/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21502647
犯さないで

>他人事
>人事
you fuckin kiddin me japanese?

為人 lol

た　たうえ

>>21502683
I've seen たにんごと so I kind of prefer that reading though yes it would be semantically identical to ひとごと

How's your immersion going today, boys?

Making Matt and Yoga proud?

どおしぃて 二本ご むずカしい ですぅか？

whats a good jp youtuber that doesnt talk a billion miles per hour

>>21502873
Dunno. Look up trending videos on Youtube. If you watch enough of them, you'll eventually get used to the way real 日本人 talk.

>>21502832
Does reading LARP threads on 2chan count as immersion?

JLPT Tango N5 N4 decks got finally uploaded to Cornucopia

N5:
https://mega.nz/#!PjZCnCaT!qh2avtrLw-fHdY3kSmUbO3ElwA13ZxYxS5ra3gF1ho8

N4:
https://mega.nz/#!OmYwWQob!x3UZsh5qE4WunADahdxrVzOvGlVfPCAxbtzBcfctYF4

>>21502532
>tfw 小１ students already have a 99% 検定１ 合格 rate
no they do not.... i work with 3rd graders and many of them still write in all kana.

Will someone explain to me why people do the thing where they get the い形容詞, conjugate it to have a く ending, then put in the は particle? I’ve seen it a bunch of times, but still can’t fully understand how that works and google doesn’t help.

>>21502938
Are these any different than the ones "pea brain matt" accidentally leaked on Twitter?

>>21502988
these are the same, thanks to Matt!

>>21502962
I think the は is just to add emphasis, like when you use it between て and いる. Got any usage examples to share?

Do the jlpt levels get exponentially harder or something?

>>21502938
Oh those are pretty nice if you are just starting
probably better than core or anime mining from the start

MACA goes like this now
First do those Tango decks (pirate them and don't pay Matt or for the books)
and then do MASSIVE ANIME CARDS
good shit

>>21503000
>我輩にわざわざ隠すほどのことならば深くは聞かないでありますよ
I more or less understand the sentence but the things like 深くは just make me wonder y’know.

>>21503018
Red MACA caps when?

>>21502938
>JLPT N5
>JLPT N4
Why would someone use these premade decks over over Core6K? I don't understand the appeal.

>>21503011
The gap between １級 and ２級 is supposed to be larger than the gap between ５級 and ２級.

>>21503033
it gets exponentially easier to learn japanese tho so it balances out unless you continue to anki drone

>>21503028
MACA has no caps
MACA only has capes
and when we have conquered Japanese and united all Japanese learners under one banner
we will raise a glorious 勝鬨
https://streamable.com/frk9o

>>21503026
Yeah, that looks like it's being used for emphasis.

You're probably best Googling or maybe asking in the Japanese thread on /int/ to be sure before taking my word for it though.

>>21503018
yeah anime cards are the shit, can't believe i ever doubted. loving it so far.

>>21503048
While most here hate it, I genuinely respect you for your grandiosity. You are the 凄腕poster who will burn this fucking 胡散臭いMIA shit to the ground. I believe.

>>21503033
It's extremely hard to get from "I know fairly well a language" to "I've mastered every single aspect of it and know most of the slang the natives use"
A good example is French, my mother tongue. Of course you could speak very well after several years and know many tenses like futur simple, passé antérieur, conditionnel passé, etc. but when you start talking about subjonctif passé, futur antérieur... most non-natives start scratching their heads as they have a hard time wrapping them about those concepts and why the conjugation is so mind-numbingly complex.
It's like with every thing: you learn easy stuff at first, and then, the deeper you go, the harder things become.

Reminder that Quizmaster is a fraud and the real anime cards are anon's. https://streamable.com/f4gxv
Also basic and intermediate grammar are best learned from massive amounts of compelling input, even if it's barely comprehensible.
You can read Tae Kim to make it easier to get through large amounts of compelling input but don't bother studying consciously past that point.
MACI - Massive Amounts of Compelling Input

>yeah anime cards are the shit, can't believe i ever doubted. loving it so far.

not listening to the anime sentence until you've recalled the word's 発音 and 意味 by itself first, i agree with now after trying both ways.
however i still believe the picture is better placed on the front, along with the word.
>>21503084
>"I've mastered every single aspect of it and know most of the slang the natives use"
no one has mastered every single aspect of any language though as a native english speaker there are still things i skip/ignore/couldn't be bothered trying to figure out. they're just much rarer now.

the only things i still disagree with QM on is that picture should go on the front.

>>21503091
>https://streamable.com/f4gxv
holy shit

how will quiztard ever recover?

>>21503094
>https://streamable.com/f4gxv
have fun uploading all those videoclips lol this is rape to anki's servers

>>21503107
why would you enable media sync on a profile that has videos in it

>>21503111
so you're only planning to review on the computer? ok

>>21503107
They're only around 10x bigger than the sentence audio alone, plus you can just drop the quality settings a lot if you want a super small video. You can notice that this video is downscaled a lot already, for example.

>>21503063
>>21503072
I'm not good at replying to positive comments but I appreciate it really cool

>>21503094
>>21503107
I already explained it. Those cards have pretty much no advantage over normal anime cards, are more of a pain in the ass, can't be phone reviewed, you need to press the play button to play the video every time etc. but the guy keeps spamming the 1 card he made like it means anything when I've actually shown anime cards work by making over 10000 of them
it just looks cool one time but these are actual gimmick cards while anime cards are a deeply thought through concept and optimized to be as close to perfection as possible
so far everyone who tried to improve on anime cards failed because they didn't understand them in the first place

>>21503123
>Those cards have pretty much no advantage over normal anime cards
Visual context?
>can't be phone reviewed
>>21503121
>you need to press the play button to play the video every time
This is actually a good thing and you can easily make them autoplay after a small delay (to let the word audio play) with a little very basic scripting.

>>21503128
>Visual context?
yes my cards have visual context
whether it moves or not isn't important because if you watched the show and hear the audio you'll be able to picture the situation perfectly
besides the animation isn't the important thing but what is actually being said, the part of the language that you want to learn from
it's no advantages with a lot of disadvantages and if you want to bring the argument anime cards are hard to make then this is just even harder for no reason
so stop spamming your gay cards like they are in any way a replacement for real anime cards lol
you probably don't even make them yourself just made 1 card to spam DJT with
show off 10 cards right now, should be no problem as you actually use your method right? if it takes you a fair amount of time I'll assume you just made them

>>21503141
>this is just even harder for no reason
It takes the same amount of effort to actually make though.
The rest of your post is just being buttmad that you never decided to go through with making actual anime cards instead of ghetto dollar store AnImEcArDz that are just vocab cards with an anime screenshot on the back and someone got to it before you lmao.
>show off 10 cards right now, should be no problem as you actually use your method right?
I deleted my deck because normal vocab cards are better. I said that normal vocab cards were better in the original argument you had with me where I first posted this. I could make a fresh deck right now without much effort but I'd have a hard time finding stuff to mine since I basically know everything in the shows that I watch now.

草履虫 showed me that 虫 does not mean "bug"

Why keep it at anime and anki? Just use live action material like movies/series and upload the cards to a video platform like BitChute.

>>21503160
歯車 showed me that 車 does not mean car.

>>21503153
>normal vocab cards are better
not even remotely lol
>I'd have a hard time finding stuff to mine since I basically know everything in the shows that I watch now
doubt it

>>21503161
live action usually bores the shit out of me 2d is better

>>21503170
It's not about being boring (it's just a few sec of footage) but about showing context. It's ridiculous to act "3D NOT ALLOWED" in this context. Grow the fuck up.

>>21503153
lol you are full of shit
come on the quiz and prove you actually know jack shit because I think you are just pulling shit out of your ass :
https://discord.gg/5K5jQjG

>>21503179
Why would I accept a challenge to a game that you play but I don't? That would be retarded. My posts don't have anything to do about my skill level anyway, why the fuck are you trying to challenge me to a quiz? Talk about being an egotistical prick. Were you hurt so much by the observation that you would've come up with real anime cards if you realized that there weren't that hard to make or sync?

