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New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

日本語でなきゃお前pussyじゃん

Previous thread: >>21250611

>> No.21259313

mapo tofu

>> No.21259361

Is Kanji harder than the Chinese characters? In regards to different readings and such.

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>> No.21259414

>>21259402
>30+ minutes a day
that seems pretty low

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At least post this one, it's actually funny compared to your bullshit guide.

>> No.21259424

>>21259414
Feel free to commit more time if you can. This should be the minimum. If you're a NEET nothings stopping you from doing this until you're too exhausted every day.

>> No.21259434

>>21259414
千里之行,始於足下
The number is to encourage beginners to actually start. Starting is always the hardest part

>> No.21259437

>>21259421
Your tranny discord is the only place that finds it funny

>> No.21259441 [DELETED] 

>>21259437
日本語でなきゃお前pussyじゃん

>> No.21259471

>>21259437
that image has zero association with any djt-related discord.

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>>21259471

>> No.21259525

Hey if anyone wants to read epubs on their tablet if you use moon reader you can highlight something, click more, change the first dictionary,add a custom dictionary and use Kaku. Basically like having yomichan. Also it has furigana support

>> No.21259526

imagine posting discord screencaps like anybody cares lol

>> No.21259530

What's the best way to read manga (image files) on a kindle? I tried kindle comic converter but it keeps saying that the files are corrupted even though everything's fine

>> No.21259541

>>21259524
Why did qu*zm*ster change his name in d*sc*rd? Is he that embarrassed of himself?

>> No.21259545

I thought qm was the best? Why isn't he using a name that is written in classical japanese?

>> No.21259548

>>21259530
i tried kindle for manga but it's just fucking shit. I bought an android tablet and now use it for manga, there is a cool app called OCR Manga Reader that can read comic book archives and look OCR kanji and give definitions

>> No.21259549

>>21259541
She no longer uses male pronouns after the battle with Matt

>> No.21259560

>>21259548
Okay then. I had a table once but I didn't use it much and it broke then, I'll stay with books on my kindle and manga on PC.

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threadly reminder

>> No.21259562

>>21259524
yeah and?

>> No.21259584

幸せ sounds like 死合わせ, and somehow that makes me happy. Positive thoughts, /jp/, alway rember happy day.

>> No.21259588

>happines = meet death
damn, that's deep

>> No.21259590

>>21259584
No way I had the same thought just この間

>> No.21259633

>>21259584
do they have the same pitch accent?

>> No.21259636

>>21259588
>meet
Look closer it's not 会, it's 合.

>> No.21259646

>>21259633
no

>> No.21259660

What's the difference between an Ankidrone and a regular Anki user?

>> No.21259661 [DELETED] 

考えようによって考え様によって考えのやり方によって
OMG I always thought this よう was the 主体の意志をあらわす よう

>> No.21259663

>>21259636
it's almost the same shit

>> No.21259667

考えようによって -> 考え様によって -> 考えのやり方によって
OMG I always thought this よう was the 主体の意志をあらわす よう
apparently unicode 矢印s aren't allowed anymore.

>> No.21259679

>>21259402
>Do only half of vncore
is that because even though it's only 1250 there's still words in it that i don't see as frequently as other words in particular VNs?

>> No.21259687

>>21259561
the more i think about his "m___ barely reads random kanji better than me even though he's been learning thrice as long" excuse the more funny i find it. it's like ESLs bragging about knowing more words than natives even though they speak like retards.

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モグモグ

>> No.21259734

>>21259679
The reasoning is explained in the note at the bottom

>> No.21259735

>>21259732
大嫌い

>> No.21259754

>>21259732
あじをくった

>> No.21259757

>>21259754
you had sex for the first time with a fish?

>> No.21259771

アノン気おつけて、姿勢が悪い!

>> No.21259781

>>21259305
Why is there no report option for ban evasion?

>> No.21259796

>>21259361
Most have more than one way of reading, unlike Chinese. Phonology is easier.

>> No.21259805

>>21259781
For every report on a legitimate ban evader there's a report on some faggot who everyone is "sure" is ban evading but isn't and mods would rather not sort through the shit.

>> No.21259812

>>21259402
>20 cards a day for a month.

50 cards is way better and not harder than 20, it just take longer.

>> No.21259819

>>21259812
The real problem is that there's not enough interesting input to get 50 cards a day from.

>> No.21259825

>can't type any runes or the system thinks the post is spam
wtf gookmoot

>> No.21259827

>>21259812
Your urge to ankidrone is exactly what this kind of guide deters

>> No.21259830

>>21259827
brother, 20 cards takes you max 30 minutes, but once you starts going at it learning new cards is easier. 50 cards a day for a month is the way to go.

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What criteria do you all use when deciding whether or not you should mine a word?

>> No.21259839

>>21259832
if I think quizmaster would mine it too

>> No.21259841

>>21259584
>somehow that makes me happy
no it doesnt. stop trying to be edgy

>> No.21259842

>>21259832
I usually don't mine a word if it's kana only or if its meaning can be easily guessed through the etymology

>> No.21259848

>>21259812
>not harder
>just take longer
uh

>> No.21259850

>>21259757
dont be such an DQNwww

>> No.21259854

>>21259832
Use the anime frequency dictionary in yomichan. Then just depends on your level. If you're just starting out maybe anything under 6000 or 10000. Once you have a large vocabularies probably just do everything

>> No.21259858

>>21259848
if you don't have time to do flashcards for an hour then read for one more hour then you don't have the time to learn a language.

>> No.21259859

>>21259858
OK, but if there's two identical things but one takes longer then it's harder.

>> No.21259860

if you dont have time to shit up djt you don't have time to learn a language

>> No.21259862

>>21259842
kana words are actually on the whole more difficult for me to remember, especially if they're adverbial or transitional. ひたすら、やがて、ようやく、ざっくり、 いずれ、いわば took a lot of lookups to finally stick and in hindsight i should have just anki'd them with sentence cards. i think sentence cards are really useful for stuff like that.

>> No.21259900

>>21259862
You mean, 只管、軈て、漸く、孰れ、謂わば? They indeed would have been difficult to remember if they didn't have kanji associated with them.

>> No.21259903

Finally brought myself to read Tae Kim, it's really boring though and I want to continue reading, but I feel like it's necessary.

>> No.21259905

Perfect is the enemy of good. Stop chasing an ideal vision of yourself. Only compare what you do to what you do on average, and keeping pushing forward.

>> No.21259916

>>21259905
no, its quite the opposite, you have to aim for the moon so you land among the stars, if you aim for what's in front of you and is easily reachable all you will amount to is dirt.

>> No.21259917

>>21259830
Yea but if you do 50 new cards a day and can add up really fast so that if you miss a day or two you have 400+ cards due for review. I try and limit it to 150 so I can easily keep the ankidroning to under an hour.

>> No.21259923

Would any of you have an anime romance where the mc is being taking care of by the love interest?
Like in mirai nikki? I also loved tsugumomo recently.
I have a strong fetish for nee sans type characters.

>> No.21259926

When I see more than 3 Kanjis in a row without a kana separating them, I feel like I'm reading Chinese and not Japanese lol

>> No.21259929

>>21259923
Witch Craft Works, now get out dumb requestfag

>> No.21259932

>>21259917
there is an addon for anki so you can take vacations.

>> No.21259935

>>21259923
>I have a strong fetish for nee sans type characters.
Read 姉なるもの but the doujinshi not the manga.

>> No.21259937

>>21259923
>>>/a/

>> No.21259938

>>21259929
>Witch Craft Works

Already watched this one and fucking loved it.

>> No.21259939

>>21259421
It seems like it's trying a bit too hard to be careless. Maybe tone it down.

>> No.21259942

>>21259935
I asked for an anime and I have read all of the doujin on tsumino already.

>>21259937
They don't accept request thread.

>> No.21259947

then ask on wsr dummy

>> No.21259956

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_YKjYzAX3M
Just in case some of you needed some more motivation ;^)

>> No.21259957

>>21259942
wait so you can ask for vidya recommendations on /v/ but you cannot ask for anime recommendations on /a/?

what a clown world.

>> No.21259959

>>21259947
dead board, no really if no one in here knows an anime like that I'll go there.

>> No.21259960

>>21259916
>planning to always lose
Sounds like a loser's mindset

>> No.21259961

>>21259956
what this

>> No.21259964

>>21259957
one of the reasons why /v/ is so shit. not saying /a/ is any better

>> No.21259965

>>21259961
vn of the decade

>> No.21259966

>>21259905
cringe

>> No.21259967

>>21259960
if your aim is at something you know you will reach then you aint aiming high enough.

>> No.21259968

>>21259402
Reading 30 minutes a day? When I try reading with yomichan and hover over words it all just seems like a jumbled mess, which of course is the case because it's a dictionary, but it just seems aimless.
I'll do it anyway. I'm on Tae Kim and everything. Any recommendations?

>> No.21259971

>>21259965
what if I don't know nihongo?

>> No.21259974

>>21259971
learn nihongo so you can read it ;^)

>> No.21259978

>>21259974
but its hard

>> No.21259979

Should I bother doing core2k before learning grammar rules? I started core2k yesterday but I dunno if it's productive since I can't really understand the sentences on the cards.

>> No.21259993

>>21259979
Just do both at the same time.

>> No.21259996

>擬声語
>擬音語
>擬態語
>擬容語
>擬情語
These things are the hardest part about Japanese.
"""Words""" like ぶらぶら are just stupid and I think Japs were just too lazy to come up with an actual word.
How are there so many of these """words"""?
This is some next level autism.
I like this language a lot, but this shit is making me mad ever since I started learning it.

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>>21259993
Okeydokey. Thank you for the help, have a /cm/

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I wonder whats this...

>> No.21260012

>>21260007
A hand on a package. Your wondering skills are shit.

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hmmm

>> No.21260023

cute hair

>> No.21260026
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>>21260023
i dont think my arm hair is that cute...

>> No.21260030

based

>> No.21260032

>supporting amazon
sorry but u r going to hell dude

>> No.21260036

Amazon is based enough not to get robbed by the goverment.

>> No.21260037

at this point hell is going to be owned by amazon so hes fine

>> No.21260038 [DELETED] 

kinda ruins my mood knowing i share this thread with browns.

>> No.21260041 [DELETED] 

>>21260038
and nips and blacks too.

>> No.21260042

same

>> No.21260052

Japanese is for white people only.

>> No.21260055

^ng

>> No.21260058

why do japanese people use japanese then

>> No.21260060

because Japanese are white

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>>21260038
Nigger here. How mad are you currently, whitey?

>> No.21260073

黒人大好き!

>> No.21260075 [DELETED] 

>>21260038
spic here. you mad whiteboy?

