/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21935281
That's pretty racist.

>>21935281
Goddamn is Kizuna Ai becoming the Waldo from Black Mirror?

>>21935281
Who?
>>21936148
The what from where?

>>21936197
Go back to your 2hu image dumps or your idol shitposting.

This is why I like /jp/.
One board, several micro factions within macro factions.

>>21935281
I like Chinese versions of basically anything. Why is this video despised by everyone? Genuinely confused.

>>21939294
Chinks copy everyone and contribute nothing.
Also notorious for bad quality in copying trends and failing miserably because they’re usually so similar that if you tried this shit in America or any country with strict copyright laws, you’d be dragged to court with heavy fees and a foot up your ass.

>>21935281
They did surgery on a grape

>>21939294
Because some chinamen thought that she was voiced by a friend of the director of the company, though they recently noticed that their voices didn't match. Not everyone did though.
They also thought they were trying to replace AI-chan even after the company and she herself told us that it wasn't the case. That still hasn't cleared.
Basically the Chinese being dumb and some herd mentality.

>>21939439
also chinese AI va said that the hate is comparable to crushed dreams akin to the kyoani fire.

that was pretty much the last straw

>>21939294
Because she said the people bullying her for replacing Kizuna are literally as bad as the guy who lit Kyoani up.

>>21887337

>>21935281
Is there a more squeakier voice than china Ai?

>>21942027
Eilene's voice

>>21939661
>>21940070
Way to sink a starting career.

>>21944484
You might not believe me, but that's not even the worst thing thats happened to her barely 3 month long career as the new Kizuna Ai.

>>21946721
Tell us moar.

Also finally got a good site to explain the Kizuna situation;
https://www.bilibili.com/read/mobile/3226164

>>21947035
https://note.mu/toton_kouzai/n/n9c9d02e45472
https://note.mu/toton_kouzai/n/nc039fdf8700d
https://note.mu/toton_kouzai/n/n999122f9c3c6
tl;dr company made another company for tax sheltering and money laundering purposes and the only reason miss kyoani arsonist did nothing wrong got the job was because the yakuza guy got his dick sucked by her with all of this being revealed before she even got officially announced as the new permanant kizuna ai as there was a 'test run' before the end of july

>>21939376
>>21939294
this is not a copy, this is oficial

>>21947594
>"permanent"
God so there really is more drama then? Should we just unsub from Kizuna's channel and move on?

>>21947594
>got officially announced as the new permanant kizuna ai

>>21939439
>They also thought they were trying to replace AI-chan even after the company and she herself told us that it wasn't the case. That still hasn't cleared.

I don't know what to believe.

>>21937400
t. I've never been to anywhere on 4chan outside of /jp/ in my entire life.

>>21935281
>that dislike ratio
oof, asians are really petty.

>>21936263
bery rich coming from a fag who adores commercial stunt named as "A.I."

>>21935281
>chinese
>made
Hahahaha
You mean copy, steal and get profits from.

>>21939661
This.

Blame the retarded VA chink bitch that said her hate was similar to the Kyoani fire.

The damage is done, they aren't going to forgive that shit especially said by a chink

>>21949793
Wrong.

>>21949611
I already did. I hated the new Japanese VAs as well, and her gaming channel in particular became completely soulless. Now all of this Chinese drama on top of it. I can't look at her the same anymore. I honestly feel bad for the original Ai chan. I liked her a lot but I have no choice but to turn against her.

What's with this board hating on chinese?

>>21954662
It's human nature to hate the chinese.

Can't some richfag just buy Kizuna Ai and fix all this?

>>21949945
That woman isn't even the VA>>>/wsg/3011824

>>21950365
Wait so they replaced the original Kizuna A.I. VA too?

>>21947594
I don’t care for the Virtualfags but holy fuck you guys are having it rough.

My condolences from the /jp/ - Touhou and 2D Faction.

>>21949641
I’ve done enough. There’s nothing to discuss.
Good day. You haven’t lived on this site if the mods and janitors didn’t loathe you and your mindset at least once without spamming, shitposting or doing a combination of both.

Oh yeah, here’s an easy one. Get banned from /b/ without using the easy way out of breaking global rules.
Even you should be able to accomplish that.
Also, everyone hates /v/ and the spawns, get banned from those too. One more rule, no spamming. No obvious baiting.
Again, easy.

>>21954662
chinks are worse than insects and deserve 0 sympathy.

>>21949624
Who do you believe, the person who leaked these things months before they happened or the clearly corporate response made months after the leaks? None of this is even mentioning the official statement on bilibili which says pretty explicitly that the originals pretty much gone, but "no she's totally not gone guys".
https://twitter.com/8AndAHalfTails/status/1162335355040931841 Said statement translated with a direct link to bilibili if you want to translate/doublecheck the chinese/japanese statement yourself.
For all intents and purposes, the Kizuna Ai that started everything is dead.

>>21935281
A more retarded version of a retarded virtual idol?

>>21935281
>10k dislikes

1-Isn't youtube blocked in china? Why ar ethey even posting videos there?

2-Why did they change the first Kizuna Ai anyway, did she ask for more money?

>>21958592
chinese blocks are piss easy to get around
it's because she didn't put out

I hope the vocal people keep doing their thing and bring Kizuna back.

>>21959794
She’s gone.

>>21959821
I refuse to believe. Thanks.

>>21959825
Every official statement has said that she's staying. AI-chan herself has reasured her fans twice and even one of the clones has done the same on a livestream. But for some reason people want to believe they have been lying, that AI herself has lied to them and that the wild rumours must be true.

In reality, she was last seen recording live for her TV show last Friday and she will be appearing as guest for the special 4k broadcast of the station her program is on this Sunday.
Not to mention she has events lined up until late October so far.

Basically, anyone saying she's not in isn't actually following her at all.

>>21959913
They are replacing her with other VAs. Most of her new videos don't even have the real VA

>>21959913
I don't want to believe that it's over, but I'm no retard, anon.

