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>german telecom users can buy the Miku expo tickets 48 early
YOU'VE GOT TO BE FUCKING SHITTING ME
FUCK THOSE JEWISH TRICKS
I SWEAR TO GOD IF CAN'T BUY PREMIUM TICKETS I MIGHT ACTUALLY GO INSANE

My wife Una is so cute

>>22138332
Una is perfection.

>>22138573
Her hat is dumb

>>22138332
eel eel eel eel eel eel eel eel

>>22138726
eat my ass retard

>>22137546
Part of me hopes I'm not able to get VIP tickets for the cities I want so I don't have to go...
Too soon after MM

>>22138809
MM > Expo for the expo part and Expo > MM for the songs though, when was the last time Secret Police was even played at MM?

>>22139111
>Expo > MM for the songs
Nah. Never been the case and never will. Expo is just MM scraps.

>>22139181
paris expo's setlist was on par with MM

>>22139232
Yeah and it was almost all scraps.

>>22139181
MM is focused on new songs hence only 40% of the setlist is the more famous songs whereas Expo is for ignorant gaijin so it's got a lot more of the big hitters from the entire decade

miku tiddy?

>>22139384
>Expo is for ignorant gaijin so it's got a lot more of the same old boring songs we've heard a million times by now.
Fixed that for you.

>>22139111
MM is better for everything but if you’re less than 200 miles away from an Expo show, might as well go. Concert is still fun anyways.

>>22139418
Miku booty that triggers the jp janitor(he does it for free)

For the german anons
You can prepurchase tickets on ticketmaster already
I already bought my ticket in the golden circle
I can't wait to enjoy the Expo with you fags

>>22141278
You can also prepurchase London as well apparently.

>>22141278
>90 Euros for a spot in the middle
what the fuck, is this considered normal?

>>22141698
Not really, probably due to the current volatile economy

>>22137337
Miku should be a pornstar instead of a singer

>>22142893
I wish the guys who make all the overwatch and what ever other sfm videos would do vocaloid videos.

who's your favorite PV visual artist?

>>22143340
Tama makes some great art and PVs

>>22143828
Nah that's just Rin giving Yukari a home visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uiKC1P7__U

So what is the OBJECTIVELY best song featuring Luka?

>>22144055
Stardust Utopia

post your wallpapers

>>22144221

>>22143340
Terada Tera.

>>22144221

>>22144760
Transgender is a disease. Get help.

>>22144953
Why don’t you use that energy more productively and direct it to something actually disgusting like an ebooks account run by a real tranny?

>>22144953
I like how this image causes so much butthurt. Stay mad faggot.

>>22144983
this
Those 40% don't come from nowhere, do your part!

>>22145012
Yeah I'm so mad that I'm not attracted to guys

>>22145035
>I'm not attracted to girls
>I swear I not a faggot

>>22145053
I'm only attracted to biological girls, not """girls"""

>>22145084
>I'm only attracted to 3dpd not pure waifus
Is this what you are saying? Leave. Faggot in denial.

Some of you really can't catch a break here... let the dude and the janny he's friends with seethe in peace.

>>22145112
Not at all what I said but sure thing pal

>>22145347
>biological

>>22141278
>>22137546
I got my golden circle ticket too but I think this is a seriously shitty move from mikuexpo or whoever is responsible. Paying 180 Euros for a standing place at a first-come-first-serve basis also leaves a bitter aftertaste.

>>22137546
honestly germany's crowd last year was so terrible its probably a good thing i can't go

also where the fuck are the tickets

>>22146521
>germany's crowd last year was so terrible
Can you elaborate? I was gonna go too but didn't. What did I miss?

>>22143340
Tera of course.

>>22146521
That's what I heard, Germany seems to have had the worst experience out of the 3 locations

Amsterdam VIP get

Got VIP for London and Amsterdam even if they're just glorified general entry tickets. At least I can get relatively close to the stage with this, although merchandise might be a pain to deal with

Miku-chan!

>>22146521
you can buy the tickets already
I got my golden circle ticket early from ticketmaster

https://twitter.com/Taito_Toys/status/1177524738421182464

Oh fuck...

Is the anon who was looking for 2038 still around?

my wallpaper

>>22147853
no, they died last night

>>22146549
It's probably that the crowd is the most awkward and boring people, knowing Germans

>>22148553
I'm going on German conventions regularly (Dokomi, Connichi) and the people are great to be around, it's easy to smalltalk and there are barely any kids. Not comparable to conventions in my shithole (Poland) where people build mountains out of shit in the toilets and destroy the building. If the same people go to the expo, I can't imagine it to be bad people wise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCEkDB9N3lo

>Vocaloid and Touhou are dying
>there is nothing good enough to replace them

>>22143340
Manbo's sister!

