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http://www.cool-b.jp/calendar.php
https://www.4gamer.net/script/search/index.php?mode=schedule&JOSHIBU

FAQ & Resources:
http://pastebin.com/PxzvdMjA

Rec chart:
http://pastebin.com/dDnYWGem

Bonus question:
>Who is your favorite Otome/BL game heroine/hero and why?

Previous thread: >>22006443

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>>22168283
JP wikis:
http://wikiwiki.jp/toulove/
http://tohken.gamerch.com/

EN wiki:
http://touken-ranbu.wikia.com

Official twitter accounts:
https://twitter.com/TOUKEN_STAFF
https://twitter.com/tkrb_ht

Downloads (game rips, scans, radio, etc):
https://pastebin.com/07Ax4qnY

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>>22168283
bump for the best prince

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Here are the official results of the Prince Awards 2019:

<グランプリ賞> 上位30位まで

1位 リカ王子
2位 イヌイ王子
3位 アキト王子
4位 グレイシア王子
5位 カリバーン王子
6位 ヒノト王子
7位 アヴィ王子
8位 ダグラス王子
9位 フロスト王子
10位 アポロ王子
11位 ユリウス王子
12位 砕牙王子
13位 オリオン王子
14位 ルシアン王子
15位 ジョシュア王子
16位 ウィル王子
17位 シン王子
18位 シュニー王子
19位 桜花王子
20位 サキア王子
21位 ギルバート王子
22位 シュテル王子
23位 チェシャ猫王子
24位 ルルス王子
25位 リド王子
26位 ミリオン王子
27位 ゲイリー王子
28位 ハナレ王子
29位 オズワルド王子
30位 イラ王子

More results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSJG3-6Omg

>> No.22168621

>>22168506
Same guy with different hair unless you squint

>> No.22168845

>>22168506
japan with shit taste like always

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To that anon who talked me about Hashihime lat thread

||Holy fuck you were right, what a shit twist and way to completely ruin a story.||

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To that anon who talked me about Hashihime lat thread
Holy fuck you were right, what a shit twist and way to completely ruin a story.

>> No.22169068

>>22168506
Oresamas and sluts everywhere

>> No.22169968

I thought we died for good

>> No.22170334

>>22169029
Dumb Discord poster using Discord spoiler tags

>> No.22170350

Whose idea is it to put free talks at the end of lewd CD's. That shit is too embarrassing and awkward to listen to.

>> No.22170377

>I-chu original version is dead (offline version planned)
>Its new project is delayed until at least next Spring
RIP.

>> No.22170701

>>22170377
I still can't believe I actually dumped money into that game

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>>22169968
Nah. I had prepared an OP.
I was going to go with this because demon and package cover nipple. Anyone read this?
>>22170377
Holy fuck that’s a blow. I’ve been playing since day one. I thought the series was doing well enough since it was getting an anime. Save for i7 all the originals are now killed.

>4周年を記念してドラマCDの制作が決定!
Yumecast is getting a new drama CD.

>> No.22171659

>>22170377
>I-Chu is.....not quite shutting down yet, but no new events or scouts anymore. The date of when it will actually shut down is undecided. They're working on developing an offline version where you can play the rhythm game and read the stories without connecting to the servers.
I just heard about this. Unironically what went wrong?

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Will EOPs save Liber?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMB9kd3znjY

>> No.22172494 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMB9kd3znjY

>> No.22172605

Anyone know who translated Hashihime? Is the translation good? Heavily considering buying it.

>> No.22172610

>>22170377
RIP

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>>22172605
Not sure who translated it, but I found the tl and the game itself pretty good.

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>found out about a game where you take in and nurture an orphan boy princess maker style
>it's in chinese
The bad news is that my chinese is utter shit, the good news is that the devs said they were contemplating an English version. I would take even a nip version, at least I would understand it.

>> No.22173122

>>22171659
>what went wrong?
ensemble stars

>> No.22173306

>>22172605
TL is alright, awkward at times and some technical mistakes have creeped in but overall competent.

>> No.22173508

Whoever starts the next thread, please do use this pic >>22171265 It's chef kiss!

I'm ex OP (from #201), thanks new OP for taking the bonus question suggestion!

>> No.22173830

Re: discussion question, blast me all you want for this, but I thought Keiichi from Omega Vampire was a very fun MC. It's been a bit since I've played it, but I remember him being very fun and not a complete pushover. I can't think of any otome MCs that I've liked, ever.

Also Sakurada-senpai cd where?

>>22168506
Shit taste. Where's the fruity vampire boy? Can't even remember his name but he was definitely best boy.

>>22170377
Rip in piss

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22174765

the new utapri game looks good

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Soma Saito, Shinichirou Kamio, and Ryuuichi Kijima added to Ikemen Vampire cast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiFu8oNKvg

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anyone knows what game is this?

>> No.22174925

>>22172605
https://twitter.com/frillyfujoshi

>> No.22175032

>>22172605
Also how long is the game? VNDB has it listed in the Long (30 - 50 hours) category. Is that accurate?

>> No.22176623

>>22175032
I finished it in around 25 hours, but then again I also speed read through two of the routes because I wasn't really enjoying them. It's definitely closer to 30 than it is 50.

>> No.22177221

Gensou Kissa Enchante (Switch) – 7/8/8/8 [31/40]

>> No.22177425

I'm not too far in, stopped after it flashed 'One' on the screen, but I'm enjoying the characters and the atmosphere so far. The art took some getting used to in the sense that while I like the special CGs and their use of colour I felt at first that some of these characters looked samey. Though, aside from these two I noticed most of the character designs are distinctive after I played some more. I honestly want to marathon it because I'm hooked but I also want to take breaks to let everything sink in and to not get through it too quickly.

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>>22177425
Forgot to post the screencap.

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Step Stride
Another game with a red-haired main boy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7aQCAnfR2A

>> No.22178813

>>22178428
>Browser game
https://stepride.jp/
Although I actually miss these since I was addicted to one of those otome browser game a few years ago. Too bad I forgot the title and it's already dead anyway iirc.

>> No.22179930

>>22168506
What's the difference between the top 10

>> No.22179937

>>22173830
You mean Rei? Isn't he a guest character?

>> No.22180504

>>22179937
Sorry, I meant ラス, that guy. Maybe he's too freaky for the general public, I don't know.

>> No.22180949

>>22168506
What? glacia no in the top 30 but his brothers are

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>>22173830
glad? he is the best vampire

>> No.22181082

>>22177425
>>22177430
Oh shit, it's finally out? Guess I'll look into picking it up.

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Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth
PV 2: Scout Hen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6mit6RYUaY

>> No.22181751

>>22179937
>>22180504
>>22180963
What I have learned here is that there are many fruity vampires in yume100

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>>22180949
>4位 グレイシア王子

>> No.22182504

>>22181751
It is pandering directly to me.

>> No.22182872

>>22177425
Just remember the last 3 routes are not good as the first two. The last one may straight up murder any enjoyment the story may have given you.

>> No.22182920

>>22182872
So overall it's a crash and burn trainwreck? I'll keep my expectations low since I've started playing it too. I really dig the Taisho era aesthetics, and the in-game dictionary.

>> No.22182939

>>22182920
It feels more like a waste of time than a trainwreck, at least trainwreck are entertaining.

If you removed the 5th the story would literally be better.

>> No.22182958

>>22182939
Finished playing it earlier, and I gotta say the twist was fine, personally, though I know the trope tends to be polarizing. I kind of expected it w/ the nature of the game. 3rd and 5th routes were pretty unenjoyable though. I really expected Kaoru's route to be more plot heavy but it just drops the twist on you and that's about it. It felt like a very short route and I really wasn't into the smut at all as Kaoru's very... stunted.

>> No.22182973

>>22182958
You basically summed up my feelings about the last route. I was more bothered by the fact that MC decided to fuck his disabled "child", rather than the twist.. Cut out the third and fifth route and the game would be so much better, good even.

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>>22182958
>Finished playing it earlier, and I gotta say the twist was fine, personally, though I know the trope tends to be polarizing
I think "It was all a dream" twists can fine, but the way this game went was absolutely shitty since none of that was real - you spent so much time saving Minakami, making you care for him, and then he isn't even real in his own universe. A lot of of "it was all dreams" stories have characters still be real in their own universe but rather play on the protagonist perception of what really happened. And I'm not a moralfag or anything, but what's up with the incest? Like, the route is 20 minutes long and 10 of those are spent having gay incest sex with your retarded child, who isn't even a character (Despite the "hype" surrounding it.) Is this supposed to be appealing?
Also it's interesting to see some many people dislike the third route too, eh. It was indeed dogshit and rushed as hell. The story did a good job making you care for Kawase, but I couldn't even tell how I was suppose to feel toward Hanazawa.

>> No.22183021

>>22183002
It really just comes down to opinion, I guess. It didn't bother me as at the end of the day it's still fictional, through and through. The enjoyment I got out of the route and me caring for Minakami are real enough for me, haha. I really thought Hanazawa would be the lowest point for me, but that fifth route absolutely went above and beyond to disappoint.

>> No.22183063

Best boy girl (male) is Naoshi anyway, loved the smug little shit.

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>>22183021
Yeah, I get what you mean, it's not like I think Minakami and the other are real, but there is a difference to me between "a story that is fictional" and "a story that is entirely fictional in his own fictional universe", Minakami ends up being no more relevant to the story than the fart I let out 5 minutes ago. There isn't even a "Minakami" in the story, because the real one died when they were like 10. In the end Hashihime story could be summed a "lonely dude wakes up from his dream and fucks his son." I'm not even sure what message it was trying to convey, since the characters themselves were really just the Tamamori's fetishes.

>> No.22183673

>>22182872
That's unfortunate to hear, though I'll still try to go through this with an open mind. That being said I can already see that one anon's point about that you should not be playing this for the romance cause so far I can't imagine how any sexual encounters will happen logically. Well, the eyepatch guy seems hungry for MC's dick at least but MC doesn't seem interested.

