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tl;dr, I made this thread for /jp/sies to post about any kawaii "2D" otaku oriented things outside of, or at least tangential to, the basic cartoon, music, and game spheres. Even though it seems like I'm asking questions, the purpose is to prompt discussion.

Some topics:
What's some real niche moe shit to get into outside of anime, manga, mainstream video games, figures, denpa, and VNs?
I'm not personally interested in Shimeji and Ukagaka, although I've messed around with Rainmeter skins. Are there any other things like the old Omamo Ringo-san winamp visualizations or the even older Osaka-sim/Shuffle House/Lucky Star no Mori things?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgPMCiIeJKg
(Both Omamo Ringo and Osaka Sim were made by the same group http://www.hirahira.net/products/index.html, so I'm not really expecting anyone else to have made something similar)

I've seen people make game boy roms and similar. Is there a scene for that? I expect things like PC98 to be popular though. Maybe something like an otaku demoscene but I've never been into that so I wouldn't know where to begin.

Are there any popular dress up things /jp/ has been messing with lately? I've seen the recent "AI" threads with those sites that merge anime girls images together until you get something you like and they're eh. I've seen those threads about the avatar maker things too, but I mean like a full on dressing up game or erogame, something like DanceXMixer or Illusion's latest kusoge or that one cheap thing people used to make 2D VN characters for a while.(the one in this image https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Chara04.png))

>> No.22009713

>>22009408
The entire first half reeks of normalfag and this is also a wasted thread because 80% of everything you listed is on the fucking CATALOG if you paid attention to what comes through there on a weekly basis if not already there.

USE THE CATALOG
LURK BEFORE POSTING
THAT STUFF IS HERE OCCASIONALLY

>> No.22009757

>>22009713
Nothing of what I listed is on the catalog. Almost no one posts in threads about niche things. Even the ukagata thread fell off a while ago.

>> No.22009908

>>22009713
If you actually lurked you'd know how to take it easy.

>> No.22009942

>moe shit
Get out

>> No.22012093

>2D otaku oriented things
>Outside of anime, manga, mainstream video games, figures, denpa, and VNs?
Nothing. Idols and vocaloid are the only ones I can think of that fit those definitions but they aren't exactly niche either. Outside of that the type of people who're into 2D girls usually have other unrelated stuffs to fulfill their obsessiveness

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>>22009408
Take one of these before you go

>> No.22012617

>>22012093
I meant outside of those specific things. Surely there are people who paint anime style minis or follow the billboards that get painted on trains and replicate them on their model trains. I know there are people who make cute robots. There used to be one posted sometimes.

>> No.22012633

>>22012617
>>22012093
Speaking of minis, there's the whole concept of table top games. There's stuff like Necronica and that Maid RPG. I guess the actual Queen's Blade game counts too. I wonder if there's like some moe girl hanafuda type game since phone card games with cute girls are popular, or at least the girls are represented as cards. I don't think any of those kinds of games are actually card based.

>> No.22016089

>>22012130
?

>> No.22019965 [DELETED] 

>>22016089

>> No.22021723

>>22009942
not moeshit, moe stuff/things

>> No.22028613

. . . . . what?

>> No.22030988

>>22009408
I like traps

>> No.22031306 [DELETED] 

get the fuck out of here you fucking retard

sage

>> No.22032832

>>22009408
That cat is cute
>>22009942
No u

>> No.22032881

yea so where do i download jap music that isn't pop besides random mexican blogs?

>> No.22034037

what genre?

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>>22032832

>> No.22036183

>>22034037
noise and rock mostly

>> No.22037542

>>22009408
kitty

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Do people still create net charas? Was there ever a win 10 girl made?

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>>22009408
https://otakuworld.com/

This site might be a goldmine for you. And, it's still online after 20 years!
I know some other good early anime websites.

Have fun with dress up games and desktop pets
http://otakuworld.com/index.html?/kiss/0kiss.html
http://otakuworld.com/index.html?/toys/0toys.html
http://otakuworld.com/index.html?/shibai/0shibai.html

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>>22042268
I think that kind of died out. I haven't seen a windows 10 besides the official one.

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>>22009408
>What's some real niche moe shit to get into outside of anime, manga, mainstream video games, figures, denpa, and VNs?
Gijinka!

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>> No.22046989

>>22042646
Oh shit, it's Jennifer Reitz!

>> No.22046996

>>22042268
Let's make out own net character. Anybody got ideas?

