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EditAnon here, just wanted to say that even with the cleaned up Magsarion crop, it doesn't look good enough. When and if we get better quality pics of Magsarion, I'll do it again.

Big thanks to the Anon who gave me feedback last thread!

https://twitter.com/BigShine000/status/1189156517330604032

>>22335893
why is Ren so big

>>22335893
https://twitter.com/Flavius_dramus/status/1183390532359208963

>>22335893
>>22336191

Magsarion in a nutshell

So, we all agree that Nadare could be Mithra’s sensory? And as Muzan switches sides, does that mean he also gets stronger, since he’s only average while on the side of good?

Muzan ain't average.. isn't he like their top heavy hitter??

>>22338672
He's definitely not normal, but apparently he's not one of their best in terms of martial prowess at this point ? His fighting achievements are beyond his supposed ability though.

It's pretty in line with what Kouha says in Saosyant, that there were many stronger fighters both among the Yazata and Daevas, but he can't be topped in sheer MADMAN levels.

>>22338477
I don't think Muzan would go through tentsui if he hasn't already at an earlier point. We don't know what -really- causes it yet, but I doubt Muzan's methods alone would do it.

Anyway since he's already a veteran Yazata on the side of Good, if he flips to Evil he'd probably just go down in strength from a warrior to a weakling.

>>22337548
How autistic is he compared to the LDO?

Hmm i had thought that Muzan's average-ness was a reference to his swordsmanship not his overall combat abilities. I don't have all of Pantheon prologue translated unfortunately :((

>>22339148
According to Masada, the first and second throne bunch make the LDO look like they have common sense

>>22339172
>I don't have all of Pantheon prologue translated unfortunately :((

lol eops.

>>22339172
His profile from Avesta describes his combat prowess as "average" but he holds the greatest achievements among Wahman Yast. By the time he reaches the Throne, he has become the embodiment of "martial might" and was still "eternally undefeated" by the time of Pantheon.

Edit anon whenever they decide to reveal Sirius' design, I'd like you to do a boomer edit with a monster can.

>>22339546
Sure. I'll give it a shot at least.

>>22341863
>Yeah... in six Heavens.

By the way, here's the lore update we missed, from the week before the 2nd chapter came out
https://pastebin.com/jJ0rP8aX
Credits to trexalfa from spacebattles. I'm gonna put together a pastebin with all the summaries/lore explanations we've gotten so far at some point, and keep it updated.

>>22335893

Second one in a short time period. Apparently this was also a request. Fess up which one of you have been commissioning these Marie porn

>>22343250
>implying it's not Masada himself putting the crowfunding money to good use

>>22342872
Nice, I was going to ask if someone was going to compile the summaries. Thanks Anon!

Is the possibility of Pantheon getting released as VNs/LNs higher than the possibility of Tsukihime Remake getting released?

What exactly is a sensory?

A Hadou God's sense of touch(fingers). Because their existence is too vast to perceive and interact with stuff

>>22344688
>Because their existence is too vast to perceive and interact with stuff
Isn’t it because they ARE the universe once they become a throne god, so they can’t interact with their own ‘organs’?

>>22344946
Yes..

Oh yeah, it's Masada's birthday. Forgot that freak was born on halloween.

>>22345351
>that freak was born on halloween
Kek

>>22344544
Have you read anything about the New Gods from DC? It's basically the same concept. Hadou Gods' asses are too big for the universe once they ascend to become the godheads (as they basically become 'everything'), so to 'feel' the world, they can create 'avatars' that fit the lower realm. The sensories may be semi-directly controlled puppets (like Karl Kraft) or be their own distinct individual with no awareness that they are the puppet of a god (like Habaki).

MUZANMUKI

>>22343250
We all know that Karl Kraft is the one fapping behind all this degeneracy. It's all part of his opera.

>>22345829
>We all know that Karl Kraft is the one fapping behind all this degeneracy.
Is degeneracy an inevitable product of immortality?

>>22345954
It is when you were born into salt world.

>>22344384
They just announced progress on Tsukhime so Pantheon is even less.

>>22347478
Great

Someone should make a "Virgin Hajun vs CHAD Muzan" edit.

>>22349803
i would have asked for a virgin reinhard vs chad muzan edit but now i'm inclined to believe that the gay lion would fuck his shit up

>>22349835
>now i'm inclined to believe that the gay lion would fuck his shit up
Because Taikyoku?

Meet Varhām, Magsarion's big bro, he was a good brother.

>>22351010
He looks cool

Can a person have multiple commandments? .

>>22351111
Magsarion has three.

>>22351111
I'm pretty sure it was stated Muzan does, or maybe it was one of the demon kings.

>>22351111
Magasarion has 3 Commandments.

So does Lisa fucking Cain mean Lisa was fucking Kai thinking she was Beatrice except he's ALSO Beatrice??

Whaman Yast (Domain of the Holy King)
The heroes of Good’s headquarters, also the name of their organisation. The planet where the star spirit Vohu Mannah took root and is filled with his blessing, a domain only for the Ashwan where the Dragvant do not exist
The only intelligent life are humans, however because of their respect for order, they will not commit any acts that would destroy nature. As such their way of living is reminiscent of medieval times.
Under their leader, the holy king, they are united by the great cause of defeating evil, as such internal discord will not occur. It’s something of a special feature. However, after their defeat 20 years ago, a growing shadow can be seen. The rise of a maverick such as Magsarion and the conflict between those who approve of him and those who critique him. As well the way in which the current Holy King, Sirius, does not allow others to get close to him. There are many reasons for concern.

Vahram
Magsarion’s older brother and a man praised as being a hero amongst heroes. His date of death was 27 years old. A legendary existence who boasts the great feat of defeating 3 Demon Kings when there had been no example even within the history of the Wahman Yast. Whilst he lost his life in the battle against Khvarenah 20 years ago, his valiant efforts were also the sole reason why the Wahman Yast wasn’t destroyed.
Khvarenah felt a sort fear towards him, because of this he wishes to learn what a miracle is and gave birth to Quinn.
He possessed a broadminded personality and a one-track mind. A man who laughed and cried more than anyone. Frankly put it was as if he were a mischievous child who simply grew larger, that was the sort of personality he possessed. However, strangely people would be drawn around him. He possessed that sort of charisma. Embodying that, he seems to have held a unique commandment, though the particulars are unclear. Even after his death, many people still idolize him, they desire the birth of a new hero who will inherit his dying wish. As his older brother, he loved Magsarion more than anyone, understood him better than anyone and was concerned about his future more than anyone.

The Seven Demon Kings
The leaders of the Daevas and the 7 absolute evils
As a tendency there tend to be a great number of malevolent star spirits, currently there are three: Khvarenah. Mashyana and Kaikhosru
Because of their individual peculiarities and past deeds, the Wahman Yast have given them both a rank and a nickname. The following:
The First Demon King, the Workshop of Destruction, Khavernah
The Second Demon King, The Destroyer of Worlds, Nadare
The Third Demon King, The Rampageous Locus Bafravan
The Fourth Demon King, The Princess of Murder, Frederica
The Fifth Demon King, The Unclean and Immobile, Mashyana (does she possess the “never dodge a attack” commandment which Mithra said was one of the greatest abilities across all thrones?)
The Sixth Demon King, The Avaricious starved Dragon, Kaikhosru
The Seventh Demon King, Wicked Karma*, Aka Manah
However, within the Demon Kings, there is no clear ranking. Their relationship is similar to siblings
Whilst you can say that they are on good terms, to them expressing their deep affection includes killing one another, you could also say that it’s an extremely dangerous relationship.