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>>22183673
I actually partially disagree, the first route in particular has a pretty fantastic romance which ties itself to the core story and the characters' motivations. It was pleasantly surprised when it came to it the Tamamori admitted he always loved Minakami, he just was so deep in denial and comfortable with is daily life he didn't to disrupt it, so he didn't "turn" gay, he straight up calls his denial It just really takes a lot to get going, but it comes together nicely and even the sex is pretty sweet (But rushed). It could have used an epilogue with some fluff in it, which actually was included in the Vita Porta/Side stories.

The second routes fumbles a bit, but that's every story branches from the main route, there is clearly a "Main" guy and everyone else feels like an extra (If you have watched/read Stein;Gate is basically that), the game seem to understand that though and it doesn't always try to sell you romance. The main character comes to love Kawase, but it's obvious his relationship can't have the same depth of his relationship with Minakami initially, even Kawase call him on that because he knows the main character love(d) Minakami

You shouldn't play it for romance because the game just throws everything out of the window for a retarded sex scene with your mentally challenged son Dammit, that fucking ending still makes me boil

>> No.22183821

>>22183104
I'm not sure if the game is supposed to have some big 'message' but there are some initial thoughts I have about the themes. The game has a focus on hallucinations and how others aren't really supposed to see them. It's very noticeable when characters (notably Professor and Kawase) are able to see/interact with them, which was a tip off for me about the twist. Can't say much about banging Kaoru but I thought it was interesting that in this supposed real world, Tamamori is able to take on his younger self's appearance, and Kaoru is able to see/interact with that. Even with how shit the low points are, I'd say I like the game a lot for its good. Sorry for blog posting!

>> No.22183836

>>22183821
> Sorry for blog posting!
It's fine, isn't the point of the thread to discuss a game?

>> No.22183891

>>22183002
>"It was all a dream"
wow that's fucking stupid glad I didn't even pirate-
>having gay incest sex with your retarded child
I am conflicted as this is my fetish...

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>>22183891
Not that anon, but It's not even that good incest sex. It doesn't last long and the character it's barely defined (Also, he's legitimately retarded). The CGs in general also lack of muscle definition making them kinda unfappable to me, the kinky dialogs are more fappable.

It's just kinda fucks the story, you would probably get more enjoyment from some random doujin on ex. It's not really a game you play for the porn, except they decide to kinda fuck the story for it, so ???

>> No.22183977

>>22183891
It's not actual incest either. He's not actually related to protag.

>> No.22184041

>>22183977
He did raise him since childhood and thinks of him as a son. It's definitely incest even if not blood related. He even refers to him as his son as he takes his dick.

>> No.22184147

>>22184041
No, I know that. But I know that NBR incest is sometimes weak for people who just want them to commit to the trope. Mentioned it for clarity.

>> No.22184601

>>22184041
God damn it. That’s all I want. Why can’t we have nice things?

>> No.22184659

>>22183904
>>22184041
>>22184147
nbr AND bottom daddy, story focused with a story that doesn't matter
Yeah this game is shit, thanks for the info to stay clear. There really should be more father-son stuff that's not aimed towards hairy bara loving gay men.

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>>22184659
He doesn't even look daddy like when he gets fucked, he reverts back to his younger self via illusion magic.

Honestly my suggestion would be to read the first two routes and enjoy a rather powerful love story that spawns across time and space and a decent what if of what happens if shit doesn't go according to the plan.

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>>22184659
He doesn't even look daddy like when he gets fucked, he reverts back to his younger self via illusion magic.

Honestly my suggestion would be to read the first two routes and enjoy a rather powerful love story that spawns across time and space and a decent what if of what happens if shit doesn't go according to the plan.

>> No.22184926

>>22183821
>Sorry for blog posting!
No need to be sorry for /blog/ posting, silly anon.

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>>22178428
Genki Red and his Stoic Blue foil is the meme Japan never gets tired of. And why do most of them look like the same person wearing different colored wigs? What a waste

>> No.22185454

Wow, seeing people actually discuss this game makes me want to play it just a little bit.

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>>22181751
Yume100 is relevant to many fetishes. That said, I would really like to fuck a fish.

>> No.22185614

>>22185506
Do any of them inckude bkys you can bully or give them a good loving

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qql97B4Gbaw

>> No.22186773

>>22184601
That's all you want what?

>> No.22186803

https://otogelib.tumblr.com/
Here we go again

>> No.22187117

>>22186803
These are the "show proof of purchase 2 get translation" peoples? I wonder if they're just gonna keep releases private within their circlejerk like they said they would.

>> No.22187414

>>22186157
I want winter sports boys.

>> No.22187437

They really need to be more upfront about the fact they're going to use the translations for a patch. Also, if they are going to do patches they need to explain how they're going to release them. I'm not going to donate translations to any group that doesn't do a public release of their patch.

>> No.22188403

>>22186803
Why the hell are they running so many projects at once?

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>>22186803
>Recruiting translators and proofreaders
>Teasing fans with games all otome fans want in English
>Will never make a public release and just gatekeep between themselves because they're too scared of getting DMCA'd (it's not like they couldn't make anonymous releases).
>Fuck people who thirst for the game and that cannot show a developer dicksucking proof
>Totally ignoring that modifying a game is piracy
>pic related

>>22187437
>not going to donate translations to any group that doesn't do a public release of their patch.
After the diabolikgate who the fuck wants to help that group? Just to share the game between relatives once it's completely patched? My fucking sides.
Learning Japanese is easier than waiting for a patched game.

>> No.22188754

>>22173830
>Also Sakurada-senpai cd where?
Nowhere. Fujo comradery is dead.

>> No.22189504

>>22188403
Well, it's not much work if you let others do all the translating.

>> No.22189528

>>22186803
Can't say I'm surprised that the DL project leader is back again after she threw a fit and got her grand pity party.
With the translations being made by every random Joe I expect the patches to be a complete mess. Assuming they'll even get that far kek

>> No.22189536

>>22189504
Wait, they don't even have their own translators? What's the point of them then?

>> No.22189727

>>22187414
Snowboard kids otome remake when

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>>22189536
To translate for their relatives who own the game

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>>22180963
>>22181751
pic related is the only vampire in this game

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You told me this had no romance but this is pretty sweet?

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>>22191850
It's not that hashihime doesn't have any romance, it is present in the game but if you're playing solely for it or the sex scenes, you'll be disappointed.
It's nearly non-existent with the characters having only 1 sex scene per route. Romance-wise, I found only 3 routes somewhat satisfying with Minakami having the best written and the most "believable" romance in the game, also some may be put off by the fact that Minakami is the only guy mc truly loves throughout the game or by the twist, but I prefer to pretend it didn't happen though

>> No.22192291

>>22192272
>guy mc truly loves throughout the game
As it should be.

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The only value the Hashihime story has to offer is that if you pretend the last route didn't t happen, I don't understand how people who translated it or the JP players like it enough to have it get a Vita port, the last route is ZTD level of shit for me. It's just a giant FUCK YOU to the reader.

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>>22192308
>mind hacks you
The main character is batshit insane and that's just another illusion of his. ZTD never happened

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>>22190275
His ossan bro Jay too

7sins a cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnR-vNNL3Fw

>> No.22195629

>>22190275
>>22195552
Oh, I guess they were demons, that's right.

Anyway, fruity boys.

>> No.22195644

>>22192272
Minakami is best boy. The only thing the novel-needed was a time skip years later in which they both look like their DILF selfs and act even more dere.

>> No.22195665

>>22192694
>>22192308
Waait, wait wait wait.

>main character is batshit insane
>ZTD never happened
Can you elaborate on all this? I haven't played Hashihime, and based on what you guys are saying, I probably shouldn't, but I have played ZTD. How are they similar?

>> No.22195746

>>22195665
You misunderstood. I was saying that the last route is ZTD level of stupid and completely ruins the game.

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Curious about how Baka Gaijin's dialogue will look

>> No.22198084

>>22172835
I'm learning Chinese, what's the name of this game?

>> No.22198121

>>22198084
心之檻

>> No.22198346

Lol guys actually say anything u want to say?
Do u know tling an otome game is not a joke? It's hardwork ppl like u won't even understand.
She trying to do more tls and release them publicly as text tls, and ppl already trying to bash her bc of that. Like the dev don't want their shits tl'ed and u should respect their wishes, go learn japanese instead. Then ppl bash her bc of ruining future of otome game localization company. Lol all she ever do is making patches without receive anything in return. At least be respect.
I really hope she would stop overwork herself bc ppl like u. She was wrong to do anything for this toxic community. I'll tell her to stop.

>> No.22198352

>>22198121
thank you!

>> No.22198631
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22198631

>>22198346
Hey, buddy, I think you've got the wrong site.
Reddit is two blocks down.

>> No.22198969
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>>22186157
>Futsal
The superior sport; so fucking hyped. Do you know how many chickens I had to sacrifice for this?
>フットサル試合イベントの勝敗結果がアニメやゲームに連動,反映される
https://www.4gamer.net/games/481/G048113/20191003066/
I'm gonna faint.

>> No.22199532

>>22198346
Overwork herself doing what?

>> No.22199970
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22199970

>>22198346
>It's hard work ppl like u won't even understand.
Do people who destroy books (name manga, doujinshi, and even artbooks) to translate it afterwards do it waiting for something in exchange? What are the actual intentions behind going that far if sharing it's not the final objective? Being involved in a project where you invest time, effort, and even passion is hard. I myself have bought books, cut, scanned, cleaned, translated and shared with the world the final result withouts asking anything in exchange but to be enjoyed.
It IS a hard job, but if you had the intention to go through all the process of destroying a book and modifying it to share later, why would you be so averse to the public sharing idea? In the case of this patching group, at the very moment they moved a finger to make a game playable in English, they should have known the imminent chain reaction that was going to affect them. Were they mentally prepared for the leak incident? We all now know they weren't. First time being pirates? Welcome aboard because you need to get used to the tides of love and hate when you do something that allows others to enjoy your job without getting anything in exchange. That's how it works.

