/jp/ - Otaku Culture

If you think others can't learn Japanese, you probably can't either.

>>21832958
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please remember for next time so you don't make the same mistake again newfriend

FUCK JAMAL AND FUCK THAT DOLL

what do this part i have highlighted mean?

>>21833257
倒れたり　する　こと　が　ある　ため
look up on jisho or tae kim

I get that Matt lives rent free with his dads so that explains why his patreon is enough to not have a real job. But how the fuck is Nuke able to live unemployed in Japan off a measly $400 patreon?

>>21833324
i imagine nukemarine scams people irl in the same manner he scams people online

poor japs getting pretty much robbed by some dirty old gaijin, who disrespects them even with his name. i'm gonna travel to japan and punch that loser and then fuck his wife.

>>21833267

oh it continues from the previous sentence. fuck!
that confused me

>>21833415
https://youtu.be/7uAvAomQg_U?t=252

>>21833555
it's not a program it's just a html file that shows character count/lines for use with a texthooker and mouseover dictionary. you can get it here http ://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk at number 3

>>21833324
he has a military pension

rise and shine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NcOz6C7qxo#t=61

>>21833591
>>21833079

i have to quintuple the characters i read per day and actually watch anime instead of listening to shit in the background while i play a game. this should take me from 9am to 1pm every day. i'm a NEET so i could do that. but I DON'T WANNA DO THIS SHIT ANYMORE

ichiban suyoi gaijin ni naritai is probably the most embarrassing thing ive heard in my life to be honest i feel bad for the people he was interacting with

not being able to learn japanese as a neet is truly shameful

Reminder to watch JAV for motivation!

>Seeing more and more errors in my N1 Anki deck

Does anyone have a good N1 kanji/vocab deck that isn't 30% wrong?

>>21833605
>I DON'T WANNA DO THIS SHIT ANYMORE
then don't, sunk-cost-fallacy kun

>>21833630
no that's dumb i wanna be fluent

>>21833637
why do you want to be fluent

>>21833637
how long have you been studying?

>>21833639
i wanna read and listen to japanese shit
>>21833640
about 11 months

>>21833647
>i wanna read and listen to japanese shit
but you literally just said you dont want to do that?

>>21833650
oh sorry let me clarify i wanna read and listen to japanese shit with no effort

>>21833658
if you don't enjoy the process you'll never get there

>>21833663
dude i've spent 11 months not enjoying the process i think i can do it. but i don't want to.

>>21833658
well you can't skip the line, you've gotta pay the piper
>>21833663
we've already been over this many times, people learn skills they dont enjoy all the fucking time

>>21833670
how far have you really gotten though? it's gonna take you many years to get to the place you want

Remember to follow the guide

>>21833671
out of necessity maybe. noones gonna force themselves to do something they don't want to do unless they have some internal motivation beyond "i would like this outcome", least of all a neet who doesn't even have the willpower to do something with their life.

>>21833682
eat my shorts

All right, due to complaints about the VN Core 1250, here is the EZ Core 600!
First 600 words of Wareya's VN frequency list. Includes single definition and audio sample from Jisho.
https://i.fiery.me/JWuA.apkg
Lemme know of any issues you find.

>>21833676
haven't gotten far though the beginning felt infinitely more impossible than it does now. that's why i need to quintuple the reading and watch more anime.

>>21833684
i disagree. people spend 4 to 8 years in university depending on the course solely out of utilitarian reasons. there definitely are doctors, engineers, programmers etc who go into it for just to make a lot of money despite not liking the field itself. for sure necessity is a primary motivator for a lot of people but there is a significant subsection that do it just for the outcome.

>>21833684
>noones gonna force themselves to do something they don't want to do unless they have some internal motivation beyond "i would like this outcome"
idk if that's true. why haven't i quit then?

>>21833700
haha

does wareya know japanese

>>21833707
you haven't got to the hard part yet so you probably will

>>21833722
what's the hard part? i felt the hardest part was attempting to get the gist of most sentences but i feel like i've gotten that and just need to massively increase my vocabulary.

>>21833705
university is seen as a necessity in modern society. those people probably didn't feel like they had any alternative.

>>21833732
the hard part is forcing yourself to read for 10k hours when you don't enjoy it. have fun

>>21833741
oh you just mean sticking to it. yea i think can do it since i already forced myself through the most boring part.

why can't there be more ecchi and hentai with jp subs?

>>21833754
think about it im sure u'll come to a sensible answer

>>21833760
you're telling me most jp subs are official captioning? fuck...

>>21833798
>doesn't link any proof
Cringe

>>21833708
he claims to but i don't think he has ever shown any proofs

>>21833823
where

@ every1 tryin to get up ppls butts abt if they know japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHl1RWM-diw

>>21833836
on his blog
http://wareya.moe/?blog/anki
>I taught myself Japanese to a decent degree of competency** on my own time.
>** So I said "decent degree of competency", right? Let me explain what that means. I can watch/listen to untranslated TV, anime, and online videos, and I can read. I still need to check a dictionary or use google once in a while, just like almost anyone who started learning less than six years ago. Things like food and ingredient names present the greatest remaining difficulty to me. I don't have any issues watching 実況s, fishing videos, or vlogs, or listening to music, playing games, browsing twitter, or reading 小説.

>>21833859
how can i get wareya to tutor me?

when you read a few different routes of one VN and then branch out to a different VN and realize just how true it is that different VNs use different vocab even if they're both basic as fuck.

