/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://yiff.party/patreon/3367114

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gol5dFrv4Ao

ワタシノニホンゴハヘタデス

これは服装か？衣裳か？

God im FUCKED

>>21510613
じゃ何でここに来たのか？
このつまらないスレに来るは義務ではない。

ふらんく

>>21510496
reminder to not take financial advice from him thank you

It's delusions of grandeur one of the biggest signs of dekinai? N3 niggers calling native retards setting their goals to surpass natives always seem to be the ones who break after the realization they don't much after years of study

Asking again from last thread

Can any Matt patreons link his Q&A videos? Specifically the May 18th one

>>21510764
Where did you get this number? I tried to estimate the number of sentences in anime a while ago and didn't get close to that number. After getting rid of subtitle timings and removing very short/filler sentences (anything less than 7 characters iirc), I was only getting 200-300 per episode.

>>21510871
reading is always the better choice. don't listen to him justifying his priority of anime over study

>>21510888
i agree with u in theory but if the man wants to anime he should prob anime
cuz enjoyin urself enough to stay engaged and keep doin it is #1

>>21510895
listening practice is also a good thing. i'd prefer dramas over anime for that, but anime still can serve as a study tool, especially with subs2srs and anki

reading is better if you dont wanna become good

literally just do what you want to know my god what is wrong with you people

wheres the guy who cant figure out what demo means
got a sentence for you to mine

>>21510871
based on my calculations 400 to 500 is more realistic

>>21510977
id been keepin this in case i saw someone ask about de again lol

>>21510871
>anything less than 7 characters iirc
That's like half of all normal dialogue. You have to remember that kanji are extremely information dense. Do a character count and then divide by something like 10 or 15.

Why do people pay attention to the Japanese-learning Youtube community even though we already all know the answer to why immersing is important in vocabulary acquisition?

>Get to lesson 18 in genki 2
>Realize that the Genki deck I downloaded off the COR only had the words up to this part
Oh no shit might be getting difficult

>>21511034
If you've read that much of Genki till now, you should be ready to start a mining deck, bro.

>>21510496
Are you stupid? Stop making threads when the other one is still healthy and kicking. This isn't /v/

other thread is too long didnt read

say that in japanese

馬鹿か？前スレはまだ生きていながらスレを立てるのは止せ。ここは/v/じゃないよ。

no I meant the other anon after you oh well

このスレより前スレはちょっと長いから読みたくない

:)

Who else here still on their 不応期 since their last 抜きゲー session?

Since MAGICAL ANIME CARDS are the new shit, we should really try to get some anime recommendation chart going.

I start:
>Peppa Pig: It's very annoying and childish. But it's probably the best thing to start out. Just watch it in your native language and see how fucking slow and simple they talk.
>Totoro: It's a very nice kids movie and I was really surprises about how easy it is to understand.
>Tanoshii Moomin Ikka: This is my personal favorite. 78 episodes of pretty simple content for children, but it's still enjoyable enough to not lose interest.
>Shirokuma Cafe: Also pretty simple and has a running choke where they get into little misunderstandings about homophobes.
>Chobbits: Very cute and has a character that starts to learn the language.
>Maid Sama!: Not sure why, but I thought it's quite easy to understand.

Things that get recommended, but didn't work out for me:
>Non Non Biyori: For some reason I thought it's hard to understand, even though they don't use that many words. Also I think it's boring and wasn't appealing to me.
>Flying Witch: For me it was difficult to understand and they have quite some jokes around hard to understand dialects.
>Rilakuma: Easy to understand, but there is no were near enough dialogue. Also I though it hard to watch, actually almost worse than Peppa. It's for absolute toddlers. Pro Tip: You can watch with some kind of narration turned on (for blind people maybe?), this adds a lots of dialogue, but the content is still bad.

introducing the new mahou shoujo kaado

>>21511332
Non Non Biyori is the shit I got words from it like 蕨　薇　酢漿草　蓬
Recommendation from me is 少女終末旅行 they use very simple Japanese but it's still fun and interesting

>>21511332
>Since MAGICAL ANIME CARDS are the new shit
Literally just Quiztard and 2 other people do them.

honestly anyone who says nnb is boring u should disown immediately
even if u are desperate for friends who buy into ur shit

>>21511349
>蕨　薇　酢漿草　蓬
Yeah that might be the reason, I didn't like it. It's listed as one of the shows with the smallest vocab on Netflix, but I don't even know what those mean in English.

>少女終末旅行
Sure I can see how this might be a really good beginner series.

>>21511365
I'm sorry I can't help it. Usually I'm quite a conformist, but NNB, Lucky Star and Clannad are things, I personally just can't get into.

You got it wrong I don't force anyone to do anime cards, nor do I force anyone to argue for them
they are merely a tool I have revealed to you that you are free to use for your own gain
I don't gain anything financially or go famous or anything like that
it's just 慈善事業 from me

i wasnt talkin about forcin or profit i just meant u want to be accepted

I don't know dude
I struggle more with people who are on the same wavelength with me which is why I rarely actually respond to people saying nice things about me
really while prospering in competitive environments and feeling the best and most clear of mind surrounded by people hostile towards me
building friendly relationships with people has always felt like work for me, an increasing stack of expectations and responsibilities
but it's different for enemies and rivals who expect nothing of the sort of you, the only thing that matters is how good you are
maybe that is why I haven't been able to remove myself from DJT
because this is the only place where such an environment can exist, while in every other place somebody will crack down on it and force certain behaviours
I suppose I am thankful to you for providing me a home DJT
I prosper thanks to you

Redpil me on reading speed. I have been stuck at 200-300字／分 for months now even though I pretty much never look up words any more. What can I do? I've have been reading a lot these months as well

>>21511332
>Also I think it's boring and wasn't appealing to me.
Shit taste. I've rewatched it like 5 times.

oops meant rtk

>>21510613
those were the days

how do rtk friends read this 唵 呼嚧呼嚧 戰馱利 摩橙祇 娑婆訶

Wow mods decided to trash the previous thread instead of deleting this one catering to the retard making threads early. Bad decision.