>go learn japanese instead
Assuming that all people here don't know Japanese is underestimating/degrading anons from this site who have helped with projects by other groups from other areas. Perhaps not patching a game, but maybe you have read manga or watched anime that any of us (or part of 4chan) could have translated and proofread. Just take a look at boards such as /a/, /jp/, and even /y/ and you'll find anonymous heroes that have brought you fun directly to your favorite mangareader.
Even some skilled otome fans in Japanase who frequent this poor general could help, but the terms certain gatekeeping groups want to be accepted are just too ridiculous. Ego much? Want to be credited for translations, proofreads, patch, and other technical things but at the same time don't want to be very known so the developers won't catch you.

This problem can be solved:
1. Not patching anything.
2. Working as a completely nomad anonymous group that openly shares. No credits, no names, so no DMCA shit will happen.
3. They could even survive with donations if they decide keeping a group for a while.

But something in the middle, like asking for buying proofs really makes me think about the ethics and mindset people involved in these patching projects have.

>Then ppl bash her bc of ruining future of otome game localization company.
Since the incident, I haven't read a single post (at least here) about how a patch kills the otome industry. These games are so niche that Japan doesn't give many fucks about how they get translated. The fact that the games are ripped from original sources is more nocive to them.

>toxic community
It's not a DLcentric thing. It's about how they decide sharing stuff after have hyped fans who felt fooled by them after so many promises that were meant for a small group.

>> No.22199982

>>22199532
U think managing a translation group is easy? U think hacking and taking care of coding, repacking, beta testing is easy?
U think recruiting ppl and make ppl work as translators is easy? Do u think those game scripts come from nowhere??? Do u think fixing the font file and make it work, finding ways to make the tls actually works in the game easy? Is there any other leader/groups that can do it like her?
When she release it freely ppl accuses her of ruining future localizations, when she tried to shut them up by demanding proof of purchase you ppl bash her and said she's gatekeeping ppl from doing things. AND SHE GAINS NOTHING FROM DOING THESE SHITS.
How about you people being nice for once? If you can't help then don't ruin it for others. OK?

>> No.22200000

>>22199970
She can't release the patch freely because it's the only way that she can get other translators to work for the translation.
Did u know that if she didn't stated their fan translations require proof of purchase, the admins/mods of r/otomegames won't let her post the rercruitment post? How else does she can get ppl to translate if not posting recruitment posts everywhere and hope for the best? Cuz she tried and nobody helped.
Did u know that she got so much hate about try to translate games? Did u read her newest reddit thread?
Work as annonymous? Who will work for u? Can u find translators to work for her? If yes then by all means do it. I'm sure she will support you with technical stuff.

>> No.22200007

I noticed there were a bunch of EOP newfags a while ago but this is truly based

>> No.22200027

Did you read what that poster actually said?

>Being involved in a project where you invest time, effort, and even passion is hard
>It IS a hard job

I have been invovled in similar things before. It IS hard, and I would therefore not expend my time and money if I were not expecting the result to be shared or I could not freely share it (if I were a contributor).

These things will almost always find their way out anyway. If it is something I wished to remain private... I would only share it in private. Or choose not to share it, if I would be that hurt by it. Not announce anything publicly.

But that's just me. Perhaps others feel differently.

I think you have the wrong audience if you think we should "go learn Japanese instead". A lot of us already have, and I don't read reddit or tumblr or whereever this is happening.

>> No.22200172

>>22199982
Does your boss need the buttpats and appreciation from an anonymous imageboard's snail slow general with sub 40 posters? (dynamic ips) Is that what she needs to make it through the work no one is forcing her to do and no one who knows japanese/is learning japanese/lol texthooking cares about? Did a bit of gossip an shittalk on this corpse of a website make her sicc a whiteknight here? Please reread >>22198631 and stay there and in discord.

>> No.22200190

>>22200172
Yeah that's why she was wrong to do shit for this toxic community of otome gamers lol.

>> No.22200199

>>22200027
Did u read who I was replying to?
Don't u understand? They are ok if ppl private sharing their patch, just don't publish it so they can continue to do shit in peace, get more people, nobody blame them for ruining shitty localization companies. Their translators can translate and work in peace without drama, they just want to be left alone and do their hobby while sharing with others. THEY DO WANT TO SHARE, JUST NOT PUBLISH SO THEY CAN BE SAFE AND BE AT PEACE.

>> No.22200222

>>22200027
I didn't said u guys should go learn Japanese. Someone at reddit was bashing fan translation said so. They said that if u don't know Japanese then better go learn it, don't fan translate stuff and ruin otome companies.

>> No.22200246

>>22200222
Again, see >>22198631
Go shitpost on reddit instead of over here.

>> No.22200251

>>22200246
Then stop shitpost about others. Be nice for once, loser that do nothing for the community.

>> No.22200346

>>22188403
We're not running any projects right now.
Otogelib is only the place where I put game scripts for those who need it to translate games.
The final completed translation can be made into a fan patch translation should the lead translator/group of people that translated that game wish it. I'm going to help them. And how they're going to distribute the patch is up to them, not of my concern. I only help them create that patch. Either release it publicly or privately is their business. I'm not going to say anything about it. Just go complete translating a game first.
Just some clarification, if you guys want to participate in translating and are afraid of us gatekeeping the patch, don't be.

>> No.22200908

I don't know who linked to us but thanks for the good laugh.

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>>22198346
>like dev don't want their shits tl'd
Numerous games have been translated, even honeybee and rejet shit has patches and no one is in jail for otome related crimes.
Stop typing like you have brain problems

>> No.22201179

>>22199970
Anon, I might regret asking this, but what scan team did you work with?

>> No.22201280

I should've never touched Mashou Meganes bad ends

>> No.22201438

>>22200998
Go ahead and be a leader of a translation group, then everyday people bashing you and your translation team because what you did was illegal, your translators are just too tired with the drama, they work for free and not getting anything back already. Now they have to take all the harsh words of those people? For what? They can just enjoy the game themselves and do nothing to the community. And then they all left.
You said to work as an annonymous party, then where do you get people to work for translations? Can you find them for me? Now do you understand?

>> No.22201653

>>22201280
I've had that one listed in my backlog. Are the bad ends well-written trainwrecks, normal 'you dun goofed' ends, or terrible 'wtf were they smoking when they wrote this' bad endings?

>> No.22201673

>>22201653
It's the damn CGs. It got really gorey and disturbing, comparing to the good ends which are very lovey dovey.

>> No.22201776

>>22201673
Oh wow. Now I'm even more intrigued by that contrast. Thanks, anon. I'll be moving Mashou Megane up my to do list.

>> No.22201908

>>22201673
Wtf I want to read megane mashou now too. Are there any yanderes?

>> No.22201938

>>22201673
That guy who loves corpses, was he worth playing through?

>> No.22202151

>>22201938
Yea, he was my favourite by far. He's a jerk and I like that.
>>22201908
No violent or super possessive ones.

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>>22186157
inb4 rival BR team appears to get them BTFO

>> No.22203702

>>22198346
>I'll tell her to stop.
Yes, please do that, thank you.

>> No.22204131

fan translations all suck and only like 2% of them get finished

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>>22201438
No one is forcing you to do anything though. Unironically you can try looking for translators or those who can help out with hacking among russian groups

>> No.22204301

>>22204131
Seriously eopbros itt, if you think in 5 years from now you will remain as weeaboo as you are today take the joppill, you'll never have to seriously deal with self aggrandizing attention whores like that in your hobby ever again. They don't only exist in the bl/og sphere.

>> No.22204946
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Based and homopilled

>> No.22205187

>>22204147
Is that the gift scene

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>>22204946
I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day everyone will graduate from otome games and advance to BL.

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22205432

>>22205187
Yeah, the one with the finger

>> No.22205439

>>22205345
I dont like looking at Male dicks. There so ugly. And most of the protags acts like a women which defeats the purpose
>>22204946
They seem just like those cgdctfags who burnt there manga cause one of the chatacters was revealed to have a bf in the past

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>>22205439
Just play decent games for good protags desu, there're also sabers or mosaics dicks for people with special needs.
Speaking of no dicks, which otome games have actual yuri routes?

>> No.22205581

>>22204131
I believe it's because of how the work is divided in the group.
I've started collar x malice unlimited and diabolik lovers limited V edition. CxM Unlimited is translated 80% one year after started. And Diabolik Lovers V Edition despite having a lot of existing translation on the internet, hardly anyone let us borrow their translation so we have to re-do 70% of it. And after one year it's done.
Our system is using real-time online syncing google sheets, so basically you can see who is doing what and at when. It's easy for the leader to monitor the entire process, and they can tell if someone isn't doing their work and try to assign somebody else as soon as possible.
>>22204147
Yes, actually I didn't do anything after limited V edition because I shouldn't. But there are scripts that I extracted for future projects sit still in my computer so I thought might as well put them and see if anyone is interested in starting their own project using scripts I extracted.

So don't worry, I won't ruin anything now :)

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>>22205581
>So don't worry, I won't ruin anything now :)
何卒ご容赦くださいますようお願い申し上げますっ!!

>> No.22205688

>>22205612
Haha yes, sorry for that. I shouldn't do any fan translation or lead any fan translation group. So now I just putting up scripts for those interested. No need to worry :)

>> No.22206009

>>22205439
>I dont like looking at Male dicks.
While I enjoy BL, I do agree with this. Whenever BL game localizers boast about having uncensored dicks as a bonus or when BL manga scanlators boast about redrawing dicks I don't see the appeal. Looking at cocks seems like the least appealing thing about a sex scene IMO.

>> No.22206032

Who the fuck is R*ishiki

>> No.22206234

https://twitter.com/tenran_AKATSUKI/status/1180846467491086336
Dynamic water fountain.

>> No.22206265

>>22206032
Hi there, I'm Reishiki & I like to fan translate games I love, both to English and to my native language ^^
I've started a fan translation group last year to translate Collar x Malice Unlimited, we translated 80% of it but Aksys announce an official English release next year so we dropped the project.

