/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Playing this. Honestly, Astral Air and Hoshimemo are better when you just individually look at their common route or other routes. Those games fall apart as a package though, especially because of the hilariously terrible main heroines that aren't even there most of the time.

Irotori no Sekai is a lot worse when it comes to group dynamics and the likes. In fact, the writer doesn't even really do group dynamics. Every character has a link towards the protagonist, but pretty much no link to any other character. Given how important the surrounding field of a character is, to give them depth and development, that's biting the game in its ass pretty hard. The redhead feels like lowest tier of otaku-bait, while the others are okay. Except the protag, who is kept dumb for padding reasons. Gets a little too much after some time. Why would a dumb nut like this guy be relied on, like ever? Well, padding. And I suppose Shinku telling him what to do all the damn time salvaging things.
When the common route finally starts to do something, it's so abrupt and comes way too deep out of the ass, simply because the writer thought it's a good idea to do 10 hours of nothing before. Doesn't work. The Shinku stuff towards the end of common also felt pretty dumb, mostly thanks to the protagonist and writing again.

But hey, at least this time the main heroine isn't terrible. Sure, a large part of her being best girl is because there's literally no competition in the game, but whatsoever. I'm going to try one route, and if that's not changing my mind, I'll probably never see Shinku's route. Route enforcement, yay.

>>21676623
WTF is up with this guy's posture?

>>21676623
https://twitter.com/web_marmalade/status/1149277048159928320

Okay, ですろり is peak doujin kino.

>>21678297
Now I'm considering whether or not I should start playing 二章 right now.

一章 was really good. Interesting characters, brutal fights, cool twists.

Marmalade did it again, Study Steady delayed again until September!

http://www.web-marmalade.com/img/other/sts_txt2.gif

Excuse: ton of work with "lovely call" function (hello, hibiki works) and animation. Second time. Eeh...

I understand everything, but... Marmalade, seriously? Why you can't manage normally your schedule every time?

Wow, somebody is actually playing obscure games shared here. I'm shocked.

>>21678401
Give it a try too.

It reminds of Durarara. Not as far as content goes, but in the style of storytelling. You have various people belonging to various competing groups and the point of view shifts between them.

The theme of 一章 is indeed チカラ and the exploration of its forms, like its title says. Not in some philosophical sense though. You simply have physically powerful characters fighting, weaker characters scheming and it all gets mashed together. The fights feel unique in how the author focuses on the descriptions of the physicality of attacks and wounds characters get - meat and bones sticking out everywhere, fluids spilling all around. I was hooked since the end of 1話 and even more so in 4話 and 5話.

For 一章 I played the version from here https://kokoron.madoka.org/mirror/D/mechanical-girl.html cause it's voiced. Technically the game's pretty rough, even if it uses Kirikiri.

>>21678457
For posterity, here's the version with 二章 and a bit of 三章.
https://mega.nz/#!wNgHUa6S!TCLeR7AhAQTSTJc05g688PJ4gh6m_umPlM9HKcfmYx0

Apply this patch to it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120729201800/http://www.mechanical-girl.sakura.ne.jp/arisamapacho3.lzh

Unlike the 一章 on Kokoron, it's all unvoiced.

>>21678490
Do you have a mega for 一章? The kokoron link seems to be down for me.

>>21678522
Not Mega, but Zippy's generally been good to me too.
https://www97.zippyshare.com/v/oIUp85q0/file.html

Anon was not joking about Apeiria being fucking long, 10 hours read so far and have not even seen the OP video yet.

How good are the yoake mae yori games compared to other august games?
Are they worth playing? Do they have an interesting story or just SoL/romance stuff?

>>21677375
If you're just trying one route, make sure it's Mio or Kana

>>21679633
Pretty boring in my opinion.

I've been trying to read Custom Cute but it just gives me a blackscreen after showing the logo and a glimpse of the start menu. Any help?

Guys, that's maybe offtopic, but can you please say how can I sell DL cards of content (maybe, digitally) through Japan? Yahoo Auctions, I think, requires Japanese mobile number, Buyee I don't know, Surugaya too... Any ideas? Thank you!

If you could only recommend one title out of the past 5 years, which title would it be?

Apparently Gnosia for the Vita is pretty amazing. The Fata Morgana writer was gushing over it just a while ago. Anybody here read it?
Don't know why they'd make it a Vita exclusive, though.

>>21680773
I tried, but it wasn't meant to be.

Don't die.

>>21683874
It's on nopaystation so you can pirate it too (min fw 3.69). I haven't read it though.

>>21682799
Fly out to 秋葉 and set up a makeshift shop there. People will stop by just for the "gaijin exotic value" you provide.

The PC Engine Mini Japanese version has Tokimeki Memorial as an exclusive game. It was replaced with a shooter for the western versions. Snatcher is also included but is the Japanese version across all regions. They're selling it through Amazon first during Prime day.

>>21687421
Who cares, Use Mednafen to play any and all PCE games.

>>21677375
Skip the side heroines and just do Shinku. Then tell me whether it made sense so I can do the same when I get to that game.

>>21688185
It probably works about as well, as it would to play something like Hapymaher like that. That said, my problems with the game aren't heroine related. I wouldn't enjoy Shinku's route either, so there's no point.

>>21677375
I did all the heroines including Shinku and trust me she is a good girl and all but the final route wasn't worth it for me and I'm easy to please.

>>21687421
Apparently there is no Snatcher undub so just gave up and started playing the Sega CD version

>>21689967
Maybe fuck off from this thread, EOP.

>>21683874
Are there any other Vita exclusive VNs worth reading? I want to try and get them all before NPS inevitably gets shut down.

>>21683048
Naturally 素晴らしき日々。

>see eroge on steam
>check out which developer
>search for them on vndb and find the game I'm interested in
>download the raw game from sukebei
>play and enjoy without having to pay a single penny

>>21690596

>>21690596
Who said this?

>>21690596
thanks for killing the industry

>>21690596
Is self quoting the equivalent of Japanese talking in the third person about oneself?