>>21833859
that doesn't sound like he's saying "knows japanese" to me, in fact it actually kind of sounds like he's denigrating himself for having to use a dictionary all the time. anyone can reach that level in a few years. it doesn't even sound like he thinks he's fluent or anything

>>21833889
why do you care?

>>21833889
>for having to use a dictionary all the time.
i take it English is not your first language

"once in a while" is about as far as you can get from "all the time" without saying "never"

>>21833870
he has a video on his youtube channel about learning japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxA18V_1hCg

>>21833889
>anyone can reach that level in a few years
Anyone can, but most people don't.

>>21833916
yea but i want him to tutor me a couple hours every day over discord or skype

>>21833908
i just like talking about how good ou\r bad people are
good times talking about nuke and quiz here
>>21833910
makes sense to me

>>21833916
WTF his guide is exactly like the EZ Nihongo Guide

do you want to see wareya face off against qm in the quiz

vote now on your phones

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RTGqhCk0xM tfw people care about pitch when voice actors can't even say their lines without fucking up

tfw わたしはゲイ

you can usually tell how much someone has read or listened to japanese by how they speak it and this is really not looking good right here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxA18V_1hCg&t=8m34s

don't you know nips are so good at pitch that when they move out they don't EVER mix pitch accents they just tune in the local city's pitch unconscious to tune up their nihongo speakers

>>21833982
he's got that Kobe accent

if a girl you liked called you “baby” or “sweetie” or some other mushy term of endearment to your face, would you feel comfortable receiving it or would you feel awkward?

>>21833989
yea plus americans who live in britain and develop a bit of a british accent sound just like foreigners around the world learning english

>>21833996
awkward

>>21833992
fitting https://youtube.com/watch?v=1h3quq1u2b0

>>21833996
i cringe when couples my age (mid 20s) do it and i can't imagine doing it in a relationship. then again maybe that's part of why i'm a permavirg

I hate having to learn bullshit linguistics terms before learning the fun shit, like why the fuck have I got to learn how to read about imperfective form and adjective-predicate sentences and shit before I learn how to talk to people

>>21834032
idk i've never learned the terms you're using. i just learned passive/causative/te form and basic shit like that from tae kim and read a lot.

Going through VN Core 1,250 and I felt like an absolute retard on day 1, studied ~1 hour. Now on day 3 I'm even more mad how much of a retard I was on day 1. I'm moving at a snail's face though, barely covered ~50 words.

>>21834032
you're fucked dude. linguistics knowledge cripples your ability to use the language proficiently

i just saw the amagami guy made an 18month update a while ago, i didn't see anyone mention it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5wSAy4iuSw

>>21834037
you're going to be in this for the long haul and it's going to be frustrating. there will be times where your retention is absolute shit. if you're not reading every day, retention rates of 50-60% are not uncommon.

>>21834040
this guy is gonna ascend and so is blaze chris

>>21834045
Does it get any better? This is one of the times I've felt like the absolute most retardest person on earth, while doing Anki: not recognizing a kanji, seeing the same exact kanji 30 seconds later and still not recognizing it.

>I just make my own shit up when I come across grammar I don't understand
you might as well use google translate if you're going to "learn" like that

>>21833982
lol even the bald spanish speaking guy sounds better

>>21834040
thats a 44 min vid im not going to watch

i'm gonna play fnv and then tf2 while listening to that 44 min vid cya guys later

>>21834023
haha dont worry u get used to it hun

しんかんせんで
いいせきゲット！
よっしゃ〜

>>21834063
did you learn radicals?

13,444 / 615
It took exactly one hour to get through this.
Reading h-scenes is hella easy.

good way to have fun learning when you’ve been slacking. give yourself mini challenges. “read 5 pages” “do 20 reps” “shadow 5 sentences of native audio”. crossing things off as you complete each lil challenge will give you some good squirts of dopamine, which will help build momentum

u sound like a carbin dude

u better also record all the pages and "reps" uve done on ur spreadsheet and then schedule ur next pages and "reps"

can i get good by listening to all the fanservice compilations on fapservice.com

>>21834114
No, just basic kanji like dekiru, koto, ima, etc. Yes, I'm a brainlet.

>>21834165
You could, but wouldn't it be easier to play h-anime or one of those ero doujinonsei than it would be to have to click through tons of 2 min clips?

>【電視台】Chinese television station
carbin is literally back to learning chinese

kind of bored, what's a decent ln i should be reading from the library rn boys

>>21834195
lmao what the fuck is this man mining

>>21833889
lmfao what does know japanese mean to u and why do u have to be cocky to achieve it
>>21834040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5wSAy4iuSw&t=74
>>21834195
俺、なんか、飲みもろ買ってる。 【もろ】Both

>>21834221
that timestamp lmfao

this doesnt happen for any language other than japaneez lmfao

>>21834221
>俺、なんか、飲みもろ買ってる。 【もろ】Both
im laughing like a retard here

is anyone else in the mia cult tryin as hard as karbin to permanently cripple themselves with bad sentence cards

I asked in the last thread when the discussion about JRPGs was going on, but everyone ignored me so I'll try again.

Can anyone recommend any good ones which would be playable on a shitty PC?