We also fan translated Diabolik Lovers Limited V Edition to English & release a patch. But due to certain circumstances, I had to release it for people have proof of purchase the game only. That makes people mad but unfortunately, that's the only way I can think of to get more translators to work on the project and be on the safer side. As I'm new to the otome world, I don't know any translators or bloggers that can help me translate those games. So the only way for me to get people to know about the project is by promoting them in otome game forums/facebook. But they won't help me promote unless I state the project only for people who has bought the game. That's one of the reason. The other reason is I don't want to get DCMA'ed and waste all the translator's effort when we're forced to stop.

Later this year I started a community project: Otogelib, it's a library of scripts I extracted for people interested in using them to translate games/learn Japanese. They are not my translation project. Basically anyone can step up and take these projects as a group leader, then find more people to help them translate the game. When they completed translating, and they wish to make a patch, I'll help them do it to the best of my ability. How they're distributing the patch is up to them.

My one and only wish is to have more fan translation, nothing more, nothing less. If you can help, I really appreciate it. Thank you for reading :)

>> No.22206418

>>22205439
>>22206009
Have you guys considered that you might be lesbians...
Also 'male dicks' as if there are any other kind...

>> No.22206442

>>22206265
Jesus, why are translation communities full of shitty spics like you? You barely know English and Japanese, yet you bull forward with "translations".

>> No.22206767

>>22206265
If you really wanted to just distribute the extracted text and then stay away from it all, why would you require people to apply for translating/proof-reading? Just post the files somewhere and leave.
You keep saying they're not your projects and that anyone can take up the role of a group leader, yet people still need to get through you to get to those files.
This whole "sign up to become a translator :)" reeks of recruiting others to do the work for you.

>> No.22207109

>>22206442
I'm not participating in translating, I help with maintaining and technical stuff. Like manage the group, recruiting people, monitoring the process, test the patch multiple times if it works in the game, fix the font file and its problems like spacing etc... There are really a lot of things to do as a leader of a translation group other than translating.

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Best boy.

>> No.22207135

>>22206767
I'm sorry if my intention have been misunderstood. At first I do let them see the scripts but people accused me of distributing the whole script like that would prevent people from buying the game, since they can just read the script and don't buy the game.
I had to make the sheets private because of that.
I require them applying because it's easier for whoever gonna manage that project. They can keep track of who edited what and prevent malicious people of destroying the translation, or using machine translator. I only do that so they can work easier as a translation team. The way the scripts file were divided to translators is a mess. Normally they would give some files to a translator, tell them to finish it, they can take it. tell the leader they're translating, and then disappear forever while the leader is still waiting for them to give the translation back.
But it's not the case with google sheet, you know exactly when a translator is translating, when they're not doing anything even though they said they did. You can monitor the process closely.
I had that in mind when I require them to apply using emails. I mean I can give the form application to anyone if they wish to help. Really.
I'm sorry my English is not the best out there, but I only had good intentions and I do have good reasons for the thing I did. Still, I'm sorry if you guys feel offended by what I did.

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who let d*scord raid us

>> No.22207162

>>22207113
I wouldn't have minded if he had been the only guy with a route desu

>> No.22207241

are there any recommended games for shotas/DCs?
Touken ranbu has a lot, but there's not much interaction. Otome/BL/Gacha, anything is fine

>> No.22207534

>>22207136
I feel bad for giving that first post a (You) even if it was to make a joke.
It's astounding that they multiplied and there's even one with a name now. Must be nice having so much free time.

>> No.22207598

>>22205439
>I dont like looking at Male dicks
Do you like looking at female dicks?

>> No.22207617

>>22207241
Doesn't SideM have some shotas

>> No.22207618
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>>22207241
Yume100 has cute 8-year-olds, A3 has middle schoolers (though 2 of them graduated in the timeskip), Wataru's route in Brothers Conflict, Danzai no Maria (everyone is 14/15) and Zettai Meikyuu Grimm (the MC and her cousin are technically 10-year-olds who were comatose for a couple of years)

>> No.22207623

>>22207598
Nothing can top femc suddenly flipping out her pretty, feminine dick during the sex scene and raping the love interest

>> No.22207624

>>22207598
Who doesn't? Everyone knows that feminine penises are cuter.

>> No.22207724

>recruiter doesn't even participate in the translation itself
>anyone out there willing to translate these games for me ^^
>not my project but you need to apply for a position through me ^^
>closely monitors if people who are working for free are doing their job properly
No sensible human will join your bullshit project. Stop namefagging and go back.

>> No.22208051

>>22207724
>>22207724
Say what you want but they are not my project. I always accept all applications.
If you can go hack and extract text of a vita game, then repack it back, edit images/videos, by all means do so. I won't be needed anymore. I have means to do fan translation, and I need translators. What's so wrong about me starting a translation group because of that?
I only reply here because I don't want future projects being ruined by someone making Otogelib look bad, as there might be potential translators here. Anyways, I said what I needed to say. Have a good day :)

>> No.22208162

>>22175032
It would be about 50 hours if you were a slow reader. I finished the first route in a single 16 hour session (testament to how hooked I was, despite the flaws). Unless the other routes are massively extended, I think I can finish by 30-35 hours.

Random thoughts:
- I usually hate time travel shenanigans but since I'm mostly ambivalent about Hashihime's use of it I guess they executed it well
- Sadly fell prey to the usual convoluted and highly unrealistic/implausible scenario reveal that many VNs do. Only detracts from the characters themselves a little thankfully, but I was kind of lost and not super interested between Minakami's final kidnapping and whatever the fuck Mask Dude was doing in the facility.
- The somewhat questionable narrative directions can work because of how much of an unsympathetic shitheel MC is, but I feel some of the scenario writers were clearly better than others.
- Only saw one sex scene so far obviously but it was long and so fucking good. Biased because it had some of my favourite things but I have high hopes for the remaining ones assuming they aren't N+C-style gore fests
- On that note, I'm sad because Minakami is my favourite so I probably got the best scene first and the rest won't be as good.

Overall the main route was pleasantly good, painful, and worth ploughing through in one sitting. MC has a strong personality that one might be uncomfortable self-inserting to (and if you can do it easily, you might have to do some soul-searching). The game is better for it though- a generic nice guy MC wouldn't be able to make this story work at all.

>> No.22208197

>>22186157
This is Otome, isn't it.

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>>22208162
>tfw easiest time self-inserting ever
Not sure if this improves your hashihime experience but minakami is the one mc loves regardless of the route

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>>22208162
>Still on the first route
Oh sweety...
>>22208162
>- The somewhat questionable narrative directions can work because of how much of an unsympathetic shitheel MC is, but I feel some of the scenario writers were clearly better than others.
I think it was done rather well. It's intentionally written that way, he's a repulsive shitbang that slowly matures in a better person.
>- Only saw one sex scene so far obviously but it was long and so fucking good. Biased because it had some of my favourite things but I have high hopes for the remaining ones

My only issue with the sex scene was that it it happened too fast, the epilogue could have used some small time skips so they don't fuck after his grandma died in the place Tamamori's mother died. Loved that Tamamori was 100% into it and even tried to seduce Minakami when he tried to leave, Minakami also wanting to hold back broke the usual seme stereotypes, it felt like a nice sex scene between two people who loved each other first and foremost.
>- On that note, I'm sad because Minakami is my favourite so I probably got the best scene first and the rest won't be as good.

Good taste. Personally I liked Kawase and I though Hanazawa was going to be my type, but Minakami completely won me over. Honestly, you could cut the routes and release Minakami as a standalone routes and the game would be 100% better.

>> No.22208309

>>22208162
>>22208274
I haven't started on the third route yet but I agree in that I doubt any of the other routes are going to be as satisifying as the first for me. Though the second one was all right. I'm aware that apparently it's all downhill from here but I want to see this through to the end. I doubt this game can be any less satisfying than NTY was.

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>>22208309
>. I doubt this game can be any less satisfying than NTY was.
I think the issue with NTY was two routes were basically duds and there wasn't a true route tying everything together, but at least nothing that ruined the story, for what I remember.

Also, some pretty fappable sex scenes.

>> No.22208351

What's wrong with NTY? I remember it being fairly hyped back then.

>> No.22208417

>>22208351
Nothing. Just some people hyped it up as some kind of bl savior when in fact the game is mediocre. those body types are shit too

>> No.22208422

>>22208417
It was just Good_Haro for what I remember.

>> No.22208448

>>22208351
This is just my opinion, but I found it disappointing cause none of the routes had a satisfying conclusion to their story. Also it had a lot of detailed sex scenes but most of the time they involved the bottom not enjoying himself in the slighest. From what I remember Hiroyuki was the only guy who ended up enjoying himself after like the 3rd sex scene of his route.

>> No.22208482

>>22208448
Glasses was the worst, it felt like romancing a piece of ice.
Hiro was indeed nice. Pops was OK if you have a semi-incest fetish.

>> No.22208506

>>22208162
>some of the scenario writers were clearly better than others
Wasn't it all written by one person?

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>>22208506
Vnbd says that everything except for the ost and voice acting is done by Kurosawa Rinko
Has anyone played the vita version? What are the differences from the pc ver?

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>>22208530
The side stories included in official site are included in the version and voiced. OP is different.

Porn is probably censored I guess.

I think it's obvious the game was done by one person, if you look at the whole package it's obvious where she was going with the story, it's just that it didn't work.

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>>22208294
Kawase is a giant red flag sprouting other red flags for abuse and torture which is not my thing, but I will read out of morbid curiosity. Hanazawa seemed like the stoic bro type but now I'm not sure he won't do something odd like sticking his literal sword hilt in MC's ass as a display of love. God damn it, Hakase.

I actually enjoyed MC's disposition once I got over the early cringe. It was handled well and led to great tear-down moments from other characters. I also remarked about needing to some soul-searching if one related to him too much; part of the pain was because I couldn't blame him for feeling detached and remorseless when Minakami died. Especially when he didn't care about the loss of a friend so much as a loss of someone he could emotionally sponge off of. The lowest points for the MC were harsh and well-deserved but led to much better things. Absolutely can't complain about how his transformation was handled.

