/jp/ - Otaku Culture

first for fuck anime cards

second for tenderly love anime cards

tfw you try to make some 麻婆豆腐 (vegan) to relive the days of eating 中華料理 in japan and it comes out looking like vomit

fuck aoba

>>22115577
lol that show was super boring

>>22115576
>fork
rip japanese gains

>>22115587
japanese use fork the problem is that looks like a little kiddie fork so maybe they should buy some real fork

>>22115587
im already a chopstick master don't worry

what radio are we listening to, its almost time for the japs to wake up :^)

we must greet them a good ohayo gozaimasu with our collective conscious energy

>>22115587
Japanese people use spoons anyway

would you guys be interested in a program where you can store texts that you have read in the past as to be able to compare it to a text that you are looking to read. The idea would be to be able to gauge how difficult or easy a new text would be to read. It could give you a percentage of known words or something like that. Could also suggest new things to read based on what you know. Would this sound interesting?

if you're ESL i think you're based :)

let’s give the japanese a big グッモーニン！

>>22115600
good idea but doesn’t this already exist

>>22115600
if you're choosing stuff to read based on how easy or hard it is you've already lost

>>22115601
thanks

>>22115612
this

>>22115604
>グッモーニン
goo moaning?

>>22115612
this

been getting a lot of passive aggressive responses to my posts recently

グーテンモルゲン niihon！！！！

>>22115635
You sound like a Fucking Baby

>>22115604
>グッモーニン！
too 長い; didn't 言う

pls be nice to moefriend

>>22115612
not if you prioritize fun first then use relative ease as your second qualifier. in that case you’re just being smart

Just cleared Learning Katakana! Bonzai!

pop quiz: read 来ず

i cant support this hostility towards moe cuz its what mousou girl would do

add me on mal ksesef4

>>22115661
i guessed correctly. what do i win?

>>22115678
the satisfaction I guess.

>>22115673
:)

whats your fave anime you're currently watching?

has anybody noticed that neither one of the the two djt sites is up on the op post?

Khatzumoto himself:
AJATT can and, left unattended, will become a cult or cult-like if you follow it to the letter (and humor alone will not save the day). You don’t have to be a male genital organ about it, but never withdraw your right to give me, or any idea I share with you, the figurative finger. More importantly, never stop reading other people’s ideas, many of which will be bad and bad for you, yes, but some of which will be good. In a way, the cure for bad information is more information, especially random, weird, outside-the-“outside-the-box”-box, serendipity-prone information. That is, not merely an increase in information quantity (which, by itself, actually starts to be bad for you relatively quickly), but an increase in the number of different qualities of information — the spread, if you will…basically, ecleticism.

>>22115688
next thread i will link a george grammar playlist

>listening to Japanese music
>need to put effort into analyzing what’s being said but only getting 10% recognition.
>see the transcription
>can read 95% of it no problem
Aside from music, the only audio I get is from watching Nihongo no Mori videos (n2 grammar videos atm) and for those I need to rewind to understand something like once every 5 videos, and pause to look up a word like twice per video.
Is my problem fairly common and I can just keep doing this and my listening comprehension will get better, or do I actually have to find something else to listen to, and if so any recommendations?
Every time Ive tried to commit to some non-music audio I find it to be such a chore and get burnt out on it.

>>22115705
half u tried anime or voice eroge?

>>22115705
yeah just continue but passive listening will help with this so I would add that

>>22115715
passive listening is bullshit unless it's 100% comprehensible input

>>22115673
>Overlord
>5
delete this rn

>>22115721
tell it to steve

>>22115721
why?

>>22115722
yea it deserves a 1

moeshitter

>>22115722
the first 2 episodes were garbage i doubt it gets better

>>22115725
if you don't understand it or don't recognize the manority of words you hear, then it's nothing less than incomprehensible white noise

>>22115724
steve's a major proponent of comprehensible over compelling input, so i can't imagine why you'd have said this.

>>22115721
doesn’t have to be 100% just high

I made it I can read with 100% comprehension but at the same time I am sick of everything Japanese and don't want to read anything what do I do?

im listening to japanese radio right now and it's not completely comprehensible i hope that triggers you

>>22115760
ok, off to smoke some weed for comprehension gainz

>>22115765
read western classics in nihongo.

>>22115705
Hate to break it to you but music is basically worthless as a learning resource. Singing sounds very different from speaking, and lyrics seldom tell any sort of coherent story.

If looking up every single word is too much of a hassle for you when listening to other content, then don't do it. Try just looking up words when you come across a line that you really want to understand, and otherwise being content with understanding however much you naturally understand.

It's a good idea to do some reading to supplement this though. Let's say you choose to watch seasonal anime, you can then read the source material for the shows you like after they finish.

>>22115705
anime or normal speaking on youtube
something youd understand 95% of if you were reading and you can at least understand enough to not be completely lost when listening is good and backing up to relisten is also good
as for being burnt out you just need to find something that interests you at all
if not anime then japanese people talking about something youre interested in

yeah and pitch accents are often really fucked in songs

>>22115721
>>22115742
this guy gets it

>>22115790
pitch accent is a meme promoted by matt for the sake of patreonbucks

>>22115793
nah its the kind of advice that gets people to listen to japanesepod101

>>22115749
he listens to "white noise" language all the time from day 1 and definitely doesnt wait till he knows 100% to listen

>>22115724
>>22115801

>>22115805
>I worked hard on my Croatian, but since arriving here I have found it very difficult to use the language at all.

