgot this was some kind of head-canon by Nasu.
>Mage Association Top 100 of all times only because she's a FSN heroine
Maybe its because she successfully made a replica of the jewel sword, was able to interpret its magical theory much further ahead then Zelretch ever predicted the Tohsaka's would (remember, he knew they eventually would), and be able to constantly use it to its full effect.

Keep pushing the GO narrative. It's so full of holes that /tmg/ collectively can stick their dicks to plug them up and there still would be more.

>>22614507
Original Mahoyo was the introduction, not KnK.

>>22614532
Original Mahoyo never got published. You can't really count it as the first. It's like if you sent out your novel idea to a couple of friends then wrote something similar which did get published.

>>22614877
The concept art and how well it was documented means that it's contents are relevant.

>>22614895
Even though we'll never see the contents and it was reworked into a visual novel a decade later? We don't know how much of the original script contained the lore that's relevant or the story in the VN.

>>22614918
My point is that is was the first time the Aozaki were shown.

>>22614313
>It's somehow hilarious I'm to take to face value a literal who nip family like Aozaki produce two amazing mages and hypocritical of /tmg/ to buy that because "it's old so it's good"
They discovered a link to the root, which is by definition the strongest thing any magi could do in the Nasuverse.
>while the thousand years old bloodlines of Europe don't
Zelretch and Roa? One who has an actual link to the root and another a hacker of the root?
>Mage Association Top 100 of all times only because she's a FSN heroine
She did the hardest homework ever for magi and also have inside kknowledge of every shit that happened on Fuyuki Grail War, what you expected her position to be? Fucking janitor?
This bias torwards FGO is indeed pretentious as fuck, why do you people even come here. You're being worst than /alter/. Actually you might be /alter/, aren't you? /fgog/ is to much occupied sucking r34 of Europa by now to come here of all places.

>Takumi is also the creator of the Ace Attorney series which lends itself well to sequels and has plenty at this point so another one of those
would be the safe bet. A new Ghost Trick is an
unproven riskier use of time but there's also a third possibility, something new. After all, if Takumi had contented himself with Ace Attorney sequels forever we never would have had Ghost Trick in the first place. Every sequel comes with an unseen opportunity cost associated with it, the new thing we could have gotten had the creators worked on that instead.
>Personally, I feel a sequel shouldn't be made unless the creators think they can bring it up to par with the first. Naturally, they won't always hit that target but it should at least be the goal. New things may be more difficult to create but at least they don't have that legacy to uphold. Originality buys you some lenience thanks to its innate sincerity.

Unrelated to Nasu and TM, but I had them running through my mind when I heard this.

>Takumi is also the creator of the Ace Attorney series which lends itself well to sequels and has plenty at this point so another one of those would be the safe bet. A new Ghost Trick is proven riskier use of time but there's also a third possibility, something new. After all, if Takumi had contented himself with Ace Attorney sequels forever we never would have had Ghost Trick in the first place. Every sequel comes with an unseen opportunity cost associated with it, the new thing we could have gotten had the creators worked on that instead.
>Personally, I feel a sequel shouldn't be made unless the creators think they can bring it up to par with the first. Naturally, they won't always hit that target but it should at least be the goal. New things may be more difficult to create but at least they don't have that legacy to uphold. Originality buys you some lenience thanks to its innate sincerity.

Unrelated to Nasu and TM, but I had them running through my mind when I heard this.

>>22615557
"Something new" doesn't exist in Nasu's vocabulary.

>>22615471
I stopped going to /fgog/ recently after realising that the little good there wasn't worth all the cancer.
Over 4 years it took to leave. No regrets.

>>22586518
it's literally a waiting game until FGO Part 2 is done

Nasu just gotta finish that up and then he's free to bust his TsukiNut all over us

>>22615697
Until the next thing comes along to distract him.

I hate powercreep because the flat snark scene was supposed to be impressive.

>>22615655
go back you belong with your fellow cancer

>>22615726
I'm not that guy, didn't think that needed clarification.

>>22615713
It is, conceptually.
The scene does not properly convey it though.

>>22615743
Actual shitposting

>>22614507
>Somebody forgot Nasu is the one who wrote the Aozaki's with Touko ever since KnK,
And? Aozaki is how long bloodline? My point it had no business in being more important and only were because muh nationalist wank/they are important in these workds.