>>21511719
why do you guys like this so much? Is there some kind of zombie twist after a couple of episodes? I don't even think it's cute. It's just annoying little shits doing annoying little shit.

from last thread

>>21511677
if i watch anime without subs i dont look up words, i just let the anime voices wash over me and go with the flow. those are usually shows i've either seen or read the manga so i dont have a fear of missing anything important from the plot

>>21511395
lucky star aged really bad and clannad always was shit garbage for spoiled brats

>>21511498
absolutely did not read any of this post

i have never taken djt's recommendations for anything and also rarely watch the videos you post

>>21509559
>mining shit you're potentially only going to see once in your obscure anime
>not sticking with decks made from statistical prevalence

>>21511738
wtf is that

>>21511728
Even worse, they delete all the threads you post in immediately.

if only one of us had that kind of power

>>21511757
looks like some kind of dies irae meme chant

hataraitara make

>>21511744
I usually also do this, but sometimes I really want to quickly look up a single word I didn't understand for quite some time. Like I said, this is basically how I learned english.

Any recommendations on e-dicts? Money doesn't matter, but it should be able to understand romaji / kana and have a mechanical keyboard.

>>21511332
only mary (quiztard) and the brazilian tranny are actually doing anime cards

>>21511757
chinese?

if money doesnt matter just buy a japanese girlfriend lol

>>21511762
some mod deleted the thread when I was typing a long post once. these fuckers are watching our every step

>>21511787
nice post

>>21511778
I use akebi on android, the interface is better than jisho (except for radical lookups which jisho wins). Or you could just have a JP sub file and only pull it up when you want to see a word. If you want yomichan lookup you can use this https://github.com/kaervin/subserv-mpv-plugin

>>21511787
sorry only interested in 2d, might buy a voice actress one day though.

what's the incentive to having a vocabulary over 20000 words but not getting good at japanese
this is what separates matt from the card drones

>>21511349
Quiz-chan if I told you to actually show me what any of those plants look like you wouldn't be able to do it, yet you bother to mine them. Where does that disconnect in your brain come from?

https://streamable.com/brr8p

imagine this being your favorite show lmao

>>21511802
to make this vid obviously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCFyD_Q51k#t=670

>>21511798
I also thought about buying a new phone or tablet for this purpose only. Because my normal one needs a lock screen and that is quite bothersome for looking up words.

Hm maybe a netbook would be the ideal compromise.

>>21511544
Nothing, just keep at it. That's all.

>>21511811
>brr8p

lmao

>>21511332
>anime cards
Thanks Quizmaster!

>>21511802
are u trying to say matt isnt a card drone lol

>>21511813
I bet your average university school girl wouldn't be able to read this shit. Except she is in the linguistics department of course.

>>21511824
i think hes just polluting the thread with his pepe le pew posting first and foremost but then secondary to that that saying matt is both a card tard but also good at japanese

>>21511498
>but it's different for enemies and rivals who expect nothing of the sort of you, the only thing that matters is how good you are
lol since when have any of our "enemies" in djt given a shit about how good you are

>>21511808
I know how they look because they actually show up in the anime and I got pictures of them on my cards in addition to that.
Besides, learning to read the Kanji is both to initially create a mental entry for it but also just to be able to read it when it shows up in any text I read. If somebody starts talking about 蓬 tea I'm going to feel a lot more like I know what is being talked about when I am aware it's a plant and what kind.
Besides it's minimal effort to learn it. It's interesting and fun so I'll do that. There is no disconnect expect you seemingly thinking I put a significant amount of time into memorizing these when I have a method that makes it efficient.

>>21511544
gotta get more speaking practice because that'll improve your prediction ability and your processing ability, which is a big part of fast reading.

btw i'm n5 and this is a theory i've pulled out of my ass.

I will yurusu your taido of the past if you sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gswZN3hARJo, quiz

>>21511841
saw a post like this on reddit

>>21507790
the biggest chance is prolly that we don't copy/paste reddit posts as much

>>21511843
same but only if he sings this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXHFr6YlMDo#t=66 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXHFr6YlMDo#t=170

>>21511849
change*

>>21511839
Do you actually learn them with the translation though or just to read them?

I know these words in English but I could not tell you what they're called in my native language.

>>21511855
I don't learn the English translation. Mostly I focus on the reading but I usually have an image of how they look in my head and the context I got it from.

>>21511808
not only that but those are written in katakana even in academic contexts...

>>21511828
matt cant either so the only difference is he aint a university school girl and thats the real loss
>>21511850
same but he has to do this whole song not just parts

dang i didnt know tobidora was such a big event for the thread

you have to watch this manga

>>21511349
Say about that tripfag whatever you want, but the tip about that Girls last Tour anime was really great. Just finished the first episode and I have to say, it's probably the most beginner friendly anime with compelling content I have seen so far.

I want to w̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ read translated Korean manhwa, are the translations any good?

hey guys, is it better to learn kanji isolated or pick it up along the way through context from input (anime, manga, etc)?

>>21510496
Hey, I recognize that guy. It's the pitch accent dude.

wtf kanji come from words not anime loool

>>21511872
I FUCKING LOVE that manga

>>21511916
i recognize him as the trick dude from the quad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFo0H_STV5w

>>21511872
How to watch

>>21511914
yes

>>21511914
Ask yourself why you want to learn japanese? If you are motivated to read a lot, starting with kanji is the way to go. If you want to talk and understand it's probably fine to be a bit lazy with kanji at the beginning. You could for example just learn the ones from Tae Kim and or the Genki books at first. Just be aware that learning kanji, also means that you will have to read a lot for the rest of your live or you will forget them sooner than your high school algebra.

>>21511930
it's very impressive and crinch at the same time

Is learning the lyrics to Japanese songs a good way to practice speaking Japanese?
In case you give a fuck, these are the songs I sing along to:
https://youtu.be/ZJGu-PJfICU
https://youtu.be/HE2871aesMU
https://youtu.be/9Gj47G2e1Jc
https://youtu.be/3xe21H1i_0M
https://youtu.be/k-KAY_Glmn4
https://youtu.be/OVEtmKwS7GQ

>>21511914
Input. Make anki cards for radicals + kanji + words you come across.
>>21511921
Anime have dialogue, which have words, which have a way of being written down.

The preferred nomenclature is EATING manga, not watching. Please be 注意

>>21511963
anki ain't working,　兄貴

>>21511959
was stoked about the 1st 2 links well besides the incredibly atrocious subs like really fuckin bad lol rip that band

but no not really but if u like doin karaoke still do it but it doesnt contribute that much to ur actual functional japanese ability

>>21511966
what a surprise ur 1 of the sickos

>>21511975
if you want, here's a channel with their live performances and music vids on it.
https://www.youtube.com/user/shindabokunokanojo

Meh, at least I'll be karaoke champ and possibly have qt nipponese grorious waifus all over me.

