/jp/ - Otaku Culture

kore osimai desu ne

I unrionically enjoy provoking you all’st to quarrel amongst yourselves

>>21978533
jamal brought piece to this thread you'll never be able to ruin

the other thread someone mentioned rakugo which OBVIOUS FUCKING LY lead to me googling "isekai rakugo" and wouldnt u know it theres a web novel on this theme. its a cozy read and the 噺家 is such a sweet and nice dude that it moved me a little. its had a pretty fuckin slow start tho http://ncode.syosetu.com/n9574di/

that having been said there's already a manga adaptation so an anime is only a matter of time. you really can publish anything and become a success in japan's writing industry huh

rename djt jamals heiwa thread

heres the theme song for jamals heiwa thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vy4-FF71o

>>21978553
interesting

today i'll mine all kanji with the gate radical

going to mine all kanji with radical 艮

finished

善し

The most obscure kanji usually have 魚 or 虫 as their main radical due to the nature of gooks.

start keeping a reading log. just write what you read that day and how many pages or characters

>>21978787
don't do this it creates mustard gas

ドクターストーン

そこそこおもしろいとおもうんだけど

シャミこにはかてなかったよ

>>21978791
wym

Is it still possible to convert the books in the cor to e-pub? I haven't done it in years and I can't tell if I'm doing it wrong or my new ereader is fucked up

>>21978816
r u rly posting about epub in a learn japanese from visual novel thread

>>21978834
this is not a learn from vn thread.

>wake up
>want to read eroge but have to do my reps first
I hate this part of the day

アメリカのごはん

しらべてたら

ありえないのでてきた

ターダッキン？

ほんとうにあるんですか

liking eroge is weird. it's weird to promote it as if it's like the peak of japanese. just grow up and read a book if you want to progress.

>>21979006
low t or a girl

I don't like eroge because it's a pain to run them. Even on windows.

>>21978791
he's right. follow instructions in image instead.

>>21979094
>Even on windows.
Not true, excluding early 2000-era games (PC98 games run perfectly in the neko neko emulator). For the vast majority of games you just download the iso, mount, install, play. Zero effort.

Guide to learning Japanese
Step 1 - Learn Kana
Step 2 - Read えろゼミ ～エッチにヤルきに
Step 3 - Read カミカゼエクスプローラー!
Step 4 - Read 最終痴漢電車374 聖娼女 ～性奴育成学園～
Step 5 - Read 黄昏の先にのぼる明日
Step 6 - Read となりに彼女のいる幸せ
Step 7 - Read しゅぷれ～むキャンディ ～王道には王道たる理由があるんです!～
Step 8 - Read スイセイギンカ
Step 9 - Read つよきす3学期
Step 10 - Read ノラと皇女と野良猫ハート
Step 11 - Read プリマステラ72 あきゆめくくる
Step 12 - Read 将軍様はお年頃 ふぁんでぃすく -御三家だヨ! 全員集合-
Step 13 - Read ぼくの一人戦争
Step 14 - Read 紅い瞳に映るセカイ
Step 15 - Read アストラエアの白き永遠
Step 16 - Read アッチむいて恋
Step 17 - Read アマカノ
Step 18 - Read いきなりあなたに恋している
Step 19 - Read いろとりどりのセカイ
Step 20 - Read 永焔の戦姫
Step 21 - Read オトメ＊ドメイン
Step 22 - Read カタハネ
Step 23 - Read 彼女のセイイキ
Step 24 - Read 神頼みしすぎて俺の未来がヤバい
Step 25 - Read クロノボックス
Step 26 - Read 神採りアルケミーマイスター
Step 27 - Read キサラギ
Step 28 - Read ギャングスタ・リパブリカ
Step 29 - Read クロノクロック
Step 30 - Read グリザイア:ファントムトリガー
Step 31 - Read ココロ@ファンクション!
Step 32 - Read サノバウィッチ
Step 33 - Read 残念な俺達の青春事情。
Step 34 - Read 将軍様はお年頃
Step 35 - Read スキとスキとでサンカク恋愛

And then you're fluent. Any questions?

>>21979232
>Any questions?
what if i have an iq above 90 so eroge is boring garbage, what do?

new word from minecraft: 苗木

>>21979281
did u mean to type below 90

>>21979377
i just dont see much enjoyment in eroge. i can understand the appeal but it seems so stupid, like something teenagers and low iq adults love.

Hey wasn't there a Google function that let you create cool interactive pages that you could link to anyone? Maybe I'm insane but I'm pretty sure that was a thing. Thought about writing some QM approved guides on anime cards and the subs resyncing that I could link when I need to.

>>21979232
My 質問 is "Why are so many of these eroge nukige?".

>>21979414
i'm just thinking google sites but idk. just write a pastebin post or something like all the cool kids

>>21979414
The explanation for anime cards is already available on itazuraneko's anki guide, as far as I know.
An explanation or tutorial for retiming subs would be genuinely helpful, since it'd be a solution to a frequently encountered problem.

>>21979431
>The explanation for anime cards is already available on itazuraneko's anki guide, as far as I know.
It is very incomplete and even has some wrong info. I saw that section and it seems it was written by someone taking my old anime cards guide, removing all the info they deemed unnecessary and then rewriting some sections for no good reason. I want to write an all in one retard proof guide that I can link to knowing I won't have to answer any more questions.

Yeah agree on the subtitle thing.

anyone here ever learn japanese without setting foot japan or speaking with a japanese person?

>>21979495

foot in*

>>21979495
Yeah kind of
hope that image isn't yours

>>21979501

why?