>>22143340
NEGI all the way

>>22148725
you sure you want it to get big? Look what happened to anime

>>22146549
The crowd was a weird mix of lukewarm/very reserved reactions and hype. It felt like some people, especially in the VIP seats were forced to attend, they sat almost the whole time in complete silence with a bored face and barely moved. Even some of the ones standing with glowsticks seemed kind of unmotivated, sometimes the camara would pan to them and you could see it on the two big displays next to the stage. Personally I think some very casual fans attended and just didn't knew the songs and/or only came to see what the holographs look like.
That's why forcing the majority to stand this year might not be such a bad idea in terms of crowd energy.

>>22149039
Vocaloid is already big and plenty popular with surface level weebs, though. In fact it's notorious for it's naruto-tier teen fangirls, have you never checked the wiki's or youtube's comment sections?
>>22148725
Both still seem very alive to me with giant communities and a shitload of regular new content.

>>22149199
reminds me of

>>22149274
I'd rather have that than moralfags who get mad whenever someone "sexualizes" Rin/Len or other "underage vocaloids."

>>22149303
How about a new type of cancer?

>>22149324
Is this real?

>>22149331
https://utau.fandom.com/wiki/Teto_Kasane

>>22149361
>This subject has been fully locked. Only administrators and moderators can edit the contents.
Just why?

>>22149324
What in the what?

>>22148383
Damn. That sucks. I was too slow.

>>22149324
Wait, which are you pointing out? The chimera part or the pronouns? Because VIPPA has always had her as a chimera

>>22149623
He's talking about pronouns of course.

>>22149623
>The chimera part or the pronouns?
Guess

not that Chimera as a sex makes any more sense either. Is Ted the same sex too then?

>>22149702
>>22149714
Oh, well, I mean I guess

Damn that noodle Miku fig was a bad mistake. I paid 40 for it and she is made in China....................

>>22149083
>they sat almost the whole time in complete silence with a bored face and barely moved
I had this in London's sitting VIP, literally no one chanting and the whales in front of me barely did anything during the concert despite wearing having vocaloid t shirts that could barely contain their bulging fat. Seems kind of baffling to spend so much money on VIP if you don't care that much

I heard that Germany had a lot of families or people attending out of the sheer novelty of it being a hologram concert

>>22149746
Of course it was made in China. No one expected it to possibly be made anywhere else.

>>22138726
What's with loliloids and weird headgear?

>>22149976
I mean I knew it was made in China. What I meant is I thought the quality would be tolerable, but it's really not. I have multiple paint smudges and basic QC issues.

>>22150011
they're too short

>>22150011
Handlebars for holding on to

>>22150050
kiritan's got knives up there, i hope you don't value your hands

>>22150057
You'd be grabbing them from the safe edge so it's fine

>>22150011
self defence mechanism

Best Kaito outfit.

>>22150453
That's objectively true. I wish the artist would have included his shoes.

>>22149324
Teto has always been 31.

>>22150040
Well yeah it's a prize figure

>>22150011

Aside Kiritan and Una which other loliloids do you mean? There aren't many others and Yuki is normal.

>>22151683
Rana.

>>22152142
Cute wholoid.

>>22152142

Shit he got me

Kittaaaaaa!
Who else got their tickets already?

>>22147853
No I'm still here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-IACZZgke4

>>22152807
Here you go then anon! It's on mega, just add the usual mega url before this ||#!4Ux0nKIA!FK2YZScm4mE2JXRW6eca1aOxtSwoS5IsRS5yJb_Kb3U||

Please come back and tell me what you thought of it! I really liked it.

>>22149303
I haven't seen this too much with Vocaloid thankfully since you basically can't be a Vocaloid fan without running into lewd songs relatively often (very often in Len's case)

>>22148725
It's too late now. Even if Vocaloid does die, there's easily enough content out there right now that you could be a Vocaloid fan forever just based on what's already released, which is really great

>>22152632
Me too. I'm surprised how quickly they arrived. See you in the golden pit!

>>22154002
I don't think those songs are stopping moralfags, they just consider them 'part of the problematic side of the Vocaloid community'.
You can find plenty of those sorts of fans on Tumblr and the wiki. Oh god, the wiki...

>>22154070
I get what you're saying, I just meant it gets harder to ignore and try playing it off as "just some problematic people" when there are lewd songs playing even on the live concerts. Cognitive dissonance can only do so much before you stop and go look for another fandom

>>22154002

>>22154243
To be fair what little I know of the western vocaloid fandom is that Hatsu-P is considered a pariah over there. IDK what his deal is, but everyone hates them.

Also what's that hentai miku from? Looks hot

>>22154243
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Marionette/Hatsu-P
Lmao

>>22154243
Yeah that just looks like mental illness, or some serious sexual repression

>>22154243
He is right though. Nothing wrong with protecting your waifu.
The real problem are people who are like "do not sexualize her, she is underage. this is creepy yada yada".