>>21834282
no idea

>>21834282
literally anything on sufami bud go play ff6 (t edition jp-only hack if you've already played it vanilla)

>>21833324
military and he has a wife

>>21834282
can u just play some growlanser u faget whats ur problem

>>21834037
You could be learning vocabulary alongside grammar using comprehensible input, yet you choose to torture yourself with vocabulary flashcards.

https://youtu.be/k0kU2cc85ZA?list=PLB3F2C5D8B5F81F34
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/vjg.html

>>21834335
theyll never drink dude even if u dunk their head in the water they will sooner drown instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5wSAy4iuSw&t=383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5wSAy4iuSw&t=553

>>21833324
I think he sometimes teaches English or something also

>>21833682
That guide is flawed. If you follow it, you will 1) progress pretty slowly 2) suck at listening and output. Listen more than you read. Listen/read at least 2 hours a day.

>>21833940
You mean the input hypothesis? Everyone does that since reading is easier than listening. It's nothing innovative, it's super simple to the point of not being worth it entirely.

>>21834344
i tried that shit and couldnt fuckin do it cuz it was so boring
skim tae kim and jump into yotubato was best for me
>>21834355
>Listen more than you read
u can if u prefer listening but ur not gonna permanently cripple urself too bad as long as u get a little listening here and there
if reading is more fun for u while u have a shit vocabulary then u dont need to be afraid of it cuz matt told u ull ruin ur bitch accent

>>21834335
Watching videos and overlearning grammar sounds pretty cringe. Skimming tae kim then reading ftw

>>21834355
The guide isn't flawed. It tells beginners exactly what they need to hear, nothing more. Think Neo being told he's not the one

>>21834037
Learning words from 2000-3000 is easier than learning 0-1000 despite being the same amount. It's always hard at first. Keep the number maintainible, not huge.The point of the starting deck is to introduce the process and some words, it's easier as you get used to it and can start reading subtitles and japanese dictionaries.

>>21834387
yeah i dont like that that guide basically tells u to try to jump into 20 words a day from 0

>>21834063
Do some of RTK with lazy kanji not writing the kanji. You don't even need to finish it, just a few hundred to get used to kanji. 1000 at most is enough to stop direct kanji study

>>21834369
idk the yan show is pretty fukken good dude

>>21834335
kawaii

does anyone here meditate or has before? i have a question

>>21834397
Still easier than jumping into actual Japanese media from 0

>>21834411
What's the question?

>>21834411
i ONLY read nihongo after receiving a mating press for at least 30 minutes. anything less and i can't focus because i'll be too horny.

by forcing myself to read a hard short visual novel will it make comparatively easier visual novels easier to read?
or is that just a dumb way to go around it

What is this DJT text-hood method?

>>21834450
how beginner are you? if you're an absolute beginner it'll probably just be frustrating, but if you've at least read something easyish like kino's FUCKING tabby (hint) then making yourself read something harders probably a good idea.

>>21834450
Just reading things that are way above your level because "it will be good for me" is a bad idea. Look at the people here who finish core6k and read NHK news but can't read a simple yotsuba volume. Vocabulary is relative.

>>21834386
Tae Kim is shit. Right from the very get-go, it's full of misleading information which confuses people like
>A grammatically complete sentence requires a verb
...then he proceeds in the very next lesson to form sentences without verbs leaving everyone reading his guide scratching their heads ("wait, didn't you just tell me a grammatically complete sentence needs a verb?").

His explanations are just generally horrible compared to literally any other resource.

>>21834415
not learning nihongo is easier than learning nihongo too
>>21834450
long and ez is a lot better than short and hard when u have nothin under ur belt
u need a ton of exposure to the most common shit not a little exposure to more complicated shit
but the first vn i didnt drop was sayas fuckin uta so u also gotta follow ur heart
but it def shouldnt be the first thing uve ever read either lmfao
>>21834474
its for the best if u skim at such a speed u dont remember anything specific he said anyway so theres not really a problem

>>21834411
meditation tranny does and he is fucked in the head

i say stay away

>>21834450
i forgot to address the most important word in ur entire post
if ur forcing urself to do something its probably a mistake
have fun or ur fUCKED

>>21834474
Tae Kim is just an intro, not a complete guide. He is right that a single verb is grammatically correct, many gaijin use 私は at the beginning of every sentence because they think it's needed. You can just say something like 食べる and it's correct, you don't need to complicate it with 私は食べ物を食べる like many beginners think

>>21834474
>relying on grammar explanations
Cringe. Tae Kim is for showing you what different patterns look like, only reading can teach you grammar.

>>21834477
>not learning nihongo is easier than learning nihongo too
You trying to make a point here?

>>21834488
yeah memorizing words isnt learning nihongo lol
memorizing a couple hundred words isnt a big advantage
especially if uve watched at least 1000 hours of anime like u should have before u decided u wanted to learn nihongo

>>21834505
Or just learn it if you want. Don't waste time watching chinese cartoons if you don't even want to.

>>21834505
>memorizing a couple hundred words isnt a big advantage
Except it is. It makes breaking up a sentence into words infinitely easier

>>21834483
You completely missed the point, and that excuse is retarded. You could convey the same idea to people by simply telling them they can leave things out which are obvious from context (which is what competently made guides by people who actually know what they're talking about do).

It's worth remembering that Tae Kim's guide initially had a lot of outright errors in it which had to be corrected for him (not that it doesn't still have errors in it... even in the pronunciation section). He is not good at Japanese, or at least wasn't when he wrote his guide. I don't know why you would use it when better things are available.