>>22115805
that's because he's tried learning a bunch of other languages besides japanese, and hasn't had too much contact with japanese media

>>22115710
Yeah, and actually with anime I’ve found Chinese subs to be amazing because I can’t read them which makes me focus on understanding the audio.
Actually I’ve listened to some ASMR-ish type radio and it was pretty cool I can’t imagine listening to it everyday though.

>>22115715
Ok cool. I usually listen to music passively when I go for walks and when I get bored of walking I switch focus to the lyrics.

>>22115816
he lived in japan for 9 years man

>>22115742
say what you want, I've done 99% passive listening for 1 year and it worked great. At first everything was just white noise, i could pick out 5 words 私、食べる、飲む、走る、です，which makes things really fun to try and actively listen. I will never understand how people will watch anime or anything else while understanding 10% or less unless their doing anime cards, it only starts to become fun when you understand 90% and even then its probably not that much fun, might aswell just watch with english subs. I took the extremely lazy route, I believed in the magic khatz was telling people and I've seen it develop over time. After a year I could watch most animes, youtube channels and nhk news fine without any issues, how much effort do you think I put in for listening? every now and then the passive audio is just like that feeling you get when you've heard a song too much times so you have to put up something else, more than that not really any effort. this anwser will probably not satisfy you

てもね

>>22115765
stop lying on the internet

I think I am at a total motivational dead stop. Feels like I can't bring myself to do anything and any attempt feels extremely forced. I can't get myself to care about anything I watched or try to get and it all feels like a chore despite having no problem understanding. Really man this fucking sucks.

>>22115805
just imagine how steve felt when he read this comment

>>22115832
>despite having no problem understanding
>>22115830

>>22115828
>After a year I could watch most animes, youtube channels and nhk news fine without any issues
your whole post may as well have just been the single letter "a" repeated 400 times. you're just talking nonsense. under no possible circumstance could you be good enough after a year of any kind of study to watch 'most anime' etc, 'without any issues'

>>22115821
it's possible to forget stuff that you haven't been exposed to for a while.
after spending almost 3 years as a humanities student, i completely forgot nearly everything about calculus despite having done hundreds of exercises on limits, derivatives, and integrals back in high school.

>>22115844
Are you just projecting or what? Why do you have trouble believing that someone here can understand Japanese?

>>22115849
the question is why does it matter to if you're "motivated" if you already understand 100% of japanese? why would you need to keep doing stuff if you already know the language unless you think you have to keep doing it to learn?

>>22115856
because he doesnt know japanese

>>22115856
I said 100% because that's what it feels like in terms of comprehension, but there is still plenty of things I don't know and I do feel like I still have things to learn, as in I'm not on a near native level. Just a level where passing N1 would be very easy. And as I have done nothing but consume Japanese entertainment the last few years it has become my standard form of entertainment, whether I consider it learning or not.
Besides, this wasn't necessarily exclusive to consuming Japanese entertainment, but just a general feeling of not wanting to do literally anything. I wanted to do some programming and read a book both of with I have put off for weeks now.

>>22115856
repeated exposure is necessary in order to not forget stuff.

>>22115856
is your end goal 'knowing japanese'
are you learning japanese so you can put a sticker on your fridge that says 'i know japanese'
what a dumb ass thing to say lol

>>22115880
do u take anti depressant medication lol

>>22115880
>Just a level where passing N1 would be very easy.
what's your j猫 score?

>>22115782
Oh that’s a good idea. I had the dumb idea to read transcripts after but it was very boring that makes way more sense.
Also the thing about music reassuring because it helps explain why my comprehension is so low.

>>22115788
For YouTube I mainly like watching pseudo educational things and it’s so much better in English, plus Japanese wind up using so many loan words it’s silly. Hmm, I think anime makes the most sense for me, its so much worse in English that there’s no temptation to switch.

>>22115887
Didn't take it.

>>22115888
Nope.

suddenly I lost interest in vns/manga/anime
only watch a few of the mainstream anime every season
but I want to be able to talk with the locals when I go to Japan for fighting games event

>>22115895
why do u need attention so bad ... lol ....this 1 right here,,, is the last (((you))) u get from, me my guy hav a good 1

>>22115886
you're missing the point. if you know japanese you're not going to be worried about 'losing your motivation' because that would be the same as essentially losing the will to live at that point. who is really going to say "i lost my motivation for reading, watching TV, listening to music" lol. it just implies you see japanese as a learning only activity

>>22115895
then try showing us something that will confirm us that you know japanese, like trying to translate a passage from a literary work or a film scene

>>22115897
the way ur gonna learn is by going to play the video games and hangin out with the japanese ppl dude

it doesnt work the other way

>get super drunk
>wake up with headache
>forget huge swathes of nihongo in my brain
this ever happen to you bros?

>>22115909
the first two yeah but not the second

>>22115909
nah no money for me to get drunk


thats interesting tho bro

>>22115905
Actually yes I think I can say that. I don't listen to music anymore because I perceive it as noise that just disturbs my mental state. I don't watch TV because it's all trash and I have the impression that it is all for lesser people. I try to read things but quit before even 10 minutes have passed because it's boring, no matter in what language. There is nothing I want to do.

>>22115906
You can post something and if I feel like it I'll translate it. No guarantees though.

>>22115912
you can't always recall what you know you knew

>>22115909
i've kind of felt like that whenever i've had to sleep less than 7 hours

no one sent me a friend request

>>22115920
>Actually yes I think I can say that. I don't listen to music anymore because I perceive it as noise that just disturbs my mental state. I don't watch TV because it's all trash and I have the impression that it is all for lesser people. I try to read things but quit before even 10 minutes have passed because it's boring, no matter in what language. There is nothing I want to do.
why are you posting about it in djt then? it has nothing to do with japanese except you wanted to brag about 'knowing japanese' which probably isn't even true

スペインから戻りました
仕事のために行ったのであまり楽しくなかったけど

does this sound natural?

