/jp/ - Otaku Culture

日本語はむずかしい

>>21490587
いいえ、とても簡単です。

oh come the fuck on does it matter. you could just continue the numbering in the next thread.

but good news: textractor released an update which allows you to save hooks/autohook. also it now comes in x64. i wonder what games require that.

>>21490551
Opinions?

>>21490647
What's the point of all that shit if you could just learn the word with an anime card and move on

できるなればことから容易い
けど極めて難しい開始時の習う

>>21490652
Quizboy-style anime cards don't teach people to tell kanji apart the way radical-based mnemonics do.

>>21490691
>needing radical-based mnemonics

>>21490691
that's what your eyes are for

>>21490699
I doubt most people here actually have perfect memory. If they did, they'd never use anki, nor would they need to re-read anything.

>>21490731
銀河英雄伝説

>>21490737
k thnx

every day mai knee ichy

>>21490749
I'm actually one of the more civilized posters on this thread

Alright I spent last night with Satori as my maid and it was pretty damn good. I got to admit my mental image of her is more kind of like a brat with a nasal voice kind of like nanachi from made in abyss that is really cheeky and a know it all but in this she was a super 礼儀正しい ojou san which I suppose I can enjoy in it's own way even if I don't really feel like it's Satori. Anyway the voice was really good and I've honestly felt like I was talked which really makes me go wild lol it was a cute & mindless plot like is common for these but it was really fun and I recommend it to everyone thanks for reading.

>character says 八千以上だ

>>21490768
subscribed

>>21490735
I don't do either

Listening to this tonight!

>>21490867
>studies computer science in uni
>runs windows 10
this disappoints me

>>21490867

>>21490766
Can you believe you can still go back in the stream and get the loli part lol he is definitely getting banned
he even gets a big smirk and actually lets it stay on screen for a few seconds haha what the fuck

So I've made it to the 50% mark on the core 2k 6k optimized deck for Anki. Is there much value in continuing to go past this point I'm planning to just keep up with the reviews until all are mature then switch to reading in my daily routine in place of Anki now that I actually know fair amount of vocab.

crazy how his english ability falls when streaming to people who he wants to believe hes spent the last 8 years immersing 24/7 to a near native level in japanese
its almost as if

>>21490982
as if what?

おはようおにいちゃん

>>21490978
ふらいんぐうぃっちは

いいアニメだとおもう

>>21491010
hes putting it on

>>21491016
putting on what? faking bad english?

>>21491011
津軽弁の台詞も多いけど、それも勉強してみたいの？
There are many words of Tsugaru-ben,
would you like to study it too?

>>21490607
治すのは人形

さてはて

does anybody else feel like they wasted time with heisig?
i finished it in 4 months doing 25 daily and i cant feel the benefit or maybe i just dont know how to reap the benefit?

>>21490882
Matt only considered computer science. He currently studies japanese. I think he even mentioned in the steve video that he goes for it, because it is a degree with no effort or something like this.

https://streamable.com/lpl0o

>>21491210
context?

>>21491207
also i want to add the only thing i feel good about is that kanji dont look like complete gibberish, but surely if i saw them enough in sentences i would have memorized them (and i have) anyway.
is heisig a hack did a fall for the meme?

lol

https://streamable.com/thgn4

>>21491258
omfg this has to be ironic?
right?
.... right?

>>21491277
look at the deleted thread

reminder that knowledge is free and there's nothing wrong with pirating learning materials, in fact it's more ethical to pirate learning materials than entertainment materials

>>21491088
>ばっけ

おぼえた

どこでつうじるかはしらない

nah he is just legitimately autistic without a shred of self awareness lol

>>21491258
wew what a hypocrite

Why hasn't Matt ever committed this advice about learning pitch accent to a video before?

>>21491258
LMAO

this is the guy who paywalls and distributes copyrighted content, e.g. proprietary fonts and NHK accent dictionary audio, and also operates a paywalled "resources page" full of links to copyrighted material like LNs and audiobooks as well.

偽善にもほどがあるぞ。

>>21491225
>is heisig a hack did a fall for the meme?
yeah i've been warning you about this all along but you wouldn't listen

>>21491207
>>21491225
>he didn't learn kanji by learning to write words which use them
oh no no no no

>>21491258
he's a fucking clown

>>21490882
There are worse things
I once had an internship at a place for design (I actually aim more to go into website-coding but that company was specialized more in marketing than in websites)
They used macs and believed they were the best for designing, my ass
And they had these retarded mouses with a tiny ball as scroll wheel
Since then I don't expect much from people anymore.

>>21491258
>https://streamable.com/thgn4
lol what the
what content was he talking about specifically btw

>>21491628
the topic was sites that made Patreon content freely available

>>21491646
aka he's only concerned when it's about himself?

>>21491653
yes
what I am more amazed about is how stupid he thinks his cultists are

>>21491653
Basically. He's said before that he draws the line at "people in the same business as him" (paraphrased) when it comes to piracy.

This is presumably why Dogen's Patreon videos aren't listed in MIA's resources page alongside the whole host of other copyrighted materials he sanctions (and has even produced himself, like scans of accent dictionaries) there.

In other words, yeah, he's only against piracy when he stands to lose from it, and in all other cases he either doesn't give a shit or actively facilitates piracy with the intent of profiting from it via Patreon money.

Is there a more frustrating, senseless, retarded aspect of Japanese grammar than という and all its accompanying forms (such as そういう, etc)?

>ネタバレ ー ううん

So in response to last night's yogacast and the topic of outputting:
I outputted a lot on discord and over hellotalk etc before finding MIA, and struggled to break the habit of replying to netfriends on LINE and such after starting. A couple months after starting MIA I actually met Japanese people where I live for the first time in my life and couldn't resist the urge to output and make a connection with these people. I beat myself up for it though and felt like I was breaking my ideals by outputting all the time. After they left back for Japan (after 2 months or so) it was about the time I had really bad anxiety and was afraid of death and started developing tinitus due to fluid buildup behind eardrum and all that (I'm mostly better now) and I kind of had a silent period of a couple months. Then I found myself procrastinating on discord all the time so I decided to replace most of my servers with Japanese servers, and so I started 聞き専ing quite a lot and just outputting via text every once in a while.

