/jp/ - Otaku Culture

You don't know japanese if japanese isn't your L1

おにいさん

おはようござます

すっきりしたね

Have you ever taken a Japanese course in college? What was it like? Is it worth it?

>>22255962
no, like shit and no

wotd: 箝口令

>>22255947
you don't know japanese.

>>22255962
college isnt worth it but dont let the weirdos tell u taking a language class is a bad thing if you decided to make the choice of going to college anyway and u need credits or a language requirement. my class was fun at first but i ended up skipping it a lot by the end

any general rule for when I should read 一 as ひと?

lol these first 10 posts sum up really well what these threads consist of no real reason to stay here now

>>22255984
I mean in a compound, not standalone ofc.

>>22255984
read more and youll be able to feel it

>>22255996
there's no system to the madness stop bs peeps:

一任
一部
一人

>>22255984
no tips but i keep reading 一人前 as ひとにんまえ and its driving me mad

>>22256000
trips of truth

>>22255984
read more and you will know which words in you read it as ひとbecause you've already read them

how much of tea runes will you be able to read from learning moon runes

>>22256011
shit like this makes me feel like this language is a fucking joke. Yet i still keep coming back.

>>22256018
wow what a cutie, wish i could just hold her hand

>>22256018
this no being in the top 10 posts makes me feel 淋しku

>>22256032

>>22255962
it was worth it because i made a lot of friends including the teacher who is a boss as fuck nihonjin and still keeps up with me till this day. as for the learning, to be frank not that much. i could’ve gotten 3x further in my first year if i was just listening and reading on my own and doing anki. but the social, group aspect helped a lot with motivation and enthusiasm i think.

>>22256039
based my nihonjin assistant japanese teacher added me on facebook

>>22256051
>>22256039
normies need to leave

>>22256021
this is where you messed up
just relac kic bac and watch some anime
let the japanese flow into your system, enjoy the trip because the destination is far

>>22256021
stop trying to "read kanji" one by one. learn words FIRST (kana, spoken) and then learn what kanji is used to depict them. otherwise you'll fuck yourself up with this problem like i and many others did. THE SPOKEN LANGUAGE IS PRIMARY

>それはあまり言わない方がよっかたんじゃないかと

What is the literal translation of the above, I get the translated meaning as something along the lines of:
>I think it would be better if you didn't say / go that far that

but I'm struggling to unpick a literal meaning which I can bend into the translated meaning my best is:

>as for that a little to not say would be better I think

reading kanji is such a fuckin meme. kanji is just supposed to reminded you of the word and then the word should instantly pop into your brain as a whole cohesive unit. you shouldn't be looking at each kanji in every word and going "is it this 'reading'? is it this 'reading'?" thats a one way ticket to cripple town. remember japanese kids already know thousands of words before they ever learn the kanji for them.

ill believe you once you show me the certificate of your master in language studies

>>22256091
that's why RTK 'tards and retards who tell beginners to read more don't know shit
you need to start with watching anime and listening :) (you can still learn to read just use Jap subtitles)

>>22256072
I'm learning words using the core 2k/6k deck. I'm not trying to learn to "read individual kanji". Those who try to do that are way off base, and I pity their misguided ways. But knowing what reading a given kanji can take (disregarding exceptions), and in what circumstances they tend to take what reading, can make learning vocabulary much easier.

Take for instance 洗面所, where 洗 is read as せん. Knowing this makes it easier to remember 洗濯. At least for me.

丸洗い

>>22256098
i agree with you about this. i wish i started out with listening more, and watching anime and japanese subs, things where i could properly hear the sounds of words, instead of just reading.

>>22256114
you just crippled that kid

>>22256117
and imagine making anime/audio cards while doing that, there is no superior study method and through various debates and reading countless arguments I am convinced about that

why it's 訓 + 訓 reading ezpz

>>22256117
practicing listening is important. Or else you'll end up with some seriously fucked pronounciation.

>>22256109
洗浄
洗脳
洗練
洗車
洗礼

>>22256098
>>22256091
the biggest game changer for a beginner is doing sentence cards. i was reading thru novels like less than one month after starting spanish bcus of all the sentence cards i was making

>>22256154
and how much Japanese do you know by know
my card format is superior to sentence cards in every way

>>22256154
by sentence cards you mean what? adding entire sentences to anki? I use sentences on the back, but adding sentences to the front sounds like a retarded idea.

guys i'm sleeping without a pillow for a week now do you think this affects my retention rate in anki?

>>22256171
I think you'll improve by 69%

>>22256165
Only a Sith deals in absolutes

>>22256175
only a redditor quotes burgermutt pop culture

>>22256178
Only a redditor accuses people of being a redditor

>>22256165
sure i agree but you need to be less blunt about it
hitler didn't get into power by juu talk alone

im tired, pls acquire nihongo for me bros

>>22256171
the percentage affect will change depending on your primary sleeping position

>>22256193
no,
watch more anime

https://youtu.be/OYV__IXF7uo

>>22256191
I don't really care about getting to power I just say what I think is true
if you are the kind of guy who thinks it is going on google images and forvo through anki that is truly revolutionary you never had a chance anyway most people simply don't understand what matters and I don't care to convince them

>>22256201
I don't understand how people have a problem with intonation. Just pronounce the words the way you hear natives pronounce them. Stop being retarded and pronounce them the way you, a forigner, read them.

