/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21604951
>D/a/ily
Good times.

WATCH JAV FOR IMMERSION & MOTIVATION!

>listen to the first 5 lines of shingeki no kyojin
>"I can't understand most of this"
>read it
>understand it all
;LADKJSF;LAKJSDF;LAKJS;FLKJASDP;FLKJAS D;FLKJAIC;FLJW

>>21605042
Anyone have subs for terrace house season 5 and up?

>>21605042
>read it
Manga is not reading.

>>21605061
i didn't say anything about the manga. i'm talking about the subtitles. which you'd probably consider the same but get your facts straight faggo

should have been reading visual novels then your listening would have been on par

>>21605071
i did, didn't do anything

>>21605064
Subtitles isn't reading either.

read over 100 pages of manga today

>>21605085
>read
End your life.

gonna read more manga

Going to masturbate to more eroges

Am I the only one who think that reading manga is harder than light novels or visual novels ? It's fuckin hard to cbeck words you don't know and the style can be weird sometimes

>>21605119
Yeah. I can read VNs fine, but with Manga I start one and after a few pages I want to drop it. I've read barely a few chapters of manga in years. Looking up words sucks.

wish i was a sick programmer so i could make a daiweeb equivalent for manga or at least some way to use yomichan on it

sometimes i feel like the fact that i did traditional RTK was such a huge waste of time but then i remember pic related and feel a bit relieved.

>>21605155
Someone already did, I think, but didn't share the code.

>>21604855
>i'm saying why do you care how little kids go through public education when you're an adult?
the people i was replying to said “only stupid gayjin keep track of kanji”
the only reason i brought up the japanese education system was to correct their blatant ignorance.
>there are plenty of foreigner adults who learn how to read japanese by.... reading
and i never claimed otherwise...? but that being said the tracking system doesn’t exist just for reading but also so they can focus on learning how to write them and test that writing ability in a systematic way

>>21605157
It's nice knowing that RTKfags are also furfags.

>>21605119
>>21605126
>>21605155
So you guys basically don't know about KanjiTomo uh ?

>>21605171
Kanjitomo fucking sucks though

>>21605119
It's fuckin hard to cbeck words you don't know
how?
>>21605126
pussies lol
i've been reading manga since i started
over 50 volumes now
i'm glad i didn't spoil myself with addiction to text hookers like you guys
manual lookups builds character. and also gives you chances to recall other words with the same kanji and get faster at typing in japanese in general

>>21605177
>manual lookups builds character.
lmao i cant even, god you're such a pathetic fuckin loser

>>21605192
it was a fucking joke/hyperbole lol
how socially inept do you have to be to take everything you read on 4chan that seriously

Is there anyway to automatically make Anki cards with audio from online dictionaries?

yomichan spammers all worked up and defensive

>>21605208
yomichan and ankiconnect

>>21605204
there is no such thing as hyperbole in this fucking thread you gaping asshole

>>21605218
you sound mentally challenged
diagnosed?

>>21605224
you're the retarded one if you don't think what i said is true

>>21605229
yeahh take a break from the internet for a while and work on getting that retardation checked out

guys when did you start reading? (LN/VN)
just want to check if I'm retarded

read instead of being meanies to each other

>>21605293
immediately after RTK.

what's with all the angry dickheads in here lately

>>21605298
when did you finish rtk?

>>21605296
what's this anime

>>21605293
had ~1000 words in core

>>21605318
知らないでもとても可愛いだ

fuck

daily reminder that learning japanese using japanese is ideal when you get to the level where it's possible
make the monolingual transition

lol u mad

>>21605293
after i'd already read 20 or so manga volumes
mostly slice of life moe girl shit

Doing RTK before learning vocabulary/grammar and consuming Japanese media is like reading the Pokédex before playing Pokémon.

>>21605318
>>21605348
Ok I looked it up for you and actually it's 灼熱の卓球娘. So basically I guess it's cute girls doing ping pong

>>21605356
i only read for a certain time period per day so if i spent more time reading definitions than the material i'm interested in then that would really suck. maybe 18+ months in i'll use japanese dictionaries.

i mean just use whatever makes most sense maybe a concept can be easily grasped with an english word or maybe a japanese explanation gives you a better idea of something or sometimes its better to google image search some stuff like nouns or certain verbs and colors

>>21605356
everything before that is the nightmare realm.. misserably slow and forced gains only
it's impressive babies make it through that

>>21605363
You definitely get some autistic level beneficial knowledge to the game

>>21605363
オッケー
ナイス

>>21605364
thanks

>helping a guy who namefags as moenigger

>Who are you quoting?

>>21605365
>if i spent more time reading definitions
if it takes you more than 4 seconds to read a 15 character definition then you're not ready for the monolingual transition anyway
>when you get to the level where it's possible

>>21605293
From day 1. I started doing about 30 min a day at the start. Now I'm always reading something through out the day.

>>21605367
this is true but monolingual transition doesn't have to mean all monolingual all the time
just means you default to the J to J dictionary before the english one
if the monolingual def is dumb/too complicated THEN you fall back on the secondary resources of which the J-E is now one of

man, imagine reading a vn from start to finish and barely having to look up any words...

>>21605439
how do the wizards itt reach that level it's crazy

>>21605439
1 word every 5 minutes or less is my goal
technically i've already achieved that sometimes
but there are times it's every 30 seconds or more.
it really depends on the LN and the scene

>>21605439
it'll be a glorious day when i reach that point

either that or it'll feel like nothing at all

>>21605451
>it'll be a glorious day when i reach that point
>either that or it'll feel like nothing at all
do you currently set small goals for yourself and get excited when you achieve them?
if not then it will feel like nothing.

