/jp/ - Otaku Culture

lmfao what is this image

>>21315352
>thread half a day early
>dumb image

Why did you do this, anon?

Fate OP's are always faggots.

>>21316021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6huBpZJ1c

really dumb question but how do I save progress in Tsukihime plus disk ?

What is the general consensus on FGO?

>>21316364
It should be the same as Tsukihime from what I remember? You don't need to save at all anyway, all the stories there are very short and you should be able to do them all at once.

>>21316643
Everything about it is trash.

>>21316643
The consensus is DO NOT TALK ABOUT FGO

I found a "Type-Moon fan podcast"
https://soundcloud.com/the-magic-circuit

Their intro combines the great extra OST with the shitty FGO summoning sound...

>>21316643
My jpgs are greater than your jpgs plus FGO sucks.

>>21316643
'General consensus' understood as the generality of people who know what FGO is beyond an empty definition - obviously, the consensus is that it's a Fun and Enjoyable Game (which merits in various cases the input of actual money for the chance to obtain jpegs + audio clips), because there are far more people who think that than who think otherwise.

The consensus among people who actually, truly know what FGO is, is that it's otaku heroin and the people who profit off it ought to be beheaded on liveleak

>>21316643
People who want good TM characters in it are hateful scum.
It is a monkey's paw.

https://twitter.com/kinuhosizora21/status/1126502427740393473

>>21316681
I've listened to enough of it.
They are as you'd expect, plebs.

>>21316643
nobody fucking understands why the game got as popular as it is.

literally. they haven't had a new story chapter in over 6 months and it doesn't even impact the sales ranking.

>>21317215
In fact, I'll go nuts.
>rely on the wiki
>have not read turkeyhandle
>care about pronouns
>r/anime
>politically correct when it comes to lolis
>the worst type of oblivious weebs
I want to let go.

If you summoned EMIYA alter
how would he act towards you?
Could he bond with his master?
Could he be saved ?

>>21317975
I don't really care, he's a shitty pointless version of Emiya that didn't need to exist.

>>21317229
With how generic these people are you'd think they were factory made.

>>21317229
>have not read turkeyhandle

Why do FGO fans call Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime characters betas and prototypes of Fate characters?

>>21320456
KnK i can see it with designs like not-shirou and not-kirei but tsukihime ?

>>21320456
Most character archetypes in TM works begin with Mahoyo.

>>21316681
>1hours plus

>>21318016
This

How strong is reines as a magus
How would a magus go about banging her

Today is maid day in Japan, I think?
So hopefully we'll get KohaHisu art soon.

Hisui got to be in a hot doujin in 2019!
https://exhentai.org/g/1412558/a1e82dc3c1/

https://twitter.com/romromeris/status/1126853888563245056

>>21320491

Arcueid > Saber.
Akiha > Rin.
Kohaku > Sakura.
There's a couple minor ones I'm forgetting.

Nasu is physically unable to stop reusing character concepts.

>>21317229
TM wiki is fine though, the wiki pulls the information from materials and the source it's from

>>21316643
I've played FGO since launch and I don't understand why people still bother to play it nowadays. The gameplay gets boring fast and isn't fun anymore not to mention the game is unplayable without x2 speed with no auto battle, the story hasn't been good in months and the art is a mixed bag of decent to absolute garbage.

>>21326063
It could be much better.

>>21326141
Care to elaborate? It could be much better how? The TM wiki is as informative as is.

>>21317218
Maybe they're seeing how long they can stretch out the Lostbelt arc for, now that Nasu said he'd be leaving afterwards (I'll believe it when I see it).

>>21327167
>Lostbelt arc

Give me the run down on the Lostbelt arc. I don't play FGO.

>>21327206
Basically it only serves to farther cement that shitty mobage in the overall canon of needing to credit it.
It is just a whole lot of rehashing, but done worse.

>>21327206
Too lazy to make a quick run down and Sion summarized it pretty well so here you go (this is what happened from December 2017 Prologue to LB3 intro)
>31st December 2017. Chaldea was attacked and Chaldeas frozen.
>Together with seven lights that flew in from outer space, Kirschtaria Wodime made his declaration of victory.
>Kirschtaria was the pivot of Chaldea’s leyshift experiments and a Master of the elite A-Team, and he now called themselves [Crypters].
>Prior to the attack on Chaldea, the defrosting operation for the A-Team uncovered that all of its members had vanished without a trace.
>Of course, when he said [we are Crypters], he was referring to all members of the A-Team.
>In order to escape from the Oprichniki assailing Chaldea, you undertook an Imaginary Numbers Dive using the Shadow Border.
>Although you spent only around a week in Imaginary Numbers space, in normal space, three months had passed.
>Relying on the bond with the Oprichniki, the only one the Border had in normal space, you resurfaced.
>That was the Russian Lostbelt. A history of beasts and extreme cold, populated by the Yaga.
>Working hard to grasp the situation, you had a showdown with the Lostbelt King which ruled Russia: Ivan the Terrible.
>The Fantasy Tree Orochi, which had taken root in Russia, was successfully cut down. Although the matter regarding the [Fantasy Tree] is still being analysed…
>Hypotheses can be made to some extent, based off the numerical values measured from its internal gravitation field during the fight.
>The storm brought about by the tree vanished, and you managed to clearly intercept the transmission from the Wandering Sea.
>Thus, you headed straight for the North Sea.
>However, in your path a new Lostbelt stood.
>The Scandinavian Lostbelt. A history after twilight, which had managed to overcome some mistaken [end].
>When I saw in the records that the Paper Moon had been taken, I let out a weird cry unworthy of an Eltnam…
>Still, you managed to retrieve the Paper Moon safely. You fought the Lostbelt’s King, Scathach-Skadi…
>And successfully removed the Fantasy Stree Sombrero. A rapid advance indeed.
>Though battered, the Shadow Border managed to make its way to the North Sea, and finally the doors of the Wandering Sea opened.
[...]
>A Lostbelt is a history that has been cut away from human history, deemed to have “no meaning in continuing it”, and stopped in its tracks.
>Take the Russian Lostbelt, for example. It was a world that branched off from A.D. 1570, and aborted.
>The Lostbelts that have appeared on Earth right now seems to have continued from their branching until the year 2018.
>Whether these [branched off eras] mean that the older Lostbelts are stronger… that is not necessarily the case.
>The strength and danger of a Lostbelt is measured by how far it has deviated from [Panhuman History].
>[..]
>From these facts I have assigned each Lostbelt a rank, and would like to share with you my thoughts on the matter.
>I call this the [Lost Depth].
>The higher this value, the more that Lostbelt’s “Human Order” denies Panhuman History.
Sion's servant is a Phantom called Captain Nemo (true identity is currently unknown).
And then Chaldea encountered Chinese Lostbelt:
>Crypter: Akuta Hinako who is actually Consort Yu, an elemental that was created by Gaia in the inner sea of the planet
>LB King: Qin Shi Huang
>Fantasy Tree Mayall, Da Vinci confirms that there's a galaxy that exists within the Fantasy Tree
About "God of the Foreign Star" (probably Marisbilly) side
>3 apostles: Kirei/Rasputin, Ashiya Douman and TV Koyanskaya (TV stands for Tamamo Vitch). The apostle of the [God of the Foreign Star] should be nothing but neutral. They aren’t supposed to side with any particular Crypter according to Hinako.
>Priestess of God of the Foreign Star: heavily implied to be Olga/the void of Olga/whatever related to Olga. The instruments of the Shadow Border are unable to detect her presence, instead detecting simply [nothingness] where she stands. Holmes describes her as a void-like emptiness seeping out into the space around it.
About each Lostbelt + Crypter
>Russian Lostbelt (Lost Depth D): Kadoc, servant is Caster Anastasia (survives, he is currently in Atlantic Lostbelt and being protected by Kirei/Rasputin)
>Scandinavian Lostbelt (Lost Depth B+): Ophelia, servant is Saber Sigurd but got hijacked by Surtr (dead)
>Chinese Lostbelt (Lost Depth E): Hinako/Yu, servant is Saber Lan Ling Wang (decided to go to the ToH)
>Indian Lostbelt (Lost Depth A): Scandinavia Peperoncino, assigned servant is an Archer but that servant might turn out to be different like Hinako's case
>Atlantic Lostbelt (Lost Depth A+): Kirschtaria, has 3 servants and Lancer Caenis is one of them
>British/Camelot Lostbelt (Lost Depth. EX): Beryl, servant unknown
>South American Lostbelt (Lost Depth A++): Daybit, assigned servant is a Berserker