*This one was real hard for me to put into English. The original was 邪戒廻向, 邪戒 could be read as just evil commandment however 廻向 refers to pattidana, the transfers of merits within buddhism. Where an individual's religious merits which stem from good deeds is transferred to deceased relatives, gods and all sentient beings. So I just settled for wicked karma even then im not 100%

>>22351257
What?? No, Beatrice's soul is in Wewelsburg Longinus and with the way she talks to Cain, she definitely considers it Kai and not Beatrice

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1190264075323707397
魔王たちを年齢順に並べると、以下のようなポジションになる。

ナダレ：愛が強すぎてうざい長女。
クワルナフ：我関せずの長男。
バフラヴァーン：グレてる次男。
カイホスルー：毛色が違う三男。
マシュヤーナ：一番常識人な次女。
アカマナフ：引きこもり。
フレデリカ：わがまま末っ子姫。

The eldest Demons Kings to the youngest.

>>22351404
Masada goes on to list the age order and dispositions of the demon kings in a tweet
Nedare: The older daughter who's love is overbearing and annyoing
Khavernah: The "no concern of mine" eldest son
Bafravan: The second son who's gone delinquent
Kaikhosru: The third son who's personality is completely different
Mashyana: The most normal second daughter
Aka Mannah: Hikikomori
Frederica: the selfish and spoiled youngest child (princess)

>>22351634
>Frederica: the selfish and spoiled youngest child
Ahhh...Frederica...

>>22351634
>Frederica: the selfish and spoiled youngest child (princess)
Ahhh...Murder Princess...

>>22351404
>As his older brother, he loved Magsarion more than anyone, understood him better than anyone and was concerned about his future more than anyone
Oh man this isn't going to end well...

>>22351404
>He possessed a broadminded personality and a one-track mind.
>a one-track mind
Guess it runs in the family.

>>22351634
>Nedare: The older daughter who's love is overbearing and annoying
Inb4 She’s Mithra’s sensory

More than 1500 supporters now. How much are they making?

>>22353859
Around 2 million yen.

>imagine being the first person to become god and paint existence with their craving
>imagine being the guy to kill everyone in the universe and being the first person to usurp god's position
>imagine being the guy who cleanses all sins using science and parallel timelines and shit
>imagine being the guy who was born from a paradox as a result of all that bullshit and creating gazalions of timeloops
>imagine being the guy who's whole purpose for existing is to kill the last guy and also having a cool nazi lion aesthetic
>now imagine all these nerds taking battle orders from some punk kid with a katana who only speaks when he does chuuni chants and who is simultaneously trying to have sex with every character from every throne

>>22354789
Gacha was a mistake

>>22354854
Thankfully that mistake got corrected. I wonder if Masada and G are approaching VN devs.

>>22354876
Pansuke is still the mc for Pantheon VN anyway, he'll just have a real personality now.

>>22355714
Are all the women older than him except maybe Yomi?

>>22355766
I think they're all older than him
That scene was pretty much screaming /ss/

>>22350106
Being so in love that you are mad > being mad

>>22355786
>I think they're all older than him
>That scene was pretty much screaming /ss/
What would a craving like that look like?

>>22350106
nah i just forgot how much of a monster reinhard was in the initial muzan hype

What I'm really interested in is what the soundtrack for Avesta would be like if it was a VN. I feel like Drakengard's OST would be a nice fit.

He was right

>>22358143
I agree. Wilhelm was completely right.

>>22357740
Same, I hope they sort out something out with regards to it coming out as a vn soon, at least before any of the big fights become a thing. Without the voice acting, art, soundtrack, effects, etc. It'd be kinda lame.

>>22358498
They'll just post MP3s for you to listen to at the same time

>>22359080
Im upset that they're not including illustrations during the chapters doubt they'll even provide mp3

>>22359377
They're putting together a crack team anon just give them some time

Is there a way to import the contents of a text file into a texthooker? Somehow I can actually read Avesta with the help of rikachan, but doing so on a white background hurts my eyes. If I just select and copy everything from the text file, there's no line breaks, which makes it impossible to read; copying it line-by-line works, but it's way too much of a bother with that much text.

>magsarion and co. kill the seven demon kings
>their alignments shift to evil because one of the features of Ahura Mazda is that if one side gets completely destroyed, the remaining side becomes inversed
>yesterday's good becomes today's evil
>now magsarion has to kill the rest of the main cast/former good, adding a whole new layer to the evil that devours evil
oh boy, i sure hope you guys like tragedies

>>22355714
pan-kun still confuses me
kouha was stuck in some weird place and watched all the heavens, but at the end of dairokuten some kid shows up? where did he come from? did she abduct him?

>>22360492
He is from 7th heaven. Why does kouha whose been around since first heaven calls him her brother you might ask? No idea

>>22360807
Got around to making a decent sensory?

>>22360812
Who?

>>22360807
i know he was born in the 7th heaven, but its just interesting since he was with kouha in whatever that place was

>>22360807
>He is from 7th heaven
Huh? Where was that from again? Did I miss that part in Saoshyant Desatir or from a tweet?

>>22361453
Look in the dies irae pantheon website translation pastebin in the top post

>>22361453
his character profile

>>22360492
>>22360807
The implication seems to be that she raised him so there's probably a short about of time(compared to Kouha's history) where it happened. Given how protective Kouha is of him from Mithra and how she seems motivated on carrying on with her mission alone for him to the point of having him forget everything about her and what she told him he must have already been part of Mithra's plans and Kouha's desperate to succeed by herself so he won't have to be part of it.

Of course, we know Pan-kun still becomes MC, gains the Pantheon ability and Kouha turns into a stuffed cat mascot, so Kouha's failure is set in stone(and is implied to be already predicted by Mithra).

Magsarion waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were evil in the planet. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Sirius were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Magsarion was a yazata for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the space birds and he said to brother "I want to be on the space birds bro."
Bro said "No! You will BE KILL BY DAEVA!"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the Vahman Yast he knew there were Daeva.
"This is Shinga" the avesta crackered. "You must fight the Daeva!"
So Magsarion gotted his sword and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the daeva
"I will shoot at him" said the forge of ruin and he fired the extinction star cluster. Magsarion sworded at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the evils!" he shouted
The avesta said "No, Magsarion. You are the evils"
And then Magsarion was a throne god.

>>22362773
Anon you shouldn’t post things like that. People might stop their subscriptions if you tell them the entire plot.

>>22362773

What is that on yuusuke's Twitter? Is it a new art book?

>>22365429
https://twitter.com/gyuusuke0601/status/1190869847996956672
This? He's just announcing his participation in the next Comiket, along with Masada. Nothing about a new artbook, or anything else so far, for that matter.

>>22365971
How is he going to reclaim the title of biggest cuck from Naraka?

