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A thread for the discussion of Dies irae, Kajiri Kamui Kagura, Pantheon and other associated titles belonging to the Shinza Banshou setting, written by Takashi Masada.

>Masada's official Twitter
https://twitter.com/masada_takashi

Dies irae Song to the Witch fully translated: https://www.stuffiliketodo.net/work/dies_irae_song_to_the_witch_2781

>Avesta of Black and White
https://enty.jp/en/avestan (JP, everything after the prologue behind paywall)
Summaries: https://pastebin.com/r8bi3mrq

>Dies irae
Getting Started: https://pastebin.com/03KfVLZZ
Official Website: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_portal/
VNDB: https://vndb.org/v548
Interview with Kaziklu Bey: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_kaziklubey/
Steam Page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/644540/Dies_irae_Amantes_amentes/ (>buying from steam)
Mangagamer: https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1041 (>buying from mangagamer)
Other Resources: https://pastebin.com/27WTzqYV
Random TL's and misconceptions: https://pastebin.com/9XgEAwTU

>Dies irae Pantheon
Official Website: http://dies-p.net/index.html
Website Translation: https://pastebin.com/g7rbqkTM

>Kajiri Kamui Kagura
Official website: http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/kajirikamuikagura/index.html
VNDB: https://vndb.org/v5844

>Other light titles
Senshinkan: https://vndb.org/v12455
Bansenjin Torrent: https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/view/1705703
Paradise Lost: https://vndb.org/v1951
PL Torrent: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2577220

Previous thread: >>22335267

>> No.22464857

Cullatelo di zibello

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Bros I didn't understand Ikabey's ending

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Okay, I know we already had this conversation and I don't want to seem like a shitposter, but now I'm completely lost on what the fuck kinda of aesthetic Masada and G are going for.
We have classic fantasy knights, Death Stars, space pirate cowboys and now freaking middle east/india desgins...in a supposed techno-magic setting. I'm really confused.

>> No.22465363

>>22465343
Ahura Mazda is sci-fi zoroastrianism in medieval fantasy in an universal scale setting.
You really thought every planets in the universe were technologically equal?

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>>22465343
It's Spelljammer: Extra Chuuni edition.
I love it.

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Wow, the demon kings are making an early entrance apparently.
"Pray, wish, extol your miracles. I'm the one who decides how long you live"
Kaikhosru
Height 190cm Weight: 85kg
One of the Seven Demon Kings who rule within this world. He is the 6th Demon King under the Wahman Yast's ranking. Whilst he is extremely powerful, he hates waste. As such he finds more meaning in exploitation rather than pure slaughter
>>22465343
When it comes to the demon kings? Gods I assume. I actually quite like Kaikhosru's design, it's very cool.

>> No.22465397

>>22465363
*Sci-fi-fantasy zoroastrianism in an universal scale settings.

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>>22465363
>>22465389
Hum, fair point. The stark contrast between the different character designs just seems really jarring to me, even if justified. I imagine them all on screen and the first thing that comes to mind is fgo where you get shit like that on and it's.. yeah
But I really like most of the indivudal character desgin, save for maybe not!Shirou, I think it's the colour.

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>>22465401
At least, there is a reason why the characters design of Avesta are so varied since the scale of the story is the whole universe and not a single planet like in FGO.

>> No.22465450

>>22465401
I don't really mind it, especially if it's intentional due to different regions of the setting having inspiration from different cultures.
What the fuck is up with Cu in your pic? He does not look okay.

>> No.22465470

>>22465450
Holy shit yeah,looks like he had six surgeries dones to him in row.
But I dunno, I grabbed a random pic on google image, I don't think it's even fgo.

>> No.22465471

>>22465401
To be fair Kaikhosru is the first person from the side of evil that we've seen, I'd imagine their designs would be far more different than the Ashawan and different amongst each other as well. We've seen forge daddy but we haven't seen his human/personification form.
From the previous translations we've gotten Kaikhosru is tyrant and his design sure as hell looks like one and i for one think it's pretty fucking cool

>> No.22465488

>>22465389
looks awful

>> No.22465497

>>22465389
>One of the Seven Demon Kings who rule within this world. He is the 6th Demon King under the Wahman Yast's ranking. Whilst he is extremely powerful, he hates waste. As such he finds more meaning in exploitation rather than pure slaughter
Sorry half asleep and made a mistake
>Whilst he is extremely powerful, he hates waste
He is extremely avaricious and hates waste

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>>22465430
Ren should have stuck with the scarf look, though maybe it's just me being allergic to designs that show too much skin. Same with Marie's underboob.