>>21979506
it's just all retarded
google translate, tagaini jisho
like what the fuck are you doing bro

>>21979515

かもしれない

>>21979518
uh man way to dig your own grave

あたまがわるいかもしれない

>>21979523

しらない
あんたがばかなひとだ
きらいです
じぶんだいすきだよ

>>21979547

>>21979553

なに
なでかおつくりましたか

>>21979415
I copy/pasted the games from my friend's EGS account, and took them from the 70 vote range to avoid super popular titles (thus making it look like more of a wall of random titles, than a series of well known kamige).

>>21979553

おまえのおかあさんのマンコでちんこころした

>>21979581

ちんこでころした

Anything else I should cover

>>21979617

all of that shit is a waste of time. move on to sentence-minding

ちゃんとにほんごべきょうしてください

>>21979621
lol you're going to cripple everyone in this thread if you continue like that

>>21979617
I'm curious how you study for kanken

>>21979627
Oh good point, adding that

>>21979621

mining*

>>21979617
looks good. im just thinking of mia memes like translation vs monolingual definitions, i+1 or not, etc

>>21978553
>isekai rakugo
Japan is a national treasure

>>21979232
Based, etc

>>21979636
Alright I'll add a section for MIA memes but I'm not sure how in depth I'll go about that
suppose I'll write a first draft and if you guys want you can send me suggestions or something

わたしはおっぱいがすき

why is okonatta used there instead of itta?

>>21979691

>>21979691
ここでしょうかいした

にほんごぺらぺら

たいわんじんのおんなのひと

たいほされてた

>>21979691
because they are different words

oh i see

行った

can either be okonatta or itta

wtf

itta = went
okonatta - performed

Stop using Anki to uncripple your Japanese

>>21979725
anki is basically rereading. how is that bad?

>>21979617
holy shit marys immersion approach (mia)
make sure u get the domain quick

>>21979744
If anything it would my marys input approach (MIA) I'd never use a word as gay as 'immersion' for language consumption

what's the difference between kasa and amagasa?

they both seem to mean umbrella

>>21979749
marys anime input (mai)

>>21979740
It's unnecessary to srs language becuase you get repetition all the time anyway when you use it

japanese is so fucking hard

just when you think you made progress, you still can't understand what people are saying

a lot of newfags today

Okay this is it
think I'll just write this casually over the coming days

>>21979791

based on what i have seen i doubt anyone here is fluent

>>21979818
i'm sure your critical, google translate-trained eye could tell

>>21979823

if you know enough japanese grammar you can tell what google translate meant even it's wrong.
i use it to help me with my sentence mining

>>21979827

even when it's

>>21979827
>sakura kpopfag
it all makes sense now

>>21979836

bitch, i'll be fluent while you still use worthless anki

what is the best way to practice vocab/kanji recall? anki droning is more memorisation, and i'm sure it goes in slowly, but trying to actually remember words without seeing them is very difficult and anki isn't good for that

>>21979827
くろでこれはでかい

かんぜんにでかい

>>21979869
>anki isn't good for that
it is, it's just slightly more difficult than recognition
personally i think practicing recall is a waste of time though, unless you're taking classes and have to do it

finished vn core, should i just stop using anki and continue reading voiced vns without it?

>>21979892

あんたのにほんごがわからない
それがへたです
べんきょうするのやめる

>>21979913
keep reviewing vncore until all cards are mature, then delete it
start a mining deck and don't mine more than 10 words per day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bapb74Chmxs

Just found this based youtuber, he's a guy that passed N1 and is now streaming games in Japanese and going through the language just to teach EOPs to speak Japanese. What a hero.

>>21979920
Stones and glass houses and stuff

ちゃんとはなせばやめる

>>21979930
>>21979913
mine 10+ a day but have the cards on anki as 10 a day

さくらがいちばんきれいなおんなのこだよ

それがしってるね

わたしはあたまがわるいがある

おれのにほんごがへたです

あたまがわるいからにほんごがはなせますん

おおきなちんこがある

>>21979961
two problems with this
new cards are easier when reviewed closer to when you first mined them, so it's good to have a small backlog
if you limit yourself to mining a certain number, you won't have to think about whether to mine something else for the rest of your reading session, which would take time and constantly break your flow

あんたはまんこがある

おまえはちいさなおちんちんがある

おおきなおっぱいがすきだよ

あんたのつまはおおきなおしりがある

あんたのおかあさんはわたしのおしりからたべたい

https://youtu.be/Rinpy7iANX0?t=75
never heard u could fuck up so and ri

>>21979753
There's 雨傘 because there's also 日傘

>>21980034

いってきます

あんたがしぬのほし

>>21979753
one describes ur mara

>>21980050

日傘　must mean a parasol

>>21980041
they can be less distinctive in handwriting

i haven't learned all 2100 kanji yet

i mean, well i haven't learned all 6k kanji yet so there's that

What'd be a good side-hobby to pick up along with learning 日本語?

>>21980182
reading

>>21980182
doing what that 瞑想 girl (qm???) is doing

>>21980034
>おしりからたべたい
Is this から the particle or is this the word 空?

>>21980193
Is meiso kun an electrical engineer?

>>21980201
big if true

>>21980193
attention seeking is a hobby?

>>21980182
3d idol

>>21980194
don't try to decipher gaijin japanese anon

>>21980182
麻雀

>>21980276
What am I supposed to with 3d idols? Remember their names? Listen to their songs? Masturbate to their pics? Dress up like one of them?

Oh shit I just realized I have literally 0 new cards haha I should consume some aozora shit again so I can have a small backlog and am able to go back to watching Anime

>>21980354
watch their variety shows, they're fun and there's a shitton of content
find girls you like, read their social media
the music can be alright every now and then but it's more of a byproduct than the main attraction

>>21980394
>find girls you like, read their social media
living to the fullest

Catched up with Berserk, learning japanese for 3 years was worth it.