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Stop giving attention to him.

>> No.21260078

you guys even talk disgustingly. gross.

>> No.21260084

>>21260073
黒人のおちんちん大好。

>> No.21260086

>>21260084
私も!

>> No.21260087

>>21259524
sniped the new thread ; ) thanks quizmaster for the real killer op remember to do your reps

>> No.21260089

what happened to quizchad? i miss its posts

>> No.21260091

>People defending RTK in this day an age.

>> No.21260093

>>21260091
learn english

>> No.21260094

if u dont make typos u are esl as fuck lol

>> No.21260095

>>21260093
Learn French

>> No.21260097

whyd you bother to end with a dot but not enough to check for typos

>> No.21260100

Imagine having to think about ending your sentence with a dot.

>> No.21260102

>>21259524
>sniped the new thread

>> No.21260104

>>21260026
what happened with your hand, also put a bandaid on that cut dude

>> No.21260106

imagine putting a period at the end of a non-sentence

>> No.21260107

Imagine givn a fuc kabout other persons englsh on DJT.

>> No.21260108

how can u compare one key with reading ur entire shitty post
aside from the time it takes its so much less exciting than typing it up

>> No.21260111

Imagine, not using commas.

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>> No.21260115

Imagine typing on a mobile phone.

>> No.21260117

>>21260113
ching chong to yo u to mthrfuck eeeeeeer

>> No.21260119

>>21260117
put a bullet through your head already

>> No.21260127

BTFO

>> No.21260130

imagine posting in this shit thread

>> No.21260132

>>21259968
Recommendations for reading? Yotsuba, Flying Witch, Takagisan are all pretty easy and funny

>> No.21260134

>>21260130
I just did now wat

>> No.21260136

>>21259900
i never see them written in kanji in my immersion materials

>> No.21260148

>>21260130
yea now we have picture proof that literal shit browses these threads

>> No.21260151
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>be me
>wasted 3 months on rtk 1+3
>no longer interested in learning Japanese
>probably going to forget all of these characters

>> No.21260152

>no longer interested in learning Japanese

Found your problem. Stop blaiming it on RTK.

>> No.21260156

a couple hours a day is not wasting 3 months. if you waste the rest of your day it's not rtk's fault.

>> No.21260157

>>21259929
imagine watching witchcraft works and still being a jerk

>> No.21260163

>>21259968
then find n+1 stuff and sentence mine for a while till you understand at least 70% of what you read.

>> No.21260174

>>21260151
at least you trained your memory a little, i guess?

>> No.21260176

So what do I do with RTK bros?

>> No.21260181

learn japanese or don't

>> No.21260182

you remember the kanji?

>> No.21260187

Even the last bastion of RTK apologists (AJATT/MIA) now only recommend doing the 1000 most common kanji and recognition only (also called Lazy Kanji)

>> No.21260191

why does everyone think kanji is so hard to learn? grammar is easily the hardest part of japanese

>> No.21260194

cuz they dont do rtk

>> No.21260195

>>21259956
damn this look so fucking good but I'm sure it's hard to read for a beginner

>> No.21260196

RTK is good to get used to remembering Kanji.

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>> No.21260206

>I wasted my time memorizing bunch of fairy tales instead of actually learning Japanese
Why do people do this?

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>>21259974

Pick related, some tea, and reading things that are interesting to you (using Yomichan of course.)

>> No.21260215

Ok how much time should I give to RTK?

>> No.21260220

is wanikani shit?

>> No.21260221

零時

>> No.21260222

>>21260208
>reading things that are interesting to you (using Yomichan of course.)
Isn't that a browser plugin? There's nothing interesting i know of to read on a web page

>> No.21260227

>>21260206
huh

>> No.21260228

>>21260220
yes

>> No.21260232

>>21260222
welcome to djt read the guide

>> No.21260233

>>21260191
agreed. grammar still buttfucks me every other sentence after 6 months. my guess is that if i learned spanish or a slavic language i could understand more 6 months in, even if i couldn't reproduce it.

>> No.21260234

>>21260222
If you can't find a single interesting book in the library then why the fuck are you learning Japanese?

>> No.21260237

>>21260215
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1svvsr7f9cnpwka/Matt%27s+Lazy+Kanji+1k.apkg

>> No.21260238

>go to a store focused on japanese only stuff in downtown
>can actually read a bit
feels good

>> No.21260239

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgRte6oSoF8&

>> No.21260242

>>21260234
For anime and manga

>> No.21260243

i just wanna be able to fap to my chinese cartoons without the need of translations bros

>> No.21260246

>>21260228
b-but I just paid $299 for the lifetime subscription

>> No.21260249

>>21260239
he changed his mind on this tard.

>> No.21260248

>>21260242
then go to animelon and watch anime with JP subs. Translate the subs with Yomichan.

>> No.21260252

自白剤

>> No.21260253

>>21260246
lmao ask before you buy stuff next time good luck with the refund

>> No.21260260

holy shit matt's website is still empty

>> No.21260261

>>21260249
Not him, but he did? Finished watching it a bit ago and it seemed reasonable? What changed?

>> No.21260263

>>21260249
I thought the only thing he added is that RTK 2 is trash and should be avoided.

Never heard him shitting on RTK 1+3

>> No.21260264

>>21260261
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-1/practice/lazy-kanji/

i guess "sounding reasonable" aint what it's cracked up to be

>> No.21260265 [DELETED] 

>>21260087
>>21260102
if u didn't notice I created 3 out of 4 last threads

>>21259524
lmao one guy on discord saw the image here and said it's funny, check out this guy reading all discord posts and who the fuck is a tranny anyway, i'm the straightest motherfucker in the world
you obviously got a problem

>>21260007
>>21260026
retard hand

>>21259561
>>21259687
lol @ using the 1 quiz matt got lucky in
like i ever pretended to be better anyway lmao
u all obv got some warped views about what the quiz results mean lol

>>21260089
here

>> No.21260266

>>21260264
Why did he kill Bambi

>> No.21260270 [DELETED] 

>>21259524
>>21259541
>>21259549
oh and i forgot 日本語でなきゃお前pussyじゃん

>> No.21260276

Guys I’m FUCKING PANICKING there’s nothing good to read right now FUCK my Japanese is going to go away!!

>> No.21260277

well u can have the thread for a bit ill wait til u burn out lol

>> No.21260279

>>21260276
listen to your mara on what to read

>> No.21260280

i've been having the thread for a month lol rather i wish i would burn out because this place sucks and it way 2 easy

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Oh well...

>> No.21260296

>>21260239
Can't believe he keeps this video up after publicly admitting it was bad advice and misled people.

He should at least unlist it.

>> No.21260297

Buy it again for another djter

>> No.21260300

>>21260296
yea i don't get if it's a masturbatory "look at my deep understanding and theorizing even if i ended up being wrong" thing.

or wanting to own up to his mistakes thing. but regardless it should probably be unlisted.

>> No.21260304

How do RTK friends read 心理?

>> No.21260309

>>21260276
Read KimiAru.

>> No.21260310

>>21260304
Heart logic

>> No.21260312

>>21260304
heart + logic

>> No.21260315

I want all of DJT to read 太陽と鉄

>> No.21260319

>>21260300
I think it's more to do with the fact that it's one of his most popular videos and he's putting getting exposure for his channel above not disseminating misinformation.

>> No.21260323

2 week DJT anon here, make me read something.

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>>21260264
What the fuck are these stories?

>> No.21260329

>>21260300
>>21260319
His AJATT timeline video where he gives the same advice (do RTK before you learn any Japanese) is still up too, and also happens to be one of his most popular videos.

>> No.21260332

>>21260309
send link that works then friend

>> No.21260335

The idea was to post unusual readings that were impossible for rtk friends to read but I guess you broke this ancient tradition with your post.

>> No.21260337

I am almost done with RTK
2 more days
I can feel myself BECOMING japanese

>> No.21260339

rtk doesn't teach you any readings so why the fuck would you bother with "unusual" readings you dumbass

>> No.21260340

>>21260326
Imagine needing all of this bullshit just to memorize something as simple as 四.

>> No.21260341

>>21260337
I think you meant Chinese.

>> No.21260342

>>21260315
>太陽と鉄
fuck off pewdiepie

>> No.21260345

>>21260323
https://vndb.org/g23

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>>21260340
Dude look at this, RTKers have to memorize old as ten + mouth.

>> No.21260349

>>21260319
>>21260329
Wrong, he literally tells you to watch it on his lazy rtk page. What he says in it is still mostly true. Also he still advocates doing RTK fully in the traditional way once fluency is achieved

>> No.21260351

>>21260341
込 峠 笹 - heh. no, sweetie

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I'm a RTK success story
Japanese women love me now and all of my dreams have come true thanks to James Heisig

>> No.21260358

>>21260346
I can understand why they'd make the first sentence, but ten mouths? Really?

>> No.21260363

>>21260354
Is that Matt? It kinda looks like him and the hairline is the same.

>> No.21260364
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You convinced me DJT, I'm returning this book.

>> No.21260367

well you should return it because you can get it for free online dummi

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>>21260358
this is so fucking fun.

>> No.21260373

>>21260358
He probably just wrote script that grabs the top 2 highest voted stories on koohi

>> No.21260377

>>21260346
what a shit mnemonic, they could've at least went for something relating the the holy hand grenade being from an old movie

>> No.21260378

Well I did learn 中 from 中出し

>> No.21260380

>>21260372
>my GF lets me cum in her mouth
Is this what Matt wishes?

>> No.21260383

is mattsdl an infamous user here?

>> No.21260393

>>21260378
who didn't?

>> No.21260397
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What am I in for.

>> No.21260399

>>21260397
Pure kino

>> No.21260403

>>21260346
you don't have to. you can just remember "old" if you want.

>> No.21260412

>>21260403
shhh, I like to purposely misunderstand the opposing side to make them look more stupid

>> No.21260419

>>21260393
me
but i learned 出し from it

>> No.21260428

Can Japanese people actually write 薔薇 from memory?

>> No.21260429 [DELETED] 

>>21259781
why do you think i got banned lol

>> No.21260440

>>21260429
because you do things I dislike.

>> No.21260465

>>21260428
no

>> No.21260478

My kindle fucking sucks at recognizing what word I want to get the definition of, I try to keep pressed and it just highlights the whole fucking sentence.

What do?

>> No.21260481

>>21260478
time to hop on your desktop and use yomichan

>> No.21260484

>>21260481
But I want to read キノの旅 from my bed.

>> No.21260485

>>21260484
Use a laptop then.

