/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>さんびゃく
>よんひゃく
?????

finally a new thread to shitpost in, i was almost considering starting to learn japanese for real out of boredom

>>21841541
考えるな。感じろ。

Are there any tips to get good at listening? I am so sick of being able to read novels but be unable to follow basic conversations. Someone recommended listening to the same thing over and over again, so I will probably try that, but is that really all there is?

>つつむ
>くるむ
okay so I understand the difference but do natives ever mess those up while reading? What if it's a situation when either can be use? Do you just pick your favourite?

>>21841796
くるむのほうが

だいじにしてるかんじがでるんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

わかんないけど

はあああ。。。眠いです

>>21841801
Thanks

>>21841812
no wonder she is sleepy, the vn can fucking kill you with boredom

>>21841775
anime cards and audio books

>>21841775
try jp radio broadcasts

djt, when was the last time someone was kind towards you

>くるめる

っていうのもたまにつかう

たまーに

I hate duolingo. I've been using it since February and I still can't understand Japanese for shit yet I can't let go of my 120 day streak

I hate anki. I've been using it since February and I still can't understand Japanese for shit yet I can't let go of my 120 day streak

>>21841881
don't limit yourself to it then. fucking retard

>>21841892
but it takes me 24 hours to review my 10000 daily reviews from core 10k

つつむ

くるむ

くるめるはれいぶんをあんきしよう

>ぎょうざをつつむ
>あかちゃんをくるむ
>てきとうでいいくるめる

くるめるはいうとくっつく

>>21841775
Subs2srs.
Do one anime season from a light novel you liked.
Turn it into a 10,000 card deck.
Set it to audio on the front and text on the back.
First review, suspend any card where you know what is being said.
If you don't know what's being said, but know what the sentence text means, press Easy.
If you don't know what the sentence text means (has a word you don't know), suspend it.
During later reviews, pass all cards but replay audio if you didn't understand without text.

When finished with one episode worth of cards, watch the episode to see how your listening improved.
Consider ripping the audio and playing on loop.

>>21841896
lol retard I do 10000 reviews in 12 hours

>>21841940
Great strategy. Much better than anime cards

>>21841940
now here is some of the worst advice you could possibly give lmao
sometimes I really hope it’s all ironic and people making these posts aren’t actually retarded

>>21841941
yeah but i'm low iq

>>21841881
Can you read at a comfortable level yet?

>>21841952
also i have 50 lapses for every failed card and my success rate is 0%. i also do my reps while watching jav, masturbating and playing 5 different vn's simultaneously

>>21841947
You fool! You'll summon QM!

>>21841950
Ah fuck. Too late.

>>21841955
read what

１２じかんもにほんごやるの

つづかなくない？

What are some of the best youtube channel in 日本語?

>>21841980
kizuna ai

>>21841988
Doesn't seem like I'll like it.

I just found this one, but people seem to talk really fast.
I can still understand but is this the speed normal japanese people talk at?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phn5jJL7x-A

>can understand youtubers
>can't understand anime
is my nihongo crippled forever?

>>21842013
make anime cards

how can i become quizzy's apprentice?

>>21841980
ラジオがききとりやすいよ

あと

らくごがすごい

>>21842044
show off your anime cards

>>21842060
sorry i haven't even learned the hiragana/katakana thing yet, can you make anime cards from light novels btw? serious question

>>21842066
you can‘t

>>21842086
okay, can u post the guide to making anime cards then? want to make a separate deck for them and see how it feels like

>>21842093
I‘m on my phone can’t be bothered
maybe someone else can or you just search for it

>>21842096
okay i will just ask later, it's not like im in a hurry to learn japanese

Sorry, but this seems to me the next best thing to put my request other than creating a thread.

I need Suzuki Koji's Rasen/Spiral (Ring series, Book 2), either fully ruby glossed Japanese text, OR the full audiobook (also in Japanese). Pirating only. Any idea where I could find either of those?

>>21842093
The guide to it is on the itazuraneko site, at the end of the anki guide.

>>21842185
oh nice thanks, i will look it up then

Explain this.

>>21842201
It's an idiomatic translation.

>>21842201
don't think, feel

>>21842201
sugoi ame literally means great rain surely you can figure this out lad

>>21842204
>>21842208
I mean, why is it written with kanji. Afaik sugoi is almost always written with kana and when someone uses kanji it's specifically to introduce the original negative connotation.

>>21841374
thanks

>>21842201
>土砂降りになった
>It began raining cats and dogs.

これは

にほんごのほうがおかしい

>>21842244
for what?

>>21842249
cute girls always need to be thanked

What does this "only used in written Japanese" shit even mean? Will people look at you like you're fucking crazy if you actually voice these words?

>>21841775
know all the words or at least most of them

>>21842237
>it's specifically to introduce the original negative connotation.
You think a shitload of rain is a good thing?

>>21841940
This is possibly the worst advice I've ever seen.

Watch a show without subs. When you encounter something you don't understand, check the subs for that line, or pause and try and work it out in your head.

does anybody here have any clue about mpv player and scripts ?

i have a fantastic idea about a script but no idea if this is even possible.

i want a function that loads the current subs per click into ichi.moe while pausing the video

>>21842367
why would you want something so dumb
just use video.fluentcards to watch shit and look up whatever you need with yomichan

>reading something a lot more difficult than i'm used to
>focus really hard
>get a nosebleed
b-bros...
go on without me...

>>21842394
>video.fluentcards
Error loading “[HorribleSubs] Dr, Stone - 02 [720p]”. Try a different file.