I never expect to come to the age where people discovers eroge through steam

>>21691576
He's a subhuman EOP.

Is mikocon down for anyone else?

Hmm, downloading from DMM bypassing password is difficult, right?

https://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/serial/plan_0008/

But I didn't see that anyone sell that DLC, it's not leaked. It's after stories of Alice from Primal Hearts 2 (Marmalade). Maybe, anyone have it? Thanks!

>>21692747
Displays an empty white screen for me.

>>21693556
Dude, just accept that eroge DLCs getting shared are a rarity. Nobody buys games here and original uploaders don't care about DLC. If you really want it so bad, oraganize an effort to buy these games and secure the DLC. Go check 2dkf, they have it: https://2dkf.com/read.php?tid=694581

Does anyone have the crack for Axanael?

>>21694718
Try using google.

>>21694718
This one was really easy to find, because I know Japanese.
https://ux.getuploader.com/ryuwgo/download/6/アザナエルぱっち.zip

First apply the game's 1.10 patch. Even you should be able to find it, it's on the game's official site.

This reminds me I've been wanting to play Kusarihime for like ten years. Maybe I should admit I'm a mentally ill weeb and learn Japanese after all.

>>21693556
I have it, but it will take me awhile to upload it to mega
wait a little bit :^)

>>21694815

Yes, I already have the 1.10 patch. My efforts with google were turning up a lot of dead links, but as you say, improving my Japanese will make that easier in future.

Condescension aside, thank you very much. Much appreciated.

>>21694822
First de-trans yourself.

>>21694899
Np, bro. I wanted to make it clear what you have to do and it seems you understood.

So I decided to play Eden. Still at the very beginning.

>>21695654
Damn it looks so fucking shit

>>21694884
>:^)
What is this expression trying to convey?

I dont think I can get through Kadenz Fermata.
Its just pure shit and I hate the story telling.
Whats the next best chuunige.
I have read the standard translated stuff and the first fortissimo.

How did they get away with this?
I thought otakus were pretty sensitive when it come to things that happend only in the real world like being rejected.

>>21699108
That's nothing. Sukisuki, an extremely cutesy game, has a rejection scene where the girl literally laughs in MC's face.

>>21699554
To be fair, you have to try incredibly hard to even get that ending, as in, fuck up everything you could have fucked up.

>>21699832
Sounds like the typical オタク.

>>21699108
I mean that's a hypnosis nukige, that kind of thing is expected there.

>>21699108
What's up with influx of normalfags who think they know anything about otakus lately? Do you even know the name of the board you're on?

>>21697712
The only good one I've read so far is the first Fortissimo. Everything else was pretty much crap. Though I obviously haven't read them all, or rather I haven't read that many thanks to the generally questionable quality.
Japan seems to like the 0 risk "you already know the outcome when the arc starts" drama, where ultimately nothing really happens anyway. I don't. Or at least otherwise I'd have a hard time seeing why something like Gensou no Idea could be considered good, where the outcome is always obvious and the good guys never even really do anything, as enemies tend to just give up, suicide or I don't even know. Kinda hilarious, but it doesn't want to be that.

>>21697712
Dies irae

PxH2 - Alicetia After
#!CiJ3XCiC!syZQj7NH74krNMbpPTo6ibarFo8O7amkOpWsp7FR090

>>21701936
Thanks, brehster.

Does anyone have this?
痴態姦賞～放課後のチャイムはショーの始まり～

>>21701936
Thank you so much, also, one Japanese guy gave me password from DMM, I downloaded it too!

I also see DLC for that game https://vndb.org/v17826 - and I'm afraid I need to buy it, but I don't want to buy for full price :(

Anyone on this?

>>21705604
まあまあ

>>21705604
The only thing I can say so far is that I loved the opening.
Also since I enjoyed gantz so much I love the concept.

>>21705604
It was meh

>>21705866
Sad to hear that. As the other anon mentioned, the concept sounds very interesting. Not that I won't try for myself of course.

Damn, the OP for ラブ撮りハレーション really wasn't what I expected.

>>21705604
Had to pause it around 60-70%, but I did enjoy it so far. Still planning on finishing my it when I have the time.

https://vndb.org/v24110

anybody looking forward to/interested in this?

>>21706864
no

>>21706864
Sure, Kinugasa might be shit at writing endings but I like his MCs.

>>21706878
Reading something solely for MC is ultra gay.

Any recommendation for beginner in Japanese? I'm looking for relatively easy to read vn. I have a graphical tablet and want to write anything that I don't know\understand, and it probably would be everything, in google translate.

>>21707032
The setting sounds pretty cool as well, sounds somewhat similar to the currently airing Cop craft which i'm enjoying so far

>>21707059
Ask djt

Guys, maybe, someone have soundtrack from Offikano by Pulltop Latte?

http://web.archive.org/web/20170404024321/http://pulltop-latte.jp/PL05/DLCP.html

It's a shit that it was available only for 1 month... I asked some Japanese players in Twitter, but they don't want to share it with me. Fuck.

>>21707059
1. Fuck off.
2. Using Google Translate is retarded. Well, so are you, so I guess it fits that you want to use it.

>2dkf down
>A-S down
It's over, the chinks won.

>>21682799
Just buy a Japanese phone number or SIM card

>>21708356
Should have learned Chinese instead of Japanese.

>>21708730
Ching chóng zûo dòng to you too, my Chinese friend.

>>21708356
Why would you just come on the internet and tell lies?

>>21708925
2dkf is still down for me

>>21708936
They had some DNS issues or something and it's now under a different address. Time to brush up your baidu-fu.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18Xlievh4Fw2xi09y8tWc-GIvkYhBwojTXI8e2CJ6BwU/
If you noticed any kamige I missed, could you mention them here? I think this is pretty comprehensive for objective kamige but I'll throw any candidates I potentially missed into the 神ゲー率調査中 box for an eventual bonus stage selection.