>>21959913
>Every official statement has said that she's staying.
There's a tweet barely ten posts above yours from an official statement saying pretty explicitly she's only going to be doing music related stuff. That's technically staying but if she won't be making content on her channel aside from the odd cover once every month or however often she does them then that's not really staying at all. That's just be shifted into the legendary japanese retirement room and being told "your channel is no longer yours, but you're still under contract with us so record the vocals to a song for an hour once every few weeks but otherwise stay here doing nothing while random girls have fun taking your job a room over".

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1566873254349.webm
Communism.

>>21954662
weakness disgusts me

>>21960230
We've seen that's not true, she's made other videos and her covers are more frequent like that. And the local clones can't sing, so she's also in charge of live performances.

>>21956148
Why do you want to genocide nonwhites?

>>21962749
I'm not sure how you interpreted that from his post

>>21962749
What do whites have to do with that post?

>>21962741
I trust an official source more than I trust whatever bullshit anon is spewing. I don't watch her so I don't care that deeply anyways.

Fucking weeb

>>21963758
This.

>>21959913
She's under contract which likely prohibits her from talking shit about them, what is she even supposed to say if it's true?

>>21935281
She has English subs now. And I finally get why the chinks in the comments were finding strange she wanted to learn Chinese when she clearly speak it well enough. They forgot she a clone of a Japanese A.I. though.
>>21965928
What, you're saying everything is bad but they can't talk about it? Based on what?
The clone spontaneously talked about it too. The direct statement from AI-chan wasn't planned with time either, she just started streaming 20 minutes after announcing it.

>>21960771
Why are they saying "wang" in unison while jacking off pocky?

>>21954895
4chan used to own a virtual idol.

Her name was Mirai Akari.

Then a hostile takeover/ coup attempt happened and Eilene was forced out.

Youtube demonetization soon happened afterwards because Youtube did a soft ban on edgy humor on Youtube. For example, Filthy Frank would not be tolerated on Youtube today.

>>21966227
>What, you're saying everything is bad but they can't talk about it? Based on what?
Not him but, I would to the same.
Let me project some more; they are using #3 as a shield since she is cute.

>>21935281
cute

>>21965928
She's already talked about it backhandedly on her twitter dozens of times. /vy/ has an autist whose been defending her CEO's actions for months now so just ignore him.

>>21966319
You're not giving reasons. They also explained the clones' role and why we're seeing them (or not, I don't actually watch their videos).
>>21970300
It was just one that might've been unrelated, just like the director's out of context post was.
And I've never seen posters outright defending anyone, just people posting facts and things based on reality. If they don't match the rumours, then they were probably just that.

What I have seen are people dismissing them with non-answers instead of backing their own claims.

>>21966319
You're not giving reasons. They also explained the clones' role and why we're seeing them (or not, I don't actually watch their videos).
>>21970300
It was just one that might've been unrelated, just like the director's out of context post was.
And I've never seen posters outright defending anyone, just people posting facts and things based on reality. If they don't match the rumours, then they were probably just that.

What I have seen are people dismissing them with non-answers instead of backing their own claims.

>>21966319
You're not giving reasons. They also explained the clones' role and why we're seeing them (or not, I don't actually watch their videos).
>>21970300
It was just one that might've been unrelated, just like the director's out of context post was.
And I've never seen posters outright defending anyone, just people posting facts and things based on reality. If they don't match the rumours, then they were probably just that.

What I have seen are people dismissing them with non-answers instead of backing their own claims.

>>21966319
You're not giving reasons. They also explained the clones' role and why we're seeing them (or not, I don't actually watch their videos).
>>21970300
It was just one that might've been unrelated, just like the director's out of context post was.
And I've never seen posters outright defending anyone, just people posting facts and things based on reality. If they don't match the rumours, then they were probably just that.

What I have seen are people dismissing them with non-answers instead of backing their own claims.

Oh god, make it stop.

>>21966319
You're not giving reasons. They also explained the clones' role and why we're seeing them (or not, I don't actually watch their videos).
>>21970300
It was just one that might've been unrelated, just like the director's out of context post was.
And I've never seen posters outright defending anyone, just people posting facts and things based on reality. If they don't match the rumours, then they were probably just that.

What I have seen are people dismissing them with non-answers instead of backing their own claims.

>>21972243
Sorry about that, the website fucking up really fucked me in the ass. I can't even delete these right now.
But I wasn't bumping the thread so fuck you for doing so. Fuck this guy too>>21972251

>>21966270
4chan had more of an influence on Shiro than Akari.

I would have been fine with a replacement if they weren't so shitty about handling it.

>>21935281
China must be stopped.

>>21966270
Why would you lie on an anonymous message board?

>>21935281
Thanks for ruining everything as usual, China.

Isn't the canon explanation Ai can clone herself?

>>21940070
>>21939661
holy shit, what a fucking snowflake
is the channel not distancing themselves from this person?

>>21988178
The canon explanation is that whoever voices the character is the character, regardless of any changes in casting. It's similar to what happened with the Game Club Project, because that poor girl crying and vomiting in the middle of an 8 hour stream break she was pressured to do isn't REALLY Yumesaki Kaede but just one of her voices. I mean, she's just a character after all, and characters voices get replaced all the time! Don't worry about the small stuff like suicidal thoughts, that's not Kaede saying it, listen to her new voice, isn't she so cute?
Fuck corporate shits.

>>21990761
Woah, is there footage of this?

>>21991037
Of the crying and vomitting? No, it was during a stream break and was later revealed on the VA's personal twitter that during those breaks she was having a full on mental breakdown. For the stream itself? You can hear her freak out even moreso than usual by skipping to pretty much any point past the first break in either of these links.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t0RH19Cppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9_PWKeB7yA

>>21989043
Why would they distance themselves from her when the only reason she got the job in the first place was sucking the directors dick? They don't care about controversy.

>>21989043
>>21995328
What, you're not even reading the thread now?>>21954969

>>21998071
Saging is not nice

>>21998400
I hate you.
But I guess it can't be helped.

>>21998400
Is this in autosage?

>>21935281
Damn, Chinese sounds so guttural and unrefined compared to Japanese.