>>21842410
RIP anon

Mischief Gaming
1 year ago
So in your opinion you would say keep reading hiragona katakona and kanji to learn words in japanese? I recent wanted to become trilinqual sorry if i slept that wrong. I wanna learn spanish and japanese so i dan become a translater. I learned hiragona and katakona in about like 14 days i am just about to start kanji in like a week or so i still wanna read a bit more kata and hira so i can get faster of it but aince there are so many kanji i am kind of overwelmed with what i was thinking on japanese. It has always been a dream since i started watching anime to learn japanese to be able to lission without subtitles haha. Dumb reason i know but it was my first reason. Not that i am 22 and havent gone to college i really wanna do something more. So that is how i thought of the idea for becoming a translater. Also to visit japan. Sorry for the extremely long comment. My question is do you know of any good ways to learn kanji cause i really enjoy readin hira and kata and would love to read it and learn that way cause i can learn the words through anime cause i can kind of pick out words already. I just need to get use to the order the words are in. Sorry for the very long comment awesome videos love them

>>21842410
is that true? how long are you getting those nose bleeds?
because it's actually a normal thing and it's easy to fix

>>21842475
thx no problem, do RTK

heres one of my anime cards, im too lazy to turn off the subs when taking the screenshot

my retention rate is ~10% better but i only have like 70 cards in this deck so far so it's not indicative of anything tbqh

>>21841858
my therapist is pretty kind to me

>>21841858
my dad when he drove me to ikea to buy a desk yesterday

>>21842518
now that's shitty card design

>>21842667
i used ur template and just moved the sentence and screenshot above the glossary. more comfy like this. the sentence in the screenshot looks retarded but what can u do

Remember to follow the guide!

>This is an mpv plugin, which stream your subs to your webbrowser. This way you can look up shit while watching Japanese subbed stuff.
https://github.com/kaervin/subserv-mpv-plugin

can anybody explain what it means to:
>to compile and install it basically run:

gcc -o ~/.config/mpv/scripts/subserv.so subserv.c -I . -shared -fPIC


iam no programmerfag

Daily reminder that if you only consume media with cute girls, you'll end up talking Japanese like a cute girl.
You wouldn't want that, right?

>>21841980
PDRさん

>>21842762
And what if i consumed BL with cute guys?

>>21841980
きまぐれクック

>>21841940
that you nuke?

>>21842741
install gentoo

>>21842475
Why do people who don't even know their first language try learning another?

remember not to take advice from people who have no results to show, no matter how "logical" it sounds

>not becoming a programmer before learning japanese
lol you guys really ain't gonna make it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCxBtxcd-7w

For me, it's The Meme Cat, the best learning resource available.

>>21842433
save this as a bat and run it in the folder with dr stone. it'll convert all the videos from h265 to h264 which will make it compatible with video.fluentcards. it'll put the converted files into your C: directory but you can change it to any directory.
https://pastebin.com/REVjiiQq
alternatively there might be an audio issue and you can convert it to a supported format like aac. i'm probably using the wrong terms but whatever, you get the gist.

also if the script doesn't work it's because you probably have to download ffmpeg and add it to your PATH or some crazy shit i don't remember but you can google it and easily set that up.

>>21842518
>興す

グリフィスのやってるのが

おこすっぽい

とにかくでかい

to promote new nation/world みたいな

>>21842865
forgot to mention that you can delete the "-map 0:v:0 -map 0:a:1 -map 0:s:1" portion as those values are just for selecting which video, audio, or subtitle stream you want to copy over if you download a dual-audio release or something like that.

>>21842681
you didn't use the handlebars in his template to strip the dots/list from the definition?

>>21842518
do you really need to srs 興す when it's basically 起こす that i'm sure you already know

People often ask "Isn't Japanese hard?" Not really, there are many languages that would be harder for me to learn. Like French. Because I have no interest in learning French. And because I have no interest in learning it, a difference in difficulty level doesn't matter to me.

>>21842884
i did, i had no idea what it was supposed to do so i wasnt aware it wasnt doing it

>>21842889
You could literally become fluent in French in two months, you'd be most of the way there after doing Duolingo which is enjoyable in and of itself.

>>21842905
>You could literally become fluent in French in two months

>>21842518
i think ur card front is broken
in the sentence ur kanji are mincho and ur kana are gothic how do u live with urself
>>21842741
thats for linux
>>21842849
so they can become translators ? stupid question
>>21842854
agree
>>21842884
why is the default handlebars so shit
imagine having any tag but linebreaks in ur fields lmfao
>>21842905
keep the shitpost short and sweet dont double down

>>21842937
>in the sentence ur kanji are mincho and ur kana are gothic how do u live with urself
i dont notice shit unimportant shit like this

>>21842960
should i be jealous or pity u

>>21842997
thats for u to decide but i prefer my existence where i dont give a shit about stuff that has no bearing on anything really

reading cards are fun i made fun of them for not having the meaning on the back but it's actually cool and fun especially if you grade yourself on pitch accent

>>21842270
means people will cringe if you say it in a conversation

*fills up cup with soda and reads some more*

morning reader club. before the shitposters and namefags wake up. this is prime djt

give me a good manga to read please, I'm reading a 4-koma right now and it's really shit.

dead general

>>21843235
first half of death note

>>21843229
wanna talk about female orgasm?

>>21842270
It's like imagine if you said "yours sincerely" when you were saying goodbye to someone.

>>21842850
Remember not to take advice from lowercase shitposters.

>>21843186
based
>>21843229
i shitpost at all hours but i agree with u
once the thread is lively the eroge goes on the shelf cuz we got important shit to talk about
>>21843263
unless u want to make it

>>21843257
that's like talking about ghosts or white privilege no thanks

>幽霊
that sounds interesting, what's up with the triangle thing that the have on their heads

>>21843266
>once the thread is lively the eroge goes on the shelf cuz we got important shit to talk about
Made me laugh

It seems /wsr/ is a ghost town, would anyone here mind helping me with this page? It's a one page joke so there is no more context than this page. Seems to be about the girl's shit social skills with the other new girl, but that combined with the fictional show they talk about make everything so confusing. Panel 3 to 5 are really causing me troubles.

https://pastebin.com/WFHW8y2J

>>21843263
reddit types in uppercase just saying

I'm starting to read GTO now, I hope it's really that good.