>>22115931
i dont use MAL i only have an anilist

>>22115937
nope it sounds like gaijin nihongo

why is it always an uppercaser thinking hes smart for extremely mundane things like "not enjoying tv"

>>22115832
A tip is to not to aim for enjoyable but for interesting. If you’re trying to enjoy it you’ll know in the back of your head that you could be getting way more dopamine kicks from a gacha game or porn.
Just spend a few minutes thinking about learning/studying Japanese. Come up with some limitations and goals that would make it interesting. Eg what’s the most Japanese you can study while doing the dishes? What’s the quietest you can listen to An anime and still understand it? How many flash cards can you review in 5 minutes? Etc

if i befriended moefiend on MAL, everybody would know how to look me up and doxx me.

>>22115937
>>22115939
+1

>>22115920
then go on a japanese speaking forum and post about your depression there?

>>22115947
no need to worry we are friends here

>>22115951
can you provide a better alternative so I could see what I did wrong?

>>22115955
or at least post in japanese here so i can make fun of you

>>22115959
you cant force your brain to be natural dude. you just have to expose yourself to thousands of hours of natural japanese and then it will flow naturally.

everything we know about dopamine is probably wrong

>>22115969
everything we think we know about everything is probably wrong

think i might go out and get drunk by myself tonight cause my life sucks and im shit at japanese

>>22115975
yeah look into "spriit science" if u wanna know the
real truth about everything

wrong and right are just arbitrary designations that correspond only to mental states of belief.
pay attention to le spookmeister.

>>22115918
You can get drunk on less than a dollar by making your own wine.

>>22115983
ok but i dont want to stomp on some grapes like im a fucking monkey from the amazon

>>22115920
Read something good obviously.

>>22115982
if that were the case we'd all be dead already

>>22115992
death is a spook too

>>22115987
you are a domesticated poodle of a human

>>22115847
Before I started passive listening/listening overall I did 6 months of grammar guides and just reading. Before I ever started learning japanese I watched around 2k hours of english subbed anime, but I don't think that contributed much since there was no intention of learning anything japanese. At the time I thought that I'd just pick up listening up when I was fluent in reading since I had tried listening but it was just noise so I quickly gave up on it, however I was dissfatisied with my progress overall. I came across matt's vid and tried it https://streamable.com/qceus

bunch of unlikable nerds
I hate you
大嫌い

>>22115821
i've heard stories of chinese immigrants forgetting a lot of chinese after a couple decades in the US.

>>22115999
i'm more like a duck

>120 posts
>20 posters
I don't remember djt being this dead lads

lol this general is just whiny faggot ugly nerds that have no friends crying about their shitty lives.

go watch some anime u fuckin losers

>>22115987
They don’t sell juice in your country?
1 litre of grape juice
1/4 teaspoon of yeast
Boom!

>>22116014
more like a cuck lmao

>>22116019
matt figured out how japanese is acquired so there isnt any point, we talk about ecelebs here
>>22116026
im not ugly

>>22115959
ill help u out this 1 time

スペイン出張から帰ってきました～＾＾ｖ

仕事だから楽しむ暇はなかったけどwwwwwww

>>22116031
whats your problem

>>22116041
still fucked up

>>22116000
were you really busy doing tons of other shit while passively immersing?
if you really know japanese just like you claim, you ought to have no problem translating any random fragment off anything, like the following:
>大地震のやっと静まった後、屋外に避難した人々は急に人懐しさを感じ出したらしい。向う三軒両隣を問はず、親しさうに話し合ったり、煙草や梨をすすめ合ったり、互に子供の守もりをしたりする景色は、渡辺町、田端、神明町、――殆ど至る処に見受けられたものである。
i'm not gonna laugh at you or do anything like that, but i want you to at least be able to measure the extent of your claims.

>>22116041
楽しむ暇
that's a new expression to me
thanks anon

>>22115828
this has kinda inspired me to give passive listening a shot considering i hate even 1 hour of active listening.

>>22116048
plz assist then and level us up

>>22116071
he still hasn't tried the jp-eng translation challenge i put out out for him (>>22116054), so we don't know yet if he actually knows lots of japanese or is just hovering above beginner level, but still far from his self-proclaimed n1 status

生害

>>22115905
>i lost my motivation for reading, watching TV, listening to music
that literally happens to people. like me.

hey guys i have a revolutionary suggestion: compelling content

>>22115765
learn Chinese and read Monkey King or Three Kingdoms or learn ancient Greek and read the Iliad and the Odyssey

>>22116132
what are the best languages for modern literature though

just watch koihime musou

>>22115909
it's the reverse for me.
>get super drunk
>fly through like 150 new kanji
>wake up after stupor and remember 98

>>22116138
modern literature is for faggots but you can never go wrong with French, Russian and German for literature

>>22116154
german seems cool other than it kind of sounds awful and i think like every german speaks english but maybe 15 years from now i will try learning it for fun

https://streamable.com/b6kya
friendly reminder that you'll end up talking like this with the MIA approach

>>22116054
Whenever I was at home I'd listen passively, I was never really busy just lazy, I feel that I could've gotten way more out of it if I just did actively too but I just didn't enjoy it that much honestly.

You may laugh, I'm not a good translator since I never do it but here I'll try:
When the great earthquake had finally subsided, it seems that the people that had evacuated outside had a sudden feeling of fondness for each and another. (人懐かしい idk how to translate it. ) The people, without questioning each other or having problems with each other, they talked to each other closely, shared tabacco and pears, protected the children of each other. This scene was seen in watanabechou, tahashi, kamiakarichou and in almost every other place.