>>21511994
yah ive been all thru their shit

i think the fat dude started another band but i forget if it was with some of the same ppl or not

>>21512001
what's it called?

can't wait to make drama cards

>>21512011
why wait https://j-raws.me

>>21512004
i do not remember cuz i was not into it but it was like shindabokunokanojo but different words

>>21512017
thanks buddy

Yo, Quiz, how would you make a light novel card?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Bl7JXQUTg

use ur japanese girlfriend to record and then use the ln cover as the picture

jamals light novella card method

lads, how do I say "im gay" in japanese? asking for a friend

>>21511914
do trk

>>21512042
im studying ARt in japanese and i just *spins paintbrush around thumb* understand it

>>21512044
アイムゲイ

デス

>>21512036
why would I make a card from a light novel lol
I just read it

>>21512043
If I'm an autophilic narcissist, should I record myself doing a cute girl voice while reading a sentence off the LN?

>>21512060
yes but only if u post the vocaroo itt

>>21512042
Anime bob ross

>>21512065
dangit bobeh

I can't quiet make sense of this sentence.
>皆で花火するから隠しておいて

Because I'm going to play with fireworks with everyone, I hid them?

I want to watch Naruto. He motivates me because he was a loser in the school and he became a hokage. I can do it too!

>>21512070
more context pleez

>>21511992
dont let him color ur perspective of the manga is eating crew

hey guys are japanese schools really so cool like in animes
like with clubs and cute girls who like shy guys and stuff

>>21512080
why dont u ask matt

japanese schools are actually run down and dinky dreary shit holes

but yet u grow really fond of ur times there the further along in life u go

>>21512075
>また何か置きにきたの?
>正解．皆で花火するから隠しておいて．

>>21512083
cuz im lookin for more of a whole school perspective and not just incredible detail about the toilet

just wanted to share

robotics;notes is probably meh as a piece of writing but im in love with setting

sunny tanegashima, cute girls in robotics club, they dont care about future or fucking nightmare of a world, they just enjoy themselves on a sunny island in japan living the dream

ive read that tanegashima is a shithole with old men in real life

but i still kinda want to visit it

>>21512086
we still have a mystery on our hands

i think we should ask quiztard err master cuz hes the best at japanese here and has really good comprehension so he should have no problem explaining this 1 to u

>>21512100
japan is actually a shithole with old men in real life

>>21512112
what isnt a shithole with old men

>>21512115
i was gonna say this thread but lol

Should I consider buying a kindle?

>>21512086
>>21512107
I mean it's still not enough context we have no clue what he is saying maybe one interpretation is

did you come to leave something with me again
right, because I will do fireworks with everyone please hide it

but it could mean something completely different depending on the context

>>21512124
yes and u should also consider buying a large jug ur gonna need it

>>21512124
Dude don't be afraid to drop few thousand bucks on learning Japanese

wow it was actually that easy i thought thatd be more of a ordeal lol

>>21512142
I generally don't reply to dumbass questions but someone called me out so I made an exception but I'd prefer people don't ask stupid shit

Guys is it truly the intermediate hell where you can follow along something without pausing to look shit up but at the same time miss a lot of the details and subtleties of different expressions?

I guess its a definite improvement to before where I wouldn't have been able to even follow at all.

>>21511959
cant listen to stay with me without feeling so fucking down i just want to go to sleep forever. fuck this brain i was given

I thought you guys could help me with this.

I have a pdf document that is japanese. It has the text encoded so I was able to extract it as an html doc. when opening it on firefox, rikai works and allows me to look up words. but when i put it on my kindle the dictionary wont detect words. any solution?

>>21512183
yes have u tried leveling up ur nihongo力

>>21512071
i wanna watch hxh because gon becomes a dark twisted sociopath and i wanna learn to let loose and be free like him.
https://files.catbox.moe/929gcd.mp4

>>21512186
This book is fairy easy so I only dont know like a word or 2 per page. but I would rather have the ability to look up a word. any real solutions?

wtf is a sortie??

>>21512189
I remember watching this as my first fucking anime and thinking a) everything is this awesome and b) wow, it has over a hundred fucking episode, all anime must have this much

Boy was I wrong, wish I'd have savored it more.

>>21512199
if that was ur first anime im truly sorry u missed so much good anime just cuz u were born too late

>>21512201
You forget how the internet works/?

>>21512203
yah but timing matters dude

>>21512207
I'm sorry your way of coping with your old age is by thinking it matters when you watch a fuckin cartoon my dude

>>21512209
thats not really what its about

theres things that were considered really bad during their time that became really cool and dope decades later and vice versa

ur prolly jsut too young to understand this concept because u have no perspective on the ever changing world lol

>>21512183
maybe convert it to the amazon format, asw3 or whatever its called

>>21512219
Good thing my enjoyment of something is not dependent on how other people perceive it.

>>21512195
>he doesn't know French

>>21512242
but thats just the thing its because the world has changed and shaped what u perceive to be good and dope that this happens

in a way what u just said is entirely false because thats actually an impossibility by the very nature of consuming media in the first place lmao

u aint ready to fuck with me squiddo

>>21512195
>sortie
出撃

Is there a difference between (suru verb)をする and (suru verb)する?
Like, I know をする is technically "to do X", but it still kinda looks like it means the same thing?
Is it just a difference in connotations?

>>21512237
I did, the problem is i highlight over a word, and not even a difficult word 「竜巻」, and it says the word is undetectable.

>>21512129
this is why normalfags are poor.

>>21512195
I havent seen this joke in a long ass time. what happened to djt? :(

>>21512270
fagする means to perform faggish actions. fagをする means to "do" the fag.

>>21512270
if its a verb then を doesnt attach to it

if its a verb then putting する on it would make it weird and redundant

をする is not a construct as を attaches to the thing before it and is independent of する

so when im reading am i supposed to be deciphering every detail of a sentence and figuring out what it means or just looking over it quickly and getting a general idea for what it means? this would probably be less painful if i didnt have to look up 99% of the words and guess what definition it is in the context

>>21512317
>so when im reading am i supposed to be deciphering every detail of a sentence

no also stopped reading there

>>21512317
Just feel the meaning bruh.