>> No.21260487

>>21260484
i'd like to read things from my bed too but i don't know 10k words yet so i have to suck it up

>> No.21260490

Guess I'll just buy a better e-reader

>> No.21260491

>>21260478
Your ebook file is probably fucked up
https://pastebin.com/qdaYzitJ (I haven't actually tried this)

>> No.21260492

>>21260485
the whole point of e-ink is to avoid the eye strain of shit like laptops so

>> No.21260495

>>21260492
turn down the brightness on your laptop

>> No.21260499

we have a retard among us.

>> No.21260501

>>21260491
I downloaded the .mobi directly from the webpage.

>> No.21260507

>>21260501
Said webpage is a cobbled together collection of random shit. Buy it from Amazon if you want reliability.

>> No.21260523

How does DJT pronounce this? 児童相談室

>> No.21260525

>>21260377
This is literally my mnemonic for 古

>> No.21260532

Oh and here I thought kindle had a J-E dictionary, I have to buy the fucking dictionary too.

>> No.21260537

i learned furui as furui

>> No.21260552

Can Matt be considered a monk?

>> No.21260554

nigga's buddah

>> No.21260555

>>21260552
well he's almost bald enough so maybe

>> No.21260560

real monks choose poverty and isolation to dedicate themselves to the art and philosophy of their craft

>> No.21260569

>Go to Japan
>Decide to shut himself in his room, grind anki, and eat cheap food from his poor host family

Yeah I think he is a monk.

>> No.21260571

when will i stop thinking of shit like 手に入れる so literally and think of it as willfully attain or just attain rather than "LOL HE MADE PUT IN HIS HAND"

>> No.21260580

>>21260571
When you become a native.

>> No.21260591

>>21260571
When you play enough Pokemon

>> No.21260596

Are nips really that sensitive about using their given name or is that something that has been greatly exaggerated by anime?

>> No.21260600

>>21260569
not even close

>> No.21260604

here is a great word to listen to on yomichan : 手櫛

>> No.21260609
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Post your favourite jap yt channel rn anon. Lets see your taste

>> No.21260615

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz0lin3ZsOtmr2yuTN2MDQg

>> No.21260620

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wecxK_a0ACU

>> No.21260627

講義=こうぎ
正義=せいぎ
会議=かいぎ
but suddenly 広義=こうごう

>> No.21260632

>>21260627
rikai still says 広義=こうぎ my dude

>> No.21260640

>>21260632
>he doesn't know

>> No.21260663

Ok I think its more to do with 縦書き format fucking up my kindle in mysterious ways.

Guess I'll read other novel.

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5 days of shame

>> No.21260684

>>21260609
https://www.youtube.com/user/GAMEacho

>> No.21260687

>>21260627
Yes, there is no system behind it you can figure out, just get memorizing.

>> No.21260705

by the time you git gud does any "good samaritan" desire to help out people with translations here and there completely disappear?

>> No.21260710

>>21260705
learn english lol fuck you saying

>> No.21260716

Nah because of the massive ego boner and sense of worth it only gets better

>> No.21260717

Hey vros what's the proper way to mine? Should I be getting most words I don't know or a few a page? Going for efficiency here.

>> No.21260719

>>21260609
thinly veiled recommendation post

>> No.21260720

>>21260710
idk man i feel like that sentence is incredibly easy to understand. what's confusing about it?

>> No.21260722

>>21260705
Someone that's good must be helping people with translations, otherwise nothing would ever get translated

>> No.21260723

>>21260609
You could just beg people to post good jap yt channels

Or you could just watch anime

>> No.21260733

>>21260722
You don't need to be good to shit out the level of translations most anime and manga get

>> No.21260736

>>21260710
What are you doing in a language learning community if you can't even understand that

>> No.21260743

steve stated recently in one of his 90 day challenge Q&A's that he's never been able to comfortably watch/understand japanese television, yet japanese is one of his best languages, only behind mandarin and french.

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>>21260609
Beiren is like gradeundera but better in every way

>> No.21260758

>>21260743
Steve is a fucking hack fraud that's literally selling a product

>> No.21260760
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21260760

Newfag here, I don't need a translation, but I'm just wondering if I'm transcribing this right.
>ケンマスはおちフきがなさすぎるえろ??
>そんな二とねーよ!!

>> No.21260773

I'm not gonna post the link so I don't get accused of shilling but that video is out now. Check your sub boxes.

>> No.21260776

>>21260760
No

>> No.21260781

>>21260743
because all the nigga does is read, dumbasses

>> No.21260782

>>21260743
I'm relieved to hear that, that means this language will keep challenging me until I die. I was afraid it would get boring eventually.

>> No.21260822

>>21260776
How to do better

>> No.21260823

IT'S UP https://youtu.be/TKs-NZvxa_Q

>> No.21260830

>>21260822
realize katakana don't magically appear in the middle of a hiragana word. Realize a squiggle at the end of a question isn't a kana. Read more. Watch more. Follow this guide >>21259402

>> No.21260848

>>21260781
He stresses listening and says it's more important than reading, and he listens more than he reads.

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>>21260830
Thank you very much!

>> No.21260857

>>21260823
oh boy here we iku

>> No.21260879

>>21260857
no we dont

>> No.21260883

>>21260823
oh boy here we 去来?

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I shouldn't be using this button in Anki at all, right?

>> No.21260916

>>21260904
Only when you get easy as fuck basic stuff

>> No.21260919

>>21260904
>>21260916
like 周囲

>> No.21260921

>>21260855
Once y*u ac*ually k*ow j*p*nese *ou don't even *eed to *ecogn*ze all the charac*ers to rea* it

>> No.21260927

>>21260904
Read this https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/anki/low-key-anki/low-key-anki-summary-and-installation/

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>> No.21260945

>>21260927
its literal trash. ease is very useful.

if you get a word but didn't feel good about it you press hard so that you'll see it more often. seeing the words that you want to more often and the words you don't need to less often is better, even if it means more reps. long reps are only a problem for matt and other dumbasses that do sentence decks.

>> No.21260950

形状記憶合金
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aycf46ocKxA
I really like this word

>> No.21260971

>>21260945
>t. doesn't know how anki works

>> No.21260981 [DELETED] 

>>21260971
i do you dumb fuckign FAGGOT!!!!!!!!! unless your interval settings are fucked you WILL see that word less over time as the intervals get larger, and if you ever feel like you don't need to see it for a long time, then you hit easy.

>> No.21261028

Who is Jamal?

>> No.21261050

I set my new cards/day to be 10 on Anki
On the first day I got ten cards, but today I only got five, what's up with that?

>> No.21261071
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21261071

i need help guys i feel like have been plateau-ing pretty hard. i have been studying japanese for almost a year and for the past 2 months i feel like my word retention dropped off a cliff. i went from averaging 90-95 in anki to about 80-85 and as i keep adding word that i pretty much never encounter again retaining these words gets harder and harder. i'm currently done with all jlpt n5,n4,n3 words even n3 words have hard time sticking, especially ones that i don't see much i.e (i keep reading 用心 as ようしん). should i consider writing, maybe that would help? i'm not really sure what to do to make ""obscure"" vocab stick beside failing them over and over in anki

>read more
i'm reading as much as i can, i'm a full time students in a fairy hard program so i can only do 90-120mins/day though i have been going the quality approach and trying to understanding everything, maybe i will go the quantity approach and just skip everything i dont understand to natural srs as much as possible..

any anons in the same boat please let me know what helped you out

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>>21261071
I think it goes away if you just keep reading.

>> No.21261154

tfw I just stopped learning japanese all together when I stopped ankidroning

>> No.21261166

reading is fun and all, but I really don't see how I learn words faster than anki like that.

>> No.21261171

>>21261154
now u know nihongo isnt for u

>> No.21261178

tfw i still read vns in jp even tho i stopped ankidroning for a whole year

>> No.21261179

>>21261166
you don't. it's a myth

>> No.21261184

>太陽に嫌われた国
i'm literally retarded
does this mean country that is hated by the sun? also where can i find an expansive list for all the uses of the に particle?

>> No.21261185

what myth no one ever said its faster lol its just more fun

>> No.21261189

>>21261184
a country that is hate because of the sun

>> No.21261194

if anki becomes so boring you quit after 3 months, sure you learned 2000 words, but let's say you never get bored of reading fun stuff. you'll learn an infinite amount of words because you'll be able to do it more.

>> No.21261195

>>21261189
Context is that the country is surrounded by a thick fog in which no one can even see the sun
sorry for asking dumb shit

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time to play
DECODE THE PIXELATED VIDEOGAME KANJI!!! first up.
first word ?長

>> No.21261201

>>21261185
trivial truth

>> No.21261202

>>21261196
悠長

>> No.21261211

神に選ばれた男はどこに行ったの?

>> No.21261213

>>21261166
whats your current comprehension level? how much are you looking up? how many words per, say, 10 sentences?

>> No.21261226

>>21261213
60-70% percent probably.

>> No.21261227

>>21261195
My post you are replying to is a joke btw. Anyway it took me a while but I found the video that cracked the code for me when it comes to this ni. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMk2r7sCjvY I hope you can understand it.

>> No.21261242

>>21261227
But that video doesn't even cover the ni used in your original sentence so disregard my post lol

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>>21260380
he wishes he had a girlfriend

>> No.21261268

>>21261255
>Matt is single

what? He is at his peak right now and he can't smash puss?

>> No.21261280

>>21261268
he's implied he's smashed jap puss before.

>> No.21261291
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21261291

how do i improve?

>> No.21261299

>>21261280
source

>> No.21261304

>>21261291
die and be reborn as a Japanese girl.

>> No.21261309

>>21261291
study at 7 am

>> No.21261321
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21261321

>Is it possible to understand anime in Japanese if you read and listen for 7 hours a day?
>If you read and listen 7 hours every day you'll be able to do a LOT, a LOT. Ya know you'll be able to do anything in Japanese.

>> No.21261326

i need proof that steve is any good at any language

>> No.21261331

Steve "때문에" Kauffman

>> No.21261333

why do you need that

>> No.21261341

My Manager noticed You've been staring at that Kanji for Like, a Really Long time. Is there anything I could help you with?

>> No.21261344

he really doesnt seem very good. all he aims for is conversational in his languages. "conversational" japanese is like 2000 vocabs and probably N5 to N4 grammar at best.

>> No.21261349

conversational means nothing

>> No.21261352

>>21261349
i just described it

>> No.21261354

your description sucks cock

>> No.21261356

>>21261326
why? do you not like his advice?

>> No.21261357

>Get told to get a VN because is more enjoyable than reading books.
>Spend 30 minutes trying to find a working link
>doesn't work
>go to /vg/
>download VN
>only 1 peer and its going to take 24h to download mere 3gb

guess I'll keep reading novels...