I've mostly outgrown all of my bad habits I used to have from early output and rarely make mistakes anymore (it does happen every once in a while) and I think it's because I have never prioritized output, and my input will always outnumber my output by a large factor. I also am really self conscious and afraid of making mistakes which leads to me speaking with simple stuff I know is correct. I think that you have to keep in mind the best way to impress people isn't to pull out big words and be fancy but to be consistent with using natural language.

I recently went on my second date with a Japanese girl and I spent 7 hours or so with her and I think it went pretty well. I think something that really makes a difference is that before trying to force output in something you don't know how to express in Japanese is to switch to English.
I wouldn't have had the opportunity to go on these dates and meet these people if I didn't output, and while outputting has no advantage in a language learning sense (of comprehension etc), I wouldn't throw away life experiences at the expense of making a couple bad habits (which will probably fix themselves if you get a ton of input anyway). Like don't go out of your way to output needlessly but if you go about it the right way and care about sounding good, you can probably still come out fluent on the other end. I'm not promoting early outputting and I still don't go out of my way to do it now

I'm not gonna read all that shit

>>21491692
he could have written this in one sentence

>>21491720
is there something about MIA that causes these people to write long ass posts and make 20+ minute videos?

>>21491752
Autism

>>21491692
aw this was a worthwhile read
i don't really care for his channel but its nice to see him being real

>>21491681
whats so frustrating about it

>>21491766
it dont be like it do in english

>>21491764
Pretty sure that's not Matt. Wouldn't make any sense for him to be talking about "finding MIA".

>>21491825
didnt think it was matt

thinking of getting a switch for japanese games
anyone here have one?

>>21491839
Yeah.
What do you want to know?

>>21491853
is it more worth it to you vs a 3ds xl for japanese gaming? the expensiveness of the games and console and whatnot
also what are your favorite games on it

Where do you get high quality raw manga?
I can't make out the kanji on most.

I don't have a Switch but CFW and pirating on it seem in the rather advanced stages so you can get games for free. It may depend on whether or not you get a new or old console.
I myself got a CFW 2DS XL and that shit is pretty amazing for Japanese games. 3DS is region locked so you'd need to hack it anyway to play Japanese games.
As Freeshop is shut down a good place to get games is GazelleGames, if you can't find something there you go for public sites. Should be able to find most things.

>>21491895
RAW manga scans are pretty bad most of the time, English release groups are full of autists that go over and clean up the entire page and put in high resolution fonts.
Well either way even if they scans are shit it's readable 99% of the time, if you can't chances are you just still suck ass. Do some anime cards instead.

>>21491895
It really depends on the scan, most of them aren't that good but you can read the kanji with practice.
manga-zip.net has sometimes really good scans, but some of them are locked behind premium or just as bad. It really depends. I just got used to it.

>>21491908
Where can I buy these "anime cards".

>>21491914

>>21491919
Well I still don't got my Patreon set up until then it's free. It's basically a method to efficiently create audio flashcards from Anime (this is very helpful and worth doing) the cards basically look like this https://streamable.com/jyhp3 if you need more info just say so

>>21491926
yeah that's what I said
then you gotta live with what you got
you can also try name in japanese + zip in google, maybe you'll find something else but they always use shitty hosters

Minor frustrations:
ぜんぶ
ぜんたい
ぜんいん
ぜんしゃ
Those are all good.
But ぜんにん doesn't mean 'all people', instead it is a 'good person' - thank you Japanese, very cool.

Have there been new audible.jp rips since the first one a year or so ago?
I want more LN audiobooks.

>>21491992
ぜんにんは

まえのひと
　前任 　のいみもおおいよ

>>21491992
https://streamable.com/z90rq

>>21492126
whats the issue with just regular sentence cards with audio?
really makes u think

>>21491992
this is why kanji are important
the ぜん in 善人 is a completely different kanji than the other ones

>>21492224
you mean sentence on the front?
do you think I'm a pull string talking doll or something
I'm not going to repeat the thing I've already explained 1000 times to you just cuz ur too dumb to get it
search the archives or something lol

>>21492259
K

>>21492259
im good thanks though

>>21491895
post pic with what you mean with "low quality"

just tell your parents to not come crying to me when their ancestral lines ends because you spent your life not learning Japanese with dumbass methods lol

Where do I find the monolingual dictionary to add to nazeka? I tried the Shinmeikai I used for Yomichan and the one for Qolibri and neither of them work

unless your method is downright ridiculous and is actively working against you are gonna make it regardless
just put in the work, japanese is honest, study hard nd ul make it
but feel free to work against that with the technical shit lol

>>21492358
nazeka doesn't use yomichan dictionaries
use the archive

>>21492274
basically he hates cards with the sentence on the front because he thinks they make reviewing too easy and are a crutch
personally ive seen absolutely no difference in results either way and think hes unnecessarily anal about his anti-sentence card stance

>>21492428
that's not my only arguments but you can't really expect a close minded cultist cuck to even have the will to comprehend opposing positions lol

if you want sentences then just fucking read dammit

>>21492440
u r OBSESSED wit matt i dont even follow e celebs because id rather grind sentences.
is this included in the animecards method? obsess over some random alien hypocrite fag?

bro if u want words just read bro
bro if u want japanese just read bro
why do flashcards bro just read bro
fuckin idiot

seething and obsessed lmao

hey did you guys know that you can download youtube streams while they're being streamed as long as they haven't ended yet
https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink/releases/tag/1.1.1
./streamlink --hls-live-restart -o some_livestream_some_minor_eceleb_is_running.mp4 "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXXXXXX" best

>>21492545
Why all the "bro" who are you even mimicking? lost all composure not even making sense!
or do you actually talk like that
yeeeessh

>>21492554
yeah ignore that embed part if you see it

>>21492554
yes ofc i knew that
its just a stream of data, if my computer can display it on the fly then it can also save it on the fly.
baka

>>21492563
nah dude i meant you can like totally do it yourself super easily not just in theory
ive been saving every matt stream so i can use them as blackmail material a few years from now

>>21492570
ok now thats pretty epic

>>21491258
* Slaps K-On OST onto his videos that he probably got from nipponsei*

>>21491258
>went to bed before the good shit
fuck. well i downloaded the whole stream except the first few minutes so that's good.

