/jp/ - Otaku Culture

If you plan on watching One Piece make sure you watch this video so you can fully understand the nuances
https://youtu.be/vxt5QoJO-ag

Almost done with last season, what next?

I don't understand a thing when higher ups talk in military settings

yea military and sci-fi shit are insanity mode

how many hours of listening and mining military and sci-fi until you understand most military and sci-fi-specific lingo????

>>21338912
high score girl

>>21338912
end roll

>revisiting shit you couldn't understand before but it's now moderately comprehensible

How do I insult a Korean like a real patriotic Japanese?

>>21339200
step 1: Be Japanese.

>>21338882
日本語を読むことを勉強したかったらら、どのマンガを読むことが良いですか？よつばとをよんだことがありますが、ちょっとつまらないと思いました。読み続くことがいいですか？

Koreans are still seething to this day lol

>>21339217
>マンガを読む
違う

>>21339217
idk what kind of manga you like bro
donna janru ga suki desu ka

>>21339229
Where was this when I did core2k6 to completion 2 years ago?

>>21339239
I don't know but you gotta help me by posting it in these threads so newfags stop falling for the guide on the website

>>21339243
I'll be glad if I can avert just one guy from doing the same mistake I did.

>>21339217
マンガは読書じゃない。

What's the difference between V2K and vncore?

>>21339239
What's wrong with Core2k? I'm using Wanikani but thinking about picking up an Anki deck as well.

叡智　エッチ　H

>>21339257
V2k has words taken from a smaller pool of VNs, which is why it's less representative of what Japanese in otaku media is like, for the most part.

>>21339263
I should've clarified: I finished it before starting step 4.

>頭を垂れた
*eyebrow twitches* wtf.... is that FUCKIGN reading... JAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>21339276
oof

should I be pausing as I watch anime to yomichan the subtitles even if I'm not mining at the moment? I've got some cards stored up so I don't need to mine for another day or so

>>21339263
Wanikani provides you with more or less the same kind of teaching material as core6k + RTK. Since you already spent your money on wanikani, I wouldn't suggest you to drop it. What I do suggest you to do is to download one of the VNs on Jamal's chart and to read it.

>>21339249
>>21339232
本当？正しい言葉は何？

>>21339304
絵を見る

>>21339304
あれはミームだけである
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>>21339309
そうです。ありがとう、無名なポスター。
>>21339229
I took a japanese class in HS for four years, and I'm hoping to continue in college. I didn't really study too much outside of school, except for a bit over the summer to keep myself from regressing, so I started doing kanjidamage a while ago. We never learned onyomi for kanji in class, and barely studied kanji in general, so I guess it's nice to actually learn kanji. I still suck, though.

is there a board like 4chan's /b/ on 2channel or Futaba? or what's the most infamous one?

>>21339341
japs arent allowed to see or post uncensored porn so there isn't going to be one

>>21339217
むけがだいじ

しょうじょむけ？しょうねんむけ？

せいねんむけ？じょしむけ？

おとなむけ？

>>21339298
Thanks fren, I'll check it out.

Japanese are the biggest weabos. The amount if western medieval themed anime they produce shows this clearly.

suggest me some songs to hear while studying nihongo

>>21339217
>>21339355
よつばと！は

せいねんむけ

だよ

is this a dumb idea?
vocab anki cards with the reading super small on the front like this
so if i remember it i can just use that to 確認 and if i don’t it’s no big deal i can practice the reading there but still pass the card if i remembered the meaning

>>21339217
誰か「なんで早めにアウトプットのはダメ？」と聞いたら、俺はあなたが書いた日本語を見せる

>>21339257
they're completely unrelated

>>21339217
>よつばとをよんだことがありますが、ちょっとつまらないと思いました。
俺も同じ事を思った、マイ・ニガー。あの「何も起こらない」ような漫画は日本語のヘタクソ初心者にはあんま相応しくないとおもうな。

サスペンスとかクリフハンガーとかがなければ日本語と戦い続ける気合があなま出てこないよな。

>>21339505
reading is more important than meaning so no

>>21339505
>is this a dumb idea?
>vocab anki cards with the reading super small on the front like this
Yes. Anki is fundamentally there to test your ability to read words. If you can't read a word on your own then you failed the card. End of story.

>but still pass the card if i remembered the meaning
Here's the problem with your thinking. You are not remembering the meaning (unless you're trying to recite the definition from a J-J dictionary from memory, which would be stupid), you're remembering an English approximate, which really doesn't mean anything. It's conscious knowledge, not intuitive knowledge, the latter being the only thing that actually matters and also being something that you can't ever hope to learn or memorize from a flashcard.

>>21339505
sounds good

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1565222544
kill point addon for 2.1, have fun
if you want to edit it so it works with the original scheduler (hi matt/yogapants/nukemarine) go ahead

>>21339527
>マイ・ニガー
lmao
サスペンスのようなことｇある漫画を教えてください。僕は英語で砂ぼうぞを読んでいました。日本語で書いたのマンガがありますか？

>>21339580
＞砂ぼうぞ
*砂ぼうず

>>21339527
>>21339580
おもしろいまんがって

むずかしいにほんごでてくるよ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Rie_Isogai

>Rie Isogai (磯谷 利恵 Isogai Rie, 20 July 1976[1] – 25 August 2007) was a 31-year-old Japanese office clerk who was robbed and murdered in Aichi Prefecture on the night of 24 August 2007 by three men who became acquainted through an underground message board.[2][3] Because the three men met on an underground website, the case is frequently called the Dark Site Murder (闇サイト殺人 Yami Saito Satsujin) in Japan, "dark site" being the Japanese term for underground websites.