It's more beliviable unknown mage from a thousand years old european bloodline is powerful on the other hand. This is nothing against Touko or Aoko, I'm saying it's already suspect to make two mages from a backwater country as far magecraft is concerned as relevant and important. Rin being in the TOP 100 is a joke too.

>When you have powerful characters, they need flaws
The character has flaws. You're only mad he powercrept your old characters.

>When you give somebody a godtier superweapon, you also need a reason why he isn't using it to the best of his abilities.
But he does use it?

>have owned the land for years
>amazing leylines
>had 2 kids, both having such amazing magic circuits,
None of that is notable. They are a mediocre martial artist bloodline whose only strong trait is how to STEAL shit from other magi (as they did in the Third War). In fact, Imaginary Numbers isn't even as unique when at least two more mages with names and all have it not across history but on the same time period.

Yes, they are mediocre because they have done any research or important discovery.

>Maybe its because she successfully made a replica of the jewel sword,
SHIROU did with Ilya's help. Rin did nothing except getting it handed to her. Also see my point about unoriginal thieves without a theory of their own.

> Tokiomi attempted to manipulate a Grail War just to get killed by his own servant for being a mediocre bore
> Moneysbills wins a Grail War in 5 seconds because he summons an automaton of a Grand Servant

> Aozakis can't even beat Medea
> Kirsch made a theory of pulling mana from the firmament into a spell equal to a planet-busting orbital Artemis cannon.

> Rin gets Redman as a Servant
> Daybit literally rolls a Grand Servant in the gacha

Just imagine how spic the Tohsakas and Aozakis must look to chads like the Animusphere or Daybit.

>>22614313
>He represses his feelings and takes all the burdens silently
oh yes able to shoulder all the burdens without any effect on him yeah sounds like a typical gary stu ((flaw))
>keeping from his fellow Crypters he was the one who asked for the revival and endured the pain of their return in flesh
what's the flaw supposed to be that he doesn't want thanks or that he just too damn nice

>>22615758
Well, nothing is ever truly said about the absolute magnitude of it.

>>22615954
>Aozakis can't even beat Medea
This is where you exposed yourself as a true shitposting tertiary.
Touko likely can't, but Aoko stomps her if she wants to.

>>22615908
>>>/vg/

holmes: "naturally, the quality of mana differs per the layer. the mana that kirschtaria wields is --"
da vinci: "of the cosmos. ergo, of the laws that govern the management of the cosmos. if not that, then it would be impossible for him to control the stars"
da vinci: "by way of artificially forcing the stars to align, he is able to make use of them as a vast thaumaturgical circuit"
da vinci: "as of present time, you could probably consider him the magus that wields the thaumaturgical circuit of the greatest scale ever seen within the history of man"
da vinci says that kirschtaria wodime is probably the apex of man

>>22617031
Jesus Christ and some anon tried to claim he's not a mary sue could they suck his dick any harder

>>22617095
Being overpowered doesn't really make a character a Mary Sue

>>22617208
I was referring to da vinci calling him a mary sue genius

>>22617242
fuck I meant calling him the apex of man

>>22617095
Despite his powerlevel, "chaldea man" swoops in and stops his attack and he reluctantly agree to let chaldea live to avoid a fight with him.

>>22617311
again I was talking about da vinci calling him the apex of man besides solomon of all people being able to stop his attack hardly counts against being a mary sue

>>22615954
> spics
> chads
You have to go back

>>22616194
Nasu says both of them lose vs Memedea.

>>22615908
>The character has flaws. You're only mad he powercrept your old characters.
As someone already stated: oh yes able to shoulder all the burdens without any effect on him yeah sounds like a typical gary stu ((flaw))
It's such a fallacy jesus christ.
Types are still the strongest in their respective planets. So he didn't powercreep anybody. Fuck off.
>But he does use it?
Thanks for proving my point.
>None of that is notable.
Leylines are very notable. Land is a key factor in any Magi bloodline, and is the reason the Makiri feel off, because the land was not compatible. Them having amazing leylines they can build off of make them an amazing family. I'm pretty sure the original VN stated at one point that a Magi is worthless without these things.
>mediocre martial artist bloodline
Thanks for proving you haven't read the VN or know anything about Rin. Hint hint, they use gems.
>Rin did nothing except getting it handed to her.
You can't use the jewel sword unless you know how. That's where Rin was special. You need to be able to build the sword in the first place, and THEN interpret the magical theory in order to put it in function. The fact that Rin could do so surprised Zelretch, not the fact that she could replicate the sword, since its likely they won't be able to again.