Especially looking for candidates in the doujin and gameplay categories since I think Baldr Force, CyberRebeat, etc are somewhat weak links. (Warning that no Softhouse Chara game is kamige and so on, I'm not looking for mediocre 良作-at-best stuff here)

Why is the protagonist of Summer pockets dropping such cringy chunni lines right off the bat, jesus christ

>>21705604
it's next on my list... looking forward to it.

>>21709353
Have you considered not having autism?

>>21706878
Reading the trial and it's funny as fuck, the girls are cool too so I think it's not the only reason.

>>21709353
>I'm not looking for mediocre 良作-at-best stuff here
I mean the majority of stuff on that list is that. It's kind of comical to have Muramasa on the same list as Gore Screaming Show and Supreme Candy. Either filter out all the latter games and make it an actual kamige list, or define your criteria better.

>>21709353
What's the point? To make a nice list and get upvotes on /r/visualnovels?

>>21709353
>objective kamige
What does this mean?

>>21709353
Have you considered curing your autism and realizing that even a single game can be a 神ゲー in multiple distinct ways? What's even the point of this epic list if it doesn't elucidate that?

>>21709353
Why not adding more Metawo stuff in this list?

>>21709353
素晴らしき日々。Colloquially known as Subahibi or スば日々。

>>21709353
去人たち

>>21709353
That list is so meh. Especially the gameplay category, but that one is admittedly hard. It'd probably be easier to entirely scrap that one. Delivering both a good story and good gameplay is very hard. It's usually either or. Though you even list stuff that's not good in any of those categories...

Do yourself a favor and at least remove ruitomo though.

>>21711806
That's not Wittgenstein...

>>21711912
>It's usually neither nor.
ftfy

Yuzusoft's next project when? I got bored rereading Riddle Jokers for the xth time

>>21709353
>objective kamige
Really makes me think.

>>21711939
I don't know man. Looks like Wittgenstein to me. I don't think Ravel would lie about this.

>>21712195
Who even cares? It's not going to be an objective kamige anyway.

>>21709581
do his summer pockets have summer spaghetti in them?

>>21711912
That would imply that good story is the only thing aside from good gameplay that matters in defining whether or not the game is 神ゲー or not, which isn't true. As /ourguy/ said,
>本当にシナリオだけを求めるならば、小説を読んだ方が良いに決まってます。
All these cartel shitters with mangled westener brains should follow it and fuck off from this medium entirely.

>>21712520
>>本当にシナリオだけを求めるならば、小説を読んだ方が良いに決まってます。
Based on higher-level Japanese 武士道 thought.

>>21712520
>baaah you can only enjoy things my way!

>>21712681
who said this?

>>21712681
Who are you greening?

>>21712688
>>21712689
(You)

>>21712695
I never said this, but sure, I'll give a handout to mentally ill brainlet and pretend those were my words.

What's hilarious is that you cartel shitters have no problem with shitting on everyone who doesn't enjoy things your way, but the moment someone turns the tables, you get ultra defensive and butthurt.

>>21712728
what the fuck is a cartel shitter, you sound like you have some mental problems to resolve my dude

>>21712735
>what the fuck is a cartel shitter
see the guy who made the list and two names he dropped in >>21709353, that should give you a good example

>>21709353
Is this legitimate or is it some sort of mental illness I've never heard of before?

>>21712769
Yeah, it's called "hadler's tadpoles infestation in the brain"

>>21712520
I've played way too many games, and I don't think I've ever seen a single case, where both parts are really good. The best you can hope for is that whatever didn't get much attention by the dev is at least not annoying.

Also story and gameplay are just general ways to call these categories. It doesn't actually mean "plot" and "battles" or whatever. Gameplay includes things like how the menus are, how the loading times are, balance, music during gameplay and all that kinda stuff. Story includes characters, voice-acting, music usage during cutscenes and all that kinda stuff. That SHOULD be obvious, but alas.

>>21709353
The guy you posted in this image and the eroge writers you mention wouldn't want to be disgraced like that. Please consider removing this image and the list. And while you're at it, please consider removing yourself too.

>>21712802
That's called "production values", idiot.

>>21712802
>but alas.
1.5/10, trying too hard to be literary. I thought this to be an obvious faux pas, but alas.

>>21712802
you're deluded if you think that is "obvious" because no one goes by your weird ass definition of gameplay or story. most things you listed are related to ui/production values

>>21712802
Also, funny how you didn't mention quality of ero and/or romance. Because that's cancer that is killing the industry since early 90s, amirite?

>>21712860
Not to mention quality of action scenes, quality of chants and quality of mysterious foreshadowing. What an amateur.

>>21712802
>>21712860
>>21712883
I personally consider the author's intentions to be more important than any of this.

>>21713005
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author

I opened the thread, saw 23 replies and wondered what happened.

And of course it was fucking autism and newfags.

>>21713010
>French
Was it the intention of the author to make me immediately want to ignore this idea?

>>21713005
This. I respect author's intentions. That's why when he openly establishes that the player and the protagonist of his story are the same entity, I take that role and play it, instead of wondering whether or not I'm "selling myself too high".

>newfags
Even any random newfag in this thread would be elligible to shit down your throat, as he's infinitely more respectable than some random retard trying to compile a ""list of objective 神ゲー"".

For: 21713015
So much this, dude! Fuck these unphilosophical newfags... Literally speaking...
-lights up a cigarette-

>>21713056
>>21713073
You fucking retards, I'm not the list fag, he's among the autists.

You're fucking braindead for even replying to pointless shit like that. Learn Japanese and post about games, you subhumans.

>>21712836
So, you say things you encounter during gameplay aren't gameplay related and shouldn't be talked about there? Meaning you say this is possible to say: Great gameplay, with slow and sluggish menus, awful controls, awful music you need to mute.

Okay. I mean if that makes you happy, okay. I disagree with that though. Everything you encounter during gameplay is part of gameplay. That's like so obvious I really shouldn't have to explain this. Same for VN parts.

>>21713130
>Everything you encounter during gameplay is part of gameplay.
Cool. So since you're technically playing the videogame even every world you read is technically also part of the gameplay. Nice.....