>>21980408
>>21979942

>>21980408
what a thing to say while posting on this board

>>21980408

>>21980394
lol incel
>*whacks off to anime girl*

>>21980457
if u choose 2d uve fully accepted and embraced that it will never be u
but if its 3d then theres a chance u havent

>>21980414
Maybe you should improve your ability to write in English too, if you're still committing mistakes like "catched".

>>21980481
>if you've chosen 2d you've given up on life, but if it's 3d you still open yourself up to the possibility of actually talking to a girl one day

how to find a girl who's worth talking to

>>21980508
thats not what i was gettin at really
do u think ur gonna hang out with the idols u follow on twitter
if u talk to a girl it will prob be in spite of that and not because of it
same with 2d but no disillusionment over the 2d so maybe ur chances are actually better lol

>>21980514
you mean why

>>21979617
Let me guess you'll basically regurgitate how I explained anime cards the other day and they'll still be largely pointless.

>>21980552
Don't really remember
can you link that post?

>>21980526
i'm not the guy who made the original post about idols
i'm just saying it's hypocritical to knock somebody for "not living to the fullest" for following 3d while being into 2d, because at least they're still interested in human beings while a lot of 2d waifu people have just completely given up on that

>>21980394
wtf i want to be a dog now

>>21980556
Nah don't care enough to but I'm just calling it now since you always say my characterization of them is wrong even though it basically mirrors what you've said about them.

>>21980574
ur suggestin that its more likely a 2d guy has completely given up than an idol guy
but if u take the equal ground where neither of em are talkin to real human beings do u think its better if at least ur keepin up with the social media of a real human being ull never talk to ?

>>21980606
yeah
because as i said, it shows you're still interested in humans in general
and eventually you might think to yourself even if i can't be with that exact one, i would like to hang out with one of these and so you might sort your shit out

humans sure take it personally when they find out you want nothing to do with them as a whole lol

>>21980276
>>21980394
Are we talking about singing idols or gravure idols? If only there was someone brave enough to do both. I think those AKB 48 girls do both don't they? I am very torn between "wanting them to stay cute and pure" and "wanting to jack it to them".

>>21980676
why wouldn't they? in the end every healthy person wants to be loved

>>21980703
i meant that in a broader sense of wanting nothing to do with humanity, not on an individual basis; you can love each other ive no need for this nonsense

>>21980688
>I think those AKB 48 girls do both don't they
correct but not all of them do gravure, it's not as common these days at least in the main akb group and their gravure is pretty tame compared to actual gravure idols
the main attraction for me is definitely in their tv shows

貴様を愛しています

>>21980642
the way i see it theres more idealization and less awareness in the idol guy than the 2d guy
the idol guy is dreamin about a real person he doesnt know and will never meet and the 2d guy is dreamin about an immortal futa loli succubus harem no problem distinguishing fiction from reality
im sayin the 2d guy has more room in his head to consider hangin out with a real human being without his fantasy in the way because his fantasy isnt about a real human being

ＮＮＢばけーしょん

みた？
https://abema.tv/video/episode/25-122_s1_p1

Can someone link the video of matt reviewing his sentence cards?

>>21980782
this dude gets it imo

>>21980819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPcIwTjQ6uQ
This?

>>21980782
>im sayin the 2d guy has more room in his head to consider hangin out with a real human being
yeah i get your point, but i believe the 2d guy has less desire to hang out with a human being while that desire is evident in the 3d guy
and then it depends on whether the 3d guy is dead set on a specific person he will never meet in which case he is also doomed
or whether he can abstract from his desire of an idol to a desire of a human females in general, in which case i believe he is in a much better position than the 2d guy
i think we'll just have to agree to disagree

>>21980834
Yeah that's it thanks!

>>21980676
>humans
do not detach yourself from us, you are a part of this mess as much anyone else

>>21980722
you’re just traumatized by some past experience(s) and have now immaturely decided to try and separate yourself from human relationship as a whole which is impossible to do without further fucking yourself mentally but good luck trying

Uh can someone post the image in which I talked to yoga in the youtube comments?

Where do I find a test that's like jcat but better??

anyone know of a good psv emulator

>>21981009
Thanks anon.

>>21981055
Japanese is logical to a ridiculous degree though. And we're in a thread about learning Japanese, nor Urdu.

躊躇の「躊」と範疇の「疇」は右側が同じだって今気づいた。

>>21979725
lol

>>21981214
just looks like a bunch of ching chongs to me

>>21979774
>you get repetition all the time anyway when you use it
repetition that's extremely irregular which means taking unnecessarily longer to learn any given thing, and that requires you to look up whatever it is you want to learn repeatedly which is often distracting and breaks flow. anything memorized via anki is a lookup saved later.

i mean think about it why would u call names when u could just objectively prove som1 wrong haha

also idk why the above is a problem if u know japanese its not a big deal

maybe save the memorizing for after u learn japanese ? just a thought haha

>>21981439
>who said anything about rote memorization?

That's what anki is. It's rote memorisation. It's useful to get yourself a foundation no doubt. But as soon as you can you should be weaning yourself away.

>>21981458
>That's what anki is. It's rote memorisation
no it isn't, not if you farm your own shit. i don't use pre-made decks, everything comes from context.

>>21981456
why not memorize important stuff that will help make learning japanese easier.

>>21981455
That's how I was when I started.
My record is 80k
I won't be able to keep it up though. Once the summer break is over I need to be balls deep in my thesis.