>>21503170
Honestly for me it's the opposite for like 15-20 years I was obsessed with anime but the more japanese I've learned the less I've been interested in it and the more interested I've become in wider japanese culture.

>>21503175
who the fuck said its not allowed lmao i said i personally dont care for it. people can't have preferences? fuck off old man

and if it's boring it defeats the purpose.

>>21503188
what game dude
the only thing you gotta do is read words
your excuse doesn't fly because both matt and jamal fan came on and performed spectacularly on their first try
you don't even have to play with me, play it by yourself just to prove your knowledge
you just suck ass and don't know shit
making shit up completely clueless about what actually works
loser

>>21503188
>Why would I accept a challenge to a game that you play but I don't?
how stupid can you be. there is NOTHING unique about the quiz, it's just fucking japanese words you have to type the reading for. you're acting like he's challenging you to a yugioh duel when you only play duelmasters or some shit. you're BOTH studying japanese so you BOTH should know N1 level japanese words.

How do you guys mine words? Just mine everything unknown and common you come across and let it pile up or only a little bit so you can actually finish it on the same day?

Oh yeah, I realized that Ankiweb never actually deleted my old video media for some reason before I disabled media sync, so I have something resembling proof. I'm pretty sure I can't download the media alone (remember, no more cards associated with this media!) because of how anki and ankiweb work, and I'm not interested in expending the effort to find a way to get the media off of it. Even if I did, there's no more card data associated with it, so it would be pointless. About equivalent to me taking random clips from anime and claiming that they're from anime cards that I long-since deleted.

This number works out to having made about 100 or 200 cards with my old video encoding settings before disabling media sync, and I disabled it after a month or so of using the format, and I used it for seven months.
>>21503201
Mad.
>>21503207
Stop phone-samefagging.

So is there a link somewhere to these anime cards?

>>21503210
>How do you guys mine words? Just mine everything unknown and common you come across and let it pile up or only a little bit so you can actually finish it on the same day?
so since i've switched to primarily anime cards, i just keep mining from the anime till i reach 30 cards. then i either keep watching but not mining anything, or go do something else (and still not mine anything). basically just set a daily limit and stop mining once it's reached. don't forbid yourself from continuing to get input though. for the rest of your input for the day just look stuff up without adding. letting stuff pile up will most likely fuck you up.

also i personally don't mine uncommon shit. just stuff i don't know yet that seems like it may come in handy later. i'm not mining "paramecium" for example.

>>21503214
>Stop phone-samefagging.
i'm not quizmaster dumbass. i just agree that you are full of shit lol, not hard to see. i've challenged quizmaster and he's better at the quiz than me because he clearly knows more words. but at least i don't get on here and make bullshit excuses while pretending to be better than him like you do. now that's pathetic.

>>21503240
Man, I haven't seen samefagging this obvious since I looked at my own posts from two years ago. Feels good to have outgrown my obsessive phrase. Time to continue watching anime.

>>21503252
i guess it must be too painful to admit to yourself that two or more people think you're full of shit, so that's what you have to tell yourself.

>>21503063
where to find those cards?

m8 i think u missed the part where he said he doesnt have anything 2 prove b/c hes a big boy who dont give a flyin' fuck and how good he is at the nihongo doesnt matter anyw/
insert jamal tripcode and image with キャプチャ.jpg as the filename

m8 i think u missed the part where he said he doesnt have anything 2 prove b/c hes a big boy who dont give a flyin' fuck and how good he is at the nihongo doesnt matter anyw/
please insert ur "anime cards" into hither receptacle

As someone who has accumulated about 2000 anime cards, I agree with quiz. There is no advantage gained by including video in your anime cards. There are disadvantages though.

>>21503220
>>21503267
yeah please, tell

>>21503267
you make em yourself bro. matt vs japan on youtube has a 6 minute tutorial for a program called sharex, i finally figured out how to set it up once i watched that. it makes it easy to copy past audio and a screenshot from any anime you're watching, into a vocab card auto-generated from yomichan etc.

i timed myself and the whole process of making a card, from pausing the anime ep to continuing it, takes 30 seconds on average. this is to get a card complete with the vocab word, reading, screenshot from anime, audio clip from the anime, and definition. not bad since i just started. will probably get faster as i get used to it.

sharex tut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS7WzYICAsk

>>21503283
But the posts in this thread suggest there are anime cards someone is making for others to use >>21503091

>>21503278
>>21503220
you just make anki vocab cards from anime you watch with a screenshot and audio, there's nothing special about it

Why is Quizmaster so narcissistic?

>>21503298
ask yourself why he bothers you more than the 50 other shitposters here who are constantly talking crap to others

sub 110 IQ posters think they're just plain vocab cards with an image added or whatever but if you are capable of analyzing concepts with any amount of depth you'll come to realize that they are so much more

>>21503306
they are vocab cards with an image and audio, if there's anything more to it please do tell

maybe I haven't been posting flashcard videos often enough
https://streamable.com/jyhp3
there are anime cards
you make them yourself from anime you are watching
they are essentially heavily modified word cards with a specific method of reviewing

>heavily modified
>specific method of reviewing

おはよう

コロコロって

えいごでなんていったらつうじますか

おしえて

>they are vocab cards with an image and audio, if there's anything more to it please do tell

how people can think this in the context of krashen i dont known. that fucking "please do tell" is telling of a sub 110 IQ trying to sound like a big brain. enjoy your mediocre existence lacking in any real value or depth since you are unable to analyse things and put 2 and fucking 2 together.

>>21503339
so there's nothing more to it

>>21503334
何に使う？
ペイントなら「paint roller」がいい！

You keep bringing up 110 specifically like it's something to be proud of.

>i cant read between the lines or evaluate concepts with relation to each other, therefore anime cards are no more than mere vocab cards with compelling content on the back, how is this more efficient than just vocab cards with (at best) a gimped context sentence on the back??

>>21503365
>>21503334
塗料なら「paint roller」がいい
って言いたかった、すいません

everyone knows 130+ is something to be a little proud of. sub 110 is to make it clear how gimped you must be to not see the language acquisition value inherent in everything that distinguishes anime cards from regular yomichan one clickers

>>21503274
wtf is ur issue

>>21503365
>>21503381
じゅうたんにおちた

かみのけを

おそうじするもの

コロコロ

　 　 　 　 　 　はけ
塗料をぬるのは刷毛っていうよ

not a sharex fag but why not just add a custom uploader for ankiconnect so you don’t have to waste time editing the card it’s just automatic

Do the japs have a shorthand phrase for “usually written using kana alone”

>>21503267
You're supposed to make them yourself.
The anki guide in the op has a bit on the Quizmaster® Massive Anime Cards Approach™.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anki.html#import3

now this is the worst djt of all time

>>21503385
hey man dont hate im on the good side

>>21503391
あっごめん、これだと思ってた

>>21503383
>the language acquisition value inherent in everything that distinguishes anime cards from regular yomichan one clickers
but i'm not comparing them to yomichan one clickers
i'm saying they're nothing more than vocab cards with screenshot and audio

>>21503391
髪の毛を拾う奴ならば「lint roller」っていうんだ

of course how did we not think of this before

the more shit u cram on a card the more shit u learn lol its geniOus

>>21503412
なんと失礼な

なんなんだよてめぇはぁ

はーッ

>>21503409
それが「はけ」

>>21503412
りんと

ろらあ

なまえがかっこいい

ｺﾛｺﾛよりうれそう

>>21503404
wow I didn't even know it had a section
amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8BsheNCf8Q#t=36

>>21503179 oh no no no no no hes posting is typing speed test again like it means anything lmao

>>21503442
it's the retard again thinking it's a typing speed test when you get 30 seconds to type out 1 word
pathetic