>>21713130
there is nothing to disagree on you braindead retard lmao
music isn't gameplay, period. it adds to the feel and atmosphere of the game, but it isn't gameplay. there is no player interaction towards the music. gameplay = player input

eroge attracts some real pea brains doesn't it

Well at least this is better than those arguments about "self inserting" we had recently.

>>21713401
There isn't anything to even argue about on that topic. Player = player's character. Regardless of how they act, sound or look. (You) take their role. That's how video games are intended to be played. Period. End of discussion.

>>21713436
ever17

>>21713436
virgin

>>21713446
Pretentious kusoge that has no business being a game. See >>21712520, that line is from e17 review.
>>21713447
Non-virgin.

>>21713436
No. I always consider myself an invisible force leading the protagonist.

That's why I can select the girl in some games. I like the idea of leading a cute girl.

>>21713612
I can also take on a role of a cute girl. Now what?

Newton and future radio writer talks about his experience in Anime Expo this year
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9dZ-XqNHo
We all looked like disgusting gaijin wreebs to him

>>21713436
Not really.
Take the Tales of Xillia 1&2 MC dynamic. In 1 you can choose the character to play as but at its core the author meant them to be just vehicles the player drives. They werent player characters but playable characters just like any of the other party members. Then you have the sequel where the director admitted the formula the main series has used up to that point excluded the player, which is why Xillia 2 was made and the MC was silent with dialogue choices as his only dialogue because he is the player= player character.

Thats why VNs arent self insert medium unless they add things like a silent protag (Not having VA doesnt counts) or being nameable/unnamed.
If you self insert into those non avatar VNs that just means you are desperate for attention so you recluse yourself and play mental gymnastics to self insert into characters you arent meant to.

>>21713690
I mean he is not wrong there. Have you seen those conventions? Only soys and fat balding men and landwhales in there.

>>21713718
Oh no, it's that braindead ESL again. Fuck off already, idiot.

>>21713625
Yeah, but you do it in a gay way. I don't.

>>21713690
Post time stamp.

>>21713718
>unless they add things like a silent protag
Are you legitimately this fucking brain-damaged that you _desperately_ need a silent POV in order to strongly identify with (or self-insert into) that POV? I guess not everyone can continue meaningfully developing their empathy skills beyond early childhood.
>self insert into characters you arent meant to
How do you _know_ that you "arent meant to" self-insert into them?

>>21713760
The only two situations I consider gay are
- when I'm a guy and fuck the other guy
- when I'm a guy and get fucked by the other guy or a futa

All other situations are not gay. So yeah, when I self insert as the girl, I actually have zero chances of encountering gay situation, which makes it safer.

>>21713736
No i wont. Its already tiring reading you people spout shit you obviously have no idea about but i wont stand for that.

>>21713770
Are you that desperate that you self insert into anything because your life is so devoidof any human interaction and affection? Seek help man,.
Empathy doesnt equal self insertion. You can connect with someone but that isnt self insertion at all.

>How do you _know_ that you "arent meant to" self-insert into them?
Silent/unnamed/nameable protagonists require a lot of work arounds that could had been easily avoided by just lettting the protag talk/have a set name. But these devs add them because they want you to self insert into them. Thats the sign of a dev wanting you to project yourself on the character because the character is meant to be you.

>>21713798
What if you fuck another girl or get fucked by another girl while self-inserting?

>>21713831
Gayer than getting fucked by another guy as a guy.

>>21713831
Obviously, not gay. It's guy on girl, what's so gay about that?
>>21713829
Braindead ESL turned out to be a subhuman normalfag, who would've thought.

>>21713846
Touched a nerve?

>>21713855
Not really. It's just very tiring when normalfags invade /jp/ - Otaku Culture and shit on the floor thinking this is their home.

> But these devs add them because they want you to self insert into them. Thats the sign of a dev wanting you to project yourself on the character because the character is meant to be you.
Nah, they add them because APPARENTLY there are a lot of idiots like you with zero empathy skills who need shitty crutches to do something every healthy kid past the age of 5 can do on his own.

Wow, some of you take things too seriously.
>>21711659
That's true, and is actually why I'm recruiting more recs - I legitimately can't think of anything else.

That said, the two you listed are exceptions. Stage 5 is intentionally "not kamige but close to it" since GSS is a legendary and worthwhile game even if in it's not amazing in reality. Supreme Candy is just a meme part of the Scaji Showdown, I know the games in that stage aren't kamige.
>>21711750
That's why I have a variety of games on there from a variety of genres.
>>21711755
I was to some degree trying to minimize repetition between writers - There's only one Sakurai game there, one Mareni, etc. This contrasts with the "comprehensive" but I gave a shoutout for the other sakurai/Mareni games in the honorable mentions section. (and it's better than having a Mareni section with 8 Mareni games)
>>21711912
The gameplay section is definitely hard and one of the ones I most want recommendations for. Well, I'm playing Re;Lord halfway for my bro, but Baldr Force and maybe VBL could go - I've played a large number of gameplay kamige (e.g. Rance series) so my options were limited. Same for the doujin section.

But anyway, if the list is "so meh", surely you have some recommendations, right? I'm all ears. Ruitomo though, I'm not sure, Hino is confirmed kamige writer and a lot of my friends attest to it + the FD rocking their absolute worlds.
>>21712802
Play 新説魔法少女
>>21712818
To be real, Yang Wen-li and the authors here wouldn't give a fuck about the list.

>>21713917
>Play 新説魔法少女

But it says that children are our future and we have to care about them. That's problematic.

Wait, that was Tobiden. Well, whatever.

>>21713936
I appreciate your knowledge of the Lore
I still find it funny that Moogy didn't like that theme when it's like, objectively true, given how time and biology works. Oh well.

>>21713954
That was Kastel though. He didn't like it cause he's a tranny and will be forever childless.

>>21713906
I love otaku culture. My point isnt agaisnt self inserting but with people that think just because they self insert into everything then every nonsense they spew about self insertion holds any weight. Manchilds like you ruin otaku culture with your retardation derived from regretting not being a normalfag.