>> No.22047006

>>22046996
our own**

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>>22046996
I managed to snag this character from 8ch before it got blasticated. The idea was to have a character that represented as much from the 2000's Internet as possible.

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>>22047141
she EPIN /jp/
Do you have more of her? I don't remember seeing her on 8/jp/.

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>>22046996
Use that one guy's youtuber entry. Besides that /jp/ has some characters already.

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>>22047584

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The "reason" we have captcha

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respectable staff

>> No.22047633

Someone drew an OC thread representing character but I don't have any images.

>> No.22047644

>>22032881
on a related note, why are mexican blogs the only place to download music nowadays

>> No.22047659

>>22046996
If you do come up with a character, make it happy. All the old 4chan characters used to be happy. All the ones now are sad and only smile when they're laughing at misfortune.

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>>22047584
>>22047597
I liked this one the most.

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>>22047700
Especially this doodle.

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>>22047584
>>22047597
>>22047700
I'm glad that YouTuber garbage never went anywhere, but I feel bad that Hiro got a ton of anons to draw mascots for a thing he thought up of on a whim and eventually just forgot about. There were a lot of good designs - some of the best were by /jp/sies too, like that bear loli. I think somebody even made an MMD model of her.

>> No.22047822

>>22047778
Besides the bear loli and the winner, which were by /jp/sies?

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>>22012093
>Nothing.
Utterly incorrect.

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>>22047700
same, but i give some respect to this one too

>> No.22049010

>>22047778
>Hiro got a ton of anons to draw mascots for a thing he thought up of on a whim and eventually just forgot about.
It's not that he forgot about it, it's that he wanted some random anon to voice it for free too and no one wanted to step up, nor did he want to find someone to do the voice on his own and have at least some semblance of professionalism, so he just gave up.

>> No.22049023

>>22049010
>It's not that he forgot about it, it's that he wanted some random anon to voice it for free too and no one wanted to step up
I remember a ton of anons offering to do it in the official /qa/ thread.

>> No.22049054

>>22049023
Perhaps. I remember complaining about wanting someone to do it but I can't claim to have read through all of the extreme amount of posts in those threads. I'm sure archived.moe has the ultimate reason archived.

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>>22049054
I could be wrong too. I do remember vocaroos and even femanons posting voice clips to try to get the part though. Now that I'm thinking of it I think I remember some speculation that Hiro was hoping he could get an actual Jap girl or professional VA to play the part. All I know for sure is the thread at some point was just unstickied and unceremoniously 404'd and that was the last that was heard of it.

>> No.22050952

>>22049010
>>22049211
>>22049023
Hiro could have just used a Voiceroid or learned to speak in a girl voice.

>> No.22053745

>>22042646
Extremely cool site, thanks

>> No.22053813

I don't know if there's any onion smuggling otaku here, but does anyone know if Uncle Mugen is alright? He had that stroke, but then he got better, but now he's been quiet for the past few months again.

>> No.22054067

>>22053813
Doesn't he have a twitter or something?

>> No.22054601

>>22012093
The Monster Girl Encyclopedia fits under none of those categories but it has a general devoted to it.

>> No.22054705

>>22054601
Monster Girl Encyclopedia is worth a read. It can be creative, and you'll probably find at least a few of the girls pretty damn hot. Don't judge it by its fans.

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>>22054705
It was okay when it was a thing at first to turn dragon quest slimes into girls or whatever like a decade ago, but the combination of that guy's transformation fetishist, grimdark, everyone-has-to-be-transformed-and-made-into-a-woman's-sex-slave world that became the standard concept and people calling literally everything from catgirls and elves to ninjas and maids a "monster" really soured me on that idea. It makes me wonder why it even needs to be a seperate thing. Just call a catgirl a catgirl.
And then there's the guys you told me not to judge it by, namely those massive faggots in that thread that hate literally everything but 1 to 1 femdom and go so far as to ignore parts of the MGE that they don't like, like the monsters being massive sluts that fuck many men or any sort of yuri or "furries", like having a cat nose on an otherwise human face is somehow worse than having literally a cat's lower half and pussy or the arms and limbs of one. But man, do they go on and on and on about what degenerate things they want done to them while they're stuck in their demonic wife's lovepit being drained of cum forever and ever. It's like a subculture for cumbrain incels.
Hell, the generally pro-demon, anti-human female nature of it makes me wonder if it isn't some scheme by hell preying on these retarded virgs. Can't wait for these fags to start sacrificing each other to open up waifu portals and being eaten by empusa and hell barons.
It also ruined the idea of erogames that aren't VNs, since when they have male characters, it's always MGE style monstergirls they're after, never just normal women or kemono-mimi.