>>21834514
can u even truly know u want it if u havent consumed a healthy amount of the media ?
or do u just think u want it because the chinese alphabet looks sick ?
>>21834516
if u ask me ull get a lot more of knowin the most common 10 or 20 particles + auxiliary words than the 600 most common words
which skimming tae kim will do for u

POOPTHREAD

>>21834418
i’ve been doing 25 minutes a day most days for almost two months. i started with mind illuminated but switched to something called TWIM 10 days ago. a few days after switching something weird started happening. i’m concentrating on the meditation object for a couple minutes, when i get shivers my spine and shoulders and it makes it hard to stay still. like an energy rush or something. it feels really good then it goes away and i feel normal again. then it comes back for a few seconds, then goes away. on and off while i’m doing the meditation. has that happened to you before and what you do when it happens? i don’t know if i should focus on the rushing feeling or the original meditation object.

>>21834532
As I said, it's just an intro. It's not a guide. It's just to make you aware of what Japanese is like. You do the actual learning from reading and listening, not from Tae Kim.

>>21834488
>Cringe. Tae Kim is for showing you what different patterns look like, only reading can teach you grammar.
Why would you use awkward Japanese sentences written by a Korean to learn what the patterns look like when you could use a resource with proper Japanese sentences written by a native speaker instead?

>>21834567
>It's not a guide.
The site is literally called GUIDEtojapanese.org, and he explicitly calls his guide the "Grammar Guide", not the "Grammar Introduction".

Anyway, please go look up the word "guide" in a dictionary because it appears that right now you don't know what it means.

>>21834577
why dont u just say what u have in mind so i can tell u its harder to skim
tae tae never makes stems and auxiliary words very clear either and thats a fuckin disgrace but u take whats quick and good enough

>>21834480
who is that? what kind of meditation does he do

>>21834577
If you can find a resource that covers as much as TK in the same amount of pages or fewer then link it

>>21834591
wanna know how I know you don't know japanese?

>>21834591
"Guide" as in an in depth explanation that covers everything. You can't even distinguish meaning based on usage. People see "guide" and think that's all they need, so it's good for promoting things. However, it's better used as a reference, not something to rely on.

stop roleplaying as me it's embarrassing to think that so many people can imitate how I acted two/three years ago lol
>>21834597
not part of this conversation but there's always https://boirodaisuki.neocities.org/ if you don't care about getting rid of background information explanations

>>21834616
how many dictionaries say guide means in depth or all in one
why do u think so many books prefix guide with all in one guide or complete guide

>>21834645
Usage. You're playing a prescriptivist semantics game but my point still stands. Tae Kim is simply a quick introduction to what Japanese is like, it's not for learning the details and how everything works.

>>21834671
i think u misunderstood the first line of my post cuz i meant probably none do
im just jumpin in this conversation to say that anyone who thinks anything that says guide should be complete is a fuckin idiot
and not just cuz the word isnt used that way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX1oIO4eIac&feature=youtu.be&t=298

I downloaded the Tango N4 deck and it only has 917 cards, is this expected? I thought it would have 1.5k

>>21834474
the reasons people give for tae kim being ineffective are always dumb shit that doesn't affect newbies

>>21834786
Cause you got the deck shared by Matt who deleted the 600 single word cards cause only sentence cards are real Japanese.

>>21834811
Do you know if any words are missing from the sentences? I also downloaded the N5 deck linked in the archives and there were plenty of single word cards, but maybe it wasn't a Mattified one?

>>21834811
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlNA6QfNqBA&t=264

My wacom pen just broke down and I can’t do my kanken reviews, on top of that a replacement pen costs 100€ what the actual fuck

>>21834937
yea but what's the point in learning to write, wouldn't speaking be more fun for you

is reading the bible in japanese a good way to learn japanese? i need a kids one

>>21834947
why would it be, I don’t even talk to anyone in my native language let alone Japanese

>>21834937
do u have fucking paper
>>21834948
didnt u pick up nihongo so u could avoid translated fiction

>>21834948

never mind

i could just use google translate to help me with each sentence

>>21834962
you don't write to anyone in japanese either. the hell

>>21834970
that’s not the point of learning to write though

>>21834990
wouldn't you get more big boy smarty points for being able to speak a language than write obscure kanji though?

>>21834948
i'm kinda losing my mind thinking about how you'd go about translating the bible into japanese. i wonder if every single character in it uses 私? japanese is a language that has so much character that just naturally happens in its text that i feel like reading a japanese translation of the bible would make the whole thing feel like a cartoon. or maybe that just says more about my autismal ass.

>>21834993
hes studying for kanken to pants his primary djt adversary

>>21835019
wouldn't jamal literally just post "good job" and that'd be the end of it.

>>21835024
could happen but he said hed drop his pants and write qm on his ass
and u should be hopin to see that as much as qm is

but can mary even pass N3?

win or lose itll be an exciting conclusion for the spectators

>>21834282
DQ 1, 2 and 3 and pocket monster gen I and II

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w6PgMoDGF4&t=1962

is he right about this?

>>21835134
no

>>21834948
genesis reads like some anime intro to me lol

>>21835134
this is literally me so yes he's right

Alright I printed out a bunch of 原稿用紙 and will do my kanken reviews on paper now
it’s much more of a pain in the ass but I can‘t afford a hundred bucks for the bullshit wacom pen

>>21835134
39:53 lol

>>21835153
a classic matt 表情

>>21835134
i think what hes sayin isnt wrong but could be misleading cuz it depends how far behind ur listening actually is
stopping and looking shit up in the middle of listening takes me out of the enjoyment of the media a lot more than doin that while im reading
so i put most of my time into reading but i read a lot of voiced shit and i still get some pure listening in
when i know the words and grammar and just might have to relisten to a line here and there its a lot more fun
as my vocabulary gets better ive been startin to listen more and dont have any regrets about it yet

>>21834967
trying too hard

>おなす
ok theres no need to be so polite about plants now

Somehow writing on paper was a lot more fun than writing digitally. I was drained a lot less than after doing the writing digitally although it does take longer. Still not sure if this could be an improvement to my workflow but I‘m glad to not be dependent on the piece of shit that is wacom.