>> No.22465552

>>22465533
He still has it in casual. Also, him having new look probably has some plot relevance.

>> No.22465730

Post chapter please anons.

>> No.22465748

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1197841154571550720
Class 1 Daevas are as powerful as the 3 Battalion Commanders and Kaikhosru has 18 above them.

>> No.22465752

>>22465748
Is that just raw power or does it include the OP reality-warping shit too?

>> No.22465754

>>22465752
Masada just said that.

>> No.22465766

>>22465752
Yeah, LDO strengths are hoax abilites and soul invincibility. Meaning that if it wasn't rectonned even a demon king kill couldn't even harm Spinne if doesn't have a way to damage the soul directly..

>> No.22465772

>>22465754
I mean he only mentions "strength" which is a pretty vague concept. Stuff like Shreiber and Machina's abilities seem hard to quantify.

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>>22465752
I'd assume just raw power rather than op reality warping shit since they were described as having power equivalent to some natural disaster. One punch from Machina's Ber'iah and they'd all go out, Demon Kings most likely included too.
>>22465748
His 18 mistresses are all First Class Daevas not above them.

>> No.22465787

>>22465777
I'd like to see which is stronger, Commandments&Star Spirit's blessings vs Briah.

>> No.22465807

>>22465787
I don't know man. Ber'iah's are literally small scale emanations which completely bend reality, seems really hard to compete against. Though we haven't seen too many Commandments or Star Spirit's blessings, but Snek's magic shit seems to be way more bullshity.

>> No.22465821

>>22465787
I'd say the Briah wins out when there's a contradictory effect (ie even "immortal as long as he never dodges" dude wouldn't be able to tank an proper punch from Machina.)
Commandments probably have a wider range of effects/more powerful effects due to there being a drawback though.

>> No.22465849

>>22465777
>His 18 mistresses are all First Class Daevas not above them.

First Class and above.

>>22465766
In a setting where there are numerous high-level warriors with their own magic hax and magic equipment, I'm sure quite a number of them can at the very least find a way to hurt lower LDO members who had the luxury of having very few outside enemies that can fight them directly.

>>22465807
All we've heard of Commandments are already sheer magic that bend and break accepted reality and Vohu Manah's feathers operate on a conceptual level.

The difference here is we don't hear some kind of magic invincibility of why these they aren't getting killed by application of massive firepower of a mundane army unlike the LDO. There's no need to, because the the Yazata and the Daeva -are- the army with the massive firepower of their sides.

>> No.22466816

Are Habaki and his waifu still sensories&apoptosis of the Tumor or was that voided by its reincarnation into a cute tree?

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>>22466816
I love that family tree

>> No.22476069

Lads...

>> No.22476078

>>22476069
?

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A little summary by Cosmic Eagle.

Chapter takes place at the Star of the Dragon Carcass, Zahak. It's a massive desert wasteland. The world largely consists of four sprawling continents seperated by a sea that wove its way between them. Viewed from space, Zahak resembled little more than a mud ball. It would have been hard to believe that just 200 years prior, this was a verdant, green world.

What happened there was similar to the story of the goose that lays golden eggs. Being only able to lay one golden egg a day, the goose was killed by a greedy and foolish man to see if more eggs were inside.

The Star Spirit that was the source of the planet's blessings had been murdered and devoured by a man who wanted to monopolize the world's wealth and power. In other words, he had killed and taken the Star Spirit's place and in the process, plunged the entire world into utter desolation.