I understood the text fine but I don't know the readings of 渡辺町、田端、神明長 and the expression was something I have never seen, altough I think it means something about the lines of not discerning which people you are close to. Especially in this context, since after the disaster their drama and problems with each other would of course be non-existant and they'd be happy to talk to each other.

>>22116165
https://www.cs.utah.edu/~gback/awfgrmlg.html
you soon.

Is Cross Channel really that hard to read in Japanese? I read the Ixrec TL a few years ago but I've always wanted to re-read it in Japanese when I felt comfortable enough.

>>22116181
japanese is quite different from english in terms of sentence structure, so i wouldn't blame you for having made an odd-sounding translation.

will i get laid if i go to japan and speak nihongo like an anime yakuza

>>22116222
only if you're rich, handsome, and are good at manipulating people

>>22116189
sort of but not really the big pitfall with cross channel is if u dont know japanese u cant appreciate how its written and enjoy simply reading it

of course theres the big brained thinkin man stuff that ull completely miss but the important thing is being able to flow along with it at face value at least initially

勘弁してくれ

>>22116235
i think being white and not fat is enough for many of them

but thats a guess :^)

このあと滅茶苦茶あんき__した

>keep seeing kanji words that i know
>still just read the furigana

its scary how powerful anime is as a tool to learn nihongo

>>22116252
control your 目線

>>22116247
the average 56er is browner and fatter than what japanese people could possibly stand

>>22116246
what a bitch

>>22116249
排除

why learn readings just make up your own

>>22116273
if you don't learn readings, you'll not be able to understand spoken japanese.

think VNs may be a lot better without music

>>22116282
what if the only spoken japanese you ever listen to has jap subs

>>22116282
what about words that no one ever says

>>22116282
what if ur fuckin deaf

>>22116303
or text boxes like VNs and games

>>22116256
how so

>>22116303
if you feel no wish to ever understand japanese outside of stuff that's got subs available on kitsunekko or visual novels, then i feel jealous of your complacency
>>22116306
>>22116312
the idea of subvocalizing stuff correctly seems important to me because i want to have a correct idea of japanese words. coming across a situation where i'd not know how to pronounce something would make me feel anxious.

do u think doing the monolingual transition too soon can possibly cripple someone ?

people who aspire to small goals and feel satisfied by them are more envy-worthy than people who achieve great goals, in my opinion.

>>22116348
forcing a monolingual transition after a certain number of cards the way mia kids do it seems kind of stupid because they'll probably not even understand most of the words used in definitions, and will ultimately have to recurr to either pictures or english translations to define stuff.

whatch'all watching?
(or reading)

>>22116341
what about words you'll never have to say in real life? like 文語

>>22116348
probably not it just slows u down a lot

the monolingual transition is a meme
what you should be doing is a transition from english definitions on your anki cards to japanese definitions
that's the only significant "transition"
not using english dictionaries to quickly look shit up is stupid, not in the least because jisho is miles ahead of any japanese dictionary out there in terms of usability

>>22116380
i've been wondering this for a long time
why do japanese online dictionaries suck so fucking bad? they're either too dumb to transform words into dictionary form automatically or are just clunky and ugly to sort through with a million random ads and unnecessary shit on the page

need a website like jisho but in japanese and with pitch

>>22116389
japanese web development is mostly stuck in the early 2000's

>>22116380
>the monolingual transition is a meme
>what you should be doing is the monolingual transition

>>22116393
web versions of daijirin don't have pitch for some reason, and i don't think online japanese dictionaries deconjugate words or anything like that for you in general anyhow

>>22116406
read again
monolingual transition in the ajatt sense means not using english dictionaries at all

>>22116393
none of the decent japanese dictionaries are free so no one can make a good dictionary site

anyone have the clip of george laughing at matt's face?

just read an erotic manga guessing meanings of the words i didn't know based on their kanji and the context, ignoring readings. went back to look up those words and i got all the meanings right. who needs readings

>>22116448
https://streamable.com/4b4ts

>>22116181
woah you nailed this shit and the dude stopped responding

i just re-watched 7 episodes off the air (2005) anime after finishing 2 routes from the vn. here's what i noticed:
1) the vocabulary in the anime dialogue was much simpler than the one in the vn (probably because most of the "difficult" words were in the descriptions), even though i couldn't understand the scenes set in the ancient time period.
2) it was a mess gobbled up out of several routes from the vn.
3) seeing everything animated, voiced made everything feel a lot more dramatic than in the vn. when people think of key forced drama, they usually think of the kyoani anime adaptations, not of the vns themselves.
4) seeing the protagonist's face and body around the screen makes everything feel so impersonal.

>>22116468
ty

the ass immersion approach lmfao

>>22116473
vn adapts are all bad without exception

cuz the whole point of these games is to spend time with the characters and feel like ur not alone

the animes are frankly nothin but glorified commercials to get more ppl to buy down the line

i like little busters the anime

>>22116497
>cuz the whole point of these games is to spend time with the characters and feel like ur not alone
yea i loved eating breakfast with that fucking retard every morning.