>>22208274
That's good to know; stories that try to have MC fall in love with any of the characters are usually weaker for the sake of sex. It's a fine trade-off to make but sometimes I want a tight story instead of lots of sexy time. Hashihime mostly scratched that itch but based on other's comments maybe I don't want to go into the other routes with high expectations.

>>22208506
I thought I saw six-seven names under the scenario writing credits section, but I might have been delusional at the end of my unintended marathon.

>> No.22208650

I finally arrived at Hashihime's fourth chapter. I'm getting confused as fuck from this ride while the literary references distract, and tempt me away from the game. It was interesting to see Yuureitou, Takasugi's poem, and the other weirdly fascinating summaries of old books.

>> No.22208663

>>22208650
I don't think the work is that confusing to be honest? Most of the references are self-explanatory.

>> No.22208667

>>22208637
Well, I'm curious to read your opinion of Kawase and Hanazawa once you get over their routes then.

>> No.22208701

>>22208650
The little dictionary notes helped a lot. Though now I'm interested in some Japanese Literature I'd never thought of reading before.

I don't feel like I was left out by all the references and allusions

>>22208667
It's very hard to resist spoiling myself to find out who's next after the main route. Kind of hope it's Hakaze or Hanazawa to find out some more plot-related things that were left dangling open, but getting Kawase out of the way is fine too.

Please tell me the serial killer adopted son is not an option.

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>>22208701
He's an option but that's not the worst part though.

>> No.22208815

>>22208663
Oh no. I meant something like >>22208701 where I got more interested in Japanese literature thanks to the game mentioning them. As for my confusion, I guess it'll get cleared up once I see more of Minakami's story.

>> No.22208817

>>22208701
The other routes aren't very long, so if you stop visiting /jp/ you can probably make it without getting spoiled. Kawase is probably the longest one and that's not that long.

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>>22208762
Fuck

>>22208817
Can't right now unfortunately, so I am biding time ITT. Figured most routes wouldn't be as long as the main route since they will probably be set up as deviations rather than proper stories in their own right.

>> No.22209113

>>22208637
Those names are nipponese writers mentioned in the story, you baka-ass mofo.

>> No.22209179

>>22209113
It was about 6am and I was still riding high from the ending. I am indeed a baka.

>> No.22209542

Should I play SideM LoS or the original?

>> No.22209574

>>22207623
>>22207624
absolutely fuck you two

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What the fuck guys. I was not expecting DEEP WISDOM from a fucking VN of all things.

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>>22209574
Only if your penis is cute

>> No.22209646

>>22209542
the one with game play

>> No.22209818

I found Hashihime fun. The art, the character designs, the music were simple but pleasant, and created a light atmosphere. It doesn't take itself seriously and doesn't try to be deep or angsty. Route wise, it gets worse the deeper you go. It is sad that the first one the best. Kawase was better than expected. Professor was both sweet and creepy. The ending was just boring and unconfortable; if they removed the h-scene and the whole tard grooming it could be a nice ending.
Anyway, anyone played this v19726? Is it worth the time?

>> No.22210391

>>22208667
It hurts so much man. Seeing asshole Tamamori blaming Minakami for shit that's not his fault while knowing his reasons for killing himself, and how he feels towards Tamamori hurts more than I can bear. Especially since Kawase has yet to show any redeeming traits so far and I don't think he ever will.

I was kind of surprised how badly writing off the Frog Man and replacing him with the pimp snake got to me. Glad he came back, squeaky voice and all.

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>>22208762
I feel sorry for the people reading Hashihime and reading the first routes. I genuinely thought it was one of the best novels I read and it was refreshing to have a BL in english that was plot focused and somewhat competent at it, but then that fucking ending.

>> No.22211656

>>22211252
Kind of makes me wonder why they went for a restricted route at the start instead of doing the usual thing and letting people find their way through the first four, then do the last when it's unlocked. Easier to get to know and appreciate characters that way.

Like I'd probably have gotten to Minakami last if I went in blind. And that would have been so much better than unlocking each one as I went since not only is Minakami the only real "love", it's my favourite pay-off scene, so to speak.

>> No.22211700

>>22211656
It's probably because the story structure is written so you find out more things as you progress. Minakami's route laid out the basic story and is rules while the other routes further expand some details.

>> No.22211880

>read review on piofiore
>complains about all the rape and shit
It's a mafia game
What were they expecting? Why do people want japanese stuff to adhere to there western morals, Just play those shitty western visual novels owht the tumblr noses and the options to choose 4 genders

>> No.22211887

>>22205688
Holy shit if you want to do fan translations or whatever just fucking do it. Stop trying to justify it and write 6 paragraph essays

>> No.22211916

>>22211880
Just imagine in a different prudeless universe we could be having the nasty stuff male aimed vns have, ikemen rape assault violent semen inferno and shit

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>>22211880
Don't remind me
>Some western devs announce a VN
>"Nice I guess, maybe it will look good and I'll have some to play with hot dudes"
>Tumblr noses, shitty art style, half of the characters aren't even men but bi gender women

>> No.22212100

>>22211880
Considering how dialovers has a western fanbase and normie women like 50shades and twilight it feels like the people complaining are more of a minority sometimes. Like a specific subgroup of people trying very had to be #woke for the lefty progressive twitter and tumblr crowd.

>> No.22212288

>>22211880
I went to read one now too. You were right, that's a whole lotta complaining.
Maybe I'll actually check that one out though cause nasty yanderes and abuse.

Western games like Cute Demon Crashers just feel very tame and patronising.

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>>22211880
Women have been getting off to western romantic novels with rape since forever. Have they just woken up

>> No.22212634

>>22211880
>>22212613
Meh, people who get triggered by rape exist for all sexes. Look at /a/ every time their female characters aren't pure anymore.

>> No.22212662

>>22212634
What I mean is that, western novels where the main character gets raped have existed for a really long time and no one minded, because some people do have fetish for that in fiction. So where have the triggered people come from and why are they acting like it's something new and scandalous
Real retards aside, dumb fucks on /a/ are mostly shitposting about muh impure waifus

>> No.22212915

>>22211880
If you're talking about the first review that pops out when you search for it that reviewer always complains about the guys either being dominant, manipulative or assholes but has no problems if the FeMC is the one taking all the lead. Think they're expecting a FeMC who beats up all the boys but they didn't get it there. Either way expect a lot of bitching when the game officially comes out in the West especially regarding the chinese guy because he's objectively the worst guy Otomate has produced recently. I read a post somewhere where they explain their thoughts regarding the game and it's 95% bitching about the dark themes it had and I can easily point out 5 mistakes that they wrote regarding the characters and story so it made it obvious that they haven't played the game and probably just read a negative review somewhere.

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The writer sure loves to bully MC like this in every sex scene.

>> No.22214106

>>22213864
Kawase being better at sex than Minakami was pretty funny. I guess this is what happens when you whoere yourself to old men.

>> No.22214203

>>22212634
>/a/ - Goblins

West and east agree: rape is a more shocking story element than murder.

>> No.22214585

>>22213864
So how did you like Kawase.

>> No.22214615

How are the Hakuoki games that are on steam? I want to play a game where you date cute boys. Are there any other nice otome/bl games on steam?
My only previous experience with vns is a few hours of Dramatical Murder, and that was a long time ago.

>> No.22214627

>>22211880
Is that breadmasterlee? Yeah they complain about any otome that has a dude who isnt 100 percent nice and vanilla

>> No.22214758

>>22214615
There's a rec chart in the OP.

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>>22214615
Hakuouki is an otome classic.

>> No.22214796

>>22214615
Click the otome tag underneath hakuoki's steam page, and click the boys love tag on DMMD's page. I recommend you stay away from things made by non japanese peoples and things published by sakuragames/dogenzoka labs. My starter suggestion with would be London Detective Mysteria. Have fun, love boys.

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>>22214585
I didn't like him at first but he grew on me. It was kind of sad to realize how all of these dudes ended up feeling about MC. Though Minakami is still my fave overal.

I actually ended up binge reading the rest of the game this afternoon starting from Hanazawa's route, after having completed the first 2 routes on earlier days.
I gotta say that the professor is incredibly moe, especially in the spoiler screencap.
Also I share the sentiment people had about the final route. I already had a feeling the whole game was going to be some sort of fictional story in-universe considering the theme of hallucinations and books that was already established beforehand, so it wasn't that much of a shock in the end. It does make you wonder what even the point was of all the other routes if they weren't real. The part where he ended up having the giant retard as both a fuckpet and a son was also pretty baffling.
I don't entirely regret my purchase since I had fun for most of it, but this final route is giving me a similar feeling that the final route in dramatical murder gave me once I realised how retarded it was.

>> No.22214847

>>22214585
I'm not that anon but probably the one you confused him for since the discussion about Kawase and Hanazawa.

Kawase was surprisingly tender, though the whole "I don't really love you, I actually kind of hate you, but I care about you so let's have sex" thing was confusing. I'm glad it didn't spiral into N+C bad-end territory like it could have.
Very very very sad there was probably no follow up on the menage-a-trois suggestion.


In the end I guess I appreciate Hashihime's subdued approach. What would have been borderline nightmare fuel in another game was quite tame and emotional. Kawase wasn't the violently abusive asshole I thought he'd be; he was a sadist dom with a serious weak spot for Tokimori instead. Much better than I thought.

I also appreciate that the game, for as many flaws as it has, doesn't try to excuse poor behaviour. Kawase's horrific actions aren't seen as inevitable or something that can be fixed with MC's dick. His past is there to give it context rather than absolve him. MC isn't falling head over heels for his abusive behavior and actually dislikes him for it. It's slightly better than the usual shit in these games so I appreciate it.

Getting ready for Hanazawa's story. I'm actually wondering how anything is going to work with him given what was learned through the previous two iterations.