>>22154479
What he's doing is fucking retarded. Waifufags don't own the whole concept of their waifu. Their 'waifu' is just their own personal interpretation of the character. Everyone has their own Miku. Deciding to waifu your Miku doesn't give you any sort of right to control everyone else's Mikus. Can you imagine how insane these threads would be if everyone tried to 'protect their waifu/husbando'?

>>22154479
I think attacking people for either is still pretty bad though

But the "underage drawing" thing is hilarious, definitely. People could just start making all their shotas and lolis "18 years old" and that would defeat any of these arguments without changing a thing.

>>22154479
>>22154532

>>22154532
>>22154544
Yes he is pretty retarded, but he is not the problem.
He is just sperging about something he is passionate about, not some normie who comes to vocaloid community and tries to project normalfag morality onto others. He is kind of "too much" into all of this, rather than too little to be disconnected with this subculture and reacting with disgust to what is unfamiliar to them. Maybe calling him right was not best word, more like he is understandable or relatable.

>>22154243
>tfw I actually knew someone like this
Literally wished death on people who post or draw lewds of Miku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThPy4HLcYI

>>22155374
Very nice, probably the best Len song I've heard this year. Great song and tuning is on point.

>>22154479
Loli and Shota should be allowed because every society should have a place for the fucking weirdos in its midst.
That said, you gotta admit it's pretty creepy to actively make your characters be and look underage and then want to fuck them.
Nothing wrong with being creepy, the cake sitting people are creepy, but it is nonetheless.

>>22155374
Lit

>>22152632
>>22154029
>golden circle Berlin
Great to see you anons, I'll likely be cosplaying Miku in a white nightgown and a spring on her head, always open for a hug. Wish I ever meet anyone from here even if it's just for a few seconds.

>>22156629
You a girl?

>>22156629
i can't wait to block everyones views
cuz im a big guy

>>22148725
Perpetual sunset.

>>22156409
>That said, you gotta admit it's pretty creepy to actively make your characters be and look underage and then want to fuck them.
It's not more creepy than doing it with adult characters. Just because you are not a lolicon, doesn't mean it's bad or creepy. I might find it weird to sexualize MILFs or furry. All these are just fetishes and they will always appear weird to someone who is not into them.
Also talking about underage in context of anime is retarded. We have laws that forbids to have sex with people below 18-14yo(depending on country) are to protect children. You gain nothing protecting a virtual child, or virtual 500yo loli demon or a never aging loli robot. It no longer makes any sense.

IA show at 6:10:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMLc71zCfJs

>>22156777
>>22157109
Sadly, yeah. Don't crush my 158cm desu

>>22153372
As usual i love every song. AvtechNO is definitely one of my favorite producers. Thank you so much for sharing this Anon! I couldn't find it online or buy it anywhere.

Hello /jp/

>>22159198
Why is /pol/ so obsessed with trannies?

>>22159233
I've noticed too, but I assumed it's a response to Twitter claiming Miku as an LGBT ally.

>>22158403
I didn't say it was immoral or bad. I said it was creepy. And yeah it is creepy that people actively foster fantasies of fucking kids. I know they're not gonna do it! That's not even a worry in my mind. Still creepy tho (and creepy things should never be forbidden so you didn't have to bring out your speech about protecting fictional characters blah blah blah)

Is LamazeP a lolicon?

>>22156629
Be careful with cosplay and only use something low value you would be very comfortable in. It might break and it gets quite warm in the concert hall. I'll mostly wear merch from the last Expo but if we meet you can stand before me because I'm a big gal too.

>>22159381
He may be, or he's just joking around.

>>22148725
It will only die if you let it die.

>>22159198
hi

https://youtu.be/o5go3Es8gA8
I really like this cover, more than original I think

>>22159198
I think according to some part of the CFM's license related to what you are allowed to do with the character of Miku you are not allowed to use her for political movements or agitation. I guess logically that would include social justice movements or gender politics as well.

So Miku is not related to or associated with: LGBT rights, Nazism, racism, right wing/left wing ideologies, ideologies or any shit of that kind.

That being said, I am a racist homophobe and Miku is married to me so that picture isn't something I would call inaccurate.

>>22160120
Good thing she's cucking you with me

>>22159198
But Vocaloid producers themselves are trannies.

>>22160120

>>22160511
Dis Oster Project turn out to be trans or what was the deal there?

>>22160764
I read it in an interview with KurageP from two years ago.
http://vgperson.com/vocalinterview.php?view=kuragenatalie

>Q. Lastly, what kind of entity is Hatsune Miku to you?