>>21512317
i mean, if you define "looking over it" as skimming over vocab and getting a general idea for what it means in english then no. what u should be doing is following the grammar particles and getting a feel for what vocab goes where. dont need to pay attention to every detail. just the gist

>>21512328
dont even have to do that just skip all the incomprehensible shit and go for the shit that is comprehensible and sprinkle in some lookups if u feel its vital to getting anything at all wrt the main idea

>>21512317
just keep lernin japanese til your good brp

u gotta spend a long time reading nihongo like shit before more of it becomes accessible to u

and if u force urself to go on a google expedition 5 times a sentence ur not gonna make it ever

>>21512201
I don't get this mentality. what is stopping someone from watching older shows. i was born in 98 and have seen many shows from before i was born.

>>21512317
read easier works, have you eaten yotsuba yet?

>>21512317
Focus on comprehending important sentences (that appear in infodumps or scene descriptions). Ignore useless sentences like jokes or h-scene dialogue.

>>21512332
oh yeah, and i wouldnt spend more than 2 mins on a sentence. any longer than that is just a waste of time unless it's some super long shit

>>21512339
ull understand someday i know what its like to be young and never think im gonna turn into the old guy thats gonna be like get off my lawn but alas it happened and its gonna happen to u its happened to everyone i know tho there are some that suppress it and lie to themselves to try to get around it but its still there

>>21512338
>ur not gonna make it ever
Nah. Only people who are consistently willing to Google explanations for unknown vocabulary & sentence constructions will make it. People who don't even care about that will never get good at understanding Japanese. They will just become good at clicking through stuff without comprehending what it means.

>>21512352
kys

Watch a 15 minute Dolly video where she talks for 13 minutes about how she's the only one who can teach you a topic or watch this video for 2 minutes. Which do you choose? Gold Kokeshi niggers need not respond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQPlY3KkG4

sometimes i feel like im the only person who ate all volumes of yutsubato. anyone else?

What is the purpose of the particle(?) ぜ？
Like ”やれやれだぜ” as an example.

I stopped after volume 2 because I wasn't really enjoying it and it felt like I was only doing it because it was recommended/for 404 girl memes. I go back and read a chapter every now and again though, when I'm feeling frustrated by my perceived lack of progress. Being able to blaze through a chapter when it took me forever when I first started makes me feel a lot better.

>>21512362
I hate that gay ass doll

>>21512371
makes you sound gei

>>21512365
>tfw you don't have enough vocab to read Yotsubato
When does this suffering end?

>>21512381
Perfect I'm going to use it then

>>21512358
no its good and advisable to google but not every single thing always all the time

>>21512361
kys

>>21512383
once you read instead of playing flashcard games.

>>21512383
When you realize that no matter how many Anki cards you pound into your gay little ass, you're still gonna have to look up tons of shit.

>>21512362
problem is thats the only 1 good vid on that channel

>>21512342
>h-scene dialogue
>unimportant
Why would you skip the best part?

>>21512383
Try Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun.
It has a bit of specialized mangaka vocab, but after you get used to that you shouldn't have that many problems at your level.
Just start mining as soon as possible.

>>21512410
Thanks anon

honestly if u wanna fast track ur nihongo learning just play the all ages versions of all games because lets face it ur in it for the amazing stories and would prefer it not to be tainted by the mandatory sex that the initial version required to be a marketable product lol

>>21512409
it's pretty boring when you've already fapped and you're trying to learn nihongo and they just keep saying んんｎ。。。ああああああ

>>21512408
Unfortunately, you're right. An entire series with curt videos like this would be amazing. That one video learned me that concept better than imabi, dolly, and Tae Kim did.

>>21512414
I'm in it for the degenerate porn that would make my mom cry if she knew I was looking at it.

>>21512414
family version does not count as reading.

>>21512419
>not going for round 2 immediately
The eroge you're playing is obviously not high quality enough.

>>21512419
what about all the words they used for dick?
dankon, nikusao, sao, nikubou, penisu, chinchin, ochinpo, danshiseki, etc etc

>>21512428
i already onanii like 3 times a day, i can't keep up with the 6 back to back 2 stage h scenes.

is it possible to get fuuri killed off in axanael? the rest are at least tolerable but i hate her so fucking much to the point i just control f through everything she says and does

>>21512447
why do you hate her so much? where did fuuri touch you?

>>21512414
>>21512423
u should be in it for the story but the ero is not optional
>>21512444
if u havent broke ur dick on eroge before can u even say ur learning nihongo
>>21512447
why is fuuri such a shit
one of the great mysteries

>>21512424
イヤー！なおとくん！やめろー！お母さんが…！ああああああああ！！！！！しまったー！

>>21512455
literally everything about her. her voice, her personality, her sprites, everything. she is so fucking annoying and generic it almost puts me to sleep

once i broke my dick but it was because of depression, i didn't have morning wood or sometimes it didn't stay hard
but now i'm fine and i have morning wood everyday :)

>>21512424
Good thing his computer doesn't face the window

>>21512455
she starts ok then she gets annoying and she culminates into the most selfish character in the vn which is a high bar to reach

i wrote the all ages thing as a joke cuz actually a lot of scripts get edited in other places outside of the ero for console releases not surprised none of u scrubs are grizzled erogamers that notice these things

>>21512482
why would i have played a console port of a perfectly good eroge ?

>>21512457
>if u havent broke ur dick on eroge before can u even say ur learning nihongo
i dont even know :(

>>21512492
sometimes ur on the go and just wanna keep reading on ur handheld gaming device

What should be my 1st VN, and why shouldn't it have all Loli heroines

>spend 30 minutes looking for what a word means, not in google, dictionaries, etc
>go back to read it in context
>character is acting like a total beginner at what they're doing
>reread the word out loud
>ビギナ

>>21512505
u shoulda just posted it here so i coulda made the witty reply of "the thing u r" in 3 minutes

>>21512505
check this one out, i'll give you a hint, it's not "sword of shotgun"

>>21512510
i know this 1 cuz of my rap videos

>>21512501
According to Heiseg, kids are the best teachers. I bet this is the real path to Nihongo, since you fulfill both the kid teacher and ero part in one go.

>>21512518
hiesieg is just a huge pedophile thats why he was interested in japan in the 1st place

>>21512518
Makes sense!