>>21605439
this is my ultimate goal, as everyone here I guess, just like watching animes without subtitle or reading light novel without checking a single word but I started japanese because of all the great visual novel without translations

>>21605469
not really, i just consume media and go about my day after im done

>>21605435
>default to the J to J dictionary before the english one
Exactly. Depends what I'm reading but yea I keep in it monolingual until I start to run into too many unfamiliar words and for the sake of boredom I'll switch to english to speed it up. Also I like the fact that you can look up words from the definition entries with the j to j dict in kindle. Really helps to keep you in monolingual.

having an episode of anime i already watched (all or partially) playing in the background while i'm on DJT is one of the best things i've started doing
i still don't count it into my daily study time but i can feel the 利益

>>21605476
ok then it will feel like nothing lol

>>21605480
placebo

>>21605496
obecalp

呼び捨てはよくないわ、後輩

さて本番に入ろうか

つまらない夢を抱く君は

read a whole chapter of manga before sleeping because you have to relax and do non-reading sometimes too !

>>21605539
what manga did you read

>>21605560
I'm reading Pokemon manga (Red Chapters) so far so good, always heard that the manga was better than the anime and that the thematics were more mature. The language is still simple tho and it's kind of encouraging to realize that I don't really have to check most words.It's really relaxing !

" こっちの水は甘い"
Where does this come from and what does it mean? I heard this in a few different songs now and apparently there is also a manga called こっちの水は甘いのだ
Is it like a figure of speech?

>>21605634
must be what killua says when he transmutes water for the first time

>>21604951
oh no don't tell me sakura autist is back

>>21605293
5ish months after I decided to learn japanese

>>21605293
>VN
Day 1 and it was hard at first but I was understanding quite a lot towards the end (after 4 months of reading it lmao).

>LN
6 months in and it was hard as fuck from start to finish. Even by the end I felt like I had barely improved.

>>21605699
>Day 1
of starting to read, that is.

Prior to that, I watched Let's Learn Japanese Basic I and Visualizing Japanese Grammar.

>>21605293
I started reading Nanatuiro Drops about a month after starting core6k, but it took me about two months to get through all of the routes in it spending about 40 min per day reading it.

>>21605157
>pic
God, what an idiot.

>>21605451
Wizard here, it most likely won't feel like anything at all to you. To reach a level that high you have to read a fuckload, and it's very gradual improvement along the way, so by the time you reach it you'll be doing the same stuff you've done constantly for like a year or more. It won't feel very special, it'll just be like, "oh huh I guess I'm at this point now" and that'll be that.

It's kind of unfortunate in a way just how mundane language becomes. I remember thinking "I will never get bored of reading anything Japanese, because just reading in another language is fun." Now that I've read 300+ Japanese books and the language courses through my blood like English, that sounds as silly as "I will never get bored of reading anything English" does.

Oh well. With mundanity comes practicality at least.

>>21605699
What was the first VN you read?
What was your first LN?
Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?

>>21605802
>What was the first VN you read?
Flyable Heart

>What was your first LN?
Overlord

>Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?
No

still can't stop listening to yzerr
https://youtu.be/R8RdhiCG9mw

help me jamal

>>21605802
>What was the first VN you read?
Hanahira
>What was your first LN?
Konosuba
>Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?
A good rule of thumb is to not mine a word until you recognize that you've seen it before.

seeing that focusing on more frequent and consistent, immersive and compelling input is the primary key to my further progression. i can't get that if i keep being distracted.
i have no idea how much i'm getting these days but it's not nearly as much as i could be if i wasn't wasting so much time.
so i'm going to start using this time tracking app to get a very clear picture of how i'm spending my time each day; numbers don't lie.
i don't have to do one of each thing every day or anything. just as much japanese stuff as i can with my undivided attention. any passive input like listening to anime in the background while browsing DJT, doesn't count for this. only time spent with my full attention on the thing. oh and of course, i'll be looking up anything i don't know or can't guess confidently, primarily using a J-J monolingual dictionary, but falling back on J-E or google when necessary.
i plan to drop the app when lots of input on a near-daily basis becomes habitual.

let's see how much i can get in the next 24 hours.

Anybody got any passive immersion hearing material recommendations?

>>21605848
any random youtube video since it's passive meaning you're not paying attention anyway

>>21605802
>What was the first VN you read?
Shizuku
>What was your first LN?
Starting Shana soon
>Did you mine any words or phrases while reading them?
No

>>21605848
>Passive
Basically this >>21605861
You can also go ahead and listen to a completely different language and get the same benefits.

>>21605691
>>21605699
Ok then I'm not retard after all. I'm also 6 months and just started to read my first LN

>>21605874
Damn, that makes me the retard then since I was referring to vns only, can someone recommend me a LN

>>21605874
Well, I read my first LN (OniAi) 10 months after learning kana & reading some manga. I just never thought of doing it earlier.
Then again, I don't think I would've been anywhere near ready back when I couldn't recognize any words in kanji (besides 悪魔).

jesus christ why so many?

more like why does eigo have so many words for demo

>>21605986
You need to become more conformable with vagueness. That is not going to teach you japan語, reading will

>>21605848
you should only do passive immersion using things you've already listened to once (preferably recently) actively, otherwise it's literally just background noise

>>21604011
that is not sport, 武道。

武道とスポーツでは意味が違うんだ。

楽しみ
楽しいだろうと期待する気持ち。「彼（カレ）と会うのが—だ」

i don't tanoshimi
there's no kanojo to au

>>21606069
you just made this up

せんりゅうを書いてみないか？

DJTスレ
時の果てまで
よみがえる

DJTスレ
今回はもう
二万回

投稿を
別に誰にも
送ります

わたし
死ぬの日
楽しみ

>>21606403
「死ぬの日」x
「死ぬ日」○
「死の日」○
also, get some help

>>21606403
少年よ
死を招いたら
連れて来る

>>21606447
good
i'm tired of waiting

やっときた
願いしてたの
俺の死の日

息止めに
最後に気づく
生きたいな！

ダラダラの
日々の生活
は最高

How big brain do you need to be in successfully learning this?

きのきいたことをいおうとしてやめた

>>21606646
"How big of a brain do you need to have in order to successfully learn this?"