>> No.21261359

>>21261357
what are you complaining about

>> No.21261364

>>21261359
that fucking torrent sucks and I wish they uploaded VNs to mega or something.

>> No.21261368

>dude, just play VNs and use a text hooker, it's really fun and a great way to learn
>try it
>game is the size of an ant on my modern display
>no way to resize it
>can't read or enjoy shit because it's so fucking tiny
yeah great medium guys. really great.

>> No.21261372

https://www.ebookjapan.jp/ebj/content/ranking/uriage/genre3/?summurize=4
So LNs are basically shit if these are the most popular ones. I’m giving up and going full VN mode once I’m sick of mining AI-chan’s vids. VNs are the one true way.

>> No.21261377

>>21261357
which VN?

>> No.21261383

>>21261377
https://vndb.org/v3971

>> No.21261389

>>21261383
there's a working torrent with fast speed on http://rutracker.org/

download that then follow this advice:
>>/jp/thread/16533488#p16540535

>> No.21261404

if you play vns youll get addicted to porn

>> No.21261417

if you play vns you'll get real good at nihongo
but real bad at getting a gf

>> No.21261424

real womyn can't compete with vn girls
thats why humanity is going to go extinct

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>>21261417
you can learn literally every method by which you can get a girl to like you smdh

>> No.21261427

You can also buy your VNs off DMM and dodge the region locking. Go through jap TOR exit nodes using strict exit nodes, add DMM points through paypal, then buy the game. You don’t have to download it through tor because the raw download link you get after buying doesn’t check your region. Just start the download and copy the link and cookies over.

>> No.21261438

>>21261389
I don't know Russian

>> No.21261439

>>21261426
yea? i bet i'll get real good at racing if I watch inital d a lot

>> No.21261440

>>21261438
you don't have to. it's literally like 2 clicks.

>> No.21261446

>Tfw need to learn Russian in order to learn Japanese.

>> No.21261450

>>21261439
no because human interaction is a psychological thing and initial d driving is a physical thing. duh dude.

>> No.21261490

>>21261389
Download doesn't work, I give up on that game.

>> No.21261496

>>21261490
ur nihongo career depends on ur resourcefulness are u just gonna roll over like that

>> No.21261497

>>21261490
https://mega.nz/#F!qIMlzDAS!Bv53owO7Xl1SaFqaRZSR1Q

here you go my tomodati

>> No.21261501

now that u got special service u better keep us updated on ur playthrough

>> No.21261508

>>21261490
it does work and i was gonna prove it but someone else shared a mega so :)

>> No.21261509

>>21261501
should I stream myself looking every two words?

>> No.21261513

Finally got the first ending of Chinatsu's route (Bad end, as recommended by the dude who made a guide that's since been lost to the death of geocities). That was some extremely 気持ち悪い shit, but Kou sure brought it on himself.

>> No.21261514

>>21261509
yeah sure

>> No.21261515

>>21261501
>>21261497
Aight thanks man, what should I post about? you guys probably played the game already

>> No.21261518

who the fuck is chiaotzu wtf

>> No.21261524

>>21261515
ur progress and feelings

>> No.21261527

>>21261524
ok

>> No.21261534
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She alone is managing such an uncouth group of guys?

>> No.21261537

>>21261534
hey, we're playing the same vn!

>> No.21261540

>>21261537
you're going to finish it way before i do.

>> No.21261546

>>21261540
i started again because i want to do iwasawa's route

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>>21261518

>> No.21261550

>>21261546
you're gonna finish it thrice over before i get halfway.

>> No.21261553

i mean we're all gonna *finish*
eyy

>> No.21261558

>>21261550
i don't know, i still have to look up a lot of words before progressing

>> No.21261562

>>21261558
i have to look up more words than you.
>>21261553
no i won't.

>> No.21261570

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRYphZOrBfE

>> No.21261573

どーして!? ワッツ!? ホワーイ!?

>> No.21261593

some of u are convinced ur the worst here
most of us are bad perk up and enjoy ur eroge

>> No.21261600

can we all be frens?

>> No.21261601

>>21261593
i mean this thread has pretty much pushed a culture of "u cant learn nihongo ur bad stop posting" at every turn so people feel pressured to preface every post they make with "i do not know any japanese at all and am an utter fool, but here's my take"

>> No.21261602

has ja_al been posting i miss that lil guy

>> No.21261604

>>21261570
I couldn't understand this.

>> No.21261609

>>21261601
yeah but u dont have to post 3 times that someones gonna read faster than u lol

>> No.21261611

>>21261609
that wasn't me but ik lmao

>> No.21261618

>>21261570
I can understand something.
te wo tsunagou
kokoro wo tsunagou

>> No.21261622

僕らは仲間!

>> No.21261625

>>21261593
>>21261609
i'm legitimately one of the worst in this thread though. it's not just a lack of confidence. i'm going to sleep gn

>> No.21261629

>>21261622
that part too but i didn't remember what he say before nakama and didn't want to watch the video again

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21261638

>kanji for numbers

>> No.21261645

yeah?

>> No.21261647

>kanji exist
lmao

>> No.21261652

Never learned the purpose that Kanji have in the Japanese language. I just accepted it and moved on.

>> No.21261653

shineba ii noni

>> No.21261656

>>21261368
Fucking zoomers.

Lucky for you, there are modern VNs with higher resolutions that you can play:
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-ja.tagspoil-0;rfil=lang-ja.plat-win.resolution-1280x720~1920x1080;o=d;s=rating
^ Take ratings on VNDB with a fistfull of salt, by the way. Untranslated VNs are for obvious reasons often much less popular than translated ones, and because of this they receive pretty considerable penalties on their weighted ratings (a VN with 50 votes and an average rating of 7.50/10 will have an entire point shaved off its weighted score so it shows up as only 6.50/10 in the search results, and VNs with similar average ratings with less than 20 votes can show up as low as 5.**/10). VNDB really should have a separate weighting system for English translated, non-English translated, English+non-English translated, and untranslated VNs, but it doesn't and probably never will so... Another problem is stupid cunts rating VNs based on their CG sets without ever having read them, or rating them based on machine translations.

>> No.21261669

>>21261570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74wvErd60Io

damn he is now a pianist.

what the fuck did I waste my time on when I was a child.

>> No.21261679

>>21261669
being ignorant and "happy"

>> No.21261688

the absolute state of the number 4

>> No.21261697
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21261697

X ズボン
O パンツ

>> No.21261705

>>21261697
露骨

>> No.21261706

x homo
o gei

>> No.21261711

iku!!!!!!!

>> No.21261712

X RATTAT
O Ankidroning

>> No.21261715

X友達
Oホモ達

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>> No.21261773

>>21261706
idk what the difference is but i get different results on pixiv. there's also マチョ

>> No.21261783

performing a virus scan and as a result can't do eroge rn this sucks

>> No.21261791

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/antivirus-is-bad/

>> No.21261794

>>21261783
all you need to not get viruses is a good ad blocker and to not be retarded honestly.

>> No.21261808

>>21261794
i dont have any viruses i was just dling some raw manga from some shitty sites and doing an adware scan real quick. it's been a full year since my last scan lmao

>> No.21261837

>>21261071
When you have problems with a word, add it to a list that you keep on your desk. Read over the list at least once per day. Eventually you will remember them.

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where would she rank in SSK?

>> No.21261854

>>21261184
Your problem is with the passive verb, not the に.

>> No.21261861

looks like i posted in the wrong thread my tomodatis

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>>21261861
is ok tomogaki

>> No.21261929

>>21260743
This is discouraging.

Question for the "real readers" how do you know if you get things right while reading novels from the library?

>> No.21261939

>>21261929
im not always 100% sure that i'm right, but when i'm wrong, i know for sure. but i don't usually get too hung up on it and just keep going forward rather than stick on a single sentence for twenty minutes.
that having been said if something's just completely incomprehensible i just bookmark it to read later instead.

>> No.21261944

「人退」は下手なアニメです

>> No.21261955
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god damnit why are vns so hard to play?

>> No.21261965

>>21261955
if the folder it's in has a name written with japanese characters, try renaming it into english.

>> No.21261970

>>21261929
im still pretty shit but this is how i see it
its rare that somethin makes perfect sense but is wrong
rare enough that you shouldnt be worried about it
you just get varying degrees of confidence with every bit you read and over time with more exposure to the language your average level of confidence goes up and usually for the right reason
sounds like youre real early in so dont think much about it and just try try to enjoy the content in your loose understanding of it
youll notice eventually that youre more confident in more and more little bits and itll keep goin on like that

>> No.21261972

>>21261955
change your system locale also you might need to reinstall with a path that isnt fucked after

>> No.21262000

Does saying まあ before saying something
make you sound feminine?

>> No.21262007

>>21262000
cell says "まあまあだ" when i win a fight in dragon ball legends on my phone

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>>21261972
>>21261965
Tried this, its opening now (some progress!) but it closes down right away.

I'm too tired to keep trying, didn't know Japanese was this hard. Guess I'll continue tomorrow.

>> No.21262065

What does Matt do for a living actually?

>> No.21262066
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21262066

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKs-NZvxa_Q

NEW MATT

>> No.21262072

>>21262065
what do you mean lol

>> No.21262096

>>21262066
>50 minutes
>AFTER editing
c h r i s t

>> No.21262109

>>21262065
Guy's earning more than me a month only in patreon.

>> No.21262174

>>21259679
it's because ultimately shared decks are just a stepping stone to mining (unless you're SPECIFICALLY grinding for the JLPT or something like prefecture names) so how much you do them doesn't matter as long as they make it easier for you to read without resorting to an actual dictionary every single word

>> No.21262184

>>21262066
that's 50 minutes of nihongo you ain't getting back

>> No.21262188

>>21261354
do you have depression

>> No.21262191

>>21261368
>game is the size of an ant
hahaha doubt it

>> No.21262196

>>21262184
>watching AJATT videos at 1x speed
AJATTers all talk really slow. I watch all of them at 2x, except the orange haired Brit, he mumbles too much.

>> No.21262198

>>21261679
why is happy in quotes
you werent happy as a child?

>> No.21262202

>>21262007
thats a different word

>> No.21262267

脱いで写真を撮って掲載でください

>> No.21262282

speaking of the "orange haired brit" let's post some epic fucking win
https://streamable.com/ggjig

>> No.21262327

>>21262282
what an absolute fucking beast

>> No.21262332

Don't try too hard. Trying to remember words shouldn't be the main goal. The main goal of looking up words while you are reading should be so you can understand what the sentence and the story is about. Learning words is just byproduct of that(That's why I wouldn't use SRS at all, creating a card means you are trying to remember that word for some reason). So once you understand what sentence is saying, move on to the next one. The goal is to encounter and experience as many words/new words overall per day as possible.