>take a picture of a japanese person
>they freak the fuck out

>>21512501
cause authors like to make them talk in pure kana and it'll be a pain in the ass to figure out which of the 50 possible homophones the bitch is talking about (assuming you're a beginner )

>>21512501
nekopara

>>21512501

>>21512532
what's this? looks cool

>>21512532
What is this meme?

>>21512526
thats true come to think of it if u wanna make a japanese person lose their shit and actually just murder u in the street immediately do all of the following things at the same time

take a picture of a japanese person while walking down the street while eating a hot dog sloppily dripping ketchup and shit everywhere while balancing a bowl rice on ur head with chopsticks sticking straight up out of it in the middle of the street during a anti foreigner rally

>>21512526
in highschool we had japanese students visit every year. they took pictures of us a lot.

How do I stop subvocalizing in a chuuni character voice while reading (think of, like, Lelouch or Reinhardt)?

>>21512542
yah but for them its like they are at the zoo

when u do it in japan the sacred holy land its actually very different

>>21512543
go back thru the last 3 years of threads and click all my links

>>21512538
japan gets angry at some stupid stuff *starts chasing car who flipped me off*

>>21512544
>they are at the zoo
Haha stupid American monkeys

>>21512543
Just listen to chuuni speaking 24/7

>>21512496
kek

>>21512543
why do you want that?

>>21512548
dude in some sea countries ppl honk their horns constantly and its not a signal of aggression its actually just the point of the horn in the first place

to alert ppl to where u are so every1 stays safe lmao

whereas in some monkey countries if u sound the horn its time to fight to the death cuz today aint ur day

>>21512526
>>21512538
you just have to walk around the streets harassing people with a raw octopus, throw it on windows and then on the back of a taxi, and then go and film a recently deceased suicide victim, that'll get em riled up

>>21512526
i'd love to see a video of this. like that one dude who walks up to random strangers in the US and films them and they get progressively more and more pissed off. but less assholish.

>>21512501
saya

>>21512538
>>21512562
I am just glad I have an american phone where I can turn the flash off. Sadly im 5 11 so it would be really hard to take upskirt shots.

>>21512575
flash* i meant shutter sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNGJiptqOhA

>>21512575
>>21512583
why not just be a man and ask the ladies directly if u can see their underwear

>>21512554
It's not very comfortable to be reading some shitty h-manga about a dude fucking his 9 year old sister while having some 貴族-like voice saying "そして、おマンコにちんぽが入れた。"

>>21512587
hows my approach?

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1mQVtBK9Eik

>>21512561
i live in one of the angry honker places. it's best to dodge the other car if you can. even if it's their fault.

>>21512591
that sounds hilarious, i'll start doing that during h-scenes

what are some good fully voiced VNs

>>21512598
i dont like it

>>21512601
thats right never escalate dude

the world is just 1 giant troll and theres a fuckhead out there every day thats willnig to just ruin his life to fuck u up cuz u tried to escalate

>>21512587
>>21512598

>>21512598
to add im not surprised this is ur true nature oreimo guy its very fitting

quiz when you wake up tomorrow i need some clarification on what exactly you did to get good. you recommend beginners watch anime with japanese subtitles and you said this would be sufficient reading practice but do you think it's also good listening practice? because i keep hearing from other people that watching anime with japanese subtitles just trains your reading and not your listening. is this where the anime cards come in? we should rely on anime cards to develop our listening? also is this what you did or did you also occasionally read lns and stuff.

>>21512603
うみねこのなく頃に

>>21512614
no worries jamal, after i move to japan i might even post a picture ;)

>>21512633
of what

>>21512638
idk what do you want me to take a picture of?

>>21512618
Hes never finished a vn so calling him good is a little...

>>21512644
a japanese person

>>21512644
akihabara. and no poser stuff like the underground weebshit

>>21512650
but they'll freak out

>>21512653
live dangerously and risk everything or what was even the point

>>21512652
and i will have my arms in the v shape saying aaa-ki-haa-ba-raa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yyfYmwOTrw

>>21512653
Fuck that. You can take a picture of my dick. I probably have reached a status of "famous gaijin flasher" by then who terrorizes the women and men of Tokyo

>>21512663
ull never see the quaint denki town in its true glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JXJAIWKxM4

>>21512670
sorry i dont think my zoom lens is powerful enough for that lol

>友達のおかげで、映画はただで見られた。
Why is で here?

>>21512698
おかげで is a set phrase.

read more

>>21512698
cuz if it wasnt ud be fucked

>>21512701
shit i meant the second one

>>21512618
Lmfao.
Also I’ve seen quiztard call people drones and shit for “dude just tell me exactly what to do”

>...、映画をただで見ることができた。

and the 2nd part of this variant is really alien. ごめん

>>21512701
well be that as it may theres still a grammatical reason that even curedolly could explain

>>21512706
its the same reason as the first so

>>21512618
not so hard, just read oreimo, and you will be better than everyone else here

>>21512709
doesn't matter if you wanna be the best you have to copy the best. "doing it your own way" is bullshit

>>21512726
cool, im not insane.. but the first one makes grammatical sense to me without knowing it was a phrase. what's the difference, i'm curious.

>>21512733
well its like タダで手に入るもの except ur going to 見る the 映画 and not 手に入る it

>>21512741
i have no idea what you're talking about cause i don't know what kind of comparison you're trying to make

i guess u just gotta watch more anime or look up で

グレイトだこいつ

世間ずれがしていないこと。ういういしいこと。また、そのさま。
does さま mean "appearance/state" here, so this would be:
>being innocent/unsophisticated, or the appearance of that.

@ all beginners don't make the same mistake i did and pick a "long" vn for your first one
i'm pretty sure i'm gonna die of age before i finish this i mean don't get it twisted i love it i've really enjoyed it so far but god DAMN i cannot even see the light at the end of the tunnel

>>21512821
how many characters do you get through a day? if you texthook and use the HTML template from the /r/vnhooking guide it tells you.

>>21512732
do what natives do then

>>21512844
idk bud i just play the game. and it's true that i only have time to put in an hour or two per day at best. that's i guess the main thing that made this a bad idea. i should also probably stop posting and read instead huh

i only average like 2500 characters a day at best no matter how many words i learn so i'm fucked

タコさんの触手と遊びたいです

>>21512856
If we assume 30 average characters per textbox you are only reading 83 vn pages per day which IS not a lot of reading (tm)

why is this legal? why haven't we beheaded every single person that puts more than one episode in a single file, the fuck am i supposed to do with these

>>21512908
i know. and i know people only got good fast at japanese by reading like 6-8 hours a day and i bet they get through like 30k characters or some crazy shit. i just can't bring myself to speed up my reading. i have to ponder for minutes over every other sentence.