Fixed that for ya

>>21606646
how big brain do you need to be to learn japanese
actual fix

>>21605966
元気です

>>21605986
theres 2 cases.

1) but.... (でも...)
2) even X (Xでも）

there, simplified it for yo ass

>>21606718
ワット？何？

>>21606770
you need a little bit of brains, a little bit of persistence, and a lot of dedication

I wrote a blog back when I started learning it. maybe it can motivate you
http://learningjapanesewithanonymous.blogspot.com/

its only really hard until a few months in when it 'clicks'. if you can buckle down and study hard every day, you can get to decent comprehension in a month

>>21605896
I really liked AoButa manga and anime. Now I'm reading volumes 6-7 which the movie adapted. My plan is to read them before the bd release. If you liked that serie give it a try. really just read what you like

>>21606832
Recommending people to do genki and follow JLPT levels seems kind of cringe, in my opinion.

>>21606875
worked for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>21606824
きのこ

>>21606899
きのこ食べたらめっちゃハイになるらしい
食べてみる？ Y/N

>>21605634
it was written and composed by a school teacher abt 100 yrs ago and we sing even now
there is no document, but probably like "butterfly likes nectar",
the old era children believed that fireflies would also like "sweet water", i guess

meaning 甘い水 is "better/best/good place/condition", (butterflies like good river = water)
so often used as "誘惑-する/-される", but it is rarely used now.

本物のホタルの乱舞は貴重で幻想的なのだが、サイリウムの海で溺れるのも捨てがたい。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEuxRgdJZs

>>21605986
This is an awful guide compared to literally every other guide on the site.

I'm having a problem with my Anki deck, no audio is playing when the cards come up, but if I click edit on the card and go to cards it'll play in that menu. Play Audio Automatically is checked. Any idea how to fix this?

>>21606403
>>21606446
字足らず。

>>21606940
Found the problem, AnkiDroid is just refusing to grab the audio files from Web.

>>21606922
whyd u delete ur post anon?

>>21606904
カエンタケ？

Reminder that the OP guide is deprecated.

This is the new guide

やらしくおねがいします

>>21605015
Fucking triple negative, fuck this language.

>>21607010
why would you recommend VNs for beginners to read? its often aimed at adults and use harder kanji and more stylistic phrasing. manga on the other hand often has simple but natural conversations and has much more elementary options, aka yotsuba. everyone recommends yotusba as a beginner manga.

>>21607044
kys

>>21607044
that shit used to trip me up a lot
now I just imagine わけないじゃない as its own set phrase and its a lot easier to understand. [theres no way that] + [this isnt delicious]

what's the biggest file size u can post on /jp/?

>>21607044
what, you aint someone who cant understand nothin?

(PS: that triple negative probably sounded natural to you)

>>21605634



that phrase is came fr famous traditional children's song
"Hotaru Koi 蛍[ほたる/ホタル]こい(来い) = fireflies, pls come (here, to me/us/our side)".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et_by4RIQ4c

it was written and composed by a school teacher abt 100 yrs ago and we sing even now
there is no document, but probably like "butterfly likes nectar",
the old era children believed that fireflies would also like "sweet water", i guess

meaning 甘い水 is "better/best/good place/condition", (butterflies like good river = water)
so often used as "誘惑-する/-される", but it is rarely used now.

real so many fireflies flying is very beautiful, yet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEuxRgdJZs

>>21607060
Nah, I understood it. It's just ridiculous that triple negatives exists at all when even double negatives are redundant.

>>21607065
No, that doesn't sound natural at all.

>>21607063
69kb or 420x420, whichever comes first

>>21607069
well aint you a good for nothin cant do not jack shit notta thing notta how

>>21607071
shit i wanted to make a manga and post it to prove you can draw in japanese, it was such a good plot too, well whatever i guess

>>21607072
Great, now I don't even know English.

>>21607074
i guess you gotta kill yourself.
腹を切る覚悟ができましたか

>>21607078
nah, why would i do that? i still have stuff to read yo

you're right fag she should have just said おいしい it would have had the same effect

>>21605212
Do you know if there is any way to make the created definitions look less hard to read?
All that stuff on the side and the additional definitions makes it hard to memorize easily.
Otherwise this works really well, Yomichan and ankiconnect

>>21607083
yeah the fufu is redundant as well. it should read

笑
確実に美味しい

>>21607091
rather than memorize definitions, memorize the 'feeling' of all of those words and associate it with the japanese word. that is the true way to learn. simple word substitution based learning is a crutch that will prevent you from really 'getting it'

japanese is contextual just remove all the words

>>21607104
This is the Japanese I read everyday to get better.

>>21607104
the best thing is that because japanese is superior language you can actually understand this through context

>>21607010
EZer Nippongo Gaido
Step 1: Learn Kana
Step 2: Consume whatever comprehensive and compelling content in Japanese you want (as monolingually as possible*) with the aid of dictionaries, internet search engines, or even actual people (native Japanese preferred). Progress depends on the quantity and quality of consistent practice.
Step 2.1: Repeat Step 2 forever; if you feel something isn’t compelling or doesn’t directly aid your comprehension in listening/reading, (or even speaking/writing if you’re into that) as much as you like, then you don’t have to do it.

NOTE: Using aids in a different language is permitted at the start, but over time (though as soon as possible) you must wean off of them and start using learning aids in Japanese.

Make sure you maintain a nutritional balance of manga you eat everyday and don't just consume the same type all the time.

manga has no nutritional value

No wonder my Japanese isn't improving then wtf

you mean you starved your japanese dead?

I think I'm starting to prefer short hair girls

frank

frank

スゥエーデンとかフィンランドとかロシアだっけ

サウナはいりにいきたい

フランク

Are these moonrunes?

>>21607488
top yes, bottom no

>>21607500
What is the 2nd one in the top?

>resting heart rate is 49 when I wake up
am I gonna die? wtf

so what's the difference between term cards and kanji cards? why don't kanji cards have the audio option? i just want to make cards with kanji, audio, meaning and reading and dunno which to choose

>>21607502
>>21607488
I duno what the center one is either. Stylized ロ? Does Muromu have any meaning in whatever that is? Or Mu[insert syllable here]mu?