>>21503446 do you have to type the answer in a certain time frame yes so it is a typing speed test

how many months has it been and quiztard can still only challenge ppl to kanji quizzes lol

should b a good enough indicator of how much progress ull make doing his idiot cards LOL

>>21503448
by that logic there is nothing without a time limit because the time limit on everything is ultimately your death dumb as shit

>>21503452 does your typing speed test test comprehension of nihongo no lol

>>21503429
Your fans used feedback.
http://users3.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g36-28922-76
My suggestion was deleted but yours is still there.
He ignores valid feedback and does stupid shit we don't need.
What a fucking prick, worst op maintainer yet.

careful hes gonna post some anime at u and ask u to transcribe or translate it or ask u some dumb question or w.e lol while never providing his own answer lol

>>21503448
>>21503461
are you still mad about the countless times I destroyed you lol

>>21503457
honestly if u use any thing in the "guide" or the "op" u deserve it

shit in is shit out

*preses post butan*

Anime cards are gay as fuck

>>21503467
hard to take u seriously with ur pink sock waggling back and forth like a dogs tail

>>21503467 i dont know who you think ur talking to but im not them maybe you should tell the jlpt guys they shud be using your typing speed test instead of their current ones lmao yes i have an n1 in typing speed LOL

>>21503457
All jokes and shitposting aside, please stop talking badly about itazura anon.
There is no justification for bad mouthing him. People often have conflicting interests and preferences, playing along to all that is an incredible effort.
He really is far more than we deserve. If you really feel strongly about something elaborate with some compelling arguments.

>>21502938
does anyone have the N3 deck of this series?

>>21503485
This.
If anything he fixed the site up recently.
Added a vn and retro game database too.

Can't tell who's worse, AJATTers or these tripfag larpers

>>21503428
ｗ「lint roller」はかっこいいって初めて聞いた
コロコロって聞くとコロコロ漫画しか浮かんでこない

>>21503485
He just needs to stop fucking up the site layout in retarded ways and refusing to accept any criticism when people try to tell him that he's just made it harder to use yet again with each revision.

Why can't he just use a nice, simple layout like the original? Why did convert half the site to Japanese when it's aimed at beginner learners making it so that now they keep coming here asking where shit is because they can't read コルヌコピア, and also because the sections he chooses to put stuff under is just baffling (Why is the CoR, full of Anki decks, in the fucking Library section? Are Anki decks books? Why are the Sakubi, Boiro, etc. grammar guides not located in the fucking Grammar Guides section?).

His design decisions are just utterly baffling and confusing and he refuses to accept any criticism about them just telling anyone who complains that they're mentally ill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXNz75bdD9c#t=3

>>21503501
>Can't tell who's worse, AJATTers or these tripfag larpers
you. you're worse than all of them

>MIA one year, i know katakana but when i see it in the wild its weird, like i cant read it

https://youtu.be/0vnK8X6z8QQ?t=77

>>21503524
u know this is the vid thats gonna make me ask

whys that dude look like such a fuckin gooch lol

Come on beginners, you ain't even on this punk-ass bitch's level

also looks like he tore all the kanji posters off the walls imagine that happened during his rage filled mental separation between him and mia lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aA2JZz1p6Q

>>21503535
i honestly cant watch this video without wanting to shitpost everything he says in green

>>21503502
パラパラまんがならしってる

>>21503508
Fuck off qm

Does anyone have the JP subs for Yuru camp? The ones from kitsunekko are Chinese for some reason despite being listed as jap

>>21503579
is that guy in bed this guy cuz that looks like his room lol

https://streamable.com/yg0wk

When you come across new vocab do you just look/listen? Or do you write it.out at all? I tend to write it once, then never again unless I forget when it comes up for review.

some new words i just start seeing everywhere others i forget em and who cares they prolly werent as important anyway : )

>>21503584
>https://streamable.com/yg0wk
>HTML and CSS
>programming
Wew

>>21503603
CSS3 is programming.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2497146/is-css-turing-complete

does anyone have a link to m**t's latest livestream?

Why are people here so obsessed with irrelevant little YouTubers? Like who gives a fuck about some need and their circlejerk.

>>21503621
People like meta japanese shitposting more than actual learning and they need something to fuel their shitposts so here we are

i just like to lol so thank god we have them as well as kids like qmac

i forgot to sleep so my reps are taking forever fuck

heres the only reps u need to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhXCzP5pbOk#t=64

i have a bad habit of reciting the definitions of nouns as verbs when doing reps e.g. for "応援" i'd think "to help/aid". am i fucked?

>>21503868
what do u mean

応援 is a noun

when u add する it becomes a verb

>>21503868
just add in する after any applicable noun and you're gucci

>>21503879
yea it's a noun but i think of it as a verb when repping, without する being there.

>>21503884
so remember the する thing and stop it ?

>>21503887
i'm trying

reason #69 flashtards permanently cripple ur nihongo

this guy >>21503868

>>21503868
I used to do that, after a while it went away and I started associating them with the object/action itself.
Just try to do it faster, don't read the definitions every time unless you messed up.

おうえんするときは

ファイトオーっていう

fightだとおもう

ほうげんかもしれない

>>21503868
>>21503902
Ignore jamal, he went full tard mode (even worse than QM) a while back.
It's prolly just another guy larping as him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAs9HZC9c7Y#t=107

btw i go by geoff genki now

i have to rep my language clique

turns out the g in [1g] stood for genki this whole time

Now I know I'm gonna make it.

>>21503999
no its calvin mia u got it backwards like wearing thong underwear backwards

https://streamable.com/vapwh

yo this is my actual name and i think i'm gonna make it. i'll upload a video a couple years from now shouting out matt and djt for the help.

mia is a good acronym because they all just quit japanese one day and delete their social media lol

黒人音楽投稿禁止

>>21504051
I believe in you all

>>21504051
i agree with this

Damn I accidentally replied to that post

is there a list of all the mandatory readings for japanese pupils?

>>21504169
ook i read on reddit that theres no such a thing in japan

no idea. i just look up words.

>>21504002
wow that's fucking rude

>>21503868
j-j dictionaries fix this

>>21504184
japs struggle to read anything made before 1950
this is what happens when you have a retarded writing system

>>21504051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqjV7w9Sat8#t=49

>>21504214
>japs struggle to read anything made before 1950
japs do but advanced learners like matt and yoga don't.

yah cuz they just dont read lol

Japs can't read old writings because they retardified their language because a*ericans asked them to

>Jump through some hoops registering for a jap online shop that prefers an obscure proxy service for overseas customers
>The item you wanted to buy is out of stock
Aw dangit fuck you japan.

very insightful thx for the post

Picking up my RTK reps after 3 months
there's 900 so half of what I had learned
time to ganbatte through this shit

>>21504496
you're gonna make it bro

Do you think there is a professor somewhere who specializes in the research if hentaigana?

do u think theres a professor somewhere who specializes in the research of hentai ?

me

>>21504525
Me. True story last night I jacked it too hard and my penis swelled up massively about an hour after. It still hasn't gone back to normal yet.

>>21504540
i remember getting poison ivy and im particularly allergic to it so if i get even a bit of it ill have it all over me and that of course means on the good old balls and pecker and ill tell u jacking off with poison ivy to hentai was prolly the greatest feeling ive ever felt in my life

>>21504540
Some guy at my work place actually called in sick one day saying he jacked off too hard and broke his dick.

>>21504561
if i was ur boss or whoever taking that call id ask meekly "uh can i see it ?"

you can't learn japanese

>>21504386
yoga struggles to talk without sounding like a retard https://youtu.be/xcM9kCZt9o8?t=4394

>>21504605
passive understanding is always better than your ability to output and yoga hadn't really read or consumed japanese media for years when he spoke with nuke, let alone classical literature.

