/jp/ - Otaku Culture

oops sorry guys wrong board

check my thread at http://zip.4chan.org/v/imgboard.html

>>2188553

It's just as much /jp/ related as /v/ related.

>>2188558
It isn't because it's a fucking video game.

>>2188562
Yeah? So is Halo and you guys talk about that all the time.

I just about went everywhere I can around Miros, have lvl 13 and not a single quest completed.
I don't know where to go next since all the other dungeons have people that won't let me through and I can't read the quests.

>>2188562

Okay, let's get rid of all video games then.

Touhou is definantly out.
Other doujin games are out.
VNs are interactive, so they can be technically considered games

What's left? I WANT TO LIVE IN JAPAN XD threads?

>>2188570

>What's left? I WANT TO LIVE IN JAPAN XD threads?

That, figs and idols. Then again, figs are usually of things that would be considered /a/ or /v/ under that broad classification.

lol @ anonymous playing games that they don't understand.

>>2188570
Touhou isn't a video game dipshit, it's a doujin.

Visual novels are ported to video games, but we only talk about the pc version.

7th dragon isn't a doujin, isn't a visual novel and isn't a eroge. It's a fucking video game, a handheld console game. Shit goes in /v/ and not /jp/.

Stop trying to force unrelated material here just because you like the game, please.

>>2188583

And doujin games aren't games?

Sound logic there, bro.

>>2188583

Touhou is obviously a game. Why are you even bothering to argue otherwise? It goes here because no one else wants it. Same with other obscure Japanese games that /v/ won't accept.

New copypasta :
Touhou isn't a video game

>>2188587
video games = games

games =/= video games

doujin = game

doujin =/= video game

Learn your stuff nutsack.

>>2188594

>Video

Repeat after me

>Video

Can anyone in the class tell me what video means? Anyone?

New copypasta :
games =/= video games

>>2188553
OP got link to your thread? because I don't see on it on /v/.

>>2188591
Touhou is an audio game. Prove me wrong.

>>2188594

I guess that must make it a Traditional Game, then.

I'll go bring the good news to /tg/ posthaste.

>>2188600

That's because there isn't one.

>>2188553

Is the same idiot arguing with me that doujin games are not games.

>>2188603
Oh, I see.

>>2188594
>doujin = game
Oh wow.

Why can't you even bother to look shit up on Google/Wikipedia before writing dumb shit and making you look like an idiot?

ITT same retard trying to enforce /v/ shit here.

>>2188607

No, doujin GAME = game. Christ. Not all doujin are games, but all doujin games are games.

>>2188548
Link to game?

>>2188594
Not even trying.
Do you even know what doujin means?

Anyway I started playing this game, looks fun my only complaints are the language and the 3D, but the former may be fixed in the future.

>>2188626
Nobody gives a shit.

Take your threads back to /v/ if you to talk about this game so much.

>>2188594
I: video games = games
II: games =/= video games
-----------
I+II: video games + games =/= games + video games | +video games
=> games =/= games


nice logic there bro.

Doesn't the fact that it's untranslated kind of automatically make it /jp/? /v/ + untranslated games = lol yeah right

Everyone seems to have handled the retarded Touhou isn't a video game comment, so instead incoming pent-up rant:

anyway, faggots like you >>2188553
are the reason /jp/ is shit. When I started checking /a/ again a couple weeks ago I actually saw a large P4 thread without a single sage, troll, reported for off-topic, etc. even though it's 100% unrelated to /a/. If /a/ can actually discuss stuff that they like, why the fuck does /jp/ have to be such nazis?

Oh yeah, it's because we have fucking idol threads and /lang/trv/ threads mashed in with Touhou/VNs/doujins and since they can't get rid of the entire subjects they don't like, you faggots have take out your frustration by reporting and shitposting every time they see something borderline off-topic.

>>2188626
>unkownsmirk.jpg
Also how difficult is the game? May decide not to play it if it's too easy.

>>2188636
>I: video games =/= games
fixed..

>doujin = game
Nice trolling, /v/irgin. Now go home.

>>2188640
Ah, screw that.
>I in II: video games + games =/= games + video games | +video games

is dwarf fortress a game, but not a videogame?

>>2188645
well this isn't right yet but I think you know what I mean.

Pray tell, gentlemen, what defines a video game?

Just because a game is Japanese and have no translations doesn't mean it's automatically /jp/ stuff, don't misunderstand it guys.

Eroge companies stuff and Touhou is welcome here, softhouses aren't. Should we be posting Jump Superstars here? Yeah, that game with Naruto, One Piece, etc just because it's Japanese? Come on guys, it makes no sense.

We have /v/ for this kind of stuff.

/jp/ - Touhou, eroge, doujin games, visual novels, untranslated Japanese games, anything by ATLUS.