>>22365516
What is that? Is there something from Masada and yuusuke that i should look forward to at that event?

>>22366249
Wait, do you really not know Comiket? How the fuck? Or rather, when did you got into weeb stuff?

>>22368095
If by weeb you mean anime stuff, about 2006? My friend in primary school asked me to watch Naruto and tell him what happened. In any case, i don't know about comiket.. ;)

>>22368157
You have to go back.

Avesta's setting would make for a pretty good tabletop rpg.

>trexalfa from spacebattles
>https://togetter.com/li/43570

interesting old comment from last year


>Thought of leaving this here. It is a 2010 Q&A session (Acta est Fabula era) from Masada. Contains interesting info, specially stuff that foreshadowed plot points from KKK (the Throne being the hub of past, present and future so Kemono-dono could be pulled into it to defend Tasogare), stuff we've seen even in IKaBey like Rosenkavalier Schwarzwald being a Hadou Briah with some Gudou characteristics (Masada thinks ahead. Finale is also this type of Briah), trivia like how well Rusalka and Helga can cook, Snake's Throne being composed of infinite universes being talked about (before KKK was even released), stuff about Satanel, Ren being able to break Holy Grail, and more.

>EDIT: Plus, I'm really headcanoning Masada's joke about the LDO's uniforms being made by that universe's G Yuusuke.

>There's also his statement about soul capacity here... Snake wins by a landslide, then come Ren and Reinhard, then Three Knights, then the rest, with Cain being difficult to gauge due to his nature.

>IKaBey seemed to suggest the Beast's soul vessel is infinite though, but 2010 Masada said Mercury>>>Gold in that aspect. Dunno, could be just the fanaticism of his fangs and claws hyping him up


curious if there is more Q&A's

>>22360039
Lol at your life, EOP.

>gods who aren't virgins
Reinhard
Ren
Marie
Mithra
Snek
>gods who are virgins
Old Snek
Hajun
Muzan

>>22371395
>the strongest are all virgins
Just like in real life

Quick edit to bump the thread. Hope you guys like it.

>>22374437
cleave and smite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cieWE_2VaiA 1:41 can anyone translate Yomi's Taikyoku?

>>22374437
He unironically did nothing wrong though.

>>22377962
I know I did a translation of her stuff back then, but I don't have it any more so I'll just wing it again here.

Her chant is just the more of the shortened Shinto rites that gets used a lot with onmyou and shinto magic.

The actual move:
太陰化生 [Lunar Metamorphosis]
This transforms Yomi's Divine Eye, which has the power to see through darkness into moonlight and releases it as a slashing attack.

So far Yomi's powers seem to mostly revolve on a divine sense to see into weaknesses and the root of an enemy's powers to strike right at its source.

Her Divine Eye sense seems to be a direct reference to 'dibba-cakkhu' here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhij%C3%B1%C4%81

>>22378468
How does a divine eye turn into a slashing attack?

>>22378481
Who knows. It's not actually about eyes, but divine sight and knowledge.

Concepts around her seems to be seeing into the 'dark' or what's obscured. In other words, it's a sight that cuts into the darkness, which then can manifest as an actual blade of moonlight that cuts literally.

Her quote at the end of the attack was "There are things that can only be seen in the darkness."

>>22378294
Correct Anon. But I thought it'd be a fun little edit to make.

Very quick edit before bed.

>>22381464
I'd think it'd be the other way around

>>22382223
I'd think you're clueless

Lads...

Hope we see the boomer king's design tomorrow

>>22382003
This reminds me of Asanagi's work for whatever reason. Now that I think about it, Rusalka would be perfect for one of his doujins.

>>22382003
Ahh...Anna...

>>22382003
I knew I had a higher res version somewhere.

Naraka's Sensory has arrived..

uhhhhhhh

>>22388549
Well gee he doesn't give me ______ vibes at all

>>22388557
The first lines on his character profile is literally
"He's Shirou"
Name: Zurvān
Height 180cm WeightL 72kg
He is the first Yatza that Quinn met and the one who brought her to the Domain of the Holy King
After Magsarion, he's the one with the second largest amount of military exploits, but his frivolous nature he tends to rob people the wrong way which makes him the most hated person.

Can kind anon post a chapter again please?

>>22388584
>The first lines on his character profile is literally: “He's Shirou"
FOREKNOWLEDGE

>>22388549
Fuck off Naraka

>>22388584
>even if it meant breaking her commandment, quinn thought about killing this guy countless times
Phew

>>22388584
Well this is pretty blatant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurvanism

>>22388584
We isn't he on his waifu's side? Is he her apoptosis too?

Cute Yazata (male)

>>22389530
>that thigh gap
>male

>>22388584
>shirouface

>>22388584
At least we know how he sounds even without voices

>>22389530
G has been starting to worry me with some of his designs, well the designs look cool but the faces are starting to starting to seem really similar. Senshinkan had a lot of variation in terms of character faces but now it seems like some of his newer women have the same face i.e Mithra, Kouha those two probably have a legitimate reason, Yomi, Marie, Samluk, Ren, this guy, etc. Quinn's face looks distinct, with the way her eyes are drawn.
Maybe I'm just a schizo

>>22389987
Dunno about sameface but I straight up don't like
>>22388549
and
>>22389530
It just feels too out of place, when so far his designs had been really grounded and fit the setting.
But maybe I'm the retard one.

>>22390010
I think the Shota looks alright, Zurvan on the other hand looks like a clown, which the narrative acknowledges.
Magsarion's design set a highish standard for me as I expected some more medieval/high fantasy designs.

>>22389844
I mean technically we also know what Magsarion sounds like

>>22390027
>Magsarion's design set a highish standard for me as I expected some more medieval/high fantasy designs
Exactly, Shota and Zurvan just clash so much with the rest. I don't remember any ParaL,DI or KKK character really clashing with the rest of the cast.
But again, Hajun now has robot arms, so who the fuck knows what's happening.

>>22390010
>>22390092
>>22390027
Except it's not just high-fantasy, it's basically space technomagic.
Just look at the star eating star.

>>22390237
Sure,still don't personally think those designs fit either high fantasy, technomagic, hf-tm, and even less the rest of the cast.

>>22390264
>>22388584 is basically a wacky space pirate

>>22390315
Hum, maybe, I'm not convinced but who knows maybe it'll grow on me. I'm not saying it's G being a bad artist mind you, it's really just my personal preferences.

>>22389987
>>22390392
I am too generally of the mind that G peaked in Kajiri and Senshikan when it comes to character art.

That said, I do appreciate elements of his current color and art style.

>>22389530
Ferdows, a young Yazata belonging to Quinn's generation who seems to align himself to Magsarion.

>>22388549
I like it, but I feel like he would look better with a different color scheme.

Plsi posti chapteri.

>>22389530
He kinda looks like teenage Snek.

>>22391878
>teenage Snek
That’s Ren

>>22392015
I mean younger, and Ren is ugly.

>>22388584
I bet my ass on Zurvan getting Tentsui'd somewhere in the story then shit will hit the fan. All Observers seem to follow a pattern of being LMAO TOTALLY NORMAL HUMANS then have some kind of power up.

>>22388584
So Naraka’s human form is just Shirou?