Was it Futaba or 2channel? Could someone help me find the name of that site, my nip is not good enough. I tried
>闇サイト殺人 サイトの名前

>>21339546
>you're remembering an English approximate
which has a meaning. or do english words no longer have meanings lol.

if i say “big, redりんごを持ってます” to someone who knows both japanese and english, is it meaningless? big and red no longer mean what they do because they’re next to japanese now?

>>21339590
>むずかしいにほんごでてくるよ
しまった。面白くて、読み優しいマンガを教えてください

>には
is that both the に　and は　particles together?
so in kyoto is the topic?

>>21339609
the topic is 京都に

When it comes to within Kyoto, there are a lot of temples.

ah yes 暗号学 definitely does not mean "cryptography (the academic discipline thereof)"

>>21339594
>持ってます

>>21339620
You don't know Japanese.

京都にはお寺が多くまします

>>21339609
get in the habit of not asking questions when you know what stuff means

heard 便所飯 in anime n thought of ****

>>21339609
>is that both the に and は particles together? Yes, double particles, like には, では, でも, andにも, exist in Japanese.
>so in kyoto is the topic?
No, it's just Kyoto, but the way the grammar works "in Kyoto" is a very natural way to translate it. All the には is doing is adding the nuance of limiting what's being talked about regarding the topic. "There are a lot of temples in Kyoto (but in some other places there aren't)."

>>21339594
"Big" and "red" are very simple nouns with no ambiguities. Of course, you knew that already which is why you deliberately (and disingenuously) chose to use them to argue your point.

You need more than just simple nouns like "red" and "big" to use a language though, I'm sorry to tell you.

>>21339607
にほんといえば

れんあいもの？

しょうじょむけと

じょしむけ

どっちがいい？

>>21339643
Sure thing, namefag.

My comprehension rises from 20% to 80% when I turn on jp subs.

>>21339756
lower the playback speed

>>21339760
To be honest I gave up on listening at this point. Maybe it will come naturally when I have read 100 vns but it's too much of a hassle to focus on it now.

>>21339764
for me listening is the most important thing, but to each his own I guess

>>21339786
I've seen at least 50 animes raw and 100 with eng subs before I started learning japanese. Yet I still wonder around 20% comprehension. I'm clearly not made to understand japanese phonetically.

People who think you need to train listening separately are retarded. You can’t understand what is being said solely due to not knowing the words well enough and that’ll go away merely by consuming more Japanese. If you understand more with Japanese subtitles use them and enjoy consuming. You will want to watch things without available subtitles at some point anyway so no need to rush it.

There is also the kind of retard who thinks he perfectly understands spoken Japanese but can’t read, lol @ that.

sometimes the readtards just btfo themselves

obviously listening to stuff in japanese will make you better at listening to stuff in japanese and to a certain extent you have to do so to be good at understanding what you hear but it's not like a completely separate skill lmao

what is the difference between 死す and 死ぬ？

>>21339229
>>21339239
>>21339243
>>21339245
fuck off

>>21339858
まえに

ばしょ

がくっつくと

>～に死す

になる

まえに

げんいん

がくっついて

>～で死ぬ
>～により死ぬ

ってくっつく

>>21339843
Ironic

大学に行きたくない

お前の顔に射精したいです

there should be a game like Pokemon where you collect Japanese kanji/vocab
inb4 Anki

I mean something much more interactive, like a game

with little girls on it

>>21339993
just go to /rheg/ in /vp/ and make a romhack duh
be the change you want to see

>>21339656
>"Big" and "red" are very simple nouns with no ambiguities. Of course, you knew that already which is why you deliberately (and disingenuously) chose to use them to argue your point.
the majority of words in most languages can be accurately described with words of another language, because we're all humans experiencing more or less the same shit. even something more "complex", like the 地団太踏む in that pic is not some mystical impossible to understand concept that you can only know if you've read 50 japanese novels. the english "approximation" describes literally exactly what it means -- "to stamp one's feet (in frustration, impatience, etc.)​"

yes, there are things that have important nuances that require a good amount of context to fully get. but your statement that knowing the english def "doesn't mean anything" was a really outlandish exaggeration which i see parroted a lot. it does mean something, which is why people can drill an english def of a word for a while, later see that word again in a sentence in the wild, and correctly understand what's happening where they wouldn't have before -- ditching the english soon after. the english word/description is a temporary conduit for meaning.

over time as more contexts are encountered, the meaning that the english was pointing to/"approximating" becomes sculpted and refined and more intuitive, but for the vast majority of common-use words, that sculpting won't be a complete turnover of what you thought the word meant when you read the english def. it'll usually be more or less the same "meaning" but without needing an english word intermediary to reach it anymore.

Anyone here learnt another language after Japanese?

You don't know just Japanese, right?

ｊｉｂｕｎ　ｈａ　ｅｉｇｏ　ｗｏ　ｂｅｎｋｙｏｕｓｈｉｍａｓｕ

>>21340055
just english and japanese. plus an amount of french that doesn't really matter lol. might go back to french later but there really isn't that much french media that interests me.

>>21340055
Every european itt.

>>21339229
post the short one

>>21340055
anyone in this thread who is done with nihongo doesnt know nihongo
there are like 2 exceptions
>>21340066
he said after

>>21340074
>he said after
Oh he meant it in like chronologically? English is totemo difficult.

>>21339287
頭を振る

踵を返す got me for a very long time too.

>>21339592
インターネット上の携帯電話用闇サイト「闇の職業安定所」

>>21340077
fuck I thought this was read atama
thanks

>>21340081
i saw that one with furigana like a million times in dies irae so it ingrained itself in my brain without needing anki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PMR3GI5YE4

?