>A. My own self. Many Vocaloid producers start singing for themselves later on, but fundamentally, they're "singer-songwriters who don't sing." They configure the voice themselves, so it's effectively their own singing. As such, I think all the Vocaloids I own, including Miku, are part of myself. The illustrations are like my avatars.

>Q. Ahh, I see.

>A. This might sound a little weird, but having Vocaloids sing, putting Vocaloid characters in videos, and as I mentioned earlier, saying things I didn't realize I wanted to say... Doing that, it feels like I've become a Vocaloid myself. I think boys who draw pretty girls might understand this feeling too. Apparently someone once asked Takami Akai-san of Gainax, who also appeared in Aoi Honoo, "Do you draw girls because you want to be a girl?" and he replied "You might be right." There's a Vocaloid producer named Carlos Hakamada-san (Saize-P) who draws his own illustrations, and when I asked "Since you draw them so much, do you ever feel like you are Hatsune Miku or Otomachi Una?", he also replied "Totally." (laughs)

>>22160336
You wish, buddy.

>>22160737
Oh wow is that me? Very accurate depiction.

>>22160764
Pretty sure Oster is just a lesbian.

>>22160816
That is so gay. But not surprising

>>22160816
>>22161149
There's nothing wrong with deeply resonating with your own work.

>>22161230
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it anon

New LamazeP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gST3woiTD5I

>>22161614
That was a fast break

>>22161614
HE LIVES

>>22161614
His art's gotten worse, sadly

>>22162245
He started drawing very chibi and cutesy a while ago and it seems to have distorted his proportions a lot

With the recent song contest, another round of a free Miku v4 demo got released. If you ever wanted to try it, now is the chance!

>>22162681
Or you could just go pokaloid

>>22162751
enjoy your laggy malware you swine

>>22162978
>laggy malware
proofs?

>>22162978
Really? Here of all fucking places? This is where you draw the line? Jesus fucking christ.

vocal

Code Vein has really nice character creator

>>22164467
this is the only nice thing in this game

>>22163407
There's no proof, it works great (the one from kitsune neo).

IA is cute

>>22161614
>lamazeP is finally back
>released new song on my birthday
Best present

So how old is IA? What kind of panties does she wear?

>>22164680
Black. I checked.

New Miku song by kinoshita.
https://youtu.be/SAcf7FJbOtM

>>22163407
Back in 2011 or earlier I got it off thepiratebay and despite good comments and uploader history it came with trojans and whatever that malware is that opens slides and pop-ups that go over your whole display no matter what you do on your PC. And when I tried to open voicebanks, half of them made the editor freeze and force-close.
Other than that, I don't think you have any right to complain that "vocaloid is dying" (if you do) when you're pirating from the ones that are supposed to update it.

>>22164467
waiting for it to be cracked so i can recreate len

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FCb7p86Ado

>>22160737

>>22165672
Hehe

https://twitter.com/GamoTwo/status/1178676277391216640
thats over $600 + shipping though it is to be expected. If everything is well I'll buy it on the second wave of preorders. This looks so much better than the Hori controller.

>>22166028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4-2GEq-xp0&t=0s

>>22165672
I'm a neo-nazi actually, thanks.

>>22164786
Much better than Lamaze's new song.

>>22164786
I prefer his Una songs but still nice.

>>22166028
That's slightly less than it cost for me to make the controller from scratch. The only thing missing being the LED effect on the touch strip and the small form factor

>>22165672
Reminder that vocaloids are approved by the CPC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQ-tbd8aJY

>>22166734
By the what?

what do you guys think of miku cosplayers?

>>22166734
*luo tiyani and vsinger are state sponsored.
Support Quadiminsion instead

>>22167214
They're okay.
Although I prefer Luka.

>>22165672
https://twitter.com/tenne_luna/status/1135167091458412544

How the fuck did this thread get so /pol/itical?

>>22167413
more like whole site

>>22167210
Communist Party of China.

>>22167413
because most of the actual vocaloid fans have gone to discord so there's mostly just trolls and shitposters left here

>>22167473
>>22167499
Both are true.

>>22166734
I always thought that if Hitler were alive he would approve of Rin. She is the Aryan dream.

>>22167663
But shes underaged, Anon.

>>22167866
kill yourself

>>22167866
But Hitler loved children too. It's literally the basis for 14/88. His fourteen words: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children," Rin definitely falls under that. Also. 14 words. Rin is 14. Coincidence? I think not.

We must protect Rin. 14/88 Hail Hitler.

>>22167973
Rin is a mature 14-year-old woman, not a child.

>>22168005
Then the lesser used version of the famous 14 words applies: "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth." Look it up. The beauty of Rin Kagamine must not perish from the earth. Also Lily.

Fuck her brother tho. He's a fag.