When is the “Ass Immersion Approach “ section of the animecards.site going to be finished?

does anyone have any recommendations for good wns on syosetsu?

>>22256294
I disagree. When you put sentences on the front, you strengthen the neural pathways for seeing that specific sentence. It is much better to start off with a single vocabulary word on the front, and a sentence with furigana, and an english translation on the back. Which is how the core 2k/6k deck is configured by default.

>>22256306
i've already seen proof that you are wrong from my own experiences so theres no point in talking to you lol

>>22256306
ah yes, i remember when i was just starting out and thought the same thing lol

>>22256303
couldn't last 22 seconds
anime voices should stay in anime

>>22256333
you could just read manga instead breh

>>22256321
>anecdotal evidence = proof
heh

>>22256324
>>22256334
wow, look at all these people trying to defend their inferior study method. It's whatever to me though. It's not my problem that you'll never learn nihongo.

>>22256333
in that case
>read more
will always be better

>>22256219
terrace house is the kind of shit men who paint their nails and have a tumblr account would care to watch

>>22256312
誰かを説得することに興味はない、事実を言っているだけだ
そもそもアンキの中でGoogle画像やForvoを検索できるツールが画期的だなんて思うようなやつなら何を言っても信じてくれないだろう
普通の人は何が大事なのか勘違いしているよ、まったく

>>22256399
i think single-word cards easier to get through quickly, even if they don't aid retention as much.

>>22256393
>>22256400
you replying in English tells me everything I need to know lmao

>>22256408
>easier to
*are easier to

>>22256399
>repetition is good and you're retarded
you get repetition by reading shit and you also get new stuff, which is the balance you need to actually learn. you'll just end up like nukemarine if you keep doing the same shit in anki lol. the most common beginner things you're going to see all the time just by reading anyway.

>>22256364
this is why you do sentence cards, kids
you wouldn't sound half as retarded if you actually knew how those words are commonly used lmao

>>22256413
ok but what do you tell someone who has literally never read japanese even once in their lives? i would tell them to make sentence cards from basic sentence examples in online guides, wish someone would have told me to do that instead of the core deck

>>22256460
bruh several thousand hours of anime is a ton i feel bad for people who wanted to learn japanese and waited that long to actually do it

gonna delete my sentence card deck at the end of this decade

>>22256474
i wasn't waiting for anything while watching all those thousands of hours of english-subbed anime. i just enjoyed the characters, visuals/music, and and the plot. i just so happened to have one day chosen to learn japanese because i happened to have been interested being able to read vns and lns raw.

yeah bring it on quizzler is known for taking criticism well after all

>>22256509
the problem is you think you know more than us anyways so you will just assume we are retards

>>22256501
i'm sure he'd be willing to accept criticism if it was honest, with no intention to offend or ridicule him, and also extremely specific. that is to say, not just saying "this sounds bad", but rather trying to state how you would have said something differently.

>>22256544
lol so you're just another full of shit poster pretending to know more japanese than other people without ever proving it. what a surprise

>>22256553
for some audio files i dont have a full screen option i know theres a way around it but im too lazy i rather it not be full screen anyway

>>22256529
>かを
never seen before this am i crippled

>>22256582
i see i was right

>>22256581
and it should be either corsican or ladino

>>22256581
Chinese English Malay Japanese
which should i pick next?

>>22256629
https://youtu.be/J80QmGT_lEo

>>22256636
はーい！乗せてあげるよ*plops you on my back*

>>22256647
hold down there boi
why would you tell someone to learn latin-lite slav edition that doesn't even have the interesting content or prestige

>>22256684
nothing,
you start watching shoujo like a real man

>>22256739
then of course the radio show will not be of interest to you lol 当たり前じゃん
and its nothing like love live. its magic and comedy

where da fuck did the ipad guy go i wanna know what reader app he uses for manga pdfs, which one is the best someone tell me

>>22256774
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/manga-storm-cbr/id943902063
i haven't personally used this one but it looks good

tricky kanji readings of the day: 窓硝子

>>22256976
easy

jamal you are yourself the kind of guy who never said or can say more than 3 words in one sentence lol and still nothing actually pointed out
you are shit and the pretending is sad

>>22257059
also some1 post the anime godfather quote about 1000 dollars

please

さむい

ねびえして

おきた

ようやくなんかさ
ヤバイじゃん

The only person I know who speaks Japanese at a native level started learning 10 years ago, consumes Japanese media daily, and about 3~4 years ago began communicating exclusively in Japanese (in both voice chat and IRC and so on).

I don't think there's much point in having dickwaving contests on DJT when unless you have that level of dedication with Japanese, or stick exclusively to short simple sentences, you're going to have mistakes in your writing. This isn't something to be shameful about, and it's certainly not something you should mock others for. You can get high levels of comprehension in Japanese fairly quickly, but production lags behind like a mother fucker. You shouldn't think "I learned to read well in 1 year so I need to be fluent by 2 years!" or something. The scale is just too different.