>>21325945
Arc and Saber aren't very comparable at all aside from being blonde. It's Illya that is heavily Arc derivative.

What order should I do the Tsukihime routes in?

>>21328611
Arc > Ciel > Akiha > Hisui > Kohaku.

>BL guy moves on to volume 3 translation instead of the GO trash event

Fucking based. We're gonna get there, anons.

I prefer this approach.

>>21329105
Sharper lines as apposed to softer lines?

>>21327206
chiming in because the other anons post is long as fuck.

an ayy lmao god, which is very likely not actually an alien at all invades the earth, personally stabs everyone it can to death with it's branches, and turns the surface into a white wasteland of nothingness. then it somehow pulls lostbelts (timelines that existed and got deleted by the universe for not being nasu approved) out of it's ass and forces them into reality while assinging a crypter (mashu's old teammates) to each one. originally it only wanted kirsch and the greek lostbelt, but he decided to take the others along.

honestly, very fucking little of actual plot advancement has actually occured. they're doing the exact same shit they did back in part 1 where the first 4 "singularites" are just filler in which they drop slight hints and the real plot doesn't start until the 5th one.

>>21329113
Yes, also the more Melty era colouring.
Generally speaking I do think there are some artists who should go without the enhanced textures, shading and effects and focus on linework and crisp colouring..

>>21329088
We'll have the event translated sooner or later anyway. I'm a FGO fag, but I'm glad he's translating volumes 3+

Miyakozilla

>>21329974
why do people want an event translated that literally has no story until the final node

>>21330313
"muh story"

F/GO has a shit story, it's just an excuse for retards to enjoy it without getting flamed.

Bros...
Why can't we have kino again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zldORaRtdMw

>>21326187
english bad

>>21326187
the english TM wiki is full of horrible translations caused both by editors who have no idea what they're doing and an fanbase that sticks to already established terms even though they've been wrong for better parts of a decade

>>21316643
Easily the worst gacha game, gameplay-wise at least.

>>21332353
I wish it had a throwaway, non-canon story.
Games like that are far easier to handle, as you do not need to see what you love turned into a hot mess.

>>21332353
there were several that had worse gameplay, they just all shut down already.

what makes FGO gameplay so cancer is the fact that the development team refuses to add any features like auto-battle and NP skip. there's zero fucking reason for the game to require so much of the players attention and input when 95% of the "content" is grinding battles that are near impossible to lose.

>>21332799
but bro NPs are a iconic thing in the franchise don't you want to watch arash explode himself for the 400th time this week

>>21326187
No one has mentioned that it's hosted on Wikia which is one of the shittiest platforms on the planet

Why is DDD volume 2 the only one in the OP? Why is it typeset in white on a black background?

>>21332799
The NP skip thing, the devs of DW said that it would be too hard to code.

>>21334286
Yeah, and Nasu also said NP skip in FGO is a no-no according to his interview last year. But he wants auto-battle for daily quests.

>>21334286
This is bullshit. No NP skip is fully Nasu's decision.

Post your next idea for new series in Nasuverse

>>21334864
Church guys hunting Dead Apostles in the Tsukihime world needs to happen already.
Fuyuki Grail dismantling also should've happened, but they'll probably get around to that eventually.
Anything that doesn't involve more Servants than human characters is probably a better idea than what they're doing now.

>>21334864
A story of an young man being held in a Psychiatric Asylum for all of his life on Scandinavian Mountains, Norway.

Later it is revealed that the Asylum is a prison to isolate Magus and or normal people with Magecraft potential that will get Sealing Designation in the future. Another purpose of the Asylum is to implant a mental Rune spell in the depths of minds of the prisoners to weed out "radical ideas" and make them "subservient", thus preventing them become Designated Magus. The Asylum itself belongs to the Wandering Sea Organization, whom rather keep these prisoners to themselves than hand them over to the Clock Tower.

MC was imprisoned due to his "designation" of being a Designer Baby created by another Designated Magus to solely inherit the First Magic. The real current heir of First Magic is also being held in the deepest underground level of the Asylum. He/she is dying and unable to use his/her Magic at full potential. The Wandering Sea Magus is trying to find a way to keep him/her alive so they can learn the true nature of The First Magic itself.

Eventually MC end up in situation where he encounter the dying Magician and accidentally inherit the First Magic, which result the death of the First Magician himself/herself. With it, the MC shut every Bounded Field in the Asylum and manage to escape. His real adventure start as a Philosopher-level Designated Magus.

The story will be told in the same aesthetic and style as Legion TV series

>>21334474
the way he talked about auto-battle is less of a "yeah I really want this" and more of a "I guess i can see why you'd want this, let me look into it."

if you couldn't tell yet, nasu has some fucked ideas about game design.

>>21335002
Sealing Designations are a joke for top tier combat magi, as proven by Aoko defeating the entire SD squadron for the heck of it.

>>21335121
Aren't Touko and Satsuki Kurogiri count as SD too?