I mean that's cool and all

what does stuff like wanikani offer over just anki? Is it really worth it?

>>21835360
its like an expensive premade deck that isnt modifiable and it and keeps u at a slow pace so that ull remain a customer for at least 2 years

>>21835375
so.. findom?

>>21835380
they could have at least made their mascot a cute 2d girl so u could have that appeal

Should I mine cards from an anime episode's subtitles before watching it?

>>21834032
just ignore all that shit and read/listen until you get a feel for how things work. it's a lot easier, seriously.

>>21835297
if hope ur experiencing the joy of writing to the fullest
lmfao if u pass kanken 2 and cant migiharai

>>21835414
no

damn is this for real

is the bottom right kana　ク　or　ワ
i literally can't tell because of the artstyle

>>21835488
whats goin on here

>>21835516
you see two kanji on the right and you select their radical from the potential answers on the left

>>21835506
fuck off retard

>>21835521
i bet theyre both the bamboo

>>21835521
they really couldnt just give u 2 choices or it wouldnt be a test lmfao
is there anything in kanken dumber than memorizing radicals

>>21834063
>Does it get any better?
yes, not only does remembering new kanji get easier in and of itself but the more of them you know the easier it is to infer readings and meanings of new words you see. i distinctly remember having the exact same thoughts as you a year ago when i started. it's normal to struggle to remember these retarded symbols at first when you've never done anything remotely like it before.

one thing i will say is, from personal experience, your nihongo journey is gonna be a lot harder than for the average person if you're highly self-critical/doubtful by nature.

>>21835506

>>21835506
it's ウ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk1Kty4XdBg

Jesus, it's so much easier to notice obnoxious things when you aren't busy reading subs. I didn't remember this shit being anywhere near this bad.

>>21835506
i think its ッ

>>21835297
Lmao, the novelty will wear off fast.
t. 50k characters drawn by hand and counting

radicals are dumb why is the radical of 鳴 鳥 and not 口 why is the radical of 騰 馬 and not 月 like for 服, why is 月 two different radicals in one which are only semantically different boy I can tell I will have a good time with this

>>21835574
you think that's bad?
there's like several different kanji that are slight variations of 辛

>>21835574
at least the other kanken trivia teaches u more about nihongo and nihon
radicals only teach u to use a paper dictionary marginally faster

>>21835591
I got this baby that I haven’t used yet maybe it’ll come in handy

>>21835620
whoever posted about that a couple months ago made me want it

Someone posted this dictionary a day or two ago, but how do I load it up on yomichan if it doesn't read zips?
https://www.mediafire.com/file/c6asm11suiet0ao/TegamiJitsuyo.7z/file

>>21835689
Is there a way to make one?

okay I figured out I need to use yomi-chan import but it just fails on the tegamijitsuyou dictionary when I try it. What gives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYeYMyzv4Uw

Post things that cheer you up while you're """learning""" Japanese.

>>21835689
what do you mean? yomichan does read zips, that file is a .7z file which isn't the same thing afaik

おはようおにいちゃん

あたしあつくて

ぽんこつになりそう

>>21835689
go to the yomichan site and there's a guide on how to make an epwing compatible with yomichan. be careful though many retards have died in the process of following instructions for this

>>21835771
the importer only works with specific dictionaries that are listed on the yomichan site. you can't just add any one without messing with it yourself (a lot of work)

>>21835896
There's the import tool that lets you import epwing dictionaries, I tried that but it gives an error for some reason.

>>21835908
>conversion process failed: failed to find compatible extractor for 日本語辞典（現代国語、外来語）

>>21835910
Exactly

Alright so I'm fairly comfortable with hiragana now and I'm learning Kata now. How do you recommend I grind on the fonts? Shoul I just randomly switch to one font one day or do the game with more and more fonts turned on or what?

>>21835925
just read

>>21835925
I D I O T

>>21835948
I am that's why I'm asking

>>21835960
Why the fuck would you waste time on grinding fonts? What's your plan after you have learnt kana?
I hope you're reading tae kim already, otherwise you are wasting time and your hiragana practice is going to waste.

>>21835996
I wanna get both the kanas done before I jump into tae kim ('cause I wanna use kata to pirate vocaloid more easily) but yeah that's the idea. I'm gonna read tae kim whilst studying kanji radicals and after that I'm gonna take a crack at the manga on the guide.

>>21836017
There's no point in playing that kana game for more than 2-3hours max, because it doesn't teach you to read.
You should already start reading the tae kim, because there's some kana that gives you some easy reading practice.
As for the radicals, I really think you should have already started them if you are planning to do that.

>>21836083
Oh ok, I guess I can read tae kim in conjunction to grinding the game. As for the radicals, sure I guess I can try starting soon. But I'm not too worried about "wasting time". I'm in no hurry.