>>21504561
Fortunately I don't think it's broken. The swelling has been gradually reducing. I did panic at first though when I discovered the head was near double normal size while flaccid.

i liked this drunk defense the most

the funny thing is ppl are most honest when they are drunk lol

>>21504617
no thats just pretending to know japanese when u dont and just rationalizing it

its decoding at best and u havent actually acquired anything

Yoga is honestly pretty fucking shit at japanese compared to his claims and generally seems supremely dumb

in that debate with steve matt managed to impress me, he sounded much better than in that jikosyoukai video

>>21504627
wrong matt and yoga both read and listened enough that it'd be impossible for them to have to decode. you push 10k hours of eng subbed anime and they literally spent 4-5 years listening to japanese 8+ hours a day so they have definitely acquired it.

>>21504617
>let alone classical literature.
what does reading classical literature have to do with speaking without sounding like a retard and not having a 20:1 まあ ratio per word

>>21504561
I was kinda sad when this guy with the best ever excuse for a sick day, got fired. He walked out into the yard head bowed and just stood there, a delivery truck couldn't get past him and honked their horn but he just stood there looking at the ground.

He didn't get fired for calling in sick with a broken dick it was for other stuff later.

>>21504642
what does having acquired classical japanese have to do with outputting? good question. it doesn't, so bringing up his shitty output to cast doubt on his ability to consume native material is retarded.

>>21504649
>what does having acquired classical japanese have to do with outputting
a lot, actually

>>21504639
if its not comprehensible u dont acquire it ; )

>>21504680
How do you get comprehensible input at begginer level?

>>21504689
stop being new

>>21504689
Either go thru something like vncore so you have a base, or just pull thru looking up every word for a couple months if you're an ankiphobe

>>21504689
10000 hours of eng subbed anime : )

and sprinkle some of this in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAcUlUGVnM#t=67

>>21504715
I've watched way more English subbed anime than that and don't know anything more than a few common phrases but I was never actively trying to listen to the words and understand what they were saying.

>>21504689
10000 hours passive listening and unsubbed anime

>>21504729
tis unfortunate but ur fucked likely forever

>>21504742
passivity is the way of the cuck

dont be a cuck lest u end up livin in the boku shed lol

cuck: 10000 hours eng subbed anime, doesn't learn any japanese
Chad: 10000 hours passive listening basically learning japanese effortlessly for free while doing rtk

>>21502647
I'll be honest here, I feel pretty fucking sad since I started playing/watching/reading everything in japanese (JRPGs, anime, novels, VNs, other games). Taking DAYS to only read the beginning is killing me inside.

I miss the days where I could play shit in english, but right now I feel ashamed of myself everytime I break my rule of playing everything in japanese. It feels like I'm looking at myself with disgust.

Reminder that reading a light novel is the English equivalent of reading Tumblr fanfiction. Read you some real books.

the more eng subbed anime u watched the shorter that phase of being utterly fucked trying to read is

don't read books read manga, hentai, eroge etc

>>21504756
Why would I be fucked at all let alone forever? You can't expect to learn much of anything if you are making no attempt to match any of the subs with the voice or even hear the words being spoken.

>>21504791
I mean, I'm noticing how I'm able to understand shit ton of expressions (esp. expressions but also some words), Shit that I didn't know I knew like　ぜんげんてっかい or しょがない.

>>21504813
what i mean is i cant imagine being a 20 something and not knowing any japanese

ur prolly just actually doomed to be nukemarine so my personal suggestion is accept u missed ur window and do other things with ur life

nothing good gets made in japan anymore anyway

>>21504827
First off, nuke is cool and is gonna make it stop the hate.
Second, stop being such a rose tinted nostalgia loving boomer

>>21504827
I don't even know who that is. But from what I can see here you have no actual reason at all why I would be fucked?

>>21504823
< generic positive reinforcement and encouragement reply goes here >

>>21504844
i dont hate nuke chan but he is what he is and its important to use him as an example of what can happen if u spend extensive time not doing the right things

also nostalgia feels so good tho i dont wanna stop

思い出に浸るing every day is so much win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHNBT14jkRA#t=9

Is there no way to automatically fill in the english translation when exporting stuff from voracious to anki? Kinda loses the fucking point if I have to manually type in the english translation

https://streamable.com/6d5i8

>>21503029
i+1 format, that's it.

just complete ur memory shrine designed to cripple u forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQuMbzt-GMw

>>21504910
the thumbnail made me lol

>>21504910
is he going to reset his starting time

>>21504910
lmfao

https://streamable.com/arx5l

theres just so much to lol at with that dude hes really a pretty impressive megaclown i gotta say its actually just unreal like i thought calvin was the pinnacle of language community aids but no

>>21504899
Seems not looking at his github, so strange that this isn't a feature. The dictionary is right there, why wouldn't you be able to auto export the english like with yomichan

ｗｈｙ is every1 who wants to learn japanese a fUCking weIRdo

He ain't no bitch when it comes to language learning

oops my last streamable link came out wrong this is what i wanted

https://streamable.com/iihbv

>>21504937
calvin is aids in an innocent beginner whose heart isn't really in it and doesn't know what he's doing kinda way. this dude is aids because he's just pure aids

>>21504951
ill bet u anything that dudes a sex tourist somethin isnt quite right with him

>tfw clipboard inserter just stop working on chrome
why you gotta be so ruuuuuuude

>>21504969
doesn't work for chrome on me either but thankfully firefox is a better browser.

>>21503084
N1 is hardly a form of mastery or a large knowledge of slang. N1 is basically "I know enough to work through any conversation that's not technical" and that's assuming you're not autistic and never actually practiced speaking, which seemingly happens to a lot of weebs.

Now I don't have to use fucking animelon or voracious or anything. Based pot player even lets you set custom hotkeys so I can toggle the English subs independently of the Japanese ones.

On a more academic note, is there an optimal amount of new words to be learning a day? I've been sticking to ~20 (probably more from passive exposure but I have no way to count those) since that's what Anki seems to suggest, but I was wondering if anyone has studies or anecdotes suggesting something else.

On a more academic note, is there an optimal amount of new words to be learning a day? I've been sticking to ~20 (probably more from passive exposure but I have no way to count those) since that's what Anki seems to suggest, but I was wondering if anyone has studies or anecdotes suggesting something else.

Are there better J-E dictionaries for yomichan than JMdict? I just tried to use Kenkyusha, but it's a mess. Looking up "元気" gives me a book worth of sample sentences...

>>21505082
Like with everything depends on how much time you got. Optimum is the maximum you can do while still allocating a healthy majority of your time to input.

>>21505082
I do 24 per day because any more results in a review backlog that makes me want to kms. If you don't hate doing reviews you can up it.

I don't know about you but I'm doing anime cards and I love reviews. Why aren't you doing anime cards?

>>21505168
I don't like anime.

>>21505180
What do you like?

>>21504792
>English equivalent of reading Tumblr fanfiction
Thank god, I haven't read any yet.

>>21505168
if I need to spend more than a single second to add a card to anki it's not worth it

>>21505181
little boys

>>21505168
someone please explain how animecards make reviewing fun. i pointed out that it's just a fucking picture with optional audio but no one seriously explained how a picture makes reviewing fun. will i just never get it?

>>21505197
The audio isn't optional. They are an integral part of the cart.

>>21505202
what i mean is that you said you only listen to the audio if you fail the card.

>>21505191
>taking anything on djt at face value

LNs are not high art, but they aren't nearly as bad as this anon makes out. If you are learning japanese to read literature you're learning the wrong language.

https://video.fluentcards.com/

reminder that this exists

>>21505205
When you see a new card and when you fail the card. For learning and relearning. That means you will listen to every audio at least once, it's critical for the initial priming as well as effective relearning.
Why don't you get that into your head? The audio is not optional.

What also isn't optional:
- The entire context in text on the card
- Being familiar with the context
- Understanding the context

I have linked the video 100 times now. Stop thinking you can leave everything out and still expect it to work for you. These cards are optimal as they are:
https://streamable.com/jyhp3

>>21505217
ok, the audio is not optional. that is not what i meant. what i meant is that you listen to the audio once when it's new and from then on only when you fail it. the majority of cards you do/review in anki are ones you will remember and pass. for those cards, having a mere picture does not seem more "fun" than just a vocab card.

perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that failures are less painful because you can enjoy an audio clip?