>>21335187
Touko was and got off peacefully and I cannot say much for the latter.

>>21335194
Touko's SD was put on hold by the time of Case Files and IIRC she still had it in Clock Tower 2015 but FSN and Tsuki/Mahoyo are two different timelines so...

>>21335222
>FSN and mahoyo are two different timelines so
are they really though? last I checked we don't know when exactly the timeline splits and how it affects things, we just know they're different because of how the world works, but mahoyo never does anything like mention shit that wouldn't be a thing in F/SN too.

>>21335376
I mean Holy Grail War isn't a thing in Tsuki/Mahoyo timeline so maybe Kayneth didn't need a new arm by Touko, but Waver still becomes Lord El-Melloi II as mentioned in CT205 anyway. Here is what Touko said in Case Files vol 2:
>"Ah, not you. I had some dealings with your predecessor. Long ago, I made a prosthetic arm for him, you see."
>[...]
>"Ah, no, please don't misunderstand. I didn't participate in the War directly at all. As he mentioned before, this is the first time I've met the current El-Melloi head face to face. Though I did have him pay for the work."

timeline shit is fake and ghey. there used to be such a concept as the "seperate work" but no, apparently everything must coalesce like MCU mustn't it

>>21335508
The function of the Nasuverse has been like this since Notes.
Since every work shares the same general foundation, it is within the same fictional setting.

>>21335514
It's an illusion. There is no such thing as a 'shared setting' rigorously conceived. UNIVERSES are made up by advertisers to sell you stuff.

i just wondering if
>/tmg/ hates /fgog/
>/fgog/ hates reddit
does it means /tmg/ ls okay with reddit?

>>21335579
Fuck off reddit

>>21335579
This concept has been around for a very long time, yes it obviously helps sell new works due to those devoted to a setting, but that is what people want.
Also calm down with the /x/pol/.

>>21335841
My bad >>21335552

>>21335579
No? Reddit being shit is something widely accepted at this point, it's not something unique to that /fgog/ shithole.

>>21335874
He was going for the meme of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

>>21335937
Wish more DAAs had designs, and I wish Primate Murder had a "real" design. But this is nice.

>>21335937
>>21335979
>alcatraz is just a phone
heh

>>21336020
Why wouldn't he be? Almost every time he is mentioned it he is talking through a phone.

>>21336064
I know, it's just funny how his only appearances are over the phone

>>21333210
please respond

>>21336569
All the DDD TLs are shitty and translated from Russian so it doesn't really matter.

>>21336581
Damn.

>>21336600
>>21336581
Are the Fire Girl or Tsuki No Sango LNs better translated or should I try reading an actual book?

>>21336712
I read Tsuki no Sango translated and it was fine.
Never touched Fire Girl.

>>21336758
Thanks

>>21317229
How the fuck did you stand listening to this?

What these guys are doing looks pretty neat, I think I saw this posted here but I can't recall when.

>>21325945
Saber=Arc+Hisui
Rin=Akiha+Ciel
Sakura=Satsuki+Kohaku

Going back through the archive to the threads from before /fgog/ became a shithole filled with retards who eat that kusoge up.
Why couldn't that shit just have flopped like it deserved (and still deserves)?
Why don't FGO's faggot fans realize that TM would be better off doing literally anything else, and put a lot more effort into it too?
The more time passes, the less chance TM will ever be remotely good again, as it was when they released Mahoyo.

>>21325945
>Nasu is physically unable to stop reusing character concepts.
Alice is the big exception to that rule.

>>21337551
Gotta get that picture of some random ass character with no back story or purpose. I fucking hate gacha games so much, it is beyond me how gambling for something essentially worthless gets so far.

>>21337551
TM died back in 2004 after the fanbase of the time hated on HF while praising fucking Fate, since Nasu was traumatized into never doing anything but pandering to the lowest common denominator afterwards. F/HA was just a thinly veiled desperate plea for otaku to get a life and stop obsessing over the Fateverse after finishing it, and we know how that went.

>>21337611
Mahoyo was quite literally the opposite of pandering to the lowest common denominator, Nasu very obviously saw it as a work of art that he did for himself rather than for sales.
I would kind of agree that he started seeing Fate specifically as nothing but pandering trash though. Which is why he just took that to its logical conclusion in FGO, after playing around with "shameless pandering" a bit in Extra.
That's still not an excuse though, considering no one gives a shit wether Nasu is actually writing for FGO, he could pursue his own interesting non-Fate projects, while letting other people milk dumb Fatefags who just want more Servants shoved down their throat.

Imagine liking aoko lmao

>>21337580
Not really, but there is a lack of kuuderes I guess.
He was onto a winner with Aoko, which is why he he stuck with that.

>>21337806
I don't need to imagine.

>>21337551
>Why don't FGO's faggot fans realize that TM would be better off doing literally anything else, and put a lot more effort into it too?
Not that FGO players also know and give a care about non-Fate works in TM, anon.

>>21339677
The excuse is always gonna be "well it's not like the people working in FGO would be working in Tsukihime instead" but it's quite clear at this point that the remake has a really low priority compared to anything FGO.

>>21339686
>it's quite clear at this point that the remake has a really low priority compared to anything FGO.
I mean, it's really really clear. Not just FGO but also Extella too.
To be honest i wonder what Typemoon did with the progress of TsukiRe back in 2008-2013 more (2013 is when they started working on FGO). Probably Nasu just wanted to write Extra/CCC and their lack of budget, something like that.

>>21339686
Or it's quite clear nasu just don't give a fuck about it anymore. Even before FGO was a thing, the remake was dead and didn't advance.

>>21339713
>got officially announced with the redesigns in 2013, after they were done with Mahoyo and Extra CCC
>next big news was 2 years later, in 2015
>in that same year, GO starts and Remake dies down completely

Yeah no, eat shit you apologetic faggot, FGO was very obviously a major cause for the Remake being put on hold due to its success despite their incredibly low effort in 2016, this much is clear to anyone with a sane mind.

>>21337732
>Nasu very obviously saw it as a work of art that he did for himself rather than for sales.
guess that's why he dropped he and hasn't acknowledged it in years lol

>>21339750
Not that anon, but Typemoon Ace 12 was released on Aug 30th 2017 though.
Also to be fair Tsukihime Remake was announced for the first time back in 2008.

>>21339784
That isn't why it has been ignored.

>>21339785
That wasn't news though anon, that was just confirmation that it still exists. I'm talking about progress being made.
And after 2008 it was likely put on hold for Mahoyo (which was at least a fantastic project), like it's now been put on hold for GO trash (a cancerous project).

>>21339784
FGO is far more profitable with far less effort due to appealing to ironic weebs and Fatefags. Nasu is inherently lazy. No surprise that he dropped something he really liked because he found an easier, shittier path, but of course we should hope he still finishes it at some point (Koyama wants to).