>>21998071
Christ, you're even shilling this load of garbage here? Just stick to the /vy/ general instead of trying to convince a board that doesn't care your waifu isn't being sold out for women willing to become corporate cocksleeves for literal yakuza.

>>22001052
Nice arguments.
And I'm not saying that, just that this particular woman isn't a match.

>>22004400
I'm sure she's just some random totally unrelated woman nips who speak the language better than you found and connected to Kizuna Ai for no reason.

>>22005447
She's clearly not unrelated, but her voice is different. Even the horde of angry Chinese fans noticed that and these are the guys that made a voice wavelength comparison thing for AI-chan's.

Also, stop bumping the thread. There's more evidence against your claims than in favour, it's better if we let this die down so you can spread misinformation later.

>>22006013
You keep saying this shit, yet you post no proof so far.

>>22008898
For the last time, fuck you and check this >>>/wsg/3011824

There was another video the chinks used to compare on bilibili, but I didn't save it.

>>22009195
There was a video with her blowing the producer uploaded at pornhub, but I didnt save it either.

>>22006013
Considering the third girl sounds exactly like the first one I don't trust vocal samples. Unless you're going to tell me there isn't four girls, and its just 3 Kizuna's total in which case I'm afraid to tell you that even I know you're retarded.

>>21935281
Oh wow they really hate her. Over 11k dislikes and not even 1k likes, with a video that only has 100k views? That's insane.

>>21999632
Everyone knows mandarin sounds like ass, it's literal ching-chong

Some chinese-developed mobile games and VNs even use japanese VAs

>>22020363
They actually like her quite a bit at bilibili, this particular case is a boycott.

>>21935281
ching chong chnag

>>22021241
>They actually like her
seems legit

>>22028005
There's no need to pretend to have zero reading comprehension just to bump the thread.
They even often mention they like 4 and wish 2 and 3 got the same treatment. A recent petition mentions that too.

Like I said before, this thread is better off dead. The only thing people will find here is evidence that the situation is absolutely not as bad as it looks.

>>22030332
>that the situation is absolutely not as bad as it looks.
Why are you shilling for her in another part of the board, Chinaman?

>>22031047
This

>>22030332
>that the situation is absolutely not as bad as it looks.
What the fuck? Reading this thread the situation seems to be worse than it looks. It even reaffirm some conspiracy theories.

>>22030332
How is this not as bad as it looks to be? I just read the whole thread and things seem to be going right to shit. Who the fuck cares about petitions either? Why do you assume people are just bumping the thread because they're illiterate for disagreeing with your retarded points? At least you're keeping your autism to just this thread and your own general instead of bumping the entire board like you did at the start of the year so I can't complain there.

Seriously, what thread are you guys reading? None of you even present arguments, much less evidence of things being as bad as you claim they are.

I'll do the same and make the non-argument that I have the peace of mind that anyone that bothered looking at the facts knows that most rumours were proven false, and the rest don't hold up in reality.

>>21935281
based

>>22030332
>the situation is absolutely not as bad as it looks
Actually it's always worser than it looks. If this much came to the public eyes, then it means they're literally burning behind doors in activ8.

The Chinese market is HUGE. No surprises there.

>>22034646
>burning behind doors in activ8.
That's a pretty ironic choice of words, considering this previously mentioned statement about fires and KyoAni's studio the chinese Kizuna made.

>>22033860
on what?

>>22036248
See>>21954969

>>22038176
Suuuure she's not.

>>21954895
get on line

>>21954895
If I were rich I would just marry the VA and have Kizuna all for myself.

>>21954969
They sound exactly the same.

>>22049084
Sure, if you didn't actually listened to them. But by all means, make a comparison video and share it with the thread.

>>21954969
Yeah, and Komachi Nono isn't Mahiro Yukishiro. You're retarded if you think japs can't vastly change their voices, and moreso retarded for saying the doxxing is fake just because voices totally can't be changed.

>>22035108
But it's also a pretty bad idea to piss them off like Kizuna's doing.

>>22049560
She's Chinese, you didn't even check her out.
Japs also usually use a cuter voice than their "natural" voice pretty naturally, but you're claiming this one doesn't despite being more than able to. And also that she's a good singer but she has choosen to never display it. Not to mention how they laugh differently. So you're saying she's an extremely talented and humble cosplayer?
What's more, she lives in Tokyo while #4 attends events in China.

Lastly, the Chinese initially thought she was 2 but the voice didn't match. Then 3, but the same happened. Then 4.
They made a scientific comparison to prove AI-chan's voice matched, K-san also laughs the same. But they couldn't do the same with AI-chang.
Of course, you're more than welcome to try. Anything is better than posts with zero proof, made just to bump the thread.
Unless you're just looking to clear misinformation by getting more people to read the facts.

>>22053025
How much are you getting paid?

>>22054968
Obviously more than me

>>21954662
>this board
The world hates China

Is this the chink behind Ai-chang?

>>22055262
200yen per hour?

>>21975566
please explain

>>22055936
She's the one people though she was one of the clones until we they talked. She also looks a lot different outside of pictures, like a completely average chink; solid 5/10.

>>22055936
Yep, that's the firefighters worst nightmare.

>>22054968
Either an embarrassingly large amount, or an embarrassing low amount. Dudes been doing this for literal years. Anytime you criticize a single thing related to her he freaks out like he's doing in this very thread, there was even a time where he dumped images every minute for at least two hours while doing some awkward roleplay where he "epicly pwned the haters". I seriously wish I had it saved, but I want to say it was somewhere around October or September of last year. He got banned if you want to check the logs or if some other anon remembers the post link, but I'm not exaggerating what happened.

Did you worship your new god today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQAQBwKUozc

>>22061210
>>20163608 The first one which lasted 2 whole hours during a time the thread isn't usually dead, you can scroll down and find some deleted posts. Notable mention being >>20164610 which is the post that got him banned and a few others right below it. Happened again four whole months later in >>20774426. There was one instance where he even outright claimed to be a janny but I've already spent too much time digging through vague memories and archives and I don't consider myself an obsessed autist since its basically just an annoying kid going wild. Not much you can do about that except a perma, which'll never happen on /jp/. There's a few other examples and a few images I'm pretty sure I can find but I know probably none of you care that much about it.
If anyone really, really cares they can check out pretty much any filename in >>20281201 and skim through its history, which is what I did for most of this.