>>21340137
!

if we consider jamals chart a progression chart, how many should i read in each row before i would be able to move on to harder stuff?

>>21340147
u gotta do what feels right
if u think ur ready move up
dont stay in a comfort zone too long
i did less than one vn worth of reading in the first two categories before jumpin solidly into 普通 lol but i think movin up from there would be a mistake
still might try kusarihime or somethin soon cuz u dont know until u give it a go

>>21340147
None because they are all shit

>>21340178
what do you recommend then?

>>21340181
10000 hours of anime

>>21339842
>People who think you need to train listening separately are retarded. You can’t understand what is being said solely due to not knowing the words well enough
That is not true at all. Sometimes when you listen to something you can't even make out the exact syllables that are being said, so you could look it up on Jisho or something. Being able to do that perfectly is raw listening skill and you have to practice it. Having a large vocabulary can give you the illusion of being good at this because your brain just fills in the blanks through context.

>>21340263
can confirm this because i got fucked in the ass when i first started watching raw anime, even though my vocab was easily 10k+ from reading. the vocab actually didn't help that much, sometimes i couldn't for the life of me even understand the most basic shit they were saying
about two months of practice now and this doesn't happen that often anymore

>>21340289
same here my listening only improved when i actively just listened to raw anime without subs

the subs are a massive crutch but noone likes to go from 90% comprehension to 20% because your brain cant process spoken language. i think once you get up to high listening comprehension you can turn the subs back on and it wont be as bad but as some point you're gonna have to focus on improving just your listening or you'll never get good at it imo

>>21340055
Jap an English are the only ones worth knowing.

>>21340308
this

Malcolm Gladwell's rule posting needs to stop.

>>21340335
read 10 million characters and you're fluent
idc how long it takes you

>>21340347
u mean words

>>21340347
10 million characters is really not that much. that could be as few as 8-10 VNs

how about 5m sentences

is it bad if use songs to mine words?

>>21340373
probably not but usually they are used in weird contexts in lyrics because japanese songs mostly use lyrics just for their sound quality rather than meaning

QM I'm ready for anime cards. How do I make clips in mpv?

>>21340373
probably not, the first thing I understood fully was the watamote ED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWOTQRduHeA
Although if the English subtitles in that video are 100% correct then I didn't understand it.

茶々を入れる
another word with the wrong definition in jmdict smdh

Is this what I get for using free subs?

>>21340504
what's the error

>>21340504
theres doesnt appear to be anything wrong with this

>>21340431
>出会がなんだよ
not
>一人がなんだよ
every lyric site says it's the former, I hear the latter and my copy of the show says the latter.
Fuck you it makes more sense.

>>21340536
you're genuinely deaf lol. try slowing it down to 0.25 speed. you can't escape the でえええあいいいい in that case

>>21340536
>my copy of the show says the latter
maybe u primed urself to be permanently crippled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Ns_B23LT0&feature=youtu.be&t=21

post bangers

>>21340555
Maybe, I know I heard the song before the show came out, thought it was going to be the OP.

>>21340550
Does sound more like 出会 at half speed, but at full speed it's definitely somewhere between え　and い

>>21340570
you need to listen to more japanese lol you're probably hearing all kinds of shit wrong

>60%
never gonna make it

ジャマルは邪魔です

lol sick pun

>>21340581
forgot pic

>>21340591
not even learning any new cards smdh

>>21340619
well i finally finished my premade decks so hopefully my retention improves

>>21340147
>>21340175
dont consider it a progression chart too much tho in the case of the middle category the 2 columns were intentionally sorted as a lower and upper tier originally

after that the hard category was mostly a joke but sort of not as i only put things that require both cognition and knowing of japanese to be a good experience - u cant just click ur way thru and have a good time with these

elf in wonderland is a special case cuz the requirement to play that is nothing else but having completed the rest of the elf library also i put it there cuz katakana is unreadable : )

ありがとう頑張りました

>>21340627
maybe futuu should be split for clarity what game would u convert to a picture

>>21340147
I'm not finding a difference in difficulty between Angel Beats and Leyline at all so I'm not sure that differences in difficulty between 普通 and やさし matters for a beginner. But maybe Angel Beats is the easiest in 普通.

>>21340585
お邪魔します : )

*靴を脱がないで家に入る*

>>21340642
i aint changin nothin i dont do patches

>>21340644
geyline is not on my chart

btw the yasashii category is actually my favourite overall : )

Can someone help me out here. I set up the anime cards system using this https://pastebin.com/8wBhNhvc but I get this error whenever I try to grab anything.

>>21340654
ill patch ur shit thats what i do in this thread these days
my real question is does nasu lean left or right but if u want me to flip a coin its aight

>>21340660
idk i picked the nasu image before i started adding titles to the category lol

id say left but has moments where he tilts a bit the other way

btw if ur gonna do this u can call left column 普通 and right column 普通ツー

i decided to keep the change small but ill keep ur advice in mind if the time comes

>>21340657
you dont have your anki deck or your yomichan set up correctly to correspond to the anki deck.