>>21842905
this is true, it takes 500 hours to reach B2 and 700 to reach C1 and probably even less if youre high IQ, easily doable in two months

>>21843360
alright I don't understand anything. wtf is he saying?

how do you become so proficient in such a short time? is it due to vocabulary overlap between french and english?

>>21843532
yea and i'm guessing sentence structure and shit is pretty similar

>>21843329
What exactly don't you understand? She's sperging out about a banal conversation.

>>21843400
>8-11 hours per day
>easily doable
*drops pants and uses ur mouth as a porta potty for my liquid diarrhea*

>>21843541
considering that 8-11 hours is just reading and watching films all day, yes

>>21843546
*smacks u in the fucking face with a rock-filled sock*

>>21843532
Vocabulary overlap, same writing system, English borrows French phonics, similar grammar. French is pretty much as close to a "free" language as you can get as an English speaker, alongside Dutch, Frisian, and Spanish.

>>21843541
>>21843550
i wouldn't be able to do it because french is shit and boring but it'd be easier than even 6 hours of daily japanese if someone had the motivation because you'll be making a lot more progress in french.

word of the day: 拡張子 (かくちょうし)

>>21843553
German is much easier than spanish because of the same phonetics. But in general most european languages are easier between each other

im intermediate in italian but there is no content im interested in so i've just been stuck at this level for years now. i also want to learn spanish but it feels retarded to move onto that when i havent even reached fluency in italian.

>>21843540
Well what exactly is meant 狙ってるねありや here which she considers a dull comeback when they weren't even arguing which then ends up in this whole thing
>まともな人生歩んでる吉川さんを私の幼稚でしょうもなくてうすっぺらくて貧困な話につき合わせたりなんかして身の程をわきまえなよ私

>>21843563
i feel like french does have enough good shit to take us to a high level
the old movies
franco-belgian comics
african youtube (i don't know anything about this one)

>>21843589
Except German is ranked in a higher classification of difficulty than Spanish, quit talking out your ass

>>21843429
>>21843429
hes saying if you can make friends with a rich TV celeb then you can use up all his money going to hostess clubs in roppongi and ginza on the daily and nightly

german is very easy to read and pronounce but thats where it ends. the grammar is ass cheeks, especially all the cases. made me empathize with foreigners trying to learn my native language that has 7 cases lol

>>21843594
"Maybe they were aiming for that?"

The pointless comeback she's talking about is her own. This isn't a hard page to understand, she's just a sperg.

are german grammatical cases super hard even if you've gotten a ton of input and acquired the language?

with enough input you don't need to ever look at grammar.
the guy who learned arabic in 1 year never looked at grammar either.

>>21843647
does that mean people bitching about cases are low IQ and studied grammar and didn't acquire it

>>21843611
Anon this is not a very good graph and god knows what source it's from

>>21843650
a lot of different cases does mean it takes longer to acquire the grammar though.

>he used his personal cell phone for this
>didn't pay for any privacy protection

>>21843666
obsessed

>>21843666
did u call him

matts immersion approach

>>21843653
You can find dozens of graphs with the same or similar data from several sources

wow it takes 2 more months to learn german than spanish big deal

>>21843666
what do you use if not a personal cell

>>21843666
not everyone expects some autist to hunt them down

>>21843666
ajatt2 lmao

Vncore or core 2k/6k?

>>21843666
why did he blow over a hundred bucks on useless domains in one day

>>21843788
i don't get why this is a question. why not do vncore and then sift through core2k if you want more words, and then sift through core6k if you want more? it's really easy.

>>21843788
Follow the guide >>21842730

>>21843799
how about mining words instead of learning useless words?

>>21843788
they both have issues but i think you'll waste less time with vncore as long as you eventually delete the deck and stop repping it (because it has errors that you don't want to repeat too much)

>>21843810
mining words as a beginner is fucking stupid because you don't read enough to get a good idea of what you should prioritize. premade decks are fine.

>>21843799
imagine finishing vncore and thinking to urself no im not gonna read yet im gonna look for more cool words to prepare myself with
>>21843817
have u seen it 5 times ? and not just in 1 chapter of a manga ? u should prioritize it
use ur fuckin head

>>21843830
i agree on doing vncore and then mining afterwards. it's just dumb to ask if you should do vncore or core2k.

someone post the core picture with the flaming 適当 and the vncore どきどき

>tfw eng hard subs
>tfw no other good torrents
Guess I won't watch School Rumble then

is it true that 適当 is most frequently used in a "do it lazily/sloppily/however" sort of way?

All right, due to complaints about the VN Core 1250, here is the EZ Core 600!
First 600 words of Wareya's VN frequency list. Includes single definition and audio sample from Jisho.
https://i.fiery.me/JWuA.apkg
Lemme know of any issues you find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX9krl5KPpg

tons of blogs and vlogs with ajatters and missing in actioners demonstrating their japanese progress whereas DJT has no one but quiz and makopi.

face it. DJT's advice must kinda suck on average. even quiz thinks DJT is worse than MIA.

if you make it core 100 ill look through it for errors but 600 is too much

>>21843856
here's a (you) since everyone has been ignoring ur efforts

>>21843862
It's all automatically generated so there's no way a dumb mistake like どきどき could make it through. But if you're willing to check over the first 100 cards I'd very much appreciate it, as they are the most important cards

>>21841881
are you doing like 5 cards a day

>tfw no cute gfs to drink coffee with
wtf bros how am i supposed to learn nihongo living like this

無理 doesn't mean impossible and the word of the day is 村八分

Anon, i think i'm ready. I learned hiragana and katakana, skimmed through tae kim. I'm gonna do it. And no one can't stop me. Goodbye.

don't listen to that anon this is the true word of the day: 独身主義

>>21843872
don't really see the point in making sure only a small fraction of it is correct

>>21843877
30

>>21843949
Maybe someone else will check out the next 100

So that 現代国語辞典 epwing that anon pointed out a little bit ago is the dictionary that 現代新国語辞典 comes from. Damn, it may be old now but I didn't think I'd get a digital copy of that dictionary. I definitely recommend it.