>>21981494
sorry i had to wreck u so bad u picked the wrong time to jump in

>>21981507

>>21981515
>and are using entire sentences. You're learning what things mean by rote memorisation.
lol wtf you don't memorize the sentences

imagining a subhuman rat who never learned english posting u on the web as he drools on his keyboard

>>21981515
/r/learnjapanese is leaking again

オテンキ イイ デスネ
いや,いまのたいふうはかぞくをころされちゃった

>>21979940
Another video series, if people from 4chan can stomach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUV6RjgOr8g bloke who speaks like 10 languages and spent 10 years in Japan doing the same thing.

>>21981588
I like Tim. He has a lot of interesting anecdotes from his time working with Suda51 and other Japanese devs.

>>21981584
why wouldnt u just learn enough japanese to become functional in japanese and then do all the hard memorization after ? its like saying u should learn every component in a car engine before turning the key lol

>>21981596
have you learned any japanese by watching these youtubers

>>21981674
kill yourself retard

>>21981685
go shoot yourself in the head

>>21981689
sorry today just isnt ur day no need to be buttsore over it

>>21981691
i know i was there i believe the guy even said 10万 in response to 1 of my posts

>lachrymal secretion
lmao

>>21978486
>almost finished the first beginner part on imabi
>also know the hundred first grade kanji and their readings
>tfw feels good to make progress

say something nice.

shes a darling

>>21982108
it's a big time and money investment

>>21982054
100% virgin. Based.

>>21982099
i can't imagine any girl dating you and being happy

>>21982223
Oh sorry it was
I was nice in the post I replied to the post telling me to be nice

i wonder what the iq of the girl that will eventually marry hayai guy will be

対象の中身をいろいろ取捨選択しながら「好き」「嫌い」と反応しているのが世間です。「そういう反応をするな。中身に執着するな。それが幸せになる技術なのだ」ということです。面白い対象が出てこようが嫌いな対象が出てこようが、ただの音の現象、眼の現象という認知の仕方をして心は余裕綽々としている。対象から離れた、要するに無執着の心を作る一瞬一瞬、それがヴィパッサナー瞑想の訓練の現場です。

>>21982403
i really cant understate the importance of being the man of a girls dreams were usually focused on the girl of our dreams but imagine having a girl be ur #1 fan and dream about u all the time u can make this happen for some1 if u just allow urself to see beyond the fake world stuff like porn puts in front of u

>>21982400
I like mashiro just as much as the next guy but that's fucking pathetic.

you will be streaking with steve right ?

>>21982763
don't really like challenges which i am certain to beat

wondering how much time steve has left on this planet

>>21982839
Don't know dude it kind of becomes important to think about race when you are letting in millions of people into your country from uneducated low IQ violent shitholes and they tear your country apart

>>21982860
who?
invite to quiz

>>21982872
im not arguing that, im arguing the illegals

>>21982868
this is only true for the US
I am talking about Europe, no population group is less likely to commit crimes than Europeans except some east Asians

it's funny being in the same classes as blacks with goofy ass hair and shoes and im thinking wtf are they trying to accomplish here and as the semester progress they all drop out

>>21982887
i would drop out too if i had to take classes with you lmfao

yalls moms go to college

moetard going to collitch getting him life back on track

it clearly is but were here for u dude any time

together we can help u stop beign a pedophile with a bad attitude and get ur life back on track

feel free to worry about yourself lol

>>21982964
>Doesn't really say much good about your college if they got in, does it?
affirmative action in the US guarantees diversity in the vast majority of universities including ivy league.

>>21983009
dont care

>>21983009
now just one second

what are you studying moetard?
i'm guessing cs

doxable

Has anyone been doing sentence cards for a long time here? I'd like to do some objective analysis of anki stats of different stat types and I'd like as many sentence card stats as I can get.

>>21983045
you won't have a sufficient sample to demonstrate the supposed superiority of your ass system.

>>21983045
As if anyone with bad stats will show them here.

>>21983084
Do you use the qm-developed & -certified anime cards method?

>>21983045
i would but i delete my decks every few months
here's my current one, obviously not long term enough

>>21983093
I need the ENTIRE thing with lifetime stats dude

>>21983097
i know, calm down lmao

>>21983127
just explore the site dude and stay there

>>21983127
r/ajatt i guess
or r/learnjapanese though i'm not sure how many people actually use sentence cards there

>>21983084
Are you the missing djtguide neocities maintainer?

>>21983176
>actually nuke unsubscribed today
>even though tomorrow would have been payday
lmao, trolled by nuke
how will you ever recover?

>>21983179
>he has a level of persistence with his method that makes it work for him even if it's not the most efficient
based

>>21983150
wonder if nuke knows the same guy he's talking about in this video is the one who had a childish outburst at him on discord lol

>>21983179
it is the most efficient you just don't get it

hi guysh

>>21983192
maybe if no one gets it the problem is with your method and not them

>>21983127
You should make a reddit post with a title like "On Anki Cards and Retention Rates", and then write down something like
"Good evening, fellow redditors.
I have recently speculated, based partly on my own experience, that making anki with a piece of context in the back (such as an audio clip or a transcript of a sentence where a word was spotted) can significantly aid in increasing one's retention rate, by tying different parts of one's memory.
It is my belief that cards with a word in front take less time to review than cards with an entire sentence, since one needs to only focus on looking at, and therefore umambiguously recalling one pair of pieces of information (which, in this case, is one word, as displayed in kanji, and both its reading and meaning), so as to not trouble the mind with having to reinterpret and reconstruct an entire sentence's context-specific meaning over and over. As part of my personal experience, I would like to offer the following statistics from my anki collection. For the sake of not falling into pure irrational faith-based dogmatism, I would very much pleased to see if you could kindly allow me to look at your anki statistics, along with a brief description of the kind of cards you've been using, so as to see how well my hypothesis might stand up against factual evidence.
Thank you very much giving me a moment of your time.
Yours trully, qm"