One thing I often find is that westerners who are well known for being fluent in Japanese (like Abroad in Japan) are often actually trash at it, speaking broken and simplistic sentences with an over-reliance on forcing English into Katakana while praying the Japanese person will understand. Even say people married to Japanese people who live in Japan are like this more often then not - they can handle simple conversations, but shit breaks down fast. This isn't their fault per se, getting fluent in Japanese is just that time consuming and difficult.

Anyway, my point here is threefold:
1) Don't be self conscious about sucking at production, because it is a decade long task to have truly native level production and you probably haven't put that much time into it yet.
2) Don't mock others for having bad Japanese (unless they're smug fucks like QM) because everyone will have shit Japanese production for a long period of their lives
3) Sometimes my Japanese native friend posts here and people still try to criticize his production, people on DJT and the internet in general don't believe in "guilty until proven guilty", they approach posts with the mindset of "This person is wrong and I will bring him down" without even realizing how wrong they are themselves. So be more cautious before you mock people if you do in fact choose to be an asshole for no reason, if you're not careful you'll be the fool yourself.

>>22257178
I don't even think he thinks he's fuent.

>>22257165
>and it's certainly not something you should mock others for.
but the only reason people go hard on people like qm is because he's a dick

>>22257173
just because you couldn't do it that doesn't mean others can't
i would happily introduce you to bird guy but he has ascended to a higher plane of learning

>>22257212
yeah imagine not being a loser that lives with your mom and making a living doing something you do what a fag hahahaha

>>22257235
based qm defending lolicon and accepting that 2d =/= 3d

>>22257223
>you say I'm smug on the basis that I say I am better than most people on DJT don't you
No, I mean that you have a smug attitude that makes you easily hateable and thus I can't blame people for wanting to tear you down, as opposed to just a normal person trying to do production but getting unjustly bullied by people who are endless fonts of criticism.

>>22257242
I don't watch any of his videos but I respect what hes done business wise the same as I respect what George has done with his business.
Both of those guys make content for absolute beginners because thats where the majority of the people are at and lets them make more money.

>>22257216
>just because you couldn't do it
you're a retarded person. Not everything in life is about squeezing every last ounce of efficiency out of things. Could I have done it without going through core first? yeah, sure. But it would have sucked. Attitudes like yours is the reason people think learning japanese is hard work, when it can be a fun activity.

>>22257301
sure i agree that realizing you have made improvements in language skill does feel good
but i personally think that since progress is so slow it is better to just forget about language accusation and just enjoy the media in said language, getting good as a natural unpremeditated result

>>22257227
>>>/reddit/
>>>/twitter/

lol sometimes i forget that this thread is in jp

>>22257405
lol don't go to the past few threads if him saying that makes your gears turn

when you tried so hard to be based that you forgot to try to be pure who else knows this feel

>>22257434
i am not him nor am i a lolicon but i am pretty sure the mangaka for made in abyss is one

>>22257467
I am guilty of no crime :)

>>22257462
>made in abyss
seems like being sexually attracted to these is only your problem bro
are you sure your not just coping?

>>22257450
>17 year old anime girl
yea cuz when you talk about cute little girls you mean late teens

>>22257536
>He's not a moeblob

>>22257654
https://www.u-tokyo.ac.jp/content/400031714.pdf
try this then
should be hard to you mr. Adult
it's just stupid schooler stuff

>>22257662
most japanese natives wouldnt be able to pass the toudai entrance exams though

>>22257669
couldn't argue with that
but why would you assume any ESL to be a chink?

>>22257682
because you have a Komica tab open lmfao

>>22257675
it's not even 国語 for 文科, it's for 理科
but my points stands,
middle/high school textbooks set the base line for population's lingual ability

whatever country you're in, your mother tongue knowledge will mostly likely peaked during high school, if you don't further study the language in higher education

and thus, you'll never have lingual ability (be it comprehension or production) on par with japanese general population (in other way, "achieve native level fluency") , if you hadn't gone thru the public Ed textbooks/curriculum

word of the day yall

おとがい

>>22257242
when it comes specifically to japanese ability, no. but overall, of course. he’s actually an amicable, funny person, with real japanese friends.

>>22257858
wtf i want some now

>>22257806
digitally scan the certificate and run it through a noise reduction algorithm (I personally recommend a wavelet-based method) and then export it as a high resolution pdf and then upload it to the thread for optimal viewing.

haha i thought chinks were supposed to be smart

>>22257879
i miss the days when anime had SOUL

>>22257804
let me tell you another N word that sounds closer and totally valid as a sentence/phrase

Nei Ge (Na Ge, 那個)
which is a demonstrative pronoun, just like "that" in english, or "あの・あれ" in japanese

I've also heard about a certain personal pronoun that spells as Niga or Nega in korean,
again a totally valid korean word

>>22257949
have you never watched any anime with 関西弁-speaking characters?

currently at ep110 of ranma i'm still having fun with it
ukyo is best girl

https://twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/1184256716319285249

ahaha preach it matt you're perceptive as fuck

Do you ever read djt and think how pointless and retarded all this arguing is?

>>22257981
i never come to djt to argue about anything. i just come here for anime and vn recs.

holy shit, following all those big oppai nihonjin girls on twitter was a mistake

>>22258033
why didn't you take something like art history/anthropology classes instead?