Now if only I could stumble across a digital copy of 旺文社　詳解国語辞典.

>>21843666
how much does it cost to register all these

>>21843970
yeah dude i wish i knew about it when i started using japanese dictionaries.

problem i see with epwings though are that all the dictionaries for it are old. like really old. i think one of the newest ones is 広辞苑　第六晩 and that's still more than a decade old

would be cool if we could get new ones but i think you're better off buying a phone app or something these days

第六晩 lol fucking google ime

>>21843666
devil digits but why the fuck didn't he register ass immersion approach epic fail if you ask me

wtf am i watching

The more I learn this language the more I realize I didn't pay attention in school. I have no idea how to explain the usage of my first language. Relative clause? Predicate? No idea what this means, but I know "of" it.

>>21844024
His dads already had it

>>21844034
water is wet

yoooooooo

>>21844030
based

忘れないでください !

Ok now this is epic

https://youtu.be/LN-x3IRjYZc
Nice...

why are japanese always so genki?

>>21844118
you think that's crazy? look at how westerners are reinventing kanji.

>>21844136
>people unironically use this stupid shit

>>21844008
Yeah phones get all the best toys. Though I did find that someone made an mdict copy of daijirin 3 which works with epwing viewers. And If I could just figure out how to download from baidu I could test to see if the logovista converted to epwing dictionaries that I found are legit.

Fuck. I need to setup some timer or something to remind me to take a break once in a while
I ended up reading for 3 hours straight. My eyesight will get eve worse if I keep doing this

>>21844175
i hope you figure it out. it's annoying searching for a word in qolibri and not finding it only to google it and find it's in the 3rd edition of daijrin on weblio.
also 4th edition of daijirin is coming out soon too which is adding like over ten thousand new words so i don't know if the epwing boys will be able to keep up

>>21844187
reading affecting eyesight is a myth

>>21844202
>reading affecting eyesight is a myth
Except I personally experienced worsening eyesight as a result of sitting behind my computer all day long
I didn't need glasses before university. My parents don't wear glasses either
My doc also thinks there are some relations

>>21843799
>>21843802
>>21843815
Thanks guys, I'll do vncore for now

remember it's 間、髪を入れず

watch School Rumble, it's good

>>21843856
i checked the first 100 without listening to audio
wrong meaning どう whoa (command used to stop a horse, etc.)
shows up 2+ times with same or different reading 御 様 そう 君 方 度
no note about other reading 未だ 入る

useless to study
all kosoado just google it
そう もう どう まあ
さん ちゃん
一寸 御前 侭 矢張り
つ さ

the tips are usually useless or irrelevant but special mention for
１ can also be read ワン

>useless to study just google it
you can say that for everything high frequency though

>>21844313
more useless than the others
if youre downloading a premade deck when you know zero words youre probably not reading anyway lol so the high frequency words are easy argument isnt relevant

>>21844300
lol this deck sounds awful. 侭 and 矢張り in kanji? wtf

like i said if he made it core 100 it would be easier to go through it and perfect it for beginners but he wants to obsess about the 600 number for some reason which is too much work to do for free

this is the problem with noobs making decks lol, nuke has crippled many young learners and now these guys think they can solve the problem with a script

>>21844346

I never claimed it was perfect, but thanks everyone for checking and feedback. I'll keep improving the script and making it more robust.

weve already been over how bad vncore is

>>21844346
i mean if youre gonna put it in anki you might as well do it to learn the kanji rofl cuz you sure as fuck shouldnt be usin anki for the meaning

>>21844372
still pointless to make noobs learn the kanji when you're literally never going to see it written like that

>>21844367
yeah loling at "It's all automatically generated so there's no way a dumb mistake like どきどき could make it through."

>>21844383
the point of beginner decks is to get a basic foundation of words so you can read. the entire point is to have the most common words/some basic understanding of them

>>21844238
You realize eyesight deteriorates gradually, and if all you do is use the computer, then of course that's what you'll THINK causes it

i want a jamal deck™

>>21844389
hey you only found a single word that had the "wrong" definition (technically it was a correct definition, just not the most common one) and there were no spelling mistakes. I'd say it's on track for greatness

>>21844401
Yeah. When you are over 50
Not when you are 20 something

>>21844405
i didn't find anything cuz i didn't look through it. and the guy who did look through it only went through the first 100 which is just scratching the surface of what's in there

>>21844397
if you need an entire sentence to try to describe something the beginner is better off looking it up when they are confused by it in a sentence
thats a good example of something that often obvious in context anyway which in addition to being very common and always in kana makes it perfect to leave out

>>21844421
Yeah but since the whole thing is scripted, fixing the code to address the issues he brought up will also fix the same issues in the other 500 cards if they show up there

muh deck

a good beginner deck should only be the most common words that won't be written in kana so they can just read some easy manga and be able to look everything up. manga is the easiest way to learn to read as a beginner after all. after the 100k hours anime of course

>>21844238
my eyesight hasnt changed in a decade
biggest drop was before i had a computer and there was very slight deterioration in my teen years
you could try to make some weak correlation that my eyesight stopped taking a hit when i switched from crt to lcd but the more likely explanation is that i got a bad roll on eyes and it took a while to kick in

easy manga has full furigana so by that logic there is no need for a beginner deck

>>21844403
frontside
私
backside
ゲイ
{{audio}
[shittyNiprapmusictitle].mp3

>>21844471
you're right there's no need to use anki at all except for the rarest words that you won't see just by reading

>>21844473
rude but i like it

there is no shortage of beginners who refuse to start reading until they complete a deck and thats where good beginner decks come in by being short and tricking the beginner into fucking reading already
core 69 when

>24000 characters read
It's not much but it's my personal best so far.
I'm glad I've come this far. And it's all thanks to you faggots.