>>21339808
Actually there's another page about it but i can't speak JP so dunno. TM Ace 11 (2016) has more informations about Tsukihime Remake anyway.
Hopefully we could get a new TM Ace this year.

>>21339833
People translated it back when it come out iirc, it's just saying that it would be a traditional VN in the style of Mahoyo and FHA and has been in the works for years. Stuff like voices and h-scenes are still undecided. There have been no real news since 2015, but yeah, of course I also hope we get more.

>>21339750
You're delusional. Mahoyo flopping clearly explain why Nasu stopped giving a shit. Then he started "working" on Fate again.

>>21339873
>Stuff like voices and h-scenes are still undecided.
Mohoyo wasn't enough? They gain billion and they can't afford VA?

>>21339889
>Mahoyo flopping
Where's your evidence of that? It sold what he probably expected, I doubt anyone thought it would be a big hit.

>>21339892
>expecting FGO money to go into anything good, ever
lol no

>>21339873
>Stuff like voices and h-scenes are still undecided
Nasu please i want voices...

>>21339889
Literally refer to >>21337732
It only can be considered a flop when compared to other TM works, which all have heavier pandering and if we talk about VN's exclusively were more popular in the past.
You can only compare Mahoyo to similar titles released in the same period, in which it did perfectly fine.
Nasu alluded to him not expecting huge sales and he even explained why.
That did not bother him, nor did the choice to not use voices for personal reasons.

>>21339892
They have been able to afford VA since RN, of course they can.

>>21337551
Because new tm works will never be translated. At least they are translating Grand Order, so I prefer to spend money on that game

>>21342074
Fucking pathetic.

>>21342081
I'm glad my wallet is worth much more all the people that complain the whole day

>>21342116
If there was anything I could invest in that allowed me to show TM that I want more than regurgitated Fate trash made with the lowest possible effort for the widest audience possible, you bet your ass I'd spend money on that. Unfortunately they literally aren't doing anything besides that, so the only thing we can do is not support literal trash.

>>21335222
>>21335376
>>21335475
To be fair, something like Mahoyo happened in FSN anyway. Touko lost her familiar in a fight with her sister and all of that.

Face it. You guys are the secondaries now. Nasu has abandoned you and you'll always be second best to him now. He doesn't make content for you anymore and he never will again. If you guys still want to call yourselves TM fans, then get on the board with FGO. That's where the love is these days. Otherwise you might as well drop TM altogether instead of longing after a past which has long since expired.

>>21342227
That's not what ''secondaries'' means you retard.

>>21342227
Get new bait material, that shit's old and stale.
I understand that you're bored with your kusoge being dead for months, but that's no excuse to put this little effort into things. You're slacking almost as much as Nasu himself.

>>21342237
How is it bait if it's true?
I understand that you're bored with your kusoge being dead for well over a decade, but that's no excuse to put this little effort into things.

>>21342241
Cope, /fgog/nigger.

>>21342241
the arthurian legends are a thousand years old and yet they're not dead because people still care about them

media, in general, doesn't die

>>21342074
And what will that bring you in the end?

>>21342227
>love

>>21342241
Go back to /alter/ you sperg.

>>21342374
lmao what a mentally ill faggot
>the last 3 singularities
>post is from 2018
This fucking NA secondary thinks his opinion is worth a shit when he's praising trash like Babylonia and Solomon. Even Camelot is just barely decent, not even in the same realm as any of Nasu's core works.

Thanks for posting that anon, I needed a laugh.

>>21342237
>>21342368
>>21342392
Cope harder.

>>21342374
Holy shit

>>21342374
This is excellent bait.

/jp/ is a very well maintained board, that I will admit.

>>21342688
It is able to stay away from the corruption of other boards

>>21342655
Actually it's the truth.

>>21341906
Why is SHIKI so well liked by the japanese?

>>21343453
Cool design and easy to sympathize with?

>>21343371
Cope.

>>21342227
>Nasu has abandoned you and you'll always be second best to him now.
>He doesn't make content for you anymore and he never will again.

You're acting like /tmg/ has been dumped in favor of /fgog/, but the truth is he's never heard of either general. And why would he?
Western fans have never and will never matter to Nasu. The only time Type Moon works get translations is when a third party takes the initiative.

>"You're the secondaries now"
>"FGO is the new hotness"
>"Nasu doesn't make content for you anymore"

It's curious, isn't it? How your expectations of a 'proper' relationship of a creator to his fans have been so utterly twisted by FGO. If there isn't a constant flow of more, more, more, MORE servants, MORE anime tiddy, MORE pointless 'lore', MORE CONTENT MORE DADDY MORE - if there isn't a content mill, churning out a constant stream of stimuli, that's the same as the creator not even existing. Has it occurred to you how bizarre that is? Back in the days when Nasu made only LNs and VNs, this attitude would have been incomprehensible. Something like Tsukihime, or KnK - these were productive, these were works you could still find things to read in and talk about, things to create derived from them, for years and years after their initial publication. This used to be normal. This used to be what TM 'fandom' used to be all about. But now FGO has produced this race of jpeg-hoarding, gacha-rolling mutants with crippled attention span and no real capacity for gaining anything from a work beyond the superficial, the Funny Moments, the Cri Every Tim, the Crowning Moments of Badass, whatever. And the story, such as it is, of FGO is certainly geared towards these people because that is what is easy to produce on an industrial scale, in accordance with the needs of an industrial process (which mobage production unquestionably is). So you are certainly correct to say that TM only produces, present tense, stuff for FGO faggots any more; it is precisely because FGO faggots can only conceive things in terms of production, present tense, constant unceasing PRODUCTION, that they think the lack of this is somehow a problem for everyone else. If FGO had any value whatsoever, the fact that it's been months since the last Lostbelt wouldn't be a problem in the slightest. Yet I go over to /fgog/ and what do I see? Non-stop bitching about it. Because you're consumers, nothing more. All you want is your fix.

Just heard about this shit, what the fuck did they do to my mongolian princess? Is this real? Someone redpill me on this, I don't play GO.

>>21344799
>what the fuck did they do to my mongolian princess?
Servant Astrea.
>Is this real?
Yes.
>Someone redpill me on this, I don't play GO.
You don't want to know.

>>21344821
I do want to know. I have to know. What shitty excuse did they use for her becoming a heroic spirit? And why did they get a $20 deviantart commision for her art when they have the budget of a small country? I can't make any sense out of any of this.

>>21344869
In GO servants can be summoned into the bodies of regular people for some reason. It's entirely a contrivance for them to continue to release JPEGs into that gacha that look like popular characters.

>>21344869
>$20 deviantart commision
The artist is making far more than that.