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How did this even get a localization announcment before even being released in japan

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>>22214847
>>22214829
Similar impressions to mine, I was pleasantly surprised when he didn't turn out a rapist too yeah, the sex was weird but oddly consensual. Their relationship felt more driven by lust than romantic feelings (Even if they are there), even in the end they don't act like the married couple Minakami and Tamamori are but their relationship still has a way to go. (I think in the post-game stories they fuck a lot of but they still haven't defined what they actually are)


About the ending of the story (Don't open if you haven't finished it)>>22214829
>Also I share the sentiment people had about the final route. I already had a feeling the whole game was going to be some sort of fictional story in-universe considering the theme of hallucinations and books that was already established beforehand, so it wasn't that much of a shock in the end. It does make you wonder what even the point was of all the other routes if they weren't real. The part where he ended up having the giant retard as both a fuckpet and a son was also pretty baffling.
There isn't really a point, it's not even a good "dealing with grief" game I think because he barely deals with it, it's not like the protagonist wakes up, deals with the loss of his friends and starts to recover so he can become a better, more adjusted person, he uses the child he groomed as a human dildo to get off (Assuming the child isn't an illusion too, given he can see Tamamori's delusions), it's just tonally jarring after the game deal with a lot of human themes rather well (Except Hanazawa's route which is dogshit). The whole game just comes off as a sex fantasy from some dude who wanted to fuck his imaginary friends and get over it. Which would have been fine if they didn't make you care for these people for 30 hours to then throw everything away for a 1 hour long route filled with fucking a literal retard. Like the moment Tamamori wakes up and just goes "lol Minakami suicide was a fiction I wrote for a movie" made me scratch my nails against a wall.

>I don't entirely regret my purchase since I had fun for most of it, but this final route is giving me a similar feeling that the final route in dramatical murder gave me once I realised how retarded it was.

I can't say agree. DMM was retarded, but like similar games it doesn't invalidate your game, here I just feel like I wasted time. It's not even good jacking off material. Can't really recommend the game anymore. It's honestly one of the worst endings to a story I ever witness.

>> No.22215167

>>22215064
I won't spoil myself on the ending but having played DMMD to 100% I thought the ending was dumb but not entirely unforgiveable since I could just enjoy the better boys and their independent stories separately. With how intertwined Hashihime's routes are to each other I'm starting to worry though. I'm still riding on the high of Minakami's route, and Kawase's route going better than I expected reinforced it. Wonder how long that good will can last if it's as bad as folks are making it out to be.

>> No.22215355

>>22214615
Best steam otome games are Nightshade, Psychedelica, Amnesia, London, 7'scarlet and even Hakuoki. Avoid anything made by western publishers.
Stream prison, Ozmafia and everything written by hack Yuma is shit. Fantasy on dark has shitty translation

>> No.22215624

IT WAS ALL JUST A DREAM is probably the most overused trope authors use to appear DEEP.

>> No.22215794

>>22215355
i agree. ozmafia and steam prison honestly made me doze off while playing. i bought lterally all otomate games. I haven’t played those korean games by cheritz. are they worth playing?

>> No.22215888

>>22215794
I've only played Nameless, I found it nice. Definitely recommended if you like yandere guys since you get 3 of them. Despite that, it was also my first time seeing a harem end as the true end, don't know how that'll work in the long run though.

>> No.22216032

>>22215355
What similarities does Steam Prison's writing have to Ozmafia's, Ozmafia felt like a really shitty p2p mobile otoge with its bizarre way of handling routes, every event felt disjointed and cheap.

>> No.22216756

>>22215624
I agree (Hashihime spoilers)the worst thing is that there is no value to Hashihime's dream world, it's not like you are learning how the characters were in life and what was lost, or re-enacting the things Tamamori lost, it's straight up 100% pointless shit tha have nothing to do with anything.

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>>22216032
>shitty routes in general
>inconsistent writing for the mc but unlike ozmafia mc, this insufferable bitch thinks she's the hot shit yet she fails at everything single things she attempts to do
>she never grows as a character and remains an obnoxious, dumb fuck throughout the game
>love interests vary from bizarre to "please put me out of my misery" kind of boring
>the only character you'd want to fuck has no route
Maybe it would've been more enjoyable had I decided to pirate in instead. If you didn't enjoy ozmafia, I doubt you'd like this game

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>>22216899
*every single thing
*it
t. dumb bitch

>> No.22216985

>>22216899
>>22216943
The worst part is that he does have a route, but since it's Vita exclusive and Mangagamer only deals in PC games and doesn't port console content as far as I know, we're shit out of luck.
I still don't have a Vita (plenty of PSP stuff in the backlog) so I don't know if his route is any good, but knowing it's out there and I can't read it is a bit annoying.

>> No.22217395

>>22215888
Thanks! I think I will pass, no tooth for yandere and the thing you mentioned in true end. But it does look very nice.
>>22216899
I do enjoyed some of the steam prison moments but after played, I don't remember anything about most of them. Which is sad for an otome game. I don't know why mangagamer keep decided to pick up bad games like that. There are so many other good pc games out there.


Anyway is fashioning little miss lonesome is good for a non native english speaker? I can understand pretty well but might have trouble with idioms and american culture/humor

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>>22217395
>is fashioning little miss lonesome is good for a non native english speaker?
It has an advanced level of English, but doesn't contain too many phrasal verbs or idioms that can give you a headache. It's a friendly game overall. Sane level of English you find in Amnesia Memories.

>> No.22217438

>>22217395
>>22217395
>is fashioning little miss lonesome is good for a non native english speaker?
It has an advanced level of English, but doesn't contain too many phrasal verbs or idioms that can give you a headache. It's a friendly game overall. The same level of English you find in Amnesia Memories.

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>>22208667
I just finished Hanazawa's and all I have to say is what the fucking fuck was that ending.
What was that. What even happened. Did Hanazawa's massive dick rape session break Tokimori's sanity completely? Jesus fuck at least now I know pointing out that ancient melted ice in Hakase's house multiple times wasn't for nothing.

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>>22217504
Yeah, the route is complete dogshit. A shame because Hanazawa is by far the hottest boy (Looking wise) but it's route is rushed garbage.

Even the sex scene was poor, I guess they wanted it to be non-con but it felt like they didn't have the balls to go all the way with it anyway. And honestly it wasn't even needed, just have them try the fourth method normally and write an awkward sex scene, it's not like I would have hard time believing Tamamori would not enjoy quickly jumping into his pants, half of cast wanted to fuck Hanazawa. The route is also really short? Like it ends when it was about to get good.

But really as an eroge Hashihime is largely a failure because the sexy situations are largely absent and the porn is so rare (and the CG aren't very good for the porn, you never see the tops' dicks and there are no muscles) that every time it chooses to prioritize the porn over the plot the game suffer.

Funnily enough everyone I talked about this seem to have the same opinions of the routes, Minakami best, Kawase surprisingly likeable, Hanazawa what the fuck the were writing.

>> No.22217626

>>22217619
Tokimori himself looks the best to me, so I can understand why the cast wants to fuck his brains out despite his garbage (initial) personality. Minami a best in terms of personality and his scene was my favourite so far.
Starting Hakase's route and hoping he gets to be full dere.

Honestly I read a review that Hashihime's "doki" factor wasn't very high, and that's fine. I can replay pretty much any of the games I've already completed if I want lots of heart-pounding romantic moments. It's delivering a new experience to me and other than Hanazawa's route it's been exceptional so far. I'm aware this is probably going to change based on the comments about the true route but, well, I survived DMMD.

>> No.22218362

>>22215624
I agree, but I don't think Hashihime tried to be particularly 2deep4u.

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Good lord what a fucking trip. This polite American lying two-faced slutty bantzman is a riot. The story got so choppy and dumb that I forgot to be moved by the romance. I'm going to pass out from laughing. Fan favorite boy indeed. He only eats hamburgers and leaves dirty laundry all over his home. U - S - A

>> No.22220281

How long did it take you all to get to a point in Japanese where you could read VNs easily?

>> No.22220473

Fuck reject. I'm happy that's there shiity company is going bankrupt. Let this be a lesson to other otome companies not to piss off us Americans

>> No.22220544

Gonna build a demon harem in Digimon ReArise.

>> No.22220550

>>22220473
U-S-A! U-S-A!

>> No.22220580

>>22205470
>yuri
Try Chou no Doku, if you wanna have a bad time. No idea how it goes down in the port version since I've only played the original, and the fandisc.

I would've liked it if Kichou was also someone you could pursue in Yoshiwara Higanbana. She seems sturdier compared to the available guys after I saw all their bad ends. I like how the bad endings were written, but hot damn; it was fascinating to see those guys at their worst, and then compare them to their happier route counterparts.

>>22215888
There wasn't any afterstory for the true end, right? I've also wondered how it'll go with that arrangement of guys.

>>22216899
>>22216943
>>22216985
At least he finally has a route, and a chance for a happy ending in the port. I really felt sad for this dude when I kept running into him in other routes in the PC game.

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>>22220473
Ken ga Kimi will save them!

>> No.22220713

>>22220473
I thought they'd be milking dialovers, and their other old series forever. Why are they going down currently?

>> No.22220834

>>22220690
Ken ga Toki is out now, right?

>> No.22221076

>>22220834
Service starts later today.

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>>22220281
Don't bother keeping track of that stuff; rookie mistake. Go next door to /djt/, get your stuff and just stay consistent.

>> No.22221206

>>22221153
thanks dante

>> No.22221210

>>22220713
Don't you remember that one time when you illegally listened to seventh heaven cd? You've destroyed them, thieving gaijin slut

>> No.22221249

>>22207617
They have three, but SideM isn't a romance game and you can't get with anyone

>> No.22221261

>>22221249
Well they said they don't care.

>> No.22222301

>>22220473
Based trump

>> No.22222310

why didn't zero have a proper route in the CxM FD? They shoudnt have bothered if it was gonna end like that.

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Gotta say, now that I'm on the last route of Hashihime, I feel like this was intended all along. Just maybe not executed as well as it could have been. I don't know what to do with all these hurt feelings, please send help.

As long as it doesn't try to throw in one more twist before the end I think I can accept it all.