>>21340688
>>21340657
I fixed it. One of the words on the fields was not uppercase. QM should correct that in his Pastebin. The {{front}} on the front template should be capitalized. Shit threw me off for a while.

animetards lol

at least theyre watchin anime tho

>>21340697
the field and the template are both lowercase ? you could have just copied what he said and it would have worked

btw i aint real happy with the barring off anything
like i said i jumped into fu2
my intent is not about sayin dont start here
its more about sayin u dont need to read 10 ez vns or somethin before u can join the party cuz some people seem to overestimate what futuu means

>>21340710
oh, I already had a skeleton made before I grabbed from the pastebin. Guess it was mostly my fault there. It would still look good to have it capitalized though.

idk if overestimate is the right word they prolly just dont grasp how much it really encompasses lol

anyway yah thats why i didnt put dumb shit like u have to have read this much to play anything

ull figure it all out on ur own if u just play

dont sweat the categories too much : )

and if u ever feel like ur ready to instantly liquefy ur wax wings u can always challenge イマ

Why did they stop including the "no" in names? Shit was cool.

why is japanese the coolest sounding language in existence by far?

idk man, Italian sounds pretty cool as well.

lol no it doesn't.

>>21340768
cuz its redundant

>>21340768
only families awarded surnames by the emperor can use の in their name

Nani?

>>21340848
How much Japanese do I need to be fluent in Japanese Twitter memes?

>>21340848
Basically, taste in porn is the ultimate 土壇場 to 深める your 親睦

>>21340848
lol

>>21341106
this is how anki drones speak lol

^This is how animetards speak because they don't know the kanji to write out a sentence, so they use English.

i didnt realise what u wrote was a sentence lol

You can't even spell you correctly, mate.

ur all fucking gay.

i like this thread a lot

>>21341184
This is not very bushido code of you, my ninja. Please come back when you're done struggling with your graded reader.

george trombone ftw

https://streamable.com/cp62l

>>21341169
>don't know the kanji to write out a sentence
if a sentence had no kanji could u still read it

>>21341195
who do u think ur @ing with that right now

>>21341199
I couldn't even read it if it was in kanji. I can't even read japanese, I just like talking shit.

>>21340723
>>21340697
>>21340710


It’s smaller case to make field searching and field restriction easier in the card browser.

>>21341210
sasuga the quiz master

quizzler's low self esteem made this thread pretty entertaining for awhile

>>21341201
Some 下痢 slurping jabroney, most likely

love quiz chan

cuz i say quiz kinda like a twisted version of chris so im really saying chris chan lol

Which textbook is to be used after "An Integrated Approach To Intermediate Japanese"? I'm close to the end of "An Integrated Approach To Intermediate Japanese" (Only 2 more chapters) after having done Genki 1+2 respectively, and would in advance like to know what book to use afterwards? Preferably not Tobira as that book seems incredibly complicated to work with.

>>21341210
what about the rest of the fields

>>21341222
true enough but i cant slurp it if u dont post it just food for thought lol

>>21341215
It's more productive and fun to be in now that that drag is gone. If he truly stays by his word this time I might stop disliking him since he's attempting to better himself. So far he's been so fucking cringy.

>>21341228
I don’t really use them for searching or whatever but you can capitalize it or not I mean who cares it’s just preference.

>>21341226
textbook this *unzips*

can u guys even say ur as dedicated to ur japanese learning as this guy

https://streamable.com/ay43z

>>21341222
>下痢
>―する 大便が固まらず、水のようになって出ること。くだりばら。はらくだし。
does する大便 literally mean "to do feces" which could be thought of as "to produce feces"?
so "To produce feces that doesn't harden, and comes out/appears as liquid."

>>21341239
im not as dedicated to getting free college money from my parents as that guy

>>21341229
I hope you like corn, my degenerate 友

I actually haven't read any of it. I just put it right on my wall.

How much does having a Japanese translator on retainer?
Maybe it makes more sense to focus on making money and then hiring someone

>十分
Really? What a joke of a word. Dumbass butchered language.

>>21341243
Hey pal. The ーする is just the dictionary telling you it can be attached to this word. You can have your 下痢 and する it too. The definition starts with 大便.

>>21341262
Thank you.

>tfw no energy left for nippongo after jacking off

>>21341253
i like koRn

anyway i made this in ur honour enjoy

https://streamable.com/2a8h1

how do i get other jp threads to accept me? they can tell i'm from djt

>>21341289
Actually learn japanese

>>21341272
Thanks 相棒. 大便強になりました

You don’t have the right to say Japanese is a joke language until you know all these words and more 玄人 防人 狩人 仲人 近衛

>>21341295
spoken like a true 代弁者

i even went and dug this image up from the depths of hell for u

If I learn Japanese, will my loli tulpa speak it as well?

>>21341226
None. You've already read 3 textbooks too many.

You will not be anywhere near intermediate after finishing 'An Integrated Approach To Intermediate Japanese', by the way.

https://streamable.com/a36i1

lol

fuck off

>>21341420
Why the fuck did he choose Kyushu of all places to live?

fuck on

>>21341434
idk my impression is shits pretty fuckin chill (besides outdoor temperature lol) once u get off of honshu

>>21341434
he likes it subtropical

>>21341258
Pretty fucking expensive. The average range translators charge for Japanese is about $0.05-0.20 per word. Most novels and visual novels have at least 100k words (many times even more than a million words). That means if you want to get something like that translated, it'd cost no less than $5,000 just for a 200 pg novel, and more than $100,000 if you're talking about a really long VN like Subahibi or Rewrite.

Is " です " without " す " has the same meaning and can be use the same way?

the best thing about being a translator right now is knowing that ur work is future proof and third worlders cant just come in and start doing it for dirt cheap out from under u lmao

and as a bonus u get to come to threads like this and lol @ the fools dancing in the pit of sad clowns that just frankly arent made of the right stuff to ever ascend and u can just sell them ur translations after they concede and give up utterly defeated in trying to learn japanese (see post above this 1 lmao)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOLxZ5XHQqA#t=52

>>21341226
Just watch more anime and read VNs my dude.
Consult the Handbook of Japanese Grammar Patterns if necessary. Use rikaisama or yomichan if needed.
Textbook speak will only teach you to do textbook exercises.