>>21983209
ur basically the same level of annoying

>>21983215
Wow I'm impressed you bothered to write all that just so your efforts aren't in vain I allow you to post that under my name on Reddit

>>21983209
answer me: >>21983158

gotta rep some latin tables i'll be back in a few

I hope when I am done with my site it gets added to the OP site I'm sure it'll become necessary reading before shitposting in this thread

lol we can stop talking about matto and qmanlet at this point. internet "look how good my japanese is" guys are a diamond dozen these days

>>21983272
Don't worry you'll see when I am done writing it
I want to stress that the version I'll first publish is only a draft and that I will want all your suggestions to keep improving it

>I'm almost halfway through Genki 2 and decided to buy my first novels. One hell of a huge step, but there's no learning without actual practice.
this one might make it

its funny after how getting busted for cheating hes now moved on to making a website because as we all know those who cannot do teach

>>21983295
Sure, send me a couple pictures and I'll see what I can use as a banner for the site

>>21983286
they got physical copies lol probably not

>>21983299
Something like this would look good.

>>21983324
think that's not quite my taste
you got anything else?

>>21980909
just retards sperging out over how to type

>>21983331
What kind of image tags do you prefer?

>>21983340
I like girls from Touhou the most
as for asthetics, I really liked the style of images itazura anon put on his site

>>21981067
>Japanese is logical to a ridiculous degree

i am really liking the music so far

>>21983345
here you go quiz

>>21983389
Air, Clannad, and Little Busters all have very nice soundtracks.

>>21983345
Which games have you 1CC'd on Normal or above?

just plugged in the hd 558s my friend gave me and the mora/syllables in japanese are more pronounced and easier to hear than with the cheap logitech headset i was using. the problem is that i still don't know japanese.

>>21983446
It doesn't look bad, as far as aesthetics go, but since you're introducing stuff related to anime, it'd make sense to use a screencap you've taken of an anime you've watched.

>>21983286
they also posted this

>>21983470
ベイスド

>>21983477
have to keep in mind it can happen to anyone, even your neighbor

>>21983470
nice

>>21983474
llok can be beaten in a day if we are talking about point device mode so it should be alright

>>21983514
>just how inefficient are sentence cards, think it may exceed my wildest expectations
and this is why no one takes your scientific inquiry seriously

>>21981465
It's still rote, just better rote. Being better doesn't make it stop being rote, it just means the problems rote traditionally had are weaker with it. You should try to learn things without it before falling back on it. Organic learning is higher quality and stronger than repeated forced memory training in isolation.

>>21983518
hey I'm just observing trends

>>21983514
but you don't know that it would be different with anime cards which take longer to create lol

am i allowed to send you my anime card stats as a sample then? because they're not pretty and you won't want them.

it's kind of funny/sad that so many people start learning japanese to watch anime without subtitles, when that takes the longest out of all the possible types of japanese media to get good at

>>21983548
I'm not trying to be a scientist dude I'm trying to formulate an internet argument
what is your problem, I already know it's true it's just about showing some stats so I am believed

With my personal radicals, this is gentleman over seashells: 責

Seashells represents money or value. The gentleman is sitting on a pile of seashells. He is hoarding wealth. He is a Jew. I always blame the Jews. So:

責 -- blame, condemn

god im getting so sick of you guys. sentence cards are fine, not using anki at all is fine, anime cards are cool, fuck off

i went into this expecting to make more progress than i have, but i've gotten what i deserve because i'm not spending enough time with the language every day.

>>21983562
>don't talk about stuff!

>>21983561
thanks i always have a hard time remembering that one hope this helps

>>21983514
sentence cards take like 10 seconds to make. Copy the sentence, put the unknown word and its translation or definition on the back with furigana. If you make good cards (i+1, not long sentences, etc) then sentence cards are great and can be very easily reviewed. It's almost effortless but you still benefit greatly.

>>21983554
>I already know it's true it's just about showing some stats so I am believed
jesus christ

>>21983548
It'd be impossible to ever find enough evidence linking any two phenomena. Therefore, any scientific theory must partly rely on faith

>>21983571
FUCK off dude

i support minimalism

>>21983579
fuck off kierketaard

I support シコシコ主義

>>21983586
best posr so far

>>21983574
>put the unknown word and its translation or definition on the back with furigana
i don't even do that anymore most of the time
sentence on the front, auto-generated furigana on the back
of course you take a glance at the "important word" to make sure the furigana is correct
i find definitions are necessary, only when the context doesn't make clear what the word means

>>21983519
i did, for months. it took forever, I probably learned 20 words total in 3 months. and by learned i mean being able to perfectly read and recall them, not just go "ive seen this before" while still being unsure of the exact reading and meaning. the latter situation was far more common than the former

>>21983593
*i find definitions are rarely necessary

>>21983627
well to me it is, i guess it depends on how far you've progressed already
i definitely used to put definitions more often but i'm not sure if that was because i actually needed them or because people said they belong on sentence cards
as i said, if it's ambiguous i'll put a cue as to the meaning or in very rare cases a definition
but for 95% of cards i find it not necessary these days

>>21983522
The only thing you are observing is what your juvenile brain is projecting.

looknig at the posts in the last lil while reminds me of database guy lol

>>21983654
i've never seen a morph and i never fucking will

>>21983661
dont be so sure

>>21983648
You just projected

project this *removes pants*

Already I need some discussion material
let's talk about sentence cards vs word/anime cards

why dont we discuss how ur a manlet who doesnt know japanese instead

cool ideaa

JAV SENTENCE CARDS

Uh that one I didn't need for my site
like I said I'm not proud of that image I'd be glad if people don't think less of me for it

what's japanese for cringe

>>21983720
why aren't you proud of it?

