/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Remember to read the guide!

Stop creating threads before the previous one is dead

>>21823616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHp0zIsukYo&feature=youtu.be&t=426

this is going to be you, quit now

bunch of premature ejaculators on this board now

今回もよろしくお願いします

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NcOz6C7qxo#t=61

FUCK THE STUPID DOLL

In honor of DJT #2225

A thread that will forever live in infamy

>>/jp/thread/S21814529#p21814529

>>21823712
im the dude behind him that uncontrollably unleashes a wicked 笑み

>>21823712
this is one of the worst gaijin accents ive ever heard this is literally how i speak when im trying to parody dumb gaijin lol

>>21823712
>yeah don't worry about your accent guys

>>21823733
its almost as bad as mattvsjapan u know the guy with 2 dads

it got a bit fucked up but remember this way is the next thread >>21823726

>>21823712
>>21823739
im gonna be honest i have no idea how this happens to any1

did he just read a genki book and that was all the japanese he was ever exposed to ? idgi ぶっちゃけ

>>21823740
you talkin about the ベリー gay Berry and ゲイリー？

>>21823745
its the so called permanent crippling that matt tried to warn us about

>>21823751
considering the dude has an N6 vocab i'd say he's just a beginner

>>21823751
the villain was right all along

>>21823755
lol he's actually better at japanese than everyone in djt though

>>21823745
he doesn't subvocalize.
literally any amount of anything voiced in japanese shouldn't leave you in that condition. maybe the guy is sick in someway

>>21823763
yah this is pretty fucked up actually hes actually i dare say fluent what the FUck

all i can say is shoutouts to yuki yuna guy hes honestly win as hell

>>21823767
he was obviously just doing the voice as a joke and is secretly a master

if u could be fluent tomorrow but in exchange ud be permanently crippled in such a way that u will sound like that forever
would u do it ?

>>21823778
lol it's not worth it

>>21823778
yes
i just want to read porn

>>21823778
fuck no

>>21823778
hell fucking yes

he might be deaf and have learned purely through reading romaji

u should take what u can get cuz nihongo is fucking impossible can u really get fluent any other way

wait is that guy in that vid the guy who used to always post yuki yuna in these threads LOL

is that why hes not around now cuz hes finally realized his dreams ? plz tell me this is the success story ive been dreaming of

>>21823789
*gathers all the fuckign dragonballz*

i wish 2 become fluent in japanese

shenlong: that cannot be done

imagine liking one cartoon a lot and then moving to the country that made it cuz u think it was so saikou janai desu ka

the cartoon isnt gonna suddenly be real cuz ur there what a retard

>>21823797
fuck then can my waifu be real

>>21823800
obviously thats not the idea the idea is if something so epic came from japan then that means thats where he must go to find more epic

jamal already is the success story. that 爺さん gets to shitpost all day everyday, because he has mastered the language

>>21823616
why do you keep creating threads shithead lol fuck off already

what if ur waifu became real and u couldnt even talk about the fucking weather cuz nihongo is impossible
she just tries to baby u with ieesu noo ieei and a lot of kasigeru

guys guys i know why japanese has so many english loan words, it's because nihongo is literally too hard even for natives

>>21823805
それならたやすい願いだ

＊materializes ur waifu before ur eyes but shes like a characters from parappa the rapper lol*

>>21823740
Matt's accent doesn't sound natural but it's better than that guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHkYO9lWO8

>>21823828
lmao that starting script is like from a porno

>>21823828
imagine being barely a minute in to a convo w. ppl uve never met before and being matt right here LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHkYO9lWO8#t=120

Yeah I kind of cringe at that video I really can't watch it lol

reason #65535 that anime cards suck: can't use for yotsuba

I mean if you are mining from yotuba you may just not be qualified to say what the best mining method is

u have to do core10k before u can begin anime cards
it ensures that ur committed enough to the addiction to handle what ur about to do to urself

>>21823894
Anyone who does core10k is likely too stupid to learn japanese

lots of great vocab to mine in yotuba

yattaaaa
kono bango ni yatta
yoshinaka koshiwoo yameteeee oni-koko neeeee

Pro Tip for beginners looking for something to watch besides flying witch. Ano Nattsu is good and very simple to understand

>>21823712
こういうのアニメつくったひとへ

おかねがもどらないんだっけ

>>21823918
window_girl.swf ftw

>>21823939
ano means anus in spanish

>>21823940
If you're not going to use kanji, why even write it?

Surely this shitposting is done by bots?
There's no way there are multiple autists pathetic enough to spam these threads all day long

>>21823824
I've read this とんでもない thing in the English Wikipedia:

>Perhaps around 85 per cent of Old English words are no longer in use, but those that survived are basic elements of Modern English vocabulary.

Forget Japanese--imagine how hard the original English must have been.

>>21823963
Yeah it's hard. It's not like the French ruled over the English speakers for hundreds of years or anything and contact with north germanic peoples for hundreds of years resulted in English losing most of its grammatical cases

Having compared with jisho.org, I've found that most of the time, wiktionary's definitions make the most sense, to put on a card. Jisho's definitions are often too broad, and that's too much to memorize. It's easy to remember a narrow, clear definition.

wiktionary was a discovery for me.

>>21823980
You Anglos are the better for it, I think. I don't like the sound or feel of Old English at all.

>>21823981
>calling a translation a definition
>not using a Japanese dictionary
Amazing find, life changing advice

>>21823981
are you making cards by hand?

>>21823997
Yeah, I make each card, 10 per day.
>>21823995
Okay Matto.

"specific dog word"

actually the definition barely matters cuz you got an anime context that makes it obvious what is meant

>>21823993
>sound

At least if this reading is any good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOfvCN_F5cg

the tempo of the speaker is a bit weird, but it couldn't have been too different, could it?