>>22168066
>Fuck her brother tho
Gladly, no need to say it twice

>>22167663
If Rin is the Aryan dream, Len is the Aryan dream with a penis which makes him better

>>22167405
ok retard

>>22168073
Len isn't so bad. If only he could find his manhood and get with a nice Aryan woman, preferably NOT his sister, he can begin making Aryan babies for the state. And you are free to fuck him also if you would like to. As long as you are a healthy Aryan woman. But most likely you are a degenerate.

>>22168195
>Tumblr
>complains about degenerates

No matter which Vocaloid you like, one thing is undeniable: Kagamine fans are the absolute worst.

>>22168328
Why though?

>>22168328
Mikufags are the worst though, since it includes both secondaries and people who think Miku's voicebank is actually good.

>>22168328
It's actually Kaito fans deluding themselves into thinking he is good or relevant.

len and rin are androids and do not have race

>>22167413
After the "woke" people of twitter went after KikuoP, it should be obvious political neutrality is not a luxury we can afford.

.....that said, Megumi Nakajima (and by extension Gumi) is half-Filipino. So she physically can't be part of any kind of nation-state. So uh, have fun everyone else I guess.

>>22169067
>it should be obvious political neutrality is not a luxury we can afford.
imagine unironically typing this out.

>>22167405
didn't read lol

>>22167405
Ion rlly care if ppl edit my art

The day of reckoning is almost upon us.
Let’s reminisce in the meantime.
https://youtu.be/cD9g128sOW4
https://youtu.be/60ygccP9ig8

>>22168328
Mikufags are normies.

Isn't Miku supposed to be an android sent from the future?

>>22170098
she should go back

>>22170099
What year is she from?

>>22170098
I don't know if that's canon. I think cfm officially refers to her only as a "virtual idol" so I don't know if she even has a physical form.

>>22170098
That's only a hint for KEI when he was designing her. It has never been cannon and wasn't supposed to be known.

>>22168626
At least Kaito isn't a fag like Len.

>>22168935
Miku is black and beautiful!

>>22167413
Ask the dude who runs that ebooks account

>>22168626
You have to put hours of effort to make V1 Kaito sound anywhere near decent, with Len just shift him two octaves higher than supposed without any tuning and teenagers will still praise the shit out of you.

>>22168626
Naoto sounds better than L*n

>>22170617
Yes, exactly, that's why Kaito is worse

>>22170856
is it just me or do rin and len's legs look super chunky

faggot-p is streaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRMvAuLg8eY

>>22171141
Probably the shoes

>>22168626
fuck you

>>22170856
he's been eating well

>>22170856
What's the appeal of MEIKO? She is just a generic hag.

>>22138332
>>22138573
Speaking of Una, 40mP made a song with her.

https://youtu.be/jFlGeVIDHqg

>>22172082
boobie

>>22172082
She's a genki hag, I like genki of all ages.

>>22170775
>teenagers will still praise the shit out of you.
Always the seal of quality.

Who's your favorite vocaloid producer, anons?

>>22172714
Yeah, so Kaito >>> Len. Rin is the only good Kagamine

>>22172777
I can't choose one producer I like over all the others but there's some that jump out to me.
mothy is the producer that got me into Vocaloid and he'll always have a special place in my heart. kz is the only one whose songs still make me feel that wonder I felt when I first found Vocaloid (Woah, artificial singers?? THE FUTURE IS NOW!). The overall catchiest for me to listen to is probably Utsu-P. As a major Rinfag and fan of the 07-09 era I've got a soft spot for Rin producers and classic producers, and obviously classic Rin producers most of all. God bless Signal-P, Live-P, Jevanni-P and all the other old Rinbros.
>>22172924
I like Len but that's pretty much true.
Rin>Miku>Meiko>Kaito>Luka>Len

>>22172777
Hachi of course. Who else?

>>22172082
limited but hot porn though luka is a better mature

>>22172777
pinocchiop

>>22173145
Kill yourself please.

do not open this

>>22173370
please fucking delete this i beg of you

>>22172206
A una song by 40㍍P is something I never thought I'd ever see.

Just got 2 tickets to the Miku Expo in Amsterdam, first time ever going to a concert with a friend. Pretty excited desu.

>>22173370
Cringe

>>22173145
Holy shit. Fuck you. Favorite song?

>>22173772
>Favorite song?
Obviously Sand Planet, the greatest and most beloved Vocaloid song of all time.

>>22173780
Pleb. This is Hachi's best song.

https://youtu.be/hEyvYm2YRXQ

>>22173370
I don’t get it, why do people who do support gay/trans rights fanart, always without fail, draw the characters so UGLY?! Why would you want people to associate ugly fanart with LGBTQ+ people. I genuinely don’t get it.

Good looking LGBTQ+ people exist, no need to make miku ugly for representation.