>>21713965
Nah, I was watching Moogy stream it and he echoed the sentiment

>>21713978
I guess he's trannying out too.

>>21713977
I never wanted to be a normalfag though. Stop projecting.

>>21713978
>I was watching Moogy stream it
Do you really have no better use of your time?

>>21714029
I really, I really like Tobiden. It's my favourite JRPG by a fair margin.

>Wow, some of you take things too seriously.
same old argument, huh

>>21713936
>>21713954
>>21713965
>>21713978
>>21713980
>>21714029
>Kastrel
>Moogy
Whom?

>>21713977
You're unable to actually read and fully understand the points people are trying to make. I'm starting to believe that you might have some form of literal brain damage.

>>21713917
>That said, the two you listed are exceptions. Stage 5 is intentionally "not kamige but close to it" since GSS is a legendary and worthwhile game even if in it's not amazing in reality
There's more than just those two though, and what makes something "legendary" to you seems very arbitrary. Demonbane not only has a higher vote count than it, it's also rated higher. Nitroplus is also more respected in general. So it wins in both plain number popularity and perceived goodness.
Anyways, for other games that are kamige to a lot of people/rated highly on EGS: ISLAND, Dies/other Masada, Harukuru/Natsukuru, Konnyaku/Parfait/Damekoi/WA2, Rewrite, Crescendo, Extravaganza/MinDead (both of these are better received than GSS), Ayakashibito/Evolimit, Gunjou, Katahane, at least one game by Hiruta Masato, YU-NO, Kira Kira. Danganronpa V3 if that counts.

>>21714029
>moogy
Do you really have no better use of your time?

>>21714112
Moogy is one of the pioneers of the western eroge scene, for a long time he was a kamige influencer which meant anything he read and liked was to be considered a kamige (at least in the west)

>>21714112
I assume he/she is an eroge maker.
>>21714134
>kamige to a lot of people
You're missing the point. We only acknowledge objective kamige around here.

>>21714139
>anything he read and liked was to be considered a kamige
Huh... Didn't realize I was such an influential figure in the wider Eroge community. Good to know. I never went by the moniker "Moogy" though.

>>21714146
>I assume he/she is an eroge maker.
What language does he/she write in then? If it's anything other than Japanese you can fuck right off to some other board.
>>21714139
>western eroge scene
So un-untranslated eroges? Why is he being dicussed on a エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General?

Why do people pretend to be retarded? It's just so tiresome.

The started good, with posts about games, but then you idiots crawled out.

>>21714134
Unfortunately, being translated makes Demonbane take -5 kamige points.

I also may not have made this clear enough (i.e. it's at the bottom of the chart) but I'm not including kamige I've played, which excludes Rewrite, Dies, YU-NO etc etc etc. Parfait, Crescendo, and Extravaganza are solid suggestions though, thanks.

>>21709353
Is this some kind of retarded attempt at "deep" satire? Why is this list namedropping random nicknames?

>>21714187
Could be some former EOP Redditor trying to make an epic list for epic upvotes.

>>21714163
>The started good
What started good?

>>21714233
Thread.

>>21714124
I mean, every single one of those idiots with 2 braincells saying retarded pretentious shit has brain damage. I'm starting to wonder, who has more accumulated brain damage, >>21713829 or >>21709353>>21713917

I never knew that this thread hated kamige so much. Explains all the moege I guess.

>>21714255
The guy who self inserts and reads Yuzusoft games, definitely.

>>21714286
The problem is that you're a tard from Reddit.

>>21714298
I self insert and play Alicesoft games, now what?

>>21714315
You self-insert as the rapist, or do you self-insert something up your ass? No homo.

>>21714377
As a rapist, of course.

I self-insert as the self-inserter.

>>21714490
Please don't insert yourself into my ass, thanks.

>>21714286
Kamige discussions are dumb because it's a non serious term originally and discussions about it by people who take it too seriously often devolve into what the fuck is a kamige anyway and what e-celeb has the authority to decide them.

>>21714805
As the originator of the term, that is not true. It was always a serious term for serious discussions.

Anyone know what happened to https://bbs.kfacg.com/ ? Suddenly stopped responding.

>>21713690
He should have talked about his inability to write a decent scenario instead, that might have been more interesting.

>>21713436
This. What a stupid 'argument' you guys are having in the first place what happened to /vn/?

Butts are the best.

Topkek
What the fuck happened here

Just the occasional DJT raid

>>21678366
>>21677943
Holy shit. Tell me how this isn't a dead industry?

>>21716911
https://www.kfgal.com/

>>21719633
How does one company having shit management signal the death of the industry? It's not like delays are anything new for Marmalade and there are plenty of other companies out there releasing shit on time.

>>21719633
Delays have always been a thing in the eroge industry and they're so common they're a running in-joke between fans and creators.

>>21676623
ErogameScape is usually only accessible by Japanese IP addresses, but every now and then it becomes available to foreign IP addresses too for a while.

Is there any sort of pattern or schedule to this or is it just totally random?

>>21722957
It seems to be random, but when it's blocked it behaves just like a firewall dropping is incoming packages.

As far as I know the owner (hiroin) literally runs it from a shitty computer at his home, so spam traffic can fuck his home connection up so he probably deals it with some software that adds entire IP ranges to the firewall whenever there's suspicious activity/spam/DDoS attacks, which means that unrelated people in that range will be affected. It most probably removes them after some cool down period, since people say that they can access it after some time again. This is all a guess though.

>>21723341
Really? I would've thought he could afford a proper host with all the ads.

Weird how nobody has bothered to create a mirror of it anyway. Fortunately some pages are archived on archive.org at least, but obviously none of the search functions work there which kind of sucks.

>>21723381
You can Tweet to hiroin (@hiro_in) and ask him to whitelist your IP, use Google Translate which serves as a proxy, or use egs.omaera.org which is also a proxy.

>>21722957
Never blocked in my shithole

>>21723398
>or use egs.omaera.org which is also a proxy.
Thanks for this. Not sure I really want Google having a log of all my eroge interests.