>>21835925
>>21835960
>>21836017
>>21836096

>reading example sentences when you know literally 0 kanji
i did this on my first read through of tae kim and it made it completely useless. i went through it again after learning like 500-700 words and it actually had some benefit. but the consensus seems to be to just go through it right after u learn kana so i guess that's what u should do

>>21836158

>>21836182
but the readings are always included before the example sentences, so i don't see a problem. and you are going to learn some kanji from that already

>>21836017
the sooner u read actual japanese the sooner ull be "done" with kana
and ull learn a lot more than drilling a few fonts can teach u from normal exposure to fonts and handwriting
>>21836182
i think u should consider the example sentences primarily for when u read what tae tae said and u dont have a fuckin clue what he meant
they arent going to teach u much and no matter what u do ur going to forget 90% of what he talks about anyway but at least ull learn that when u see は its usually a particle (rip qm though) and かった is past tense and thats enough to help u start parsin sentences and gain some real natural exposure through media while u occasionally google all the shit u forgot
also at least ull probably learn 私 lol

>>21836202
Where is this from ? Is it a mobile game ?

>>21836236
Yeah it's from the old neptunia app. The one before Mainichi Compa

I wonder if I can ask this here? What's the japanese text for ultimate detective?

>>21836293
https://youtu.be/DBh8x1iXIDg
アルティメットディテクティブ

using hover dictionaries will cripple your japanese like wareya so i suggest you get used to looking stuff up in qolibri

わたしはゲイ

good thing im too retarded to set up a hover dictionary

>>21835620
nice paperweight

>>21836388
Me too anon! Can I suck your dick whilst you lern japanese?

>>21836417
since when were you under impression that i am learning japanese?

>>21835859
>ぽんこつになりそう
already, liar!!!!!!

>>21836383
matt has spent more time in qolibri than anyone and he cant read 広義

>>21836424
Can I suck your dick?

>>21836474
yes pls, people have told me to have the thing called sex

>>21836467
matt is special ok

>>21836478
Yum. Tasty throbbing big unwashed anon dick.

>>21834937
lolling imagining this guy whos never spoken a word of japanese and never written a single thing non digitally walking into kanken 2 lmFAO

>>21835551
kurokos a freak dude thats like 95% of the shows appeal the other 5% is uiharus head

>>21836491
>anon
>big
even fantasies should be at least a bit plausible dude

>>21836497
were all trannies here and every1 knows trannies have the biggest dicks

>>21836480
theres nothin wrong with a little hover action if u have the self control to actually try to read before u hover
unless ur one of those poor fucks that goes i cant hook it i guess i aint readin it lmfao

>none of the easiest ones are on itazura
>flyable heart and leyline from the other guide that I tracked down on nyaa don't work on wine

th-thanks I guess I'm stuck with kanon

>>21836505
this is not discord

my dick is 15 cm bone pressed

>>21836510
read kud wafter thats an easy one

>>21836510
kanons ftw tho but u should wait till its cold outside to read it i guess if ur a southern hemisphere subhuman it might be a good time right now but ur also a mindless animal so theres really no point

>>21836532
lmao wtf

found jamal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F24PQKTaVeY#t=280

>>21836510
did you read the far right of that picture cuz that's the reality

https://www.strawpoll.me/18444511

so that nigga that did the djt survey just data farmed us or what? where are the results faggot

>>21836547
if I could read anything I'd be busy learning the context of whatever the fuck this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUZq_iAuvg

>>21836564
ur dumb as hell if u didnt see through his obvious posts

>>21836497
hey wtf dude, don't interfere in my erp session

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMADsgteGQk
it's banger time. preferably some dnb with nihongo vocals if you've got it

>>21836584
i'm anti erp

あしたはナガサキのひ

ナガサキしってる？

>>21836564
yes you fucking idiot, I told you guys when he started posting that

>>21836586
based on ur link no it is very much not banger time

>>21836586
shit banger

>>21836602
>>21836605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtMcOvVZtu8
i respectfully disagree

>>21836570

oh shit https://forvo.com/word/%E7%AD%92%E7%8A%B6/#ja

>>21836510
the left side is the weakest part of the chart cuz u cant find most of it
u can def find treating2u on nyaa though and u can prob find policenauts through google
>>21836641
same guy can help u out with https://forvo.com/word/%E5%85%A8%E5%93%A1/#ja

>>21836637
play mizuiro thats a good 1 too

lol i just realized u posted that vid >>21836570 i totally didnt even notice or click

not gonna lie thats not a great introduction for the game ur supposed to watch that later not b4 u fucken play it >_<

>>21836641

People that say

"You don't really /know/ the kanji after doing Heisig's Remembering The Kanji"

don't know what RTK is for.

What's better?
-Knowing the alphabet first
-Knowing it after thousands of words of isolated vocab

The latter is why people don't finish learning Kanji

>>21836668
yeah that's the only dictionary that has that entry so it made me wonder when i see almost everywhere else saying つつじょう. maybe it's one of those it doesn't really matter words

u should prob just roll a die and pick somethin from nekoneko soft on itazura i mean look at the name lmfao
also sick u can get ramune that guy didnt look very hard

also the updated version of that dictionary has つつじょう as a reading so im not gonna worry about it and just feel it https://kotobank.jp/word/%E7%AD%92%E7%8A%B6-2066356

>>21836673
face it 花ちゃん ur just not a great poster and thats ok

>>21836678
yah guys pretty fail and aids but he did post a good link that personally made me happy so im torn

is moe tryin to imitate reddit poster ive been wonderin wtf hes doin for a while

>>21836673
>-Knowing the alphabet first
>-Knowing it after thousands of words of isolated vocab
except if you know the alphabet you can pretty much read anything which you cant after rtk. nice false equivalence though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ueaD22hg8
i wanna listen to this while walking around tokyo at night like a giant pussy ass faggot

wouldnt the alphabet as it were be the radicals that make up the kanji lol

alphabetards btfo

>>21836696
theres only 1 way to walk around the city and its with ur squad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3YB6--uFPw#t=29

anyone know what this one illegible piece of shit kanji is?

i gotta give itazura credit
the expanded ln library is aight
the retro game library is cool
but the page full of voiced eroge removes every excuse u could have to not fuckin start makin it right now
what are u waiting for ?