Anyone knows something new about the new MnY english patch? Have they translated any new chapters?

>>22598630
There is a fix I found online butI genuinely don't remember what it was.

Search for "Hollow Ataraxia hanafuda crash fix" or something like that.

>>22617793
>Types are still the strongest in their respective planets.
LB5 retconned them.

>>22617852
Thanks, but I was playing through WINE so there's a lot of unexpected and unreported problems that never happen again.

>Tachie aka Mash who was going to be an original heroine for FSN Anime
>She’s a girl who died in the Fuyuki Fire resurrected by a Holy Grail War participating Necromancer who is using her as a vessel for the Servant Galahad to conserve mana. She has a personal grudge against Shirou for being a survivor and the fact that he abandoned her when she was calling for help in the fire after a building crumbled upon her. Or at least that’s how she saw. Much more violent. Kills people to survive and get revenge on Shirou but somehow knows that there is something wrong with her desire for vengeance. Ultimately she realizes why Shirou survived, and that she was already dead. Let’s go of her hatred and saves him. And perishes.

>>22617874
From what I understood: Gaia (as in the planet consciousness) is a Titan, most of the gods are made to run the things inside, but the Olympian gods were originally super weapons sent to invade Gaia by other Titans (who are outsiders of the Domain). This is because they thought things Gaia did were wrong or dangerous, so want to kill her and take over the process. However, Alaya/Humanity will grabbed those super weapons and made them humane and relying on humanity. LB greek gods never gained humanity but simply became even more powerful weapons (because of 16k+ development) in the hands of humans who use prayers to reprogramme them.

Gotta bet this is going to be explored later in Extella 'cause the "Sephyr" is called the "White Titan."

Is Wodime actually stronger than Aoko? Thought he was just a minor antagonist

>all these fucking retards getting their lore from /vg/ summaries who get it from reddit

>>22616194
Nasu has literally said they can't beat her.

>>22618005
His superpowers come from being in a lostbelt. He can't do any of this shit in a normal timeline no matter how talented he is, which is why he never got hit with a sealing designation. They state that he is equal to zeus so he has more firepower than aoko, but if Aoko was smart about her usage of true magic that wouldn't even matter. Then again, this is a pointless discussion in the first place because Nasu has dropped zero hints that Aoko or any other major Magi didn't get stabbed to death by a fucking tree. Can't take any focus away from Guda being the saviour of humanity.

>>22591864
I want Rin to bully ME.

>>22618062
>which is why he never got hit with a sealing designation.
He never got hit by that because he has a backup of a thousand years old bloodline and the support of the three factions in the Clocktower.

Aoko also couldn't have been able to do shit if wasn't for her grandfather leaving her stuff to her. You don't know exactly how else he'll be able to evolve. What matters more than Kirschs that the Astromancy magecraft is really busted.

>>22617909
Sefar is just 白い巨人 in the JP script, unless LB5 uses the same kanji with a "titan" furigana it is pure coincidence caused by the english localization until more lore is provided. You get 99 hits on the JP TM wiki for 巨人.

>>22618114
https://youtu.be/CN4fymG6IsQ?t=16632
don't argue with me when you didn't read the fucking chapter and just get off on powerlevel fagging on the internet.

Hollow Ataraxia question

Are the scenes in the church that you unlock after beating the game just the same scenes but with Angra instead of Shirou?

Well, I guess it was always Angra, but you get what I mean

>>22618123
I should check this out. I forgot Extella when I read that.