>>21492563
anon's command works retroactively from the start of the stream, at least for youtube streams

>>21492570
can you post a streamable clip of matt smirking at the loli cunny on his discord from the latest stream?

Jim Breen spent 30 years of his life to create JMDict so that it could be used to play Japanese incest porn games by people who don't speak Japanese

>>21492440
i'm.... not a matt fan
at all lol

what's the stream even about?

apparently only people who love matt do sentence cards... this is news to me

lolって

なんて

はつおんするのん？

yeah only people in a cult would do some pants on head retarded shit peddled by hypocritical homo manchildren who want to "change the learning game" in the form of continually and never ceasingly shitting out "new" "original" methods for the sole purpose of building a following of low IQ pay slaves what did you think

I am a sentence.

>>21491258
lmao

wtf is wrong with the japs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIiIKF1wuCY

>>21492554
oh this is useful. i use youtube-dl which never captures the full stream. it only captures from when i first enter the URL.

>>21492674
>shitting out "new" "original" methods
to be fair that's what your sharex cards are

>>21492673
“El oh el” if in all caps, but just sounded out if not.

>>21492704
yea sure lol

>>21492673
ロル

>>21492688
been askin this for 30 years lol

>>21492673
どんな発音になるかは自分で決められることです

Jamal I have no idea why you think you can lol at my posts in all seriousness hahahah

>>21492779
sounds like it's getting to you xD

is quiztard gonna be the next 1 to suicide into one of my posts or is he gonna make a lil driveby comment then back down stay tuned

>>21491831
Who did you think it was then? Who's channel don't you care for?

>>21492811
that yoga guy?

>>21492722
>>21492726
>>21492767
クィーンふうにいうとどれ

>>21492843
クィーンが言ったことないかも (・_・ヾ

I won't stomp you out like I don't stomp out the spiders in my home cuz I think you serve a purpose that's all

>>21492820
Yoga wouldn't talk about "finding MIA" either since he created it along with Matt. He also has a Japanese wife apparently so he wouldn't be talking about meeting Japanese people for the first time AFTER starting doing MIA and recently going on dates with them.

>>21492852
クィーンズイングリッシュだよ

フレディかんけいない

>>21492862
知ってる
どっちでもそうだけど

>>21492854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIp6uabLcj8#t=26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_dSgtNK6pc

Introducing manga cards.
The mix of vocab cards and anime cards no one asked for, but I make cause they look neat.

>>21492898
refer to this:
>>21492725
this is groundbreaking

>>21492898
whats the point.... theres no audio....

>>21492898
cutting out single manga panels is possibly the worst idea ive ever seen why cant u guys just fuckin let the nihongo *snorts* go and believe that itll all come back to u in due time if it was meant to be

just like u only need faith the size of a mustard seed in jesus to be able to go to heaven u just need a tiny bit of faith to just let go and let the nihongo come back to u someday naturally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmLF3I1CVz8#t=30

>>21492922
are u a schizo because ur ramblings sometimes sound like ur a schizo

prolly but show me a great thinker who wasnt a nut

>>21492928
me

>>21492933
oh dang nice

>>21492938
wow thats nice u just accepted it instead of shitting on me. very genki of u geoff, i appreciate it

>>21492898
yea you need audio otherwise it's just a screenshot on a card the audio is what defines anime cards
here let me show you manga cards
https://streamable.com/nbgee

>>21492902
>>21492912
>>21492922
Actual usefulness doesn't matter, I just have to get a tripcode, and act like an sperg while shilling them and they'll catch on, you'll see.

daijoubu-cards are still best tbqh

jamals ramblings are annoying he just wants everyone to suck at japanese like he does

>>21492371
You would think it was impossible to learn Japanese unless you use some exact configuration of Anki card and tickle your perineum whilst studying. Yet plenty of people will have learned Japanese without ever touching Anki or SRS before it was a major thing.

The minutia of method is far less important than persistence and commitment.

manga cards seem like a fine idea. just have anime cards as well so you can get audio practice too.
personally in both cases i'd have the image on the front though.

>>21492963
then why not just blow me out and make it a learning experience for everyone

go ahead

>>21492979
>Yet plenty of people will have learned Japanese without ever touching Anki or SRS before it was a major thing.
yeah and they took fucking forever to get good
the beauty of SRS is it's efficiency compared to other methods. of course, you don't get to taste that efficiency if you spend all your time arguing about study methods instead of actually doing it, so that's where i agree with you

english on the front, manga on the back

>>21492996
wtf does "blow me out" mean
if you mean blow you out of DJT with a super-powered 扇風機 then i'd be glad to

>>21492998
heres the dirty little secret

ur vocabulary "size" has nothing to do with getting "good" at japanese

actually everyone takes about the same amount of time if they are subject to the right stuff and idiotcards aint part of it

i think the most efficient way to use anki is to learn chinese with it first. it will be easier to learn japanese when you already know chinese

>>21493006
>english on the front, manga on the back
now this is a terrible idea

>>21493008
>ur vocabulary "size" has nothing to do with getting "good" at japanese
this is clearly bullshit lmao
>actually everyone takes about the same amount of time
and so is this lmao if this were true why does quizmaster completely beat your ass at japanese despite studying just two years

except jamal can't really comment on that as he isn't good
but it's not entirely wrong
the point of anime cards is acquiring a large number of words fast and efficiently so you can consume your favorite anime books visual novels
not to be fluent in conversing about your boring life
and who goes to start learning the language with that goal
my goal is consuming shit and having a good time not getting some native to suck my dick
(though that'll be no problem too)

according to jamal you can be good at japanese knowing just 600 words hahah what a shitter

>>21493008
>knowing stuff that helps you get comprehensive input better doesn't help you learn faster
Sasuga jamal.

jamal is CANCELLED

? kids get fluent and spend the next 20 years building vocabulary but they are fluent first

have you ever talked to a kid they are retarded and not fluent lol kind of like you I guess

ur assessment isnt entirely wrong considering the one im talking to right now

>>21493078
ahahaha fucking zing

Gotta love the fact that both the original jamal and quiztard prolly left long ago and now it's just random namefags pretending to be them.

its really me dude just ask me anything u think real jamal would know and i know it cuz its me

Brainlet here. So, have I understood it correctly - I use mainly Kan-on when reading two or more kanji together and that Go-on reading is being used in a handful of kanji?