>>22061750
No subs. Maybe later.

>>22062098
That's the falseflagger tho. All that shitshow happened shortly after anon was making fun of some nijisanji vtuber.

>>22062098
There's also another set of filenames because the were changed at some point. Sometimes I wish I had that level of dedication but at the same time I'm very thankful that I don't.

>>22062510
Who the fuck falseflags as posters, who are already hated by then, to the point of getting themselves banned?

I would like this concept if it wasn't done this way.
If they are trying to get more popular, they should hire a translator instead of slut actresses.

>>22068040
They did both, though there's only the Chinese translator for A.I.China.
And being more popular wasn't the only objective. Strictly speaking, having only one workaholic AI was limiting their activities. But there was really no good way of getting over that, other than not being greedy fucks and just stay as they were.

>>22065707
Go to any of those posts and read the entire thread.
The "aichanposter" always goes loose after anon says something bad about nijisanji and usually stops when the thread reaches bumplimit.

>>21935281
Why the fuck is are they so autistic over the Kizuna Ai lore? It's so fucking stupid. Just make it about some dumb anime chick playing video games and get rid of these stupid clones.

>>22068426
>Strictly speaking, having only one workaholic AI was limiting their activities
Sorry for being retarded but for me this is bullshit. It's like saying "hey, lets make two lady gagas so we can make more activities for the fans!".

>>22068499
Well, the made some dumb anime chick play games and got rid of OG Aichan.

>>22062098
>>22062576
Man, that is some serious autism by those guys. Autism from you guys too but at least you guys aren't being outright cunts about it.

>>22068597
It's not really the same, most artists like that focus on music and performance and they more or less work at their own pace. AI was and is doing a ton of stuff at the same time. Artists are also usually human, but she's a character whose setting allows for this sort of thing. If you think about it, producers would be more than happy to clone musicians and send them all over the world if the fans accepted that.
It's still bullshit and the product of bottomless greed though.

One more thing, the guys saying they want to replace her don't actually follow her; she's still active. The most recent thing she's made is an annoucement for that AR music festival thing she's part of, about an hour ago.

>>22072414
She literally didn't even show up at a massive awards show event just yesterday. How can you claim she's still active when someone who wasn't her pretended to be her there?

>>22072611
It wasn't really massive, and they don't use AI for everything.
For example:
https://twitter.com/aichan_nel/status/1172427193516904452

That's 3. They also used that one for a small webCM for some eye product.
However the do use AI-chan for important stuff, like the mentioned event and this TV and web CM for Mitsubishi Estate.
https://youtu.be/lkgyvJXm3DA

We also don't know for sure if the event 3 was announcing will have her or AI in it.

>>22068597
Never thought of it that way, that only makes it sound even dumber.

>>22073077
>We also don't know for sure if the event 3 was announcing will have her or AI in it.
Then why do you still care about them enough to know any of this technical stuff? If you don't know if the youtuber you love is going to be in some event or if it'll just be her replacement, why are you still following it? That'd be like if I wanted to watch a concert for a specific band they give me a heads up saying it'll just be a cover band under the same label because the A-team didn't want to go or whatever. I don't give a shit about the coverband, no matter how good or bad they are, because that's not why I was planning on going to that metaphorical concert. I don't understand a guy like you who actively decides to just accept it and pay for those tickets instead of telling the people deciding the lineup to stop giving you fakes and shitting on you and other fans. What the hell is the point to looking forward to an when it's a 80% chance you'll just get some sponsored fake? I don't get it.

>>22072414
>but she's a character whose setting allows for this sort of thing.
Being an AI singularity doesn't mean that you need to, or even CAN, be everywhere at the same time. Any slightly smart normal person knows (after the whole "black hole photo" thing) that "data needs to be physically transported some times". Using this role play as an excuse to have clones is very stupid.

What is happening here?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av62143139

I'm just catching up with this. I know 1 is original, and 4 is the chang. Is the sonic one 2 or 3 and what does the other one sound like?

Is this a rabbit hole? Why is there so much damage control? Why did this >>21887337 (Dead) anons post get deleted? What's with the lyrics to this song? Why was she crying at her brithday event? >>22075724

>>22075765
Sonic videos are open by #2 but the interview is made by Original.

>>22075808
>>21887337 wasn't deleted, check the archives or no offense but use your eyes to figure out the posts at least several weeks old. Damage control is because of either A. an autist whose been freaking out for at least a year straight, no joke or B. unironic chinese shills. There's a lot to unpack about it and you'll probably not believe me without any direct proof, but there's plenty of stuff linked in this thread talking about the dark ties Kizuna Ai's company has. A few anons in the vtuber threads have posted and talked about chinese shilling for her in japan which you can see for yourself at https://egg.5ch.net/streaming/ and searching through the Kizuna Ai threads, specifically ones made around the end of july and start of august if my memory doesn't fail me, korean imageboards, obviously chinese imageboards but thats always up for debate, and here. Anytime you bring up "chinese shills" in the vtuber general the thread goes to absolute shit for hours basically saying that'd totally never happen guys, and when an anon insulted bilibili one time it led to god knows how many unique IPs bringing the thread postercount way above the average by at least 30+ posters with a fuckton of literal fanboy defending for a site that general only uses for watching paid events without paying. The kinda defense you'd only make if you're personally invested in it basically. And then the thread slowed to a near crawl after the repellent copypaste.
I'd link you directly to the posts in question about that but the only archive up with searching functions is down so you'll either have to wait and take my word with a grain of salt or assume anonymous isn't lying through his teeth, which while I know I'm not, you're not me.

>>22076468
Sorry I was browsing on the phone earlier and it didn't show (cross-thread). But thank you for the run down. I chalked it up to generalfags being generalfags but I guess some of morethe maniac schizo sounding posts faking outrage and defending the company are rooted in some pretty absurd shit. Where can I find more information about up8 and is it true they are related to or a subsidiary of the Chinese NetEase?