>>22258056
tits shaped like a fuckin onigiri

>>22258042
good choice. i just opened the website and instantly felt my dopamine spike. thanks to that i couldnt help but look into the vids on my feed.
all i can do now is cry for mommy

Wotd 過越祭

ざけんじゃねーよ! オレは硬派厨だよー

>>22258135
if they've got a placement test, take it and take the highest possible level class you can get
otherwise, if i were you, i'd take a japanese history class or something like that instead.

i wonder if qm really is studying some engineering-related major, or if he's doing some gay linguistics shit like somebody else suggested.

>>22258146
I’m doing some gay shit
was in computer science before but that didn’t really fascinate me so I decided to become a degenerate humanities student doing what I like

If you're taking Japanese classes don't forget to bring your airpods for anime immersion during class.

>>22258156
exactly the opposite of me
i used to be in a philosophy/history double major thing, but quit out of it to get into cs because i got sick of sjws, trannies, the general public's lack of regard for the humanities, the extreme scarcity of humanities-related jobs even for people with phds, and hume's is-ought problem

>>22258173
Holy cringe

>>22258173
just dont get into open source shit, its full of trannies

>>22258183
Fuck off /g/ that's such an over exaggeration

>>22258156
pretty based im a strategic communications major and linguistics (second language acquisition) minor

>imagine not knowing 2+ languages from birth

>quiz the criminal sociologist

imagine not having 2 dads

Why do you idiots recommend watching shounen anime when there is 100 years of japanese films and 50 years of japanese tv shows/documentaries you could ALSO be watching. And they're all better than fucking Young Boy Super Power Fantasty Densetsu vol 49

*skips h scene*

>>22256437
>what do you tell someone who has literally never read japanese even once in their lives?
Read a grammar guide. They all have basic vocab and furigana etc.

>>22258321
most of them are pretty hard to understand without subs

>>22258321
shitty anime are more likely to have japanese subs than good films

>>22256684
Unless you're literally under 18 you should have moved on from shounen.

>>22258321
I Agree!
please hand me over the nip subs for 七人の侍

>>22258378
>>22178905

>>22258362
>>22258361
>>22258398

i learned the kana
where the fuck do i start with kanji? do i need to?.... i just want to read garbage to help my kana memory...

>>22258401
just read easy shit like yotsuba or 吾輩は猫である and learn vocab
could do the VN Core 1250 tango deck and then read some """"""interesting"""" material

>>22258401
https://github.com/wareya/notes/blob/master/etc/kanji.md

>>22258409
>吾輩は猫である
i remember i tried reading that novel back when i was also reading ななついろドロップス, but put it down because it had too many unknown words. i could understand こころ pretty well back then, but 吾輩は猫である felt like it was on a whole other level.

i forgot how funny this show is

>>22258401
100万回生きたねこ

>>22258321
honestly fuck that gay shit

>>22258434
i too have watched that with j subs. awesome show, good choice

>>22258439
hxh is gayer than kurosawa or ozu films

>>22258464
ok, be prepared to become a shtotacon

>>22258442
Yeah I watched it as it aired with english subs. Since another season is coming out next year, I'd like to read the LNs so I thought I'd mine all the words I can from the anime.

>>22258333
i mean ur wrong tho lol getting to a point where you can read things ur interested in faster is more important than reading anything--possibly something you are not interested in

>>22258374
sorry but hxh is better than the vast majority of anime regardless of genre or target demographic. but for most of the other shonen on that list, sure there's more enjoyable stuff.

>>22258464
the first 2 episodes are particularly cheesy. first death happens episode 3. and yes that's a spoiler but i have to make sure you keep watching.
>>22258474
please don't make me cringe.

>>22258586
played eu4 for many hours and it was fun. japanese is for retards lol.

>>22258586
jamal have i ever told u then ur based

also how do u feel about the news learning that u r based

>>22258448
no

>>22258624
qm doesnt wear a dress jamal stop spreading lies

>>22258616
https://streamable.com/vggtl

>>22258618
cs is a mixture of mathematics and programming. qm wouldn't need to know anything but the basics of python or some other programming language for the sake of making stuff he could use along with anime cards.
as strange as it might sound, all of the vectorial calculus and discrete mathematics stuff does kind of grow weary on people who only want to make simple programs.

remind me what was his full name on discord, marrietta, marionette?

>>22258576
i just watched ep 3 and noone died. some guy lost his arms though.

>>22258651
it was censored in the show. in the manga his arms just get cut off. he might not die. censorship persists until the yorknew arc.

i miss meisou gyaru like you wouldnt believe

>>22258659
why so i can 360 slam dunk her face in the fuckin toilet like i did every time she posted? heh ez. that bitch is too scared to rear her ugly tranny head here again.

>>22258659
she still posts here anonymously like here >>22258442

>>22258668
no i dont

>>22256587
>かを
ur a noob ninja if you haven't seen it

>>22256208
許してやろう

>>22256544
even a noob can feel unnatural sentences bro

Otsukaresama desu~

Ashita mo ganbarimasu wa

i figured out why Japan has a shotacon and ugly dude fetish

Cuz they got fucked by Fat Man and Little Boy

>>22258724
LOL

>>22258724
get that from reddit bro?