Capsule Servant is a big success

So it wasn't just her design and class, the demi Servant Galahad thing was indeed an original heroine Nasu made in 2016. Of course the process was less clean as Mashu's.
I'm now curious about his scenario with the Beast and the Ages of God which seem to be very old. He didn't go forward what was originally planned in Prototype with the reworks of Fragments. I had a theory that Ayaka was actually Reborn/Human Solomon before Fragments linked her and Manaka with Camelot stuff because her relief-heirloom was a ring (or was something could unleash her power) and she had some secret sealed, and her eyes were special for some reason.

>>22618011
Good thing I don't care about FGO's retarded lore.

>>22618173
Guys, PLEASE, I need an answer.

>>22618663
Read them and find out yourself

>>22618679
NO

>>22617799
They post updates regularly, nothing has been released because this time of year, nobody really does anything.

>>22617874
>LB5 retconned them.
So a timeline inside a timeline retconned Notes, Mahoyo, Tsukihime and interestingly enough, Extra/Extella.
Not going against your assertion, just making an observation here.
>>22618114
>Aoko also couldn't have been able to do shit if wasn't for her grandfather leaving her stuff to her.
So could be said about all Magi. Like Wodime.
I mean, you said:
>He never got hit by that because he has a backup of a thousand years old bloodline and the support of the three factions in the Clocktower.
Actually, he even got more help than Aoko.

>>22618786
He's talking about this >>22617909
Which is now the backstory of Gaia herself except the Sefar thing because I'm not sure if it's the same "titan" word.

>>22617909
Interesting because it means what the Sefar did was target and kill the invaders in the first place. She let the Sumerian go and they weren't former Titan Superweapons before getting BTFO by humanity, of course.

Humanity can really brainwash everyone. We're the dense harem MC of the species of the universe.

I have Stockholm syndrome for type-moon
I hate Nasu but I just can't stop talking about him

>>22619051
You're a battered wife.

I read through what I could stomach of LB5 and I'm 95% sure all the titan stuff and Kirsch reprogramming the gods is just made up reddit garbage. The only things I can confirm is that the greek gods really are robots and that poseidon had terraforming capabilities. If you search for "アトランティス ガイア FGO" on google you get 1 result and it doesn't relate at all. I can't even find one snippet of dialogue talking about titans. So unless I skipped over both parts in an attempt to read as little mobage writing as possible AND the nips are using obscure terms to talk about it rather than common ones it's just not true at all.

>>22618760
Ah, understandable.
thx for the info.

Pictures of Fate unplublished material are available.
https://ngabbs.com/read.php?tid=19717388&page=e&rand=88

I invite all here to play Shinza Banshou series and Silverio Saga. The one who is famous by having Dies Irae and another parent one from the same publisher.
They are not that alike with Fate or Tsukihime, it is more slice of life than I could actually stand, but it has some genre elements that fill the hole Nasu made, there is a general about it.
The only bad side is that the author is actually trying to make his FGO now, although he actually failed his first try.
I would say that it would still be a nice investment because FGO won't be an easy thing to beat and we can also expect this new try to fail again.

>>22619292
Shinza has way too many fillers fights and everything comes down to who is the most chuuni of all the chuunis. The final to KKK is also absolute dogshit.

>>22619331
Any better options? I am very open minded at the moment.

>>22619342
No, you're just fucked. The authour of deepone kept going on long rants about how much FSN inspired him, but then the game releases full price, is short, ends with a "plz buy the sequel" message and is generally meh. There will never be a sequel because it actually caused a minor shitstorm.

>>22619354
What the fuck are you on about? Sounds like the incoherent ramblings of a comatose person.

>>22619283
Interesting stuff. I like how Proto Shielder actually had an interesting looking design and not fap bait Mash. Sadly I can't read any of the story/plot section, so I'll have to hope someone translates that someday. From the storyboards, it looks much more intriguing then what the got for Deen/stay night.

>>22619363
If only there was some sort of visual novel database or search engine you could use to look up what is obviously the name of the game.

>>22617572
>>22618042
Nasu's exact words specified a magic battle. There's nothing preventing Aoko from running up to Medea and kicking her ala Rin or what she did in Mahoyo.
>>22618685
Yes.

>>22619379
If you only this general wasn't related to shitty games no one knows about.

>>22617572
In a battle of magecraft, not including melee and not including True Magic.
Nasu's point is that no modern magus can defeat an AoG magus in a magecraft battle.
HSDW is simply too strong.