Now stop bitching about it.

>>2188651
A video you can control!

>>2188638

In full agreement with you bro. The way I see it, /jp/ is for the shit that's too weeaboo for /v/, shit that used be in /a/ but wasn't anime or manga, and yes, perhaps some language/Japanese culture threads. There's too much rage about what should and shouldn't be here, when just lurking the board for a bit should tell you some people find each of those things acceptable.

Polite sage for meta thread.

>>2188639
The start is hard, with enemies taking half of your HP with one hit.

It gets easier after you get a few levels though, but prepare to run back to the inn every five battles.

>>2188651
It is a game, such as backgammon or kick-the-can, played through modern video technology.

>>2188661
The difficulty sounds reasonable, thanks for the information.

>>2188661
Grindan?

>>2188659
Agreed. The report faggot particularly angers me when he gets threads deleted for being "offtopic." It's even worse because the part of the rules he quotes all the time is about "offtopic replies."

I wish that faggot got banned already.

>>2188655
>untranslated Japanese games, anything by ATLUS.

That's what YOU guys want to enforce.

This kind of stuff is /v/ material by default and should be posted in the correct board.

/jp/ has nothing to do with it.

>>2188667
I only had problems until level 3 or so, except for not being able to understand what the quests were about.

It's a fun game though.

Look, stop the semantics and bullshit.

/jp/ has always occasionally talked about things like Etrian Odyssey and 7th Dragon. They're commercial, but still applicable to us.

What about people that want to discuss JAPANESE games and doesn't visit the other boards?

>>2188671
>That's what YOU guys want to enforce.
Guess what, /jp/ is about what the population of the board feels like enforcing.

Does it say "Touhou and Visual Novels" up there? No, it doesn't. One would think this is a board about Japanese culture, right? Saying something is offtopic here is like complaining about spam in /b/.

If you don't like /jp/ - Pedo/Directionless, go post somewhere else.

>>2188594
Reported.

Back to /a/ with you.

>>2188671

They're Japanese - /jp/ - games - /v/. Holy shit, the boards have some degree of crossover, mind fucking blown.

>>2188671

These games cannot be discussed in /v/. All that happens are MS paint comics and trolling. Those games have always been discussed here. You're in the minority on this one.

Can everyone please stop paying attention to this one faggot who doesn't even know what a video game means? He won't go away until you start ignoring him, you know.

>>2188686
hur hur

reported

Back to /v/ with you.

>>2188684
>/jp/ is about what the population of the board feels like enforcing

hahahaha

no

Looks like the BOARD POLICE are out in full force today.

>>2188670
actually the report guy with the copypasta and reposted pic did get repeatedly deleted by the janitor on one day, at least. He might have even gotten banned, I don't recall seeing him since.

Just start a Touhou image dump thread instead.

>>2188703
Spoilers: It is, because moot made a board so vague that anything can go here.

I don't even care about this game, but why must you offtopic police be so fucking annoying? Why do you care about what we discuss in here? Just hide the thread if you don't like it.

>>2188693
>These games cannot be discussed in /v/. All that happens are MS paint comics and trolling.

Not my fucking problem. Try discussing this at Gamefaqs or another faggy video game board, not here.

>Those games have always been discussed here. You're in the minority on this one.

Yeah, right. Because 99% of /jp/ is playing this. Oh wait, they aren't. Same goes for the three idiots trying to make this shit /jp/ material.

>>2188703

Yes it is. There are no real rules in /jp/apart from "everything Japanese welcome". Obviously shit that isn't Japanese is off topic, but everything else is pretty much fair game.

>>2188718
>Not my fucking problem.
Why are you posting then?

Why does everyone fall for such an obvious troll for this long?

>/jp/ - Japan/General
>1. All things Japanese welcome!

>>2188638
/a/ is better than /jp/

Ignoring the "Durr /jp/ is about Japan troll," how easy it is to extract text from this ROM?

>>2188718

>>Those games have always been discussed here. You're in the minority on this one.

>Yeah, right. Because 99% of /jp/ is playing this. Oh wait, they aren't. Same goes for the three idiots trying to make this shit /jp/ material.

No, but you're the only one that appears to give a shit about whether it belongs here or not.

>>2188708

I called him out on being a newfriend for thinking mabinogi was unrelated, and revealed that he had only been here since last summer.

Reportfags are the cancer killing /jp/. Soon, they'll be reporting mahjong and go threads cause they're "off-topic".

>>2188708
Hmm... no harm in reporting this complain-fag here, then. With a little luck, we can get him banned, too.

/jp/ - video games, deal with it

Stop this shit.

So, the first quest:

ギルド始めました！

I have to talk to Harris in the Rorakku cave and Emeli at Portal Sesu in the south, then talk to Rita next to the Guild building.