>>21344869
They literally made up a skill to justify it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grrwKp5d0HQ&feature=youtu.be
It's still happening, next demo out after some bug fixes.
It has been nearly 3 years since conception, but delays are the fate of a TMfag.

>>21345487
Here are some explanations:

1. 敵側の状態異常バーのビジュアル
2. リーダースキルが変わらない
3. 雨差分マップがロードしない
4. 礼装スキルが出ない
5. 会話ウインドウが消えない
残りのバグの修復が完成したらFEODのCH2体験版を配信したいと思います。何卒よろしくお願いいたします。

And the ludicrous:

セーブ＆ロード、そしてロードした後の内部のフラグ管理システムにも結構謎なバグが残っていますが、担当さんが交通事故に遭ってしまって軽傷を負ったため、今回は諦めようと思います……ゲームシステムや細かい部分のビジュアルにはまだまだ調整が必要なのでファイナルバージョンではありません。

the PDF version of El-Melloi Times vol 1 is now available for free at https://anime.elmelloi.com

>>21345610
^El-Melloi II

https://twitter.com/Standby898/status/1127609436623855623

>>21344869
In her artist's defense there was apparently an error with the aspect ratio and they drew a random Luvia on their fucking Twitter that looked way better.

>>21345610
>waver is so ahead of his peers he realizes the death of mystery via social media and started a website for himself

>>21345610
if i only could read

>>21342359
Since when do you need a GAME to bring you something? You play because you have nothing better to do. It's called "entertainment".

>>21346079
I guess, if that is what you consider "entertainment", so be it.

>>21344799
Your mongolian princess is now a horse.
It's pretty fitting, don't you think.

Cute loli Canaan

>>21344093
Not you personally, but merely what you represent. TMG represents the old fanbase: obsessed with a dead medium, constantly chasing after the shadow of something long gone, and unable to move on. What's really crazy to me is that you people believe Nasu's old works are particularly amazing at all. They are ok at best. Frankly there are so many more amazing designs and colorful characters in FGO than any of his old works.
>>21344255
This attitude is exactly why old TM died. You were content with waiting for years for scraps. You still are. The FGO fanbase demands more and it keeps the series healthy.

>>21346912
You call this 'healthy'? You're fuckin brain damaged my dude

>>21346912
How the fuck is anything about modern Fate remotely "healthy"?
Fucking kill yourself. You don't demand shit. All you require is quantity over quality, you're perfectly content with the shit on a platter they've been serving you for 4 years, so long as it comes in regular intervals. People used to put some degree of faith in TM, and be willing to wait years for new shit, because a Nasu work was almost always high quality content, something that he actually put real effort and passion into, not a mish-mash of 5 writers and 50 artists scampering to put out as much Servant shit to a secondary audience as they possibly can.

>>21346936
>People used to put some degree of faith in TM, and be willing to wait years for new shit
It's sad to see this paradigm is long gone. 6 months since the last story chapter and everyone is losing their shit. Everyone in this new age demand content at such a rapid pace that mobile games became the only viable medium to do it. Having 2 or 3 years wait time between visual novels would be unthinkable in 2019.

>>21347004
That's just the kind of audience that trash like FGO attracts, and it's the pace that the devs have gotten them accostumed too. Gacha games are not fit to be VNs or to tell a good story, yet Nasu is still trying hard to strike a balance between these 2 mediums, and failing hard at it (leaving both sides of fans dissatisfied).

>>21346912
>TMG represents the old fanbase: obsessed with a dead medium, constantly chasing after the shadow of something long gone, and unable to move on.
Wow, it's almost like people can like things and not like things

>>21347004
that's because there's only 3 good fgo chapters, so the expectation is that LB4 will be more filler trash. they also have multiple writers exactly to avoid shit like this and yet it still happens. The conspiracy that they're dragging out the release on purpose to delay part 2 ending is fucking real.

I finished Nasu's Canaan chapter in 428 Shibuya Scramble.

It was fun to see him tackle real life historical geo-political shit as a core part of the plot- something I'd never seen him do.
The art in this story is all 2008 Melty Blood era Takeuchi - in other words, peak Takeuchi, so big ups for that.

It's incredible how this one chapter has so much more inner monologue, raw exposition, and infodumping than the entire rest of the game combined, this is definitely Nasu's style. Even more shocking that the man who wrote this thought his style would be a good match for dialogue-heavy gachashit in any way.

>>21345610
Vol1's basic terms for learning sorcery has 8 terms:
>Mage
>Magic Circuits
>Magical Energy
>Mystic Code
>the Root
>Holy Grail War
>Mage's Association
>Clock Tower
Both this and the interview with Sanda don't have anything new. Also i don't know if it has been mentioned before, but Sanda says Gray and Melvin are the first two characters he created for Case Files anyway.

Details about vol 2 will be revealed later btw.

>>21347734
>Gray and Melvin are the first two characters he created for Case Files
Interesting but not that surprising, considering Reines and Waver already existed.

>>21346912
>Frankly there are so many more amazing designs and colorful characters in FGO than any of his old works.
No.

Friendly reminder that this happened.

>>21346931
How so? I'm not the one in a dead general constantly crying about how some mushroom in the East doesn't write edgy crap anymore. Tsukihime and even parts of the original Fate are completely cringeworthy. Deviantart writers would blush at how awful they are.
>>21346936
Most of FGO is far better than the majority of Nasu's output. The funny thing is is that I guess other people do a better job with his universe than he does. The art for FGO barring a few examples is pretty stellar too. Old TM stuff has awful art and even you nostalgiafags can't deny this.
>>21347004
Wow, it's almost like we have lives and can't spend more than a decade waiting for some shit to come out.
>>21347135
If you enjoy old TM stuff. Great. Good for you. But don't act like you're better than anyone because you're not. The world left you behind.
>>21348055
Yes. There is exactly one good design in Stay night and it's Altria.

>>21351107
Not only the story consists entirely out of dialogues, the so called Main Character doesn't say or think anything. It's dumb and an example of shitty writing.

>>21351107
Far be it from me to contest someone making chuuni speeches about how 'the world left you behind' on the topic of what's cringe - your experience far exceeds my own

>>21337546
Meh there is a bit more than that ciel internal problem and her desire to kill her self is something that saber have too.

Akiha and her own selfishness toward shiki is something that Sakura have in common too as showed in HF.

>>21351107
lmao you actually call her altria

>>21351074

>>21351805
He deserved better...

>>21351315
Are they waiting for Luviagelita and Rin to show up/get reprimanded?

>>21351823
Nah, that's supposed to be at Dai Teito, a restaurant in Misaki where they had the top spots for eating most (according to Kagetsu Tohya).