>Monster Girl Encyclopedia is worth a read.
"This monster is a gigantic slut who lives only to turn men into her perfect husband while she is a perfect wife for him. She feeds on semen but is probably a virgin. If other women come into contact with her or her secretions, they turn into more of her. There are no men of her race because they all turned into girls like her, but this is not gay unless they are Alps." -Every entry.

Really, monstergirls are just a type of moe-ification of objects like any other on the internet, and it's fine if it's just that, but miss me with that MGE shit.

>> No.22055418

>>22054705
>Don't judge it by its fans.
I can second this. Most the awful fans haven't even read the books and only read the profiles, it's fap fodder for most the part but it's actually fascinating seeing the world and culture Kenkou Cross builds to facilitate the escapism for Japanese fans. It's a sad case of westerners, both fans and people opposed to it not really knowing what they're talking about because they can't even understand a feel good fantasy.

>> No.22055676

>>22054705
Yeah, maybe I'd be into monster girls if I was a fucking furry holy shit why won't you kill yourself already.

>> No.22055753

>>22055230
>cumbrain incels
Please don't use these words on /jp/. Thanks.

>> No.22055911

>>22055753
Give me a better set of words. I don't like using them either, but they're at the level of those people who write stories of what they want to do to the characters in images on Gelbooru while entertaining these fantasies of one allotted pure wife per pure male. I don't really know how else to describe them.

>> No.22055932

>>22055911
Sexual Romantics?

>> No.22055959

>>22055911
There's nothing wrong with being involuntary celibate.
Nice 9/11 GET btw

>> No.22056759

>>22047644
no idea but they sure come in clutch

>> No.22057476

>>22055911
You can call them horny virgins. Why do you have trouble expressing this idea without /v/speak?

>> No.22057496

>>22055911
>I don't really know how else to describe them
/jp/.
People here have been writing posts like that about 2hus since the board started.

>> No.22057586

>>22057496
To be fair, the monstergirl thread was a later import.

>>22054067
I think the anon you're replying to is referring to him not posting on Twitter.

>> No.22058734

>>22057476
Because there's many reasons to be a virgin, but these guys seem rejected and hateful of women in an /r9k/ way. And they aren't just horny, you don't spend all day talking about various ways you would get raped just by being normally horny. Porn has corrupted their minds, just like those newer people who can't stop saying cunny this and boobie that all the time.

>> No.22059185

>>22047609
So cute. She needs a remake with machine learning.

>> No.22059206

>>22058734
Be in a small group of men, they will always make sexual jokes and say bad stuff about women. If they're not virgins, maybe even more so.
Fuck your retarded memes.

>> No.22059233

>>22059206
Fuck YOU, normalfag.

>> No.22061840

>>22059185
I wonder what kinds of files she'd steal this time.

>> No.22064029

>>22061840
Sadly, her purity would probably be corrupted this time. She would no longer be an innocent mischief maker, but a Bitcoin thief and a ransomware distributor. The Net has changed.

>> No.22064163

>>22064029
Someone should make a ransomware with a cute girl that has the format of hizashi no naka no real, and you have to make her cum and get a pink save to unlock your shit.

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>>22055230
>>22058734

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>>22046989
>Reitz is also the founder of the site Transsexuality (transsexual.org), a site with general information on transsexualism that hosts the COGATI (Combined Gender Identity And Transsexuality Inventory) test.[9] Reitz is a trans woman and has undergone sex reassignment surgery.[10]


I don't know why but after reading that a lot of these Reitzes look like trannies.

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>>22067162
They kind of do. However, the one responsible for OtakuWorld and webcomics like pic related is in the bottom right corner. Rietz is emblematic of a time when creating something for Western otaku on the Internet pretty much guaranteed you a following, but is more interesting than most "anime-inspired" webcomic artists from back then on account of having weird autistic worldbuilding, obsessing over things like slimes and posting stupid personal shit in public. Think CWC, but with the difference of being considerably more intelligent and also tran... Wait, that last one is no longer a difference. Today such a personality would be stuck on some lame Discord forever. It's probably better for them this way, but I miss the Web where they weren't.

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>>22067547
I like some of the art in Rietz's comics.

>> No.22071051

>>22042268
>Do people still create net charas?
It does seem like net characters are less popular than they used to be
I wonder why.

>> No.22074078

>>22009408
this is a really cute and clever idea for a picture and i'm surprised i've never seen it done before

>> No.22074261

>>22066015
What is this autism?