>>22076506
There's a lot of information spread around but half or so of its in this thread if you scroll up. There's also summarys made, ironically enough, by the chinese translated into only somewhat broken english. >>21947035 isn't the one I'm thinking of but its close enough. The summary I'm thinking of has been reposted across various sites but I don't have the link off-handedly.

>>22076567
I see. I've read the entire thread and I think I've got a pretty good gist of it now. I'm mostly concerned about Nozomi's wellbeing. At the end of that bilibili article it said Nozomi has been on a vacation but surely shes back now? Her recent twitter status hasn't seemed to improve either. Has she been more active on the main channel lately?

>>22075724
AI-chan reassuring her fans that she's not going to dissappear. It was an emotional moment, Yunomi was crying so much you'd think it was his birthday party.

>>22076587
Dunno, I stopped watching Kizuna long before any of the drama and I only checked back in during the countdown and to feel a small part of my soul break in half when Nozomi had to basically tell the world that her replacements aren't actually replacements because corporate knows that's a bad word, but "All Kizuna's are Kizuna, so even if I'm (as in Nozomi) not me, I (as in Kizuna) will always be me", before they brought on ChinkAi the Burninator for the climax of the show. It's the same feeling you get when one of your old favorite cartoons is on its 16th season, and you check it while scrolling by once after hearing some news about it and it practically shits all over your childhood with how bad it is. At least for me it was.

>>22068674
I think what the anon is saying is that the new clones need to stop being just sub-kizunas and visually different. They fucked the brand.

>>22076625
You don't have to feel like that, from the way things have turned out we have no reason to believe AI or her company have lied.
AI-chan herself made another annoucement today for an event she'll be performing on (this is new), she also uploaded a VR gaming video so you can watch it and feel all kinds of healed.
https://youtu.be/35fz4XujAGI

It's a pity we don't get as much of her lately and maybe we won't see her every day like we used to, but you can still enjoy her content whenever it appears.

>>22078754
>we have no reason to believe AI or her company have lied.
You're right anon, the things I've heard with my own ears and seen with my own eyes are lying to me, nothing is wrong and everything is fine and you're right. Can you fuck off for once in your god damn life and stop trying to convince everyone to your side? You're not going to change my mind by telling me that it's all fake and gay and that part of my soul that got crushed was basically just my imagination.

>>21949641
And that's a good thing

>>22078851
Seriously, how much are you getting paid for this?

>>22078754
>we have no reason to believe AI or her company have lied.
Christ, you're even saying this in other parts of the board? I thought you just shitted in our general.

>>21947035
Thanks for the link, anon. I am not into virtual youtubers, but that was an interesting read.

>>21936148
It looks like a typical conflict that happens between a property's creative staff and its legal owners when they are different people. The owners realize the staff has a lot of power and decide to make the staff replaceable. It often fails because the staff's individual talents were the reason for the property's success in the first place.

>>21955047
I tried poking different boards with /jp/ content (but no direct references or links to /jp/, of course). It was easy to get banned from /v/. I started a thread with a smug sprite of Illya from FSN and no text. The thread quickly got to over a hundred replies before it was deleted and I received a three-day ban.

>>22068426
>Strictly speaking, having only one workaholic AI was limiting their activities.
Couldn't they have created palette swaps of Kizuna AI with very slightly different personalities and their own VAs instead of having different people be the original?

>>22084090
That is exactly what they did, minus the color swaps. No one is pretending to be the original and they're all their own person, but having a visual identifier would be stupid for... reasons that still don't make sense. I think the official argument is "there's no difference between them" except when there is a difference or something equally retarded?
It's peak suit retardation, I'd go so far as to say its the dumbest in the entire fad. Everything about this was mishandled and they've already made it clear they're not going to fix it.

>>22082737
I'm with you, I feel a bit dumb for not noticing before but it's the textbook definition of a strawman argument. It was so obvious, one side makes arguments based on facts and posts proof while the other makes assumptions based on rumours, doesn't back up their claims and sometimes outright ignores the point to divert attention.
So it was probably one guy and the usual bandwagon all this time. It makes sense, no-one gives a shit about chinks and much less on /jp/.
>>22085505
The reason makes sense, but it's not less stupid. If they did make them look different, then most people wouldn't even give them a chance.
The other stupid reason is convenience. They share the same IP and they promote the same product, which is Kizuna AI. So the efforts are still focused on the same objective.
There's one last stupid reason that AI-chan mentioned herself, perpetuation. Even though she has no intention to ever stop, she might not be able to continue forever.

>>22085802
>If they did make them look different, then most people wouldn't even give them a chance.

>>22058289
>completely average chink
Never trust in asians.

>>22061750
Subs out.
>>22088667
They did test the waters and specified it was a clone in one video's title and it flopped pretty hard. People want AI and most of them would avoid the clones if they could tell at a distance.

>>22090604
>People want AI and most of them would avoid the clones if they could tell at a distance.
No shit sherlock but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have done the retarded stuff they apparently did.

>>21935281
Tiananmen square massacre

>>22055936
How much does she charge for an hour?

>>21990761
>>21992634
Jesus Christ.

>>21962741
>And the local clones can't sing
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1568766329902.webm

>>22085505
>minus the color swaps. No one is pretending to be the original and they're all their own person,
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1568766948286.webm

>>22088820
How many of these are dudes?

>>22094173
Is there something stupid or wrong I said in that part you quoted?

>>22098154
I hate nips so much. I'm not even from the mainland and they chased me out of the restaurant because I spoke to my friend in mandarin. Fucking hell we are Malaysians for fucks sake. Told them as much but they didn't listen.

>>22098173
All chinese are the same.

>>22095379
Saying that no one is pretending to be the original is wrong.

>>21966270
>>21975566
How?

>>22098173
Should've used English.

>>22099235
Wait, what?

>>22091661
>lord xi! Please silence the chinaman!

>>22098173
Kinda your own fault there.