It's a shame VNDB doesn't take some inspiration from EGS though. The way tags(/POVs) are able to be contributed alongside a comment explaining how exactly that tag(/POV) pertains to the game is really useful. That said, this still wouldn't fix possibly the biggest problem with VNDB, which is that the weighting system on the ratings doesn't take into account whether or not something has been translated, so most untranslated works get their scores absolutely decimated in the search results.

On EGS at least, you know that all the ratings are based on the original Japanese version of the game and not on potentially very shitty translations (or worse yet, fucking machine translations... apparently there are also people on VNDB who rate games after only looking at the CG sets without ever having actually played them).

>>21723438
VNDB is crap full of EOPs reading with machine translations etc. Trust nothing you see there.

>>21723438
I don't care about the ratings personally, but the admins on there are a bit too autistic about what's allowed on the site and what isn't, with arbitrary rules that seemingly change every day. Just allow all eroge like EGS and don't play dumb games like "it has to have 36.5637% of narration to pass as a VN". Not to mention they play favorites and have a bunch of translated RPGs on there anyway like https://vndb.org/v17046 because it's popular with EOPs. But if you dare to put an untranslated eroge RPG on there you can be sure it's going to be deleted within the hour.

>>21723438
The ratings on vndb are actually usually fine for untranslated works, but you can only search for the bayesian rating, which obviously works really badly if there are only 10 votes or something.

>>21723505
There's no % rule. The rules are actually pretty simple:
-The main reason to play the game has to be reading the story (thus no gacha for example)
-There needs to be consistently narration if there's gameplay (thus no typical rpgs)

There are plenty of games that shouldn't be there, which is explained with "it'd be more of a hassle to remove them than to leave them", but this part is definitely questionable. I'm sure everyone however has some games they'd rather not want to kiss good bye though, because technically several Rance games, Eushully games and so on would be disqualified.
That said, keep in mind that vndb is NOT about eroge. It's about visual novels and isn't focused on ero featuring works. They do this shit precisely because of that. They don't want Persona, Final Fantasy and co there. EGS is extremely inconsistent there. You have some Persona games actually right there, while others don't get added. Heck, someone even added an Etrian X entry that nobody uses. In other words, it's fine because people don't care enough there. What do you think would happen to vndb, if they'd allow everything?

For vndb to be less bitchy, there'd need to be a rpgdb as good as vndb. People simply really like what vndb offers and want everything they care about there. That's good and bad though.

>>21723697
>That said, keep in mind that vndb is NOT about eroge
Yeah and I think that's dumb. They care too much about staying true to the sites name, and too little about logical functionality. I don't think triple A RPGs should be on either site, but VNs/dlsite games fanbases tend to overlap a lot so it just makes sense to put them together. There really isn't any negatives to having more games on the site. As you said, there already are a million exceptions (and for some reason the exceptions are skewed towards translated games) so it all feels very arbitrary. There ARE gacha phone games with only dialogue on the site even.

>>21723697
>That said, keep in mind that vndb is NOT about eroge. It's about visual novels
"Visual novels" is an incredibly shitty term that died in Japan completely over a decade ago. Only EOP prude shitters afraid of the word "ero" still use it.

>>21723761
Then what do they call non-ero VNs?

>>21723838
ADV.

>>21723438
Do you know an elegant way to get a list of all egs games containing specified keyword in a POV comment? I tried using google for this, but it didn't work out all that well.

>>21723838
They use 美少女ゲーム a lot for a more general term that includes both.

>>21723866
Are otome VNs 美少女ゲーム?

>>21723871
No, they're 美少年ゲーム. It's extremely obvious.

>>21723871
Who cares about otome?

>>21723866
>>21723878
What about visual novels that don't have obvious sexualization of one gender in particular?

>>21723866
>>21723838
>>21723871
Also　恋愛ゲーム, though I'm not sure where the line is drawn between linear stories and dating simulators

>>21723907
name one

>>21723907
>>21723841

>>21723917
Little Busters

>>21723917
You need to play less moege. There are so damn many games out there that fit this. Anything Liar Soft basically, Umineko, Higurashi and whatnot, tons of doujin works..

>>21723996
https://vndb.org/r541

>>21724143
Way to COMPLETELY miss the point of the question. I expected no less from r07 shitter. Go back to your woodworks.

>>21722957
Here's a proxy site for those with a blocked IP:
https://egs.jiatai.io/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/

>>21724171
Then explain your point and don't just act high and mighty like a moron.

Guys, remember Wagahigh won 2016 Moe Award? I was very interested in Madosoft comment here http://moe-gameaward.com/prize/2016/gp.html#p01 . They said that product "consumes and then forgotten".
So, they answered to all those haters who argued about that?

>>21724504
Leave, EOP.

>>21723438
The weighted ranking is pretty annoying, I know that it's necessar.
But it's just complete cancer for eroge without a translation,since no one on vndb bothers to rank/read them.

>>21723438
VNDB is much better as just a database, I would rather tell EGS to take inspiration from VNDB because the site design is so shitty

Hey, I'm new to VNs and how to get them. I want to get a copy of Air from Key in Japanese, but it's not on Nyaa and that's really all I know. I know it's customary to tell people to fuck off, but I'd really like to be able to play it. Could you give me some hints as to where to find a place to get it? Thanks!

>>21727367
Hello, friend.

On Anime-Sharing, there's an uploader called Ataraxia. He's been inactive for years, but his uploads on Depositfiles have survived to this day.

Among them is Air Standard Edition with voices patched in. All in Japanese, of course.

That's what I'd get.

>>21727367
Anime-Sharing and Crane Anime if torrents are dead. Crane uploads to mega and google drive, so it's usually the more comfortable way to download stuff.

Any good console exclusive VNs on the PS Vita? I just finished Utawarerumono series and it was way better than I expected

Guys, you know site where users leaking new CG from eroge console versions? Thanks

>>21729799
SEAbro, give this a try:
>Do you know a site where users leak (upload) new CGs from the console versions of eroge?

And sorry, I don't. But I presume it'll be some Chinese eroge forum.