>>22395048
Naraka is Ren. Screencap this.

>>22395048
Naraka is Pan-kun, and Kouha/Pan-kun is parallel to past Mithra/Naraka. Screencap this.

Will Masada ever not spoil his own shit?

Quick Summary of the second half of the second chapter
>Quinn and Samluk leave the planetarium, thus concluding their tour
>Samluk calls out to a distant Yazata
>Once the Yazata approaches them Quinn recognises him as Ferdows, a Yazata
>Samluk and Ferdows go back in forth which leads to him revealing his arm, where he proudly boasts that he has received 7 feathers in consideration for his recent success
>Quinn and Ferdows seem to have a one-sided rivalry as each one received a feather before the other in the past i.e they both started at 3, but Ferdows reached 4 first, then Quinn reached 5 first
>After he's done boasting, Quinn informs him that she too holds 7 feathers, and Samluk tells him that she had 7 from the very start
>This shocks him and he tells Quinn to show him her feathers
>Of-course this command leads to her lifting up her skirt which causes Ferdows to become extremely embarrassed
>Then Samluk opts to show him her feathers as well, which are located under her right breast
>This causes Ferdows to freak out and call them perverts
>After things calm down, he informs them that he's been given the privilege of taking care of Nahid, Sirius' younger sister
>Nahid was the fiancee of Vahram and was to be Magsarion's sister in law
>One of the most important qualifications needed to become the Holy King is the ability to form a link with the star spirit Vohu Mannah
>Even in his weakened state, Vohu Mannah is still capable of giving a great number of divine blessings to the Wahman Yast
>Sirius was more than enough to fulfil this role, but he could not compare with his younger sister
>Nahid has the unprecedented ability to form connections and command over 2000 star spirits, she herself was considered to be a hero equal to Vahram
>Her power was so great that it could even inspire fear amongst some of her allies and was described the ultimate power
>Samluk initially thought that Nahid was dead that Ferdows was going to visit her grave, which Quinn quickly corrected by stating that she was alive though that there were some circumstances though Ferdows cuts her off before she can say the rest
>Samluk decides to tag along with Ferdows and orders Quinn to come along
>Ferdows warns Samluk to not do anything rude, and that while Nahid may not say anything, Ferdows won't forgive her
>Samluk is getting more and more confused
>They enter Nahid's room and Samluk understands what they were talking about
>Nahid is sitting on a chair facing the window, unmoving and non-responsive
>Quinn explains that by using a device created by Khavernah, Nahid is essentially frozen in time
>Samluk starts to freak out and says that this is fucked up and almost as though she's dead
>Ferdows beings to explain to her that she has been in this state for 20 years, the reason why is because she's far too precious to the war effort to be lost
>He also starts to use the pronoun kimi with Samluk which Quinn notes that he normally refers to people he dislikes or doesn't care about as anta but uses kimi for people he recognises as his comrades
>he was most likely moved by Samluk's strong sense of justice
>She asks how long they intend to keep her frozen, another 20 years?
>Ferdows responds that she may be frozen for another 200 or 2000 years, as long as the war continues, they can't afford to lose her
>Then she asks if she accepted this willingly, which Quinn responds that she most likely did as a result of her sibling bond with Sirius
>Samluk notes that she's smiling and that some tears around her eyes remain
>Quinn then looks at the scenery which is reflected in Nahid eyes

>>22396114
>She sees Magsarion in the forest, single mindlessly swinging his sword as if it were the only thing he knew how to do
>Endlessly raising his sword and swinging it down
>Quinn notes that she hadn't seen him at all since they returned the Wahman Yast, and wondered if he had been here all along
>The only reason Quinn was able to spot him was because the area around him had completely vanished: the trees, the grass, all that was left was a hollow wasteland which seemed as if a drought had hit it
>It wasn’t the result of lumbering or soil preparation
>Most likely, since the day he returned to the Domain of the Holy King, he swung his swords hundreds of millions of time, and through the pressure, his footwork, his blood and sweat most likely brought this about
>Rather than labelling it as destruction, complete erasure would be far more apt
>The amount of damage this caused to the forest was far worse than what a fire could have brought
>The forest will never regenerate from this
>Whilst receiving the smile of the star princess, it was as if his repeated swings were saying that he cared not for such a thing
>Whilst cladded in heavy armor, swinging a great sword that was the size of a person countless times, over and over and over again
>Violently and crazed, he puts his entire soul into each blow
>A grip which borders on terrifying, the demonic gauntlets which were crafted through inhuman technology were creaking
>Blood and sweat were literally scattering out, bits of flesh were breaking off
>As if it were being torn to pieces and was screaming, the atmosphere shook
>Upon watching this scene Samluk brings up how Quinn once said that Magsarion was a hard worker, she then says that she was wondering what she was talking about but during their fight at the village and watching him practice, she says that he has absolutely no talent though she says that he’s strong
>Both she and Quinn wonder what drives him so far, at first they speculate that it’s revenge for his brother but in this day and age, wanting revenge isn’t a rare motivator, they wonder what’s so different
>Ferdows interjects that it comes from a sense of duty
>Vahram was so great that Magsarion is now suffering. As the younger brother who survived, his duty is to succeed his brother. However, he knows better than anyone that he can never become like his brother
>Quinn asks if Ferdows know why Magsarion is the way that he is, to which he responds that he learned this from Zurvan once ago
>Samluk asks them to stay on topic, and then ponders if the one Magsarion is truly angry at is none other than himself, to which Ferdows responds that’s most likely only one part of it and that nothing is that simple
>He further goes on to state that no matter how hard he may try, Magsarion will not become Vahram. However, Magsarion would not forgive himself if he ran away. He knows that he is an ordinary man and if he lives that way that’s all that he will amount to. For others that might be a choice, but not for the younger brother of a hero. It is a path to hell, without talent or beauty, the further you advance the more you that you begin to lose parts of yourself. While it will never result in the adoration of others, it’s so that he can achieve victory, no matter what. No matter what it takes, even if he is writhing in a sea of blood or if they entire world sneers behind his back, he won’t lose. For that reason, he follows the Avesta thoroughly, far more than anyone else. He will not forgive any enemy; he will massacre them all. That is the only path for the man who cannot become a hero
>Ferdows then states that the Avesta never mentioned that you must protect your fellowman, even then the definitions of good and evil were attached afterwards to those existing sides. If you were to ask him what was truly just, Magsarion who is completely faithful to the Avesta encapsulates justice. Which is why he respects Magsarion, though he states that he has no intention of imitating him nor does he think he is capable of doing so. He simply recognizes him as a peerless sword which differs from Vahram. A malevolent sword as opposed to the divine sword that was Vahram
>The company leave Nahid and then Samluk notes that once Magsarion is out of feathers he simply returns to get a recharge, to which Quinn states that his number of feathers are different than theirs
>Samluk asks how many Magsarion has, to which Ferdows answers say that he only knows that he has more than 20, though most likely has a far larger amount now.