American "humor"

>>22258749
?

we have some of the best comedians in the world like joe rogan

>>22258799
watch easy anime with japanese subs + yomichan, make some sentence cards with grammar breakdowns as you need them, and ignore jamal

>>22258659
^_^ best wishes

>read 100万回生きたねこ
>cry
wtf bros????

>>22258728
Only one that saw it on reddit was you redditor

wait wtf 銀河英雄伝説 is a novel too?

YOSHI time to read

>>22258824
nah i saw it on discord but it looked like a reddit joke to me

>>22258844
can we meet someone that your strat is working for

>>22258857
not a single damn person lol

>>22258873
can you show us some of your nihongo skills then

oof some 弟子 is trying to下剋上 the paps

the only thing jamal fucked up with his strat is english subs his plan should be called

"watch 500 hours eng subbed anime and 9500 hours raw anime jamals high iq language acquisition strat"

>>22258659
you're the only one

>>22258966
愛されてない苦痛に耐えないね。よしよし

>>22258982
that's true the germans dont have someone like joe rogan

>>22258970

why isnt there link to download books in the new library, is that the part thats a "work in progress"?

>>22259008
try the new, new library on mega

>>22258974
>>22258971
yea thats why im asking you to make your jiko shoukai vid or something so we know your method is legit

>>22258847
discord is for trannies and redditors

>>22259008
>>22259015

>>22259005
>>22259010
what is this from lol

>>22259058

>>22259101
>also i found this page https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/shousetu/shousetulist.html but i dont see where there is a search feature
that's because https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/shousetu/shousetulist.html isn't the new, new library on mega

search the archive for "library mega" and you'll find it

>>22259100
because you're the only success story we have. we need to get the noobs on board with the right method

>>22259063

>>22259121
Can you really call taking 15 years to learn Japanese a "success story"?

>>22259124
considering the vast majority of people never learn it, yea

one day jamal will open up to the truth anki is the best method there is to learn a language

おにいちゃん

おちつきなさい

`糸を死ぬました

my hero academia more like my hero have anemia

what are some good beginner manga that aren't gay slice of life shit like yotsuba and chi's sweet home

You may not like it, but this is what peak Anki cards look like.

>>22259324
no furigana? yikes

>>22259315
pokémon
kirby

>>22259331
Seething Yomichan pleb detected.

>>22259344
you don't use yomichan? damn ur balls must be huge

>住かんと
how the fuck is this read

>>22255936
私の日本語は悪いです。
How do I fix that? I want to learn wapanese.

>>22259387
あなたの日本語能才はめっちゃ上手ですよ！

Where do I find raw manga without giving my computer AIDS or letting the Russians know my bank details?

>>22259395
nyaa.si
the library in OP's link

>>22259392
ああいいえ、日本語を勉強してでも私の日本語はちょっと。。。
Im shit at wapanese.

>>22259387
is looks correct to me

>>22259423
What do you think about
>>22259413
?

>>22259429
not sure i cant read it

>>22259437
:(

What was the word to describe the sight of white panties from an up-skirt angle?

○○餅？

boy do i have a story for you guys.

so in that anime i was watching where that girl walked in on her osananajimi jacking off, one of the characters said the word 即物的. even after reading the jdef i didn’t really get it so today at work i asked two of my super sweet japanese coworkers what it meant. to my surprise, the first one said ええ？？何それ初めて聞いた！ even after showing her the kanji, and the other one said she felt like she’d heard it before, and that maybe it meant ドライ(turned out that was wrong).

after like 10 minutes of googling they ended up just reading me the j def i’d already seen when i searched it at home lmao. and on top of that one of them even misread 事物 as ものごと and didn’t even correct herself!

this is yet another instance of japanese people not knowing things we learners assume they do. things some of you on djt might call “baby words”, or that people like quizmaster would shit on people for not knowing because “it’s used in anime so every native must know it”, there is actually a chance that some nihonjin really just don’t know it.

so like the other guy said, chill out and stop assuming that knowing every single word (or kanji) = knowing japanese. outside of most of whatever is in N5 to N1, you really can’t be sure what japanese adults know unless you ask them.

to append the part about JLPT contents before someone starts screaming, i know native adults definitely know much more than what is on the JLPT. my point is just that as a foreigner, you do not know exactly what that “much more” contains and you can’t assume everything you see in an anime or novel will fall into that category.

>>22259522
i know what you are getting at but all the dekirus already knew that. in fact we actually laugh out loud every time qm tries to show off itt
keep that in mind

btw i'll never forgive tae kim for crippling me on the てみる pattern

>>22259413
>日本語を勉強してでも
＞してでも
Someone better than me can correct me if I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure that's wrong.
日本語を勉強しているけど、まだまだです
まだ日本語を勉強中です
or something like that.

>>22259568
What's wrong with it?

>>22255936
Could someone tell me where I can get the offline version of DoJG please? This version :
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojgmain.html
I have limited internet access these days so that'd be very convenient to have.

>>22257416
sounds like a good tattoo

wotd: 因果

Just learned via context during the VN i am reading what Nukige meant.