I don't know in what order I did that yesterday, but I repeated it again today and see that the quest is still there at the Quest Office. How do I end the quest and get my パロメディス and 地図作成（スキル）?

I can only abort the quest at the quest office.

picture to draw your attention.

>>2188734
Yeah, let's ban the only person here that is actually worried about the overall quality of the board.

Now let me and my two dudes post /v/ stuff in /jp/ because WE like this games and fuck what /jp/ thinks, this is OUR board and we post whatever we want here.

Hey guys nice logic there.

>>2188736
Forgot your picture?

>>2188718
It doesn't matter.

Most people play it to fap at the little girls anyway.

>>2188747
Saber?

Stop this shit.

So, the first quest:

ギルド始めました！

I have to talk to Harris in the Rorakku cave and Emeli at Portal Sesu in the south, then talk to Rita next to the Guild building.

I don't know in what order I did that yesterday, but I repeated it again today and see that the quest is still there at the Quest Office. How do I end the quest and get my パロメディス and 地図作成（スキル）?

I can only abort the quest at the quest office.

picture to draw your attention.

>>2188746
browser acting up.

>>2188730

It looks to be pretty easy, not too much coding and the text is easy to recognize.

The one who hacks this for translation shouldn't have too much trouble.

>>2188745
This game is relevant to /jp/'s interest.

I guess you missed all the threads yesterday.

Romhacker here
Shit's hard. The kanji uses some fucked up formatting so I'd have to make a custom table, which I cant be arsed to do.
Oh and when I changed some of the text (not the kanji) it messed up and eventually crashed - I'd probably need to edit the font and then probably the pointers.
Way too much hassle

>>2188745

The quality of the board has markedly diminished once this place stopped being a mixed bag of topics and became the same discussions, every day. You're not saving anything.

>>2188745

>overall quality of the board

HURRR

Videogame stuff doesn't lower the quality of the board any more than anything else, faggot. Quality is subjective, and if people enjoy certain kinds of threads, that's fine. It would only be a problem if no one liked the threads.

>>2188745
>worried about the overall quality of the board.
Email moot. Complaining about the board on the boards is against the rules.

You're lowering the overall quality of the board by shitposting and making offtopic replies (which IS against the rules) in a perfectly fine thread.

/jp/ used to be a place where we could take it easy and discuss everything weeaboo, then we got an influx of report newfriends that enjoy enforcing non-existent rules like >>2188732 said.

>>2188758
>>2188762
???

>>2188757
Is that the 2 star quest?
If so, go to the second town (to the east), head towards the end and talk to the guy outside to the left

>>2188730
>>2188758
Everything but the kanji would be hard

"General" is in the board's title, so you can expect at least some degree of board overlap. That means... this topic would be fine on either /jp/ or /v/. Holy penis what a scoop.

>>2188763
>>2188765
>>2188768
Stop paying him attention.

He won't go away until you stop paying him attention. He wants to make the on-topic discussion impossible and you're just helping him. Report, hide, ignore. Capiche?

>>2188771
It's the first quest, with 1 star, but thanks (maybe) since I don't have any quest completed.

I'm sure I talked to everyone, but I'll look for that guy and see if I can complete at least that quest.

>>2188776
For example:
あら、いらっしゃい
ここは、ハントマンたちの
ためのギルドЙ・・
The 2 ・ 's at the end cant be extracted without a custom table

>>2188790
Oh that one, there's a tree thingy to the south. Talk to whoever's in there.

Meltan is a console game.
Therefore take that shit to /v/.

>>2188757
I don't know if this is the quest you are having problems with but the first one I finished was about talking to a girl in the red tree and then the guy in the cave.

>>2188792
Fuck yeah emo Princess. So are buffs/debuffs good in this game?

Link to the rom?

>>2188771
Ok, I talked to that guy called モテモテ騎. He says two sentences and nothing happens. No sound or quest whatever.
He says something with "来しまった!", doesn't sound to "quest fulfilled"-like.

And yes, I found the woman at the red tree and the guy in the cave and talked to both, and then talked to rita, but why is the quest still there in the quest office and why can I abort it?

>>2188811
Buy it.

>>2188811
Rom links:
http://uploaded.to/?id=0cgwcn
http://www.load.to/?d=5DPx4DpGN

My character just said Aya? and found 10G.

>>2188818
No idea then. I'm not familiar with the names, sorry.

>>2188791
Wait, so you meant only the kanji is hard to extract? As in, "everything but the kanji is easy?"

I don't really need a story or script translation, I just would really like to have the menus and items recognizable without having to constantly look it up.

>>2188831
http://www24.atwiki.jp/7thdragon/pages/38.html

That's the guy this page says I have to talk with to deliver that item...
but now I wonder where the guy who gave me the quest, 運び屋オヤジと話す, is. Supposedly in Kazan, so I'll go back and talk to everyone again.