>>22116499
thats fuckign horrible dude misuzu is like my little retarded sister and no1 can replace her

i cried when kudo came home

>>22116506
no i mean that blue haired dude in angel beats.

litbus ani was truly an atrocity what a dick and what a shame

>>22116510
well ab was a anime first so theres some other issues there

>>22116492
sounds better than the real thing

>>22113183
>>22113183
>>22113183

imma just pray to the Lord real quick then imma watch some anime

>>22116412
it's a transition
the ultimate goal of that transition is not using english dictionaries at all, but it's a gradual process largely done through anki

>>22116591
uh in my mind that game doesnt have h scenes haha

>>22116468
>>22116180
imagine being a 40 year old man and getting this mad that some 20 year old dork made fun on you on the internet

instead of making childish slights like these, maybe he should finally learn to read the language he's trying to sell books about

挑む :^)

>>22116608
how is he mad, that just some friendly bants.

there are few people who deserve to get shit on more than george.

he can't even read games made for kids yet is selling books telling other people how to learn kanji. it beggars belief.

>>22116619
i understand the narration text boxes in vns really well but i cannot understand the dialogues between chars

>>22116608
imagine thinkin that laughin at someones smug side profile or animego is anger or even caring

>>22116623
tell george to stop forgetting how to pronounce words

>>22116634
meditation tranny tier logic

>>22116650
mousou girl would def say joojis head is full of dark negative feelings to laugh at someone like that

>>22116659
that's always the impression i had because he insists that people only learn words they want to use in conversation

〇 エッチ
〇 バカ
〇 ロリコン
〇 シスコン
〇 ダメな人
〇 変態野郎
X 善人
X 大女

>>22116660
nah, he gets triggered and starts insulting people and accusing them of being all sorts of things over way less

大小挙げればキリがないんですが

>>22116865
nuke fucked more japanese women than me

taihen backwards is hentai

アナルセックスが大好き

are there any good japanese vexilology or numismatics channels on youtube?

>>22116977
don't learn kanji learn words as they pop up

>>22116977
after uve seen a kanji 10000 times in compelling content ull have fairly strong association with the most common words uve seen it in and the most common readings
read more

>>22116977
Don’t listen to the trolls just do RTK.

seeing these beginners putting kangjee on a pedestal makes me sad

>>22116999
exactly i can't think of any benefit of RTK or other kanji things if you just do that

im doing sentence cards and i'd say im pretty based

>>22117229
reviewing cards with a sentence on the back instead of in front feels faster

>>22117322
im trying to raise a family here

>>22117333
doggy it is

>>22117340
i already have a couple kids for a couple languages im learning, japanese is one of them and i will nurture him with sentence cards

anyone else find themselves switching up their approach sometimes

>>22117424
you cant watch too much anime

>>22117491
if you had a disability would you want everyone treating you like shit?

if you do any card past n3 level you should probably kys

>>22117515
You're the one complaining about Japanese views of disability.

>>22117520
you sound fucked

>>22117532
idk anything about duolingo what i do know is that people here generally have the right idea on how to actually improve so you should listen to them

>>22117532
dont do either of those things

>>22117532
Duolingo is the number one resource for learning Japanese. I can not tell you how helpful it is.

is the recommended path still finish duolingo and then 2 hours of clozemaster a day until youre fluent

matt > quiz

>>22117545
the right way to learn japanese is to watch anime and read eroge till you can one day say 全部分かる
any other method will not work

>>22117573
>I wanna know if duoling is at least a decent place to start
Duolingo is cancer. It is by far the worst resource for learning Japanese there is. You would unironically learn more Japanese from learning Chinese than using duolingo.
Duolingo supposedly teaches many languages, and it does (not do) this by making all its courses as cookie cutter as possible.

Let me give you an example, if duolingo wanted to teach you the expression "it can't be helped", they wouldn't teach you "しょうがない", they would teach you some shit like "kore wa tetsudau ja nai", because duolingo isn't made for Japanese or its nuances it would just give you a literal translation that's probably wrong that is never used and wouldn't make any sense if you said it.

If you want to learn any language you need to seek out specific resources for that language, from Spanish to Russian to Arabic to Japanese, if you use "services" that offer multiple languages it's always going to be some soulless pointless waste of time because it isn't optimized for the language you're trying to learn.

no one will ever have to ask questions after i make my Guide to learning japanese

>>22117663
shut the hell up

would you encourage people to learn or acquire languages?

>>22117758
if it doesn't exist, make it

>>22117687
lol rekt

>>22117783
cringe

>>22117787
wait im on your side

Bonzai!

>>22117824
jaja

>>22117758
That MIA plug-in for Anki seems to work with lots of languages. You have to highlight the text though, not just hover.

>>>/wsg/3049044
what the hell

>>22117847
lol wtf

>>22117847
lmfao based and also nihonpilled kek

>>22117847
大和撫子

what did you accomplish today in japanese

>>22117901
everything

>>22117901
read 100k without having to look anything up

>>22117901
updated my morphs spreadsheet

>>22117847
dang brings a tear to my eye watchin my boys enjoy the good old shit

>>22117919
post screenshot and not from OhTalkWho

>>22118000
what the fuck is a ohtalkwho?

>>22118052
some guy who says cool after every sentence

lol wtf the robot servant was actually a human the whole time

おはようおにいちゃん

ころっけつくりたくなってきた

I can recommend the anime forそれでも世界は美しい to anyone who is a hentai. It's sort of like 俺の妹がこんなに可愛いわけがない except きりの is a princess.

so is there any practical reason at all to practice writing kanji?

>>22118176
About as much as knowing how to spell correctly in English.

>>22118187
Sowo towtawy irrewbelant.