>>21824002
>Yeah, I make each card, 10 per day.
you know you can automate stuff tho right? https://streamable.com/in2b2

>>21823900
nope

>>21824019
TIL english is closer to spanish than old english

>>21824012
A translation works for things like nouns and simple words but there are many words that have several meanings or nuances that a translation cannot capture like 木枯らし on jisho is just "cold wintry wind​".

Context can help but even then you're only getting a general outline

>>21824036
Well, the west of Europe all speaks more or less the same language.

>>21824027
I know, this isn't my first post. I follow along the subtitles in notepad. I think I'll need that crutch for a couple years.

Hey Quizmaster is there any more weird kanji you need to mine from anime? I could help you

I don't even read the dictionary--any dictionary--for most words. I don't fully know if I've seen things before or not. I kind of understand them anew, possibly every time.

You guys should eventually move to Japan because it's slightly less doomed than the rest of the world.

so a girl served up some spiked lemonade to her friends and they all got drunk... later someone asked what the drink was called and once they heard the name they said それは引きますね .... what kind of meaning does hikimasu have here? I don't see how the drink pulls.

DJT is like one big dysfunctional abusive family

I think most people are are unable to gauge their own comprehension ability. They'll tell you they have "100%" or "99%" comprehension just because they don't feel completely lost looking at gibberish, but that's not what you find out when you question them on what certain parts of the text might mean exactly.

The only good measurement of other people's Japanese competence, to me, is their own ability to express themselves in it.

I'm good for now thanks though

>>21823981
fuck kiririn

>>21823946
anus nuts
>>21823810
when has he ever proven this

no one in djt history has ever had a high enough nihongo level to call him out

>>21823722
why

パリひる４０ど？

よる２０ど

ほんと？

>>21824089
think of it as 距離を置く

>>21824089
pull away from

>>21824099
Wasn't a challenge... just a very boring, obvious 正論, as they call it.

>>21824119
You're basically just using romaji at this point.

>>21824125
>>21824120
sorry, i'm retarded. Still confused here. The drink pulls away from? what does that even mean

>>21824127
Sorry I meant
>>21824060

>>21824132
No, the one who says 引きます is the one who implicitly gets the が in that contextual scheme.

>>21824132
no they’re pulling away from the drink. は doesn’t necessarily mean the thing before it is doing the action. watch dolly’s WA vs GA video

>>21824132
バカです

aight i watched some shitty anime its back to whatever the fuck this is

>>21824133
Oh np.

>>21824093
but passive vocabulary though

>>21824135
Ah thanks

If senpai hasn't seen 恋愛ラボ then he is really missing out. They do 恋愛研究.

>>21824151
Forget about it.

>>21824166
I LOVE THAT ANIME

>>21823712
Guy is obviously trolling or is sick.

パリのきじみつけた

>猛暑は数日で終わる

ちょっとうらやましい

>>21824093
a lot of people tryin to estimate their comprehension in a number are purely talkin about how many words were new to them without givin any thought to how well they understood what they "know"
>>21824151
if u cant explain wtf somethin means its not because the words in it arent in ur active vocab lol

>>21824181
Well, they want to feel good about it, but they lie to themselves and to others! And no one feels good in the end! Because no one is wrong to himself alone, but he spreads his madness toward those who are near him and receives more in return!

>>21824181
he said their ability to express themselves in the language... you look dumb lol

>>21824203
I said both things dude. There's even a line break.

how the fuck do RTK tards do it
I can't spend 1 hour a day writing without falling into utter despair und procrastinating the entire day away
it's so fucking boring
I'd rather just watch some anime or play some games

Anyone know where I can get しごカレ ～エッチな女子大生とドキ×２ラブレッスン！！～ ?
It's not in the library and I don't feel like paying 70 bicks for it.

>>21824213
I did that shit for hours a day for months... Good shit

>>21824208
>The only good measurement of other people's Japanese competence, to me, is their own ability to express themselves in it.

>>21824218
Just memorizing words with kanji, without RTK, I picked up on the radicals, which I need to live or something.

As I picked up more radicals that way, it became easier to remember new kanji. I don't know about RTK but the radicals are clearly the "letters" that make up a kanji, and when you know the radicals then you sort of know the alphabet for Chinese.

>>21824213
Most people doing RTK don't write the kanji anymore. Writing them is useless as a beginner. You'll lose writing ability anyway unless you keep writing but it doesn't seem worth it, it's just writing for writing's sake. Even Khatzumoto stopped recommending that in favor of "lazy kanji", seeing the kanji and recalling its meaning or a close approximate

Learn the kanji meaning then start reading, learning words will be easier, after you can read and understand well then learn to write since you'll probably be writing anyways. In the beginning, you don't know the language so you have nothing to write.

>>21824229
How would you break down the radicals for 鬱

I hope nobody you aren't assuming me to be an RTK tard I'm studying for kanken and know all the words I'm learning to write

>>21824213
just picture wrinkly hairy ass cheeks in ur mind and move forward towards that reward
>>21824228
u really should use ur words to properly say what u want to say so no one gets confused : )
i think what ur tryin to say is that ur level is higher than ur communication would make it look because ur passive vocabulary is bigger than ur active vocabulary
but thats true for everyone so ur ability to communicate will still probably point in the direction of if ur complete shit or not ?

>>21824238
not him but having done RTK, 鬱 is easy

>>21824238
I've seen haruhi so that's pretty familiar. I didn't say I break kanji down, I just recognize some radicals.

鬱 We have approximately two trees, an afternoon on a mountain, a cap, bad luck over change, and a beard.

if u write 鬱 one time a day for like 4 days u probably wont forget it for at least 3 months
no mnemonics needed

>>21824246
Haha are you trying to dissuade me from doing kanken? Afraid I'll make it?

「自サバ」って分かる？

>>21824267
i said before can u imagine all of djt investigating an old mans ass
i want it as bad as u

>>21824265
And Genki teaches everything then I can make my chinese cartoons, right?