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>>22222901
It was obvious intended all along hence the why the game keeps referencing Dagra Magra and The White Haired Boy books, it's just that there is no value to the twist other than the fact it invalidates all of the game's character works and themes for... I don't know even know. Honestly the pre-awakening sequence in which Tamamori straight up makes fun of himself for falling into his nightmare is straight up offensive to me.

>minakamidiedforthis.png

There was never a Minakami so to speak, the real one died as a child, the one in the game is just a sex fantasy.

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>>22222980
I think it has some value in terms of author intent. I certainly don't enjoy the fact that all the boys I got attached to were figments of a crazy, damaged, and lonely man's imagination. It's even worse due to the true end being pic related. My feelings aren't "wasted", just... bittersweet more than they already were I guess. Can totally understand why the ending got the reaction it did from most people though. I can't believe Minakami's sweet deflowering scene isn't canon but fucking your adopted retarded son is.

I guess, more than anything, I like how MC is fucked up in some way from start to finish.
Even after he sheds his delusions and passes as a normal guy, he's still a son-fucker of a sociopath.
He's beyond redemption and he's never really truly likeable (except by the end of Minakami's route).
That's the first time I've experienced such a strongly written MC in a VN so maybe it's just a case of "babby's first" preventing me from rejecting it outright.

>> No.22223095

>>22223065
I honestly just pretend the last route never happened. It's the only way I can enjoy it in some form and the first two routes are the only one I care about. Either way I went from literally recommend it to everyone to "lonope."

>> No.22223108

>>22223095
Also curiosity, the vita port and official site include some post ending stories about the character are going, which makes the whole thing even more retarded in my eyes.

>> No.22223158

>>22220473
Dorico no Toshokan never

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>>22223095
I think I'd recommend it with the caveat that Hanazawa's route was as shitty as he was, and Hakase's route was nowhere near as good as he deserved. They felt incredibly rushed, like they needed to be there to justify the sex. In all I'd rate Hashihime maybe... 7/10. It kept me captive, it was mostly better written than what I was used to, and it scratched my itch for a plot-heavy eroge that delved into the MC's psyche rather than his romantic possibilities. And boy was there a lot to unpack with Tamamori. He's a repulsive person but I love him for it; I wish I could name another BL VN with such a memorable and strong MC but I can't. He's the greatest part of Hashihime.

That aside, I was happy to find out that Hakase was merely a hyper-competent cinnamon bun in love. I'm sorry for doubting you and you deserved so much better from this game.

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>>22223201
>He's a repulsive person but I love him for it; I wish I could name another BL VN with such a memorable and strong MC but I can't. He's the greatest part of Hashihime.
Can't say I agree given that most development isn't even real or relevant, sure Tamamori is a disgusting person, but his character to me is literally just "delusional old dude who fucks his son." I don't feel like the story is even particularly interested in condemning him or anything, Kaoru seems happy satisfying his father and the way he's written feels like he exists to justify his actions (He has super lust, he can't help it!) and Tamamori admits he doesn't really care about what society think. I think in the post-game story Tamamori himself even wonders it Kaoru isn't one of is delusion, iirc.

I can't say there is a story or a development other than basic facts. Like the way he used the "Kappa" to cover for the fact that Kawase tried to murder him was a legitimate interesting plot point but then the game takes that away and there is nothing there. Minakami's route Tamamori on other hand, was a trash person, he betrays, uses people, and even commits murder but these action have consequences and are part of his development. He shields himself from his feelings for Minakami by being in deep denial, but then you play the true route and realize there was never any denial, he was just living his BL fantasy or what the fuck. (Which makes all the things he did in the story relatively harmless anyway, since they are just fantasies)



To be honest, I read the game was going to have pseduo-incest before starting and once I finished the first route I thought it was like "ahah, Tamamori is going to fuck his adopted son from the future, typical VN writing, I wonder what kind of personality Kaoru is going to have." Then the true ending happened.

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>>22223287
Last route isn't supposed to be the true route according to this

>> No.22223342

>>22223287
I can 100% see that

I think for me, the ride is more important than the destination. So while I will be forever mad that Minakami's route isn't the true once since it has the best boy and most emotional pay-off in it, I appreciate the author taking me on this wild ride despite me begging for Karou to not be an option, much less the true one. Worst sex scene I've ever witnessed due to so many squick factors.

My emotional investment feels a little wasted, not going to lie, but being so betrayed is a sign of how captivated I was. I neglected a lot of sleep to finish this in four days. If Hakase and Hanazawa didn't have sad tumors for routes and the end-game wasn't my personal worst scenario pairing, I think I'd be able to recommend it without fear. Sadly those drawbacks really dampened my mood on the last half. I don't regret the time invested however, and hope that the author improves when they release a new one (and hope that it gets translated).

>>22223305
Sad to say I can't read moon but if that's so then I will pretend that Minakami's is.

>> No.22223359

>>22223342
>While he’s the last route players are able to reach, he’s not the 'true route’ in that sense.

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>>22223305
>>22223359
Doesn't the game itself contradict that?

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>>22223305
Also what are those stats? I wonder what are the JP players reactions I mean, even if you have a giant incest boner, it's not like Kaoru is particularly developed. I imagine Minakami and Kawase are bound to be more popular since they hit the childhood friend romance and sadist seme sweet notes and they actually have personalities.

>> No.22223385

>>22223373
Right is how long the route is if you play from the start. Left is how long the route is if you start from where it branches.

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>>22223385
Makes sense. Wow, they are more balance that way, but then again almost no one would do that and the main route feels written for Minakami anyway. Blue route feels longer than I expected, I guess it being like 50% porn makes it feel shorter.

Also yeah, I managed to translated the last tine and it does mention what you say, however it straight up isn't supported by the narrative? It's not like the routes are unrelated to each other, the last route straight up addressed fact that happened in the other routes.

>> No.22223521

>>22223408
They might be relying on the conceit that since Tamamori is an extremely unreliable narrator, this could be another one of his delusions. I agree in that the final route certainly feels like it was meant to be interpreted as the "true" one, especially given it's position as a forced unlocked route that is even granted the background cut of "The True Story". But perhaps they wanted to keep playing with us or try to placate angry people whose chosen boys ended up being delusions. Possibly supported by the fact that he kept his Hashihime eyes, the hangings of his friends were clearly a planned murder in line with what we've seen his future self do previously, and he was able to alter his appearance for Kaoru's sex scene. Ultimately I'd vote "trying to have their cake and eat it too" though. Trying to keep it vague so the player can have some comfort in believing what they want to.

>> No.22223831

>>22223095
> I went from literally recommend it to everyone to "lonope."

Same here. When the first route actually talked about homosexuality in a somewhat realistic way and the story genuinely pulled me in I was wondering if this could be something I could recommend to some people I know who are into japanese media enough to potentially be interested in BL games but are turned off by some of the more extreme fetish bait that a bunch of them have. My japanese isn't good enough yet to play untranslated games so for me that honest talk about homosexuality in a BL game was new.
I mean, don't get me wrong cause I don't actually have a problem with the hardcore fetish bait in a moralfag SJW type of way. I just have the urge to share hobbies I enjoy with people I know and I'm aware that for some people that sort of stuff is a deterrent and they could use something milder to ease them into the genre.

>> No.22223983

>>22223831
Oh I get you. Like, a wack and read some pretty fucked up shit, and it's not like incest porn isn't hot. But Hashihime's story was genuinely good and well constructed, with characters that I felt like had love put into it. I was genuinely into it not for the porn (Though I did love the sex scenes with Kawase and Minakami), but because it was a good game with a good story, and it was BL but it wasn't a dating sim (Which I find dreadfully boring). But even a game with fucked up shit can be good if it's done well.

Right now Hashihime has to me the same value of some porn game, except it's not a good porn game due to the porn/story ratio. May as well download Hadaka or NTY, at least the porn and the fucked up stuff flows well.

>>22223521
I can buy that Kauru himself is an illusion (Though it's a bit jarring, an illusion into an illusion? After how much the MC empathize him being "real"?), but anything else feels like wishful thinking based on circumstantial evidences, after all everything before the main character wakes up exists in the dream story still bound by the story's own internal logic (Which is largely good, as testament on how much Route 1-2 are solid as stand alone games)

I think Tamamori may have naturally blue eyes though. After all his time traveling powers are show to be not real when the dream world starts to collapse.

>> No.22224057

How is the new Rejet mobage?

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At lest I'm glad everyone agrees Minakami is best boy. Truly one of the best VN boys I experience.

>> No.22224964

>>22223158
They should release the full OP song at least.

>> No.22225141

>>22223983
Then why does old Tamamori have black eyes? And if time travel isn't real, he'd have no money to reinforce the shop/Kyyusaku Yumeno wouldn't have to become nihon's first mangaka.

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>>22225141
>Then why does old Tamamori have black eyes?
He doesn't, he has blue eyes in the final route. Unless you mean the other routes, but that's just a construct based on himself basically. It's just a bunch of lies.
>he'd have no money to reinforce the shop/Kyyusaku Yumeno wouldn't have to become nihon's first mangaka.
What do you mean? Hashihime is literally the book he wrote, that's how he became "famous" in the first place. He's actually talking with his publisher and he mentions Kyuuusaku wrote Dogra Maga years ago and then disappeared. Real Tamamori actually has talent, he's a genius, he used the disappearing Kyyusaku Yumeno in his own story.
The story is not happening in 1922, you are playing as 31 years old Tamamori self-inserting himself into his book/fantasy (The actual timeline is never explicit so it's hard to define when the book actually dropped) Notice how he still is living in the shop and he's not an editor, also the war already happened and Kaoru is there.

Remember Blue-eyes young Tamamori actually tried to go back in time before he fights the shopkeeper and he doesn't work anymore. His illusionary world is slowly coming apart, hence he pretty much kills the shopkeeper with his mind and teleport himself from Ikeda's manor (Who is actually alive) to his room in the studio.

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>>22225250
I've speed-read the last route, so thanks for writing this out senpai.

>Notice how he still is living in the shop and he's not an editor, also the war already happened and Kaoru is there.
Right, I missed it, took that bit about him killing his old self literally and thought it was happening ~10 years before the war too.
Then the deaths of Minakami/Kawase/Hanazawa in the village are left unexplained?