>>21492988
>personally in both cases i'd have the image on the front though.
for manga cards that would give you the entire sentence though, but not with anime cards

whats the point of manga cards u cant even read them.

>>21493101
No. You gotta learn it on a case to case basis.
日常 has a Go-on reading for 日 (にち), but 本日has a Kan-on reading (じつ) for the same character.

>>21493132
if u look that question up in japanese tho ull find some very contrary answers

but at the end of the day even obama knows how to learn japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aGOpjqAW3M

hmmmm

>>21493158
smoke and mirrors

going to a party in 2024. is this enough time to learn japanese?

>>21493198
if you're serious, yeah
but it's not worth it for a party lol

>>21493198
The only Japanese sentence you need to know is "私はゲイとちんぽが好き。"
That'll surely get you laid.

ここでいう

partyってにほんごでいうとなに？

Does manga count as listening practice?

The only reading that matters is reading Japanese anime subtitles

Nah, reading shitty auto-generated subtitles for Youtube videos, and actually noticing discrepancies between that and audio is more important than anime subs.

https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1223184857

たぶん議員だとおもうんだけど

国会？

>>21493243
>>21493293
"ヤツら"

this is definitely not the real quizmaster anymore

why not

>>21493349
>>21493364
he's offline in discord so he isn't online here either lol

why would I always be online on Discord I just have it set to offline anyway I'm the real one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynDj1owczE#t=46

what discord?

>>21493474
Which of her videos is this referencing?

youmu is a boy

>>21493515

doesn't m*tt link the djt netifly website in his video descriptions as a place to get reading material? doesn't he know that all of that is pirated material? doesn't he care about all the hard work people put into making those works?

>>21493542
does he not care about the fact that he linked to the OLD library?

>>21493542
the "works" matt has stolen are not from small content creators. they are largely from corporations or mildly successful authors.

you'd be more OK with someone stealing an apple than stealing a car, so why do this dishonest equivocation?

matt is the true quizmaster btw lol

Virtual Youtubers are some kind of weird intersection (not quite a slippery slope, but something like it) between the kind of voices you'd hear in anime and the unrehearsed speech you'd hear in videos featuring normal Japanese people.

https://streamable.com/d4prq

https://streamable.com/thgn4

Hahaha

>>21491258
maybe its time to link this more incessantly as to remind them

https://streamable.com/d4prq

too slow

oh god i wanna delete my post im dry heaving at the thought as being on the same wavelength as quiztard right now truly kimochi warui shit

>>21493576
>>21493579
>>21493585
>>21493587
now this is epic

>>21493576
woah sharex master has jumped on the jamal train. we gladly accept you bro

god its all fuckin over

>>21493542
stfu faggot

>stopped forcing myself to study X amount each day
>just watching a nihingo no mori video whenever I want which winds up being about once a day
>feels like I’m retaining everything, making progress, and obviously not burning out
Writing this out, it’s clear that the issue is that after I’ve been diligently studying and reviewing, I feel obligated to keep up the effort and when I don’t want to I just procrastinate and get burnt out. Any recommendations? Assuming both things cost the same amount of willpower, which is better? Focussed and motivated study for 8 hours once every couple weeks(in the form of reading+Hover dictionary, and not just speed reading via the translations) or daily 10 minute lessons about Japanese grammar (in Japanese)?
Focussed study seems beneficial but so does the frequency that comes from the videos.
PS I’ve experimented with caffeine, nicotine, and adafrinil (modafinil without prescription) for RATTATA but they haven’t helped terribly, Racetams seem promising but I haven’t gotten around to it yet.

>>21493625
> Focussed and motivated study for 8 hours once every couple weeks(in the form of reading+Hover dictionary, and not just speed reading via the translations) or daily 10 minute lessons about Japanese grammar (in Japanese)?
Both are equally useless if that's all you do.

>>21493625
do anime cards

>>21493610
Why does yogi the bear or whatever he's called look like someone chopped off the back of his head?

>>21493625
Make it an hour a day of reading + an hour a day of watching Youtube videos in Japanese every day. 8 hours of reading per week crammed into only one day seems much less efficient to me.

>>21493591
fucking lmao at this
gamba uncle jamal i believe in you

>>21493659
microcephaly

>>21493661
> 8 hours of reading per week crammed into only one day seems much less efficient to me.
Where did you get this from? He said 8 hours once every COUPLE weeks.

I would be less miffed about once every week.

>https://streamable.com/d4prq
who is this guy
"it's called the internet" so punchable

its hitouto matt

Coming here for my daily checkup to make sure no ones learning any Japanese.

yea same just stopping by to check on my dekinais and ecelebs for a few min

>>21493576
nice juxtaposition lol

>>21493685
That's young(er) Matt.

the 乃 (no) which appears in so many girls' names is the same as the possessive の and also the origin of the hiragana の
sugee!

I really love when normal words have cool Kanji makes me excited
just look at 顰蹙 holy shit

>>21493638
It’s all I do, but why does it feel like I’m making so much progress now? Is this the power of the affective filter? (Oh,
well technically I guess I also watch a few hours of anime a week and listen to Japanese music for almost an hour each day, and speed read/skim NHK articles whenever I’m taking a shit)

>>21493650
Been away from djt for a while can I get a quick red pill on anime cards is it just that onki add on that takes an anime episode and makes cards out of it or is something else?

>>21493661
It didn’t make sense to me either but in retrospect there’s a lot of Japanese I can recall that I learned via that way.

>>21493576
I'm surprised people dug that far, I think there's clips of him from like half a year ago telling people to torrent.
The kindle video, I think?

>>21493814
>can I get a quick red pill on anime cards
It's just something that namefag keeps shilling.