Just make the process quicker, mnemonics take like 5 seconds to make.

>>21824279
u dont need to make 3000 mnemonics just like qm doesnt need to make 18000 anime recordings

I've given signing up for N1 some more thought and I decided against it just because of what a fucking in the ass the whole sign up is and I'll have to go out there in the middle of the semester and pay those fucking 60€ for a piece of paper I don't even need
maybe another time

Did itazuraneko just remove the alternative index pages from the website?

>>21824357
I told ya. The feeling that you know comes not from without but from within.

>>21824357
what a chickenshit

More urgent than the JLPT is me being unable to release my sexual energy due to being at relatives and it’s pure suffering I need to jack off so bad at first I thought it’s just porn addiction but I‘m beginning to feel like this is bothering me at a much deeper level like holy shit I need to get out of here and blow my load right now

>>21824385
get help

>>21824357
Tu es. Es wäre ziemlich spannend zu sehen wie wirkungsvoll deine Animekarten sind.

Scenario: this obvious Russian ESL (not me) who can't produce even a single sentence that wouldn't be obviously unnatural or even mysterious tells you in painfully obvious Russian syntax that he has "basically 99% comprehension of Harry Potter" and "fluently watches Star Trek". Do you believe his claim?

>>21824390
You mean like a prostitue?

>>21824397
Doubt it but could be. Comprehension =/= output

>>21824385
its a good thing i learned to stealth jack off with brutal efficiency at a young age

>>21824401
So much shit would have to go over that supposed ESLs head though, whether cultural context or nuance. Of course, he can't notice it just yet.

I've recently abandoned being heterosexual because I openly enjoy looking at 2D boys get close... surely that has to be the line.

>>21824213
it's funny because i hated RTK but i forced myself to do it like 2-3 hours a day yet i hate listening to the point i only do it "passively", and only for an hour or two, and thus don't actually improve.

>>21824238
google wolverine and that character to find an RTK story for it

>>21824422
i think the line is when u want to be a part of the action
otherwise isnt it false advertising

I can’t do anything because windows has been updating for 1 hour how is this acceptable in 2019

>>21824435
I find gay culture absolutely repellent so far but... I'd do an isekai tensei into a yaoi manga. Just that. I just trust males more instinctively.

>>21824423
hell yeah if you’re serious i have so much BL novels and drama CDs to recommend

and of course manga

>>21824499
>>21824501
initiate me!!!

https://streamable.com/7ggph

Me when a new guy joins the quiz

>>21824559
I love how epically chuni you are about these things lol.

>>21824509
^o^ ok first shiraberu these three on google image search and let me know if any of them appear to be to your liking

酷くしないで
ファインダーの真実
テンカウント

>>21824594
hard to choose! I want to feel more of 酷くしないで but テンカウント is so cute too... I'm gonna go with ファインダーの真実 though! the way it looks is just woah! ファインダーの真実 is the most appealing.

あける＝open
ひらける＝can open

毛氈苔

毳です

>>21824638
tehehe, i had a feeling you’d like that one most (; the manga is fuckin awesome it’s action-packed and full of thrills and unexpected twists! and of course steamy scenarios. 真実 is the first of a series of 8, as pictured. if you’re into drama CD’s there is also a fantastic set of those, you can find them on youtube ^O^ and the company that makes that series is called BEBOY, i own a few of their anthology books (not ファインダー series specifically but similar characters, relationship dynamics and art) which are also very nicee but i haven’t tried searching for them online, they may exist though. i’ll post a pic after this in case you’re curious about those. but yeah i totally recommend ファインダー シリーズ！

>>21824727
Are you a fujoshi?!?

what have you brought upon this thread

Is translating song lyrics to 135 kanas a day enough of an exercise to get both hira and kata in my head in a week? Or would you suggest something more involved? This is my first night.

>>21824727
thanks~. my life may just never be the same after this!

>i’ll post a pic after this in case you’re curious about those.
please do. I will at least look at the covers.

>>21824733
I'll be out after this. Being a fudanshi namefag is a bit too much.

and repeat

>>21824787
I'd rather you stay, for many reasons, but concerning that gay shit even I sasuga ni douka to omou

>>21824734
lol nahh, i think i used to be but these days i partake in much more than just BL; lots of moe and SOL lately. although makopi is stirring up my enthusiasm again so i may re-enter fujoshi mode soon lol

u can talk about jackin to whatever u want far as im concerned as long as it aint gettin in the way of important conversations about rtk and matt

>>21824744
ブラン　ａ　ＢＥＳＴ

How important is it to learn how to draw kanji? If you know how to read them surely you can approximate a shitty drawing of them in a pinch right?

>>21824849
ask urself this
do u need to draw kanji
do u want to draw kanji
then become fluent or at least competent and consider learning to draw kanji after

>>21824773
どういたしまして～w

ok i just uploaded a few pics here https://imgur.com/a/KbfZ0ay
as you can see the anthologies are like actual novels, not manga. for me getting through them has been a little challenging at some parts, but rewarding! i'm sure they'd be a piece of cake for you (if you were to ever read them or something similar) とにかく、 enjoy the pics :)

I regret clicking that link

>>21824882
lmaooooo. did u scroll to the bottom

this is pretty interesting from a mining perspective. yaoi is prolly using different words in more different settings so it might be worth the time to read through some of these

lmfao at the thought of someone who isnt into yaoi reading yaoi cuz they gotta collect em all
qm are u the master or not

>>21824744
What the fuck am I reading

whats recommended for listening from the cornucopia??

need something for 20-30 minute bike rides.