>>22618042
Read the actual quote better.

>>22618005
No, his stuff is made irrelevant by True Magic.

>>22619283
I'm too lazy to read it thoroughly, but it sounds like a pile of steaming shit. Some random things my eyes happened upon while skimming through it:

>Shielder was a genderbent Galahad (or a human channeling Galahad's spirit?) nicknamed Tachie, with a silent pacifistic yet no-nonsense personality
>her old master was named Earnest Gravehill, who had a Shiki-esque personality
>Shielder has a grudge against Saber, and an unfounded one against Shirou for surviving the Fuyuki disaster
>Sakura's past was retconned by having Zouken die in the 4th war, and Shinji is the real Matou heir and Rider's real master
>Shinji asks Shirou to protect Sakura for him, but then Caster makes an agreement with Shinji to have Sakura stay with Shirou so she can become Saber's master
>Sakura joins Saber and Rin as Shirou's ally, not knowing she's under Caster's control
>various aspects from different routes are included, such as Saber vs Berserker and Kuzuki being revealed as Caster's master
>Ilya is suspicious of Sakura for being a Matou after Berserker is defeated and she joins Shirou, saying it doesn't matter if she never received training in magic as long as she has magical circuits
>while they're discussing how to deal with Caster, Sakura asks to talk with Saber in private, then gets controlled into using Rule Breaker on Saber
>Shielder is on Caster's side
>Saber vs Shielder, Shirou vs Caster
>Shirou defeats Caster, but it was a fake, and the real one goes after Rin
>BONDAGE SAKURA (Nasu's explanation for why he came up with it is that Caster likes dressing little girls in frilly dresses and girls with big breasts in villainess-esque outfits)
>Rin saves Sakura from becoming Caster's sacrifice, but then Caster attacks her
>Archer appears and saves her like he does in UBW, having survived the Berserker fight
>Archer defeats Caster like Shirou defeats Saber in Sparks Liner High
>Saber vs Shielder gets interrupted by Gilgamesh appearing and killing Shielder anti-climactically
>rest of the story follows the Fate route

>>22619640
So, it is basically DEEN anime with shielder and some chenges/additions.
Still a better story than FGO.

>>22619640
>Sakura asks to talk with Saber in private, then gets controlled into using Rule Breaker on Saber
Sasuga Instinct A-sama.

>>22582430
Grand Rider when?

>>22619806
never
he's probably the biggest historical figure that Nasu is avoiding
and he'd end up as some genderbent onahole in fgo anyway

>>22619371
>Proto Shielder actually had an interesting looking design and not fap bait Mash
You're kidding, right? It's just as much fapbait if not even worse because it's a leotard with no armor plating in sight. She's basically wearing a prototype of Scatach's outfit.

>>22619844
>if not even worse because it's a leotard with no armor plating in sight. She's basically wearing a prototype of Scatach's outfit.
You don't know if thats a leotard. You're getting a bout of amnesia if you think thats close to Scathach, there's barely any fishnet all over her skin that doesn't cover anything. There's a good ratio of showing nothing and showing skin here.
Her boobs are also not unrealistically oversized, and they also fit her armor normally, and not have a breastplace that's literally just a steel shaped bra.
Aside from that, her armor isn't just generic black mobile game armor that doesn't cover shit and leaves pure skin exposed. The colors and the gradiant have much more depth then Mash's, and the suit itself has an interesting twisting pattern.

I mean, it could be worse.

>>22619640
It does sound like shit. Thankfully it didn't make final cut.

>>22619640
It does sound kinda iffy, but I actually prefer how much more action there is by comparison to the Fate route we got.

>>22611559
It's the best one I've seen in a while. Nobody who is "getting into" the series cares about the 56 others irrelevant, most of the time, garbage spin offs
>but muh Extra verse
Absolute trash, only CCC gil route is worth shit.
>but muh Tsukihime and muh Mahoyo aren't expanded upon
It's a fate chart so Tsuki is irrelevant and would only bloats the thing. Mahoyo is Nasu's best work but requires americans to learn more than one language so that eleminates a good chunk of english speakers, also you yourself didn't read it so stfu.
The guy who made this is a better fan than mot of retards on this site, also fuck fgo, fuck you and most importantly, OP is a faggot so fuck him to.