It's basically subs2srs cards but made using ShareX instead. This guy thinks he's some sort of revolutionary genius for coming up with the idea.

>>21493814
Anime cards are a new way of flash card creation that works on anime, video games, visual novels and everything else that gives off audio
it isn't dumb shit like subs2srs that converts an entire episode it is giving you the tools to create amazing cards of your own volition
the focus here is on fun and individuality but also to create maximally efficient flashcards that will boost your Japanese knowledge
here is a sample video of some cards, the important thing is only having the word on the front everything else is on the back
https://streamable.com/jyhp3
if you need more info just say so

>>21493576
>>21493579
Where does that old video even come from anyway?

>>21493814
it's like subs2srs but you have to make all the cards yourself

moe you were always a dumb cultists
you never had the qualifications to be my underling
not that I ever wanted that after all https://streamable.com/hua6c
and you lack the individuality and will power to stand next to me
you are a failure

>>21493814
>can I get a quick red pill on anime cards
Here's an in-depth video about them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx9aU408FGk

alright lets not make this about me im just calling it like i see it

>>21493858
i couldn't even watch a full minute of all that valley girl speak

>>21493661
Oh I just realized, if it’s such a long break between study sessions, then using nicotine and caffeine to enhance study actually totally viable.
Also there’s no reason it has to be either or, I should maybe try Nihongo no Mori videos, and scheduling an intense study session once every 2 weeks. Even though that’s more rigid than “whenever I feel like” it’s so infrequent that I can easily imagine not getting burnt out on it

Jesus, rubber duck debugging is no joke

>>21493858
this guy doesn't actually understand my cards and the advantages it has over his inefficient method so it's fine not to trust him

>>21493838
>it isn't dumb shit like subs2srs that converts an entire episode
You can tell subs2srs exactly what part of the video to use. You don't have to convert the entire episode.

Don't know why you keep repeating this bullshit.

>>21493875
You wouldn't know since you're too afraid to watch it, even though it was made as a direct response to you.

>>21493876
and why would you do that if there a method a million times faster for that lol

>>21493878
I side with >>21493865 on this one

Anyone has subs for High School DxD?
Ones on kitsuneko/itazura are in Chinese.

>>21493576
I'm dying

>>21493884
just watch something good dude

>>21493894
Good is boring.

>>21493899
Can anyone tell me what this says? It's supposed to be a Dragon Ball cap, but I've never seen this kanji in the show.

Quiz needs to make his patreon fast after dropping a big exposé on fucking pirate hypocrite RatvsJapan and his queer valley girl boybitch YogaRat

>>21493838
How do you recommend using them? My initial impression is that they’re used to reinforce not to learn. Like I imagine you’d watch an episode (with jp subs and looking up what you don’t know) then you’d add anything that was new (or old but very elusive).

>>21493882
>and why would you do that if there a method a million times faster for that lol
I'm just asking you to stop lying. Or is that too hard for you?

>>21493938
You just consume shit and have a good time
and when you see a cool new shiny word you add it to Anki and record the audio
it's really fast so you can do it while watching too
and then you just do your daily reps

>>21493967
have you ever heard of a hyperbole lol

I just saw this image in the catalog and couldn't help but associate it with certain people hahahaha

The main thing I found doing anime cards is that they are way more fun to rep and make. I usually delete my auto generated cards fairly quick or don't take them seriously. Cracking open a pack of anime cards feels like I'm getting nothing but charizards and blue eyes white dragons

>>21493882
>I side with >>21493865 on this one
Nah, you've already said the real reason why you won't watch it.

He hurt your fee-fees by calling you "belligerent", lmao.

>>21494001
yep exactly
I've tried explaining this before as well but people don't listen
I've deleted over 1000 cards out of my old deck and replaced them with Anime cards because it's just so much better and more fun

>>21493932
龍

>>21494011
It brings down the affective filter and makes anki less of a grind. They also let you associate words with richer contexts. Another sick bonus is you can put all the audio on your phone and listen there too. They're definitely more in line with krashen than naively misinterpreted notion of I+1 sentence cards

>>21494033
Based. Thanks

>>21493932
But it is in the show. Guess youre just a poser.

>>21494008
nah it's kind of the same feeling like living in a western democracy being a working class middle aged man doing your hours of intense physical labour everyday continually destroying your body day by day so your wife and children can live good lives just to be told by some rich daddy nose pierced purple haired fat feminist college tranny that you are the main contributor to the most sexist society in the world or whatever
it's just like nah I don't got time for this shit lol

>>21494011
i made like 3 of these kinds of cards and they were not more fun. i don't understand why you two are claiming this. they are vocab cards except they have a picture. woohoo. why does that matter?

>>21494039
yes all of that
damn I'm happy for a kindred spirit like you

>>21494051
Where?

I've achieved learning Japanese and it's not thanks to you people.
Fuck the all of you, you were of not use at all during those last two years.

This will be my last post on this thread. Want to learn Japanese? Get the hell out of here as fast as possible.

>>21494094
I bet I know more than you

>>21494094
how did you learn it?

>>21494057
Translation: You're a pussy who can't handle criticism.

Got it.

https://youtu.be/31d0b_swAAk
https://youtu.be/75gkm9i_wBc

Dogen status: DEPRECATED

>>21494111
oh u didnt get the memo before ? lol

>>21494057
What an insane about of butthurt coming from one man. This is what this website does to your brain, kids.

>>21494111
a worm will never be anything but a worm
and even if I take time out of my day and watch it pathetically wriggle in the dirt
it will never grow wings and soar into the sky
and my goal lies way beyond the sky, in the realm of gods
so why would I waste my time with worms

>>21491258
4chan has such a twisted sense of morality u should all be inspired by this dumbass instead

>>21494094
you don't know japanese

>>21494143
holy shit cringe lol

>>21494057
grow up pls

>>21494144
Don't pick on the assburger kid.

>>21494115
more like blowgen but heres what i got to say about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31d0b_swAAk#t=218

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npikFbIB7kE#t=56

>>21494143
but yoga lived in japan, china, and portugal, has started up a scam patreon business raking in over $1k a month developing some unnecessary gizmos and gadgets, and is respected by his cult. not only that but he schools anonymous kids like you in youtube videos.

meanwhile all you've got is inferior japanese abilities, and pretty much no one respects you.