I won't read shit I am repulsed by to collect words
besides I doubt yaoi shit has any specialized vocabulary I don't know what this idea is that it would have some kind of special words

>>21824929
just download an audio book

actually don't listen to anything while you are on your bike that's dangerous

>>21824930
do you know how to say "stimulate the prostate" in nihongo

>>21824936
前立腺を刺激する? I had 前立腺 in my old mining deck before I deleted it

>>21824925
i was gonna try to respond and gave up
>>21824930
theres probably a lot of creative speech for describing nikubou momimomi that only partially overlaps with ur heterosexual content

besides you know how to say it in English and I doubt you've ever read any homoerotic literature

Christ I need more high level Japanese chuuni shit like Thunderbolt Fantasy or Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu

https://streamable.com/unhfz

This shit is just so fucking good I can't get enough of it. What are more shows like this?

>>21824931
so none of that crap in there is useful?

if i download an audiobook and don't know a word, what do?

>>21824991
only recourse is to open ur window and jump out of it

>final master thesis feedback meeting in an hour and a half
sweating atm

>>21824991
I mean I don’t know you can probably listen to some learning resources made for retards where Mary and Takeshi go buy a pair of shoes or something equally mind boggingly boring but I doubt that is time well spent
if you don’t understand something ignore it, if you are getting the gist that’s fine

>>21824991
u should probably get started reading or watching anime while using a dictionary before u try to fuckin pimsleur urself into nihongo while u ride ur bike
when u have some of the absolute basics down from exposure u might have an easier time with some of the doujin onsei shit than an actual audiobook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOPTVBFpgM
yosh, time for late 90s OVAs

>>21825007
>>21825015
i've got decent basics down, just want to improve vocab to chat with people and prepare for an upcoming trip

Can someone tell me what the actual use or colloquial meaning for オートクチュール推し is. All I keep getting is Haute Couture but that either doesn't seem right, or they use it in sort of a different context/meaning.

>>21824972
VNs

when youre feeling down about your progress just remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_3oxD5dDSw

when ur feelin down about ur progress just remember this language is fuckin ez

>>21824385
Good for you, be lower than a dog and use the hands

シャドウミストレスになりたい

>>21824972
Better start reading eroge or LNs otherwise you're going to run out of fun shit to do in japanese very quickly lmao. Try this https://vndb.org/v183 it's by the same guy who wrote thunderbolt fantasy

>>21825187
シャミ先となりたい

一番強い外人になりたい

>>21825233
一番はやい外人になりたい

>>21824719
my ニガー

what's your favourite 食虫植物

>>21823953
These threads have been utterly ruined buy subhuman shitters like quizmaster, jamalfan, other namefags, tripfags and faggots who talk like niggers in retarded ebonics. 1500 posts and not a single quality one.
I remember when these threads were actually useful and not populated with self-promoting, ego stroking, circlejerking subhuman Reddit rejects. What's worse is that other people start aping them, making a proper discourse impossible
It's kind of sad, I rarely come here anymore. It's always the same with these creatures; a couple worthless subhumans show up and start shitting up and ruining everything for an entire community. Once everything is in shambless these good for nothing, failed abortions move onto the next thing to ruin and destroy, like parasitic locusts.

>>21825313
>I remember when these threads were actually useful
ｌｍふぁお
if u want to talk about somethin other than rtk or matt i wont stop u bud

>>21824929
listening to things you don't understand is a waste of time
so, anything in the library which is at your level is the answer

if there's nothing there then turn an anime you've watched with english or japanese subs into an mp3 file and listen to that
or you could use some retardedly easy language learning cd like the ones from genki

>>21825313
>I remember when these threads were actually useful
I'm trying to make use of it to help me figure out what I'm pretty sure is some kind of elaborate portmanteau about otaku and urges. >>21825065

>>21825332
>portmanteau
Doesn't that just refer to somebody who's a fan/supporter of Haute Couture? Is there some context that makes that not make sense?

手足口病

>>21825313
Imagine thinking that the kiddy pool shouldn't be full of piss and dirty band-aids. These threads were never good. Once you know how to immerse and aren't completely fucking terrible at the language, leave djt behind like a sane person and enjoy learning Japanese. Go, before it's too late.

>>21825354
The larger context of it is from a sentence about achieving your maximum potential as an otaku.

>>21825313
it's just a fun shitposting thread related to a hobby, why do people get this fucking assblasted about it? if you think you need a forum or thread or any sort of community to actually learn the language then kys
>oh no, you're shitposting and having fun on 4chan, FUCK YOU
lmao

maybe the /int/ djt is more your speed

>>21825388
this thread wouldn't have any guides or resources to have as a focal point for the community aspect all general threads require
he's right: you're just parasites who have latched onto something people worked hard to create only to push them away and leave the thread to rot

>>21825379
Could it just be referring to otaku that are into specific fashion things as an example or something? Still hard to tell what's wrong without seeing the text or knowing anything about the characters or story.

>>21825402
>this thread wouldn't have any guides or resources
i dont give a fuck if it has it or doesnt

also both of you are completely full of shit. any time someone posts a legit question they get multiple legit responses. some sort of weird victim complex going on.

>>21825411
Here you go: 世のオタクの何パーセントが、自分の理想を完全に叶えた推し…オートクチュール推しに出会えるんだろう。私は恵まれたオタクだ。

>>21825379
post the context then, noones gonna figure out some specific usage for you

>>21823616
Is it ok for a native to comment?

Howdy:) so I’m Japanese. I just found this place yesterday and I commented on quite a few posts so far. But i just now realised that that may not be so welcomed cuz people can also learn Japanese by commenting or thinking about answers to a question and I’m taking away those opportunities. I also really don’t wanna sound condescending or critical so I end up putting a lot of this :) at the end of sentences.

I’m actually struggling a little bit with job hunting so it was nice to feel useful to someone hehe and I might’ve gone overboard and commented too much.