>>22620822
>Nobody who is "getting into" the series cares about the 56 others irrelevant, most of the time, garbage spin offs
And yet it includes Case Files.

>>22620822
OP here, thank you for having the right opinions.
I suppose I'm a faggot.

>>22620958
Case Files is good faggot.

>>22619640
>(Nasu's explanation for why he came up with it is that Caster likes dressing little girls in frilly dresses and girls with big breasts in villainess-esque outfits)
Absolutely fucking based.

Anyway overall this seems like a shitty version of the Fate route, it's interesting to see the basis for a lot of the DEEN anime here.
However, this is at least still a lot better than FGO and its version of Mashu.

I'd also love to get Ernest Gravehill somewhere again, I'm a sucker for Shiki-esque personalities.

>>22620822
Nobody who is getting into the series cares about autistic sperging. It somehow manages to include the most irrelevant information yet does nothing to make it sound appealing, like it was written by some ESL or some shit. El Melloi is also a galaxy brain addition especially given how lacking the anime is and >reading fan TL of a LN instead of raws.

Don't give a shit about the other things "not being included", they're mentioned anyway and so is FGO.

>>22624873
>Nobody who is getting into the series cares about autistic sperging
What?
>It somehow manages to include the most irrelevant information
What irrelevant informations?
> does nothing to make it sound appealing,
How so?
>like it was written by some ESL
Point out glaring mistakes or really stitlted sentences.
>given how lacking the anime is
It doesn't even remotely mention the anime, quite the contrary, it has an LN illustration and has "[written] by" in the description
>reading fan TL of a LN instead of raws
Every single Nasu works beside Fgo and Extella are fan TLs.

Your post is disgustingly sad and so is your existence, I suggest you end it, worm.

>>22624873
>>reading fan TL of a LN instead of raws.
How much you wanna bet this guy either:
1. Didn't read the raws, read the fan TL, and is trying to pass off as knowing JP so he feels included.
2. Read the raws, never touched the fan TL so he doesn't know how good it is or not (Bonus: Thinks TLs are inherently trash).

>>22624910
Kek did you make the chart? No need to suck the creator's cock that much. Defending mediocrity gets you nothing.

Noone would explain things like the chart did if this was real life. Only an autist would throw around things like "Holy Grail War" and "Servant" with no explanation and expect anyone to give a single fuck. It pulls out "master" out of nowhere expecting you to know what the fuck it is. Avenger means nothing to anyone who doesn't know the existing classes.

>Then google it
Then noone would need the chart in the first place.

Moving on, who the fuck cares about where things were ported? Why bother listing the F/Z volumes? Who cares about Urobuchi's "love and respect" when whoever's reading is going off of no background knowledge of FSN?

Noone's going to give a shit about Waver if they hadn't gotten through Zero already.

If you don't know why this sounds like it's written by an ESL you need to get yourself checked.


>>22624911
Fan TLs are fine when it's a game or a manga, anime, whatever the fuck because there's at least other elements holding it in place. When it's 100 text you're completely at the mercy of the translator.

>Kek did you make the chart? No need to suck the creator's cock that much. Defending mediocrity gets you nothing.
Lmao, the ego. I'm shitting on you because you're retarted, that's really it.
>. Only an autist would throw around things like "Holy Grail War" blablabla
What am I even reading, are you fighting the existence of synopsis? I'm losing braincells reading your shit.
>Moving on, who the fuck cares about where things were ported?
That's it, that's what sent you into a frenzy? The mentions of the different platforms the game being dicussed is on? Peak autism
> were ported
LMAO, "m-muh ESL" but can't differentiate between were and where. Really, just off yourself, this is just too pathetic.
>Why bother listing the F/Z volumes?
I give up, you're either a commited psychopath who somehow found a computer or baiting at that point.
>If you don't know why this sounds like it's written by an ESL you need to get yourself checked
YOUR post reeks of ESLism and reddit autism so that's pretty fucking ironic.

>>22625393
I don't think you know what synopsis means.

>>22625393
You might be the one who can't distinguish "where" and "were".

>Fate exists
>turns everything to shit
Why even bother?