>>22099430
The Virtual Youtuber threads supported her in her early days, that was pretty much it. The only Akari related person known to visit 4chan at least semi-actively is her modeler, who posted in those threads on at least several occasions, even if one big occasion was him legitimately freaking out because people were insulting Akari's model or whatever the hell the start to that reason was. People joke about how Akari's creator, Eilene, actually visited the site often because he made a video once where he made a thread on /a/ just to record the reactions and then complain about people bullying him for more pity-points.

>>22110146
The "her" in the first sentence I'm talking about is Shiro by the way.

>>22085505
>No one is pretending to be the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFjqsPEMdH4
The English comments are funny.

>>21950365
>I already did. I hated the new Japanese VAs as well, and her gaming channel in particular became completely soulless. Now all of this Chinese drama on top of it. I can't look at her the same anymore. I honestly feel bad for the original Ai chan. I liked her a lot but I have no choice but to turn against her.
Just do what I do and follow the original voice actress on twitter.

Technically she is still employed, but her only role is singing now. Basally a massive demotion in Japanese terms, because Japan hate firing people. They just move people into less important jobs.

>>22110753
I think we're all just hoping she doesn't get put into the retirement box like everyones assuming, but frankly put my hopes are dead in the gutter with everything thats happened. It sucks, fuck China and fuck greedy corporate shits.

>>22110753
>Just do what I do and follow the original voice actress on twitter.
Does she even post anything there? I don't do twit my bro

>>22115662
She posts there pretty often, but its gotten a little depressing recently.

Did they hire a translator?

>>21935281
LIKE IT OR NOT
FUCK CHINKS

>>22098173
>Malaysians
Aren't you just Muzzie Chinks?

>>22098173
>be malaysian chinese
>go to random restaurants because hungry
>speaks mandarin
>misidentified as mainland chinese by shopkeeper and/or fellow customers
this means that you are being obnoxiously loud, rude, or talked like mainlanders (really thick dialect+sounds angry to everyone who grew outside mainland).
Reminder that japanese and taiwan have friendly relationships besides politically close. This means that both countries exchange holidaymakers, and japanese know ROC's dialect and behavior in general. And it's not just taiwan, HK, MO, SG, TH, ID, VN, MY chinese also sounds different due to being bilingual.
Don't kid yourself and larps as malaysian chinese when their mandarin sounds different, how little it is, due to centuries long of exposures to malays and english.
t. indonesian chinese who hates when packs of mainland chinese behaving like nigger in every country

>>22110753
What's her name on twitter?

>>22111738
I don't really follow this whole case but why fuck China?

>>22130944
remove DPR

>>22131434
Read the thread to get a pretty good idea of what china's done to her.

>>21939439
Yes Loserbait. Whatever you said

>>22131960
But searching both China and chink yielded no credible arguments? The only thing I see is up8 appealing to the chinese market and finding some rude voice actor for spinoff not even the mainlanders like. I don't see how this affects the the original AI. It's not like chinkyspeak is going to be the spoken language on the main channel. The problem at hand is regarding #2 and 3, no?

>>22132598
>I don't see how this affects the the original AI.
It does by the fact that people don't like VA changes for what are being pushed as the same character. The japanese especially hate this because it's always a toss-up if a character in a show will get written out entirely or replaced and that's only after a voice actors death which hasn't happened here so it's not a good look.

Ai-chan and Zoomer-chan got subs on gaming channel. I wonder if it's a rest to see if westernfags hate it too.

I masturbated to the ahegao vid. Loving the new Kizuna Ai fellas

>>21936141
She's incomprehensible.

>>22131439
KPK did nothing wrong
>>22133557s
this. It was a jerk move to fired the VA whilst there is no significant reduction on weekly viewers that could be attributed to VA's mistake. From what i saw, it's just the management trying to do cost down by cutting corners. And nips hate this kind of moves due to national experience on train derailment involving cutting corners.

>>22134056
What the fuck is that face?

>>22134056
You masturbated to that ahegao? It looks like someone just got some shitty template and put it over her face.

>>22134056
This is what happens when you let satan guide your cock.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1569451787038.webm

>>22138804
I now understand why that CEO guy is going balls deep in her daily now.

>>22140417
They did manual input to her facial expression. I bet she is the chinkest chink.

Here are some "not really news because we already knew", with some filled in blanks.
https://activ8.co.jp/pdf/20190925.pdf

It was the most likely scenario like always.

>>22145161
Took them a month and a half just to give a one page response to something that immediately got flak from both chinks and japs alike for weeks straight? Yeah sure I fully believe them in everything they say!

>>22145161
>There is speculation that our employee is the voice model of Kizuna AI that is active in China, but that is entirely false.
Of course is false, AI-chang is a real A.I.
>This employee is only employed as a Chinese interpreter and translator and we have never appointed this employee to be a voice model or a virtual talent in any way.
Obviously. Otherwise, they would have appointed it. Just like how they appointed Nozomi.
They have all my trust and acceptance already!

>>22145394
I already told you that you have to go back

>>22145333
I'll reply just in case you're actually this dull. Basically, they couldn't do it before taking action and Japanese companies very rarely fire staff.
So>>22145394 but unironically, except AI has always been an A.I. and not voiced by anyone officially. You can assume the clones are the same.

>>22145394
Nozomi who? Kizuna Ai was always voiced by Kizuna Ai of course, and no one else!

Anon will bump this thread when it reaches page10.
This is a sample of a garbage thread, a fodder to move thread that had reaches bump limit to the bottom of the catalogue.

>>22054968
Seems like its enough to keep doing this for a month.

>>22134056
>love ahegao.
no wonder you love new ones.

>>22030332
>that DAMAGE CONTROL
Just go shill somewhere else.

>>22147663
>unsarcastically
Fify.

>>21935281
nice

>>22147663
>except AI has always been an A.I. and not voiced by anyone officially
Does this make sense to anyone else?

Why would Nozomi wants a downgrade from voice actress to executive producer?

>>22155422
I still don't believe someone could earn almost 600k for doing cute voices and rarely doing some songs.
As well the animator salary is clearly just an internship, right?

>>22155422
She's just a V-list voice actor tho.