>>21505231
So it's literally just the core deck format with a picture added in?

>>21505234
>>perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that failures are less painful because you can enjoy an audio clip?
oh and this is tentative btw because listening to the audio clip has to be more enjoyable than the fact it's forcing you to spend more time in anki listening to something you've heard before.

>>21505241
d--delete this!!!!!!

>>21505234
1. This card format will lead to a higher amount of passed cards. Passed cards don't make Anki frustrating as they take a very short time. People who feel frustrated in Anki don't do so because they pass all their cards.
2. This card format will lead to a FAR lesser number of total lapses. Considering Anki's ease mechanics you will over a long period of time end up with less reviews than with any card format. This card format is suited for long term reviewing and will not be a burden even when you start getting over 20k cards.
3. Yes, it makes failed cards a lot more fun because you get to relive the anime moment you experienced before and it'll make you relearn the word very effectively. See 2.
No other card format has an as effective way to reteaching you failed cards as the anime card format.

>>21505259
>over 20k cards
Nigga if you need over 20k cards you have failed to learn Japanese, and also, holy SHIT the amount of time invested to make 20k anime cards

Laughing my FUCKING ass off

>>21505241
kek. This is literal perfection.

>>21505266
>Nigga if you need over 20k cards you have failed to learn Japanese
this was genuinely the dumbest comment ever, congratulations.
he knows more japanese than you retard, and he's only been studying for 2 years. there's virtually an unlimited amount of words to learn in this language and he chooses to keep learning them systematically.

>>21505259
>People who feel frustrated in Anki don't do so because they pass all their cards.
that's not true. anki takes me 5 minutes a day with 80-90% retention. the failures don't frustrate me. anki frustrates me. i'd rather not be using it.

>if you put any effort into learning this language holy SHIT you're stupid somehow!!! even though your 語彙力 is like 4x that of mine! i know it makes no sense i just call people stupid when they know more than me!

like how retarded do you have to be to tell yourself this.

>>21505308
80% retention is not high. even 90 means you're getting 1 card wrong every 10 cards.
and you're using it in a way thats boring and not engaging, that's his point

>>21505322
>80% retention is not high. even 90 means you're getting 1 card wrong every 10 cards.
1 failure in every 10 cards is fine. that doesn't feel bad. what feels bad is using anki period.
>thats boring and not engaging
listening to audio i've heard before in anki is not engaging. that just feels like more work. i would rather just listen to whatever i want to listen to which is typically going to be something novel. that's my point.

>>21505241
>>21505274
you guys should make a club called retards anonymous

>>21505332
>is not engaging. that just feels like more work.
or rather i should say that is more engaging in a way, but not in a good way.

>>21505311
>>21505322
>>21505335
If you aren't QM, you should kys. If you are QM and are samefagging this hard, same applies.

>>21505342
the dick sucking from his discord friends is so obnoxious.

>>21505332
>what feels bad is using anki period
cause you're doing it wrong. all anki does is show you shit. you can control what it shows you. if you hate being shown shit, period, no matter what it is, then perhaps you're autistic.

yuri yuri pretty good for people who suck at nihongo

>>21505296
Active vocabularies are around 10k, and passive ones are around 30-40k for the average adult. If your vocabulary has crossed that 10k mark you really are at the point where you don't need cards for things, because new stuff will be rare and you'll just learn via exposure alone.
Wasting your life making 20k+ anime cards is a massive waste of time.
>>21505311
Ah yes all those redditors who put "effort" into learning Japanese are all very fluent too
>>21505322
80-90% retention is like, exactly what you would want. Obviously higher is better, but this is about right.

>>21505345
>you can control what it shows you. if you hate being shown shit, period,
yea, of course? there are very few 5-15 seconds clips i want to listen to. now if anki showed me 30 minute anime episodes i could get on board, but that wouldn't very sensible.

>>21505342
>>21505344
you know what's more obnoxious? you idiots coming on here with completely meritless arguments sucking each other's dicks for your meaninglessness shitposts.

If I'm trying to say that it ended up becoming something and nothing else is this the right way to format it?
>この状態にしかなくなってしまったのです。

quiz is it absolutely necessary for the picture to be on the front of the card?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_7z4KdJi0
Not even a minute in and pitch accent is important

>>21505368
only thing on the front is the word

>>21505353
>If your vocabulary has crossed that 10k mark you really are at the point where you don't need cards for things, because new stuff will be rare and you'll just learn via exposure alone.
this is not necessarily true at all. depending on what kind of media someone inputs, they might still encounter a significant amount of new words (5 to 10 every 500 words or so). someone like that could potentially keep learning from exposure, but it's understandable they'd want to continue doing so systematically if its still reaping benefits. my vocab is at least 12k now but i still encounter new things frequently enough for anki to be worth it for perhaps another year or so, and the stuff i watch isn't nearly as jargon-y as the shit QM does.

>>21505368
he doesn't put the pics on front, i do. do whichever works for you but personally i prefer mine on the front.

>>21505353
>yes all those redditors who put "effort" into learning Japanese are all very fluent too
their "effort" is in the form of shitty textbooks and RTK. how is that even comparable?

saitama: 暇だから
english translation: [Because] I was bored


I heard it guys I heard Japanese and understood it!

Can someone that has access to Matt's patreon discord link his DoJG deck?

>>21504805
Nice try, unfortunately manga isn't reading.

>>21505406
Just because you don't take your adderall and only look at the pictures while reading kiddie manga doesn't mean everyone else does

>>21505405
he posts that deck for free because he says it's derivative of DJT's dojg deck. in fact he tweeted it within the past few months.

>>21504781
if you're still that much a beginner that 5 minutes of an anime takes you an hour, then such a rule is not useful and actually detrimental. comprehensible input is key, the more you can comprehend, the more you become able to input. forcing yourself to consume lots of input you can't comprehend is foolish. dedicate 2 hours or so to working through japanese input and then spend the rest of your time in english if you want. rules like the one you're attempting to follow only make sense once you know the equivalent of 2,000 sentences or more.

Anyone who says you are fine with 10k vocab is completely delusional. 10k active vocabulary is pretty much the absolute minimum that you need to be able to communicate properly. To enjoy just about anything you pick up and only rarely coming upon new stuff, so consuming equally to a native you will need at least a vocab of 30k.
So why the fuck would 20k cards be too much? You are stupid man. >>21505353

https://youtu.be/UQCLzn9Wqew?t=1387

lmao georgelads btfo

Is it smarter to have your new cards for each day be the cards you most recently mined? Right now I mine shit but by the time I get to it whatever context I had attached to it is gone. I guess the anime cards would solve that but I'm just too fuckin lazy

>>21505447
wait HOLD THE FUCK on then quiz didn't you say you rarely encounter new words in the media you consume yet you only have around 20k cards

>>21505447
once you have 10k words you can passively accumulate the rest of your vocabulary by reading. native english school students don't grind to 20k or 30k words by memorizing gigantic lists of words (unless they're cramming for the SAT or something). they accumulate their full adult vocabulary mostly by existing.

>>21505462
>Right now I mine shit but by the time I get to it whatever context I had attached to it is gone. I guess the anime cards would solve that but I'm just too fuckin lazy
you answered your own question.

>>21505456
actually thats just matt hella jealous hell never have the life george does

successful book series to teach multiple languages

japanese wife

laughs at ppl like matt all day

george is basically owning and matt is the sad wannabe

>>21505464
I don't know what I said in what context.
I got less than 20k cards. A total of about 17k but I've deleted about 1000 non anime cards from my old mining deck because I didn't really want to review them anymore.
I feel like I can enjoy just about anything mostly without lookups but I come upon new words frequently enough.
Of course it's fair to assume that my actual passive vocabulary is bigger than 17k, that's merely the amount of cards I have and I don't have a card for every word I know or can understand.