>>22118187
>>22118191
not even close to the same thing since you only have to know a kanji's reading to be able to type it, not how to write it by hand

>oh, anon I heard you know japanese?
>yeah I've been learning it for a few years
>that's really cool, comon write something in japanese for us on the whiteboard
>umm.. err.. you see.. ummm

>ホワイトボード
わかりますよねおじいさま

>>22118216
>oh you cant handwrite how about you try saying something
https://streamable.com/5h81g

>>22118216
when would this ever happen? even if it did writing anything from the first 100 most common would impress a normie. still doesn't even seem practical just sounds like a party trick

偽装する
偽装をかける

explain the difference

>>22118269
if u were ever wondering what happened to this guy here he is erogaming 3 months after that vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuJrLcjCK8E

コロッケ

こげた

そうじ

しっぱいした

holy fug kino tabby is so lit

>>22118377
>>22118399
チェックしたが
お悔やみ申し上げました

There's an old anime I want to watch but there's no japanese subtitles available for it. Anybody know if there's a way to create them etc?

>>22118507
yeah, watch it and make the subs

fuck i love japanese so much YES

>>22118583
LETS GOO

>>22118276
wanikani is much less of a scam

>>22118591
wanikani is much less free

WaniKani isn't even a scam. if you stick to it you'll know a fuckton of vocab and a fuckton of kanjiz but its problem is that it's slow af and that they force you to memorize the names of their dumb radicals. otherwise it's not bad at all (considering WaniKani is not all you do for japanese)

with some friends at a “study party”. i’m reading a 小説 while they’re doing genki grammar exercises (like writing out かれの、かのじょの、かれらの in a notebook) and talking about taking the N4 next summer... sigh

コロッケがだめになったので

コロッケかいにいったら

コロッケもうなかった

i'm awoke and ready to make cool posts

>>22118733
don't they wonder why you're so much better than them? why don't you enlighten them?

>ywn be japan resident brian neale

Why is the 顔 in 泣き顔 pronounced がお?

I vaguely remember seeing this same thing before with some other kanji and grammar stuff like this is difficult to google for. Thanks in advance.

>>22119088
amateur hour

>>22119226
>t. someone who doesn't know but still wants to shit on someone

>>22119232
I think the bigger offense in my post is that I replied to reddit pasta

>>22118968
i mentioned to them “you guys should read books and stuff” and they were like “that’s easy for you to say you’re already at that level!” then i said the reason is because of reading but they were like “we’ll get there one day” and went back to their textbook stuff. didn’t wanna be pushier than that so i left it alone lol.

>>22119088
がを

>>22119246
you should've tried whipping up a page off one of those easy lns like ゼロの使い魔 for the sake of showing them how easy it is to read in japanese even without knowing a lot of japanese.

>>22118968
most such people don't want to be enlightened, they're dead set in their dekinai reddit ways

I am having an issue anons

How would you translate pic related?
The the picture replies the same thing but with が vs か, maybe is just Netflix subs being bad
They translate it to "do you still want me to be your teacher?" and they reply "you are the best"

>>22119372

>>22119356
you could've come up with some analogy with weightlifting, just as you could've talked about how reading lns is not really difficult, or you could've told them about how every complex sentence can be split into smaller, simpler fragments. you could've told them about how visual novels can help people get used to the kind of vocabulary and narration you'd see in lns.
there's lots of stuff you could've said. if you didn't say it that time, then you could say it if you ever happen to encounter them again.

>>22119372
>Are you okay with someone like me?

>>22119402
i'm not that person

>>22119404
Thanks

>>22119235
Sorry I don't browse reddit so I wouldn't know

think we know where you need to go back to

the main problem is this pre-conceived notion that native material is something you can only consider approaching after multiple years of textbook study and that if you don't understand everything in a given sentence immediately it's time to go back to grammar study

reading after finishing core6k > reading right away

>>22119464
reading after finishing core2k or vncore > wasting your time with core6k

>>22119464
said no one ever

>>22119490
i just did tho?

https://youtu.be/wrBFhsnBQ2k?t=311

>>22119496
unironically one of matto-dono's best videos

>>22119495
naw bro you wrote that
no speaking involved

>>22119356
Yeah its defintely hard as many people think they got it everything figured out themselves, even if presented with evidence that that is not the case. Your pretty good and its obvious you know better compared to them. What you could do is go to that study session every time, and just drop subtle hints every now and then about how their method sucks and that they're progressing slowly and probably aren't really getting good in a small period of time but also that the good stuff they think they will reach will probably never happen if they don't take the dive. And that doing more manga and reading will help them improve way faster. The seed will get planted at that point. After the seed is planted you just have to make sure it grows in a nice healthy flower that blooms all year long, and in order to make that happen you do some repetition like the above anon said about the weightlifting thing, you drop that every time when your with them subtly, and in a couple of weeks they will agree and probably focus more on what you then recommend them doing.

>>22119507
i spoke in mentelese when i thought about my post

>>22119464
I'm the guy who did core6k in 608 days and I approve this message

is understanding this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypI7knvORA the gohoubi of being fluent in japanese?

Reading easy stuff (よつばと！, はなひら, ななついろドロップス) while going through core2k > not reading till after finishing core2k or vncore

im still surprised to be the #1 itt

the big brained way of doing these core/beginner decks is to only test yourself on readings
you should of course try to remember the meaning of the word, but you should never fail a card based on not knowing the meaning, because you'll remember the meaning much more easily when you see the word used in context while reading
trying to remember the meanings of words in a vacuum is a waste of time

guys what's something that's good to read while you're having explosive diarrhea from eating ramen after sushi? I'm gonna be here a while I think

>>22119591
that's why you should never eat shitty food made by people other than yourself

>>22119596
I was with a girl you don't understand she said she never had ichiran please help kamisama I'm gonna die

>>22119591
Yotsuba? I was reading JKハルは異世界で娼婦になった (JK Haru wa Isekai de Shōfu ni Natta) .
Is an Isekai where the FeMC gets no special powers and needs to work as a prostitute

>>22119606
having ramen at a restaurant instead of buying a package of maruchan instant noodles, adding some chicken, boiled egg, scallions, ginger, and seaweed (/ck/ style) seems like a waste of money that i'd only expect somebody who likes having one night stands with women to do

>>22119610
that sounds hilarious thanks

>>22119584
no i'm the # 1?