>>22173968
>Good looking LGBTQ+ people exist
In 2D maybe.

>>22173974
yeah, miku is super gay and very good looking

>>22172777
Machigerita-P after all those years, one of his sagas means much to me. But otherwise seleP, I can blast him on repeat for hours. Then Utsu-P (DIARRHEA and CD-R), Underbar, but he has only one original Vocaloid song.

>>22173968
Sounds crazy, but I used to know some of those people and they desperately wanted to include every possible race in their drawings, so they often draw Asian characters looking brown or black on purpose (facial features). Just that it doesn't work out, they don't look brown or black, they look plain ugly. But I think that Miku is supposed to be a male so her shoulders and hands are huge. Though Ai isn't much different, I'm as confused as you are. Or maybe they're lesbians and like manly looking women but they turn ugly instead of manly.

>>22144221

>>22144221

>>22168195
>preferably NOT his sister
That's gay anon. You gotta keep the aryan blood as pure as possible.

>>22172777
Kikuo, everytime I think he's reached his peak, he just keeps getting better.

>>22172082
She's beautiful and her v3 voice sounds great.

>>22173623
Congrats! It will be an experience.

>>22173968
>I don’t get it, why do people who do support gay/trans rights fanart, always without fail, draw the characters so UGLY?! Why would you want people to associate ugly fanart with LGBTQ+ people. I genuinely don’t get it.
tumblr

>>22172924
Rin is the only good Kagamine, because Len is the only great Kagamine

>>22173974
Good looking gay men are an old trope though

>>22173968
This is all due to western artists, LGBT or not western art is bad 99% of the time

>>22137337

i love ghostdata :>

Are cryptonloids (excluding Miku obviously) dying?

>>22176422
The only ones I see surviving are Miku and the Kagamines thanks to pedos

>>22176438
>pedos
You mean hebes?

>>22176452
>can marry at 14 in case of pregnancy in North Carolina

>>22176452
What's the difference?

>>22176521
Hebes like early pubescent kids. Pedos like prepubescent kids.
Hebes would like Rin or Len.
Pedos would like Una or Gachapoid.

>>22176560
Not even pedos like gachapoid though.

>>22176422
Miku is dying too, don't worry

>>22176438
>>22176452
No, he means shotacons/lolicons

Or can't people tell the difference between reality and fiction anymore? Kinda worrisome

>>22176893
>Or can't people tell the difference between reality and fiction anymore?
There is no distinction between them in Japan. The meaning of lolicon/shotacon ranges from pedophile to hebephile there.

need more vflower porn

>>22176942
so the distinction between them is a western thing?

>>22176978
I guess you could say that. When you say you're a lolicon or a shotacon in Japan, they'll assume you're attracted to children in general, not just 2D ones. In America, being called a pedophile is one of the worst—if not the worst thing you can call someone, so you'll have people saying they're only attracted to 2D, which is okay of course. Regardless, 2D loli/shota porn harms no one and should not be censored by the government. I think we can end this discussion here before we get too off-topic. Have some Kagamines.

失楽ペトリ / 初音ミク -ナナホシ管弦楽団
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tke5xF_hUXo

>>22177179

>>22176422
I always hear people say this is dying that is dying, this is reclining and whatnot. Can you define what it means when you say something is dying? Not enough songs are getting made? Not enough songs you enjoy? Less cosplayers? Less community engagement? Not enough art? A change is demographics? Smaller concert turnovers? Less concerts? Not enough innovation. What? Why is it dying? You have to say why you think it's dying before anyone can either agree or disagree with you.

>>22177463
It's just doomposting and it's been around for literally everything in literally forever. Though I've noticed a bit less of it recently, maybe doomposting is... dying?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zciI48yqiTg

Is IA safe from getting you vanned if loli was banned in Burgerland?

>>22178179
Yes because IA is not a loli. Even Rin arguably isn't.

>>22178187
can plum spirits be lolis?

>>22178313
i thought mikoto was a boy?

>>22177038
how are they so cute

>>22178313
They are genderless, but they look loli enough I guess. Other than them, Una, Lana, Kiritan, and Yuki are also lolis. Rin is a borderline case. I think this image explains it well.

>>22178748
>Lana
wat

>>22178834
Sorry, typo. Meant Rana.

>>22178748
Translation?

>>22178885
From what I can understand, it basically says:

If you don't see any of the characters in the image as an object of (romantic) love, you are not a lolicon, and you are a completely healthy person. 0% danger level.
If you see Hatsune Miku as an object of love, you are safe for now. Depending on your age, it might be a red flag. 25% danger level.
If you see Kagamine Rin as an object of love, you are approaching dangerous territories. You should get treated by a lolicon specialist. 75% danger level.
If you see Kaai Yuki as an object of love, it is too late for you. Danger level is impossible to measure.