>>21341475
no

>>21341270
You retard.
I keep telling people that they need to keep edging while reading eroge, because once you bust you won't continue.

>>21341482
ur fuckin weak if u quit after u finish

>>21341482
just take a nap after u buss and wake up rejuvenated

>>21341451
>That means if you want to get something like that translated, it'd cost no less than $5,000 just for a 200 pg novel, and more than $100,000 if you're talking about a really long VN like Subahibi or Rewrite.
That seems pretty unrealistic to me. If this was the actual pricing, nothing of VN length would ever get translated. I imagine translators work at reduced rates on large projects, same way that when a retailer buys huge amounts of shit in bulk they get get each individual unit way below RRP.

>>21341479
>future proof
AI-sama is going to make a fool out of you

>>21341509
:ok: looking forward to u posting this at me again in 5 years lol

>>21341509
lol thats like saying ai are going to put painters and novelists out of business. you may as well not even have a society at that point. good translation is primarily creative

>>21341509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_joeqKri0&list=PLs4Gp5VU4Fv9h7u5e_7ePpWZ28i2PWbxd

LOL

i cant wait for the influx of google translate vn readers shitpostin about how they didnt need to learn nihongo to experience the sick games they cant understand lol

>>21341519
mtl isnt actually new ppl actually have been doing it for a long time

in a time where it was even worse than it is now

>>21341509
The point in time when AI evolved that far, we're fucked anyway unless it's benevolent for some obscure reason.
But that's far away I'd say.

>>21341513
>>21341514
>>21341517
>>21341519
5 years is not the future, having a job for 5 years is not future proof
Translation is definitely one of the low hanging fruits that AI will solve in our life time
Maybe not even in 10 years, but you are stupid to count on a life long career as a translator

>>21341529
the joke about the 5 years thing is that this happens every 5 years and were still here

anyway as a freelancer u never consider 1 thing to be the only way ur gonna make money forever thats just retarded

>>21341529
you fundamentally misunderstand what translation is if you think it's something a computer can do it well except in cases like technical translation where only conveying the basic meaning matters

>>21341526
I don’t think AI capable of translation is anywhere near sentient General AI that would fuck us up

>>21341525
yeah im just sayin as machine translation gets "better" its gonna continue to be increasingly popular to fuckin destroy shit with it
>>21341529
its gonna have an effect in 10 or so years cuz why pay humans for good work if u dont know how much ur gettin owned payin for a computer to do it
but that doesnt kill the industry lol
if u think machine translation is more of a threat than that ur expectations are probably unrealistic

yah ive sorta not engaged with this issue either about what goes into translating a narrative text well but suffice it to say mtl isnt ever going to be smart enough to keep cross references and continuity between specific things in a text consistent and easily discernible in whatever shit it spits out

just never gonna happen

ive gotten bored and given up on dies irae before the last ending what should i play next

>>21341555
pic here >>21340627

>>21341563
where tf do i get PS1 games now that emuparadise is dead

>>21341587
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/game.html
click on ps

>>21341593
o nice i didnt notice the coc had a games section i already found it on some russian site tho lol

>>21341593
delete this before matt starts linking it in his yt vids

>>21341593
wtf how new is this? i don't like going to that garbage ass site so i never noticed it.

>>21341605
if he's too stupid to find it himself if he lurks here he's too stupid to click on a link

>>21341610
came around .. a month or two ago I think.

yea i mean theres a billion places to get the entire library for a console all bundled up so whatever

>>21339341
its the one with the subdomain may and i already told you this

will i know nihongo if i beat all ~4000 playstation games on there

i mean prolly unless u do retarded shit like ignore text

i play for the gameplay aspect only

i mean thats a good way to go about it but like if u dont read when the game tells u how to do something and u just press buttons till u figure it out thats really bad

basically dont do that lest u become like geroge trombone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

imagine being a dude who bought this dudes book and seeing that clip lmfao

>>21341645
it really bugs me that his japanese level is so shit he cant even see all of this text at once after like 60 years of learning

>>21341645
>>21341652
he's just not familiar with games you retards. has nothing to do with general illiteracy.

>>21341660
he literally can't comprehend the sentence
do you really think he wouldn't have understood this if it was written in english?

what are good games for ppsspp that can be texthooked

>>21341660
so the fact that he says "im expecting to see something here" which is literally right in front of his nose doesnt u tell u anything about his literacy lol?

How do I REALLY use Anki?

>>21341689
use anki with basic and reversed cards to remember, not learn.

>>21341689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCbvltWwR3c#t=68

>>21341689
mine your own shit

vocab: word in kanji on front, reading and meaning on the back
sentences: sentence on front, sentence with furigana and possibly meaning of certain word on the back

everything else is a waste of time
keep it under 15 minutes a day

imagine spending dozens hundreds thousands of hours on flashcards and then when u die u have to explain why to jesus lol

and then as u try u look like this and jesus just bursts out lmaoing

https://streamable.com/5pns2

do nips say 重い to say they're full?