>>21512821
whys it matter how often u finish if u enjoy it anyway

>>21512917
it just feels like i'd like to read a bigger variety of things rather than spending more than half a year on one single thing
it's probably just because of my past as a gamer, "completion = good progress" is stuck in my brain

>>21512915
that'll go away if you keep at it, anon. I believe in you

>>21512911
Just don't use them

>>21512945
no, fuck you, i'm separating them and i'll post all of them properly timed for the release i'm watching once i'm done

>>21512960
based and maca-pilled

I'm quite sick so I ended up watching 10+ hours of that dark souls let's play I've been linking, ask me anything. Going to bed now so I'll answer in the morning, don't let me down djt no minasan.

Where's a good place to read raws?

how does one make mine deck? im a total n00b

>>21513225
read the guide

I incorrectly mined 鳩尾 as みずおち more than a year ago AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I don't know what the fuck I did, but all of a sudden now when I'm typing Japanese, it doesn't type in romanji and then covert to kana. Instead, all of my keys just correspond with a certain kana as if I was using one of those Japanese keyboards. How do I change it back?

>>21513308
don't mine shit that's above your level kids

Nevermind I got it.

>>21513316
バックスペースのひだりのキー

２かいおすと

にほんごにゅうりょく

きれる

>>21513317
solar plexus isn't a complex word. but I remember when I saw it the first time it was in pure kanji form so I just picked the first yomikata I've found on google. turns out it was the wrong one.

飴が多くてお腹がいっぱいので全部食べきれないです

しゃんはいの

どうがみたいんだけど

けんさくしても

でてこない

>>21511365
I read the first volume of the のんのんびよりmanga (raw ofc) before I even knew there was an anime for it! And yes it was entertaining to me too, lots of good words in there as well.
I’m gonna try watching the anime and see how similar the dialogue is and how far it goes compared to the manga. 楽しみ！！

>>21512618
So my experience is that anime with japanese subtitles DOES train your listening — to an extent! Following along with the text as you listen, or mostly listening and peeking at the text to check etc, WILL help you associate the sounds with the language. But there becomes a point where it stops helping as much and starts becoming more of a crutch.

If you’re a beginner, you do not have to worry about that happening. It will be a great help for you to listen along with subtitles right now. After 100+ hours of that, as well as developing your vocabulary a lot more, see how you fair with no subs. Then go from there, watching more raw etc. There are stages to the progression.

I’m craving a big hot bowl of authentic 豚骨ラーメン …

I forgot the grammatical term but how do you know when the second kanji in a compound changes sound?
Like k - g, h - b/p, t - d

rendaku

>>21513514
that's it, thanks!

>>21513493
Isn't watching anime with japanese subtitles for listening practice like doing a test with the answer under every question? I suppose if it is just practice you could call it more like studying from a textbook. Turning them off is like taking the test for the material.

>>21513493
>>21513540
This is why you should have listened to jamal and watch anime with eng subs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbI79e5iZKs

hongkong
ホンコンどうなってるの

せんそう？

>>21513349
お腹が既にいっぱいなので、たくさんの飴はたべられない。
or
既に満腹なので、そんなにたくさんの飴はもういらない。

「飴」は、漢字を使わなくともよい。
>>21507596

>>21512896
奴らは美少女フィギュア好き。お前さんではない。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFmNko5jgi4

dont stray from the chart

かんとんごにくわしいおにちゃん

なんていってるのかおしえて

ＣＮＮしかなかった
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy7LvBSdnyE

にほんはしゅざいしてないみたい

>>21513569
Wow, そんなに情報は役に立っているから、教えてくれてありがとう

Fuck my reading is slow. I've spent a month playing hanahira but if I played it in English it would probably only take me half an hour to get to where I am now. I don't seem to be getting any faster either. At this rate I might be able to finish it by the end of the year.

>>21513633
read things that are actually interesting
not just interesting to you but in general
might i recommend something about 祠s

>>21513633
>a month playing hanahira
It should've taken 4 hours at most. How many routes have you gotten through?

>>21513655
>hanahira
>routes

extraditionってなに

あたしにはほとんどわからなかった

かぞくが香港にいって

たいほされたとおもったら

いつのまにか北京でころされたとか

そういうこと？

>>21513661
I consider every alternate choice to be a route.

>>21513665
国から他国へ渡す。他国の法廷に訪れさせられる。まずくなったら殺されるぞ。逃げろー！

>>21513633
are u enjoying urself or forcing it
>>21513655
>It should've taken 4 hours at most.
not if uve never read anything before lol

>>21513682
にほんも

アメリカのぐんじんさんだけは

にほんでたとえばレイプとかすると

アメリカにひきわたすよ

おかしいのかな？

>>21513655
Yeah, It's one the most moe games I've ever played even though I barely understand any of it. I just had a look at the concept art and I've only unlocked 4 out 20 shots, fuck me how is it possible to be this slow

あったー

ちょっとながかった
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8qpLjbKjEg

>>21511022
Where else would we get our dobutsu no murai reviews?

>>21511738
Probably like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91VtpxEDlIw&t=535
Are you the senshinkan guy from before if so good job not giving up.

>>21511744
No you haven't read the manga because it's not reading.

>>21512383
>>21512591
>>21513431
See above

>>21511849
That used to be one of the best parts of these threads can someone start doing it again please- oh I spoke too soon >>21513493

>>21512625
He said good.

>>21512937
Just play baldr sky like some people in here were doing before they disappeared I wonder if they ever finished it.

the main ballr finished and was putting off dive2 but i think he started it and disappeared again

What is with this manga is not reading meme?

>>21511332
where do I watch Peppa Pig in Jap?

>>21513795
someone needed a personal meme to force so that every time he pops in the thread everyone sees that its him

>>21513773
All me.

what news site do you recommend to read if NHK News Easy got too easy?