>>21607521
>>21607502
maybe just very stupidly written ウ

>>21607520
i use 1 for hiragana words and the other for kanji words no idea if thats right or not lol

anime cards

>>21607525
>>21607521
there is "paizuri paradise" written, no kana.
I also searched for "ム＊ム" in jisho but it gave nothing.

>>21607538
maybe it's a name? むうむ 【夢緝】, try searching in hiragana instead of katakana since jisho results differ and nips often write things in katakana that are actually kanji

>>21605797
>that sounds as silly as "I will never get bored of reading anything English" does
some people are like that though

Uhhh, what the FUCK Alice?!?!?

i read some of a ln and understood nothing at all, if i keep doing this will i learn japanese?

>>21607641
Should start with something similar until your grammar's better. You should only be struggling with vocabulary when you start going hard on reading.

>>21607641
mitsuboshi colors with japanese subtitles

i asked if i will learn japanese this way, not for alternatives

>>21607724
I didn't give you an alternative you dumb faggot, I told you what you were doing wrong. Get better at grammar with easier shit (including an easier LN) and then start reading LNs.

>>21607747
but ultimately you didn't answer my question, i don't know if i want to take advice on japanese from someone who can't even read properly in english

>>21607752
yeah he did stop being dumb
he's right, if you understand nothing it's worthless
go to something easier and preferably with audio
he recommended a good option for that

>>21607770
no, i asked a yes/no question and i wanted a yes/no answer, i can make conclusion from there myself

>>21607776
you can't even conclude whether his answer was a yes or no which means you're too fucking stupid to tie your own shoe laces let alone learn japanese you inbred baboon-fucking dipshit

>>21607798
context does not exist in english language, so there's no way to "conclude" anything from the holler you spew from your assmug

>>21607803
just give up

>>21607807
suck my dick

>>21607752
>>21607776
If you couldn't understand my answer from the context, then no you won't be able to learn Japanese this way or any way at all. Being able to tell things from context is a very important part of reading Japanese because the language can get very vague at times. If you ask "can I learn Japanese this way" and I start talking about how you need to fix your grammar first, then the answer is obviously not until you do that first you brainlet. Knowing a bunch of words is meaningless if you don't know what the fuck those words do in the sentence.

>>21607812
>>21607803

>>21607812
he's trolling or too low iq to comprehend anything

Hey guys its me, no discipline man, going to start attempt 10 of learning. wish me luck

>>21607835
don't think theres enough luck in the world if youre the guy i think u are lol

>>21607840
im not I mostly lurk

>>21607835
start timeboxing
5 min intervals till you gain momentum

>>21607863
I'll look into timeboxing, I have this problem in almost every aspect of my life so finding a solution would be great, thanks

>>21607835
anon I believe that you can do anything, but you have to believe yourself as well, or you won't get anywhere! good luck

>>21607835
You have a better shot than >>21607641 at least.

>>21607887
imagine being this butthurt over your dumb advice being disregarded

快く
心にさわやかに感じられる。気持ちよい。「―・いリズム」「―・い雰囲気」

>>21607884
Thanks, good luck on whatever you are working on too!

>>21607878
no prob man
the issue is the hurdle of resistance. your mind imagines its gonna be really hard and difficult and time consuming so it resists the activity
a tiny time box like 'just 5 minutes right now then i can do whatever" reduces that resistance substantially
its easy to do almost anything if it's just 5 minutes

and if u successfully do whatever u planned for that 5 minutes, the feeling of accomplishment will likely drive you to do more and more of these tiny timeboxes until you feel confident enough to make them bigger
what exactly are you planning to spend the time on btw? jw

>>21607905
Thanks 辞書あにき

>>21607911
have you been checked for ADD/ADHD?

if you have to timebox reading and watching japanese youre probably not gonna make it since you dont have the motivation to learn the language (which is ok)

i just wanna say a big thank you for everyone out there who's contributed to the huge fucking swath of japanese resources we have available to us in this day and age
shit loads of anime, a very generous amount with japanese subs, LN's, VN's, manga, study books and anki decks, tutorials and grammar guides, online dictionaries including popup addons like yomichan, forums to ask questions
the list is fucking endless like damn
i'm not taking it for granted anymore, this shit's great
and i wanna start donating to some of these people too
心の底から感謝します

>>21607927
When I was a child yeah and didnt have anything. There is plenty of things I can focus on, I can read the whole day without stopping, program the whole day if I wanted etc. It's just learning things like this and school/writing reports I get bored and where normal people just keep going because of discipline I just give up and start doing something else thats a waste of time.
>>21607913
How do I scale the time up?
>>21607958
I dont have the motivation for anything. I've been working out for 10 years, I stopped finding it fun 3/4 years ago and just keep doing it because of discipline. It's actually the only thing I have discipline for. I'm just hoping I find the discipline for Japanese like I did for working out..

ok where's the secret sauce to japanese? i know you guys have

>>21607641
I just finish my read session. I had to look up a lot of words but I understood about 95% percent. I'm starting to feeling it :)

>>21607974
醤油
>>21607982
>having reading sessions
>not just reading every single moment u can
yikes

>>21607973
yeah im the same as you. my take on it is that the things that make you not want to study in those moments of weakness like not understanding a sentence, having to look up words all the time, feeling completely lost etc will diminish over time and you'll be able to find more enjoyment as that happens. thats what happened for me at least. good luck.