>>21729799
Pretty sure nobody gives a shit about those when there's a PC version with porn. If you mean console exclusives nobody does it probably because there are no tools for those. Sadpanda, 2djgame and 9moe aka 2dkf are only places I know that deal with CGs.

>>21727367
>>21729799
Fuck off

So Giga announced their new kiss series game that will release this year.

was pic related designed by fucking Masamune kun's Revenge light novel artist?
She looks perfect.

Guys, anyone played Wizards Complex by Windmill Oasis? https://vndb.org/v18477
I just saw bad reviews on Amazon store page. Seems like people expected pure love moe story, and got depressive game with difficult relations between people. Very interesting... Is it strange Japanese audience or I get something wrong?
Windmill survived after that game and released Happiness 2 (sub-brand Oasis, I mean). But after 3 years only.

>>21731034
That's the game that was written by the Nekonade guy who is the only second guy to use philosophy in his game beside Scaji. I loved the Nekonade series so I was curious about this game and checked the trail version but nothing really stood out, it was your average moege, so I lost internet and never played it. I should had more faith into the writer, I'll check this game again now.

>>21731068
There's two writers. And the other one wrote awful things like that ninja cat game and whatnot. There's going to be a good amount of influence of that, given that one 2 routes are written by the Nekonade guy. (based on EGS)

can you guys learn english

>>21730900
She needs anal.

>>21731068
>who is the only second guy to use philosophy in his game beside Scaji
Is this a serious post or is there some kind of deeper irony I'm missing?

>>21731034
Leave, ESL.

>>21731034
>Guys, anyone played Wizards Complex by Windmill Oasis?
No. I prefer avoiding pseudo-intellectual garbage.

>>21731631
t. guy who reads smee games on release

>>21731267
nein

>>21731636
>t.
What is this pseudo-intellectual syntax? Use proper English.

>>21731068
Very sad you lost internet, sincerely hope you get over it.

>>21731068
Nekonade might very well be the most insightful and life-changing work I've ever read from all of fiction. I highly recommend reading Wizards Complex by Windmill Oasis too.

>>21731631
What's an eroge for true intellectuals?

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v14922

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v20763

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v21176

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v2236

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v5392

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v2046

>>21731618
>>21731677
Fuck you haters, I enjoy it.

>>21732968
I'd probably enjoy it too if I was still 13. I was a pseudo-intellectual "cringelord" back then, as young people say.

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v19090

>>21731894
https://vndb.org/v22345

>>21720535
Thank you!

>announced 2019/5/1
https://project-navel.com/shuffle_ep2/

Damn, I had completely missed that. Now I'm hype. I loved Shuffle! way back so I'm certainly checking it out release. I might wait before starting tsuki ni yorisou otome after all.

>>21733993
The guy behind Shuffle is dead. Whatever happens to that name has no relation to it. Other than the name I guess.

>>21731941
>https://vndb.org/v21176
This is mind blowing. Could you recommend more games or link your list or something?

anyone here regularly use dlsite/dmm/digiket? wondering if the latter 2 ever give out coupons, dlsite gave out a 15% off coupon last month and just gave out another which expires in a day or so which surprised me because i recall them giving them out much more rarely and with smaller discounts

also i think all 3 sites have summer sales on now, dmm has both eiyuu senki games with a huge discount including a code or something for their mobage

I want something brain-meltingly cute, stupid and harmless that will let me forget the stresses of work and my shit life. The VN equivalent of CGDCT anime. Absolute moeshit moege. What would you recommend in the past couple years? Ero not required, and may actually be a negative.

>>21735493
青い空のカミュ

https://twitter.com/Heliodor_info/status/1152858443792842752
You think there's any chance a chink could be in that 150? Being able to pirate it faster than the official release would be hilarious.

>>21735684
Lucky guys.

>>21734930
I just registered a few days for the sale on dlsite, to get some strawberry bose stuff, and the mail with the coupon I just got (valid for only 3 days, 300yen discount) says it's because I bought stuff. So maybe they give coupons more commonly when you buy things, to buy more. This really looks like that at least.

>>21736151
>they give coupons more commonly when you buy things, to buy more
yes this tactic is common especially in japan in particular with the points system, though beware it looks like you don't get points from purchases made with coupons. that's why i'm wondering about dmm and digiket, i've been with digiket for months and they haven't sent me anything

also is there a minimum purchase on your 300 yen off coupon?

>>21736326
I don't use DMM much for eroge but rather monthly eromanga issues and I don't recall ever getting a coupon, at most random sales campaigns and point multiplier campaigns.

>>21735684
I don't think an uploader would risk outing themselves like that.

>>21735493
Nanatsuiro Drops. It's probably the most pure and wholesome eroge I've played.

>>21735684
I don't the game would sell more than 1k, 15% is a big chance

>>21735684
>Being able to pirate it faster than the official release would be hilarious.
If pirates wanted to, they could already do this with all of Lune's titles. If you buy from their site, they ship them early and you get them a day or two before the release date.

>>21735684
That's like someone apologizing to you because they accidentally gave you money. I mean, the 150 people are probably celebrating.

https://vndb.org/v23448.25

Is the game actually that long? That's pretty insane for a linear game, almost SakuUta tier.

>>21740515
Nah. DJT EOPs just read slow.

>>21740515
It's not a linear game. And if that's measured correctly, then yeah, it's pretty long.

>>21740519
That has absolutely nothing to do with kb count.

>>21740515
Seems like a deep game. That length wouldn't surprise me at all.

>>21740515
use vndb for tags and maybe staff and everything else you can safely ignore including ratings, game length, and descriptions. and anyone who brings up text as kb probably doesn't understand jp anyway so you can safely ignore them too. you can use EGS if you really need length estimates

>>21740678
What does that even mean? Script sizes are objective and a lot better than using EGS's length estimates by random people who only do one route and consider a game done.

>>21740678
>brings up text as kb probably doesn't understand jp anyway
I like how you make everything you say completely invalid like that. Even the industry uses kb for scriptsize, newfriend.

>>21705604
Oh well. I guess it was fun while it lasted. It got silly pretty fast.