LETS GO

>>22259985
グッジョブ

全身全霊を賭して日本語身につけてるんだ

>>22260013
すごーい

おにいちゃんはできるよ

>>22258398
bless your soul, it's there!
i've been look for that for a while, i'll download it once i the day ends

>>22258428
you think you're joking but that's how i learned kana, first by nuke's series and then by playing hisoutensoku and trying to read every in between the fights

someone needs to clarify how 状 has two different meanings

>>22260090
　賞
症状態
　況

>>22259834
maybe this is what you're looking for
https://core6000.neocities.org/dojg/

>>22259834
It's in the site backup.

>>22259522
the mistake you're making here is thinking it's reasonable to compare yourself to a random native woman who only reads her instagram feed. noone gives a fuck whether or not dumb natives can't read and you shouldn't be holding them up as your standard if you want to be able to read difficult material

>>22260067
(he wasn't joking)

>>22259550
describing yourself as a dekiru is the best way to out yourself as a faker

just cut an apple and the juice got into my eyes
hurts a bit

oof another one bites the dust

>>22259386

>>22260213
ケータイ

形態ちがう

>>22260152
>the mistake you're making here is thinking it's reasonable to compare yourself to a random native woman who only reads her instagram feed
one of them is in her late 30's with kids. the other is in her 50's and is an avid reader. the younger one has LINE and no other social media not even facebook, the other still uses a flip phone. once again you make yourself look like a complete asshole and dumbass all in one by assuming things you don't know lol. congrats.

>>22260333
小悪魔 trips

>>22260333
you're missing the point. it doesn't matter how good natives are, or what mistakes they make. it only matters how good you are. you can find a lot of natives in america who are absolutely garbage at english (like your president) but that doesn't mean im not gonna make fun of an eop for making the same mistakes and you shouldn't let yourself off for being shit at japanese

you know someone sucks at English when they think eop means monolingual English speaker

meant esl not eop btw

ok good

no i'm actually just gei

痛快

>>22260355
i can tell you're one of the people who like to shit on others about japanese to make yourself feel better about your tiny dick and/or other insecurities lol
didn't read all that by the way

無条件の愛がほしい

ゼクス

>>22260433
very convenient 4 u to not have to actually make a point

>>22260434
まず自分自身を愛してあげてください。

Stop fighting

いずれ生き字引になる
ZETTAI!!!!

I don’t care what natives know or don’t know, I’m not learning to be a native but to have complete and precise understanding of whatever I decide to read/watch and that requires having a well sized vocabulary
why would I use some bitch who has probably never read a book in her life as the basis for my language learning goals
or are you one of those stupid redditors that comes on /jp/ and then starts spouting stupid shit like “it doesn’t matter how much you can read and how many kanji you know, only thing that matters is how fluently you talk to natives about the weather” when nobody sensible here actually gives a single shit about that? why is it so hard for you to understand there are people who learn Japanese NOT to converse with Japanese people (which is fucking boring) but to consume Japanese media and literature?

>>22260467
do you even know what a blog post is retard

>>22260470
>retard
: (

>>22260470
yeah, all that shit you just typed

>>22260466
奔放なQMは頭を悩ます頭痛の種

>>22260479
>i'm gonna be real with you, you didn't make a single good point
that's not an argument lol u obv dont have any way of addressing what i said

>>22260479
I don’t care about what natives know in terms of limiting what I will learn because natives don’t know something
telling someone they suck because they don’t know something so common every single native would never make a mistake like that is completely different

recently started lurking and trying to get into the language and seeing all of you faggots being faggots somehow motivates me

>>22260491
>that's not an argument
why would i argue with someone making zero relevant points to the original post? you already proved you can't read objectively
>>22260494
>I don’t care about what natives know in terms of limiting what I will learn
good thing i never said anything about limiting what you learn.... you can learn whatever you want buddy just stop pretending that everyone else needs to know everything you personally chose to learn or else they'll never be even decent at japanese because according to you "every native knows THAT" and "no native would ever miss THAT!"
>something so common every single native would never make a mistake
you're doing it again quizzler

what the fuck does 嫌気が差す literally mean?
fed up comes out?

>>22260510
>why would i argue with someone making zero relevant points to the original post? you already proved you can't read objectively
the relevant point is you shouldn't care what natives do or do not know. can you explain why we should care what natives do or do not know, or whether or not they make mistakes? what's contentious about this? bear in mind there are many natives (like your president) who suck at their native language

https://youtu.be/kRafxBsLoYw?t=303

knowing what the average native knows is a good benchmark for noobs to mezasu @

of course the pros are expected to reach a 道力 of a well-read native

>>22260516
>the relevant point is you shouldn't care what natives do or do not know
silly you. it is obviously good to have a reasonable, approximate idea about what parts of the language are regularly used and understood by natives. my whole point is that you and your comrades on the daily japaneez sureddo absolutely love calling things "common" or "baby level" that are actually not, mocking people for small mistakes that some natives even make, and just overall being dicks about the language learning process in general while painting a absurd image of what comprises a decent level of japanese knowledge and, literally in your own words, "what natives know".

now when you're called out on it you're trying to flip it around to claim that what natives truly know doesn't matter anyway, in attempt to excuse your own history of assumptions and ill-intentioned/inaccurate criticisms. i have to laugh.