>>21844508
what are you reading

maybe ill edit that guys core 600 down to 100 useful words and see if it catches on. dont like the idea of competing but people already do it with core and vncore anyways and he might just spend forever tweaking his algorithms or whatever and never finish the deck anyways

There should be a coreよつばと! deck, since most djters end up reading that as their first manga.

So do I have to create 90k cards before not having to rely on a dictionary?

>>21844560
if you need to, you might as well give up now anon

>>21844510
Can't bother taking a picture but imouto paradise

>>21844560
You've got it the other way around. The anime freq number tells how many times it's popped up in anime, not what its position would be on a list numbered from highest to lowest.

>>21844583
lower means more frequent

>>21844346
you see yahari in kanji all the time dumb beginner
lol at the idea of automatic deck creation being good tho

>>21844603
ive read millions of characters of japanese and i dont think ive ever seen 矢張り in kanji. stop exaggerating because you've seen it once in some random thing

>reading
Can't I just watch Japanese shows with Japanese subtitles

>tumblr_inline_mmllk9g2Br1(...).jpg
kys and don't come back

>reading
Can't I just watch Japanese shows with Japanese subtitles

>>21844641
thats reading

>>21844619
i see it every other day, clearly you're full of shit and don't actually read very much

>>21844583
no it doesn't you idiot

YES guys I got the joke, you see he said 皿 instead of 更 haha I feel so 上手

>>21844656
o ur just trolling carry on then

>>21843850
yes

what is a j-test counterpart for english learner?

I mean, if i'm going to showoff my "ESL proficiency" to somebody, where can I get a comprehensive enough free and quick online test?

>>21844656
stop reading gayjin tweets

>>21844651
I hate Netflix and my subscription I'm not gonna renew is about to end, where else can I get Japanese shows with Japanese subtitles

can you keep up with me

>>21844619
>ive read millions of characters of japanese
What a pathetic post. Millions of characters is like 2 VNs or a single novel series. Practically nothing. It's not an exaggeration to say you'll need to read about a billion characters in Japanese to approach native level. Even if you just browse twitter you'll see Japanese people using it sometimes because it's just not a big deal. It's not the most common way to write the word, but it's not that uncommon either in that literally any Japanese person will be familiar with it and see it on at least a semi-regular basis.
https://twitter.com/jjyukihito0126/status/1159697853700120576

lmao he paid for netflix

>>21844690
wheres your name qm

>>21843666
what service is that?

can u stop arguing about how common or uncommon it is when u all agree it shouldnt be one of a beginners first 600 flash cards lmfao

>>21844689
Filtered

>>21844702
It's not quiz,
this guy has a feel for vns

qm starts all of his posts with "I mean"

>>21844690
twitter is probably the only place you'll regularly see people use random kanji for shit cuz they just press enter and take what their IME gives them. so it's a terrible example. if you read manga or VNs you'll almost never see it. a quick search of the vn script database says it appears 8 times in 3 different vns. 'not uncommon' lol

>>21844680
kitsunekko and the itazura library subs page is most of what exists

>>21844733
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you

>>21844729
やはり似てる
i hit space and then enter and nothing happened
where do i get a more aggressive ime

yeah ok i was going through the flashcards and it just 改めて made me realize how stupid it is for really common words so good luck beginners i guess just stick with core and delete it after you hit 100 to start mining stuff on your own also lol @ beginners memorizing kanji for 為る and 斯う 此方 etc

>>21844752
its a core600 classical japanese deck

>>21844729
Too bad you said
>ive read millions of characters of japanese
and not
>ive read millions of characters of japanese exclusively in a subset of media and never in real life, to such a narrow degree that despite it being used in this subset of media I still haven't seen it

To be more direct, the point is that you fucking suck at Japanese and each post you make just serves to reveal more of your ignorance. Beginners should sit down and stay quiet.

Is there are reason this one autist here doesn't use the reply function? Is he 12? Will it break his pride or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3u5h9cPTBw&t=1m18s

>>21844575
is it good?

>>21844758
he does it to withhold the main currency of djt ((you)s). also to piss of losers like urself

>>21844755
care to quiz noob? i would shit on you

yoshi

>>21844736
i dont use subs but ive seen a few claims that kitsunekko is full of subs typed up by chinese people and the quality varies but at least theres some for new shows
also some of it is timed for rips that include commercial breaks
the xavier retimed shit fixes that
obviously netflix ripped subs are professional
thats all i have to pass on

>>21844764
That last one is an uphill battle for him as I'm past the age of 20, and with that first answer I'm guessing I was spot on with the pride assumption

>>21844776
are u this guy >>21839399

>>21844755
like are you an emaciated ugly nerd irl why do you guys flex so hard over pointless shit

there are probably half a dozen regulars who occasionally dont reply
consider it a way to show that youre a member of the inner circle
and cause some people get more angry than you

upper case posters are the fucking worst

>>21844785
No I'm this guy >>21844758

>>21844791
not always true

>>21844804
its a good rule of thumb

>>21844677
i don't tho
>>21844711
it should be in kanji desu it's one of those things you want to know in kanji because it's perfectly normal to write it as such
>>21844729
that's a lot as far as I'm concerned
>>21844755
i agree with you but you're being very aggressive you're not gonna win anyone over or humiliate anyone like that

>>21844760
Yeah it's good. as long as you enjoy wincest

>>21844824
>that's a lot as far as I'm concerned
24 characters out of roughly 90 million characters is a lot? well everyone's entitled to their opinion even if it doesnt make any sense

i mean 矢 and 張る are common so it shouldn't take a genius to read 矢張り in context when they do come across it after reading やはり in kana who knows how many times already

>>21844824
do u really think learning the the kanji of yahari is more important than memorizing 600 more useful words
or do u actually think that a beginner needs to drill the meaning of yahari too
i was gonna give u the point that it should be in kanji if its in ur deck at all but its fuckin 矢張り the only person who could fuck that up by the time they know enough nihongo to see it twice is someone who cant read 広義
u might as well be qm minin every fuckin word he sees inflating his stats cuz he thinks the audio clips he doesnt listen to are so fun to collect

>>21844850
it's just pointless as a beginner doing coreVN (presumably because you want to read VNs) to waste brainpower memorising shit that you will never see unless you choose to read one of 3 VNs in which it's used a couple of times. the idea that it's common enough to warrant being included in coreVN is laughable. maybe coreTwitter would need it idk cause i dont read peoples tweets

Can someone tell me an alternative to Rikaisama? it has to support EPWING dictionaries otherwise its useless for me.