>>22396120
>On their way back to the barracks the company encounters Zurvan who calls out to Quinn
>Zurvan was the fist Yazata Quinn met and the one who brought her to the domain of the holy kingdom
>Zurvan is extremely unpopular amongst the Yazata, and even Magsarion has a faction which supports him, Nneedless to say, he’s the most disliked person in the Wahman Yast
>Quinn has thought about killing him several times, even if it meant breaking her commandment
>He notifies them that Magsarion and by extent his punishment was decided and they are to go on a mission and that he’s looking for some others to help as well
>He tells them to come along and play with them

>>22396114
Thanks for the summary Anon!

>>22396120
>>Most likely, since the day he returned to the Domain of the Holy King, he swung his swords hundreds of millions of time, and through the pressure, his footwork, his blood and sweat most likely brought this about
God, I love this autist so much.

>>22396138
>The young boy held a dream
>To become stronger, more heroic and more just than anyone in this world
>He wanted to become the symbol of hope and to become a legendary hero who could make the impossible possible
>Those around him could never compare and he always defeated them with ease
>As time went on he believed himself to have been the protagonist chosen by God
>That's why when he was first defeated, it came as a complete shock
>He did not feel anger or disappointment, only
complete surprise
>"Wow! You're really strong!"
>The boy he lost to was of 14 years of age, he was neither from a noble family nor a Yazata, he had the looks of a cowboy from the countryside
>This was a true hero, is what he thought. An actual leaving legend. Someone who he could pass his dream onto
>"My name's Sirius! Come on, tell me your name!"
>He began to laugh uncontrollably
>"Vahram, but um"
>Is this guy alright? Was what his appearance was saying and then his voice dropped
>"Sorry, did I hit you too hard?"
>Sirius grabbed his out stretched hand with all his might
>He continued to laugh
>Those in the gallery looked on with worry but he did pay mind to it
>Vahram gave a bitter smile
>"What the hell, you're pretty strange guy"
>"Shut up, understand my feelings and bear it"
>The two young boys cursed at each other whilst joining shoulders with one another and they laughed and they laughed which caused a ripple like effect
>The start was Sirius' younger sister Nahid who was four years his junior. She was a social recluse and her speaking was rare in itself, but she began to laugh as well
>Her lovely and pure voice was like a song, afterwards it charmed several star spirits which made them peak. One by one they were enveloped in a chain reaction of blessings
>For them this day was certainly a miracle
>Sirius awakens from his nap and his dream
>He is all alone in the throne room
>30 years had passed from that day, his hair and his beard have both gone grey
>The light in his eyes have dulled as well
>The features of the young boy in that dream are no more
>It wasn't as though Sirius had only changed, he was the only one who had remained
>His father and mother are dead, his instructor too. His comrades who he had studied together with as well, his suburbanites who he had loved as his own children. All their families, their neighbours and all those he had ever loved. There is no one left.
>"My friend, I cannot become like you. However, because of that I can see things"
>"This world is completely wrong. For you to end up like that... I won't accept it. I promise you Vahram, I will create a new world without fail"
>If Vahram had lived, If it were him he would take that possibility [hope] and would take it to the throne of God where that foolish ruler resides. That's why I believed in my task.
>"Even I could perform such a task. But if it were you, you would do far better job, everyone believes that, as do I. So our promise will be fulfilled"
>The young boy had a dream
>For the sake of the man who was stronger, more heroic and more just than anyone in this world
>"As the miracle that everyone prayed for, return to life my friend"

>>22396114
>>This shocks him and he tells Quinn to show him her feathers
>>Of-course this command leads to her lifting up her skirt which causes Ferdows to become extremely embarrassed
>>Then Samluk opts to show him her feathers as well, which are located under her right breast
>>This causes Ferdows to freak out and call them perverts
/ss/ is back on the menu

>>22396289
>If Vahram had lived, If it were him he would take that possibility [hope] and would take it to the throne of God where that foolish ruler resides.
If Sirius knows about Mithra and the Throne, then the Demon Kings must too.

>>22396120
If Avesta is a VN like Dies Irae, I'm sure Nahid would have a route along with Quinn and Nadare.

>>22397575
It would be a single route like Masada said.

>>22397575
Nah, it woud only be a standalone VN like IkaBey.

>along with quinn
>implying it would't be an otome with quinn as protag

>>22397823
meant for
>>22397575

>>22396120
>he has more than 20, though most likely has a far larger amount now
>they're located on both his eyes
Must look pretty cool

>>22398261
Probably looks like the Qliphoth.

>>22398285
Nah.

>>22398295
That's his Throne self, though, I really doubt he still posses the feathers.

>>22398307
I mean wouldn't he use the same buffs and abilities in combat?

>>22398285
That's a bit hard to imagine, but who knows. Assuming Magsarion is Muzan , I expect to seem some more Christian/Hebrew parallels like how one of his special techniques was called Alastor, as in the demon from Christianity.
>>22398307
Adding to that, the feathers are the divine blessings from Vohu Mannah. If he's dead, no more feathers and he's definitely dead by the time Muzan ascends to the throne.
>>22398325
Maybe the summoned Aeon version of him when he was Magsarion.

>>22398307
And yet he still has his 3 Commandments, I'm not doubting that he found some other means to get star spirits blessings after he left Wahman Yast if he was tentsui'd.

I mean does Throne Reinhard really fight that differently from regular Reinhard?

>>22398339
Do we even know if Aeons are even still a thing since Pantheon doesn't need to have a Gacha mechanic anymore

>>22398356
Yeah, he uses his legion's abilities. Which is about it I think.
>>22398348
I don't know man, commandments seem like a really big deal considering that even Mithra is tied to her's as a God and it originated from her law. Though she might just be bullshiting to get out of explaining the whole deal with Naraka.

>>22398380
Most likely because otherwise the Gods aren't going to be able to do anything whatsoever since they're stuck in that space. Unless Masada circumvents the need for Aeons by having the main characters encounter the various casts in their own chapters i.e the LDO in the fourth chapter.
Though that puts Pan-kun and Kouha in a precarious position since their main ability is gone, but Pan-kun was supposed to be pretty strong so Masada would most likely come up with something else.

Have we had a successful thread (as in, reach the bump limit) on /a/ since the anime ended last year?

>>22398510
There was the one right before these threads were created, but that only got as far as it did because the OP was a bait post trying to rile up fatefags.

>>22389530
I-it's really a twink? Haha...

>>22398999
You know you still would, anon. As would I.

Plsi posti newi chapteri.

>>22339546
Since we didn't get Sirius' design this week I went and gave it a go on this pic, tell me if that's what you had in mind Anon.

>>22398510
Nope

>>22404172
It's excellent anon

The fuck's a Sirius?

>>22406530
The Holy King

>>22404172
Muzan: "Do you wish to right this crooked world ? Do you find the sinful utterly unforgivable ? You must be longing for a land of the virtuous; to purge all that is evil."
Muzan: "However, as you endeavor to eliminate the filth, you will be tainted in blood. Thus when the time comes for you to make your pure innocent world real, the final obstacle will the greatest filth of all; yourself."
Muzan: "With Sin comes Punishment. Then, what shall you do ?"
Muzan: "What will you use that clever brain of yours for ?"
Muzan: "Though we share the same ideal, you would build an entirely different land. You alone can do it, a paradise to call your own."

Satanael: "Ok, Boomer."