>>21505474
I'm not cramming word lists either. I am consuming Japanese and using my method to efficiently acquire a large amount of words multiple times faster and more efficiently than it would happen through pure consumption.
You simply don't know what you are talking about.

yeah but who has the better knowledge of japanese? matt has the ultimate moral victory that will stand the test of time. lmfao @ geoff suiciding on me

matt just says he does but he actually doesnt

thats why george can laugh at him all day and matt can only just sit there w. a sour look on his face

>>21505474
>native english school students don't grind to 20k or 30k words by memorizing gigantic lists of words
have you heard of 国語? they literally have reading and vocab tests, 5 hours a week. also 7 hours of courses of various topics taught entirely in japanese. also their entire 生活圏 is in japanese. so thats 12+ hours of comprehensible input a day for 15 years or more.

who of us here gets that much input?

https://streamable.com/6hm1z

ultimate moral victoly

geoff you better back the fuck off retard matt just laughs his ass off at george's dekinai ass all day

i mean dont get me wrong i do too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

but facts are facts george is owning in everything that matters and still knows more japanese than matt despite the above which is most cringe of all

it doesnt say what i can do tho

lmfao every time

>>21505499
i did not expect this hisatsuwaza....

yarareta....

https://streamable.com/dzug8

Man I finished watching LoGH weeks back but I can't stop thinking about it and all the good moments it has.

I fucking love Miller. What a great guy. What a moment.

This is the best show of all time it really is.

>>21505509
its ok i dont do fatalities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awVrU-cCKo8#t=36

>>21505498
my english classes stopped teaching me actual vocabulary once i graduated middle school.

>also their entire 生活圏 is in japanese. so thats 12+ hours of comprehensible input a day for 15 years or more.
well, yes. but nobody learns any new vocab when shooting the shit with their friends or talking with their parents or watching variety. actual sources of new words are either going to be literature or news and the average japanese person doesn't very much of that.

alexa remind me every day at 9am to never step to geoff

>>21505511
it doesn't count since it's based on a book

>>21505538
Which reminds me it might be worth reading the actual books.
The show is so good I just might.

does it get easier and easier to remember japanese names as you learn more words or are they forever random goobly gook shit?

>>21505483
>efficiently acquire a large amount of words multiple times faster and more efficiently than it would happen through pure consumption
But to what end, Quiz? You don't NEED to know most of the words you're taking in after the 10k, which was my point. You google something you don't recognize and then be done with it, as you should have enough synonyms lodged in your brain to make the permanent association. The only real exception I'd make is if the word uses kanji you don't recognize.

>>21505456
>Matt takes 25 minutes to say "Hey these guys aren't great maybe you should take their advice with a grain of salt
Sure wish he were less long winded

>>21505516
>>21505498
although i guess there's all sorts of japanese terms you go through just from learning shit in japanese - lord knows i have no idea what the terms for "antitrust law" or "impulse (physics)" or even "matrix multiplication" are in japanese because i've never taken civics, physics, or math in japanese. between the subjects of the japanese high school curricullum there's probably clean ten thousand words i've probably never bothered to learn. but then very little of the media i read requires me to know these terms, so it's irrelevant to me.

>>21505556
Yes and no. Some names use name-exclusive kanji, others use readings that literally don't exist for that kanji, while a few are just exactly the way they look.

Tofugu has a list of names by frequency that might help you out. I'm sure it can be acquired for free.

>>21505557
matt's autistic tendency to overexplain is what makes his cult like him so much because they feel more secure, thinking that it means he knows what he's talking about.

a lot of his cult are programmers funnily enough.

>>21505567
>a lot of his cult are programmers funnily enough.
a lot of japanese learners and weebs are programmers, funnily enough

>>21505557
Why do I not need to know them if I need to know them to comfortably consume any work of fiction aimed at Japanese native speakers, especially those aimed at well read adults?
Why would I throw out my entire methodology of efficiently expanding my passive vocabulary that fucking works and instead settle for googling things and just hoping I remember?
You are just speaking nonsense.

>>21505573
that's true, but less true when you look at places like reddit.

Asked my friend if his Japanese gf squeels like they do in jav and he said she screams bloody murder. His dick isn't huge by euro standards, what is going on here exactly?

>>21505580
damn quiz just BTFO SRS haters

>>21505587
Japanese people aren't taught to be ashamed of having sex so they don't learn to stay silent while they fuck

>>21505580
>Why would I throw out my entire methodology of efficiently expanding my passive vocabulary that fucking works and instead settle for googling things and just hoping I remember?
do you do this with new english words you encounter or do you know, just, remember them

>>21505587
>>21505593
i thought the classical stereotype of japanese women in bed was dead fish

>>21505587
just a different cultural expression of the biological phenomenon of female copulatory vocalizations which likely evolved to encourage men to compete to have sex with women. those vocalizations turn on men and back in the day would garner the attention of competing men in the area.

>>21505580
its ok dude when u get a bit older ull see the big picture

and no one cares about the methodology of some kid on the internet who started learning japanese 2 years ago and just watched logh

*picks up mic just to drop it*

>>21505595
You can be a dead fish while still screaming

>>21505558
>"antitrust law"
反トラスト法
anti trust law

>"impulse (physics)"
力積（りきせき）
積 is "product (mathematics)"

>"matrix multiplication"
行列の乗法
行列(ぎょうれつ) is rows+columns (行 is a horizontal row, 列 is a vertical column), so, matrix.
乗法 is multiplication, 乗（じょう） is the Chinese way to express the concept.

ez

>>21505595
they are. faking a whine/scream and pretending to orgasm by shaking your feet or some goofy shit doesn't mean you're an alive fish.

>>21505595
all u gotta do is westernize them a bit : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXNz75bdD9c#t=3

>>21505600
i mean yes, i could have looked them up in about ten seconds, but without looking them up i wouldn't know that the word for trust in japan was トラスト, 力積 doesn't even exist in some japanese dictionaries, and i didn't know the word for matrix. the point is not that these words are mysterious and unknowable (i'm sure more than half the people in this thread know 行列 despite never having multiplied a 行列 in their lives), but i simply never encountered them due to infrequency of use.

Why doesn't this mean something along the lines of
>I think there's meaning behind a first year student becoming a referee(in the anime's context "campaign manager")
Where does she say anything about being recommended?
t.89iq

>>21505612
推薦する is to recommend
You wouldn't really have "become" without "になる”

>>21505607
what I'm saying is that you can remember this stuff in the same amount of time it took you to write that post, because the words for these things are not composed in a difficult manner, so they are internalized instantly and forever. if anything 行列 is kind of a fresh look at the "matrix" concept, as far as naming goes!

>>21505592
I have a deck for both English and German words that I frequently utilize. I don't really encounter a large amount of words in the first place despite reading in the newspaper every day however. That's probably due to the languages being quite similar and there being a fair amount of overlap.
Learning Japanese is completely different. Not only do I lack the many years of interaction with it that I have with my other languages, I don't plan on taking the same amount of time to learn Japanese as I did to learn English. And from how it looks right now it seems I am in fact learning the language and expanding my vocabulary at an incredible pace completely unparalleled excluding the most noble of autists. The amount I can read and understand is continually constantly expanding every single day and that is partly thanks to my method.
I'm not saying you can't learn without Anki. I'm just saying you are handicapping yourself by not utilizing the best methods, will take many many years and will always be behind me.
You want me to put on the same shackles as you? https://streamable.com/j4rcz

>>21505619
But it says 推薦者にする, doesn't the 者 make it into a person, i.e. a recommender in that case?
But yeah になる would make a lot more sense.

>>21505587
japanese women seem to be conditioned to think the more noise they make the more pleased the guy they're fucking will be. it's very annoying however. perhaps not to japanese men? i've never heard a japanese guys perspective on this.

>>21505612
that subs just real bad u can google that line to gain context

>>21505612
you can 訓読 this 推薦者 into 推薦する者（もの）
and it means that for the same reason 勝者（しょうしゃ） means victor and not someone who has been defeated

>>21505621
i mean i'll remember them ~now~, since we've spent a few minutes talking about them. just saying they're a small sample from a large universe of words.