So thats my concern right now:)

Anyway, I wish yall good luck with learning!! 頑張ってね ;)

>>21825313
>>21825402
Just stop asking stupid fucking questions, and learn to read more.
With what more do you need help with? Someone to hold your hand when you encounter a new words

>>21825447
are (you)s really this pleasurable for you?

>>21825447
yea this is a reddit post, good job

>>21823828
How can he lack so much self awareness?

>>21825377
if ur sane u might not make it but overall what ur tryin to say is good

>>21825420
it's using 推し as a noun referring to one of their "favs" > "how many otaku get to meet the "fav" that fulfills all their ideals? their "haute couture" fav (ie the luxury fav), i am that blessed otaku"

>>21825474
Hm, thanks. I'm still not sure what they meant in that context because that fav is completely unspecified/unknown in the wider conversation, but I guess.

>>21824744
Literally just grind this game out. That's what I did and it hasn't been a week yet. Grind category one at a time and then when you feel you're good enough in that category, test yourself with all the kana you currently know
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html

>>21825465
He almost certainly has assburgers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome#Characteristics

>>21825482
? i just googled it and it's from a tweet.. it's just a fancy way of the writer saying "i met my fav idol" without them saying who their fav idol is...

>>21825491
Figured it was something along those lines.

>>21825497
no you didn't you thought it was "from a sentence about achieving your maximum potential as an otaku" ?

>>21825505
After anon gave his help in identifying the noun use, I mean.

Yeah I didn't know 推し was used like that either. I thought it was just added to the end of the person or thing you are a supporter of, which made that sentence confusing for me too. Good to know.

>>21823712
>"Koe-bay dæs"
Fuck man this kills me every single time. He HAS to be taking the piss, this is exactly the voice I make when I do the baka gaijin accent.

>>21825579
nah, i think there are just people who end up with really bad accents like this, probably because they just don't give a shit and never made any effort to practice correct pronunciation

i've seen videos of people speaking other languages like this where it literally sounds like they're just speaking english while using words i've never heard before

see also the hoard of indian call centre staff who can technically speak english but who are completely unintelligible because their accents are so bad

How does khazumoto feel about matt basically taking his idea and making money off of it, even making his own version so he can take full credit for it?

>>21825604
probably doesn't matter to him cuz khatz can just work a real job and get way more money than matt

>>21825604
he probably doesn't give a shit because he makes 6 figures anyway

>>21825616
>>21825617
real shit?

>>21825364
めっちゃはやってる

>>21824972
lol @ using the word chuuni to describe those ur such a nooblet its too much ahaha

>>21825313
lol

>>21823828
Seems like his vowels slightly deviate towards his native accent but that's about it. He's obviously not a social butterfly, it doesn't take very long to realise that while you stare at his pasty face in his videos, and it wouldn't be a surprise at all if he had aspergers syndrome. Aspergers doesn't make you socially crippled, it makes you socially challenged. If he has aspergers he's doing a good job minimising his awkwardness.

>>21825680
>Seems like his vowels slightly deviate towards his native accent but that's about it
have you heard japanese spoken before or are you one of these read only no subvocalisation freaks

matto should join me and jamal on our nippon adventure, i believe we could cure his aspergers in a week

u can hang out w. matto ill be chillin w. barry and garry

>>21825604
He probably hates him. If you've ever read the AJATT site, you'll see that Khatz's way of thinking is the polar opposite of Matt's.

Khatz acknowledged that AJATT followers had a tendency to be cult like, and would occasionally jokingly refer to AJATT as "the AJATT cult", but he made it clear that he didn't like that sort of behavior and looked down on people who engaged in it. All the rigid "you must do this, this and this in this order and don't listen to anyone but me" shit that Matt espouses is exactly the sort of thing that Khatz warned people against. MIA is basically what happens when you take all the worst parts of AJATT and turn them into a "new" method. That's why Matt/MIA attracts such awful people.

There's a Streamable link floating around somewhere where Matt talks about how after he had a single conversation with Khatz, Khatz totally ghosted him.

im not gonna judge the mattards as people just gonna judge them on their japanese lol aint none of them learned it yet even yuki yuna guy posted at the start of this thread is better than every single mattard

the worst thing about this vn is looking at this fuckin kid and his elbowless arms

>>21825750
nice visual game

>>21825726
Damn, khatz is supposed ghosting matt like that.

I haven't looked much into either method I just know khatz clearly is a lot fucking better at japanese than matt

theres really no point in talking about khatz nemore hes gone from all this shit dude ofc hes better hes off livin his life while matt is a typical failure to launch child caught between his two gay dads

yuki yuna is kawaii but her anime sucks

wtf is yuki tuna and is it really syko jan

>乃

WTF japan???

>>21825447
>cuz
you aren't fooling anybody you mental ebonics nigger

>>21825773
u prolly just didnt understand it cuz u dont know japanese haha

>>21825760
this is my favorite moment so far i can relate

>>21825806
relax cuz

>>21825826
lol looks like a hoot

>>21825680
>he's doing a good job minimising his awkwardness
there's more to being an autist than just being "awkward". it's more like a total lack of understanding of social norms which matt demonstrates abundantly here by walking up to a group of strangers with a hidden camera and secretly recording them like a fucking weirdo. he then published the footage online demonstrating that he has no awareness that he did anything socially inappropriate here, and also no consideration for the people he secretly filmed.

if they realized what he was doing it would've been a very _awkward_ and uncomfortable exchange indeed

>>21825852
lol are you sure youre not the one with assbugers

>>21825857
go walk up to a group of strangers with a video camera and just start talking while recording them and see how they react

>>21825862
no

>>21825865
because you know they and everyone else watching will think you're a fucking freak and just want you to go away

mmmaaahhhh neehhhhh

>>21825862
he doesnt have to this guy already did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP5ZVPwP7bg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds

>>21824213
You stick to things in life because you build a habit. Will power is just an initiator. People who stick through RTK will have spent many of their first days barely wanting to do 1 hour, then many days later started finding 3 hours easy to keep up each day.