>>22259916
orientals were very bad at art compared to westerners for like 900 years.

>>22260568
never once said anything except "natives are shit at japanese and shouldnt be considered". you're the one making assumptions. the only thing that matters is whether you can read shit or not, and let's be honest most natives aren't able to read shit like mareni without crying and do you really want to be that garbage that you cant enjoy a simple erotic visual game?

an*

is 周 the counter for how many times you played a game?

>>22260591
Yes

https://twitter.com/Russwarne/status/1184374037910179841

I quit Japanese. Now I know for a fact it can never work out.

>>22260621
please delete this

>>22260621
haha get rektd brainlets

>>22260649
rude.

>>22260434
あいはギブアンドテイク

たぶんあのんがほしいのは

こい

effort is more important than intelligence, so don't worry brainlets ganbare

imma be manzoku once i get a 500 文字 per fun

does anyone here know any resources or books related to classical japanese traditional music? i'm interested in gagaku, but everything that address traditional music it's ok

are these really the chosen peeps?

>>22260729
this seems inversely correlated with IQ

>>22260748
brazil and mexico including?

>>22260729
reading what, their facebook feed? i refuse to believe this is talking about sitting down with books

>>22260751
nah nevermind i see high IQ countries all over the place in that.

>>22260748
it's correlated with average working hours

which isekai ln should i read

>>22260776
no idea

>>22260776
Mushoku tensei, overlord, slime, or konosuba

>>22260782
making sweeping statements about entire genres is the mark of a major brainlet

yea this is how i feel about people who insult shonen.

>>22260501
こう見えても家族思いいいやつばかりの縄張りだ

>>22260817
fma:b is boring.

>>22260817
You're supposed to read the manga not watch a tv show

>>22260817
since*

>>22260822
i only read nukige my dude

>>22260818
>nihongo fantasyland the post
imagine reading qms digital telegrams

>>22260836
>hentai games we play
good thing all the nukige i've played so far didn't take place in schools

daily reminder to take breaks from time to time during a long fapping day
i've met a medical student recently that told me that blood clogs can form when you keep a hardon for too long
he said they can form after the 3h mark
(btw we were talking about viagra)

>>22260881
>What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that forgets them and treats them like trash?! I'll tell you what you get...

You get dick blood clots.

yoshi time to close out distractions and mine enough words to get me through a few weeks of reps!

https://twitter.com/haluxo_/status/1183892213031301121

As a callback to a prior conversation, just saw this tweet that's literally a compilation of a youtuber misreading shit.

I feel like I'm getting better at Japanese

>>22261023
I hope you are.

>>22260987
no way she didn't know 掠る
that shit is used so often in black lilith games

>>22260987
yea and they made a vid cuz it's funny that she's shit. you dont want people making vids of your epic fails do you?

stfu losers im here to finally shoot up this place

bro u cant say that

>>22261055
My Japanese friend who's into eroge has repeatedly said that eroge writers tend to write on a higher vocabulary level than a lot of print authors, maybe due to no publisher getting in the way.
>>22261061
Honestly if I were a Japanese user with a Japanese following I wouldn't really care if they laughed at me misreading some things.

not even jamal can save you from me and my crew

>>22261189
an averagely educated english speaker would have no problem with reading that though, so what point are you trying to make exactly

>>22261197
aaaaaaaah i told you shes kinky
みさちゃん、おれのちんぽさわってください

tfw youll never have kinky fun with misa while being crushed by pokemons
its fucking over i quit japanese guys

tfw you've literally already seen most of sadpanda

>>22261188
shit i'm fucked

>>22261251
90% of women like being dominated in some fashion you dumb virgin

>know enough kanji to make a pronunciation guess on a random new Kanji

>>22261341
im gonna dominate your ass soon fucking faggot

>>22261345
i'm just imagining you looking at some random hyogai kanji no one ever uses with obscure unused radicals and thinking "yeah i totally know how this reads and what it means"

word of the day: 休載

>>22261461
rekt dumb cow

tfw no cow gf

>>22261461
gayest thing ive seen this week and i jerked off to gay porn yesterday

>>22261558
it's prolly gay

>>22261558
idk what kind of answer u expect me to give but it feels the same as jerking off to women

thats a lie

just learnt that if you have a girlfriend she lets you play with her titties wtf bros you told me 2d is better than 3d...

>>22261671
1) there will never be such a 3d girl for you
2) not all women would allow a man to play around with her breasts
3) not all women have a nice pair of breasts

>>22261671
wtf is this really true

>>22261721
in some cases it is, but getting a girlfriend is much more diffficult than asking your girlfriend to allow you to touch her tits.

last time i played with girls tits was when i was 13yo

>>22261738
for me it was never.
i'm a permcel

i just mined 求める, how does that make you feel

at least mine something a level above that like 新天地

>>22261776
>新天地
isnt that kind of self explanatory just from the kanji

>>22261782
yea but i still mined it because the middle kanji made me actually look it up

>>22261764
have you been reading for less than 2 months?