>>22155422
She didn't become a producer, she just fucked off to go back to being a VA.

>>22155422
How much does a non-A-list VA make?

>>22161935
The "part -timer" red haired girl is a non A-list VA.
>>22157052
>internship
Not that I know of.

>>21935281
thai when?

>>22159333
More like a Z-list VA! To fit with her Z-cup titties!

I guess everybody will starts to like AI-chang too, it's a matter of time.

>>22164391
not soon enough

>>21935281
who?

>>21939294
The posters on 4chan have a huge hateboner towards the Chinese currently. I don't know why any retard would give a shit about some Chinks but these faggots are so angry that they let Chinks live rent free in their head and make up retarded mental gymnastics to bring Chinks in some unrelated topic.

>>22174434
>currently
Chinese are one of the most hated races on Earth historically.

>>22174434
The bulk of users on 4chan are from Europe or the Americas, and have had a favorable view and pull toward Japan since their childhood. They're also typically teenage to young adults, and right leaning. You seem very exasperated in what you say is nonsensical, but you yourself aren't thinking very well on this matter are you. If you are Chinese or have some ancestry there of sorts, then I can partly sympathize.

>>22174434
Generally in a thread badmouthing a specific chinese person for the shockingly long-winded reasons posted, they'll be shitting on the chinese too. You know what they say about shark infested waters.

>>22164391
after english ai

>>22174434
I'll never forgive the fact that Mulan movie has no Mushu on it just because chinks don't like it.

kek

There is no such thing as multiple Kizuna Ai's.

>>22191305
Wait, what the fuck.
For real?

>>22202980
Yes. There are lots of things that are being changed in media to please the chinese people.
>>22202853
>Taiwan belongs to China
Based and chink pilled.

>>22203014
And the senkaku islands, apparently. Can't believe the most popular virtual youtuber has become a fucking chinese propaganda tool, it makes me feel like a /pol/tard to say but the fact that it's not wrong greatly upsets me.

>>22196999
Who is that? Is that the Soejima guy?

>>22205554
>Chinese oriented vtuber made for the Chinese public
>mad that she panders to Chinese people

>>22205554
>Can't believe the most popular virtual youtuber has become
>propaganda

I'm pretty sure there is not a single person that considers the separate personalities to be "Kizuna Ai" no matter how much they tried to push that narrative. Poltard, go home.

>>22211104
The chinks probably do. I bet they'd love the idea of a Japanese icon kowtowing to their bullshit, and they're willing to believe crazier things than this.

>>22211104
She's still part of the same brand. Doesn't help that Kizuna Ai even became a pseudo-official or maybe even outright official japanese ambassador, can't remember the specifics of that thing but it was definitely a thing.

>>22211104
>there is not a single person that considers the separate personalities to be "Kizuna Ai" no matter how much they tried to push that narrative.
I don't know how to put this but the clones are saying that og AI is "artist ai-chan".

>>21935281
I can't believe I have an actual internal desire to stick my pp inside that chink shit with a squeaky voice.
I bet /csg/ at /g/ would unironically tell me to not stick it inside her because of its high content of lead inside that cunny, but I wouldn't resist if she suddenly wears clothes that are more revealing than the ones she has right now.

>>22216925
>cunny
Hags don't have cunnys.

>>22217409
P*ssy it is then!

>>22216925
You're right anon. Her design is much better than the normal boring design.

>>21935281
where is the korean version?

>>22098173
Kek. Should've spoke Cantonese

>22222222

I've read that the chinese va of kizuna ai blowed the ceo of the company, is it true and is there a video of it?

>>22205554
there is nothing wrong in being a /pol/tard
it's like being aware of how the world works (lot of bad things constantly mixing together) and being a bit depressed about it

In all seriousness Kizuna can go tickle her greedy purse and fuck off.

I will never support a CCP shill.

Long live the ROC and the Kuomintang!

>>22229883
Fuck off, /pol/tard.

>>22229921
Sooner than later Hiro will try to pander the chinese market. And you know it.

>>22231467
I doubt it. Even if he does and blocks out shit like 6/4/1989 people will get around it with dogwhistles like 4 + 6 = 10 and May 35th.

Anons are just too creative and mischievous to not get around censorship and I really think the chinese anons who post here really put their social credit score at risk when everyone’s gut reaction is to immediately post Winni the Pooh or Tank Man.

>>22231447
Fuck off Commie.

>>22231467
Doesn't he already?

>>22229883
>there is nothing wrong in being a /pol/ppet

>>22235640
Who are you quoting?

she is fun

>>22233850
I've seen flags from Hong Kong posting on /pol/ during the recent protests; I don't remember Chinese flags or a Chinese general on /int/; sometimes a rare Best Korea appears but maybe that's some weird proxy located on the Russian border

They could have left her alone and do her own thing making regular content akin to vinesauce, how corporate greed ruins everything

>>21935281
splendid

>>21935281
After her flaming video the upcoming stream is going to be interesting

im so confused

>>21935281
cool

>>22212704

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Japan

I still can't believe they turned her into some chinese shill. Not even the virtual world is safe from their claws.

>>22256105

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

>>22091661

Original VA is back. #2 has been missing for ages and it seems #3 has fucked off now too. Greedy suits must have panicked at the dropping subs and shelf warming merch so they finally put a bullet in the Clone Plan.

Don't know about Kizuna Xi and don't give a fuck about that CPC Cock Sucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFw_smTbvAA

>>22260624
Yeah, she's back until she gets thrown out like the cumrag she is. Go back to sucking Pooh's cock and get the fuck out of /jp/.

>>22260638
The Chinese VA sucked Chinese peen, not the Japanese VA, you screeching tard. Kill yourself and kill yourself quickly before you bring your parents any more shame.

>>22260624
They better keep it this way if they want to keep the channel afloat.

>>22260750
You've got to be delusional if you don't think this girl who they clearly value so little to toss out for complete strangers didn't also get the job because she sucked dick. She probably thought she was better than that after about a year or two and then they "opened auditions" for the new and much more willing girls.