So we are almost in 2020...why do you guys still listen to vocaloid? It lost the "wow" factor many years ago, there are better waifus out there, there may be some good songs but lets be honest...they would sound much, much better with a real voice and it feels like its useful for producers who cant pay for a proper vocalist but thats all it has going for it. Feel free to change my mind.

>>22180566
>lost the "wow" factor many years ago
it's a taste and we enjoy it still, why come on this thread if vocaloid was just a music phase for you? you're fine to think that but just as much as you like other waifus and real singers other people prefer otherwise

>>22180566
So we are almost in 2020...why do you guys still listen to classical music? It lost the "wow" factor many years ago, there are better musicians out there, there may be some good songs but lets be honest...

>>22180566
Because I like the music. If you think of waifus in terms of "better" or "worse" you don't actually know what a waifu means and are just trying way too hard to fit in

>>22180566
Music is great and I honestly like it better with without "real" voices.

Also Vocaloid has the best waifus, pic related

>>22180566
Even though the vocaloids are great waifus my main appeal to them is finding great songs and knowing that there was considerable effort by some random person to make it that way. Also the slightly digitized sound to the vocals is charming to me.

>>22177179
>those YEAH YEAH YEAHs
I like it. Good stuff.

>>22180566
Another typical newfag who thinks anyone listens to vocaloid because they care about "good" music

>>22180566
You just sound depressed. I still find great and funny new fanart, discover amazing songs and producers I've never heard of and some inspiring music videos here and there. Also the merch never ends and concerts finally hit off around the world. Sometimes it still has that wow factor from 2008 (at least to me) and it makes me want to finally participate myself.

>>22180566
I've been saying it kind of died down compared to before 2015, but recently even some older producers started making songs again(otetsu, cosmo, etc) so it feels like going home.

and I don't really have anything else anyway...

>>22180590
>there are better musicians put there
no way. At least in matters of interpretation there is no rival for the level of exigency in classical. Jazz cats are also impressive but for different reasons, mainly their improvisation skills and understanding of harmony

>>22180566
While fully aware of the perpetual sunset the vocaloids has been in since 2014ish (many popular Ps such as 40mP and DECO*27 going professional/corporate, rise of gatchas & virtual youtubers, fewer and fewer new Ps).

I still intend to stay until the very end.

>>22180566
You don't choose who you fall in love with. Miku is my waifu and she will always be my only one.
Her cute robotic voice is better than any 3DPD will ever accomplish.

>>22178748
>>22178966
So even if you just like Miku, nips still think you might have some lolicon tendencies? Interesting.

>>22180566
This is the third doompost in this thread.

Why do voiceroids have so much more porn than even the more popular non-Crypton vocaloids?

>>22180566
There is a lot of >implying implications in your post. First you're implying that Vocaloid is just a fad that should have died out. Secondly you're implying there was some "wow" factor that was lost. Maybe with the hologram concerts but not in general. And lastly you're implying Vocaloid is a phase that people grow out of. While that may be true for some teenage fans you're question is basically asking someone who likes the Rolling Stones why he is still listening to the Rolling Stones 12 years later. Maybe because it's just the style of music I like?

>lets be honest...they would sound much, much better with a real voice
If that were true then I would be listening to shitty REOL covers instead of the originals. I like robotic/synthetic voices.

>>22181767
Can't imagine why.

>>22180566
because it sounds good to me. why else would i listen to it?

>>22181862
Not that weird, I'd say voiceroid has a completely separate fanbase from vocaloid at this point, and they seem pretty lewd.

>>22181862
Because voiceroids = let's plays; let's plays = gamers; gamers = sex starved nerds, geeks and incels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBgADhsOoog

>>22183159
I prefer the Hime & Mikoto version.
https://youtu.be/GcxIuAWX7Ws

>>22183159
Best version coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juHX-TxIPvE

Can you recall your first Vocaloid song? I think it was World is Mine for me.

>>22183422
It was from a couple clips of one of the earlier live shows, so yes. First was World is Mine, followed immediately by Migikata no Chou (the Len version with Rin on the stage as well for some reason)

>>22183422
I'm pretty sure it was po pi po? I'm not for sure, though. It's been a long time.

>>22183422
for me is weekender girl from when I tried the ps vita demo

>>22183422
Love is War.

>>22183422
The first one I ever heard was probably World is Mine. The first ones I actively listened to were Melt and Electric Angel (the original ver). The one that actually got me into Vocaloid was Daughter of Evil.

>>22183422
Probably World is Mine when I played Project Diva on PSP after /jp/ posted about it

>>22183422
A Miku cover of Airman ga Taosenai

>>22183422
I can't remember which one was my first but i remember that fukireta introduced vocaloid to me.