>>21983694
sentence cards:

pros
-reinforces words' meaning and grammar
-see correct usages of new words
-see alternative usages of known words
-reinforce phrases and idioms
-see what words are suitable in the context

cons
-take slightly longer to review

word cards:

>>21983752
>sentence cards force you to see the word used in a proper context (grammatical and in terms of meaning) which is going to help you with production down the line

I doubt that is true. You are seeing them in one context that you have previously seen them in before rather than a number of contexts which would actually let you see a pattern and reinforce usage so I think the answer is consuming more.
Now assuming this is true, audio cards would still be superior because after doing the word card you simply read/listen to the context on the back and you'd gain the same benefits.


>their creation is extremely quick
I have not seen somebody create a sentence card really quickly. Can you show me a video of somebody making a full sentence card?

>if you know the rest of the sentence the meaning is often clear just from that
I'm not sure what you mean by that. You will gain a certain amount of predictive ability merely by consuming more and gaining more experience with the language. Sentence cards have nothing to do with that. If you mean you know the answer to your cards before finishing reading it, then that is a huge disadvantage. You are not reviewing in an authentic environment that tests whether you actually recalled the relevant piece of information, but merely recall a scene you have previously seen.

>during reviews you only have to think about whether you understand the sentence or not
Same with audio cards. In fact it's even simpler because you only need to think about whether you knew the meaning for 1 word and the reading for 1 word rather than an entire sentence. With sentence cards testing yourself on the sentence meaning is harder because you are always getting assistance from the one context you have seen before and will never see again.

>>21983739
Nuke海兵隊猊下 doesn't have time for you 御百姓さん

>>21983789
>Now assuming this is true, audio cards would still be superior because after doing the word card you simply read/listen to the context on the back and you'd gain the same benefits.
but you never actually do this, with sentence cards you're forced to do it because it's the whole point

>>21983802
Except I do no matter how much you deny it.

>>21983808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

>tfw haven't had any meaningful social plans in 3 years
HAHAHAAH i'm going to fucking lose it bros

>>21983789
>You are seeing them in one context
you see them again and again because they show up in other sentence cards

>Can you show me a video of somebody making a full sentence card?
I can probably make a video of it. With yomichan it's 1 click, manually it's maybe 10 seconds

>>21983879
oops i meant as a way to occupy your time not make friends

>>21983882
>to occupy your time
i feel like that's what i've been doing my whole life and it didn't work out

wrong guy

>>21983911
lol i thought you liked pitch accent

>>21983896
>give more than receive
so it pretty much tells me to pay for this guy >>21983891

>>21983896
if u gotta watch a yt vid to figure out how to make friends then jesus help u lol

>>21983914
yes

>>21983932
thats fine too dude i only got a couple ppl i really care about and am ride or die for and the rest are just red tape

all friendships are meaningless if you ain't part of the one and only team友達gang

Can I get some more sentence card users to show off their stats?
Do we have matt or yoga stats?

can u stfu

someone post something funny

*holds up mirror*

>>21984051

i masturbated and it wasn't even fun

>>21984026
yoga does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoPjhdWHKF8

Japanesegaryben had almost 10,000 at 13 months I think. He mentions it in his 13 months video. Britvsjapan has stats in pic, more at https://www.britvsjapan.com/learning-japanese-18-months-update-fluent/

>>21983974
i go to university

how come everyone on this website is a fucking uni student. why didn't i get the memo that i should go to uni

>>21983920
stop trying to discourage people from improving their life situation asshole

>>21984099
lol i was about to join the navy until i found out that poor fags like me go in to uni for free

i'd make friends with people from here or a related discord and maybe even play tf2 with them but i won't allow that to happen until i can watch 6 episodes of any random anime every day for 2 months straight and so far i can't even manage half an episode before i wanna alt tab

>>21983932
Don't worry anon, coming from someone who has had alot of friends and always had it easy befriending people. Having fun alone and being contend with it is a gift while being with friends and not having fun or feeling bad is a curse.

anime is pretty boring that's why. even with high comprehension i have to alt tab every 5 mins

>>21984139
wtf i hate life now

low comprehension is always boring

>>21981439
This has a really narrow view born from being a beginner. Common words (maybe the core 10,000 words?) all pop up enough that there won't be months between them if you read consistently. To be clear, I', talking about words like 発表, 環境, etc. Not uber common words like "日", but part of the core 10,000 words that are used 95% of the time or whatever. You'll see them daily if you're reading a decent amount, yet they are overwhelmingly what people use anki to grind. It's more like
first encounter "whats this? lets look it up"
1 day later "what was this again? looks it up"
2 day later "there it is again, I know it"
3 day later "there it is again, I know it"
4 day later "there it is again, I know it"
5 day later *understanding it so intuitively no attention is drawn to it*
(continue on into infinite)

For words more "rare" that you might indeed see it only once a month, like maybe 天譴, your fears are unfounded on the grander scale. First, you'll know almost every word around them, so guessing from context/tone is easy. Don't even need to look them up. Second, kanji provide more than enough clues in most cases to figure the meaning of the word out intuitively - a lot of more uncommon vocabulary in Japanese are just compounds like 病根 which don't warrant looking up or grinding in anki. Third, your examples only go up to 2 months, but that's bitch baby tier. As you grow as a reading adult with years of experience, you'll see these words a hundred times naturally even if they only show up once a month. Finally, truly rare words such as 莞爾 or 吝嗇 are so uncommon you might only see them once or twice and your life anyway. Suffice to say there's no point grinding them as flashcards so you can be prepared for the few moments in your life when you see them, no less than you would grind rare English vocabulary that you haven't encountered yet.

tl;dr Your post is very clearly coming from a position of a beginner trying to justify his beliefs, despite lacking the actual life experience necessary to know whether he's right or not.