I've tried using Rikairebuilt but I can't make my EPWING dictionary work on it

>>21844850
I know what やはり means, but I can't of any connection between 矢 and 張り that would turn them into やはり, other than possibly being ateji.

>>21844866
well because 矢 is read や and 張る is read はる when you see the word if you have been reading japanese for some time you should automatically read it as やはり. it is ateji

>>21844855
you're a beginner, please stop arguing about what people should or shouldn't learn
the extra mental load is basically zero, if not literally zero
the only time kanji should be avoided is when it's actually really pretty much never used, not just when it's a lot less common
>>21844851
if you're gonna memorize something that people sometimes write in kanji and it doesn't change the meaning then there's nothing wrong with learning it in kanji
it's like 居る but with even less reason to force yourself to not learn the kanji (since the difference in commonness with 居るis much more vast at least as a ratio)

what is the best way to watch animu for max learning gains?

>>21844860
yomichan or nazeka

>>21844911
>you're a beginner, please stop arguing about what people should or shouldn't learn
you're the biggest bullshitter in this thread dude. you love to talk shit about other people but are secretly garbage at japanese and you know it. whats ur jcat score again lmao

>>21844917
with subtitles. look up words you don't know, but not all of them. only the ones necessary for comprehension. By looking up, I mean hovering over them and quickly glancing at the yomichan entry. Only mine them if they pop up multiple times or have a general high frequency.
That's how I do it and it's working pretty good.

>>21844917
in relax mode so you can watch as much as possible
quantity > quality

>>21844917
qm style. Load the video and JP-subs files onto the fluentcards website, look up any unknown words with yomichan, make a card for them if you want to remember them.

>>21844911
>if you're gonna memorize something
im sayin u shouldnt memorize it at all lol

>>21844911
>it's like 居る but with even less reason to force yourself to not learn the kanji (since the difference in commonness with 居るis much more vast at least as a ratio)
are you saying that 居る in kanji is less common than 矢張り in kanji?

>>21844920
like 370

>>21844939
no, that's not how ratios work
i am also btw talking about professionally published novels and social media not VNs or web novels

>>21844941
lol

>>21844942
>professionally published novels and social media
this is a strange thing for someone to write

>>21844918
Thanks, making yomichan work was a pain in the ass but its working now.

>>21844949
because he knows he has no basis for what he's saying and is just trying to make it sound like he has any idea what he's talking about, as usual

>>21844949
I'm pretty sure that social media and novels are the main places people use writing
you're using social media right now for example
what's the problem?

>>21844953
what do you think the difference is between VNs and web novels and 'social media and published novels'?

>>21844956
how much time normal people spend on them

>>21844960
this is the classic argument of someone who knows he's wrong "uh.. it's not normal!". if you want to be really normal then normal people don't use random kanji for shit that doesn't need it cause it's seen as being pretentious.

btw I just checked against a folder of ebooks I have
700 hits for 矢張り, 60000 for やはり, that's a ratio of around 1:100
7000 hits for 居る, 1800000 for いる, that's a ratio of around 1:250
next argument please

>>21844960
i think youre overestimating how many novels the normal people on social media read

>>21844966
there is nothing pretentious about 矢張り lol if there was then chuunige would go out of their way to use it and they don't

700 uses across presumably hundreds of ebooks sounds very common to me. maybe those beginners are reading 1 book a day and will need it soon

>>21844983
do you have any actual arguments or are you just bitter about your position in the conversation lol

Holy shit you've been talking about this for an hour now. get over it nerds

Why do you waste so much time arguing about wether or not others are learning 'wrong'?
Just learn however the way you think is right and shut up

>>21844991
my argument is that it's not common and is clearly right tho? i just checked my own ebook collection (500 modern/ln/classics from the CoR) and 矢張り only shows up in 9 of the books, 6 of them in the "classics" section (ie, old books). you could read 470 japanese novels and never once see it... hmmm......

>>21845002
cuz being right is my only skill
imagine making a card for yahari lmfao

>>21844971
Did you check against all conjugations of いる and 居る?
Also did you count やっぱり?
It not, then tour stats or not valid

id rather see spergs argue about retarded shit like how often yahari is written in kanji than see people talking about whether girls can orgasm or not

well there's nothing to debate there since they can't. but i'd prefer we keep things on topic

>>21845018
yahari ratio goes to 1:125 and iru ratio stays the same, whoopdeydoo

>>21845007
imagine thinking 500 novels is a lot, i have like 1200 just in my personal library

imagine making a card for [card you have in your anki deck]

name one person in DJT who's scored higher than matt on the j-cat.