>>22260815
>all tarento are sluts
turbo autist detected

>>22260912
That’s right.
They suck/fuck their producer dick daily.

>>22260912
Generally, they are.

>>22260912
Not the best argument to make especially since it's straight up confirmed that one of the VA's visited her bosses house and even edited the saturation on a picture of his cat to try and hide the fact that it was his. Pretty suspicious that she's going to her bosses house in the first place, doubly so that she slightly edited a picture to try and hide it, and triply so because apparently she was known in some circles for doing cosporn though that could easily just be a baseless rumor even if it started before she got hired.

At least one of them is sucking dick.

>>22260979
>>22260983
>>22260993
have sex

>>22261211
What board do you think you're on?

>>22261211
Your waifu's a slut, dude.

>>22261629
My waifu isn't your mother.

>>22261658
That's obvious. My mother could never be as much of a slut as your waifu is.

I like to imagine that there is an alternate reality in which Kasuga Nozomi did the "I am Kizuna Ai" thing, kind of like Tony Stark in the end of the 2008 Iron Man movie. It would've automatically prevented "Chinese Ai" and other nonsense like this from ever happening.

>>21935281
good for them

>>22260624
I've been dead. I got better
What happened? Her original VA left and she had 2 replacements and a Chinese version?
Or was the Chinese version supposed to replace the original?

>>22264194
if you're not going to read the thread then tl;dr yes she's dead and been almost entirely replaced by new girls and is now relegated to almost exclusively only singing original songs. she doesnt even show up at events half the time anymore

>>22264194
The company behind AI Channel hired a new producer and his big brain plan was the Clone Project which was to add two more Kizuna Ai's with different voice actors (#2 and #3). The new voice actors started to show up more and more and Kizuna Ai's OG VA less. Information started leaking out that the OG voice actress was being treated poorly since the beginning of this new project. The producer's thinking was that the character on her own was what fans liked, not her unique personality.

The producer thought wrong.

The new voice actors sound similar to the original but have none of the personality and spontaneity that made Kizuna Ai Kizuna Ai. Fans noticed this and revolted, spamming uploads and live streams that they wanted the original Kizuna Ai back. The suits at the company did what suits at a Japanese company do and dug their heels in and doubled down which resulted in mass unsubbing to the AI Channel and AI Games YouTube channels and Kizuna Ai merchandise not selling. Because money is the only thing they understand, the company is now panicking and trying to save it's golden goose it shot itself by putting the original Kizuna Ai voice actor in more videos and quietly sweeping #2, #3 and the Clone Project under the rug.

Chinese Ai on the other hand was an easy cash grab because AI Channel videos are popular in China so they gave them their own with a Chinese voice actor because the Chinese love being pandered to. Kind of like how you get regional AKB groups. Chinese Ai is separate from Japan. Chinese Ai's VA has said some dubious things in the past (ie KyoAni fire) and is rumoured to have sucked the producer's dick to get the role.

>>22265071
>The new voice actors sound similar to the original
Only one of them does, and she's actively trying to imitate the old voice actors personality and general feel. Which is pretty bad especially after, to my knowledge, the old voice actors moving to another part of Japan now which will only make recording with her harder assuming thats true.
>the company is now panicking and trying to save it's golden goose it shot itself by putting the original Kizuna Ai voice actor in more videos and quietly sweeping #2, #3 and the Clone Project under the rug.
Also not happening, they're continuing forward in the same ways they were before sadly. #3 is still being pushed heavily on the Games channel and #2 has actually gone from mostly ignored/once every three weeks to showing up at least once a week bare minimum. Otherwise you've got pretty much all of the basics down pat.

>>22178151
I thought that title went to white people.

>>22265071
>Chinese Ai's VA has said some dubious things in the past (ie KyoAni fire)
Also dont forget her claiming Taiwan, Tibet, and some jap islands are rightfully chink clay.

>>22260624
She got a cold and needs to rest so they made her record random videos.

>>22266754
That is true if your only exposure to public opinion is twitter.

>>22265071
>>22266491
Hold up, so Kizuna appearance is based on whom the voice actress is?
I.E. the original outfit is her original voice actor.
The blue jacket and headphonse is the 2nd voice actor?

>>22269474
>so Kizuna appearance is based on whom the voice actress is?
Explicitly not. That's a huge point why fans were and still are obscenely pissed on both sides of the pond. Only the Chinese one getting her own unique traits whereas #2 and #3 are using the same models. Hell, there's even videos where there's 2 Kizuna's with the exact same model in different corners of the screen. Which is which? Well, of course, Kizuna Ai is Kizuna Ai, and Kizuna Ai is also Kizuna Ai! All of her outfits have been used by #2 and #3 at any given point, there's no color changes or anything beyond a different voice actor.

>>22269484
You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS8jhM2Tf_M

They do sound alike.

>>22269497
That's the exact video I was thinking of when I mentioned them in two corners. It's a real fucked up situation no matter how you slice it even without delving into the stuff that anons have already posted about for the past almost 2 months about the chinese Kizuna A/i.

>>22266776
lol daamn on Japanese island parts.

>>22260624
>Members-only content
>Join this channel to get access to members-only content and other exclusive perks.
What was the name of the songs they played before the stream started?

>>22260624
>Members only
What the shit

>>22270728
>>22272130
Please understand, she is very poor and needs your money. Of course she's offering the highest quality streams that not a single other vtuber could possibly offer!

>>22202853
This is a shop, right?

Koakuma kunny

>>22277532
The video was taken down but here's a shit quality re-up so check for yourself about 1:20 in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE1xHq0Jie4

>>22279355

>>22279355
>The video was taken down
I laughed more than I should have.

I didn't know /jp/ cared this much about Kizuna LMAO.

>>22280038
Kuro is kute

#2 and #3 recording
>>>/gif/15785794

>>22278866
9001+ IQ post
>>22280038
You would care too if you wanted to stick your pp in that chink pussy.
Seconded on Kuro though.

>>22280038
Pretty sure its less of caring about Kizuna and anons just wanna take potshots at the chinese for ruining yet another IP. Or maybe it's a bit of both, hell if I know.