>>21513847
>news
are you a boomer

>>21513854
>being ignorant of current affairs
are you a dolt

>>21513847
just graduate to nhk

>>21513854
i didnt follow news before learning jap, but i found it an interesting way to learn the language
im more interested in studying the language via it than the actual news

>>21513735
１じかんはながかった


香港政府が中国共産党にbannedされて

香港の普通選挙がbannedされて

香港に住んでる人の意見はかわってないのに

政治してる人が中国の人にかわっちゃったって

いってるきがする


香港って軍隊もってますか？

>>21513847
You could try TBS news, there is also some yahoo.jp site, where you can read news from a few different sites; I am currently on my phone, so I can't send you a link

産経新聞 ＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞＞毎日新聞 ＞＞＞＞NHK＞＞＞部落 ＞＞＞＞＞＞朝日新聞 ＞＞＞東京新聞

>>21513712
>out 20 shots
I didn't know there were that many CGs I hadn't unlocked yet.
By the way, have you tried using a texthooker?

>>21513540
>Isn't watching anime with japanese subtitles for listening practice like doing a test with the answer under every question
what you autists fail to realize is that language learning doesn't always have to be a TEST!
some things are about just training associations. if you hear a sentence and look at the written sentence at the same time, your brain will have no choice but to start to associate the two. that process is also a vital part of learning especially for beginners who are new to both spoken and written language.

>>21513548
>This is why you should have listened to jamal and watch anime with eng subs...
jamal doesn't know jack

>>21513963
Where would you put 読売？

やくそくをまもるのが

いいことなのは

おうべいとにほんくらい？


けっきょくのところ

きのうの香港事変は「やくそくをやぶったひとがいる」

というふまんがおおきいとおもう

やくそくはまもるほうがいいよね

>>21513974
Did you read the next sentence?

a beginner's main goals for listening practice are
1. getting used to how spoken words and phrases sound in japanese -- where it's natural to pause, hearing what natural "pitch accent" sounds like (doesn't mean they have to practice it, before some retards hop on my dick)
2. learning to associate written words and sentences and grammar with the way they sound correctly spoken by natives

once those goals are achieved THEN that's when it's time for goals like "comprehend spoken japanese at full speed without subtitles" enter the picture. trying to skip to that step before securing the first two is a recipe for completely unnecessary frustration.

making things harder for yourself does not necessarily equal better results. get that shitty self-punishing thinking out of your autistic skulls

>>21514002
a little after 産経

>>21514005
yes, all the sentences sucked

Anyone know good radio news other than NHK?

僕は肛門括約筋が震えている。

quality sentence, courtesy of a japanese youtube comment

輪郭
ステューウィーの輪郭レモンにしか見えん

>>21513963
しんぶん？

あたしのちいきでは

しずおかしんぶんと

ちゅうにちしんぶんがある

ちほーしんぶん

>>21514052
http://www.fm946.com/
http://www.simulradio.info/asx/FmKushiro.asx

>tfw i don't read to consolidate the grammar rules i have "learned"
why am i retarded, lads?
>tfw my japanese language partner has reached conversational level in german in 8 months

>>21513619
いえいえ。

でも、誤解がない様にもう一度整理すると、漢字を書かなくても良いルールは、
あくまでも出版物(学校の教科書や語学の参考書は除く)などでのケース(事例)なんだ。
お役所が使う書類(公文書)の漢字や送り仮名にも実は独自のルールが存在するんだけど、
これも学校(大学でさえも)では教えてはいないんだ。別に覚える必要はないんだけどね。
https://www1.g-reiki.net/city.kobe/reiki_honbun/k302RG00001494.html

>>21514110
Why though, one of the best parts of learning things is spotting them in the wild for the first time and recognising the pattern and understanding. You get that feeling that what you're doing is actually valid and you are learning.

>>21514122
ほうりつにほんご

わかりにくくない？

extraditionしらべたんだけど

これよむのに

１しゅうかんくらいかかりそう
http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/law/detail_main?re=&vm=1&id=1879

>>21514088
Thanks senpai

>>21514126
>one of the best parts of learning things is spotting them in the wild for the first time and recognising the pattern and understanding. You get that feeling that what you're doing is actually valid and you are learning.
yes!

any viable way to use Netflix Japan outside of Japan that still works? is there a way to download movies from Netflix?

I read that it's not possible to download

>>21513812
youtube. there's a 24/7 stream.

Reminder.

>>21514329
Who is the person posting when we get slight bounce backs?

>>21513981
whatever u gotta tell urself to make accepting failure easier

>>21514329
I only come here to see if anyone posts links to new resources, but even then I still get sucked into the shitposting.

>>21514138
そう、とってもわかりにくい。
実は日本人でもちゃんと読める人は大学を卒業していても多いとは言えないんだ。
日本の大学でも法律に携わる勉強をしていない限りは、基礎的な常識程度しか習わないからね。

それと、その法律は、明治20年(1887年)の「条例」を基(もと)にして改正されたものだから、
元々の条文自体が古い文体で、オリジナルはもっと言い回しが面倒な事になっているよ。
そのサイトで英語の翻訳文も出せるけど、所々どの日本語に該当するのかわからなくなる筈さ。
例えば、「無期(むき)」と有れば、それは「無期懲役(むきちょうえき)」の略で、
「死ぬまで刑務所内で過ごさなければならない(刑罰：けいばつ)」と言う意味なんだけど、
ある意味「専門用語」とも言えるから、一般常識の範疇(はんちゅう)を超えているんだ。

もう少しだけ書くと、その法律で頻繁に出て来る読みにくいと思われる単語は、
「現代かな遣い」で「もしくは」とする所は、漢字の「若(も)しくは」になっているし、
「○って」も、「○つて」＝大きな「つ」にしているのも昔の書き方の1つで有る事位かな。
下の通達では「大文字・小文字」ではなく「大書き・小書き」と言う表記を使っているけどね。
http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/Jusl/Bunsyo/yayuyotu.html
新しい法律では、「旧かな遣い」をしているものは無いけど、それでも読みやすいとは言えないと思う。

死にたい。

>>21513646
man it's great every time when anonymous nobodies posture in this thread and a native blows them out

>>21514447
わざとわかりにくして

いじわるしたいのはわかる

おとながよくやるやつ

>>21513633
>>21513646
This, I made way more progress with sanarara than I did with hanahira despite it throwing shit like 〆 at me regularly.