>>21845034
when did i say its a lot or not? we're talking about the commonality of 矢張り in kanji form, keep up. if you can read 450 novels and not once see it then there's no basis by which you can say it's common lol

imagine making a card for 嗚呼

>>21845039
the guy arguing beginners should learn 矢張り says he did

>>21845044
he's lying because he knows he doesn't have the highest score in here. he posted it before and it was like 320

btw matt would tell you to add yahari with the kanji to your anki deck fyi

lmfao imagine someone sees 矢 for their first time and goes holy shit i think i know this because i know 矢張り
lmFAO

>>21845059
lol only good post about this subject

wouldn't have that problem if you did rtk first

>>21845061
rtk doesnt teach u readings checkmate

now imagining someone doing rtk and thinking yahari means a pulled arrow

>>21845050
I've never actually posted a screenshot of my jcat score anywhere though. I'm not whoever you think I am
matt's score should be higher than mine btw it's probably just a fluke

>>21845019
god i fucking hate this mc

>>21845039
damn natto taking shawts at nuke-dono

>when u ate beans and sniff your basketball shorts after you've been farting in them all day
i literally physically staggered a bit

with all the core600 and nearly 600 guides djt is all about handholding so i filled a gap in the guide market

guide to reading and listening

reading practice
manga (free you)
hentai doujins
light novels
narou
unvoiced vns and ero ge
novels
news (text)
the dictionary lmfao
the internet (twitter google wiki futaba etc)

reading practice with built in protection against permanent crippling
the nuke marine approach (light novels + audio books)
the other nuke marine approach (dorama + transcript in browser)
japanese subtitled anime
partially or fully voiced vns and ero ge
boiro shit
bangers with lyrics

listening practice
doujin voice
english subtitled anime if you know enough japanese to not stare at the bottom of the screen
raw anime
jikkyou (not boiro)
other youtube shit
rajio
terebi
bangers without lyrics

>>21845114
>bangers without lyrics
I can understand the lyrics to many of the rap songs Jamal posts, but I can't understand the lyrics to most J-pop music, probably because my mind tunes out while getting distracted by the pretty/catchy-sounding melodies.

do passive listening

does anyone have the core tango deck that mia people use? i wanna turn it into a pitch accent recognition deck

i've got something better for you a pecker recognition deck *whips out pecker*

>>21845154
I have it but I'm not gonna share it for such a ゲイ purpose

no pecker to be recognized here

>>21845154
It's in the Resources section in the Library.
If I were you, I'd make anki cards out of Lucky Star or some other easy SOL anime, instead of doing that Tango shit.

when matto said im elvis i think he was too young to know who that was

>>21845034
Imagine having such a microscopic dick that you're (You)

>>21845178
his gay dads probably introduced him to a lot of handsome men when he was young

i'm back and ready to masturbate

>>21845061
uhhh this word is arrow paste and some unreadable ancient hieroglyph
t. rtk

>>21845172
thanks for the tip. unfortunately that deck doesn't have the solo audio for the word like nukemarine's (lol) deck. might just make it with core2k after all

>>21845191
oh actually it does have the single word audio in there it's just a clusterfuck

>>21845124
its a separate skill and some songs are way more difficult than others
a lot of people are terrible at hearing even the easiest stuff in their native language because they always tuned it out
level of interest is a factor
and of course being shit at japanese doesnt help for most of us lol

>tfw you don't study or practice for a day
>tfw your head feels physically lighter as you feel the knowledge leaving you

word of the day 帰省ラッシュ

>>21845201
Weird thing I noticed is that if you stop learning one thing you could be causing a domino of other memory losses associated to it. It's like taking down the bridge to the city and losing swaths of knowledge.. that's why ajatt is so effective really, it cuts down on that

Man fucking Wareya's frequency is kinda garbage now that I'm having to look at it more closely for Core 600. He's got the fucking word つく in there with no alternative spellings, 父 is supposed to be とう, he mis-spelled チュウ as ちゅっ, etc ....
But anyway, fixed most of the issues people had with the deck.

Questions for you anons though, if there's a word like 方 would you want every pronunciation and definition on a single card or just have them separate so people can learn the possibilities of what 方 is gradually (seems more like natural language acquisition)

>>21845252
uhh i think it's best to have clarifiers on the front so you can test yourself on one thing like 方（×ほう）->かた and 方（×かた）->ほう but yeah idk i dont like having vague cards and would rather not have that sort of stuff in the srs cuz context gives you the answer 100% of the time or it doesn't matter

>>21845252
making a deck using a script was never going to be a good idea.

we should ask calvin for his deck. seems to be the best beginner one ive seen judging from his sentences

>>21845252
>方
core6k had the readings on separate cards, and i always guessed the wrong one.
so once I knew all the readings, i just thought that it's any of them.

this show fuckin sucks but i dont know why

>>21845252
i can't tell if people are serious when they nitpick this meaningless shit or what, because if you do vncore and then you read a lot then that stuff isn't going to hinder you. same for any gripe someone has with tae kim. the small shit doesn't matter in the long run.

why are there so many fucking isekai anime recently? is it the big thing in japan?

>>21845295

>>21845295
renges va is omega aids

>>21845320
Isekai stories have been a thing for a long time.
See Wizard of Oz, Chronicles of Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, etc.

>>21845332
superhero stories have been a thing for a long time too but that doesn't mean there isn't a massive boom in the west right now so whats ur point here

>>21845332
man im going to sleep fuck retards in this thread

>>21845320
anime is irrelevant in japan except sazae san
isekai is currently a good vehicle to pander to otaku retards who will buy hundreds of dollars of shit

https://twitter.com/soa21475592/status/1159707674419687424

he's right you know. those progress videos are impressive. DJT doesn't have anything like that.

important question. why the fuck is there で next to 射精る?
that's the only kanji that has furigana in this shit, and I can't feel it

>>21845252
i avoid mining words with multiple readings and leave it to exposure unless there are common compound words that i can mine instead
excluding readings that only attach to other words like suffixes and counters and readings that look rare or historical
you could memorize two readings at once but youll still have to figure out when to use them and thats usually too much information for a card so youre going to have to look it up often for a while anyway

>>21845346
you already made your cock-slurping post for the thread, you weirdo cultist >>21843861

>>21845351
theyre trying to be funny

>>21845354
no shit but it needs to be reiterated that DJT can't compete since i see a lot of shit talking in this thread.