>>21351107
>The art for FGO barring a few examples is pretty stellar
>barring a few examples
>few examples
The art in FGO is garbage, there are only 6 legitimately good artists working on it barring the background and certain CG artists. In fact the mixed bag of clashing artstyles is a shit idea and you get garbage like Nightingale who have better art in CEs and Astrea to be recent. The artstyle should have been consistent. Speaking shit art, do we need to bring up that horrid drawing of Saber at FGOfes last year made by a so called "professional" artist that the officials were proud to display? Sonic OCs looked better than that.

>>21315352
FGO killed Fate.

>>21351932
Most of us here agree on that, anon.

>>21351870
Not that anon, and not really relevant but
>horrid drawing of Saber at FGOfes last year made by a so called "professional" artist that the officials were proud to display?
Actually it was drawn by Yoshitaka Amano, so i do understand why they wanted to show it.
Also since you know about that artwork, i think you should also see this.
btw i just realized that most of my favorite FGO illustrators have been working with Typemoon long ago...

>>21351107
Why are you even here? There's generals on /vg/, discord servers, subreddits, and threads on /a/ all meant for the purpose of discussing FGO and modern Type Moon.
Do you think people here just aren't aware of current Fate? We are, we simply don't like it. You aren't going to convince us otherwise, so you're either trolling or you genuinely think you'll get us to change our minds (we won't). We like old Type Moon and if you don't then you can just ignore it.
Any further discussion is the equivalent of trying to convince someone they should change their favorite sports team.

dude fgos writing is so good, I live how every single new event is explained away with a single sentence mentioning Grail fragments.

>>21352196
pretty much every event which happens in a singularity

>>21317229
>>21316681
Tried https://soundcloud.com/the-magic-circuit/005-definitive-objective-best-girl-rankings-aka-the-valentines-tier-list and you weren't kidding. LOL @ the "loli ban", the disclaimer about splitting the characters into girls and boys and the total domination of FGO.
>And then there are characters like D'eon and Mordred who are subject to, like, discourse... Like, gender discourse. Ahhh... I don't think I've said it on the podcast yet, but, like, I'm trans. I feel qualified enough to, like, say this and make this call.
Quoting 7:00-7:30.

>>21352529
Yikes

>>21352529
Wew lad

>>21352529
An average FGO nigger.

>>21352529
>>And then there are characters like D'eon and Mordred who are subject to, like, discourse... Like, gender discourse. Ahhh... I don't think I've said it on the podcast yet, but, like, I'm trans. I feel qualified enough to, like, say this and make this call.
Blergh

>>21352529
God I hate these ''people''

>>21352529
I don't mind that people want to be trannies or anything, but why do they have to moral police everyone else? I really hate the condescending, smug, holier-than-thou attitudes,

>>21351107
>Altria
Philip Morris America called, they want their waifu back.

>>21351107
The art in GO might be better on average than some old works, but the designs are not even close.
>Yes. There is exactly one good design in Stay night and it's Altria.
Her casual home outfit is the best design in Stay Night.
It is the only one in SN that I consider top tier for TM overall, but regardless most SN designs still beat GO's on average.

>>21351932
It killed TM.
Fate can fucking die now.

>>21351870
Nightingale's design is unironically one of the best, too bad the art is garbage.
Just a little work and she is quite good.

>>21353671
I seethe every single time I look at my Nightingale, I rolled her fucking twice.

>>21352529
>and the total domination of FGO
It was specifically FGO only.
They were reading verbatim from Cirnopedia.

>>21336807
I managed to find all I needed by skipping any times they would waffle on about GOshit.
A personal trigger for me is how they pronounced certain words in Japanese out of context with everything else in English.
It is a pet peeve.

>>21351107
>Yes. There is exactly one good design in Stay night and it's Altria.
>Altria

>>21354703
No, they compared the characters personalities in different games.

>>21355355
Well that is for those who were reused.
So now I understand the context.

Case Files boys

>>21356680
Oh yeah, today is the day the final volume comes out in Japan.
Hope we get juicy info soon.

CF 10 illustration

Nice cover too

No illustrations for this volume yet? Wish people put this stuff online faster...

Oh fuck nevermind, found more stuff already up on baidu.
Seems like no Zelretch or Lorelei or surprise guests even in this final volume though... maybe they're referenced in some way.

For this final case, it seems all the guest characters besides Wallachia came back - Luvia, Touko, and Olga. Really hope the translator gets to finish the series.

And that's all for now.

>>21357424
Yeah this arc is basically the one where everything comes together in a neat bow.

How does /tmg/ rank the Fate light novels?

>>21357529
I haven't read many of them now that I think about it, completely ignored Zero and Fragments novels so far.
Case Files and Strange Fake are both pretty good though, not amazing but they've been a saving grace in the last few years. CF > SF.

WAAAAAAH /TMG/BROS, /FGOG/ HAS BEEN MEAN TO MEEEEEE!!!

AAAAHHHHH HELP,/FGOG/ IS BTFO'ING US
AAAHHHHH

BROOOOOSS HELP ME AAAAHHH

*ahem*
FGO

WHY ARE YOU SO DEAD. HELP ME
HELP!
ME!

FUCK YOU GUYS ARE WORTHLESS.
HELP
THE KEEP BLOWING ME THE FUCK OUT.
TELL THEM TO STOOOOOOP

FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK
FUCK

BROS THEY KEEP DABBIN ON US

FUCK
I KEEP GETTING DABBED ON

AAARRRRGHH

BLAAAARRRGH

SNAAAAARRGHH

ZAARF

Hey, /tmg/. 50% of your whole population of 2 people started throwing a tantrum in /fgog/. Can you guys go over there, change his diaper and fuck back here with him? Thanks.

HEEEEEELP AAAAAHHH

FUCK FGOGGATS
HELP

RAAAAAHHHHHH HEEELPPPPPPPPPPPP

FATE/GRAND ORDER IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
/TMG/ IS GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE

H....help me
AAAAAHHH

Tell...tell them to STOP

AAAAAAHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

WAAAAAAAHHHHHH /TMG/BROS /FGOG/ IS RAPING USSSS HEEEEELLPPPP

HELP

OH NO THE PORNCHADS ARE HERE

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THIS DAB. THIS DAB. THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB THIS DAB

/alter/ here.
This is pathetic

Hey /tmg/.
Have sex.

HELP

Halp!

TELL THEM TO STOP

I DONT LIKE IT

B-bros? Taskute

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH
A
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHH MOMMY

I CANT STOP SEETHING
HELP ME TMGBROS

HELP BEFORE MEAN FGOG DAB ON ME AGAIN

AAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK FGOG!!!