>>21505623
>I'm just saying you are handicapping yourself by not utilizing the best methods
i don't do flashcards because i don't like them. i would rather read and use the occasional lookup for a technical term because i find it more enjoyable on a day-to-day basis. the fact that you're willing to dedicate time to creating cards and reviewing cards is great! experts generally agree that in everything from piano to art, "active learning" is faster than "passive learning." however, i greatly enjoy passive learning, and don't very much enjoy active learning methods, so i'm going to keep doing that. you do you. be sure to send postcards.

>>21505623
Look, Quiz, we're not saying your anime cards are utterly worthless. Personally, I think they're way too much effort to make for the return, but I know different people learn differently and they are pretty amazing for someone who learns well from audio.
The thing is, you're handicapping yourself now by sticking to it. You have the foundations of the language. Unless you desperately want to retain every single word you ever see, or pass the kanken1, I really don't think it's a good use of your time to keep making them and doing SRS.
By all means, keep doing your thing. I don't disagree that it works, and you will get better if you stick to it. It's just not the most efficient thing anymore.

>>21505640
Thanks!

>>21505649
He's German, they can't do anything without wanting to do it systematically. It runs in the blood.

>>21505649
lol savage destruction telling him he has the foundations while trying to persuade him to drop the training wheels and causing him to erupt in inner conflict between his posting persona and his personal reality thats the shit i do like

i do passive learning when i read manga and play videogames etc, anime cards for anime (still capping at 30 cards a day, then whatever other anime i watch that day becomes passive learning).
before i was doing passive for everything and looking back it was very inefficient and relatively unproductive (like significantly so... talking vocab gains of like 3 words per day vs 30). i much prefer one steady, reliable incoming stream of active learning, with other streams of passive stuff on the side.

watching anime > making anime card anki reviews

>>21505663
imagining this post but explaining sex instead

>>21505670
Yes you make cards while watching anime. You confused about something? I thought everyone knew this.

i think a lot of people here are just annoyed that QM knows so much more than them and puts in more effort than they ever had the discipline or drive to. now the best you can do is try to discourage him from continuing so you can feel better about your own low effort and lack of ability. imagine that.

he's only been learning 2 years and you want him to stop putting effort in (because he's too far ahead of you?). no it's not inefficient for him to keep doing anime cards which he clearly enjoys doing. what's inefficient is crippling himself by no longer trying so he can be an eternal dekinai like guys like jamal pretending they understand all the secrets of nihongo with only a 10k vocab.

imagine lying through your teeth so hard that as somebody under the age of 30 you say that you read the newspaper (significantly enough that you could in theory new learn words from doing so) every day

>>21505693
at this point im convinced you would literally suck this dude off if you ever met him. what the fuck is your issue

like why can't you people just let others prosper without trying to bring them down or subtly discourage them? oh yeah because your jealousy takes over and starts making you say idiotic things.

>>21505693

>>21505693
people are annoyed because he's like a telemarketer who calls you every single day.

the fact that he's doing better than jamal is not an achievement because jamal is a dedicated shitposter and general retard.

>>21505702
>people are annoyed because he's like a telemarketer who calls you every single day.
but before he came you guys were posting the same retarded shit every day that didn't even help anyone or have merit? so why is it not until now that you're upset?

qm's fake anime cards turn you into a narcissistic minor eceleb with time management problems and compulsive dishonesty issues, even if they're better than vocab cards (which are obviously already fine) are they really worth the cost? I say no

ok guys its my turn to ragequit the thread

u guys are being too mean to me and so ive decided im going to leave u all alone with ur new favorite boy

this is my last post and heres the trip if ne1 else wants it to make funny posts impersonating me geoff genki#1cedupb1ade5

*picks up mic again just to drop it*

>>21505710
>but before he came you guys were posting the same retarded shit
people did that even after he came. these threads only slightly recovered because someone who made literally 1/2 of the posts in these threads - every single one of them a complete shitpost - was banned.

>so why is it not until now that you're upset?
people have been "upset" about retards in this thread for years.

idk quizmaster is fun as hell, especially with the way he habitually makes everyone's anal cavities implode for some reason. to everyone: why don't you play a quiz with qm if you think you're so good? the quiz cannot perhaps demonstrate that you're good, but it will easily demonstrate that you're bad.

>>21505715
>every single one of them a complete shitpost - was banned.
huh? who are you talking about?

>>21505693
I'm not annoyed and have no problem admitting Quizzard is better than me. Why do you think anyone criticizing him is insecure?

DJT before quizmaster: SHIT FUCK RETARD AUTISM RTK HAHAHA FUCK YOU READ MORE WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD VN'S
quizmaster: *shares actually helpful methods while being mildly assholish in the process but nowhere near as bad as others*
DJT: wow this guy is so annoying and rude to people who does he think he is

>>21505712
good riddance

>>21505722
i quit the threads for a month and later looked back and saw some archived threads where almost 50% of the posts had been deleted, so i assumed that someone had been banned.

>>21505726
the fact that he's an insufferable shit and attracts insufferable shits like you goes a long way towards nobody liking him.

>>21505694
I read at least one article pretty much every day. Obviously I do it digitally not on an actual paper newspaper, I enjoy it and it's the only real reading input I get outside of Japanese. You seem to have a couple problems yourself, everything that somebody else does better than you is a lie or what? It's such a pathetic post. Instead of accusing people of lying work on yourself.

stop phone-samefagging and get back to your coursework

>>21503999
Hi calvin how are you doing are you gonna play the new samurai spirits when it comes out?
How do you feel about your new competition >>21503524

>>21504805
>>21505414
>>21505663
That's nice and all but manga is not reading.

>>21505726
>>21505729
see, the thing is, most of the insufferable shits in this thread know they are insufferable shits. they're still complete retards who would ideally be hanged, but they don't pretend not to be. quizmaster thinks he's god's gift to this thread and attracts a following of sycophants who say the same thing. in that way he's just as shit as jamal and far ahead of all the other common retards.

>>21505729
>calling everyone who btfo me "insufferable" helps me feel better

>>21505742
no, some people are just good and they're near you. get over it

>>21505730
imagine lying not only to djt but yourself about something so pointless and trivial and nerdy. for what purpose. there is nothing to gain. nobody under 30 or so actually reads "newspaper" articles daily anymore, least of all someone with as many things to do as you.

>>21505747
>>21505748
congratulations on illustrating my point perfectly

>>21505742
>most of the insufferable shits in this thread know they are insufferable shits
yourself included?
>quizmaster thinks he's god's gift to this thread
more of a gift than you retards/dekinais

>>21505752
the point that you have a sad worldview? sure

wow so surprising that someone who bases their entire identity around learning a fucking language is a complete retard. who could have seen that coming

>>21505693
>i think a lot of people here are just annoyed that QM knows so much more than them and puts in more effort than they ever had the discipline or drive to
i don't think this makes any sense. there are probably a lot of people who have posted in these threads over the years who have been better than everyone else in the thread and i think everyone understands that people differ in skill on a given task. i think you're just posting this to get you's and it's working well.

>>21505759
he's one part decent advice to nine parts attention whoring and forty parts shitposting. he even openly declared in the past that he no longer cared about this thread and would from now on dedicate himself to shitting it up just like jamal.

>>21505760
nothing could possibly be sadder than sucking the dick of a general thread attention whore.

>>21505749
I mainly read the articles for the comment sections. The newspaper I read is https://www.welt.de/
On every article you can see conservatives and quasi alt ringers call out everything wrong with the article and wrong and it's honestly enjoyable to read.
It's not a lie. It's just a little thing I do when I have downtime standing with my phone somewhere or when waking up or brushing my teeth or whatever.
What a pointless thing to be accuse someone of lying about however.