>>21341660
He does have general illiteracy because he's admits he only knows 1000 kanji. That video had furigana and he could barely make it out.

what's the best JP exclusive vidya that's not a VN

>>21341736
mother 3

>>21341736
persona 2 罪 hitler edition

>>21341660
not bein able to parse the fuckin sentence has nothin to do with not bein able to figure out what 上画面でキャラを操作する means
if that was the only fuckin problem he woulda said somethin a lot different

reading overlord while listening to dungeon synth is the coziest thing ever

>>21341660
congrats on suiciding urself trying to protect george samas honour lmao

unfortunately now its time to protect ur own honour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSQEUZ6FYBc#t=7

lol you nerds are so ez to bait when it comes to george :)

>>21341755
do you know where to find the raws after volume one? the library only has the first one

>>21341736

>>21341761
more like momokiri

>>21341736
https://megami.starcreator.com/nanaca-crash/

>>21341763
You can get scans on Nyaa, I think.

As for ebook versions, the library maintainer uploaded volumes 2-6 shortly before disappearing but never added them to the library for some reason:
>>18736322
>>18736534
(one of you discord using zoomers ought to let itazuraneko guy know about these so he can put them in the library)

I wish I knew where to find ebook versions of volumes 7 and onwards, but unfortunately I don't.

>>21341794
I'll message him about those. I don't have a VPN and live in Germany so I'd rather not get my ass whooped so I'll put these on my reading list next. I'm occupied with something else rn so I'll look into it once I'm done with what I'm reading now
Thanks!

How long should you spend on anki when you're reading and mining?

why does の need so many meanings?

>>21341833
15 mins but no longer than 20

>>21341833
10 min
def dont pass 30

Is using chiitrans without mt cheating?

>>21341833
around 15 minutes

>>21341840
because this language is retarded and needs a million different words for the same words and grammar particles rather than just separating them individually

>>21341845
hooking text is fine
i dont know shit about that program but i saw furigana insertion dont use that shit or ur gonna be ichi toshi b kumi guy
look up the fuckin words so u know what reading makes sense

>>21341840
It's just an indicator for genitive case. English marks a distinction between my and mine, or your and yours, but other languages don't

>>21341858
Who?

uhm... I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask, but... I would really love if someone of you could check if this by-ear (romanized) literation of the following song is correct. The text can be found in the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2TlhwULjkQ

Japanese literation would be even better! I can go ask somewhere else, though I don't know where. とりあえず、ほんとありがとう。

stupid sexy wakasama

>>21341884

>>21341884
Oh didn't notice someone had already commented what they've heard.. thanks anyway

I'm back from the dead ready to jisho my way tru this geemu

>struggle to learn Japanese because I like it and also for the future
>I get offered a job in Japanese language
>Still get paid the standard Eastern European salary for literally a Japanese person's job

Still, I'm panicking like fuck because they expect me to reply to emails in Japanese. I'm like <700 kanji into RTK 1.
I only got exactly 1 week until I start. What do?

>>21341867
i'll you show you some genitals you dumb nerd

>>21341925
it's over dude
good luck

>>21341874
some youtube video of a guy playin a vn with a text hooker to show people the ropes
he didnt watch enough anime and just went with the first reading that popped up on mouseover

>>21341925
well that's dumb.

>>21340055
I learned English

>>21341925
>I'm like <700 kanji into RTK 1.
So you haven't started learning Japanese yet
That's gonna be rough

>>21341925
refuse you mongoloid

>>21341944
I finished Genki 1 and 2
Did some Anki 2/6k
Read Yotsubato and K-ON
That's about it. I'm fucked

>>21340055
Only Spanish, English, and Japanese, the trifecta of languages needed for a spic weeb like me.

DJT? More like DGT hahaha

bola de tontos

So what do I do now that I finished Hiragana and Katakana? read Tae Kim? Should I try that VN Core thing?

>>21341975
>read Tae Kim? Should I try that VN Core thing?
yeah

>>21341974
Eh hijo de puta callate antes de que Jamal te mate.

>>21341975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

>>21341975
Tae Kim and then download Axanael.

>>21341978
onions jamal jejeje : )

ay por dios

so_____y jamal jejeje : )

>>21341987
callate niño soja

muy caliente

bola de tontos

>>21341973
mina genki ?
>>21341985
daily tech support thread

>>21340055
i'm thinking of utilizing my language learning powerlevel to knock out one of the piss-easy languages like spanish

si estoy de acuerdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHIrqy_jZc

>>21342010
Axanael installer is the Winnie The Pooh Home Run Derby game of game installations

the sickest thing is after they painstakingly get the game to run they just quit cuz they dont know japanese and theyre already mentally tired and got the positive feedback from achieving a goal so their peabrain is happy lol

>>21341925
>>21341953
F

>>21342015
痴女

japan loves taking advantage of foreigners

u should read up on just how bad they do chinese and korean ppl lol

>>21342028
hey man thats not ok

>>21342025
I haven't given up, is just that I work fri-sun

>>21342045
well good dont quit fucker spend at least some time on it everyday till its done

>>21342033
japs see chinese and koreans as an inferior sub-species though

they wouldn't dare treat a blond-haired, blue-eyed, 6+ foot westerner like that

>>21342098
not to his face at least :joy:

also i think theres some shit about real scumbag companies using third worlder labor even and bringing them over on boats lmao

the lmao really made that post

https://youtu.be/rwpX4qBleNo?t=109

>>21342028
sauceをいただいて下さい.

>>21340654
>geyline is not on my chart
No but I figured it'd be in that category. What would you put it in?
>inb4 a meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rARqZbqTPhg

>>21341736
Metal Max 2 ReLoaded on DS. God tier JRPG.

>>21342129
i wouldnt put it on my chart cuz i think its fucking gay.

>>21342124
sauceはヂーズ・ナッツ

>>21342136
I respect your opinion and I want to know where you'd rank the difficulty of the text in a hypothetical world where the story compelled you.