>>21494164
whenever he stops linking our pirated content that he hates so much lol

but I still got my pride
and my anal virginity
lol

>>21494177
https://youtu.be/xcM9kCZt9o8?t=4394

>>21494194
>>21494194
>and my anal virginity

>>21494198

>>21494198
Still unironically better than Quiz who is constantly bragging about how good he is and how bad everyone else is but refuses to post any example of himself speaking Japanese.

>>21494194
hard to believe u when ur walkin around this thread with a pink sock the size of an elephant trunk lmao

https://streamable.com/7rt9p

BTW here is a preview of the CD I consumed yesterday
the audio quality is a actually lot better but it's fine as a preview
this kind of shit is so good to relax to after a stressful day of DJT posting
definitely recommend getting into it

>>21494255
nah still can't understand any of it so i'll just keep not understanding live action shit instead

>>21494255
didnt click or read lol

>>21494205
this language is so fuckin ez

>>21494255
i really like the feeling that im deaf in one ear this is great

>>21494255
At 0:58
＞となりで？ほっぴょう？つついてあげる
What is that ほっぴょう

>>21494255
woah I can actually understand a lot of this

>>21494291
ほっぺを

>>21494286
if you listen to the actual full quality audio files with good headphones it feels like somebody is actually talking into your ear
and that feeling is fucking intense

>>21494291
ほっぺ

>>21494300
gotcha, thanks

>>21494255
Is there a dl of this somewhere?

>>21493858
Watched 5 minutes of it, he explained what a sentence card is, what you should keep in mind as you review the card, then concluded that using sentence cards is more efficient and methodical. Am I a brainlet or did that conclusion not follow at all? Like, the benefit of sentence cards is that they’re easier and more holistic. It’s easier because you have context to infer from and it’s more holistic because it’s only presented in a context.

>>21494320
On http://hvdb.me but you need an account to download it.
However talking about it and then not providing you with a way to get it would be bad manners so here you go:
https://mega.nz/#!4Y8URa4I!hC6L20RbzP3CcO9MxzBpMneodVPEm0K4dlEAIWM8Wpo

>>21494324
>Watched 5 minutes of it
why are you drawing conclusions without watching it in its entirety? I'm not saying yogay is right but this is pretty lazy reasoning on your part

>>21494363
bro who's gonna watch a whole video of an uptalking queer's annoying voice, you should praise him for lasting 5 minutes

>>21494357
O wau, thanks QM, I completely expected you to just say "it's on pt", and leave it at that.

>>21494357
how infrequently do registrations open

>>21494381
I'll delete the link in an hour or so btw so if you want to download it you should do it now

>>21494390
Not sure but chances are they'll be open next christmas

>>21494363
It was because he made such an unreasonable conclusion at that time, I didn’t just get bored or something I figured it would be fair to assume he would continue to ramble and make empty assertions for the remaining 2/3 of the video. I’ll watch the rest and see though

>>21494001
>The main thing I found doing anime cards is that they are way more fun to rep and make. I usually delete my auto generated cards fairly quick or don't take them seriously. Cracking open a pack of anime cards feels like I'm getting nothing but charizards and blue eyes white dragons
this is how i feel when the audio and screenshot are on the front :) straight up feels like i'm just re-watching parts of the show

>>21494205
got a card for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLequ6dUdM

jamal is there a japanese equivalent to this song?

fantastic thread

>>21494491
post your filters

>>21494491
Somebody tell him he missed an epic CD download link.

BTW ever since I finished 銀河英雄伝説 I have actually been struggling adding enough words. At this rate I'm going to run out of new words to mine holy shit.

told u

>>21494500
why would u want to help out someone who covers their eyes from the shit theyre rolling in

>>21494503
most words you learned were probably pretty specific to old timey military jargon right? so just find some other media about highly specialized topics.

>>21494521
I just don't like to be perceived as the bad guy when all I've been doing is sharing methods, sharing resources and material while fighting group thinking and cultists and holding DJT to higher standards

>>21494534
I don't know I feel I didn't get that many super specialized words out of it
the level of vocab and speech was simply far higher than any other show I watched
I suppose I did actually get some specialized shit 縦深 comes to mind

>>21494115
https://youtu.be/dyQs27Rycaw

>>21494552
>when all I've been doing is sharing methods
, insulting people, lying, being a braggart, attentionwhoring...

>everywhere i go, i seem to piss everyone off... i wonder if i'm doing something wrong? no, it must be everyone else's fault!

>>21494628
Quote me on a lie I told I'm interested

except the ones about leaving haha I guess that I fucked up

name 1 person who respects quiztard

>>21494678
quiztard

>>21494678
quiztard pretending to be someone else

>>21494357
Deleted already?

>>21494690
Yea I said I'd delete it
>>21494392

>>21494640
You were already pulled up on lying once in this very thread. I refuse to believe your memory is that short. Fuck off.

>>21494694
a hyperbole is not a lie it's a rhetorical device

>>21494678

I have a lot of respect for Quizmaster, he is one of the best posters this general has ever seen.

>>21494693
good, now don't share anything else. it's all worthless anyway.

i respect the idealized quizbro unfortunately the real one is a raging kid trying to push his vocab card gimmick

>>21494698
>lie
>noun
>An intentionally false statement.
Fuck off.

>>21494611
https://youtu.be/i5hkXfiyYRo
>2019
>still using Anki
>not memorizing words in the shower

What are some relatively easy shounen anime? I've gone through a bunch of slice of life and want to move on to something a bit more fun/challenging. My big problem right now is getting lost in long ass sentences when I can't recognize multiple words or piece together wtf is going on. Any action shounen that aren't too hard in that regard? I know it's a dumb question.

you need high levels of japanese to get this https://youtu.be/FiQnH450hPM

>>21494744
good ol' dragon ball

>>>/h/5365275
>there will be an open invite period from 12:00 AM June 16, 2019 to 12:00 AM June 17, 2019 (GMT)

>>21494744
Define shounen.