>>22407222
>hajun is 14 years old physically
Damn, he's a zoomer.

>>22404172
Take pic related and put the can of monster where I marked in red, in a way that half the can "disappears" below the image, so that it actually looks like he's holding the can.

>>22391878
He kinda looks like that shota from Dragon Maid to me.

>>22408152
Like this?

You'd think with all the magical bullshit Avesta has Magsarion would be able to stay young

>>22408177
A bit lower, until the yellow part is covered, also make it straight.

>>22408188
Done.

>>22408201
Perfect, thanks a lot, lad.

>>22408207
No problem! I'll do it again if we get an official Sirius pic.

>>22408182
You gotta chill to stay young, just look at that eternally smug hag, Mithra. Muzan probably didn't get to chill until he rested his ass on that comfy chair, got himself a stylish suit and practiced his dad jokes while waiting on Saltman.

>>22408245
Maybe he'll also stop being an angry autist after his brother's Aeon shows back up

>>22408182
The thing is that with Magsarion/Muzan is that not only was his appearance not in line with his portryal in KKK, neither was his personality or character. The same is true of Mithra too.
>>22408287
Anon...
Muzan said he killed his brother in the switch scenario... I don't think that's going to stop his anger....

>>22408362
Isn't his brother already dead

>>22408381
Sirius was talking about resurrecting Vahram in this recent chapter, so maybe it has something to do with that

>>22408381
It's extremely vague but Muzan does say that he killed his brother, so I guess he dies twice

What exactly is a commandment. Just a power that comes with a rule?

>>22408362
He said that he killed his brother? I read that scenario but I don't remeber this part.

>>22408977
Literally right here >>22408410

>>22408986
I mean can you quote his words?

>>22409019
>結果、誰もいなくなった。すべて俺が殺したのだ
>前の神も、善も、悪も、兄弟も。

>>22409335
At least he got Mithra

>>22409335
That's not what Kyodai means in that context.

>>22409457
Pray tell what context that is other than familial. Because he doesn't mean it in the comrade/friend sense because he doesn't have comrades and he already mentioned that he killed both good and evil.

>>22409457
Then what context then? I don't see anything else but his own brother in that phrase, it can't be his comrades since he rejects the very idea of having any.

Gotta give it to japan executives and directors : they're ability to formulate 10/10 dissertation-tier bullshit rambling, cop out answers on the spot is unmatched.

>>22404172
Okay booma

>>22408964
You get a 'directive'. If you follow it, you get more powerful. If you disobey it, you get a 'punishment', which may even end up in your death.

>>22412543
How does Magsarion avoid punishment from disobeying his commandment when he embarks on his genocidal rampage?

>>22408964
You set up your own restriction and swear to uphold it. The larger the inconvenience, the greater the boon and in general that boon is linked with that restriction.
For example:
You swear to never dodge an attack, you must always take an attack in an unguarded state with it comes all the pain and fear as normal, but as long as you uphold it, you're immortal.
>>22412543
>>22412586
>If you disobey it, you get a 'punishment', which may even end up in your death
Death probably the best possible outcome and is the most prevalent punishment. However there are punishments which are far worse than death, and in some cases the punishments are extremely strange but the details are unclear.

>>22412586
What? So far we don't know any of his Commandments and we don't even know if he ever broke them, what he breaks regularly are Wahman Yast directives.

https://twitter.com/AmberQ_Kogane2/status/1069252024485564417

>>22412738
Killing everything in the universe should break at least a few commandments, no?

>>22412915
Like what?

>>22412752
Snek...

Decided to try and translate October's creator's corner.

Muzanmuki.... No matter how the sinful deed you may commit, you face it with a heart that lacks shame and remorse. This work "The Avesta of Black and White" is organised by one theme. The protagonist? You can say that it's Magsarion. Last time we talked about how creators are somewhat sinful creatures. Myself and G are also shameless and remorseless in a certain sense. Until now we've caused a great number of people a huge amount of trouble and there were many times where we were unable to meet expectations. Even then we did not leave the industry, we continued to cling on. Even though the company [light] had gone bankrupt, and we parted ways with our comrades, who we drank with from the same cup. Even now we cling onto the kindness of everyone and we continue to produce more work. In a sense we truly are shameless and at the same time we fully realise how fortunate we are.

Therefore, our characters who you might also call our children are also shameless. Will they be met with a happy conclusion or perhaps not? This project's future is also similarly unclear. Please everyone, I'd like for you to pray as well. Listen to Quinn's voice, if you have all been touched by her feelings, there is a possibility that the miracle she seeks will be given form. And please... save Magsarion. In order to end his war, his path to hell paved with slaughter.

Well the introduction was quite serious but this story is not all sunshine and rainbows, as such the entire mood for it is dark and depressing. This first chapter is a good example. To them, this is the norm. No matter where, tragedy unfolds. So how was it?

It's already harsh enough?
It's real good, keep going?
You're being too lenient, you're still going too soft on them?

There are probably a lot of opinions and I intend to try my best meeting as many of them as possible. Kind of like this [look towards image]

Yeah, nice G. You in particular need to try your best.

>>22415205
>>Will they be met with a happy conclusion or perhaps not?
>Already know that the story ends with literally everyone dying

>>22415347
>literally everyone dying
Except Muzan, and Mithra’s Law is finally broken, so in a way you could call it a ‘happy’ ending.

>>22415357
But Muzan has unfinished business now

Hey guys does the 4:3 aspect ratio patch just don't work with the DX version?

>>22416052
Finish a least one route. Skipping through until the end also works. F7 to make this easier.

>>22416085
Damn, that's really shitty. I wanted to play all of it on 4:3.

>>22416103
I mean, you can just F7+skip until the end of the first route, then start again from the beginning.

So, some theories from Japanese fans:

Varhran is actually posing as Magsarion whilst the real Magsarion is Aka Manah.
2. Muzan is actually a composite being of Magsarion, Varhran and Bhavan because of the "n" name ending.
3. Magsarion’s commandment is that he must take on the prayers that he was entrusted with and continue them, In return he gains their power as his own ,perhaps Magsarion + Varhran + Sirius = the three commandments that Muzan holds and mirrors Quinn's commandment and fits in with the reoccurring importance of prayers.

>>22416215
Speculated 2 and 3 myself

>>22416215
Wouldn't he also have Quinn's commandment in that case?

Some places list Taikyoku as being above the Throne because to anyone with Taikyoku the Throne is just a tool, some places list the Tumor and Hajun having the Throne as the source of their Taikyoku... is that just wrong?

>>22417031
Yep. Taikyoku existed before the Throne. The Throne is just a framework/support for the reigning Hadou God to expand their Law.

>>22417031
>Some places list Taikyoku as being above the Throne because to anyone with Taikyoku the Throne is just a tool
Dunno if that's stated anywehere but that seems pretty legit since Goudou-hood isn't linked to the Throne. Now, you can't be a Heaven if you don't take the Throne aka extend your craving/law over the whole universe/multiverse.Could a god to away with the Throne after reaching that state? I guess in theory it's possible but why do it ? Naraka probably did some shit to prevent that as well.
> some places list the Tumor and Hajun having the Throne as the source of their Taikyoku... is that just wrong?
You know, people seem really confused about what's going one with that tumor when it's really simple :
>Hajun craving : I wanna be alone in the universe
>but has something stuck to him he can't find, its twin brother, the Tumor
>because he can't find him his craving keeps getting stronger aka infinitely rasing his Taikyoku
That's all the Tumor is, really. When it takes the throne it just becomes a regular Gudou.