>>21342137
whats ur issue

>>21342144
ur completely misunderstanding the point of my chart

>>21342146
What’s yours baby

>>21341736
>>21341765
https://hadlerblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/27/%E6%89%89%E3%81%AE%E4%BC%9D%E8%AA%AC-tobira-no-densetsu/

>>21342144
Hey I actually did read some of leyline back when i was a total beginner and I'll say this: the text is easy. Out of all the stuff I read back then, it was the most comprehensible. Of course it was still hard to read and slow going as hell because I was a beginner, but at least I could make some sense of it. It really, genuinely is kind of boring with a really shitty setup for how the game works WRT routes, but if the only thing you want is to be able to understand something in Japanese, give it a try.
Just remember that if you're not finding it interesting enough to keep you going then you better stop reading and find something that'll captivate you better, don't end up like geyline-kun.

>>21342154
That I'm still a virgin

Fucking hell, these subs for GochiUsa are so shit.

The actual line here is:
>河に浮かべて流そうよ
If I can fucking hear this despite having done fuck all listening since I started learning Japanese, why the fuck can't whoever made these subs?

There are so many errors and I'm only half way through the season. The quality seems to get worse with every episode.

>>21342160
Yea I tried Leyline for a few weeks but wasn't enjoying it so I switched to something else. I was thinking of returning to it but I guess it's not for me.

>>21342161
why are you replying to yourself ?

>>21342160
ALSO basically I'd recommend skipping the two side girl routes and just going straight for the main heroine. Their shit doesn't contribute to the story at all, and the side routes have no choices or relevance to the plot whatsoever. Just really bad choices on the devs' part.

>>21342161
What do you need a backstabbing soulless 3d bitch for, quell your emotional needs with your waifu and your sexual ones with a big onahole

>>21342175
I'm broke I cant afford an onahole.

>>21342170
I think it's an okay game overall just really boring if you can't read it fast. I revisited it recently and plowed through the prologue in like an hour, and with that pace it wasn't so rough, but for a beginner it's harsh just because its got such a slow-ass start with virtually no hook at all.

lmao fuck ya'll for recommending me to do RTK.

>>21342190
nobody itt recommends that shid

>>21342190
don't fall for bad memes

>>21342190
What did you get out of it? What do you think you should've gotten out of it?

>>21342190
i've pointed out why it's a bad idea for 99.9% of beginners but beginners are too lazy to lurk these threads and instead wait for some jackass to respond with "visualizing kanji so well that you can write them when prompted by an english keyword is very important and efficient" without the beginner really understanding the effort involved and the actual payoff (actual payoff is almost worthless).

>>21342205
you're a beginner too

>>21342207
is that why I'm about to style on you?

>その言葉に目が在ると踏んだのだろう。
What does the 目が在ると踏んだ part mean? I'm kinda clueless.
Context: A guy is about to kill a girl, he already killed her comrades. She offers her body to him, but he's like: "I just killed your comrades" and this sentence is his reaction. Could anyone help me out with this?

>>21342205
that art guy that shitposted about the importance of writting every kanji was also hilarious.

writing kanji is fun!

>>21342215
this is the narrator saying "he probably thought those words would have some weight"

目がある can mean something has weight
なになにと踏む means 評価する

>>21342214
im waiting

>>21342262
Thanks!

>>21342267
gimme a sec vocaroo isn't loading

50 times

EACH KANJI

>>21342166
god damn they're soooooo bad

>>21342144
its prob easier than nanarin theres ur metric
countless nihongoers have stopped readin while playin it though so tread carefully

>>21342262
New concept: 4channel cards. Just a pic of the anons question on the front and a pic of the other anons answer on the back. Consider this mined, boys.

how about on the front of a card is a lowercase post and on back of the card is whether the post was by the real ntr or one of his fuckin posers

livin in a world of a bunch of mini mes

>>21342348
and then they get hungry and start cannibalizing each other. adorable.

why won't somebody download all the films + subs from Japan Netflix and upload it for our library?

>>21342335
What am I looking at

>>21342385
yogapants already did that and people made fun of him for posting it here

>>21342391
he did that for subs, not the actual films

What pokemon game should I play first DJT?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5zI53d7yhg

>>21342404
stop asking this and just play one already

>>21342385
99.9% of Japanese films made in the last 30 years are shit.

>>21342419
there are dubbed western films on netflix too

>>21342429
Are you really learning Japanese for the sake of watching shitty dubs of English movies?

>>21342404
what the fuck is ur problem play them in order

>>21340298
>same here my listening only improved when i actively just listened to raw anime without subs
>the subs are a massive crutch but noone likes to go from 90% comprehension to 20% because your brain cant process spoken language. i think once you get up to high listening comprehension you can turn the subs back on and it wont be as bad but as some point you're gonna have to focus on improving just your listening or you'll never get good at it imo
true shit

>>21342419
netflix JP has a lot of old films too tho. anyway 90s was still a good era for japanese cinema. takeshi kitano? shunji iwai? shinya tsukamoto?

>Not playing best game A.K.A USUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGluOfuFgI

>>21340431
>the first thing I understood fully was the watamote ED.
good shit bro, watamote rules

>>21341842
>>21341844
>>21341847
How many reviews and new cards do you have a day? How many mature cards are in your decks?

>>21338902
I miss bakaproof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ56XEBTFi8

>>21340298
just cuz theres english words on the screen doesnt mean ur still not able to get the same thing as from raw with just much more convenience if ur not a retard

>>21342175
Ok this is my waifu, guess I should buy an onahole now.