>> No.21262335

>>21262282
>HTML + CSS
>programming

can't stop laughing

>> No.21262341

>>21262282
Man it always amazes me how deluded those guys are and how they bend the truth to make themselves look practically fluent when really they are total shitters, matt probably thinks they are too and the only reason they think they are amazing is that they compare themselves to other learners when the average learner is a braindead low functioning autist. lol @ amagami guy

>> No.21262347

>>21262341
how is he bending the truth

>> No.21262348
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21262348

Is it considered bad to use kanji tree? Ive been using it lately and I swear its accelerated my learning by ten fold. Recognition especially. It breaking down kanji into the different smaller componants in it makes it so much easier to learn that I almost feel like its cheating.

>> No.21262353

>>21262348
from what ive seen kanji tree is a much more useful version of what rtk tries to do. does it have srs?

>> No.21262359

>>21262347
I wasn't talking about him in particular because I really have no way to tell if he is a shitter (I wager he is though), but I was talking about the general state of euphoria AJATTers seem to be in pretty universally with nothing to justify it, put them in any kind of spontaneous situation with some nihongo even if it's just reading a novel and they'll break down I promise you that lol.

>> No.21262389

>>21262341
This guy is one of the few "AJATT"ers who actually learned Japanese by following it. It's not like calbin or britvsjapan. He's a strong supporter of crappy dlsite eroge demos and taking it easy with the flashcards. He's not even one of those people who's dogmatic about AJATT, he just gets mad that people discredit the input aspects of it because of all the bullshit in the rest of it.
https://streamable.com/qha01
>>21262359
He reads novels man.

>> No.21262396

>>21262389
are you his bf? you know a hell lot about him

>> No.21262399

>>21262396
No I just watched all his videos including the three hour one.

>> No.21262416

>>21262396
and you assume a lot about people without knowing about them

>> No.21262429

all those fags are learning Japanese and im stuck
fucking DJT didnt make me learn shit

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>>21262429

>> No.21262460

>>21262399
in what video he talks about his method?

>> No.21262461

>>21262072
>>21262109
I don't know I don't really follow him and was curious. Most of these guys tend to have day jobs.

3k a month as your sole income is not that great unless you're in bumfuck nowhere.

>> No.21262472

>>21262432
720 hours is nothing, I've read that and I still don't know nihongo

>> No.21262476

>>21262472
Obviously you're going to ramp up on how much time you spend per day as you become more competent. It's not that kind of math.

>> No.21262479

I don't know dude the better I have been getting the more time and effort I've diverted from consuming Japanese to shitposting on 4chan while my total consumption stays about the same.

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>>21262479
So don't do that.

>> No.21262493

My nihongo learning day would not be complete if I don't browse /djt/ a few minutes

>> No.21262510

>>21262461
he lives on his parents property and he said in one of his videos that he doesnt need any money
so the 3k a month for doin almost nothing is a pretty good life

>> No.21262512

i forgot to do aniki

>> No.21262514

did u forget to read

>> No.21262520

i only onani'd to manga

>> No.21262521

I have a super important question

Is 入ってくる another way to say "cum inside me"?

>> No.21262544

>get $3k a month + live at parents'
>don't release more than one video a month
>don't have a regular job

how does Matt manage not to put out more content on his channel and actually put content onto his own website? it should be finished by now, yet it managed to be even bigger mess than the AJATT website

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21262596

LMAO

>> No.21262601

>>21262472
>I've read that and
no you haven't

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21262605

OHNONONONO

>> No.21262610

>>21262605
how can 11 people think this was a smart and insightful post

>> No.21262616

yall be talkin shit but who else has recorded 10000 hours of flash card reviews for u to watch at ur leisure

>> No.21262622

There's a nice app for Android called Kakugo for learning kana, kanji, and vocabulary (separated into JLPT levels). You can select which kanas, kanji and words to learn.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.kaqui/

>> No.21262637

>>21262622
you can select kanas and kanjis?

>> No.21262642

>>21262622
Fuck off stupid shill.

>> No.21262646

>>21262642
get help from your nearest psychologist

>> No.21262648

>>21262646
is there a nice app for that for android

>> No.21262655

>>21262622
can you choose to learn stuff like ゐ and ゑ?

>> No.21262657

>>21262648
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.moodpath.android&hl=en

>> No.21262668

>>21262332
That's how I approach it, still in the early stages but I dropped Anki altogether. Simply read, look up and move on. The droning felt so disconnected and now I actually enjoy inputting because I don't have to fiddle with card-making all the time.

>> No.21262670
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>>21262637
Yeah, one by one or picking "select all/none" from menu. Kanji and vocabulary is split into JLPT levels, so you can select all from one level easily. Pic related.
I find it better than Anki for kana, might be also good for kanji and vocabulary.
You can learn both ways between kana and romaji, and also romaji to drawing.
For kanji there's kanji to/from reading, meaning, and also kanji composition and drawing.
Vocabulary has word to/from reading and meaning.

>>21262655
There seem to be no obsolete kana.

>> No.21262677

>nice app
>has romaji

>> No.21262721

>>21262332
>>21262668
Don't you think that even adding 5 cards a day would SIGNIFICANTLY improve your Japanese over a few years' time?

>> No.21262760

>>21262721
Using the time that you'd waste from that (on average 50 extra reviews + 5 new cards) to read would improve your nip "SIGNIFICANTLY" more than 5 more ankitard cards per day.

>> No.21262761

>>21262721
Not so sure about that, especially in a "significant" way, sure it's "only" five cards a day but that's a monster that grows over time.

Got sick of rehearsing words in isolation with one specific sentence as an example on the back. I realized just bumping into it over and over again in the wild helped me cement it for real in a more natural way.

>> No.21262767

>>21262332
>>21262668
I'm doing this myself partly, though I still have some Anki on the side because it's only 15 minutes a day and I'd feel bad stopping now.

How did you approach grammar in this method? I have read Tae Kim but nothing at all is sticking for me.I'm often reading words I think I should know but because they are in a different tense or more formal or something I don't recognize them until I search them up.

>>21262761
It really doesn't add up though. I only do 15 new cards a day and spend between 10 and 20 minutes on Anki, I can only assume 5 new cards a day would be a third of that.

>> No.21262778

>>21262767
you do bare words or sentences?

>> No.21262783

>>21262767
Na, remembering shit doesn't scale linearly most of the time.
Even that aside, keep in mind that anki only really teaches you the surface level meaning of a word, that's why people here discourage is so much.

>> No.21262785

>>21262767
I tried grammar guides in the beginning but I found it to be useless to try and cram it in beforehand, treat it the same way you do vocab, look up problems as they arise.

It won't spike quickly but you are adding new things everyday, in the long run at least some old words will be forgotten at some point, which resets them on top of new stuff, ballooning, if slowly. I just don't get much out of that isolated kind of study.

>> No.21262792

>>21262605
mattdrones exposed

>> No.21262797

who's a bigger failure Nuke or that Kalvin?

>> No.21262799

>>21260532
I'm late, but just download the JMDict. https://github.com/jrfonseca/jmdict-kindle
It's free and work really good.

>> No.21262801

>>21262778
I just do Core2k in Anki. Reading these threads has made me wish I started with VN Core but I'm a decent way in now so no point in changing decks especially when their effectiveness is so often questioned.

>>21262785
I'll just keep at it then, I imagine bits and pieces will stick eventually. It's very annoying when you know the handful of words in the sentence enough to make sense of it but don't understand anything of the grammar side. It's like having a cavemans grasp on a language.

>>21262797
You for obsessing over namefags.

>> No.21262802

>>21262761
>that's a monster that grows over time.
true, unless you get in the habit of dead-pointing cards (killing, deleting, suspending, w/e) at around a month of reviewing or less. that way it'll be solidified enough that as long as you see it in the wild within the next 3 months or so you'll be good, and cards won't build up into monster piles.

>I realized just bumping into it over and over again in the wild helped me cement it for real in a more natural way.
this is true but i've found there are some words that just don't want to fucking stick even though i've looked them up at least 4 times... i think perhaps at that point anki is useful? like exclusively using it for stubborn words that don't seem to stick.

>> No.21262810

>>21262767
>How did you approach grammar in this method?
Personally I got my head start on grammar with sentence cards mined from anime and manga. I'd break down the grammar and vocab of each sentence in one card (with an english translation when I was really a beginner). Then once I was comfortable with most common grammar I stopped and just looked up new grammar when I encountered it. Btw I didn't type that post, I copypasta'd it but the guy who did write it, did sentence cards as well in the beginning. His post was exclusively about vocab acquisition.

>> No.21262826

hey what does おにゅー mean

>> No.21262827

>>21262767
I'm doing something similar currently, and I've picked up a few words so far. I'm still doing kanji study just to be able to remember the words better. I already had basic grammar for a long time, but I picked it up from a ton of different places because I never sticked to one resource.
Nowadays, I just look up something in the grammar guide if I don't get something but usually I can understand basically every sentence I find as long as I look up words. If I have a bit of trouble, I just deduce it from context most times since I can manage to follow the plot.
Overall, with grammar I'd advice to just keep looking it up until you're used to it. You did understand TK when you read it, though? Then it's going to be fine, I guess, because you'll understand the grammar again when you look it up in case you forgot something.

>> No.21262831

>>21262826
https://jisho.org/word/御ニュー
Does that fit?

>> No.21262847

>>21262827
>You did understand TK when you read it, though?
Yeah it all makes sense to me and I understand the examples in the guide but it's just encountering words in the wild I can recognize the words in one form but the second that changes I'm fucked.
It's like being able to read the word "fuck" but being completely thrown when it's "fucking" or "fucked".
I'm starting to think this might be because 90% of the vocab I know I know from the single instance in Core2k, maybe I should drop it after all and just stick to exposure and looking everything up.

>> No.21262853

>>21262826
You reading Hanahira too? About that bitches pajamas?

>> No.21262860

>>21262847
Ding-ding-ding.
Yomichan is fantastic for looking up words as it also highlights which form the word is currently taking, making grammar easy to pinpoint.

>> No.21262874

>>21262847
My advice: Don't stress yourself. You forgot something? That's fine. Even if you forgot a lot. You're going to remember it at some point.
I don't do anki anymore myself, I do physical drills for kanji but I remember them also a lot from reading words (it works better for me physically than with anki for some reason ...). You can learn solely from exposure, yes.
Comparison of learning via exposure to a verb and learning it via anki/memorization in general:
Exposure tends to be slower. But at the same time you learn the word with a lot of different context, therefore having more of an idea what the world really means and when it's used. Also, at least I feel like it, you have more of an "abstract knowledge" of that world pretty quick, meaning if you read 翼 you think of wings instead of thinking of the english translation "wings". That makes it quicker to understand a text because you stop earlier to translate everything in your head.
Anki/memorization is very good at making you remember precise information (unless you do something with image cards, like 翼 on the front and a picture of wings on the back, but you can't do that for every word so it's kinda annoying to me), and it tends to work quicker. You don't have a lot of context until you read it though, so sometimes it can be a bit confusing, I guess.