>>21607958
>since you dont have the motivation to learn the langua
people lack motivation for all kinds of reasons many times just distraction or anxiety
its not that the desire isn't there, it's that it's constantly being distracted from by other existing habits, or even subconscious fear that they can't do it
it's not uncommon for people to break through walls of resistance they had towards something they actually did want to do, and then start going hard with enjoyment once they got over whatever the inner hurdle was
so stop with this "if you don't feel totally gung-ho every day all the time from the very beginning you can't do it" nonsense
that shows a shallow understanding of human emotions/how the mind works

>>21607991
don't forget about meditation dude

>>21607973
>How do I scale the time up?
wait till you start to get momentum
once that feeling "wow i'm really doing this" starts coming
then increase by a few minutes
if you increase too much too soon you might get that feeling of overwhelm and stop again
so you really have to pay attention to your 感情 and not be too 強引 on yourself

>>21607982
>I just finish my read session. I had to look up a lot of words but I understood about 95% percent. I'm starting to feeling it :)
素晴らしい

>>21607991
yeah i put the word probably in there which means not 100%. once you get past the easy part of japanese and you have to learn 40k words or whatever i dont think discipline is going to last very long cuz youre just gonna be like why the fuck am i doing this again i dont even have fun doing it and i waste so much time on it. it's a huge time investment more than going to the gym a couple times a week or getting a college degree and if you cant do it for more than 5 minutes at a time? yeah i really do doubt your motivation for learning the language like why do you want to know it in the first place

>>21607988
>looking down on people who are trying and making progress just because their motivation isn't as high as yours yet, instead of just encouraging them to keep going
yikes

>>21608010
>getting a college degree
nigga what? liberal arts fag detected lol

>>21608012
he obviously was mocking the person who he replied to, why would i be nice to an asshole like that?

>>21608010
>once you get past the easy part of japanese and you have to learn 40k words or whatever i dont think discipline is going to last very long
you won't need the discipline by that point though
the discipline is to get you started, and the momentum of the fruits of your labors (including being able to enjoy stuff in the language now) is what keeps you going

>>21608024
yeah maybe that would be cool. i guess i dont understand cuz i was always hyped to learn japanese even (especially) in the beginning

>>21608031
Not understanding perspectives other than your own is a sign of low iq, maybe get that checked out.

>>21608031
cool, good for you
other people have other stuff going on emotionally than you have
learn empathy
感情移入スキル低そう

>>21608036
maybe. i guess get back to me after you master japanese with your 5 second timeboxes and ill be more understanding lol

>>21608048
Thats not what he is saying at all you absolute brainlet

got curious what my boys are talkin about and i see iq posting

>>21608048 made me laugh so >>21608054 loses, get lost peasant

A girl sends you this emoji, what do you respond?

>>21608080
>や５し～
what did she mean by this?

>>21608080
im more interested in what i sent before to instigate that

>>21608086
おちんちんの写真。

>>21608080
Say "wrong number" then block her. Fuck thots.

>>21608100
>Fuck thots.
doubt you're doing much fuckin, of thots or otherwise

>>21608080
Promptly apologise for bring shame upon my family name and proceed to commit seppuku.

>>21608107
Shows what you know, faggot. I fuck my best gal Te-chan everynight :]

>>21607878
Sounds like you need stimulants bud

If anyone has the pic related guide, help our poor ADHD anon out and post it

>>21608080
だねー

>>21608120
He doesn't have ADHD, he's just got a bad case of being a piece of human garbage.

>>21608132
now that's a projectin'

>>21608138
You better take that back before I say the n-word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5dhhdhO4Yw#t=29

>>21608132
>he's just got a bad case of being a piece of human garbage
and you aren't one for posting that...?

>>21608161
Indeed I am a piece of human, but I'm not garbage.

daily reminder of how important it is to 認知 your 感情 past a shallow surface level
stop being ashamed of not being a ロボット

>>21608170
if your first impulse is to put people down who are already down, you are indeed garbage.

>>21608179
go back

>>21608184
Putting down? I was just correcting him. He said in his own post that he didn't have ADHD. The next sensible assumption is to conclude that he's just a lazy piece of human garbage. Unless you have a better hypothesis or something. Which you don't, because I'm smarter than you.

so this is what happens when i dont post

>>21608202
>The next sensible assumption is to conclude that he's just a lazy piece of human garbage
only if you're one yourself

>>21608210
I've already explained that I'm not. Stop repeating yourself, please.

>>21608215
saying you aren't doesn't mean you aren't. by the way very ebin trolling m8 ure doing good work

>>21607104
this language is so fucking easy

>>21608217
You post in all lowercase, I hope you don't seriously think you're some kind of voice of reason.

>>21608223
dont need to be the voice or reason to point out you're worthless, it's obvious to everyone but yourself my dude

u post in djt I hope you don't seriously think you're some kind of voice of reason.

>>21608228
No, you.

>>21608202
>The next sensible assumption is to conclude that he's just a lazy piece of human garbage
not having motivation doesn't necessarily mean someone is garbage. being a dick to people who are struggling and asking for help certainly means you are though.

>>21608243
Yeah, it does. That's the definition of being a garbage human. If you can't get anything done then you're doomed to be among the lowest scum of society. "Being a dick to people" (as you put it), on the other hand, doesn't in any way have such conotation.

I used to only read one or two time per week but no I've been reading everyday for two weeks and it feels great, I can already see that I'm better than before desu

What is the best mouse over dictionary for LN/manga scans?

ただいまおにいちゃん

おふろはいってきた

What's the best エロチックゲーム you've all played since starting to learn Japanese?

cum quest 69

>>21607958
>>21607991
Motivation is a meme. It doesn't exist.

You are either interested and having fun, or you aren't. That's all that matters.

>>21608260
you need serious help from a counselor
i can't imagine you have any decent friends or healthy relationships

>>21608313

reddit invasion? what's with all the emotional posts

>>21608283
Capture2Text OCR works well enough as long as the scans are clear. Main problem I run into is it getting big and little つ confused really often, but that's not a huge problem.

>>21608315
Nice projection

>>21608318
yes. they're even posting from reddit. >>21608179

>>21606646
it's more about slow life history traits like delaying gratification than intelligence, although obviously intelligence will always help.

imagine being tribalistic over websites lol
reevaluate your lives

>>21608293
I play エロゲ often but CTRL through all the H-scenes, so maybe I'm not exactly the person you're wanting an answer from.