Last season 約束のネバーランド was fine to follow as a beginner and it's a shounen jump manga so it qualifies I guess. But people mostly ask this because they want longer shows. I watched Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood recently but at times that one was a bit rough to follow for me. Definitely good practice in that regard.

>>21494744
kimetsu no yaiba

>>21494489
i dont know of 1

matt said in last night's livestream he finished like 15 novels and half-read like 150 novels. so get your facts straight :)

who cares he aint teachin no 1 japanese or making japanese more accessible

the link in this post >>21494758 is more useful than all of matts content past present and future

>>21494765
That's a good idea tbqh
>>21494786
The reason I asked is because slice of life is getting real fucking boring to watch and I'm thinking if I had some action or cliffhangers going it would be a bit more compelling at least.
>>21494805
I did notice it seemed pretty easy when watching with Eng subs, cheers

>>21494852
Just watch shows you wanna watch then. At worst you gotta go slower and learn more.

imagine picking what anime to watch based on anything relating to ur japanese ability lmfao

>>21494885
kys

>>21494852
Last Exile is the most cliffhanger-series of those I seen.
Also its art is Range Murata.

I've seen it pretty long ago though - I think it was low on word-count, not much talking.

>>21494628
>insulting people, lying, being a braggart, attentionwhoring...
the thing is, you imbeciles have been doing all these things on DJT far before quizmaster even got here. i think now you’re just mad because when he does it he’s actually has a basis for it (being demonstrably better at japanese than most of you), which gets under your skin.

>>21494868
>At worst you gotta go slower and learn more.
That's really aids though both because it saps all the fun out of it if I have to spend a minute on each sentence only for whatever """""understanding""""". Also it seems logical to incrementally increase the difficulty just like you'd do with any other thing you learn over time.
>>21494902
Ty

>>21494916
>only for whatever """""understanding""""" I achieve to be completely wrong
Drifted off there for a second

>>21494916
It's fine to shop around a bit for stuff that seems like you can deal with it somehow, but don't spend forever chasing that elusive "just difficult enough but not too difficult" series that might not exist.

>>21494900
why would i choose death over owning u every day lol

>>21494916
whats illogical is thinking u have any ability in gauging difficulty in a meaningful way

go ahead try and explain it in logical terms

>>21494852
>watching shows with english subs
ngmi, should've gotten your 10k before starting, not after

>>21494910
>(being demonstrably better at japanese than most of you)
still waiting on that 自己紹介動画 quizzy

>>21494363
>>21494403
ok i watched the rest of it. btw i had actually misheard him lol, he said it was the most methodical and efficient way to use sentence cards, not that sentence cards are more methodical and efficient. anyways here's his main points in the video:
sentence cards 1. increase language ability by "leaps and bounds" when compared to immersion alone. 2. are good because you get exposure to use cases and to other words which helps you remember more stuff for free.
proponents of word only cards: 1. are saying to rote memorize whats on the back of the card first (jfc i hope not) 2. have higher mental overhead by testing themselves on multiple things each card 3. don't have the repeated use cases benefit of sentence cards 4. claim to do their reps so quickly -> 5. that it is unlikely for them to be testing themselves on the multiple things with high mental overhead each card.

assuming that's what they actually say then they're dumb. but besides that here's my counter argument to the rest of his points:
1. it doesn't follow that sentence cards would be better than immersion alone because the reasons that are given for sentence cards being good are the same things that immersion completely eclipse sentence cards on.
2. even though sentence cards use natural japanese, you are over exposing yourself to a single sentence (for example one sentence 100 times instead of 100 different sentences once), giving a biased impression of the word as well as gutting any nuance you'd have otherwise gained if you had immersed instead.
3. flashcards excel in two areas, rote memorizing small related sets and gentle reminders. you shouldn't use flashcards for comprehension, learning, or even memorizing words. they're best to just make you go "oh yeah" when you see a word that you almost didn't recognize. word cards allow you just look at the word and do that but a sentence card pushes you to do more instead as well as take more time reading.

the strongest point he made in the video was a side note about how you should make a new card for each homonym instead of cramming all these different words on a card (lol). sentence cards do completely outclass word cards when it comes to homonyms.

どうもこんにちはquiztardです

今日はですね https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR1EoGNJWNM#t=3933

>>21494910
the annoying part comes in when someone starts namefagging because it means they're being serious you moron.

>>21494977

>>21494946
If I feel like jumping out my window when watching it it's too hard. I can't gauge objective difficulty but I can gauge my subjective experience.
>>21494924
I've been guilty of this ngl but I've stopped overthinking it, I'll just pic one of the recommendations and do it
>>21494957
I had a few thousands before starting but I'm not gonna stop watching with english subs because it's fun.

>>21495004
well as long as u put in more work w. eng subs ull be fine someday

https://streamable.com/7ve6v

Just finished listening to this. It was a lot shorter but it made me feel really happy because it's about a girl extremely important to me and I feel like the voice fits as well. Smiled throughout the entire thing. My love reblossomed you could say.

>>21495034
don't care

eng subs have already been debunked by matt, khatz, dolly etc

>>21495034
didnt click or read but heres ur conciliatory you

>>21495037
>>21495047
you are missing out guys

i mean if ur havin fun with japanese stuff im super stoked for u but anything that has ur stamp on it is just so undesirable that i cant even bear to read more than a sentence of it

>>21494611
>>21494725
I was wondering how he got so good at English compared to most Japanese people and managed to find a video where he talks about how he learned it in more detail on another channel he has:
https://youtu.be/Oy2vw-Nrpq8
https://youtu.be/Oy2vw-Nrpq8?t=156

If you don't want to watch the video:
He basically did what you could call "AJATT-lite" (or I guess "AEATT-lite" since it's English). He says (Japanese) people should learn English just by doing things they find fun in English instead of Japanese (he mentions watching Western movies with English subtitles and reading articles in English about things of interest to him as examples). He says by doing this, learning English won't feel like studying anymore.

He also mentions that he did a lot of passive listening, basically using any (what Steve would call) dead time (driving, bathing, etc.) he had to listen to stuff in English - BUT, he recommends only doing this with things you have already listened to properly and understand both the contents and story of (he says you can use Japanese subs - or English subs in our case - to achieve this level of understanding if you need to). He says if you do it with something you're not familiar with then it will just become background noise and you won't get anything out of it.