>>21514470
in this case the native actually blowed themself out being totally illiterate

>tfw know a little bit of hiragana but im too retarded to know what a lot of words mean in hiragana
>tfw I only know like 3 out of the nearly 3000 kanji that's required
>tfw the kanji I know are 死 (shi like in 死んだ), 私 (watashi)、 and 赤 (aka)
>tfw know only a couple of phrases like kanpai, ohayou, genki desu ka, wakarimasen, sumimasen, ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo and a bunch of shounen jump tier shit.
How fucked am I if I visit Japan? How much Japanese would I need to know if any? I know that Japanese are very forgiving to foreigners for not knowing Japanese, but I don't wanna disrespect their culture and look like a fucking weeb.

>>21514527
>>>/trv/
This is a Japanese learning thread. Please ask questions where appropriate.

>>21514537
I'm trying to learn japanese, you nitwit.

>>21514527
too late u already have and do

just stay within ur designated gaijin tourist area and dont trouble regular ppl just tryin to live their lives

>>21514543
Okay and? Am I supposed to read your mind and answer the Japanese learning question you never asked? You know everybody wants to learn Japanese but most people never stop sucking ass and you seem to be a hardcore ass sucker.
>>>/trv/japan
>>>/int/djt
Get out of /jp/

why r u so upset and backseat modding quiztard

>>21514553
he does this a lot with greentexting and early DJT threads too....wtf....

well u arent supposed to make a new thread till the old 1 dies thats how it always was since the beginning

>>21514527
Not knowing an extremely difficult language when you go to visit is not disrespecting anything. Would you be worried about "disrespecting the culture" of any other country if you went to visit and didn't speak the native language? Holy fuck weebs are retarded sometimes.

Don't touch the language unless you're actually into it. Go to Japan and enjoy your time there as a tourist. Like any other country, they'll care a lot more about your general behavior like not littering, being loud and obnoxious etc.

since when have 4channers cared about tradition we buck the trend and do it our own way

>>21514566
well u see its more fun that way cuz then like 3 ppl make threads and its a battle to see who survives

what a great feature.

>>21514544
>>21514550
グレトですよこいつは

>>21514565
I would feel disrespectful if I visited a place and hardly spoke a lick of their language.
Also to pick up qt3.14 real life animu girl

>>21514576
Boy are you in for a rude awakening when you realize Japan's just a regular country and nobody gives a fuck about you being able to string a few sentences together. From your prior post you basically know 0 Japanese so enjoy 2-3 years of daily study so you don't feel like you're insulting the culture lmao

>>21514527
>>>/trv/
you don't need to know any japanese to enjoy traveling in japan

honestly if u dont wanna insult the culture then dont disgrace the language with ur gaijin stink

japanese ppl would prefer to have u not actively crippling their own japanese and honestly if i was a dad out with his kids and there was some gaijin blowhard spewing mangled japanese id knock him out cuz i dont have enough arms to cover all my kids ears

>>21514593
implying the average japanese middle aged manlet has enough punching power to knock out any westerner

>>21514597
it doesnt take much power if u get em on the chin just right dude

im so sick of you rich braindead westerners who can afford to go to japan with your gay ass lack of any jap skills and brainiacs who actually know more than mere basics have to stay home and read your faggy posts, because they happened to be born in the wrong part of the world where they cannot afford le random trip to le quirky Japan xD

>>21514458
Imaizumi :(

>>21514598
im not convinced, most of them couldn't even reach my chin

>>21514599
Fucking hell nothing sweeter than the tears of a raging shitskin third worlder lmao

>>21514625
no, just a slav
i'm glad i made your day with my butthurt

>>21514620
well honestly youd be lucky if they just wanted to do fisticuffs anyway cuz the truth they aint gonna fight a gaijin they are gonna unsheathe their katana or switchblade or just roll up brandishing a large kitchen knife and proceed to purify the land that way

>>21514629
I'm also a Slav for what it's worth (yes I know I'm also a third worlder, it's still funny)

hey how do you say im gay in japanese

わたしは男としてちんこしゃぶりたい

>>21514638
私はゲイです

>>21514580
>so enjoy 2-3 years of daily study so you don't feel like you're insulting the culture lmao
For one, I'm trying to only learn enough to get around easily.
Secondly, I'm a poorfag so it'll probably take me 2-3 years to get enough money to visit :^)
>>21514589
Well maybe I do need to know some Japanese to enjoy Japan.
>>21514593
>id knock him out
Japanese people tend to avoid confrontations. And I doubt you could knock me out, you slant-eyed sideways pussy having yellow skinned rice-eating anime loving gook.

>>21514599
don't worry bro, I'm a braindead westerner and I can't afford a trip to Japan either.

>>21514645
ソイ　ホモセクシュアル

>>21514658
Christ you're a complete and utter fucking moron. Good luck.

>>21514658
just cuz they tend to doesnt mean ur still not rollin the dice dude

theres a guy in fact many guys (and girls) in japan right now who is at his/her wits end and is ready to give in and become chaos incarnate and just rip ur guts out and strew them around in the middle of the street

i hope ur prepared for the dangers is all

>>21514665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l3_gwIOTGI#t=147

>>21514527
The only phrases you need to know to travel to Japan are "あの,[place name]はどこですか？", "ありがとうございます。", "これはいくらですか？" (+ the expected response).
You should probably know numbers (not all the counters, but at least 1-10, ひゃく, せん, まん, and the つs, like ひとつ, ふたつ, みっつ, etc.), the four cardinal points, right (みぎ), and left (ひだり) too.
Signs in train stations are full of hiragana, and menus usually have hiragana or katakana too.
Travelling to Japan knowing only a few words in Japanese is probably not optimal, but it's better than nothing.

>>21514658
I don't like you but despite that I'm going to give you some advice.
Buy genki 1 & 2 make sure to not skip any problems, take it slowly if you have too.
After 6 month or a year of that you get hellotalk and start using Japanese with Japanese people don't eat manga or watch anime as a beginner because they use中二病 Japanese and that will make you sound like a weeb.
If you want to go hardcore then buy rtk with genki so you can learn kanji too.

>>21514700
fuck off dude why are you helping him with all the good shit

Why do you people entertain the pea brain who said he knows nothing and probably doesn't give two fucks about learning anything asking about travel in Japan instead of properly telling him to fuck off like he should?
This more than anything else makes me want to stop browsing the thread. I can live with you guys being a bunch of retards incapable of learning Japanese, but if you are the equivalent of redditor mouth breathers then I have no interesting wasting another second with you. You made me seriously consider not posting anymore, because this is all way too pathetic for me to even be worth looking at.