The man who did this, is Kaikhosru

Kaikhosru's behaviour would be suicidal for any natural born Star Spirit since it is essentially killing their own world. However since he is an usurper, Zahak is to him, like a hermit crab's shell. It is all just resources to be expended. Once it's all used up, he'll just move on to subjugate another world. He's closer to a pirate or bandit in that sense. For 200 years, he plundered Zahak into the wasteland that it is today. Zahak itself was once known as the world blessed by a celestial dragon of gold but now it is a world ruined by an evil dragon of greed

Zahak itself is a hellish place. Across the deserts, lizards large enough to swallow horses whole and scorpion like bugs fought and devoured each other while the planet's ability to support life is already exhausted. Raptor flocks circle in the air looking for carrion. The human inhabitants simply wait for death to come and are so overcome by starvation they even clash with these creatures for food. On top of that, even what few crops they had were forfeited as taxes and Kaikhosru does not forgive not paying them. Those who flee the settled areas face death in the desert either by starvation, eatrn by beasts, or killed by the troops of their oppressor. The military, economy and administration of the world are all Draegvant. While there were no Daeva amongst the common soldiery and lower class, the cruelty in their lives would give pause to any Ashavan. Rape, killing of children and stealing food are their daily activities while they are ruled only by hatred of Ashavan and fear of Kaikhosru. The slaughter of those fleeing Kaikhosru are like a rain of blood while the soldiers chant Kaikhosru's name.

>> No.22477397

However, even as they are cut down, the refugees do not stop walking. Their goal is their final hope of salvation, one of the 18 oases of Zahak, the quartz palace of Arzang. It was located 100 Km away from where the slaughter of the refugees was occuring and it was a clear lake enclosed by a city in concentric rings and at its center, towering over everything else with its multiple tiers brilliantly shining against the water, was the largest city on Zahak. This was Arzang itself. As all goods plundered from the surrounding settlements were gathered at Arzang, all refugees naturally flocked to it. There was after all, no other source of food left.

Unfortunately, Arzang was no better than elsewhere. While outwardly it looked amazing once away from the main avenues, the corpses of the city's inhabitants who had died from starvation were piled like mountains. They were in no better shape than the refugees outside and survivors had to engage in sanitary work, stripping the dead of their clothes and taking them in carts to be dumped outside in order to earn the bare minimum of food to survive. If they were sighted on the way by a government official, they would be executed for the crime of ruining the city's beauty. Even mourning the dead was forbidden. The Ashavan were constantly oppressed by the Draegvant who indulged in feasting and excess.

At the highest point in the city is an open space where a small village could fit nicely. The only thing there is a bath house. What filled it wasn't water but top grade sake. In charge of this place is a girl who appeared to be 17 or 18 years old. Her name is Nadia and she is Kaikhosru's 17th favored concubine. She is the princess of quartz who rules over Arzang. To her, the wine (implied to look suspiciously like the blood harvested from inhabitants of nearby villages) is merely a foot bath and is thus replaced every day. She treasures only the special wine she receives from her lord.

Each of the 18 oases are vitally important to a Star Spirit like Kaikhosru. They are where he leeches the planet's blessings from. Thus the overseeing of each oasis he entrusts to his most beloved concubines. Nadia is ranked 17th meaning she is one of the lower ranked concubines. She is relatively young, having been a Favored Concubine for only 30 years. Not surprisingly, she thinks herself superior to the senior concubines from beauty to evilness and that Kaikhosru would raise her up even more.

But Kaikhosru is late for his visit for some time now. And Nadia had become over confident. As her lust and desire became greatly inflamed in her impatience however, Kaikhosru's voice rings out. Speaking through an avatar in the form of a crystal dragon he condemns her turning her and the entire city into crystal and gems. She had let slip her plans to kill off any of her potential competitors as she had thought a new Concubine had been inducted. And on top of that, she had slaughtered too excessively. The lives of every being on this world are his property and Kaikhosru does not forgive needless squandering of his property especially when he himself has yet to squeeze them dry.