>>21984156
i only watch anime im interested in but it's still mostly boring

Fucking tae kim! Playing with my emotions to make me learn

>>21984319
I have no words for anyone who measures the daily characters they read, sorry.

>>21984326
the feature was already there so i just started paying attention to it because it felt like i wasn't progressing much and i was curious how much people read per day, particularly when they recommend reading and ditching anki. people often count the pages they read from light novels and stuff so i don't think it's weird.

>>21983470
only problem here is shit taste

>>21984338
This is the kind of thing that's best left as fuzzy data. It's hard to describe how much time people in DJT waste obsessing over minute stats, and it's already poisoning your thoughts with "minimum amount I should be reading" etc. The key to language learning is "don't think, feel". If I were to give a recommended minimum amount of reading a day it would be in hours anyway. 1 hours a day for busy people or people who don't actually care about Japanese media, 3 hours a day for people with free time, and 6-8 hours for NEETs.

starting my anki journey made me hate anime because i'm too afraid to use subs now even though i might be missing 5% and it took me two years to admit it

>>21984374
i don't understand what you mean

>>21984384

I'll think "I;ve been doing Japanese for x amount of time I should be able to watch this with no subs" but might miss a word hear and the that makes me lose context and I start to enjoy it less.

I began to see all Japanese media as a chore because I can't just turn my brain off and watch the subs because I understand too much of the words being spoken to ignore them but not enough to watch without subs for some anime

>>21981448
>How many characters a day is a good goal
1 more than you managed yesterday.
>>21981588
Tim's videos are extremely good.
>>21981602
Nobody learns a language from youtube. That's not the point.

>>21984404
wouldn't this be one of the perfect cases to use anime cards?

anyone else here complain about how they suck in the tiny hope that someone will magically post something that will revolutionize the way you view the process and you'll start making rapid gains from that minute onward?

>>21984410
or just go through it with japanese subs. no need to spends 10 minutes making 5 inefficient cards

tell me why this loser hater just got destroyed by matt's high verbal ability.

i filled out a hiragana table i found online to practice my hiragana writing!!! this was actually rly fun to do and i personally love writing each of the symbols ^^

>>21984435
mega upboated

>>21984281
yea being in a state of always forgetting how to read a word really only happens if u dont consume enough compelling content lol shit on that noob

>>21984433
lmfao

>>21984433
lmao

>>21984435
it actually took me like 2 years to learn all the hiragana and katakna by heart because i was so busy with high school at the time lol, but i did learn it through repetition

>>21984435
wow subarashiii(epic) my dude! You sure are going to be one of those people that pass N1 in 10 years!

>>21984080
Thank you!

>>21984433
What the fuck are Gary and Matt even talking about here lol how far are these guys up each others asses

Can someone give me a quick rundown into what they are saying in this?

https://twitter.com/Cowboy_Dev/status/1167648560575320064

Heard that this offended a lot of TV Broadacasts into not playing it. Want to know why though.

best way to learn haraganas https://quizlet.com/88783439/gravity

>>21984467
lmfao

>>21984435
>he didn't do all his kana training in his head, by visualizing all the symbols
For me, it was simpler and easier than writing all of it down, over and over again.

>>21984464
honestly you make a good point here not gonna lie lol, and i say this as someone who usually likes matt's stuff

>>21984435
you just crippled yourself kid

>>21984491
wtf quiz, go to sleep already

>>21984491
who did you mean to respond to here

fucking quiz is cheating on the (you) market too by (you)ing himself

sometimes i post anonymously and /djt/ is none the wiser

>>21984519
i don't get what you mean, ive never seen u not post anonymously

The Lowercasers are driving themselves insane hahaha

>>21984404
>I began to see all Japanese media as a chore because I can't just turn my brain off and watch the subs because I understand too much of the words being spoken to ignore them but not enough to watch without subs for some anime
damn same man. i don't mind it for reading stuff, but for anime it's so annoying having to pause and rewind 5 or more times an episode. i'm starting to think learning japanese is worth it for reading stuff (VN's, manga, LNs) but not really for anime. takes so much to be able to understand anything outside of slice of life 100% without any subs or lookups.

i also change my posting style so you'll never know who's me

sorry bros but i'm going to sleep, so the thread quality is going to drop significantly.
enjoy whatever you are up to

>>21984544
>Uppercase greentext
>Lowercase writing
>Uppercase "VN" and "LN"
Something tells me you are having conflicting feelings on what you want to be, you doing alright, man?

Also I am going to bed if anyone was wondering

Actually that might be a good idea. Really wanted to finish writing the first section today but I'm a bit too slow.

i switch between upper and lowercase posting all the time. and sometimes i use punctuation and sometimes i don't.

>>21984571
What are you going to listen to while falling asleep?

is qm german or what

>>21984573
i stay the same in this thread but there are threads on other boards where you will be made fun of if you dont uppercase post so i always conform to the rules of the specific thread

>>21984577
I don't really listen to anything while trying to fall asleep. It's really hard me to fall asleep in the first place, to the point where if there is a single light (like an LED) on in my room my ability to fall asleep will greatly suffer. My sleep is also extremely light to the point where you can talk to me and I'll give you a functioning reply. It's kind of fucked up and I never feel like I am sleeping well (maybe once a month actually). It's also why my sleeping rhythm keeps making rounds around the clock and it's impossible for me to sleep consistently no matter how many times I try.