>>21505766
>nothing could possibly be sadder than sucking the dick of a general thread attention whore.
yeah, I knew an autist who completely unironically called all acts of benevolence except for very rare exceptions, "dick sucking", on which he looked with 100% disdain. it was a sad life for him.

>>21505405
>>21505425
How exactly does this deck differ from the DJT version?

>>21505774
>acts of benevolence
jesus fucking christ

>>21505767
I'm saying it's four days a week tops, usually two or three, nowhere near enough up call it every day

>>21505765
>there are probably a lot of people who have posted in these threads over the years who have been better than everyone else in the thread
but did they
1. demonstrate that ability?
2. challenge others to demonstrate their own ability?
3. have something to offer as far as learning techniques?

>>21505778
seek help

i read at least three english articles a day because my primary non-japanese hobby is arguing with people on the internet and part of that is finding sources to beat other people over the head with

i certainly wouldn't read that many japanese articles per day every day but claiming that it's difficult to do this in your native language is retarded and i can't believe anyone is arguing about it

>>21505766
>he's one part decent advice to nine parts attention whoring and forty parts shitposting
there's no way he shitposts or attention whores even half as much as you guys. quit projecting.
>nothing could possibly be sadder than sucking the dick of a general thread attention whore.
yuh huh. getting mad at people for being better than you at something is infinitely sadder than giving props to people for being good at something.

>>21505777
that guy's preferred mode of interaction with people was to aggressively verbally attack them, which he considered "being real" and "not sucking someone's dick". so he had 0 friends and 0 social stature and was poor in a first world country. ftw

is the qm dicksucker just 1 guy? or are there multiple?

>>21505693
Still waiting on that 自己紹介 video, Quiz-kun.

>>21505793
i'm... not quizmaster retard lol.

>>21505787
>there's no way he shitposts or attention whores even half as much as you guys. quit projecting.
there's far more than two people in this thread other than him, so assuming that everybody shitposts and attention whores at the same rate, that's expected. there's 50+ people in this thread. if every single one of them shitposted and attention whored as much as he did there wouldn't be any thread left.

>than giving props to people for being good at something.
every single one of your posts was primarily directed at shitting at the people on this thread. giving him props was, at best, incidental. in fact, multiple people - even those who disagreed with him - gave him props for his method earlier in this thread and ~nobody cared~. if you'd actually just made a post doing that everyone would have moved on from it ages ago.

>>21505797
a likely story

>>21505784
he said news paper which is very different from random articles you find on google
btw if you can't read the news in Japanese you don't have a place talking about the learning process here

>>21505791
It's safe to assume there are a few, but you know the one calling everyone a "dekinai" is one dude.

>>21505801
stop taking qm's bait lol you have better shit to do, like dig up the worst parts of reddit or vndb

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>>21505808
>he said news paper which is very different from random articles you find on google
a lot of it comes from internet news magazines like the atlantic. sometimes it's articles that people link for the purpose of some argument or another. the subject matter and content is largely the same.

>btw if you can't read the news in Japanese
i can read my native language at least five times faster than i can read japanese. the only news i would read in japanese is news that is specifically relevant to japan and that i care about, which is limited to the occasional anime controversy.

>>21505797
Let's give you the benefit of the doubt.

>he's only been learning 2 years
He makes fun of and insults people who have only been learning for a few months. He also makes fun of and insults people like BritvsJapan based on where they were at the two year mark and claims he's better than them, yet curiously he always pussies out when challenged to provide any showcasing of his own ability.

He has a YouTube account. He owns a mic. If he doesn't want to post on YouTube, there's Vocaroo and other platforms. Yet he refuses to give any demonstration of his abilities. Why?

>>21505780
>2. challenge others to demonstrate their own ability?
i think you've nailed the problem people have with quiz. it's obnoxious. notice that nobody respects matt just because he's good, because he's an asshole. likewise with quiz. if it were a friendly "hey guys wanna play this quiz" then people wouldn't care.

>>21505824
>yet curiously he always pussies out when challenged to provide any showcasing of his own ability.
this is the one thing he doesn't do. he'll do vocab heads-to-heads with anyone who asks. he's an annoying shit but credit where credit is due.

i never once understood the fetish people had for reading shit out loud in these threads. as a test of japanese knowledge it's one of the complete fucking worst. i could sing in japanese when i was eleven and didn't know a fucking word because i could memorize the romaji. almost ANY other test of language knowledge was better.

>>21505824
>He makes fun of and insults people who have only been learning for a few months. He also makes fun of and insults people like BritvsJapan based on where they were at the two year mark
oh no, how dare he. and on 4chan of all places...

if you can't have a conversation in Japanese, speaking, then you don't know Japanese, no matter how many Scrabble words you know how to read or how many anime you've watched with subs

>>21505837
Haha I only do that when somebody talks shit to me. You want a post like that? Whoops already done:
>>21500738

>>21505851
>You want a post like that?
well no, because it can't recant your obnoxious behavior.

>>21505821
as a complete aside to the argument, i compared reading this japanese ingredients list with an english wrapper i had in front of me. it took me around thirty seconds to read the full list of japanese ingredients and less than five seconds to finish reading the english one. maybe that's insanely slow for all the genuine nihongo masters in this thread but right now for me if my primary goal is to get new information, news in my native language >>>> anything else

>>21505774
>I knew an autist who completely unironically called all acts of benevolence except for very rare exceptions, "dick sucking", on which he looked with 100% disdain.

Regardless of your particular point, this is pretty representative of the inherent contrarianism on 4chan if someone identifies themselves.

It's not a universal case, but no matter how correct/incorrect/helpful/unhelpful you are, identifying yourself makes you a tall poppy with a history, so not only everyone will put in extra time/effort to make an example of you, but you'll also have a precedent and verifiable examples of less-than-stellar posts.

I think as a rule of thumb, trolls will not identify themselves unless they are intentionally trying to piss off others by tripfagging. So those who do identifies usually have (relatively) well-meaning intentions, even if it turns out to not result in quality posting.

not confused, just saying: if you watch anime without doing cards, it's even more fun

ロツク

the fuck this supposed to mean?

>>21505689

not confused, just saying: if you watch anime without doing cards, it's even more fun

what are your other hobbies aside from nihongo?

I like cooking, biking and watching MMA and competitive CSGO.

>>21505858
I 100% adapt to my environment
I don't dance out of line
when somebody flings shit at me I fling shit back
I don't want to put all responsibility off my shoulders because it does always take two
but if you know about my past with DJT you'd know that for a long time I actually tried to get more moderation in here and raise posting standard
all my efforts were of course spit on by the super ironic shitposters like jamal and supporters
and then I've stopped caring, you guys are no good no matter how much you pretend you are now that I've decided to play my own game with the thread

>>21505886
ロック

Never mind, the game has a shitty font that makes it hard to differentiate the small kanas.

but wtf quizzie i never said i was good i just like posting here

ask me how it feels to be the ichiban of this sure.

>>21505893
>I've decided to play my own game with the thread
IE, you're a dedicated shitposter, as you've admitted countless times in the past. Glad you're always ready to keep everyone up to date on what you're doing at all time.s

>>21505891
browsing reddit and ajatt/mia videos. if i left my house i'd probably go to the gym and take daily walks but none of it is interesting anyway. it would ultimately be to make me more appealing to women

>>21505693
u idiot he never posting himself read in realtime. nobody knows how good he is

linux animecard bros, what are you using for quick audio recording and pasting?

>>21505930
"reading in realtime" is an absolute retard test that i'm certain that only jamal could have possibly come up with because it's infinitely gameable and tests nothing.

>>21505935
wtf are you doing in this thread if you know nothing lmao check your privilege next time before spewing nonsense my tomogaki

>>21505619
>>21505640
ゲイのクラブを推薦してください。

>>21505934
also want to know. I think it's possible to write an addon for mpv for automatic flashcard creation based on subtitle timings.

>>21505967
someone already did that

>>21503018
can some one red pill me on MASSIVE ANIME CARDS? Do you basically watch anime and mine yourself by ear. Or do you use some tool chain?