>>21342571
youre just wrong. unless ur just not even looking at the subs at all which is basically impossible if ur eyes are functioning and you dont have a 100 inch screen then your brain will automatically read the subs it can see and ruin your attempts to focus on listening

>>21342630
if ur gonna say im wrong the least u can do is not be a retard

>>21342638
idk i think maybe ur the retard if you can somehow not read text thats in front of u? my brain just automatically comprehends english im sorry

>>21342648
u dont have to focus on it dude u can focus on the sound and looking more at the middle of the screen when ppl talk lol

try looking at the characters face instead of the subs lmfao

and its still ok to see the subs anyway its not like ur trying to play some mental game of dont look at the subs theyre lava

just fuckin listen and take it easy and enjoy the comprehensibility that u wont find in a dictionary

>>21342660
completely pointless discussion since ur basically just saying "you need to actively listen and not look at the subs" lol. why not just turn them off then?

because u dont have to ?

why would u rely on ur shit tier nihongo ability when even average shitsubs are better than u

obviously listening to stuff in japanese will make you better at listening to stuff in japanese and to a certain extent you have to do so to be good at understanding what you hear but it's not like a completely separate skill lmao

btw the certain extent is 10000 hours w. eng subs ON

people cant even hear syllables being spoken like zengning its obviously a separate skill. it's definitely possible to be able to read well but have shitty listening ability if your brain has never had to deal with the spoken language

>>21342691
>people cant even hear syllables being spoken like zengning
based

if you seriously think that listening is a separate skill you don't know anywhere near enough japanese to be having this discussion sorry
https://vocaroo.com/?upload

why would u try to read before having extensive exposure to the language by both verbal and visual means

lmfao

>>21342700
not so fast dude listening is a skill like if ur tested for ~listening comprehension~ lol

here i guess the idea of "listening practice" is to just listen to incomprehensible input like a retard

its not about what you should or shouldn't do. it's clearly possible to be able to comprehend written japanese and fail to comprehend it when it's spoken.

even simple shit. your waifu could tell you "電気消して" and maybe you understand that instantly when reading it but they said it too quick and out of nowhere for ur brain to realise what was said.

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0xeBvCjuo5H

>>21342717
you can't listen to things you don't know the words or grammar
you can't read things where you don't know how anything is read out loud
reading and listening are directly interlinked so even though they have additional requirements (shape recognition and phonetic processing) they cannot be considered completely separate skills

>>21342691
u can solve the zenging problem with eng subbed anime probably worked for me lol
basic phonetics is a shit example

>>21342700
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0UI8bBAf3yV

>>21342729
>you can't listen to things you don't know the words or grammar

first of all dont ever @ me again u esl trash

second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug#t=200

destroyed again noob

>>21342732
yea but the thing is not everyone has listened to or will listen to 10k hours of anime before trying to learn japanese.

>>21342747
well thats on them dude let them flounder and die

>>21342746
i'm a native speaker of english
>video
you know those words that's the whole reason it's comprehension. he's defining them with gestures and drawings. did you ever think he was doing anything else?

>>21342757
and what do eng subs do in addition to the picture on the screen u see whilst watching teh animeh ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>21342759
i never said anything about english subs i'm just shitting on the beginner who's insisting that listening and reading are completely unrelated and trying really hard to defend the idea that you don't get better at one when you get at the other without actually explicitly saying such

btw b4 any1 says eng subs are trash yah they are but it all evens out over time and ull still be able to one day crawl out from ur primordial noob soup as it were

i suspect that day will be after some thousands of hours maybe even 10000

>>21342747
1k is prob fine
i thought u were the one goin on about shit that subs would take away ur ability to pick up

>>21342764
lol i never said they're completely unrelated all i said is you have to actually actively focus on improving your listening ability to improve. which is true unless you've spent 10,000 hours listening to anime before you even tried learning japanese and your brain already perfectly processes japanese at native speed. for normal people it doesn't matter how well you know the words and grammar if your brain isnt processing speech & the only way to improve that quickly is by just listening to shit

>>21342777
>but it's not like a completely separate skill lmao
>its obviously a separate skill
you have done this to yourself my friend

Relax and enjoy this beautiful song even if you're all dekinai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX_ViT4Ra7k

>>21342780
you're not even quoting the same people lol

>>21342764
oh its not all unrelated but listening comprehension in and of itself is a skill

of course u shouldnt be cutting it in2 different things like this is the shit i mean when i say not to "do grammar" or flashtard vocab or focus on "pitch accent" (more like bitch accent lol)

see the problem is ppl wanna chop the nihongo pie into a billion different pieces but hmm i actually just had a interesting 1 liner to describe how i feel about this so im gonna put it on its own line

~~~~language acquisition isnt logical~~~~

so if u intentionally gimp urself by putting different aspects of it in isolation and grinding them ur going to progress way slower than the dude who just exposed themself to comprehensible input all day everyday

studying can come after baseline proficiency is achieved and u can work in the language not before

>song
>dekinai
joke's on you, I spent 100k hours listening to japanese music and reading lyrics

>>21342785
no shit i'm not that's the whole fucking point dumbass i'm the one who posted the first quote
>>21342786
今北産業

>>21342787
i guess ur fucked u didnt go raw thats what the other guy said

>>21342791
something being "completely unrelated" and something being "a seperate skill" are not the same thing tho lol. or do you think that writing japanese isn't a seperate skill either because u have to "know japanese"? if the answer is yes ur retarded. it's a related but separate skill that you have to individually work on

>>21342795
i went raw tho
do you think people who listen to a lot of music don't read lyrics
that's like exactly the normal thing to do lol

>>21342799
dumb semantic differentiation that doesn't matter at all which is exactly why i wrote
>without actually explicitly saying such