>> No.21262897

>>21262831
>>21262853

yeah I guess they were new pajamas

>> No.21262931

>>21262847
yeah this problem goes away on its own trust me just keep reading

>> No.21262994

>>21262642
From the fdroid page:
>Open source
>No ads
>No internet access required

I'd hardly call that shilling material. The only thing the developer gets from more users is experience and credit.

>> No.21263035

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vMJdjoQAOc

これを見て自分を磨き上げる!

>> No.21263052

>>21262826
メニュー?

>> No.21263183

what is the website that rank VNs by word frequency?

>> No.21263186

>>21262760
>>21262761
>5 cards taking too long
Everyone that hates on Anki isn’t using it right and these posts prove it. A few tips to keep anki ~20 minutes per day despite having hundreds of reviews:
1. Keep cards super simple so you can rep them fast. Keep expressions/definitions very short, so no sentence cards.
2. Do every card under 6s using this addon:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1046608507
3. Delete/suspend/mature cards when their intervals pass 1 month (or less). I like to reschedule them for 7000-9000 days in the future which is just as good as deleting but they’re set as mature and I can remember I learned them already.
4. Leech cards early and often at 4-5 lapses. If you fail that much just move on and hope it will click from reading eventually. If you care about every little card that’s how you get obsessive and make anki take forever.
5. Use low key anki but only with ResetEZ and NoPenaltiesOrBoosting since the other ones aren’t compatible with the speed addon.
6. Make sure everything you need to know is on your card when you add it so you’re not googling stuff during reviews.

>> No.21263195

>>21263186
>Delete/suspend/mature cards when their intervals pass 1 month (or less)
>1 month (or less)
lol

>> No.21263200

>>21260609
I'm into scientific and philosophical thought experiments, which is why I've happened to find this one to my liking:
www.youtube.com/channel/UCf8arBDjvsjcoFyMVuB1YEg

>> No.21263206

>>21263195
i don’t get it

>> No.21263213

>>21263186
>Delete/suspend/mature cards when their intervals pass 1 month (or less).
I'm all for suspending cards after a while, but 1 month is not a good point to do this. Cards with > 1 year probably, but not before that.

>> No.21263221

Please forgive my stupidity but I'm struggling to get my VN hooker to paste into Chrome.

I'm using Textractor which seems to be working, as well as a Clipboard Inserter on Chrome and I think that is working too as it did insert onto a pastebin website, but it doesn't do anything on the downloaded htmls from the guide.

Anyone use this setup? Is it obvious what I am doing wrong?

>> No.21263234

>>21263206
I think it's because cards mature when their interval is one month or more, so a card with an interval of less than a month can't be mature

>> No.21263246

>>21263221
switch to firefox and use nazeka's built in reader

>> No.21263281

>>21263186
>5. Use low key anki but only with ResetEZ and NoPenaltiesOrBoosting since the other ones aren’t compatible with the speed addon.
Don't need to do this, just 1) set your default interval to 130% 2) set your interval modifier to something like 190% or 200% 3) reset the ease of all your cards to 130% in the card viewer 4) never press the "Easy" button. if you know a word just suspend it

>> No.21263285

>>21263213
Maybe it should be longer. I’m not sure really since I haven’t done the math on how the reviews build up and what saves the most time. If it’s a really common word though you don’t really need to keep it that long since chances are you’ll see it so many times before you get to it’s 1 month review it’s not even worth. If you’re adding moderately uncommon words maybe it should be different. The scenario I’m thinking of is adding a ton of words, 40+ per day for a month or so and how to sustain that for over a month.

>>21263234
>>21263195
I met mature as in set it to mature by rescheduling it to have a huge interval.

>> No.21263334

ちょろめはゲームするためのもの

ブラウザではない

>> No.21263354
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21263354

>substituting phonetic components for katakana
I heard about this but still, this fucking language.

>> No.21263368

Is it a normal thing when the subject / person who does something is said at the end? I mean, I understand it, but is it some kind of special construct with a name? Example, ランガ is a person here:
>突然何も無いような場所から取り出した刃ムササビ――ジャルム――と水熊――ウォーターベア――の毛皮に驚愕の表情を浮かべるランガ。

>> No.21263377

>>21263368
X, doing/being Y

>> No.21263380

>>21263368
Appears fairly often in VNs, just a form of giving a description I guess.

>> No.21263390

>>21263380
Okay, thanks. It's in a LN/web novel. I understand it so it's fine I guess

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21263454

Are there any exceptions to this?

>> No.21263461

>>21263368
とうちほう?とかじゃない

さいごにだすほうを強調する

ぶんぽう?しゅほう?

>> No.21263491

>>21263246
Whats better about nazeka compared to yomi

>> No.21263549

>>21262931
thanks for being so sweet

>> No.21263566

>>21263334
>I'm beginning to understand these kind of shitposts
命はいいね

>> No.21263576
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21263576

You should be able to choose correctly.

>> No.21263581

>>21262544
thanks for posting this. i checked his patreon and his earnings are about $400 higher than they were a few months ago, meaning he's on the upswing.

>> No.21263583

>>21263195
>Delete/suspend/mature cards when their intervals pass 1 month (or less)
>1 month (or less)
>lol
what's funny about that? its a good idea imo.
looking back, i've always been very 気まぐれ with anki. it was rare for a word to reach an interval of >3 months before i deleted the whole deck and started over lol. yet as long as i saw those words in the wild at least within the next few months after that, i could remember it just fine.
a large majority of my anki-assisted vocab was never reviewed for more than 2 months yet here i am, still knowing those words because reading/listening kept them alive after the initial incubation period.
keeping cards for eternity is usually overkill. it's like keeping an already-hatched chick in the incubator for like 10 more months. if anything you're stunting its growth at that point

>> No.21263587

>>21263491
it's faster and it's actually maintained

>> No.21263590

>>21262655
yomichan pronounces these い and え but wtf is the point in pronouncing them that way?

>> No.21263597

>>21263213
one year is way too long and unnecessary. that means you really don't trust the power of reading/input if you think you have to keep studying a word that long for it to stay alive

>> No.21263616

>>21263354
cute haha

>> No.21263623

good kill point is probably 3 months imo but I don't use anki

>> No.21263624

>>21263368
>Is it a normal thing when the subject / person who does something is said at the end?
yes i've seen this type of construction quite often.

>> No.21263646

>>21263576
A,B ?

>> No.21263648

The true benefit of mining with Anki is to review a word a couple of times to separate it out from the sea of unmemorable dictionary lookups you did throughout the day. Just review it 5-6 times to give it a kickstart in your memory and let reading take it from there. Anki should not be a long term memory bank.

>> No.21263667

>>21263624
Thanks, wanted to make sure that it wasn't some weird quirk. Did you ever see it used in conversation or is it more of a literature thing?

>> No.21263709

>>21263576
A, C

>> No.21263710

>>21263667
don't overthink it

>> No.21263765

>>21263183
google wareya's site and moogy's site (tlwiki or some shit)

>> No.21263770

>>21263200
>subtitles
neat, thanks.

>> No.21263776

>>21263221
sometimes you have to update what's in your clipboard by copying something else, then recopying the line from textractor (remember you can just highlight the line in textractor by dragging your cursor and it automatically goes into your clipboard). try turning clipboard inserter on and off and then updating what's in your clipboard if that alone doesn't work.

>> No.21263777

Ok I give up on trying to install Axanael, what are some other good first timer VNs for epic nihongo gains?

>> No.21263781

>>21263221
In the (eg) chrome extension settings, enable yomi to work on lokal files

>> No.21263786

>>21263777
get a good pc first

>> No.21263794

>>21263777
didn't change your locale and cancel the softdenchi runtime huh.

>> No.21263797

>>21263794
I did change my locale, but what is softdenchi?

>> No.21263803

>>21263797
>>/jp/thread/16533488#p16540535
just guess if you can't read. randomly cancel some dialogue box that appears.

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>>21263803
Like this one?

>> No.21263818

You said you changed your locale wtf...

>> No.21263821

>>21263810
How long before I can read Japanese like that?

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>>21263818
>>21263821

I already fucking changed my locale.

>> No.21263832

>>21263825
LOL

>> No.21263836

>>21263825
you have to change "language for unicode programs" baka

>> No.21263838

この湖にはここにしかいないという生物がおり、その数たるや50種類を超える。

i'm never gonna understand という how the fuck was i supposed to know it meant something like "that" here. it just reads like "animals called only here". what in the fuck?

>> No.21263855

>>21263825
>screen capping the bit that clearly shows you haven't instead of just the bit "you think" is relevant
Very poor bait. 1/10.

>>21263776
>>21263781
I've just settled for a "pastebin.com/raw" site and an auto scroll addon for now, it does exactly what it should so the problem is with the clipboard importer not working with local files I would guess. I'll look into it more later.

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>>21263836

>> No.21263869

>>21263859
now reboot
if it doesn't work, then throw your pc into the trash

>> No.21263883

soon bros
anyone excited for reiwa?

>> No.21263900

Just use locale emulator instead of dealing with ¥ and shit

>> No.21263904

recommend me some porn artists that are easy to read for a beginner. i like femdom

>> No.21263935

>>21263904
kys

>> No.21263937

>すごい
>meaning 1. terrible, dreadful
>meaning 2. amazing, great
Languages are dumb for shit like this, Japanese included.

>> No.21263936

Ok just post Jamal's vn list, I don't think Axanael is fucking worth it anyways. I'll go play something else that is not a bitch to install.

>> No.21263949

>>21263935
i probably will eventually but first i need to cum in japanese

>> No.21263954

>>21263937
terrific

>> No.21263960

How does DJT read this? ��

>> No.21263981

>>21263954
As I said, languages are dumb. That's a pretty poor example since the negative connotation is no longer used. People still say shit like "great disaster" and "great meal" though.

>>21263960
Japanese doesn't have question marks so it would be かか. Like the footballer.

>> No.21263994

>>21263960
puto

>> No.21263997

if you’re a boomer who can’t use computers you’re not going to make it
just google your problem and read how to fix it

>> No.21264022

>>21263997
I'm not a boomer I swear, is the fucking game's fault.