>> No.22477404

The scene turns to Quinn and co. Everyone is on edge due to Zahak's gloomy atmosphere from being literally a dead and barren world. Ferdows and Samrukh are starting to bicker. This is natural since no Yazata can look at what happened to Zahak and not feel rage. They had managed to find some allies amongst the locals and are now in a cramped caravan

Zurvan is part of the force and everyone is glad they don't have to be in the same horse carriage as him. He literally free loads off everyone else, for example, when teleporting, it is sufficient that one person expends their feather while the rest hold on to them. Generally this is the highest ranking person, Zurvan in this case, so that the rest do not have to waste their feathers as they have less. But Zurvan did not do that and instead kept ordering Quinn to do it (lol) while talking crap like "this is what zako like you all are meant for" (even more lol). They even consider him worse than Magsarion because while Magsarion is a loner, Zurvan is flat out toxic to the team.

As for Magsarion, since he has yet to replenish his feathers, and would join up with them later instead. Nobody's obviously looking forward to that moment.

They discuss their plans for taking down Kaikhosru. They cannot believe that Suirios seriously sent such a small force here with the intention of directly facing Kaikhosru head on and thus something else was up. Turns out, as Zurvan later telepathically briefs Quinn to avoid Kaikhosru eavesdropping since as a Star Spirit, the entire planet is his domain, that neither Magsarion nor Zurvan is the key player here. It is someone who had infiltrated the planet 5 years earlier. Quinn and co were to act as decoys so that the infiltrator isn't detected. This person is Alma, the only survivor left of the Khvarenah battle 20 years ago. Her kill count is comparable to Zurvan's and Magsarion's. While it isn't as high as theirs, she has taken down more class 1 Daeva than anyone else.

The plan was for Alma to become a new concubine of Kaikhosru using her ability to confound Avesta and assassinate him

>> No.22477444

>>22477404
So we now know that at least one person can somehow confound avesta...

>> No.22477469

If only I could actually read moon.

>> No.22479245

In a certain sense, Muzan is Snek's granddad. How does he feel about his grandson being a degenerate cuckold who gets his rocks off to being cucked by his great-grandson?

>> No.22479778

>Pantheon site is still up
kek

>> No.22479782

>>22479778
>no bgm and the site's images are broken
Damn

>> No.22479785

>>22479782
I can see them just fine desu

>> No.22479802

>>22479785
I don't know if you remember but the main image used to be somewhat animated with sakura petals and the world section used to have a unique background which would change as you scrolled through the various heavens, but its all white now.

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>>22479802
again idk what the deal is but I still see the animated petals and the changing backgrounds.

>> No.22479979

>>22479827
Must just be me then. I can't even listen to the voice lines of the characters on the site.

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>>22465748
>Class 1 Daevas are as powerful as the 3 Battalion Commanders
>Kaikhosru has 18 above them
I thought that there'd be some power inflation ever since I saw that Masada placed Pan-kun on the same tier as the three commanders
hope shit gets even crazier with the demon kings and their heirs. plus whatever the fuck went down in the third heaven with snek and his goons

>> No.22480677

>>22480144
His harem is at minimum class 1. Not all of them are going to be special class.

It's hard for Pan-kun to not be so high up considering the party he has to go with and what power he needs to command over for plot.

>> No.22481981

>>22480144
He has a blade folded a quintillion times, what'd you expect?

>> No.22484184

do we have any idea how old Magsarion might be?

>> No.22484213

>>22484184
I think he's around 26 at the current point of the story. Quinn looked through Nahid's memory and Magsarion was the same age as Leley, the little girl that he did in during the first chapter.

>> No.22484840

>>22481981
What?? His sword is folded a quintillion times? Source?

>> No.22484919

>>22484840
Dude....

>> No.22484993

>>22484840
My bad, after verification it was actually only a quadrillion times. Japanese is hard.

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>>22463694
Leave Reinhard to me.

>> No.22485662

>>22465766
But anon, Spinne is far stronger than any other character. There is no way Rot Spinne AKA "All and Everything" could be harmed by them.

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>>22485658
No Comrade Ungern, this inferior Gestapo must suffer defeat under the NKVD. The Bloody Dwarf will destroy him.

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>>22485658
>>22485675
Totally-not-a-Mercurius-sensory Rasputin here. Now isn't the right time to fight the LDO. You will retreat for now.