The more I look at it the more I hate twintail Sion. I really hope it's not a permanent part of her character now.
Also thanks meido

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK AAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA

I
JUAT
WANT
THEM
TO
RESPECT
UUUUUSSSSSSSS
WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK FGOG FUCK FGOG FUCK FGOG FUCK FGOG FUCK FGOG FUCK FGOG

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GODDAMN THEM TO HELLLL
DAMN THEM TO HELL

THE FAGGOTS NEED TO DIE

THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US BROS

WE NEED TO MAKE ALTER AND FGOG RESPECT US

>>21315352
TMGBROS UNITE

OHNONONONONO BROS LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO OUR WAIFU

>>21347337
Is the anime any good?

>>21335121
aoko wields one of the true magic's anon, she's her own special brand of bullshit.

>>21357921
isnt she actually her twin sister? like, in tsukihime worlds sion survives and in fate worlds her sister survives.

>>21360056
Why of course, but that also means people like Lorelei should be able to make a joke of them.

>>21360125
maybe? pretty sure aoko could take lorelai as well, the ability to just say "fuck you didnt happen" to anything you do to her is kind of absurdly broken. I mean sure technically she's just throwing it into the future but as far as it concerns the fight the and there its the same as it not happening at all.

>>21360143
Aoko with Blue obliterates Lorelei.
Without is the more interesting battle.

>>21360182
sure but the original point being replied to had said that high level combat mages laughed off sealing designations and then gave aoko being able to do so as their example. to which my counterpoint is naturally that holy shit aoko does not fucking count, literally nothing but particularly powerful servants and the like can take her and win.

>>21360303
My point did only have one example, but there are a handful who still could.

>>21360403
name twon non-magic users other then lorelai who could just laugh off the enforcers. and remember bazett isnt even particularly special by their standards other then possessing fragarach, which she explicitly hasnt mastered the use of.

>>21360519
I would need to know more about the enforcers.

>>21360117
I thought she was just the same person? I honestly haven't looked too much into the FGO version yet so I'll have to check it out.

>>21359399
I liked it

>>21359399
It's a new story instead of adaption

>>21360117
It's Sion. The twin sister is in Extra only, other worlds is Sion. It doesn't matter if it's Tsukihime or Fate.

It's done.

Which Melty Blood games are the ones that I have to play?

>>21368515
All of them.

Oh

>>21368515
The original scenario (from the base game, also playable in Re-ACT) is the canon one.
The rest follow a hypothetical timeline where Sacchin survives and (somehow) becomes penpals with Sion, plus things like White Len's creation. All of them are worth playing.

>>21374497
Sacchin not only survives, but fucking thrives. Give that universe's Sacchin a few hundred years and her power levels will be enormous.

Why the fuck is there still only one Assassin in Extella Link? I really want cursed arm, but that will probably never happen.

Today is May 20th, Asagami Fujino's birthday!
Happy birthday, appendicitis girl!

>>21359399
I watched before I read 428 (it's a direct sequel) and thought it was kinda shit. Some really cute girls and fun moments though. Maybe I'd appreciate it more now with the full context.

>>21357921
I think the Fate version is so fucking different that there's no way they'll keep that design anywhere else. UNIST design is perfection so i wonder how they'll build upon it.

>>21345610
Is this in English?

How can I mount the Tsukihime CD image in linux? I tried burning it to a CD but I can't see the data part of the CD, only the audio.

I feel Nasu mocked his FGO fanbase intelligence with the last event. Or at least criticized it?

>>21387219
Whatever it is, it is retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms2_qekyFVQ&list=PLdWuc_xyC-UWNs40hGIDJMs0SrFgmJH6g&index=61&t=0s

>>21387219
Did he? At this point I only play the main story when it comes out, I can't bring myself to play any of the events anymore.

>>21387219
The story is like metaphor for the main story. Also Miguel and Gabriela = Roman and Mashu (especially the "I dearly love your future" part). Roman and Moriarty's interactions are surprisingly fun eventhough Roman doesn't know who Moriarty is and Moriarty also doesn't know anything about Roman (cuz Shinjuku is after Solomon). Since the novel version still follows the original script (after LB3 intro), i wonder how they will do with those parts & which ending will be chosen. The story ends with this line from Romani: "That’s... a story with romance." (pic related). Btw
>No matter how many ideas you have, there is only one ending to a story.
This probably refers to Lostbelts and Panhistory stuff in part 2 but this makes me remember to FSN and Tsukihime...

Any advice on playing the VNs on GNU/Linux?

>>21393460
Just get a virtual machine

>>21393460
probably just need to run it like
LANG="ja_JP.UTF8" wine game.exe
and make sure you have jp language support enabled.

>>21393872
Not the person you replied to but it seems like a pain to mount the tsukihime image from the Mega in the op.

Are any of you reading Tsuki No Sango?

If so, what'd you think of it so far?

>>21387219
>>21387326
watch Fate/Extra Last Encore(100% written/directed by Nasu) so you can lose hope of the remake ever being good

Nasu tried to recreate the "plot twist" from the original extra (your saber is not really Saber from FSN) among other elements, like Not-Rin and familiar characters. Last Encore also works as some sort of epilogue that requires you not only to had played Extra and CCC but a decent knowledge of the lore in the Extraverse.

>telling people that they need to think harder about Fate/Extra Last Encore after it flopped and became the lowest selling Fate anime of ALL TIME
>He claimed it would be more accessible to people who didn't play EXTRA, it ended up being inaccessible even to people who had played EXTRA & CCC
>then in older interview mocking his fans for trying to find meaning where there is none and constantly trying to explain his plot holes
>not-so subtly saying that he thinks his first works including Tsukihime, Notes and Mahoyo were embarrassing and chuuni shit and he doesn't want to deal with them anymore
>Nasu said that Fate/Extra is his post-chuuni work, and he talked about wanting to be "taken seriously" this time

Perhaps that why he keeps pushing fate Extra so much, these recent years.

>>21394878
>Fate/Extra Last Encore(100% written/directed by Nasu)
Pretty sure Last Encore was directed by Shinbou Akiyuki and Miyamoto Yukihiro, homie

>>21394878
He remade Mahoyo as to not feel that way anymore.

>>21394878
>not-so subtly saying that he thinks his first works including Tsukihime, Notes and Mahoyo were embarrassing and chuuni shit and he doesn't want to deal with them anymore
He's been doing that shit for years. He obviously doesn't like his old works anymore.

>>21394878
>watch Fate/Extra Last Encore(100% written/directed by Nasu) so you can lose hope of the remake ever being good
So you can lose hope of everything*

New Empire of Delays demo.
https://mega.nz/#!PZczmSpL!OI606QhzNJnS1T7JzfT5OsVqhVmGZVApbRbnCip7Ig8

>>21389694
It doesn't matter what the novel is about, Nasu took it and made a meta-commentary about FGO. Your pic related can also be because "It's Roman's story", it's intended to be a double pun because Roman is "Romance" as genre or philosophy and the name of the character.