>> No.22074268

>>22074261
Probably a bot that posts it.

>> No.22074296

>>22042646
Aaah this website makes me nostalgic. I downloaded their Konata otaku mascot back when I was like 12

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>>22064163
Why make a girl cum when you can be beating UFO on Lunatic?

>> No.22077792

>>22074309
Because UFO is easier

>> No.22079321

>>22067547
>stuck on some lame Discord forever
What a horrifying thought.
Discord servers make me feel out of touch. I do not bloody well understand the point of being in a big social blob with 200+ other people, led by some clique no doubt. That's like voluntarily returning to the grade school social scene, except with mostly ironic weeaboos. What the fuck is the appeal?

>> No.22079406

>>22009942
>>>/a/

>> No.22079419

>>22079406
Is /a/ pro- or anti-moe now?

>> No.22079607

Gobou is back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY7Op990ejI

>> No.22081761

>>22079607
Needed more gross food

>> No.22082056

>>22079419
Anti

>> No.22083432

>>22079321
It's mostly teens who feel lonely and are looking for somewhere to spread their shitty ironic humor.

I may sound like I'm complaining but I'm really not. It's the truth. I've found a total of 2 servers that ironic-humor loving teens haven't invaded.

>> No.22083457

>>22079406
Pro-moe. All the manime fags lost or are just in hiding, so who knows. Pro-moe is having it's voice heard though.

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https://twitter.com/nrfke/status/1172076150262128640

>> No.22089299

>>22054067
It was mysteriously abandoned one day. I hope he didn't die ...

>> No.22092616 [DELETED] 

>>22089299
Even if he does, he'll live in within your heart. As an arrow.

>> No.22092621

>>22089299
Even if he does, he'll live on within your heart. As an arrow.

>> No.22093771 [DELETED] 

please god someone give me some jap harsh noise with female vocals other than hijokaidan colabs

>> No.22095211

>>22055418
MGE is extremely vapid and shallow. It offers little of value to anyone beyond an utterly pointless "foundation" that can easily be replaced/replicated, and usually to far greater and more personalized effect.

>> No.22096206

>>22095211
>usually to far greater and more personalized effect.
The future of niche otaku stuff is personalized world generators. AI will give you your own world with a premise you like full of cute girls made for your taste!

>> No.22098150

>>22009408
>What's some real niche moe shit to get into outside of anime, manga, mainstream video games, figures, denpa, and VNs?
Sewing, carpentry, cooking (character bentos and shit like that).

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>>22079321
>>22083432
I've found that just using purpose-made servers and muting #general is the best way to use discord.

I do miss forums and IRC, but they had their share of pointless drama too.

>> No.22102547

>>22098150
What's otaku carpentry like?

>> No.22103875

>>22098245
IRC is still around & relatively popular though definitely not as good as it once was.

I do definitely miss forums. Most of the ones now are constant complaining & flamewars which generally isn't enjoyable whatsoever.

If you want to use Discord then try to avoid large Discord servers. Join smaller ones that are hobby-oriented, not socially-oriented.

>> No.22103982

>>22103875
>Most of the ones now are constant complaining & flamewars which generally isn't enjoyable whatsoever.
Same as ever then

>> No.22104031

>>22009408
>ukagaka
Them memories. Never managed to use them for anything due to shut language skills but still a neat idea.

>> No.22104663

>>22103982
Not really. Of course there was always flamewars but it's toxic just for the sake of toxicity now. Nothing enjoyable about that whatsoever.

>> No.22104916

>>22104663
Where did the phrase "toxic" come from? It's such a tumblrish sounding phrase.

>> No.22108586

>>22102547
Not that anon, but I'm guessing it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_carpentry

>> No.22108607

>>22104916
Like most of Tumblr lingo, it came from humanities departments and self-help.

>> No.22109555

>I've seen people make game boy roms and similar.

Dunno, that's just indie games? Just with Moe Girls. Look up e,g, FX UNIT YUKI, or Michirin9801 recently made some things and also nice chiptunes. They just pop up here and there.

There are new PC98 / X68000 releases every now and then, look up BEEP@AKIHABARAs Twitter for some of them (and other nice things).

DIY Electronics exist and some people make nice Anime PCBs in Japan.

Maybe you like Julie Watai.

Not so niche but you didn't say it: Itashas, DIY Figures, Anime Pixelart.

Well maybe you like something here.