>>22119624
>t. person who never interacted with a female

>>22119624
still not the same thing at all wtf

>>22119635
t. nigga who lives and dies by banging

>>22119591
how can you even concentrate on reading when your ass is exploding?

>>22119606
ichiran isnt that good

>>22119627
Is actually quite the good analysis of patriarchal society and femenism but ye

>>22119587
this actually sounds like a decent idea

>>22119641
nigga I can't get any and I'm not trying to, either.

>>22119654
oh that's better than the comedy I expected.

>>22119649
I know, I don't like it and now I'm pissing it out my ass

>>22119646
trying to ignore the pain

>>22119624
oh yeah, this lazy bullshit is totally going to compare to the ramen from a genuine ラーメン屋 that has perfected its craft over decades

>>22119675
imgur.com/gallery/pXjXHkO
try making it and tell me if it's good or not, instead of outright dismissing it.
i made it and i liked it

>>22119688
i'm not saying it wouldn't taste alright, i'm saying it's nothing in comparison to the real thing and believing otherwise is ridiculous

>>22119508
>Your pretty good and its obvious you know better compared to them
the problem is that when you're shit you don't know who's good or not and the dude who aced the n1 but can't read a novel seems just as impressive as the dude reading a novel. at least to some people.

>>22119695
the only difference between the stuff you get at a restaurant and the stuff you make at home is that restaurants add more msg to everything

>>22119587
i came to a similar conclusion when i started latin.
did a vocab deck to supplement my reading and noticed that, all the vocab that is not easily "deducable" from ones we commonly use today is fucking hard to memorize, and if i got it temporarily i would lose it again when the intervall got to like 4-5 days.
meanwhile, the stuff that was new to me that i come across in my reading sticks easily. that's why i decided to delete the vocab deck, it was completely pointless. meanings are way more efficiently aquired through seeing the word used.

tldr:
i think vocab decks are pointless for language learning
they are still useful for japanese because you need to learn how to actually read the words, a problem which you don't have with languages like latin, spanish, german, etc., but you should only focus on getting the reading right

Is really any point in sleeping with random Japanese audio in the background or is just BS?

>>22119732
it won't do anything while you're sleeping but at least you get some listening in before you actually fall asleep i guess

>>22119732
dreaming in japanese is way better than this

>>22119702
tell that to 石神秀幸 and he will laugh at you just like i'm doing right now

>>22119610
>JKハルは異世界で娼婦になった
The LN? Where'd you find the raws?

>>22119732
no. you do go to sleep to japanese and wake up to it. works best with audio you can comprehend though, like the VN you just read.

>>22119748
just try doing it for fuck's sake. otherwise, you'll end up as the gastronomic equivalent of those textbook-using redditors who've never picked up a light novel

>>22119712
so what are you doing now, just reading?

Guys, I'm piss poor. Please upload someone this awesome game. https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ253459.html/?unique_op=af&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=t.co%2F5eILHhD5eO (新説魔法少女+)
Btw, I wonder why we still don't have a section for non free windows games.

>>22119822
reading while doing sentence cards at a chill pace of five new sentences per day. very happy with my progress so far though it's not my focus, i still spend most of my time with japanese.

>>22119754

>The LN? Where'd you find the raws?
"pdfnovels" JKハルは異世界で娼婦になった
Search in Google.

>>22119587
someone should replace the definitions in a core deck with pictures, i think that way the meaning of a lot of words would be retained without focusing on it

>>22120077
What kind of picture would you use for 人情?

>>22120096
Two people holding hands?

>>22120096
that word wouldn't be in a core deck inb4 it's in core10k
that said your point is well taken, pictures aren't well suited for abstract concepts
in that case you'd just put a picture like >>22120103 and a supplementary definition

>>22120120
it's in position 4331 according to the core6k site (https://core6000.neocities.org/).). i don't know if you remember that it's been discussed before that core6k has lots of common words mixed in together with not-so-common words, and is lacking in extremely common words like 危うく

have any fellow erogamers felt like it's easier to read stuff in 縦書き than in 横書き?

>>22119855
What are you reading in latin?

>>22120256
lingua latina, which is a graded reader/comprehensible input type of thing, and caesar's gallic wars for "real" latin

>>22120322
try going outside in japan u ding dong

try going outside with this up your ass *shoves foot up your ass*

>>22120322
for sure
don't remember where though

>>22120424
boy we gonna wrestle in the grass if u keep that up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n21NRI4j__o

Does anybody know any words here besides 全裸 and 巨乳?

>>22120473
he's got that digi beard growing on his face

someone mention digi?

>>22120520
he's right though the quality and quantity of english media is INSANE

>>22120479
糞提督!
Without using this woman's B-25 yourselves you instead send them all to that 巨乳ビッチ

>>22120540
>>22120479
Source btw?

english acting doesn't sound anything like how people actually speak either

>>22120473
>>22120520
looks like hes finally hit the acceptance stage of not knowing japanese

I finally got caught up on my Anki reps after my vacation last week. I hate waking up and seeing I have 80 reviews, so seeing 400 at one point was very demotivating.