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>>22225375
>I've speed-read the last route, so thanks for writing this out senpai.
No worries, I was confused too until I re-read it a couple of times. Because the post awakening sequence still mixes the "real world" and the "fake world" together, hence why Tamamori still looks young and act like he doesn't know Kaoru but he has memories of his real self. The tips straight up mix the dream world and the real world together so they don't help either.
But once you realize the whole sequence at the manor is a pure fantasy (Tamamori straight up conjures a gun to kill his older self and becomes capable of teleportation) it makes a lot of more sense. He's literally into the story he built and he's slowly breaking free.

>Then the deaths of Minakami/Kawase/Hanazawa in the village are left unexplained?
Nope. If we go by Tamamori's internal thoughts they were found hanging, but we can also doubt that since nothing of it is mention in the "The true story" part. It's a good explanation as any, it's not like it matters much since these dudes basically just existed as a template for their fantasies counterparts, who were actually based on other people. The story is basically "friends died so I was so lonely I used escapism".

>> No.22226107

Is Hiiro no kakera 4 any good? I saw some fan PC port of it just now

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>hear the theme song to Akaya Akashiya Ayakashi no and decide right then and there that I want to play it
>there's an english patch
>even a dl of the game readily available
>get excited and switch locale + system language to Japanese to dive in like the good old days
>doesn't work and instead does this shit when I try to play
>can't even try out the patch since the game itself is apparently broken
>no idea what's causing it because what the fuck even is that error message

Goddamn why is this hobby full of suffering. I just wanted to enjoy spooky boys.

>> No.22227903

>>22227731
emulate the psp ver

>> No.22227996

>>22227731
My version of the game works just fine even with patch, don't give up, anon. Because the game is the definition of suffering

>> No.22228230

>>22227996
Are you emulating the PSP version like >>22227903
suggested? Or did you try to run it from a particular folder location?

I think the PC version I got is either corrupted or straight up fussy about where it's run from.

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>>22227731
It seems like you have a regional language issue related to non-Unicode languages.

Try this:

Control Panel >> Regional and Language Options >> Regional Options must be set to "Japanese" >> Advanced must be also set to "Japanese"

I had a similar issue with Kiniro no Corda for PC and this fixed everything.

I'm attaching a pic in case you have Win 8 - 10

I hope this helps!

>> No.22228554

>>22228490
Anon you are a god among men, I hope your wildest fantasies come true some day. Bless you and your post.

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>>22228554
Happy to help.
>I hope your wildest fantasies come true some day
I hope so too! Pic related

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>TVアニメ「スタンドマイヒーローズ PIECE OF TRUTH」OP主題歌
>「Thought I Knew ft.ra'z,Hayes」YVY
>作曲 Yutaka Yamada 作詞 Hayes

Based or based?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrjGAtAw45A

>> No.22228698

>>22228554
Related to this in case there are more saps like me running Windows 10

Settings > Time & Language > Language > Administrative language settings (under Related settings section at bottom). Under Language for non-Unicode programs, set the locale to Japanese.

You don't have to change the rest of your system settings to Japan/Japanese. Just this one obscure thing.

>>22228673
Wasn't he the dude who locked feMC up in a cage for daring to do some normal shit like leave her house and talk to other guys?

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>>22228698
Yes, it's that based bastard.

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>>22228682
>Based or based?
Ba(se)d.

>> No.22228767

Is there any good rythm game you could recommend me, /blog/?
I was a huge fan of UtaPri SN until chinks ruined it. I login just to get the daily gibs, not worth playing every fucking event.

>> No.22228776

>>22228767
Damn dude, just go to an arcade.

>> No.22228783

>>22228767
It's not /blog/ related, but Deemo

>> No.22228885

so i've read alot of popular BL, and only the stuff that is translated DMMd, Dmmdre, Enzai, Zettai Fukujuu Meirei
I noticed a lot of BL hasn't been translated at all after all these years of me not reading VNs, are they just not popular enough to translate?

>> No.22228903

>>22228885
There's a surprising amount that's been announced and taken care of already. Some complicated ones like Taishou Mebiusline might never see the light of day because no one wants to translate ancient Japanese, but there are more available now than ever. Companies like MangaGamer and JAST are adding BL to their rosters slowly but surely.

The truth is the English-speaking BL community is incredibly tiny and translating this shit takes a ton of effort. It's also not as guaranteed to profit as the endless cute girl eroges that get pumped out. I think we've come a long way from waiting 10 years for Lamento, but being a fan in an ultra-niche hobby means you are always left wanting.

>> No.22228908

>>22228903
guess it would just be easier to learn japanese

>> No.22228917

>>22228908
If you're serious about it, that's the way to go. Else you'll just have to pop in every few years like I do to see if something good got translated. Ganbatte.

>> No.22228922

>>22228917
ah yeah thanks man, im thinking of trying out no, thank you! seeing as that has been getting praise

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Why are these men so beautiful?

>> No.22228996

>>22228767
tokyo 7th sisters

>> No.22229009

If you don't live in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, there should be affordable nip classes in the evenings.

>> No.22229035

>>22229009
Nothing is affordable in commiefornia

>> No.22230151

>>22228959
I like the girl more.

>> No.22230420

>>22230151
There are no girls on that picture.

>> No.22230443

>>22230420
Damn, bamboozled yet again.

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>>22228959
Feminine penises desu. Can you fuck all of them?
>>22229009
t. third worlder in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with no nip classes
You can just study shit on your own, in the end it's only your desire to learn and the effort you put into it that matter

>> No.22230781

>>22228682
Catchy. I want it so bad, but Hikari no Akari has full ver. gatekept and I'm not a Disctard pleb.

>> No.22231027

>>22230443
by this point you should have used to it

>> No.22231032

>>22228767
Why a rhytm game?

>> No.22231081

>>22228490
>>22228698
Thanks to both of you.

>> No.22231306

>>22220473
What they did?

>> No.22231715

>>22228959
Yomi is an artist of incredible taste

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>>22231081
Glad it worked for you Anon. Everyone should get to enjoy these spooky boys who withhold crucial knowledge from each other.

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Ken ga Toki is kind of cool, actually. The combat is just like this other game I've played, crusader quest or something like that, but I enjoyed it so it's no problem for me. The art is great, and the music is incredible, as usual. Sensei is super pretty.

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Now that the bump limit has been reached, please future OP, choose something hot as thread pic.

>> No.22232700

>>22230781
The solo is not that expensive anyway (less than $2), but I prefer waiting until someone shares it publicly elsewhere.

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Need more demon boys

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>>22231081
You're welcome!

>> No.22233746

>>22209818
Beyond Eden? Yeah. It's pretty great for a revenge and redemptionBL story. It really went all out in the bad endings. Most of the cast did Nameless so the voiceacting was good. I was surprised that the MC had Lance's VA.

I finished Hashihime. I can finally read all the spoiler text for it. Hot damn. What a wild mess of a ride. I feel bad for Hanazawa, and the Professor. Their stories weren't as enjoyable as the first two routes. As for the last route, I wonder how the creator pitched this game? It's too bad the last character wasn't as well developed. It fell flat after the brilliance of Minakami's route, but then again Tamamori did say he was basing his old friends after a different author's story. After rereading the lines from various routes, the game has been giving hints for the true story's layout. I'm just disappointed at how it ended.

>> No.22233847

Game where you overthrow the bourgeois and seize the means of production?

>> No.22233869

>>22233847
Oh thank God this thread is dying.
I know this is a general but you don't need to be so mean as to shitpost here like this.

>> No.22233996

>>22233746
Seems to be the general consensus. "Amazing first route, great promise and premise, fell flat at the end."

Honestly I think the biggest curse for the game was the narrative structure. Having to follow Minakami's story until pre-determined break points was a cool thing, but only Kawase's route was given enough time to truly branch away from it and become a proper route in it's own right. Hanazawa, Hakase, and the True route didn't have proper lengths since they needed to be somewhat equal in time taken, as if the Skip/fast auto text didn't exist for each iteration. If they were allowed to be at least as long as Kawase's I think it would have gone a lot better. As it was, it felt like I was reading the outline of a story rather than a proper one once the routes switched.
Nothing can make the retarded son fucking better though, that really left a sour taste in my mouth.

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>>22233746
>After rereading the lines from various routes
I noticed it too, but it doesn't make the story less dogshit anyway since the hints works both ways as illusions and delusions are strong themes of the four routes. Just look he used his delusions to rationalized the fact that Kawase wanted to kill him as a child.

The twist would have world if the last route was like 10 hours long and Kaoru was actually a character maybe, but even then I doubt I wouldn't be bitter became Minakami's route is a legitimate good story and the tulpas are not particularly relevant to anything. I struggle to even call Hashihime "a game with story".

>> No.22234241

>>22233996
The other npcs were also utilized properly in Kawase's route which was a big plus. Like a mirror between the Madam's story, and Naoshi's. I can't believe I was right on my hunch that there was something about the Madam due to her voice. By the time the other routes rolled around, I came to like Sazan, and Hirotsurugi too. Even if it was all a consistent fabrication.

>If they were allowed to be at least as long as Kawase's
Yeah, totally. I really liked Hanazawa's struggle, but that weird slide from the middle point to the end made me angry. Then again, having the game end like that befits the thoughts of a lonely local mad literary genius.

>>22234031
Kawase's was where I first started seeing those hints too when I started playing the game. The one about the book being the writer's thoughts, and the 'what is love' question.

I wonder if the four dudes were based on the mitama concept: Kawase for aramitama, Minakami for nigimitama, Hanazawa for sakimitama, and the Professor for kushimitama as well with the last person or delusion(?) of Tamamori's uninhibited spirit.

>> No.22234281

>>22208530
>Kurosawa Rinko
I say, that was quite ambitious, and impressive for a single person to have done this barring the atmospheric ost, and voice acting. Anyone tried their first game Cocoon?

>> No.22234390

>>22233847
Bara ni Kakusareshi Verite

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