>> No.22114247

Is pachislot music a niche otaku thing because I love the stuff daito puts out.

https://youtu.be/ZbQ3QK2pcto
https://youtu.be/T7a2UWh34J4

I especially like Nadja's engrish songs.
https://youtu.be/sCyrxrPelhk

>> No.22115096

>>22114247
>Is pachislot music a niche otaku thing
Yeah sure, although those links sound generic as heck

>> No.22115894

>>22055230
>everyone-has-to-be-transformed-and-made-into-a-woman's-sex-slave
I wouldn't mind so much if the choice of transformations wasn't either grotesque or gay. There are many male-to-blob-of-horror transformations, but not even one much more aesthetically pleasing male-to-futa transformation.

>> No.22116012

>>22115894
imo, I'd rather be a blob of horror than grow a vagina

>> No.22118440

>>22116012
How normal.

>> No.22120652

>>22096206
Something like a whole world made using https://www.seventhsanctum.com/ but more specialized?

>> No.22125124

>>22118440
Normal would be insisting on just staying a normal male

>> No.22128147

>>22120652
More specialized, and also lewder and more coherent, probably a single program instead of many independent generators. A big difficulty with procedurally generated content is making it all cohere together. You'd need every part of the world to reflect the premise while not being identical, the girls to harmonize with their part of the world, the various parts of the backstory to not clash (you don't want questions like "Why didn't they just use the magic artifact from the neighboring kingdom?") and so on.

>> No.22129995

>>22009408

Nothing 2D remains because they are easy targets to get into without needing much investment unlike stuff like idols or Japanese music, but that is more and more not the case with the catering to international tastes.

VNs used to be obscure and were probably the last "hidden subculture/niche" if you will, but they got brought into the limelight by ironic weebs, who continually keep on ruining stuff. I still wish that wasn't the case, and I contend that the opening up of stuff like that and Japan in general led to a lot of stuff taking a hit to quality. For me, Touhou music has gotten worse since 2012-2013 after almost half a decade of good stuff from around 2006 onwards. You don't see good artists like Cytokine or Mohican Sandbag anymore.

>> No.22130341

>>22129995
How did ironic weeb ruin VNs?

>> No.22130436

>>22130341
He's probably angry that instead of fan translators writing "oniichan", it's professional translators writing "brosuke" or something.

>> No.22134703

>>22128147
Can't wait for weeb DF.

>> No.22135022

>>22130341
>>22130436

Vocabulary wasn't really part of it, that has always been a problem with some of the official translations that love to be very liberal with their translations.

More the fact was the genre and interest of which VNs got attention was shifted with the influx of people who wanted to read charage/moege because they read Higurashi or a Key VN. There was a nice mix of stuff out there that had fan translations but that preference slanted things in the direction that smaller VN publishers who wanted to bring stuff over started catering to that taste. It's not much of an issue if you know Japanese but it warps the perception for people who only know English.

So you get a situation where some obscure stuff like Suigetsu which were okay/great which won't get anything but literal bottom of the barrel stuff like Nekopara can release on Steam and get people piling on top of each other to give it money.

The other bad thing which is slightly related is the amount of fan translated media has gone down significantly since its heydeys in the early 2000s. You barely see any fansubs or translated VN efforts anymore, as no one wants to give out stuff for free because the culture of consumption as opposed to creating and the amount of effort rewarded for doing either.

But I guess I'm pretty much an old man yelling at the clouds now. It is what it is...

>> No.22135117

>>22135022
Nekopara is popular anyway. Western ironic weebs aren't driving it. Fansubs died because crunchyroll and general availability of subs. They were already dying off before then though.
Crunchyroll might even have saved subs, because there are more than every now and you can expect most things to get subbed and maybe some fansubbers will hit the obscure stuff. Honestly the second wave of anime being cool has passed some years ago and by now you should have just learned Japanese or accept what you get in (your language).

>no one wants to give out stuff for free because the culture of consumption as opposed to creating and the amount of effort rewarded for doing either.
Probably that they can just get a job now doing the same thing. The culture of consumption instead of creation is nothing new though, it's half of why we have no anime based doujin culture. (the other half is undue elitism). As much as I hate patreon and stuff, it's actually sort of promoting the existence of such a culture more than it has existed until now.

>> No.22135124

>>22135117

You're right but that doesn't make the changes that happen any more discouraging to swallow or witness.

I think patronage may work out but I don't like any of the current services that do it. And crowd funding is a no go although Librapay may be okay if it wasn't software-focused. There's just too many failures without legal recourse to say the good we got was worth it.

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>>22089299
>>22092621
RIP?

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