In terms of learning to output, he talks about imitating whatever you're listening to when you're alone, aiming for 30 minutes to an hour per day. He says whenever he was listening to anything while driving, he was pretty much shadowing it constantly.

He doesn't appear to have used Anki at all, though he talked in one of the videos I already posted about using the sort of language learning CDs you get with Genki while in the shower to memorise words and phrases (he also talks about imitating those too while listening).

(what I intended to be a summary probably ended up being longer than the actual video, lol)

https://streamable.com/0qkjs

Man I'm fucking in love with these. I love Suika. I love these audio tracks.
I feel like I accidentally stumped into heaven. These are beautiful and absolutely soul soothing.

>>21495004
ngmi

I'm so fucking gay lmao.

>>21495103
>>21495034
Schlacke

>>21495113
わたしもです

>>21494065
>and they have the audio from the episode...

>>21495113
yea i think you think you're doing something by sharing this pointless bullshit and that does make you gay

>>21495103
Oh dang, there's a suika one too?
I really gotta get an invite for that site.

>>21495127
yea but so what? taking longer to do cards by listening to audio is "fun"? what? why wouldn't i just watch more anime? it doesn't make sense.

the question i have for quis master is.. how many of the words you make cards for do you actually see again in another context? i'd imagine many are so obscure that you don't see them again for several months

>>21495132

I already linked a way to get in

>>21494778

good luck in ur new community on /h/

>>21495134
>taking longer to do cards by listening to audio is "fun"?
is watching anime you like "fun"? then watching a tiny portion of the anime that naturally 連想s memories from the episode should be too. unless you're autistic.

>>21495138
Niice, it's usually a pain to get into these.

>>21495092
Geez and I thought this only worked for Japanese wtf?

When did he do RTK though?

>>21495135
You are not wrong but it's not a problem because
1. anime card format makes shit easy to remember and I get big intervals even with just one appearance
2. word card format makes reviewing really fast
combining these two I don't need to worry in the slightest about what I add
I can add everything it won't impact my learning negatively at all no matter how rare the word is
got a shitton of words from 銀河英雄伝説 that natives don't know and that I might never see again but Idc lol

>>21495143
>unless you're autistic
ironic

>>21495127
which quiztard has already admitted he doesn't even listen to except on new cards

like yoga said, if he's doing 4 second reps then there's no way he is reviewing any of that shit he spends so much time and effort putting on the backs of his cards

for all practical purposes, anime cards are literally just vocab cards with pictures on the back like >>21494065 said

can you believe this guy lol >>21495160
I explained him how to review anime cards 100 times now
and he still makes this shit up
what a guy

>>21495148
>shitton of words from 銀河英雄伝説 that natives don't know
what is your source for natives not knowing them?

>>21495165
natives telling me they don't know

>>21495165
his ass

>>21495166
and what does this "shitton" that you asked them about amount to?

did you present them just the word on its own in kanji or did you show them the clip from the anime where the word was used and ask them if they understood the sentence?

>>21495165
>>21495166
agreed with quizmaster. watashi wa native desu and watashi wa also not know

>>21495143
>then watching a tiny portion of the anime that naturally 連想s memories from the episode should be too
hearing 5-10 second audio clips out of context when i'm trying to get through cards as fast as possible is not "fun". manually generating the picture and audio for each and every card seems pretty autistic, but who cares what's autistic.

>>21495188
why do you care I got words from it that natives don't know and that's all I wanted to say
why do you home in on all this shit nobody cares about you got a real problem with me huh
I showed actual clips of the show btw

Three days ago I learned the English word 'larynx'.
I saw it only once and yet I remember it now. Why did I not need an SRS for it?

>>21495201
SRS is so you remember it more than 3 days later, retard

>>21495209
I'm gonna bet you I will remember this word 6 months from now if I never ever see it again until then (which is very likely, since I haven't seen it before either).

>>21495212
Ok anon, guess you simply don't need an SRS. Learn Japanese without it.

>>21495201
Because you already fucking know English, you can naturally learn a new word in the handful without SRS. But I bet that if you try to memorize super technical jargon words in highly specific fields like Neurobiology, you'd forget most of the words without aids like SRS. Same fucking thing with learning a language

>>21495201
dumbass

>anon has eidetic memory
>immediately /djt/ dekinais hate on him
wow never change guys i am literally shaking my head rn

>>21495227
Who are you quoting?

>>21495241
why does it matter to you. i have my sources

you can actually grind japanese words in an srs easier because of kanji i think

>>21495241
>HAHA I POSTED IT AGAIN

>>21495260
I think you made a mistake there, friend. That sequence of word hasn't been posted before in this thread, so you can't be quoting someone, but that's what the green arrow is used for :-)

>>21495260
That doesn't answer my question at all. Why would you intentionally misuse the quote feature?

>>21495269
It's not "the quote feature", it's just an arrow that turns text after it green. Where does it say in the 4chan rules that arrow = quoting?

It's completely normal to come across a few words you don't know even when reading English literature.

>>21495288
Wow the guy who wrote this must be very smart. Look at all these big words.

>>21495288
it's not normal for me. i don't read pointless shit like that.

>>21495275
https://www.4chan.org/faq#quote

>>21495297
This only shows that you quote with arrows, not that arrows always symbolize a quote.

>>21495288
Native speakers would be surprised how often their internal definition of some words does not really align with an official definition of that word, even though they're sure they understand what it means.

>>21495297
>being this autistic

>>21495092
thanks for writing it up, that's pretty much how i learned english as well
it's really hard to do it in english though because a lot of the shit i consume in english simply has no good equivalent in japanese
aeatt is so fucking easy to do compared to ajatt

>>21495334
>>21495092
>it's really hard to do it in english though
*it's really hard to do it in japanese though

>>21495322
Who are you quoting?

japanese is hard

>>21495219
Anki is hugely popular among medical students for exactly this reason

>>21495366
how so

>>21495303
my fave thing is the bit torrent client shortcut on his bar lol

>>21494001
Quiztard stop posting anom to support your bs, we hate you