>>21825862
https://youtu.be/hYQXbmgC7AQ?t=34

>>21825879
>knocked him right out of his fuckin shoes

>>21825857
Why don't you see this guy in the park and laugh at him you scrawny bitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8FqG5DBM_o

>>21825852
>i dont actually go here LOL
>target acquired

>>21825916
honestly were lucky all he wanted to do was go annoy some japanese exchange students and not somethnig more sinister putting shit like that in his vid lol

Suppose a university student spends 10 hours a day immersing in their target language

Suppose the average learner spends an hour a day on duolingo

In 4 years that student graduates

=

It would take the average learner 40 years to accomplish the same amount of time

>>21825927
Most university students have more than one subject, you know.

>voluntarily crippling your nihongo studies by going to uni
lmao should have learned programming while still in high school

uni is all down time every day
getting a job is crippling

>>21825857
>>21825894
Oh you were saying that to someone who was talking shit, my bad

>>21825944
>uni is all down time every day
I honestly don't understand why anyone would want to go in debt for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCIwoadua-M#t=95

>>21825726
>>21825763
https://streamable.com/hlr5f

>>21825870
Well I, for one, love Surveillance Camera Man, even if all those people he filmed hate him

>>21825986
lol

>>21825966
that moshpit at the end lol

>>21825986
what did he say afterwards tho?

>>21825003
that went well, got the green light so I'm definitely getting my masters degree and I think I'll prolly get at least an 8 on the thesis itself based on the feedback so far.

>>21825986
one of the best clips in djt history in terms of content and timing

>>21826013
Good job nerd

おこづかいなくなった

ぜつぼう

>>21823642
Update: got frustrated with not being able to understand or learn anything from anime at all. I can go through yotsuba slowly with an OCR dictionary and learn things and follow the story but anime... wew. Some anon suggested ripping the audio to an MP3 player and just listening to the characters talk all day to accustom your ears to it. Currently doing that. Still only catch the most obvious single word sentences like おはよう！but I'm trying my best to discern the individual sounds/kana of the language.

if ur getting frustrated ur doing it wrong dude and what ur doing is never gonna work

if every single japanese thing u play with ur sitting there trying to observe the moment where u start understanding its never gonna fucken happen bird guy

>>21826057
Yotsuba is fun. You think I should hold off on anime if it's not fun right now?

if its not fun dont do it right now

if animes never fun ur prolly fucked tho

>>21826097
Anime is hella fun in English and one of the main reasons I'm learning. I assume it will be fun once I can actually understand some of what they're saying

>>21825726
matt said he thought his MIA members were getting too culty and he condemned the behavior and encouraged experimentation

>>21826003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr9ZHrsRi7A&t=29s

>>21826112
reading this post while imagining matt evading discord bans constantly saying "why u ban me" over and over lol

>>21826076
as long as u hear some shit sometimes or move towards the based medium of voiced eroge u wont fuck urself up too much and itll be way easier to get better at listening when u actually know some nihongo and are startin to build up vocabulary

f*ck ive been reading 一息吐く as ひといきはく this whole time

Coming in hot. We've got a confirmed パンツ sighting, my ダチs

>f*ck
what does this mean?

>>21826158
>>21823410

>oo kanna o tasukeru tame ni ?
what the fUCK

>>21826117
>Khatz lives in Canada with his girlfriend and never goes out or talks to any of his old friends anymore
Based Yandere-chan

>>21826178

>>21826117
>claims khatz fucked up pitch accent
I'm confused, is this matt being retarded or is he actually right?

Besides that, he makes khatz out to be an dumb awful person which idk if I want to entirely believe other than khatz trying to make a bunch of money

>>21826194
https://youtu.be/5DdqJAYrvfI

>>21826191
ero game anime adaptation never

>>21826194
>which idk if I want to entirely believe
lol dumbass

lmfao we got a voice changer its gettin real now

Congratulate me

>>21826202
so matt is actually retarded.

>>21826236
wow very cool anon! when are you going to start acquiring the language?

>>21826202
>>21826239
no. kaz also nitpicked matt's jikoshokai video when matt didn't know pitch accent. i haven't seen matt comment on his nitpick video in particular since improving his pitch accent but he has stated that in retrospect his speaking was god awful in the jikoshokai video. so kaz is just being nice.

>>21826239
how is that not obvious?

>>21826191
lmfao

>>21826242
Well I know 1000 words and I add 20 each day, I'm already doing it

>>21826236
idiot

>the one kind of audio content you're interested in (gaming podcast) doesn't have a transcript
i fucking hate how it's either audiobooks, anime, or nothing.

>>21826255

I'm argentinian so my japanese accent is naturally perfect

You jelly, american pigs?

>>21826262
https://youtu.be/Fv-wC64rqyo?t=7446

>>21826266
I'm being harsh but come on, why not go learn japanese instead of torturing yourself with anki

>>21826274
>My skin is the color of runny diarrhea
nah senpai

>>21826047
what anime did you do? i recommend mitsuboshi colors frequently. you can slow down the audio on daiweed and animelon. alternatively you can try a vn thats simple like hanahira. just going off my own experience, having voiced content be your first foray into nihongo makes it a lot easier.

lmfao if hanahira kills the bird

>>21826047
Animelon Kiniro Moisaic

If you can't understand kiniro mosaic you're ngmi

thats all for this week

the hispanics who think their accent is perfect are hilarious to me cuz i know how they sound and it's just as bad as an american or british speaking japanese

just assembled my new pc :)

>>21826274
No because I can have a shit accent and still have japanese crowd around me because i'm a tall white blonde american

>>21826308
>>21826297
I was watching One Punch Man. I'll check out those two anime.

>>21826305
Never done a VN and have no interest to so...