>>22183422
Triple Baka during the MW2 days

>>22183422
Butterfly by smile.dk.
Technically it's not a vocaloid song but it was in a video I watched where I learned who Miku was

>>22183422
I don't think it was the first Vocaloid song I heard but Matryoshka was the song that made me want to find out more about it.

>>22183422
01_ballade.

>>22183422
Hatsune Miku no gekishou in osu.
https://youtu.be/VG1lFqEGNOk

>>22183422
vague memories of me me hearing melt in late 2007 are bubbling up
hacked a psp mid 2016 to play diva and it all went downhill from there

>>22183422
Miku's version of Ievan Polka.

>>22183422
I think it was this but I could be wrong.

https://youtu.be/E6m2NzdN7o0

>>22183422
https://nightmargin.tumblr.com/post/146887440051/just-a-little-thing-ive-been-doodling-to-kill-time
saw this 3 years ago and listened to Rolling Girl without knowing it's Vocaloid, no other songs for 3 years, properly got into Vocaloid this year

>>22183422
Spice

would you fuck kemono miku?

>>22185788
No

>>22183422
Hitobashira Alice, I wanted to know which anime it's from.

>>22185788
that drawing is haram

>>22183422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn0HFhrhKO0

>>22183406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNKBvi1x5FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YENeSl45l4

Underrated ship to be honest.

>>22183422
Must be Melt for me. I still like that PV, even if I have never seen it in an actually good quality

>>22185788
I will think about it.

If they are going to put 3DCG dancers in IA concerts, the could at least choose cute and non fat girls

>>22188605
Get rid of them and throw ONE up there. The 3d pigs ruin everything

>>22188657

You could have five or six performers on stage. Or just ONE.

>>22181767
Good thing I make it unambiguous for them.

>>22189355
Why did Yuki fail? Aren't there plenty of lolicons in Japan?

>>22190078
>Aren't there plenty of lolicons in Japan?
Una did fine though. Yuki's design is just too generic. She looks like a background character from anime.

>>22190078

There is only one Yuki P that even makes decent songs to me. I'm not really sure what kind of songs her voicebank is supposed to work with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffGcA4Kj-rk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NWuC2UF0u0

Oh and whatever this one is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c6ynTwYqoY

>>22190136
Wasn't her voice provided by an actual elementary schooler?

>>22190169

Yes

>>22190122
Una is just great. You don't have to be a lolicon to like her voice.

>>22190277
you want me to believe that you're not a lolicon?

>>22190690
I am, but it's not the only reason I like her.

I'll be at Each of Voice in a few hours.

No idea what I'm doing but I wanted to go on a lark so here so I am.

>>22180566
Because the first 7(5) years were glorious, and despite the following disappointments like getting to know the dark side of the MMD community, despite the shitshow that was LukaV4X, despite the aprils fool joke that IA TALK should have been, despite the shit what happened with Harumakigohan, despite some producers remaking songs in ways that mess up the charm of the originals or just changing styles, etc.
Because "realism" was never a goal for me, the charm was always the life-like but inhuman singer, the simple guy at the computer and the virtual idol(which is also kind of gone) and no, a real singer would most likely add the same bends of voice that a lot of cover artists do often making the songs worse in some way despite the tuning being very "realistic".(most of the time when someone tries to make love songs more emotional and ends up making them too emotional)
But despite everything, there are still old and new producers making good stuff.

>>22191179
>the dark side of the MMD community
Mind elaborating?

>>22191283
If you only watch videos it shouldn't matter, but there are people abusing models, people making silly or stupid restrictions on models(only use here and there, this way and that way), readme-s almost coming-off as rude(you MUST credit me!), models put behind passwords or telling you to ask personally on twitter, hell, I even saw some page asking for works made by you and other info before letting you download a model.
When I was merely watching videos it looked like a place where people just worked together having fun, but then there's actually a lot of drama behind the scenes. Not saying none of it is justified, but it was a bit disillusioning.

>>22191179
>harumaki gohan shit
yoo is he a "pedo" like kikuo, did twitter get to him

>>22191339
The time when he made his youtube channel and told a fansubber to remove his videos but also asked to advertise him on tumblr or something.

>>22191339
kikuo isnt a fucking pedo you tard
kill yourself

>>22191339
>kikuo
Wasn't it a misunderstanding?

>>22191355
>kikuo isnt a fucking pedo you tard
>kill yourself
read what i said again nigger, "pedo"
>did twitter get to him
anyways, remember that ringo drama

-or producers wiping their Nico accounts and sometimes even completely disappearing. AVTechno and Mikenekopunch)

>>22190928
Lucky. I really want to go but I have to work on Saturdays. Have fun.

>>22191404
AVTechno is on YouTube right?