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>>22463694
I want to rape Reinhard.
He makes Mein hard.
I want to stick my finger tips.
Deep into his womanly wide hips.
I want to violate the Butcher of Prague.
I will do it in the style of a dog.
I want to rape Reinhard Heydrich.
With German Sausage, Snake and Dick

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>>22465772
>Machina

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>>22463694
Ren Fuji is delaying Pantheon because he doesn't want anything disrupting his nichijou. No more alternative timelines or having to spend millennia unable to un-fuck the world because Hajun. His desire for his nichijou has started to warp reality in real life.

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>>22463694
Pantheon Scenario
>Ren reads Masada's twitter and realizes he's not getting his nichijou
>Ren snaps & develops the craving “Fuck everything, I want my goddamn Nichijou”
>the universe he writes is a SoL for everyone there
>Ren is the unfortunate harem protagonist, the harem members being the girls with routes + Rusalka
>Mercurius is the creepy NEET stalking Marie
>the LDO are some sort of occult club at school Reinhard founded at Mercurius’ advice
>Hajun is unintentionally some delinquent gang leader, his followers borderline worshiping him no matter how many times he tells them to fuck off and leave him alone
>Mithra is a slutty teacher who inexplicably still has a job after numerous allegations of molesting her students
>Muzan is the most remorseless & Judge Dredd cop in the universe who somehow hasn’t been kicked out for excessive violence
>Satanel is the perfectionist student who nearly hanged himself that one time he got 99/100 on a minor quiz
>The other gods are actually aware but most are too afraid to do anything, aware that disrupting Ren’s Nichijou will result in even deeper cravings, increasing Ren’s power even further
>Their only hope is Shirou, someone too naturally part of Ren's Nichijou for him to destroy, who has gone borderline insane from boredom
>It's up to the player to assist Shirou in destroying Ren's nichijou to restore the universe
>the bosses are the vast majority of cast members would genuinely love a peaceful life
>Trifa who peacefully operates his church/orphanage/daycare with Lisa
>Beatrice and Kai, sickeningly sweet loving couple making out in public
>Kei, who took the opportunity to learn arithmetic
>Rusalka, who has a route this time
>Machina, far less suicidal than before now that he doesn't have to deal with Reinhard
>Kasumi, who's actually relevant given her importance in Ren's nichijou
>Bonus Boss: "Der Spinne" - Friendly Neighborhood German Spider-Man

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>>22463694
Many hate Mercurius because Mercurius wants to die. Mercurius' influence on the world creates a world that actively seeks his death. His apoptosis loves all and everything for a reason.

>> No.22486461

>>22465748
Reinhard can yawn and buff Wilheim to Schreiber levels.

>> No.22486563

>>22465533
Rens Throne God design should just been the casual clothes and scarf in your pic. Would've looked max chuuni.

>> No.22486568

>>22486563
But anon, we all know they're saving his casual clothes for the Nichijou-Ren event.

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Too bland for a God, that or his SS uniform would have been better but Snek and Kemono-dono are already like that.

>> No.22486877

>>22486720
Are there some new arts with Snek and Reinhard there?

>> No.22486902

>>22486720
Curious as to why his color scheme shifted to blue. To oppose Yato's desgin maybe.

>> No.22487265

>>22486720
>be Ren
>no nichijou
>no normal clothes either
>have to work with dipshits you wish you never have to deal with along with new dipshits

>> No.22487368

>>22487265
Having Marie makes up for it.

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>>22487265
>tfw you thought you were free from a piece of shit pervert then you realised you're still a puppet for this smug bitch like the others.

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>>22486295
>Ren's ideal nichijou ends up being nothing like his normal
>i.e. he desires Marie in his everyday life but Marie is arguably the embodiment of abnormal things happening in his life
>Ren's subconsciously knows it's not his real nichijou, causing gradually increased cravings anyway

>> No.22488067

>>22487776
>snek 2.0
>he pimps out Marie to Pan-kun

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>>22485658
>>22485675
>>22485703
Ride the tiger, my fellow not-sensories.

>> No.22490076

>>22479802
It was like that for me like a week ago too but all of a sudden it works now.

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>>22485703
This. It's time for the Allied LDO to show these Nazis how to really fight.

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>>22490846
>implying pic related won't do the job

>> No.22491100

>>22491086
I miss him

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>>22463694

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