>>21826274
that's what spanish speakers always say yet i don't think the equivalent of a dogen or matt exists so i think your advantage is almost nonexistent

cuz u dont need to be a retard to learn spanish u just do it and move on lol

even rurityan knows spanish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHIrqy_jZc

>>21826412
no i mean that there is no spanish speaking native who is a guru at japanese like dogen or matt

how do i get quizmaster to respect me even though i'm an n5 shitter and a NEET?

>>21826423
do u browse the spanish nihongo learning communities

>>21826412
nigga cant even comprehend english yet wants to learn another language lol

>>21826428
no i'm just using 105 IQ intuition

>>21826427
impossible qm doesnt even respect himself lmfao

>>21826423
well seemingly its cuz native spanish speakers arent retarded and just learn japanese and also move on lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GR65JzuPDc#t=247

>>21826434
loooooool

>>21826436
lol holy shit his japanese sounds spanish as fuck

>>21826436
doesn't sound japanese even a little bit

>>21826445
but it sounds like he knows japanese to me who cares if he sounds like a foreigner when thats exactly what he is ?

>>21826451
but the context of this conversation is spanish speakers bragging about how their vowels are similar to japanese you dork

>>21826451
i don't care either but the other guy was talking about how hispanics get a native japanese accent by default when it's just not true at all

if u cant trick foreigners into thinking ur a native over a voice call for at least 10 minutes ur amateur hour
now back to my passive immersion capsule

>>21826454
>>21826455
i dont read what u knuckleheads post most of the time dude sounds like a bad convo

just look at this guy and ask urself why isnt this u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8a3o2CN0ig

>>21826460
that would be me if i lived in japan

>>21826460
post something else unrelated to the original point and i'll give you a swirly don't fuck with me

>>21826470
ok hows this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu5SX4AM2Ak

spanish ajatt that's epic

>>21826473
nice sentence translation cards

what a surprise even native spanish ikemans realize the importantence of eng subs

>>21826328
cool what you got anon

was it simply a lack of resources that caused germany to start losing more battles after stalingrad or had soviet soldiers and commanders improved to the point that they were tactically superior?

>>21826507
1060 6gb, ryzen 2600, b450 gaming plus and 8gb of ram. pretty budget but im happy with it. i mostly play csgo anyways

>>21826308
>Kiniro Moisaic
Ok this is the cutest damn thing I've ever seen. Really like it, and it's insanely simple

didnt khatz scam a whole bunch of people out of $1500

>>21826571
don't know don't care haha suckers

>>21826571
tell me more

My burner email is still receiving emails from khatz

going to start trying to speedrun my reps because anki sucks

>>21826543
the cutest

damn at least one guy responded to my quality post

>>21826625

no shit name one japanese guru who isn't a conman can't wait for mat's pitch accent course even though that nigger should work on his pronunciation instead of larping about pitch

>>21826625
Did you get the one Matt talked about from some time in 2016 where he was offering consultations at extortionate prices?

Matt only mentioned that the lowest tier, messaging him on Skype (text only), cost $200, but he didn't say how much time that $200 bought you and didn't disclose any of the other price tiers.

>>21826741
tae kim

asking ur dad for $200 cuz u need it to try to become friends with the guy who u owe for telling u that ull get better at nihongo if u read and watch things in nihongo

Just starting out using this epwing2anki thing, should I add any 'epwing' dictionaries to it or is it fine as it comes? Any fun tips?

how do people even do ajatt? dont they have other interests/hobbies? i struggle to get my 2-3 hours per day of nihongo in cause there's other stuff i wanna do

>>21826808
it was probably easy because he could just ask each dad for 100 bucks separately

>>21826776
not sure, I might have deleted one like that straightaway

>>21826816
please think of the people who have no things to do, you privileged shit

>>21826817
u think having that conversation twice for $100 is easier than just askin for the $200 in one go

>>21826826
none of my hobbies involve other people or money

>>21826808
he probably paid way more than $200

matt said the prices were ridiculous, meanwhile he himself on his own patreon page has a $100 tier which buys you an measly hour of his time once per month

if matt doesn't find his own pricing extortionate then i can't imagine that $200 bought you an entire week of khatz's time

>>21826828
2 dads = more money
1 dad = less money
2 moms= no money
1 mom = less money

wait so the only qualification you need for people to pay you 100 bucks an hour is to be fluent in japanese?

>>21826834
i remember him sayin he went for the lowest tier and didnt re-up when his time was done
i think it was like 30 minutes a day for a week or somethin i aint watchin the video again
he did try to chat up khatz after though like hey we really hit it off im out of money but can we still be friends
>>21826843
2 conversations = double shame
im just sayin dont do it separately get em both together at once

What if language learning is dependent on your conciousness mind's writing speed or bandwidth, on how fast writing is done to the part in the brain that is for language. So the speed on how that happens decides how fast you learn, so input 24/7 might just be as good as 2 hours a day depending on that speed, or 24/7 output where only 2 hours a day can be written but not on a daily basis but on a weekly basis instead. I felt that after 5-8 days unkown knowledge got unlocked as if it had been written, but not all knowledge that I had consumed. So all those ajjatters doing 24/7 input 90% might just be discarded as their bandwidth can't keep up. So in 2 years doing 24/7 they are just as good as the average person that reads 2 hours and listens 1 hour a day for 2 years. Comparing myself to those ajjatters that have done 18/24 months I feel that this is the case for me personally as I never did 24/7 and can read just as much as they can.

>>21826860
i seem to remember that he said he bought a week's worth of the lowest tier
rather than he bought the lowest tier, which lasted a week

i don't remember him mentioning 30 minutes anywhere

>>21826812
Why does epwing2anki dictionary fail with even it's own sample list?

>>21826872
why do you fail at life?

>>21826867
good reddit post, you forgot the spacing though

>>21826812
>>21826872
is the point of this program that it generates cards from a column of words in a text file or spreadsheet?