>>22261678
>there will never be such a 3d girl for you
why not, i’m handsome

a toast for all my handsome boys out there

>>22261839
just trying to shitpost the suffering away

>>22261678
>not all women would allow a man to play around with her breasts
yea then she's getting her ass kicked

>>22261831
imagine actually storing a random sequence of bits that make up this picture locally on your hard drive

>>22261812
no

>>22261648
ye. bicurious is more apt if u believe in that sort of thing. i've never been attracted to a dude irl and i have no idea if my dick would even work if i were in a sexual situation so idk

>>22261861
no i dont have any interest in being fucked in the ass, id be the one doing the fucking as it were

>>22259862
https://hinative.com/ja/questions/1242171
You could argue how natural the phrase is as omitting the particle may be common, but it appears to be in line with this native speaker.

>>22261855
whats random about it

i know you guys hate everything thats not reading or watching anime but hellotalk seems cool, whats the catch

>>22261935
yeah even my japanese friends in real life would constantly change the topic to english grammar shit really annoying

>>22261925
most people here would just cripple themselves with trash production by using it anyways

>>22261986
but you agree it would be good for someone with a well trained ear like qm

>>22261991
sure why not, you need to talk to japs if you want to learn to speak japanese urself

thinking about making the switch from sentence cards to vocab/anime cards anon here

one thing i really like about sentence cards is it forces me to read things like names, when otherwise the audio or furigana would tell it to me without me trying to read it. what do you guys think about this

>>22261991
he's already tried chatting with japanese people, and has posted screenshots of it too.

I got tired of not knowing sexual slang and have been compiling a list to study. Is this peak learning right here?

>>22262002
Whatever helps you man, people learn in different ways.

this is 十数+時間, not 十+数時間 right?

>>22262004
no, peak learning would be to just read the doujins and eroges and pick shit up from there

>>22262002
it doesn't matter what cards you do as long as you stick to it over a long period of time and get lots of input aside from flashtarding
just do the ones that you would enjoy reviewing more

>>22261899
wait, jamal is a 女? this fucking changes everything about the /djt/ lore...

>>22262002
well if you read books or anything non-voiced you'd have to read names so when you get to that you'll get plenty of practice

>>22260987
this girl is just a baka

i've linked one of her videos here before: https://youtu.be/AbN-U-zmHT0?t=535

what is a good entry level VN, I see the recommended VN chart on itazuraneko but I dont see any difficulty ratings

>>22262174
muramasa

#血液クレンジング is trending on twitter, are these niggas into some voodoo shit or what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrUp0YU11BE&feature=youtu.be
post more sad shit like this

>>22262174
check the 3rd or 4th vn chart, or the vn stats page at wareya.moe
alternatively, look for jamal's chart on the warosu archive

>>22262177
wow thank you! everyone here is so kind and helpful i will go download it right now :) faggot

>>22262185
AAAAAAAAAAA

>>22262186
alright thanks

>>22262174
ラムネ

I can't take it anymore
Almost three years of plowing through core 6k with little to no effect, looking at highly condensed moonspeak right now makes me sick
What seemed like 20 minutes per day to get my reviews done now drags endlessly
I'm afraid of adding new words and decks because those little green numbers rising even slightly above hundred scare the shit out of me
I can't seem to focus any longer

>>22262174

>>22262199
are you talking about this one?
i didn't really like these girls' thighs, but whatever.

>>22262208
lol such a fake probably thats so easy to fix. dont cry when theres people like me that have real problems that prevent me from learning language like being addicted to 4chan, twitter and reddit

>>22262208
just consume more compelling content that you can 抜く off to.

>>22262214
https://vndb.org/v1506

>>22262226
>no loli heroine
gonna ignore that one

>>22262232
that still leaves you with one other option

>>22262232
it's about as good as vns get when the only other work of fiction you've read so far in japanese is よつばと！or kancolle h-doujin manga, and wanna get through something quickly that'll make you feel some sense of accomplishment (like - "yo, reading in japanese isn't actually that difficult" kind of feel).

>>22262011
this but
>>22262004
if you're like me and can't look stuff up while horny then use sharex to quickly screenshot the panels containing words you don't know then look them up after you've already expelled ur ejaculatory fluids

like this

>>22262243

why does jamals like cummunicating in english more then japanese is it something inherently special about english

>>22262248
i found ななついろドロップス to be easier to install than flyable heart, which is why i stuck to that one for quite a while.

>>22262275
the internet is cooler in english

>>22262275
japanese doesn't have cool words like "nigga" or "fag".

>>22262248
are those condoms? wtf
why would a japanese 学生 be bringing those with her, except for the sake of exchanging services for money with old men?

>>22262269
>マンコ
I RECOGNIZED THIS! LETS GOOOOOOOOO

>>22262298
she is 没収ing them from her brother who was trying to give them to the protagonist so protagonist-kun could get it on with his sister

i want to be friends with anime godfather

>>22262290
>japanese doesn't have cool words like.黒ん坊 or オカマ

get good pajeet

>>22262327
>オカマ
don't forget ネカマ

https://streamable.com/gsxpf

>>22262269
that 濡 looks fucked up

How the fuck do japanese learn how to write words? That shit is impossible I swear

>>22262411
they go to school like everyone else

>>22262411
strokes down and to the right, it's not that bad once you get the hang of it