>>21608293
Any Rance game, no other answers need apply

>>21608341
go back

>>21607091
when you press the green button a book icon appears. click on it to take you to the card you just generated where you can quickly edit it.

to remove the italicized "jmdict" tags and stuff like that, use "{glossary-brief}" instead of "{glossary}".

to remove the bullet points, someone made this handlebars template:
>>/jp/thread/21355931#p21357943
click "Show Advanced Options" near the top of the yomichan menu, scroll down, and replace the text in the handlebars field with the pastebin he made.

>>21608353
............

anyways

>>21608344
This. The best MC with the best girls. You don't need anything else

>>21608313
>You are either interested and having fun
which means... you're motivated
by that interest and by that fun

>>21607091
>Do you know if there is any way to make the created definitions look less hard to read?
Yes: use Nazeka instead.

>>21608363
wow nice thanks.
that bullet point stuff was the reason why i didn't use yomichan import cuz the editing was messed up in anki for me.

>>21608383
No. If you need "motivation" to get you to pursue your interest then you aren't actually interested in it. You should be pursuing your interest simply because it's something you enjoy doing.

Do you need motivation to play a video game or to have a wank?

do people not realize that motivation only means "a drive to do x"?
you can be motivated by things like fun and interest and you can also be motivated by things like fear or discomfort
completely depends on the「x」, the person, and what their brain's conditioning is set up like

mo·ti·va·tion
/ˌmōdəˈvāSH(ə)n/
発音を調べる
noun
the reason or reasons one has for acting or behaving in a particular way.
"escape can be a strong motivation for travel"
同義語: motive, motivating force, incentive, stimulus, stimulation, inspiration, impulse, inducement, incitement, spur, goad, provocation; もっと見る
the general desire or willingness of someone to do something.

so you have fun in japanese which motivates you to do more stuff in japanese.... makes sense to me

>>21608400
>Do you need motivation to play a video game
Sometimes, yeah
>to have a wank?
No because you can't motivate yourself into being aroused.

>>21608400
In fact, I do. If my attention span runs out, I find it hard to get past the start screen of a game, and unless I'm horny, I won't jack off. People with ADHD and depression do exist, anon, sorry it's so hard for your normie brain to comprehend not doing something you want to do.

>>21608400
this is an incredibly stupid suggestion though and i wish people here would stop saying it because i would literally never do anything with my life if i only did what was immediately fun in the moment.

>>21608400
>Do you need motivation to play a video game or to have a wank?
every action anyone consciously takes has a motivation, or else they wouldn't take it
playing a video game is motivated by desire or fun or aversion from boredom
jacking of is motivated by hornyness or desire or aversion from boredom
learn what motivation means dude

>>21608418
>muh depreshun

guess i was right when i called the "you need to enjoy every second of your learning otherwise quit" as the next meme

>>21608410
>so you have fun in japanese which motivates you to do more stuff in japanese.... makes sense to me
yay a sensible person
>>21608421
>this is an incredibly stupid suggestion though and i wish people here would stop saying it because i would literally never do anything with my life if i only did what was immediately fun in the moment.
yay another sensible person (unless you're the same guy then 2 yays for you)

>>21608179
the ability to accurately describe your emotions is so obviously confounded by IQ which predicts all sorts of positive life outcomes which we would associate with happiness. god i hate reddit.

>>21608293
外道勇者一行

>>21608494
Die.

Parading motivation around is sweet on the surface, but the reality of the matter is that people are fickle creatures and generally relying on motivation will lead you to failure. I've personally tutored about 7 people in Japanese at this point and all but 1 of them have given up due to not studying when they aren't motivated to. Like, it's really as simple of that. Some of them gave up in the kana stage because they couldn't be assed to write them out or do flashcards or do anything at all - they weren't motivated to work, so they gave up and failed. The others got further but generally quit at the vocabulary/grammar stage because reading was hard enough that it was less fun for them than it was motivating, and they didn't have the spine to keep working anyway. Ironically the only one of them who hasn't given up is the guy who gelled well with Anki and has been doing reps for a year straight now.

In short, motivation is nice. If people could rely on motivation and learn Japanese consistently that'd be amazing. But that's not really the case for most people (and those who think it is probably are underestimating their work ethic.) Preaching motivation as the be all end all, and scorning those who don't rely on it like >>21607958 is just a destructive attitude.

Also I realize that it might sound like "Wow you tutored so many people and they failed, you must be a bad teacher" but in reality I'm referring to friends who I DM'd advice/resources to and answered the questions of when asked, so it's more like a spiritual guide than a serious tutor. Not too much influence over whether they get bored and quit or not.

>>21608515
This is a reddit repost.

anyone else here a sunk-cost fallacy learner? i cant be the only one surely. its literally the only reason i dont quit lol

i dont get how some1 "starts" or "quits" in the 1st place lol

>>21608515
What probably happened is that you coerced your friends into learning the nippongs and they complied solely out of pity for your pathetic existence (and for the lulz), but then realised your psycho guyjean ass was actually serious about it and immediately bailed out.

You don't need motivation, you need discipline.