>>22417198
Had a stroke, replace all Gudou by Hadou.

>>22417198
Basically we just need to see how Mithra achieved Hadou God status

Ok thanks, dumb question, I feel like I remember seeing somewhere in narration that Ellie uses a Colt anaconda. But I can't for the life of me remember, does anyone know?

>>22416215
I get the feeling that if Aka Manah is actually any of them it'd be Varhran or something that will incarnate as Varhran/was Varhran. The 邪戒廻向 name, location, Seirios' obsession with Varhran and the deal with prayers all go too well together.

The entire deal with the loli and the village may just be foreshadowing for where the prayers of the desperate Wahman Yast will lead.

>>22417031
Naraka&friends/inner Throne> Hadou Taikyoku>outer Throne.

>>22417232
>Step by step, Wilhelm got closer. Shirou looked at him and took out a Colt Anaconda ― the gun used by Ellie.

This is during the fight in Marie's route after Shirou gives birth to himself (looking at the game's script since it's easier to search for stuff)

>>22417453
The problem with Aka Manah being Vahram is that when your alignment gets inverted, your strength does as well. So a strong person would become weak and a weak person would become strong. Unless he became evil through some other method other than tentsui, perhaps he broke his commandment and instead of instant death his alignment was shifted.
I don't know man after Senshinkan, I'm just expecting some big twists to take place to compensate for the fact that we know how this mostly ends.

>>22417841
No wonder I couldn't find it.. I was looking at fights with Ellie. How do you see the games script? Is it in a file in the game folder or something?

>>22417849
>So a strong person would become weak and a weak person would become strong.
What if you were average, like Magsarion?

>>22417880
>>22417880
You'd have to rip the files. It's the exec.dat in the system folder, but even then it's a bit disgusting to look through since it has a bunch of information for the engine itself that's garbage for normal people, and every character has a null byte after it it which was fun to clean up. Even after cleaning up there's still some special characters here and there which the engine reads in its own magical way. The v_xxyyyy are the voice files for the line. If you're interested in the cleaned up version, here.

https://chantpostr.feen.us/o57kqec76r604xo523tvdtyy9v76wvv635vm5t67qe3kuv68hq.zip

>>22417893
Thx for your help btw

>>22417891
Could go either way, but I imagine strong. Magsarion is strong without a doubt but he has no talent or natural ability, he got to the point he is so far through sheer anger and autism.

>>22417849
Yes, I'm mostly implying that it's -not- tentsui. At least not in the way we're told about, and even then tentsui is still something not well known about from an in-world perpsective.

I'm mostly thinking that this is going to be Seirios' fault. Vahram is dead, but his(and many of the Wahman Yast's) attachment to Vahram being their one miracle Yuusha that could create an evil shadow of Vahram. Magsarion won't accept such an existence.

Here's another thought; the Ashavan must have a Holy King to serve as their win/loss condition, but what happens if the Holy King undergoes tentsui ? Can a side lose simply because their essential 'king piece' tentsuis ? What if Seirios tentsui-ed and instead of falling it created a shadow of him because the king can't fall ? This shadow then feeds off Seirios' and the Wahman Yast's prayers, hopes and desperation for a miracle(Varhran) until it becames a new demon lord. Hence why its location is overlapping with Wahman Yast territory. It's constantly there, feeding off the Wahman Yast.

>>22417891
It's his talent at the martial arts that was average.
If you look at the entire Ashavan as a whole he's definitely on the the upper levels just by being a Yazata and a veteran survivor. Flipping means he'd drop to non-combatant levels.

>>22417781
Not really, that was only for the fake Hadou Gods

>>22419600
>Can a side lose simply because their essential 'king piece' tentsuis
It's not just the holy king but the entire domain as well. The thing is that neither side actually ever loses because of that vicissitudes of justice bullshit that the first throne has. Where if one side every completely destroys the other, they become inverted i.e yesterday's good becomes today's evil. Which I think has to show up at some point and which leads to Muzan killing his former fellows
But I do like your idea of Aka Manah being a shade of Vahram born from the desperate prayers of the Ashavan.
I do hope Magsarion/Muzan's character and motivation goes deeper than his monologue from the switch scenario suggests.

>>22419870
And what do you mean by that? You're implying the the Gods we see in Saoshyant Desatir are fake when it's very much implied that they are the same who sat on the Throne?

>>22420406
They are explicitly not the originals. They are just copies made by the MC's Pantheon ability.
That's reason why the supreme cuck can control them and even disable their bodies, and also the only way for those killed by Hajun to still exist.

>>22420446
MC-Kun isn't even there

>>22420446
Pansuke isn't even here and do you even know the reason why Kouha was called by Mithra to come and listen to them?

>>22420446
You're thinking of aerons anon, which the ones in the scenario aren't.
>>22420406
It's less that they're fake and more like once they're dead, they're Naraka's property for the most part. He seemingly can't do shit other than using his sensories to subtly instigate change as tricksters when it comes to living gods.

>>22420503
Yeah that's what I wanted to say to that anon, Naraka never took the matter on his hands for changing eras and always used his Observers who are quite subtle.
That's only after the Gods "died" that he has some semblance of control over them and even that control limited, they still have a lot of freedom so far.

>>22420532
I suppose

dead franchise

>>22426122
Livelier than your life apparently

>>22426122
Yeah, that's why Masada is doing this whole crowdfunding thing, in hopes of resurrecting the franchise one day.

Had a sudden interrogation, what happens to Hajun's soul at the end of KKK when he dies? Under which Heaven's law is it under? His and it's erased like Marie, Rein, etc? Amaterasu/Tumor's (dunno how this one works) or is just a "normal" death?

>>22426950
Put on a leash by Naraka and somewhere in the inner Throne with the others Hadou Gods, currently ignoring them and the only one who can feel Naraka and 4 others existences up there.

Some thoughts:
Taikyoku is a pretty shit concept like anything that puts a value on powerlevels and only exists because Masada couldn't find a workaround to Ren's power. Being able to time freeze everyone and everything is far too OP even by DI standards. He had the conflicting laws as an excuse in DI and had no problem with Ren btfoing everyone that isn't an Hadou because that's literally the point but this couldn't work anymore in KKK where Hajun had to be a threat and the EE weren't designated fodder like the LDO.

>>22427030
the conflicting laws "excuse" in DI was the same excuse in KKK tho

>>22427759
Not really, Gudou aren't immune to the laws, they just don't fall under the restriction of not being able to use their full power, since as it only focuses on themselves it doesn't directly clash with the expandings laws of Hadous.
EE only resisted and won because they had more Taikyoku and Habaki victory's over Yato is literally only due to Hajun/the Tumor feeding him power, aka Taikyoku.

>>22426122
ok boomer

Lore dump week, Here's Nahid, Sirius little sister, Varhrām's fiancee and Magsarion's sister-in-law.