>>21845355
i'm not laughing because i'm going to get perma crippled

>>21845351
because you say でる in real life when ur 射精するいんぐ

>>21845351
in case youre too stupid to figure out it's not しゃせいる or youre too stupid to figure out what でる means

>>21845357
kys

>>21845351
出る

>>21845351
kanji is the meaning furigana is the reading you should know this by now

>>21845363
>>21845371
makes sense

>>21845363
made me realize i didnt screencap 出る出る出る出る出る出る出る

>>21845252
No aspect of wareya's frequency lists is created by hand. That ちゅっ for example is just a dick sucking sound. And what are you talking about with 父? It's two different words.

You're not going to get anything good from converting a frequency list to an anki deck automatically anyways, it's actually kind of funny that you assumed it would work out well.

i only have 3800 words in anki

made an anki card today

>>21845383
What are you on about? It worked out fine.

>>21845352
>>21845284
>>21845262
Thanks for the feedback, I've decided to just drop duplicates that show up. So for 方 you will only learn the reading/meaning most commonly associated with that kanji. I think this is probably good enough to get a mental dictionary prepared to jump into reading

>>21845397
ur stream of posts is like a twitter that got lost
why didnt u post the card

moe is the best poster in this thread in my most humble opinion

>>21845409
high contender but he is disqualified
>kud wafter

>>21845400
>What are you on about? It worked out fine.
Apparently not. His list doesn't have 父/ちち where your deck does, it has 父/とう just like you said it should.

>>21845423
explain

>>21845424
Oh the humanity, I had to filter out 4 entries in his list. Truly the project is doomed

>>21845429
it's pretty obvious moe is the leaker

>>21845429
he violated best girl what is else is there to explain

>>21845433
>complains about something
>gets pointed out that it's not true
>backlash
Good grief. At least make sure you're using his current list and not an old one.
https://forum.unseenjapan.com/t/frequency-lists/623
It's only 600 cards, I don't see how it would be hard for you to just make them by hand. Autogenerated Anki decks always have problems.

>>21845454
he cant make them by hard because he doesn't know japanese

>>21845454
どきどき

one of those nights where everything wrong with my life becomes clear and hits me like a ton of bricks. happens every few months but i usually am able to push it out of my mind within a few days. the worst part is not being able to see a way to fix any of it.

>>21845462
sounds like me every other day

>>21845454
Autogenerated is extremely powerful, there's a ton of shit I could do with easily if I want. Use a different frequency list? Done. Make the deck exclusively nouns and suffixes? Done. Pull in example sentences and audio clips from anime collection? Just need a few extra lines of code.

that's it i'm never watching jav again. just found out my fav star fucked a nigger

jamal strikes again

>>21845459
折角 with trouble, at great pains
涙 ... lachrymal secretion (lol)
通り avenue, street, way, road
余り remainder, remnant, ...
JMdict sucks. You can't just take the first sense of a word and put it on a card automatically alone. You have to define things manually, otherwise you're going to get mistakes by omission of the main senses of many words or just plain weird shit like lachrymal secretion.

Clicked on the wrong post.
>>21845473
>>21845473

>>21845486
jamal is a virtual signalling little cuck who may very well be a turd colored person himself who hates when people use slurs

>>21845492
That's a valid observation, but following my logic here >>21845400 it doesn't really matter if the definition is complete. Most of this shit people are only gonna be able to learn from reading a ton. I'm tempted to just remove the definition from the card completely but I think it helps more than harms for a beginner as long as he deletes the deck when he's done

>>21845441
is it really best girl if shes off limits

Maybe video integration is so shit in Anki because the guy knows if he did it properly some retard would make video subs2srs and all the cultists would automatically create 10000 anime video cards and watch it in anki while suspending everything taking up tens of gigabytes for nothing

>>21845523
as opposed to you adding 20k video clips manually LMAO!

>>21845523
https://twitter.com/calvininput/status/1155997504946597889

>>21845521
Do it, delete the definitions, be the hero that the Japanese learning community needs.

>>21845533
Lol no, I'm not making KKLC here

whats the point of deleting the definitions when theyre just gonna look up and read the exact same definitions when they encounter the word lol. you cant learn from context with 0 foundation

>>21845523
i wish the functionality for running your own server actually worked and wasn't total dogshit, then it wouldn't be an issue how much space i took up since it'd be my own damn space

>>21845521
removing definitions improves the situation for words with multiple readings too
youll be forced to look it up when you see it and then youll see that it has more readings than the one you learned
but itll be a barrier in adoption because no beginner is going to believe you that its a good idea
>>21845548
whats the problem
definitions are more useful in context and easier to learn when youre not learning the reading at the same time

>>21845553
good bait

>>21845523
actually he didnt do it properly because anki source is a complete fuckin disaster
a storage cap would be easy

it's normal to spit blood after fapping, right guys?

>>21845553
there are that many beginner words that are hugely ambiguous. just because you can't learn せっかく through anki doesnt mean you can't learn hundreds of other words. it's obviously going to help beginners more to have some foundation in the meaning of words so they can do some level of reading without a dictionary.

>>21845039
jamal

>>21845567
Not even remotely

>>21845569
you cant do any level of reading without a dictionary with a vocab of 600 words
more foundation helps but youre putting in more time and effort to get that foundation

>>21845584
hopefully it's nose bleed that flows the other way

>>21845567
if you're spitting blood chances are you have something really deadly and will not live long better see a doc

>>21845351
it's not uncommon to see a completely different word written in furigana than the one written in kanji

sometimes it's to make a pun or a joke of some kind. sometimes an english loan-word will replace the japanese (e.g. 復習 with リベンジ in furigana). in ero stuff, very often they will use incorrect kanji to write a certain words just because it feels more erotic that way (e.g. writing 中 as 膣内, and 中出し as 膣内射精, or in your case writing 出る as 射精る)

>>21845523
>tens of gigabytes
the horror

>>21845611
thanks, good to know. I haven't really read doujins that much yet

>>21845601
why doesn't this happen in my manga, that shit sounds manly as fuck compared to
>wah cute girl
>wah nose bleed