>>21608293
KAMIGE OF PLOT
勇者様は俺の嫁っ
マオウオツ
Pronant Symphony
Sequel series https://whyisbeingazodisobad.wordpress.com/2019/01/16/2018-a-retrospective-part-1-sequels/
King Exit
Black Souls 1/2
うさみみボウケンタン
外道勇者一行 / other games by this dev (Bad End Collector comes to mind)

KAMIGE OF GAMEPLAY (some of the above games also fit into here)
DepraviA Egrigori (extreme gore fetish but actually solid gameplay)
THE HEART OF DARKNESS (dark souls style exploration game with incredible pixel art)
Nightmare Girls
Night of Revenge (literal bloodborne clone in 2d)

KAMIGE OF PORN (ill just throw out things that suit my tastes)
ヴァンパイア・ノーツ
王国の守護天使
紅獄の剣士ティーナ
討魔の乙女
なんでも調査少女ＲＰＧ
ニプルヘイムの狩人
ナコの魔法と純欲の怪人 (this kind of goes with Plot since it has an elaborate and long story, and with Gameplay since it's a Tales of Symphonia clone, but the large quantity of porn is it's most distinctive quality)

NOT QUITE KAMIGE BUT SO WHERE NEAR
働くアイリがキリ斬りス - really great writing at the start and in some quests, but focuses too much on the H-scene sides of things with uncomfortably realistic depictions of rape
爆災雷鋼ライオウガー - this does some hilarious things with your standard hot wife getting NTR'd but holy fuck it looks ugly and the gameplay sucks ass
寝取られ騎士 - hilarious NTR plot with some epic meme twists but extremely buggy when I played it
MARRIAGE OR PERVERT - I feel like noting this game because it has art by a very well known mangaka and was fun, but it's not something i would really go out of my way to recommend
ナイツ・オブ・メサイア - Actually pretty solid writing and an AMAZING ost, but bogged down by what comes close to the worst gameplay I've ever seen in an HRPG, and the story doesn't really deliver like it could have (also it's extremely NTR)

VISUAL NOVEL CONTAINMENT ZONE
三射面談
裏教師
牝教師3
変態エルフ姉妹と真面目オーク
監獄戦艦２、３
もっと！孕ませ！炎のおっぱい異世界エロ魔法学園！
対魔忍アサギZERO
カーラ The Blood Lord
魔王のくせに生イキだっ！

>>21608595
No, in this day and age the west is overflowing with people who have an interest in learning Japanese thanks to anime and such. A lot of my friends and associates are the same and, since they know I am a nihongo expert, ask me to teach them (or to help them learn anyway). I oblige and they give up.

I've only attempted to coerce one friend into learning Japanese and that's just because they're a NEET who complains about the stuff they like never getting translated. Learning Japanese would make their life appreciably better and like any bro I want the best for them. But that's just one person and I'm not actually pushy about it. (Nor have they started...)
>>21608576
Unfortunately, explaining how time works is a bit beyond my scope here.

>>21608483
so how is that information relevant to your life?
are you happy because of your IQ?

how long have u been learning and how much of this can u understand

https://www.4chan.org/japanese

>>21608642
wtf are you talking about

>>21608644
long enough and enough to say LOL

>>21608553
>anyone else here a sunk-cost fallacy learner
once you're aware of the fallacy at work in you (which you've just shown that you are by posting this) you become able to consciously make the choice consciously about whether you actually want to continue spending your time on japanese or not

>>21608648
what's the point of rambling about IQ if it's not relevant to your actual life?

anyone else switch between lower case proper grammar/lower case shit grammar (u, ur etc) and uppercase posting?

no i just occasionally use the stern period lmfao.

>>21608660
wtf is the point in posting about anything you here retard? fuck off

>>21608738
so what i've gathered so far
you're easily irritable and reactive and clearly not happy, but are ranting about how important IQ is for happiness even though it isn't having that effect in your life
???

>>21608840
when did i say i have a high IQ? moreover i was referring to averages, so any given individual could still be unhappy for a variety of reasons. that's why your questioning is completely nonsensical to me unless it's to troll in which case you got me.

You guys have watched dolly's new video, right?

>>21608856
no it seemed like another video rehashing the same thing as the last 4-5

too busy reading VN with perfect 2d girls to waste my time watching a boring 3d girl video sorry

>>21608856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NcOz6C7qxo#t=61

what's wrong with dolly and her "anime soundtrack"
this sounds dumb as fuck, might as well listen to an audiobook

>>21608856
Dolly is an autist like Matt. Explain why I should listen to an uncredentialed amateur ramble about linguistics/education when they've learned exactly 1 language and I'll consider it.

i wanna meet the doll dude and just be like what the fCUk

>>21608932
explain why someone should give a fuck about credentials in a pseud field like linguistics first lmao

>>21608932
because he's right

>>21608890
lmao this song is so disturbing to me

never forgot that you can't learn japanese if you don't know how to yodel first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO7MWuJ7zLA

>>21608942
Because people posit shit like language affecting how people see the world and we don't take them seriously either

>>21608943
Elaborate

the dollman says some shit that makes sense and then goes off the rails talking about cutting audio out of anime and listening to it on ur ipod while doing ur flashcards while making sure to read their book alice in kanjiland

i mean i think all the ppl that matter itt have agreed the only part of dollys content that matters is their train vids everything else is use at ur own risk

>>21608962
his grammar videos are a pretty good grammar resource (his other videos are shit though)

btw if u wanna understand how fuckin weird the doll dude is just look at that page and note who uses "alice" and "arisu" and ull really start to see the sickness that lies within

>>21608932
not saying you should or shouldn't but if he is actually mexican then he speaks at least 3 languages and you have no way of knowing if that's all he knows

>>21605015
>>21605966
>>21605993
>>21606371
>>21607055
>>21607083
>>21607100
>>21607104

>>21608978
Perhaps "Cure Dolly" is a request, and not a name

>>21608970
lmfao
i can't stop laughing what the

>>21608994

>>21608994
a cry for help :(

>>21608999
Repeating numbers confirmed theory

imagining the irl doll man wearin a stained wifebeater and dingy boxer shorts layin vegged out in the corner with like 5 syringes sticking out of his arm in his room filled with dolls lmao :'(

stfu losers and go watch jav

and then when the drugs start to wear off and he comes down he hobbles to his feet singing under his breath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NcOz6C7qxo#t=74 as he shuffles out to go buy his next fix with the measly amount of patreon money he gets from his nihongo channel

>>21608904
It's actually quite effective. I started doing it a few months ago when she first mentioned it.

Do ankidrones only do their reps at home, or do they do them elsewhere too?

never wouldve thought all these trees would be commonly used kanji

>>21609362
When is someone an Anki drone? Just using Anki for any amount of time at all?