I FUCKIN HATE WEEABOS PLAYING GAEMS THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND

>>2188848

Reported. God damn, will you go away already? It's a good game, I'm playing it despite how much I understand.

>>2188840
As in it uses a custom encoding for the kanji, no idea why.
For example:
あら is
82A0 82E7

A kanji symbol would be xxxx aswell, but for whatever reason its yyyy.

Now I've also found that guy again 運び屋オヤジ, but again nothing happens. I get the feeling that I have already completed all those quests and nobody tells the quest office that I did. Do other Anons quests disappear from the quest office first menu option?

There's only one quest left that is left that I might be able to do is

旅立つ者に祈りを

マスクナッツから木の実を３個集める。
Collect 3 mask nuts out of/from 木の実? Did I read that right?
I have enough of these 木の実 items, but how do I get the mask nuts out of them....?

>7th Dragon takes place in the world of Eden of which 80% is ruled by dragons, so the premise of the game is simple: Kill all the dragons, or the human race is going to be wiped out of existence.

Genocide again? I hope there are no loli dragons or I might feel bad about it. Like in Etrian Odyssey.

Also, I hope the EU release is "soon". I don't want to wait 2 years and importing is annoyingly expensive.

This really needs a translation!!

>>2188897
no, mask nut is the enemy and 木の実 is the item I need.
Fuck, again I should have already cleared that.
I don't understand this game.

Hoe does the quest list look like when you've cleared all quests? Is it empty again?

I got this guy in my team and named him NORIO WAKAMOTO.

Ok, quests work now.

Has anyone figured out how to use the
地図作成（スキル）cartography skill
高速旅法（スキル）high speed travel something skill
yet?
I'd think you can travel from portal to portal, but that doesn't work, and I can't use my stylus for the lower screen when it says "no map"

>>2188810
I have a princess, but early game it seems useless, with +3 damage and whatnot.

I'm using the stereotypical RPG party of Fighter, Rogue, Mage, Healer.

I'm not sure which row Rogues are supposed to go in, are they like the survivalists in EO?

>>2189015

They're like the opposite of Survivalists. Can work in both rows, but preferably the front.

>>2189015
I put all my characters in front. My healer makes more damage then my rogue, and the faster the enemies are killed, the less damage they deal.

>>2189008

they learn early healing spells too, mine is replacing a healer for the moment.

Started knight, healer, rogue, princess, then promptly quit after I found out how similar it is to EO. I still need to finish EO1 and start EO2 dammit.

>>2189035
Is that so? I guess we have different skill trees.

>>2189054

It's very similar, but they also have some differences beyond graphics. Battle mechanics are different, quests are handled differently, different threats posed by enemies, etc.

>>2189067

An actual story, an actual town beyond menus, and I've noticed less of a jump in EXP needed between levels than in EO, so early grinding isn't totally meaningless.

>>2189008

Princesses seem well rounded, from my experience. I tried a party of Knight + 3 Princesses and they did pretty well. They can heal, do decent damage from the back row, and inflict mass status ailments. I think some of their later skills lets you manipulate monsters into doing stuff like attacking themselves. Having a knight lets you benefit from some of their skills, namely you can use Princess Order on a monster then Save The Queen to automatically do 2x damage to it.

I also went to using a fighter, rogue, healer and mage, which I've come to prefer. Ice Veil rapes bosses.

Also the real game doesn't begin until you clear the forest.

>>2189001

I'm not entirely sure, but I think having the high-speed travel skill lets you hold a button to "run".

>>2189085
>I'm not entirely sure, but I think having the high-speed travel skill lets you hold a button to "run".
That's right.

I haven't encountered a single boss yet.
I'm looking for 占い師フォン in Miros to give me a quest. When will I be able to enter the red forest / ge past the guard?

>>2189067
I honestly only played far enough to assign some skillpoints and play a few battles but it looked similar enough for me to want to finish the ones I've started first. And who knows, with a bit of luck this might have an English release by the time I've mustered the courage to finish EO's endgame.

>>2189102

Should be after you clear the cave north from the river on the Miros' side of the bridge. You'll get another quest soon after when you go back to Miros and talk to the people in the castle, if I remember.

>>2189102
That person's in one of the houses, if I remember correctly. Also, once you finish all the quests in the first town, and the mission they give you there, go to the castle. You'll then have to go to Miros' castle, and then you can go into the forest filled with flowers.

>>2189118
There is something to "clear" in that cave? I only see two wooden sticks with which I can't interact. (and random enemy encounters)

>>2189166
You have to clear the three quests in the first town. Then, some people at the bottom of the town will talk about the cave, go back to the quest place and talk to the mission person on the right. There'll be a bear there once you do that.