There are two layers of meta commentary if you squint:
The original author's vision vs people involved (including executive meddling) and the audience. With the storyline of Murasaki being out cold (the "death of the author" or its absence) with people involved writing fanfic about the work or at least focusing on half-truth premises and their favorites they are invested, over the main characters (Gabriela and Miguel relationship). Which can be seen as how there's an emphasis on events and other filler which sometimes overshadows the substance intended by Nasu (Mashu's growth and Romani's philosophy/way of life).
That's the most meta one.
The other one is a narrative parallel to FGO up part 2 beginning:
a) the real hero is mistreated as a suspicious character by the cast.
b) surrogate father/daughter relationship as heart of it.
c) A noble sacrifice and love legacy.
d) Like you said, we can only choose one future but the new "twist" (we can rewrite the ending, which is already present in the song: "Kuuhaku"): https://bambooxzx.wordpress.com/2018/07/24/fate-grand-order-kuuhaku/
e) clever use of catalyst (implication Moriarty got threw off time axis by a peppermink green book he damaged and he first calls out a 'doctor'). Nursery Rhyme (who also acts as young Gabriela in a flashack, a character who overlaps with Mashu's role) wants the papermink green book he damaged (a color that's present on Chaldea guys uniforms like Roman's) back and Moriarty promises to help so he contacts Murasaki, it's all pretty symbolic.
f) We saw the main heroine, Gabriela, get knocked out and be out of the spotlight like the hero, her father, Miguel, die, while other characters take the scene. This is 1.5. Even Guda appears like a 'character' but he's actually the camera man, the witness, not the hero.
e) But the ending where all is wrapped up, when is edited as the real ending and not the one chosen, Gabriela takes the screen again, and the last scene is Miguel alive, watching over from afar as Gabriela and her friends continue his legacy (this could be either Roman in Lostroom or the Person of Chaldea).

>>21389440
See what >>21389694 says and this posts. It's kind of clever little event that had Nasu go full meta.

>>21397934
Nothing is particularly interesting nor clever about meta commentary.

>>21397934
I would rather see Nasu writing something good again instead.

>>21397934
>Your pic related can also be because "It's Roman's story", it's intended to be a double pun because Roman is "Romance" as genre or philosophy and the name of the character.
Yes that's what i mean. To be honest i'm glad that we got an event which focuses on the father - daughter relationship between Roman and Mashu since it is one of my most favorite parts in FGO. Before this, the manga about Romani & Mashu backstory is also very hearwarming too. Btw a bit about the novel version that i saw before
>the time point mentioned in Meiho-sou's novel is when Chaldea are going to India
>apparently some spoopy stuff is happening in India that we need to deal with plus we need to get some material for Mashu's shield to install Black Barrel onto it

Speaking of Lostroom
>Blue: dream of the dead -> Lev according to his entry
>Pink: dream of the living person -> Fujimaru according to his entry
>Yellow: yet to come/unrealized dream or dream of/before the dawn -> ???
>Red: observer's eyes. the main story of Moonlight/Lostroom
>Olga's dream is called "dream of the absence/gone" or "a dream that doesn't exist" which isn't mentioned in this venn diagram. also there is a part in Lostroom that her eyes and body has all 7 colors in this image.

>>21398270
This was actually pretty good, the parts he wrote.

>>21398407
Oh yeah. I forgot that the loyal dude who died to protect the letter = Da Vinci dying to protect the briefcase.

Moriarty saying to NR that "you won't see the peppermink book again" because some things are lost but later caving in and accepting Murasaki's help to repair it in exchange (it doesn't have a resolution - that we explicitely saw YET, but it's echoing the same plotline).

>>21394878
Well that's disappointing. It's a shame he feels insecure about his OG chuuni work because that's when he peaked.

>>21398407
It dawns me Mashu dies outside FGO. The experiments began on 2000.

>>21398779
Extra is garbage. He keeps rewriting it UNTIL YOU LIKE IT.

>>21357405
Are they no longer friends or something?

Eh? I thought there are no true ancestors in Fate timelines? Does this mean Fate can have Altrouge?

>>21399642
They probably exist, but they're not as strong.

>>21397977
Meta-commentary is just 'stories about stories'. The writing style is distinctly like Nasu's other works.

The themes may be overrated because they're easy to relate to, but if you're willing to accept that stories can be meaningful, then there's inherently something worth saying about them as well.

>>21399642
DAA, not True Acestors. TA mostly died out by the Clock Tower and the Church by the way, they hunted them down.

QUICKLY
DRAW THE CRIMSON MOON

>>21399642
>I thought there are no true ancestors in Fate timelines?
DAAs, not True Ancestor. Those like Einnashe or Rita in Fate worlds are called 上級死徒 instead of DAA.

Consort Yu is a bit different from Altrouge or Arcueid anyway. She isn't related to Crimson Moon and was created by Gaia only in the inner sea of the planet (where Excalibur was made btw) but magi still put her into the category of True Ancestor. She is more akin to Beo than Arcueid/Altrouge i think.

so im at fate/kaleid liner prisma 3 manga and it's still currently ongoing and there's some anime movie that happens after the prisma 3 anime or something, where i actually have to stop in the manga in order to watch the movie? or the adoption is unrelated at all

>>21401278
The movie is an adaptation of the flashback arc so they could not have practically an entire season dedicated to Shirou and Miyu's backstory. It comes up partway through the portion of manga that has already been translated.

>>21400956
She is a TA without the contract with Type Moon and bloodlust it caused. This is the entire difference. She's still a vampire and drinks blood.

>>21401998
>She's still a vampire and drinks blood.
Not really i guess...? In her Valentines scene, she says she doesn't have vampiric impulses but if the occasion forces her, she would drink blood for the sake of getting mana as soon as possible in an emergency, and she also said she killed some people like that (like her situation with Lanling's Saint Graph in LB3). Basically she is able to live without drinking blood but she will drink it in case she really really really needs mana. She also hates vampires like Vlad and Carmilla too. "Bloodsucker" is more accurate than "Vampire" i think.

>>21400172
>TA mostly died out by the Clock Tower and the Church by the way, they hunted them down

Where the hell was that stated? If Fate TA are as strong as Yu this would be complete bullshit.

Fate generally just avoids TA and other vampire stuff. And Fate timeline TA are not bloodthirsty nor are they similar to Type Moon. They are just vampire fairies minding their own business.

>>21399642
Now that I think about it, Tsukihime TA were mostly dudes because they took after Crimson Moon. So shouldn't Fate TA be mostly girls since that contract never happened and they are far closer to Gaia?

>>21399705
Didn't Yu fight a bunch of servants?