>>21836704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2h4PhgobI8
is the music video a japanese version of this lol though it might have come out earlier im too lazy to check

Daily reminder

>>21836714
fuck meant to link the one with jim carrey oh well

>>21836714
>>21836719
doesnt matter u fucked up hard get wild was way before that

>>21836719
>jim carrey
lol

>>21836717
daily reminder

>>21836717
does this chart come with any context or source

>>21836736
it's ripped straight from Wareya's VN stats

what if i told u that u can know every word in a sentence and still fail to comprehend it on even a surface level

>>21836745
Thats a cool site. Interesting how low those unique kanji counts are. Pretty motivating.

>>21836709
looks like 名 my dude

>>21836752
good to know meta info like that

>>21836752
what if i already know this?

>>21836752
honestly thats every1 who cant even speak or think in japanese but claims they can read and thus are able to just get and enjoy everything perfectly fine lol

>>21836765
oh yeah, that fits, guess the ni oite should've given it away, but still where's the fuggin top edge

>>21836713
i dont jerk off to cartoons

>>21836789
then ur never gonna jerk off to knowing nihongo

>>21836796
thats ok

>>21836788
Top edge is part of the 2nd downward stroke

>>21836806
Is the guy that got baited still here? I love this pic lol

>>21836812
yup he went insane and shitposts under the persona of jamal

>>21836806
>samefagging to make a point

no whities allowed

>>21836806
holy fUCK ive been here over 2 years

>>21836835
try in 全角文字 u dumb fuckin whity

>>21836836
did u ever learn japanese?

is there no good alternative to microsoft ime and google ime if you use windows?

>>21836853
romaji de ichiban ha yai

>>21836852
no but i finished 7 eroge this year

my thundercock is too lengthy

>>21836869
why didnt u stick with ur guns and try ｃｈａｄ

>>21836835
cant wait for u to spend 3 minutes on the game go wow i cant read any of this and its not like that vid i linked then close it and never play it again and spend ur days looking out the window watching life literally go by wondering why u cant just know japanese lmao

>>21836782
so a noob who can't speak or think any sentences sees これはペンです and can't 'really' understand it because they'd never have that thought themselves? you may as well just say it's impossible to understand anything unless you're completely fluent. or do you think that after thousands of hours of not understanding anything at all suddenly you just gain fluency and understand everything?

ill help him out
here u should try entering チン

>>21836895
look bud I have a 100% comprehension rate so far

>>21836904
why did they use は

>>21836904
congrats on owning urself by saying "yep my ability to process in japanese is limited to aPPLePeENNnn"

didnt read the sentences after that

>>21836875
>>21836905
the name is kenji ur name should be kenji thats how this works (nekoneko gamers will get this)

>>21836914
not knowing that doesn't prohibit someone from understanding the basic meaning of a sentence, which is what were talking about. 'surface level' was the phrase used. you don't need to know the exact nuance of everything to get meaning out of it.

>>21836918
it's an extreme example to show how your position doesn't actually hold up. do you understand how logic works? you can't just make statements that can be disproven by the most obvious example

>>21836904

>>21836920
u know what else does that ? google translate

checkmate nihongo fantasyworld tards

>>21836924
it's not nice to make fun of retards

>>21836924
sorry cant hear the logic over ur incessant hand waving as u continue to suck hARd

>>21836933
i don't actually suck tho i just think your statement is dumb. there's a middle ground between being completely fluent and not understanding anything at all. the idea that you have to be fluent to be able to read and understand stuff is clearly ridiculous. i could go and read spanish wikipedia and understand half of it just based on prior english knowledge

おなかすいた

２４じにたべるとふとりそう

どうしよ

why are there so many words for "to sit"

>>21836948
ファミチキ買ったら？

why are there so many words for kyonyuu

>>21836950
because japs do a lot of sitting

>>21836945
oh i wasnt insulting ur japanese when i said suck haRd but rather ur posting

also lol @ using spanish as an example when the target language here is japones LOL whatEverr squiddo

>>21836918
i dont nekoneko but if theres a canon name and u dont use it u aint gamin right

>>21836960
i mean why do u think the other pic encourages u to put けん lol

tho fwiw when i played all the early elf games i def inputted name and dont regret sHIt

tfw its not completely even

that feeling when you correctly guess a name reading
that feeling when you correctly guessed the meanong of a word
god bless kanji

>>21836958
Wow that's what I do too! I really think I am japanese we are so similar!

>>21836982
they sit on the ground though. westerners only sitting on the chair

>>21836977
np dude, i mean they just make sense

>>21836982
Enjoy your deep vein thrombosis

>>21836992
they sit on the groudn cuz u can take a savage out of the cave but u cant take the cave out of the savage

>>21836995
I enjoy everything that's deep

>>21836995
im good i just stood up to grab another 2 liter

what is the most banger banger in the world?

>>21837001
ive seen girls put a whole 2 liter in their ASS

>>21837014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yirVxFBnp2o#t=25

>>21837015
how many days ago did u first get on the internet

>>21837022
the same day bill gates got pied

>>21836789
why not? i never understood that there's a dichotomy here. ever since i hit puberty i've been attracted to 2d and 3d. why aren't all guys? don't we all view 2d similarly? especially if you can watch an anime and enjoy it.