I do Anki mostly not at home but while commuting. But I also use Anki less than 30 minutes a day.

when is someone a nicotine addict? just smoking a cigarette at all?
i mostly smoke cigarettes outside. but i also only smoke one a day!

i mean when u start "having" to smoke a cigarette thats when ur addicted by definition at least

so what exactly is the difference between rtk and wanikani other than one takes two years to do what the other does in a month

>>21609461
wanikani also teaches readings i think

馬鹿な...

>>21609461
Wanikani teaches you vocabulary and how to read, RTK teaches you a party trick

>>21609503
couldnt u just learn hoow to read by reading tho

do you think matt enjoyed his meditation retreat

>>21609461
Use KD to get the benefits of both for free.

only thing you need is anime cards

>>21609514
Yeah so why not just skip RTK? At least WaniKani is technically offering "something" but RTK manages to not even do that.

>>21609503
> RTK teaches you a party trick
lel

so this "anime and drama" frequency list is probably derived solely from one piece?

>>21609595
no ur actually just exposing how noob u r lol

>>21609625
well yea i'm very noob else i wouldn't be looking up this sorta stuff. but that frequency list has to be busted somehow.

>>21609595
No, it does appear elsewhere, just not as often.

>執事 means butler
>羊 means sheep
>印刷 means printing
>暗殺 means assassination
やっぱり日本語は変だよね。

reminder that yoga the big supporter of doing millions of anki cards couldn't output the word 食べ物 when he wanted to say food in japanese because he rotted his brain droning flashcards

>>21609632
i mean frequency lists mean jack anyway so i wouldnt worry about it too much

i bet ur gonna start seeing pirates everywhere now that uve been thinking about it

Sup /djt/ RTK-anki drone here, i have a request for translation.

How would you translate "technology demonstrator" in the sense of euphemisms the arms/defense industry uses.
(you know: the way latest gen arms tech tends to turn up in proxy conflicts between nations that have no way of developing or buying that kind of stuff)

Do nips even do the kinds of euphemisms NATO language is coded in?
like :
defense - war
exfiltrate - take shit at gunpoint
contractor - mercenary

wiki only gives me 技術デモンストレーション
which is not kanji enough for a game about cyborg ninjas

this is not the place for translation request lol

why wouldnt u just at least start with 技術者 lol

also ur other questions about nato terminology being applicable in japanese is a good 1 ull find a lot of stuff like this tho all of those can be equated in japanese fine anything that might have a more foreign concept they can always do fun things w. furigana etc : )

>>21605797
i like reading in english and japanese. doubt i will ever get sick of either.

>>21609766
oh i read the rest of ur post i meant a bigger entity

how is this does this amount of kanji make u happy 軍用技術の実証実験者

>>21609461
wakinaki is a scam for noobs rtk is for professional kanji learners

>>21608890
Pure psychosis.

haven't read today since i told myself i can't read unless i listen but i don't wanna listen. so i haven't done anything in japanese today.

im watching anime right fUCking now

over 25 years in the game and i still watch anime ftmfw

read over 200 pages of manga watched 12 episodes of anime and did passive listening all day yesterday and in my sleep.

>>21610034
What do use as passive listening material?

>>21610050
anime audio

>>21610050
jav

>>21610050
same as you used for active listening

if acquisition just means hearing a phrase so often you automatically know what it means then there's nothing special about that and it's a gay term.

>>21610063
What do you use as active listening material?

>>21610079
mostly anime, sometimes podcasts

God, why did my parents teach me pig-disgusting english. I could have learnt Japanese.

>>21610099
being an ESL would suck so much ass. i'm glad my native language is english.

On Kitsunekko, the subtitle files for Highschool dxd is in chinese, dafuq?

>>21610076
luckily for us ur not in charge of the definition

>>21610099
if you were japane yuo be talmin abouot wanting to be american. be happy to be able to appreciate the aquisition of nipspeak. am eating croissant so excuse typin

>>21610116
what do you mean

>>21608970
This reads like something Khatzumoto would write, so it's either an odd cynical act to get patreon bucks from people or the guy is straight up fucked in the head.

>>21610140
>>21610015
seems like u already know whats good my dude

why is my add card thing on yomichan greyed out even though i set everything up?

no more cards

>>21610163
its a sign from the great papersama

i just want to mine... please help me...

>>21608428
Selfish autistic manchild.

>>21610183
if you read eryday it is useless. if you need reqs you know where to find ja boi

>>21610192
>empathy
fuck yourself

>>21608428
everyone and their mother has depression nowadays. muh depression is normie tier.

>>21610215
i meant >>21608418

please help me configure yomichan right, cards in anki make me feel like i actually am making progress

>>21610114
yea i checked a couple months ago and again today. it's GAY.

>>21610253
good thing it makes you feel that way despite being useless.

please help me fund my anki addiction by helping me set up yomichan, i can suck your dick or something

>>21610163
might have changed your deck(s) structure

>>21610256
I even tried looking up for the subtitles with a google search, both in English and Japanese and came up empty. 90s anime I can understand not finding subs, but a 2010s anime? lolwut

>>21610277
>>21610256
>>21610114
learn japanese retards

>>21610287
The subtitles help with learning, retard.

>>21610291
evidence kudasai

please stop fighting its not very tanoshii when u do that

>>21610351
k fren, lets get back to talking about dicks.

Do you think japanese people will be weirded out by my circumcision?

>>21610351
Tanoshii things wa tanoshii desu

>>21610363
they might be but if your dick is ookii enough i dont think they will mind much
>>21610365
great post

日本語はむずかしい

>>21610363
I'm glad I don't have to worry about this kind of stuff since my dick is uncut

>>21610385
君の顔を見ているのはちょーーーー難しぇーなー

>>21610388
but at least im white

>>21610403
yes but there will always be people like me who are both white and uncut. If only I studied japanese or read instead of shitposting here

>>21610403
>cut = white

help my assssshole is bleeding badly fuck help what do i do fuck fuck fuck fucks

>>21610391
いじめないでください