>>22429452
Varhrām, Sirius and Nahid as children.

>>22429460
Does she ship them?

>>22429452
What if she is also a sensory of Mithra

>>22429452
>>22429460
It's just me, or does this have a really high number of illustrations for a WN? Even most LNs would feature from 5 to 10 per volume, and this seems like it's going to go way beyond that. Is Masada overworking G?

>>22429653
If G has nothing else he's working on it seems about right. From what I understand LN artists are contracted to do a few pieces of art and will generally have multiple projects at once. Compared to the rate some weekly mangaka put out a few illustrations a week is reasonable, especially for someone who seems to know what they're doing like G.

>>22429649
She has platinum blonde hair so I don't think so.

>>22429701
>weekly mangaka
Most of those usually use assistants to come to a good level of detail.
>>22429758
>Implying that sensories need to resemble the original at all

>>22429826
Say that to all the Observers, Karl and Habaki.

>>22429826
Say that to all the sensories we've seen thus far

>>22429925
Hirume?

>>22430021
What about her?

>>22429925
Hirume?

>>22430033
Well she and Habaki are the sensories of the same God, and they sure as hell don't look alike..

>>22430056
>Well she and Habaki are the sensories of the same God
Habaki was the sensory of the Tumour
Hirume is the sensory of Amaterasu, who is the Tumour reborn through the union of Habaki and Rindou's Taikyoku
It sounds confusing because it is

>>22430056
>>22430077
Hirume is actually the God and Amaterasu itself, the Sakura tree is more like her heart.

>>22429452
>>22429460
Oh fuck, she's perfect.

>>22430143
>>22430077
>>22430056
>Well she and Habaki are the sensories of the same God
>Hirume is actually the God and Amaterasu itself, the Sakura tree is more like her heart
Yes and No
>Hirume is the sensory of Amaterasu
The tree is in fact Amaterasu and Hirume isn't a sensory
Hirume's body [the pink haired loli] was created by Yakou. It's far above the likes of a human but it can't compare to an actual god, which is why I assume she's on the 6th tier below the actual gods.
Hirume is THE god but her body isn't. I hope i explained it well enough.

>>22430185
Habaki was the Tumor's sensory in KKK and he was 4th tier though

>>22430277
What tier was Karl Kraft again?

>>22430327
Not listed. But Rein is basically tier 6 so Karl should be there himself..

>>22430474
I don't know why but it always cracks me up when people call Snek 'Karl'.

>>22430507
I called Snek Karl to reply to someone... i usually refer to Snek as Merc. And technically since we are talking about Merc's sensory, calling him "Karl" isn't exactly wrong.. :))

>>22430507
Ahhh... STTTTEEEEVEEEEE!!!!

>>22430077
Geh? Wasn't Habaki a cell of Hajun? He even call him his brother in panth prologue non?
Also, the Tumor was Hajun's twin brother right, so how the fuck did it get reborn into a cute pink haired genki girl? Was I meme'd on?

>>22409511

In that context it could also mean "brethren".

>>22431137
That's redundant because he already mentioned how he killed both good and evil, he talking specifically about how killed his brother. It's not that hard to understand.

>>22431137
And who or what would Magsarion call his brethren when he don't have any besides his own blood related older brother?

>>22430960
The Tumour incarnated through the union of Habaki (its sensory) and Rindou (its apoptosis) taikyoku, its real body is a SAKURA TREE in Takamagahara.
Hirume is that tree's meat puppet.

>>22430960
Everyone born in the 6th is literally a cell of Hajun. Your reaction is reasonable though as even the japanese were making jokes about Hirume being Hajun's brother-sister-niece.

>>22431250
>Hirume is that tree's meat puppet
Ahem
HIRUME IS A FAT TREE

>>22430960
>the japanese were making jokes about Hirume being Hajun's brother-sister-niece
Ah shit you reminded me about those comics
does anyone have the other one with hirume and hajun?

>>22431260
Go back getting raped by high schoolers red Anna.

>>22431250
>>22431255
I see, that makes sense. I just still don't really understand >>22430185
His description of body Hirume fits that of a sensory, Amaterasu simply didn't create the flesh body herself, Yakou did it for her. Or is there a fundamental difference I'm missing?

>>22431250
I'd meat that puppet

>>22431323
Who's the smuggest?

>>22431906
Mithra

>>22431272

gib marie

>>22436452
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>22436901
Here you go, you poor snek.

>>22431870
Yomi > Hirume

This week's update by trexalfa:

Okay so, for the second part of today's update... we got a kind of afterword to Chapter 2 that doesn't really add much to the plot except saying "characteristics of King", that is, charisma, and leader like mentality, are associated with Hadou Emanation in terms of Shinza's world. Also, chapter 2 contained numerous "king-like" characters: Varhram, Nahid, Sirius, the Seven Archdemons... the concept of "king" is apparently enormously important to Avesta. So far, we know Sirius is the character Masada likes the most out of them.

And with that said, let's move on to this week's glossary entries:

Nahid:

A woman who was the hero Varhram's fianceé, as well as Holy King Sirius' younger sister. In regards to Magsarion, she could be said to be his sister in law. She was a miko of the stars who could establish a connection with and manipulate at least 2,000 Star Spirits at will. From the standpoint of her Star Spirit controlling technique, there is no single person who could equal Nahid, either before or after her time. When taking into account that even the currently dormant Star Spirit Vohu Manah grants many blessings to Quinn and the others, it goes without saying how unparalleled she was.

Due to her excessive affinity towards spirits, she showed a tendency to acting socially withdrawn as a child. However, when meeting Varhram, she grew to adulthood as a woman, becoming a leader of Good as a full of love girl of nobility. However, she lost Varhram in the battle from 20 years ago and hereafter, under the pretext of preserving her power until the chance for victory presents itself, she's remained sealed within a prison of stopped time.

>>22442253

Freezing Seal:

A device produced by Khvarenah, capable of stopping local time. Its limit is at enclosing a single human, therefore its AoE could be said to be extremely narrow. However, the things caught within its interior are completely stopped and protected from any change. Because of this, things within are unaffected by the deterioration that comes with the passing of time, as well as from all interferences or penetration from the outside. Not even light can affect them.

Therefore, it is impossible to destroy the things sealed inside, at least through this story's techniques and abilities. Even though it is seen as the perfect conservation device, it is, at the end of the day, a simple tool, so it can be deactivated through simple operation. Its terminal is in Sirius' hands, and it is depending on his feelings that the currently sealed inside Nahid will be revived.

Three Great Heroes:

Epithet refering to Varhram, Nahid and Sirius. From Quinn and the others' point of view, they are their generation's great forerunners. Each of them being unparalleled existences, they established Wahman Yast's golden age. Their bonds were hard and, swearing eternal loyalty and love to one another, they set their eyes on the objective of Good's victory. However, this resulted in the utter defeat suffered at the hands of Archdemon Khvarenah, and it today's situation.

>>22335267
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So Muzan is not classified as a leader, therefore lacking a component of Hadou emanation. Interesting...

>>22445947
You can also say that to Snek and Marie.

>>22445947
>>22446543
And Hajun.

Gudou = super autism
Hadou = super ultra autism & be angry

That's really all there is to it.