>>21837014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cotpBlAjUpc

>>21837015
I've seen a man put a jar up his ass

>>21837014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XJ_s5IsQc

>>21837039
ive seen a dude stretch his asshole out really wide (think like hidamari girl face wide) with both hands

>>21837035
i dont have any sort of moral objection to it, my dick just doesnt get hard to 2d

>>21837033
been a while since i watched that

>>21837014
https://youtu.be/beN5ep5MrdY

>>21836717
so the intermediate plateau starts after about 15k words?

>>21836952
コンビニまで２キロあるの

どいなかはつらいよ

>>21837041
こういうおんがくはすき

>>21837037
holy shit dude pls

>>21837051
are you a big tits/ass guy at all? maybe that explains the discrepancy. if anime women were flat chested i wouldn't fap to them.

>>21837100
whats ur fuckin problem

>>21837100
i like both of those but im also attracted to 3d without either. i think u spend too much time here, you guys are the outliers and im the norm more like it.

yea i wouldn't fap to a 2d woman except in extraordinary circumstances (like playing an eroge and my dick is hard from the epic dialogue)

>>21837114
same but my life is full of extraordinary moments : )

havent fapped to a 3d in months

havent even gotten an erection in months ._.

>>21837125
can u replace this picture with one thats pleasant to look at

>>21837131
no 3d has ever fapped to u either so ure slowly making it even

>>21837131
how much has your 日本語 skills leveled up in this time?

>>21837109
i think a majority of guys have masturbated to hentai even if they don't admit it. hentai is consistently one of the most popular categories on porn sites. but i'm not accusing you of deviating from a norm. you could be the norm. i am simply curious why there is a split between people who are attracted to 2d.

fapping to 3d is more embarrassing than fapping to 2d if u think about it

>>21837137
oh i didnt know we were sharing inner thoughts from when we stand in front of the mirror

>>21837139
its for the best 3d whores are not worthy to think of me or to have me think of them

>>21837140
very much probably

>>21837146
i remember 1 time my gf came home from work and i just started following her around the house jacking myself and she couldnt stop laughing and then i squirted some at her and got it on her leg and she got mad

>>21837162
this guy is lying, don't believe this guy

there's the advanced philosophical n1 word

accidentally downloaded a hardsub anime

>>21837171
she was pissed that i was "getting cum everywhere" cuz shes also kind of a neat freak

i mean so what if i got some cum in the carpet man thats why we have a carpet steamer cant we just live right now

>>21837180
i was on ur side until u said carpet

>>21837174
fuck I can't read that

れいぞうこにＭＯＷあった

これたべたらもうれつにふとる

here's the grammar word that tae kim says you rarely ever see and only need to know it if you're studying for n1

>>21837200
which one

>>21837210
べく

>>21837200
べく? that ones not even one of the actual 'rare' n1 ones

if you only read 2k characters a day there's quite a few grammar points in dojg that you won't come across in a year. don't be like me.

You guys are watching Hiros streams right. You better be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4z_KvUbwfI

>>21835925
learn how to write them then you won't need to memorize the ways fonts write them

>>21837217
that isnt rare dipshit

Why is the channel called matt vs japan if he doesn't actually live in japan

>>21837178
I'd be pissed as well if I were your girlfriend.

why is the channel called matt vs japan if he's not fighting japan

>>21837239
that's the point retard

>>21837239
why are you replying to him as if he's the one who said it and not tae kim? who is the real dipshit here...

>>21837241
why would you live in a country that you're fighting? "why was ww2 germany vs russia? germany doesn't live in russia" that's my impression of you

matt vs discord

can somebody post that thing that counts the characters/lines in html?

>>21837246
>>21837249
i didnt really read the post tbqh

>>21837241
he thought he was gonna like japan but it turns out he despises it but he already sunk the cost of learning the language so his new plan is to japanese to boomers online for money I guess

barry vs garry

so matt actually hates japan? And he's trying so hard to learn nihongo and to understand them so he can destroy them? Wow the more you know, it all makes sense now. He's not actually a weeb

>>21837270
This sounds like it could be kind of plausible but dunno much about the matt lore

>>21837245
hes tryin to fight japan but hes not bringin anything to the table

>>21837263
>>21833585

>>21837277
why dont u just make some popcorn and watch the 3 hour video like the rest of us

>>21837277
He doesn't like anything about japan lol, he doesn't like the culture, the society, the history, or the weeb shit. He learned japanese by watching pokemon in a toilet stall and grinding anki when he was a japanese exchange student and had no interest in going anywhere or doing anything. He literally only has an OCD fixation on the language and "sounding native" for god knows what reason

>>21837282
thank u very much

wtf this loli is asking if it's ok for her to see my penis

>>21837301
who?

Today I got the feeling more than I have in a long time. That feeling that pulls me to Japan. I’m not sure exactly what triggered it, something about being with all those Japanese people today. But I think it’s the first time I have felt it this much since being in Japan. It makes me truly miss it, being in Japan. I have happy memories like no other. Only now that I am back home can I truly realize how much I loved it.

I want to go to Japan so much; more than anything. I want to be able to read ノルウェーの森 from back to back. I want to have a cute Japanese girlfriend. I want to be able to have real conversations with HAL. I want to be able to get lost in manga for hours at a time.

I want to be Japanese.

>>21837305
in my 同人音声 ofc

>>21837306
damn look at all that hair