>>21826884
Pretty much yeah.

>>21826871
well im sure it was sessions it wasnt 24/7 for the week can u imagine what a kid like matt would do to maximize his time lmfao oh khatz do u need to sleep ok ill sleep at the same time so we can talk 18 hours again tomorrow about the optimal flash card layout

>>21826867
nice brain fanfic but if anything the way it works is more like cluster computing with tens if not hundreds of thousands of mini computers all chiming in as necessary to add to the always in progress operation that is ur "mind"

>>21826872
>import this output into anki
>anki fucks the import and now I have to manually add in the rest of the fields or someshit that should have automagically worked

oh god what the fuck?

being a flashtard should be a bannable offense

Is this translation correct at all? I can't figure out how it could be but maybe I'm just missing something.

>>21826872
cuz no one can into computer codes theyre more fuckin impossible than japanese
why are u using edict wheres my core daijirin djt needs core daijirin

>>21826900
>why are u using edict

this is what comes with epwing

>>21826899
szs is not for babies

>>21826903
there are like 40 epwings in the djt library

I have come to the conclusion that I'm legitimately too unintelligent to learn japanese.

>>21826930
prob same but im still readin every day lol

wtf is epwing to anki pls tell me you guys aren't importing dictionaries into anki

>>21826899
no that's not what the japanese says

>>21826930
>being dumber than 120 million japs

>>21824972
Jeez I could tell this was Urobochi just from the dialogue. Guy needs to switch it up.

>>21826930
good, now you can start acquiring it

>>21826899
yeah it's more like "getting a cavity in Finland as form of study abroad"

>>21826939
It's the most efficient way to make cards to expand my vocab. You think I'm gonna make all those cards by hand?! Idiot

>>21826939
core fCUKING DAIJIRIN
nuke wont have the last laugh with core35k
make it happen

>>21826891
that's why the 情意フィルター part of krashen's hypothesis is so important despite often being overlooked

is core35k a meme or a real thing

>>21826959
It's a meme but you should make it a real thing.

english subs really do cripple your understanding since the people subbing don't actually know japanese

considering there are actually Anki decks for DOJG, is Core Daijirin even that big of a surprise?

Somebody finna do Core大辞典?

1st for
> fuck RTK

core daijirin is a bit much cuz it's basically an encyclopedia with some dictionary entries. maybe a smaller dictionary like an elementary or middle schooler dictionary would be better cuz those are around 30-40k words which is what you really need

>>21826970
dojg doesn't have that many entries though

watching anime raw gives a very different experience than watching while reading english subtitles

>>21826930
there are 60iq mongols currently listening to japanese with 99% listening comprehension

>>21826891
yes but the speed on which language processing happens is limited to bandwith so just because its active doesn't mean its working efficiently. ajatters doing 24/7 input is not being proccessed and not saved since bandwith is limited this is why my progress at 2 years while not spending as much time as them my level of understanding of input is better or the same level

>>21826930
in maths i ran circles around the other kids
my vocab retention in jp makes me feel lobotomized

half of that shou-shi-jou-ou stuff my head doesn't even register as words - just random noise

>>21826985
No you're the same level because so called "AJATTers" are retards like Calvin that log their daily 0.01 minutes of immersion and then twitter post with #MIApproach

>>21826939
>wtf is epwing to anki pls tell me you guys aren't importing dictionaries into anki

Knowledge retention.

Please don't tell me you're actually going to the effort of looking up words in dictionaries and not recording/adding them to something like anki along with the definition you want..

Doing it this way can read content I enjoy AND test myself on it the next day before I start reading even newer content I enjoy.

>>21826998
have you tried just feeling it

>>21826985
ur flawed from the start ur brain is not a disk there is no bandwidth there is no io bus there is no memory bus and there isnt even a cpu

if u wanna understand how the "progress" works and why it takes time its the same as developing muscles u cant just get ripped instantly it takes time and as muhc as i hate to say it cuz ppl around these parts really fuck this up but it takes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RoKsza70EM#t=119

anki sucks and you should all stop using it and i say this is an anki addict

>tfw struggling with anki
>take advice and just read more instead of repping and adding new card
>come back to anki a week later and the reps are trivial
wtf, is Anki useless?

>>21827027
it's a supplement. the cherry on top of the dessert

anki is a lot more fun and productive than reading.

>>21826956
but that shit is dumb as fuck

>>21827020
just make your cards word on front reading on the back, that's it. no definitions
and only add words you've seen at least twice

if u wanna learn japanese look no further

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nbY1QXQNGQ#t=115

>>21827048
...how? its the same reason he talks about compelling input. what do you think compelling means?

>>21827050
This. Works great for words like ペラペラ. I have 100% retention rate on them

>>21826999
matt was listening 24h and reading alot a day, that brittvsjapan was also listening 24h and reading 80 pages a day. kinnniku ninja was maybe not as dedicated, and anime godfather is unfortunately just spending time on learning theory. so keyfigures of comparison are matt, khatzz and brittvsjapan. however if I compare myself to khatzz at 2 years there's a huge difference, which was like matt at 4 years.

>>21827018
its not bandwith as in internet bandwith just terms that could work somewhat like what I meant which is the speed of communication between the three minds unconciousness, subconsciousness and consciousness and maybe allocating space for learning the language and setting the priority and affinity. also you can get jacked in a couple of weeks by use of the right steroids look up tren or go to /fit/

yall obsessin over a hypothesis (something anyone can make up) that hasnt been proven in over 40 years lmfao

i cant believe u tried to @ me again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2WljxChU8U

>>21827065
grow up

khatz also did like 50 anki cards a day so he was progressing at 5x the speed as matt

>>21826959
>>21826967
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/889433079
my b it was core36k
>>21826977
no cuz the point is to take it as far as u can go
and also make it monolingual while ur at it