>> No.21264030

>>21263997
>a boomer who can’t use computers
Mate young people can't use computers. We have gone from computers being new and only understood by those who grew up with DOS and shit understanding how everything works and how to actually use them to the most streamlined programs or "apps" so that your nan can send a message on facebook but have no idea how to do anything else.
It's like learning a language vs memorizing phrases in a tourist handbook. The majority of people just memorize the phrases rather than actually learn how to construct them.
>>21264022
It's societies fault. Try "Locale Emulator" it's much simpler and in my experience has worked with everything, though there are undoubtedly exceptions. You just have to right click and open as Japanese then.

>> No.21264079

windows babbies will never learn japanese

>> No.21264105

>>21263838
animals that are said to be only here

>> No.21264106

>>21264079
you say that but you can’t even create epic anime cards lol

>> No.21264110

>>21264105
if you've just uttered the phrase that will unlock という for me then i appreciate it.

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>>21264030
Oh shit is not showing diamonds anymore.

>> No.21264137

>>21264120
good job idiot

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>>21264137
love you guys

>> No.21264183

you motherfucker better keep us updated

>> No.21264347

ぬっと
seriously? what about all the other fucking words for "suddenly"? fuck this gay ass language

>> No.21264359

>>21264347
hey, fuck you too buddy

>> No.21264380

>>21264347
ふと
きゅうに

>> No.21264382

>>21264359
nihongo has spoken

>> No.21264435
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21264435

We doing Anki tips? HUGE advice coming through: set your Interval Modifier to 150%

>> No.21264449

>>21264435
no it'll be harder to remember my cards and my retention rate is already like 70%

>> No.21264474

>>21264449
>pretending to be a retard just to disagree with me

>> No.21264476

>>21264474
what?

>> No.21264484

>>21264476
what?

>> No.21264626

>>21259402
Is the core2k/6k a meme then?

>> No.21264650

>>21264626
Seriously speaking? Yeah, the words in there are taken out of more mature media that you will not see in the immature media we usually consume over here, while VNCore prepares you with just enough so you can probably skip couple of sentences here and there, core2k/6k will give you tons of useless stuff that you will forget once you start reading novels or playing games.

>> No.21264666

>>21264650
I'm wondering because I started the 2k grind last year for a month but had to stop because homelessness issues. Now I got my life sorted and straightened out I decided to jump in again. I saw there are two guides, is there a reason for the new one?

>> No.21264698

>>21264666
New school of thinking, if we are just going to learn Japanese to read manga/LN/VNs and watch anime without subs, then why are we trying to learn more mature words?

And also, RTK fucking sucks in the long run, so you might as well learn kanas, some words, and start playing or reading or watching or whatever the fuck you want.

Right now there are two kind of people, you have the anti-anki people that say you should not use cards to learn stuff and learn it in a more natural way, and then you have the other side that believes that making anime cards is the best way to learn shit.

>> No.21264700

>>21264626
>>21264666
You'll get more or less the same outcome if you go through the core2k as you will by going through the VN core1250 if you only plan on consuming otaku media. It'd honestly be more useful to learn kanji + readings if you've already got most basic vocabulary down. Otherwise, you'd have to struggle with learning a mixture of new words + new kanji for both old words and new words.

>> No.21264715

>>21264698
>>21264700
Thanks, right now I only care about the Otaku shit, I might want to go into depth in the future. My issues are my retention is poor and kanji just looks like scribbles to me

>> No.21264760

Another one fell for the RATTATA scam

>> No.21264766

the way I learn words now is through the anime card method. when i review, i see the word, and I try to connect it to the picture / sentence on the back of the card. this helps me remember it much easier.

>> No.21264771

Anyone got good reading and listening material for nonweebs?

>> No.21264776

the way i learn words is reading and listening, and i mine words which i've started to notice. this may be less efficient than anime cards but it's less annoying to mine words this way.

>> No.21264779

>>21264771
The Tangoristo app

>> No.21264795

>>21264715
>my retention is poor
How bad? What kind of cards are you doing?

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I put maymays on my cards to help me remember stuff

>> No.21264801

>>21264760
>the RATTATA scam
Please no. I'm already insecure and indecisive enough that I need 3-4 people to confirm I am doing the right thing before I start, please don't sew seeds of doubt.

>>21264776
>i mine words which i've started to notice
What do you mean by this? Words you've had to search a number of times? Also how do you make cards of them exactly?

>> No.21264808

>>21264801
>Words you've had to search a number of times?
yea, to help solidify it.
>Also how do you make cards of them exactly
i press the green + button in yomichan and it automatically generates a card.

>> No.21264815

>>21264808
I meant what do you have on the card exactly. Just like >>21264797 without the picture and second reading?

>> No.21264817

>>21264797
>とめる
>to stop (something e.g. a machine)
Not gonna make it

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>>21264801
I'm just kidding, I'm actually doing RATTATA myself, I just wanted to bait some easily angerable people in this thread that I shall not name. In my opinion the only two methods to ebin nihongo are RATTATA and AJATT. Anything else is bullshit scam.

Also, be careful to not mistake v2k with vncore.

>> No.21264822

>>21264815
yea. includes audio too although i don't really care about it.

>> No.21264840

Only thing you need to learn Japanese is a computer, nothing else, if anyone asks you for money run away they lying (ie. JPOD101)

Optional things to boosto ur ebin nihongo:

>e-reader to be able to read books without fucking up your eyes
>a 3ds/psvita to play ebin vns in the train
>a cat to pet when ankidroning.
>a dog (optional you can jog by yourself if u want) to run with so you can forget all the bully you receive from DJT
>a gym membership so you can get /fit/ for your future trip to Japan and score some cute jap puss

>> No.21264850

>>21264795
Core2k/6k
It was fine for a week, but eventually the Kanji got super complicated it was difficult to remember the words, + meaning based off of the Kanji. I lowered it to about 5 new cards a day, but then it hit to a point where I spent so much time on review that I was drained mentally before I got to new cards.

I started taking notes but it only helped a little. I tried asking my friends whom had an easier time learning kanji, but they all can read chinese so it makes sense why they picked it up quicker since they know the meaning just looking at the symbol.

>> No.21264880

>>21264850
You could try the lazy kanji deck if you want. It's only 1000 and you can do a ton a day https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-1/practice/lazy-kanji/

>> No.21264900

>>21264850
setting new cards to show before reviews may help you, i struggled similarly early on in anki too but really if you just stick to it your brain will slowly become better at remembering the shit so dont worry too much and ganbatte. consistency is key

>> No.21264926

>>21264880
I'll try this. All these methods are blurring out what should be my starting line.
>>21264900
I was trying to keep at it and hope that by setting it 100s of time I would simply just get it.
What do you mean by setting new cards to show? Do the new cards before review? I feel like in the long run that would leave my review deck huge with more going in short term than leaving

>> No.21264934

>>21264850
When I started I did like 1000 lazy kanji then core 2k and it started getting tough for me once I started seeing kanji I hadn't seen in my lazy kanji deck. If you aren't familiar with kanji at all, when you see a new word, getting your brain used to its kanji, its reading, the meaning of the word, plus the other kanji in that word and its reading/meaning is way too difficult to do all at the same time. Best to do some lazy kanji like >>21264880 says. Once you do that core and mining will be a lot easier. All you have to remember when learning a new word is the reading and meaning. Also some of the advice here >>21263186 is good.

>> No.21264952

The fuck happened to itazuraneko site?
Why does this faggot keep changing shit? It was practically perfect and he went over and ruined it

>> No.21264979

>>21264934
Thanks for the advice, I'll start the 100 lazy kanji

>> No.21265001

>>21264952
having everything on the main page is a good change though don't bully

>> No.21265017

>>21264952
I'm sure he's legitimately autistic. I don't know how to find it anymore, but the wall of text he wrote when he ragequit DJT forever in a temper tantrum said it all.

>> No.21265019

>>21264797
stop calling random images "maymays" faggot

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21265027

Are there enough to practice japanese?

>> No.21265030

>>21264817
>I will stop my computer
>I will turn down my computer.

>> No.21265031

>>21265027
it's a sign of dekinai. hoarding resources to make you feel like you're gonna learn japanese

>> No.21265032

>>21265027
>captura de pantalla

>> No.21265035

>>21264952
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/index2.html go here for the last one

>> No.21265041

>>21265032
vete a la mieda hijo de puto

>> No.21265043

>>21265031
they're some games I got from subekei, gotta play them with an OCR dictionary, maybe I finally find something I care about to practice japanes that I give a fuck.

>> No.21265057

>>21264797
I want to bully her.

>> No.21265081

>>21264715
>kanji just looks like scribbles to me
Learn the kanji radicals/components. Those are the things kanji are made of.
Like this: 日(sun) and 月(moon) together are 明(bright). The meaning doesn't always add up, though, that's just an example. But when you know the radicals, kanji aren't a mess but rather a heap of radicals smashed together.
Also, watch this for a bit of info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOj4zOcNdak

>> No.21265091

>>21264840
>>a gym membership so you can get /fit/ for your future trip to Japan and score some cute jap puss

I bought myself a home gym with my Christmas/birthday money. I do my Anki reps while resting between sets.

>> No.21265098

http://drhell.web.fc2.com/ps1/
Someone just linked me to this and I read it without thinking. I'm learning how old gaming hardware works at a low level in Japanese. and I just... I just understand it.

https://streamable.com/ggjig

>> No.21265099

So my piper Akira arrived today

She does look as good as in the pictures
But that insert is so small it's pretty much unusable
Imagine a 30kg lolinco

Literally wasted 1500$

>> No.21265103

lol

>> No.21265104

>>21265091
based

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>Well yes, I do my Anki reps in between sets, how did you know?

>> No.21265128

i want to be fit to impress jap girls but is so fucking hard to stop eating junk food and sugar...

>> No.21265132

It's easy, just stop buying it

>> No.21265139

get a fecal matter transplant

>> No.21265144

>>21265108
That is basically me, except pale, balding, can't grow a beard, fat, and no muscles. Maybe I'll look slightly better by next year.

>>21265128
You don't have to stop eating it, just eat less. For most people, I think the most important thing is to stop drinking calories. Water only.

>> No.21265145

Tip other than retarded "Just stop eating lol".

Buy protein shakes, the lower the carb the better, aslo protein bars too, be aware of the ones they load with sugar too.

Eat a protein shake and a protein bar for you breakfast and dinner, and eat a good, non-junk food meal at noon. if you feel hungry either drink another shake or a bar (not both).

Try to never go past 1000 calories per day, at the beginning it might be hard to obtain, but after 2-3 months you will lose a good amount of weight to boost your mood and you will start feeling full all the time.



this post has everything to do with nihongo learning.

>> No.21265188

>>21265145
Only 1000 calories per day?
Isn't that too low?

>> No.21265201

>>21265188
you have to reset buddy, 1000 is low yeah, you might feel like shit. But remember that not eating at your weight will not kill you.