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask but, what text hooker should I try to use with PC98?

>>21740686
in most cases there's only 2 ways to grab the script which is either from the game files or from hook software and you can make all the excuses you want but i don't have to explain the implications of the latter, right? so lets focus on the game files. not all games have the text in a raw format and sometimes have things like names or game engine script included and you'll have to go out of your way to remove all that. even if you have a raw script, not all lines are created equal and if you have a game with 30 hscenes and half of them are "ahn...... ahn...... ahn......" you'll probably read through those much faster than normal lines

>>21740716
>Even the industry uses kb for scriptsize
even then it's pretty rare for that to be publicly disclosed and you can't tell me they aren't using bloated numbers including ellipses and shit

>>21740856
Learn Japanese.

>>21740857
That's a very, very weak argument. The things you listed make up an error variable of a few percentage at the very most. Whether a script is exactly down to the byte 2,441MB or with some minor errors 2,5MB hardly matters at the end of the day and is still far more accurate than any other way of measuring. I expected a bit more after you sounding so cocky.

>>21740896
i just don't care enough to write a huge essay on this subject but i say this as someone who has looked at many game scripts. but i can simplify this for even further, there's only 2 types of faggots that care about script sizes that post in this thread, the first is what this anon >>21740519 brought up, and the second are e-celebs. rhetorically speaking, which one are you?

>>21740936
>i just don't care enough to write a huge essay on this subject
There is nothing to write about because you're wrong and have too fragile of an ego to admit it. Which is proven correct by you running away from the argument and instead are trying to attack people personally.

Whenever this thread starts being somewhat active it just ends up being 2-3 autists being austitic over a pointless subject.

At least this time its not about self inserting, i guess.

Don't forget the fourth guy coming in to write a meta reply about the quality of the thread contributing nothing.

>>21740984
Just say it outright that you want to be autistic over self inserting, autist.

>>21741005
Self inserting is the only correct way to experience eroge. There is no room for discussion.

>>21740856
Learn Japanese.

>>21741014
Good. Thought you were that braindead ESL for a moment.

>>21740872
Nah
>>21741034
No

>>21741037
ask djt or Reddit.

>>21740856
There is a modified version of neko project that is hookable with ITHVNR. np21ht.exe. Google it.

>>21740532
I have no way to measure it but going by pure feel AmaGure felt slightly longer than average but not even close to SakuUta, so I'd say it's not being measured in the same way.

>>21736326
A bit late, but I just used the coupon. Seems like it's valid 3 days from when you trigger it. Probably a certain grace period at least, after they sent the mail. (I wanted to check that) It didn't say anything about a minimum purchase.

The point thing might just mean, that you don't get points for the 300 yen you get discounted, but not sure. Would make sense, as points are based around what you pay. But as far as I get it, you only get points once you actually write a review, and I doubt I'll do that. I bought too much and don't even know when to play this shit, and you only have a good month or so to do it. Got mostly rpgs (3 from strawberry bose, and 3 from others) and 4 short little doujin all-ages vns. Honestly, you can get so much for 5k yen during a sale like this. (and I even have one game among it that wasn't cheaper..) Without the sale and coupons, I wouldn't even get the 3 strawberry bose games for that money. Not sure why they made the current main-sale so long though.

Why didn't you play Asuka's game yet?

>>21729372
Net High, Ciel Nosurge and Punchline (watch the anime first).

>>21740856
I'm curious, how do people like you play the console VN's?

>>21743414
>people
Isn't that a bit too generous?

>>21743414
>console VN's
Why would I want to play a gimped all ages version of a VN?

>>21743454
I've found that I long since moved on from this sort of mentality I used to have when I was constantly horny and a teenager. These days I don't mind either, though I sometimes get an urge to skip H so I can get back to the story.

>>21742288
Why does this "あすか" not have a cameltoe?

>>21743466
It's the opposite for me. When I was "constantly horny and a teenager", I didn't mind all-ages games, now I'm a literal impotent and won't touch all-ages.

>>21743466
It's not just the h-scenes, console versions remove all sorts of sexual references and adult themes to get past CERO, and now it's even worse because of Sony, you'd have to be a retard to willingly play a censored version like that.

>>21743532
Last console VN I played that also has a PC version (technically) would be the Uta 1 remake and the sexual references are still there. Pretty much all the stuff leading to H is also still there, except the H itself is a black screen time skip though the lead up to it leaves no question as to what happened.

Now I'm sure what you said can be applied to some of them, but don't talk as if it's an absolute truth.

>>21743414
How are those relevant to this エロゲ thread?

Do all Hulotte games give masturbation scenes to all the main heroines? I don't like seeing them getting satisfied without me.

>>21743587
Most people play all ages too. Just last year these threads were full of Summer Pockets discussion when it came out.

>>21743487
She's on her period so it's padded.

I'm trying to run 姉ちゃんのススメ and nothing is happening. If I run it with locale emulator, I get this error, and if I click Yes, it does indeed make the background task, it it is suspended. Any ideas?

>>21744111
No problem for me
Just set your system locale as Japanese

>>21744111
Why would you use a locale emulator?

>>21744111
Did you download 3GB full size game?
I remember downloaded a version with 1 GB and same problem happened.

>>21743747
You gay?

>>21744579
No, I just fap to traps but only 2d. It's not gay.

>>21744579
I like masturbation scenes like Tamamo's extra from Daito where you actually catch her doing it and it leads to sex, but doing it entirely from the girls perspective feels wrong.

>>21743414
Like usual. It's just you have to mess with dictionary on tablet figuring out words by reading or drawing kanji which is more cumbersome than having everything ready at your fingertips in parser on PC.

>>21744709
>by reading
Reading? God forbid you have to do that.

>>21743747
You'll love Hanasaki Workspring's dildo scene

>>21744940
Do people still hold grudges against that scene after all these years?
Jesus.

>>21743747
So with girls do they have to throw away the used panties after every successful masturbation? Seems awfully inefficient.

>>21744965
What happened?

>>21745467
Life.

New

>>21745989