>>22120583
why don't you do your anki reps on your cell phone?

people used to bitch when ajatt/MIA shit was put in the OP but damn we've carried on for a day and no one has mentioned it. we MIA bros finally won

implying anyone reads the op

Are there any NHK livestreams? Specifically BSプレミアム, I really want to see it

i just noticed that matt put crunchyroll, netflix, and amazon prime as resources on the mia site.
how gay and bluepilled

>matt's telling people to use the core10k or dojg decks
literally as bad as 2012 djt

>>22120664
I do, but I was busy/tired the whole time so I couldn't get much done. One day I did 1 rep just to keep my streak going.

hey using core10k is a great way to make sure you never permanently cripple yourself by attempting to speak the language

i just post while taking a shit

>>22120520
based

>>22120077
>>22119587
these seem like good ideas
nuke should get working on this, this is the kind of stuff he spends his time on right

>「人間て、自分のなかになんてたくさんのものをしまってるんだろう……」
>「なんてたくさんのことを忘れてしまえるんだろう……」
>「ふしぎだよ……ね」
Need kind anon translate this for me.
>Human being have so many things hidden inside them... so many things they can forget.. strange isn't it?
It doesn't make sense.

>>22120775
I don't use my phone in the bathroom. That's disgusting.

u stop at 3k words when using core6k then you read, you guys

>>22120801
it does make sense though
it appears whoever is talking is wondering about all the thoughts and memories in the human brain

>>22120801
yeah nips say shit like that.

>>22120801
>Strange, how humans being just miserable piles of secrets manage to forget these secrets...

>>22120820
What so strange about it? I don't even remember what did I eat last week.

>>22120814
the best time to start reading is as soon as you know basic words like "これ", "あれ", "私", "お前", "何", and "事". yomichan can take care of the rest.

>yomichan
no

>>22120857
then nazeka

>>22120814
i read and did vncore since day 1 and although i finished vncore 6 months ago i wish i had done core6k or a deck similar to it because i don't mine as much as i should because it requires slight effort which annoys me. and people are simply wrong when they say premades aren't useful beyond a certain point because even if a premade deck has words you haven't encountered frequently in native media it's still exposure that will help you remember that word when you do encounter it. that's exactly how vncore was so useful to me. also 20 cards a day of a premade deck is better than 5 cards a day from a mining deck so if you're lazy like me and don't like mining then why not finish core6k while getting input.

>>22120857
crippled

>>22120879
core6k has lots of words i've rarely or practically never seen, so there's nothing you're losing out on if you're consistently reading and adding cards to a mined deck.

>>22120917
based jav retard

after wareya mentioned 走馬灯 in his video i've started noticing it more

>>22120917
>印字機

Why is Monet モネ, even though money is マネー?

>>22120927
core6k has political, administrative, and banking related terms that is of much less interest to me than words used to describe benis going into bagina.

>>22120970
do you know how to pronounce monet

>>22120987
press shift+f1 to insta-suspend those words

>>22120970
classic eop

>>22120970
if monet was マネ how would you write manet?

>>22120988
it's mo'-nay
>>22120997
no, but the thing is most of the words that appear in core6k have NOTHING to do with 中出し, 入る, 溢れる, or 熱さ or sound effects like ぴゅーぴゅー, so why tf would i even use that deck's cards at all?

>>22120862
>>22120910
i move on and read the 10x amount u guys will ever read

>>22121020
i wasn't telling you to use core6k. there's only going to be a handful of words that you'll need for ero in particular that aren't covered and it'd be really easy to mine them.

>>22121013
i'mma take a guess and say it's supposed to be マネー, whereas money would have to be マニ, just like the ancient Parthian prophet.

>>22120991
>>22121020
the hell
which hills do ya live in

>>22121039
upload a vocaroo of you pronouncing Monet, Manet, and money, both american-style and japanese-style

doragon booru zee

>>22121058
under that same logic, shouldn't we be pronouncing 取らない as "tran-eye"? or してしまう as "shtesh-mow"?

I fucking learned Japanese. I actually did it. Now what? I hardly even like anime anymore.

syannneeeeeeenaaahhhh

>>22121075
Yeah I'm in this stage too, all anime got kind of boring

>>22121087
Holy fuck did you just mention E-Celeb in response to my post in complete unrelated fashion???? Wow I'm so sick of you low IQ retards.

>>22121124
it's not unrelated though

>>22121124
Fuck you. You are a piece of shit. Get a life you poser. Seriously, it is likely that you have mental deficiency. Leave this thread and never return.

>>22121124
great post

>>22121124
why does eceleb posting make you so mad

is jpopsuki ded for anyone else?

>>22121167
wait, nvm, it's back now

firefox was complaining there was an issue with the certificate, then the site went totally offline

What should I watch?
Everything on my "to watch"-list isn't really interesting me.
I'm currently watching Code Geass, but the difficult vocabulary made me burn out a bit.
Some comfy SoL would be cool, but I think I've watched most of them already.

>>22121180
watch simple shows, like: nichijou, danshi koukousei no nichijou, acchi kocchi, tonari no seki-kun, azumanga daioh, lucky star
stuff like that, fun to watch, simple to understand, light-hearted and very funny, specially danshi koukousei and seki-kun

>>22121180
https://anichart.net/Fall-2019

>>22121124
i don't like gossiping as much as the next guy but DAMN i think the dialater might be up too far

This is for the true ninjas: When talking about 足音 which is louder?
ぺたんぺたん or こつこつ

>>22121250
こつこつ

>>22121180
why are there items on your 'to watch' list if you don't 好く them.

>>22121228
thanks, I'll check out acchi kocchi and seki-kun.
already saw the rest, but I guess I could rewatch azumanga daioh or lucky star, those are classics.

>>22121257
For some of them I don't find any jap subs and for some others I'm just not in the mood for that genre.

>>22121266
ur d should be rdy for some H show 二六時中