>>21984589
ive gotten so used to listening to audiobooks and shit while sleeping that i always have to listen to something now. sometimes podcasts in english if thats what im feeling like

>>21983250
>my site it gets added to the OP site
no fuck you bud not fucking happening
a piece of shit sociopath like you isn't going to piggyback off the hard work of others for free advertising
you can go fuck yourself wannabe eceleb fail son

>>21984594
Calm down I don't actually expect it to be on the OP
the site is pretty much a collection of all my talking points on DJT
after I am done writing it we'll pretty much never have to talk about learning Japanese again because you can just link to my site
look forward to it

how do i become not only the most loved /djt/ poster, but also the most loved person in the nihongo learning community

>>21984601
i'm already loading my cannons while waiting for your site to be up lol

>>21984621
if you mean criticisms and debate I'd be happy about that
because I what I plan on releasing is just a first draft and I'll keep improving and expanding it afterwards

i'm gonna shill qm's site on twitter to matt and other miatards

>>21984629
i meant this, but i guess not that many know it anymore

word of the daaaaaaaay: 編隊

guys it is REALLY throwing me off how nips or at least anime characters almost always pronounce ga as nya/nga

>>21984641
Oh I don't think you can actually DDOS it. Suppose you can try when it is up.

>>21984580
He's Russian, but has lived in Germany since he was a kid, as far as I know.
His father died in the Chechen War, I think he said once.

>>21984653
damn poor guy luckily he's pretty alpha and doesn't seem bothered by it.

>>21984631
They already have the djt site on their mia github, so they wouldn't be surprised about another djter making his own site

>>21984653
https://youtu.be/PkIM4ShGBVc
if that's the case, i'm going to give qm a break

>>21984653
were you reading me shitposting on /int/? I sometimes just make up stories to post about you shouldn't take it seriously dude. Didn't it say somewhere on the site that shit people write is a work of fiction? This was.
My father is alive right now. He is a hardcore alcoholic though and health problems are piling up with him showing so sign of slowing down on drinking. Probably going to drink himself into his death.

nvm fuck qm after all, don't give him even a slightest break guys

qm is my german autistic kouhai please be patient

>>21984607
jamal will prob hold that title til he croaks desu

>>21984657
Judging by his description of how he lives, his background, etc. (lower-middle class-ish, lives in a shitty neighborhood surrounded by troublesome neighbors, lifts weights, has done factory work in addition to having to do class/homework), he seems like somebody who wouldn't've likely become a weeaboo, and ended up becoming djt's biggest success story in what seems like a stroke of pure fate (even though it probably involved tons of hard work and effort, just like anything else that actually matters).

IQ is heritable and predicts success so nothing QM has done can be attributed to his good character in fact free will doesn't exist so he doubly can't be proud of his success except he will anyway because that's his instinct as a creature and the world is deterministic

>>21984719
>free will doesn't exist
this is my favorite meme, i want to kms every time i see it

>>21984719
IQ might be heritable, but dedication & effort aren't. If they were, then I'd probably be a Chemical Engineering genius just like my grandfather, instead of a Humanities pussyboi who spends his free time masturbating to anime feet.

Should I finally watch the yoga video as material to write about on my site? Haha suppose I must

u have to market the website to redditors who dont like matt and yoga they will eat that shit up

>>21984756
I'm definitely not dumb, judging by the fact I've got no problem I've got no problem learning about Philosophy or Mathematics, but I don't really have a lot of stamina or willingness to put up with completing any big, long term projects that I can't start to immediately reap benefits from.

quiz have you ever played tf2?

>>21984786
Think I launched it up once, maybe a total of 2 hours in all my life
got sick of it after that

are we gamer now? daily japanese gameing thread?

>>21984772
The only kind of people who would accept anime cards to learn Japanese with would be people who would either implicitly or explicitly accept the input hypothesis. Anybody who would completely reject MIA might probably reject AJATT or other kinds of input-based language learning methods. The kind of person who would accept anime cards would be somebody who would fundamentally kind of agree with MIA/AJATT, but not be a full cultist. I'm not sure where one could find such people on reddit. Maybe r/anime?

>>21984815
i dont think it really has much to do with the method it just has to be marketed in a certain way

Okay yoga's video was a bunch of fucking nothing.
Glad I don't have to address anything in it.

>>21984641
>using LOIC instead of HOIC
scientology raid kiddie detected
honestly glad people as old as you exist, but get with the times boomer

>>21984815
there's redditors who accept the input hypothesis and hate matt

>>21984835
You should still address sentence cards (even if just by stating that they take longer than vocabulary cards to review and distract one from the main element that one wishes to be able to recall) for completion's sake.

>>21984860
Like rarepotato65 and vlad? That's one in every 100 language learning redditors.

lets put it this way, some people have free will, some people dont.

>>21984704
who is he loved by other than you

>>21983750
There's also a hybrid/switch type where it's vocab at the top and clozed sentence below. You can do it like sentence cards at first and then like vocab cards when you get a better grasp. They're easy to make with pop-up dictionaries too.

>>21984890
also me, but my love is not exclusive to jamal, it is for all of you guys

>>21984890
that wasnt me

>>21984866
they take like 5 seconds longer, depending on the length. with sentences, you get a better grasp of word usage. it's completely worth the few seconds more. not to mention it's easier to remember something that has a context than something out of context

if i said to remember the word "družval" you would forget it soon after but if I said to remember the word and have a context like "that guy that's passionate about his hobbies is such a družval", it's easier to remember and use correctly.

>>21985023
Read supermemo's 20 rules.

Alright I finished writing the first section after all. I got lazy in some parts and there is definitely need for improvement but I'll get the rest done first. Looking forward to seeing how far I'll get tomorrow.

this is the current table of contents btw

>>21985119
can you include a section for tf2?

>>21984866
there is a whole section on sentence cards
just saying yoga's video didn't add anything valuable that I felt was worth addressing

>>21985121
no

>>21985132
I'll consider it

>>21985119

>>21985119
so do you not read actual books just because you cant make anime cards out of them