>> No.21265202

>>21265188
eat plant food.

>> No.21265216

>>>/fit/

>> No.21265229

lol bro that advice is like the duolingo of fit, just fast for a week and you’ll lose more than doing that for a month

>> No.21265299

redpill me on all gym all the time

>> No.21265305

>>21265299
makes you feel good about yourself apparently

>> No.21265315

someone pls post some gym tips so i can add them to anki, want to make sure i know what i'm doing before i exercise...
trying to become a himbo by the end of the year.

>> No.21265319

fill me in on lift all the time and take steroids

>> No.21265336

should i bother with remember the muscles or just learn it naturally through exercise?

>> No.21265351

do you recall the location of the muscle from the name or the name of the muscle from the location

>> No.21265355

What's your opinion on playing eroge while lifting?

>> No.21265366

>>21265315
Use the Starting Strength Anki deck on correct form. Start a month before you go to the gym.

>> No.21265377

what's reverse romaji called (spelling english with katakana)

>> No.21265380

>>21265355
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18675269
I unironically do my reps between sets because I mine animes with cute waifus so looking at the pics on the back of my anime cards during reps boosts my test and increases my gains.

>> No.21265393

>>21263825
Just use Locale Emulator. I installed the game last night, no problem.

>> No.21265441

i’m about to pass 5k cards 褒めてくれ

>> No.21265450

>>21265441
Yeah, but how many eroge have you finished so far?

>> No.21265459

>>21265441
premade?

>> No.21265460

>>21265441
How many unique kanji?

>> No.21265506

I got interviewed by Steve Kaufmann this morning.
He basically poopooed the idea of trying to actually get good at languages. I think I gave a pretty good argument, but then he cut it off and said we should wrap things up.
I was super taken aback because I thought the interview was going to be a lot more friendly. He had a combative tone, even though I think I was pretty chill and "everyone has different goals, we can all live together happily" in my attitude
He was like "most people don't have more than 1 hour a day to spend on languages" haha
I understand that Steve has different goals, and I think that's totally fine, but I was surprised that he showed such disapproval against the idea of actually trying to get good. he gave lip serve to the idea that "everyone has different goals", but his attitude clearly showed that he thinks its stupid to be ambitious
the funny thing is that we pretty much didn't have any real disagreements when it comes to methods

Fresh off discord from m*tt-sama

First quizmaster, now Steve, who will be BTFO next?

>> No.21265511

>>21265441
已むなし。褒めて進ぜるが善い

>> No.21265518

>>21265506
Matts concept of getting "good" at a language is also retarded though. For him and his cult its basically the attempt to be a native.

Personally this is not my goal at all.

>> No.21265520

>>21265506
Sounds like that interview between m*tt and the wife of j*panese-from-zero-guy

>> No.21265530

Is there a word for "addict" in Japanese? As in, someone who's a maniac or something or an otaku for a certain thing? eg: lolicon addict

>> No.21265532

Why learn japanese if you won't move there?

>> No.21265539

>>21265530
I know this is hard to believe, but the Japanese word for otaku is otaku.

>> No.21265547

>>21265539
Yeah, but you wouldn't call a drug addict a drug otaku, would you?

>> No.21265552

>>21265506
For a second I thought that's the grocery store copypasta.

>> No.21265557

>>21265450
0, i just do anime manga and youtube rn
>>21265459
I stopped core at 1500 and switched to mining. Although if I’m reading and I’m going to mine a word but it’s already in core most of the time I just move the core card into the mining deck to save time. ~2k cards aren’t premade.
>>21265460
2124

>> No.21265561

>>21265532
why would i want to

>> No.21265573

>>21265532
I like Japanese fiction, not real-life Japanese people.

>> No.21265576

>>21265557
>2124
oops my settings were wrong, it’s actually 1273

>> No.21265588

>>21265576
>1273
That's way too low

>> No.21265600

>>21265108
>>21265091
I do this but in a commercial gym, got a lot of girls coming up asking me what "those weird symbols" mean. I had no idea my loli fetish would get me this close to actual women.

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>see matt mentioned constantly in this thread
>people either love him or hate him
>watched a couple of his vids
>I like it, he makes some good points
>watch his "learn japanese guide" video
>says 1 hour of meditation a day is VITAL
>insists on RTK

I get it now. He's autistic.

>> No.21265634

>>21265588
when i see a new word with a kanji i don’t know i usually add like 3 words with it to make it stick better

>> No.21265636

>>21265613
Alright but who exactly are you quoting?

>> No.21265639

>>21265506
If the conversation goes directly as Matt is describing it then I could understand being frustrated. Perhaps Steve is a cranky old fart. However I wonder if Matt was being hyper autistic and overemphasizing how great it is to become native level despite very very few people on earth giving a rat's ass, to which Steve's pushback would make sense.

>> No.21265646

>>21265636
It's self referential quoting. I am quoting my life, so to speak.

>> No.21265647

>>21265532
this
>>21265573
japs kinda suck ass. white people are awesome.

>> No.21265652

>>21265646
No such thing. Please write normally next time.

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>>21265647
Real people suck in general.

>> No.21265664

>>21265652
>being this autistic

>> No.21265667

>>21265652
>No such thing.
Of course there is, have you never been on this website before? Please learn some local dialect before you tell me I am wrong.

>> No.21265670

>>21265664
>>21265667
>>>/int/
>>>/v/
>>>/out/

>> No.21265671

>>21265547
yes

>> No.21265683

>>21265539
>>21265547
All I'm really asking is do Japanese ever use the word "addict" (in katakana) for anything? Does it have the same kinda connotation over here? eg: That guy's a total comic book addict.

>> No.21265685

>>21265639
Steve always says accent doesn't matter, as long as you are understood. And he doesn't think pitch accent is important at all. Even if they agree on the method (listening and reading), their goals are too different.

I love Steve's videos, but I'm not looking forward to watching it, I'm sure it will be a cringefest.

>> No.21265688

>>21265670
>he can't just make the shitpost and move on with his life
>he has to go all in

>> No.21265689

私わ話して日本語でも私できないですそれで子にちは

>> No.21265698

>>21265613
I get that but why do people here hate /r/LearnJapanese so much?

>> No.21265708

>>21265688
Who are you quoting?

>> No.21265710

>>21265613
his browser bookmarks are sorted so that their favicons make a rainbow

>> No.21265723

>>21265698
>hate /r/LearnJapanese
I see a lot of hate for that place here too. Don't really get it. Everyone there is pretty high level.

>> No.21265727

>>21265698
It represents your usual online language learning community pretty well. Swathes of people who predictably will never learn this language and then want to be praised for every single step they take. It's deplorable.

Also they have a shitty obsession with trying to show off their Kanji handwriting despite not knowing any Japanese, which probably stems from the fact that a lot of them only wanted to "learn" Japanese because they think Chinese hieroglyphs are cool.

>> No.21265756

>>21265727
From the little I've seen in that community some of them swear that using Japanese media to help learn will irreversibly ruin your Japanese permanently.

>> No.21265774

>>21265659
including yourself? or no?

>> No.21265775

>>21265723
>Everyone there is pretty high level.
if theres truth to the shit ive seen posted here about it there are just a bunch of n4s that roleplay as high level that everyone respects because they post a lot and are confident

>> No.21265791

>>21265685
running away from cringe is running away from yourself

>> No.21265793

>>21265532
japan is such a mess to get into to begin with
you need a bachelors or 10 years of work experience for the work visa
fuck that

>> No.21265796

>>21265775
its really not any different than here only theres more brazen fresh noobies posting dumb questions there

>> No.21265797

>ban a couple of shitposters
>threads have twice less posts upon sinking
based mods

>> No.21265800

>>21265796
no one here seriously believes others to be high level

>> No.21265801

>>21265756
how do they justify that one

>> No.21265807

>>21265797
i'm still kicking so there's more work to do but this is a good start.

>> No.21265812

>>21265506
>He basically poopooed the idea of trying to actually get good at languages.
from many things he's said in his videos, i got this impression for sure and this just proves it more. like when he said "japanese is easy" after knowing only like 1000 vocab words and admitting he "reads" using "the meanings of kanji" without caring about the reading.
basically a dekinai pretending to be dekiru and getting people to fall for it because he speaks confidently.

>> No.21265813

>>21265801
what if u speak like an anime character ull never learn to be polite if u dont do ur genki properly from the start

>> No.21265824

>>21265796
Hi fellow れづとす! ! こにちわ!!!!ww I have been studying Kana for the past 8 months an am finally ready for some Grammer! *Grammar. What is a good video game I can play to learn? I want to play Devil May Cry in Japanese. Can I do it with my knowledge? ばいばい

I know

>> No.21265830

>>21265813
well if you're retarded enough to speak like a 12yo girl irl you deserve it
then again it's r*ddit, they are literally that retarded

>> No.21265836

>>21265793
>japan is such a mess to get into
>you need a bachelors
....a bachelors degree is not difficult to get

>> No.21265838

>>21265813
>Speaking slang
vs
>Robotic textbook Japanese
Either case if you know the language enough you'll obviously know the difference between formal and informal.What are they thinking? Someone is going to purely use DBZ for practice?

>> No.21265845

>>21265793
I could probably easily move to Japan but unless the opportunity is good I don't see a reason to try.

>> No.21265854

>>21265775
There are a couple of decently good posters there I guess, but they're about as rare as someone who actually speaks Japanese in here.

The main difference is that people here are not delusional about how much they know usually.

>> No.21265855

>>21265836
>4 years
>depending on where you go, huge amounts of debt
and you have to think of what to even major in

>> No.21265856

>>21265854
>main difference is that people here are not delusional about how much they know usually

hahahahahahhahahahahahahhaa

>> No.21265858

Did Matt ever get a native Jap to take JCAT like he said he intended to?

>> No.21265862

>>21265830
>>21265838
impression i got is that they think if you watch anime youll actually be too stupid to understand that you shouldnt say temee and kusottare to your boss
imagining that they even know what formal means is giving too much credit

>> No.21265867

Anyone got a good mnemonic for remembering 軽い and 辛い?
I always mix those two up.

>> No.21265876

>>21265824
They can't be that bad right?

>> No.21265877

>>21265867
i don't

>> No.21265880

お元気ですか

>> No.21265886

>>21265858
he's too busy working and his website and channel to do stuff

>> No.21265888

>>21265867
i made something up for you just now
からい is closer to カレー than かるい is

>> No.21265890

https://youtu.be/j3yb8fccdkc

>> No.21265893

>>21265838
Japanese is like German, you always start with the polite speech. You don't need to talk like a customer service person but the basic textbook language is what people actually use with people they don't know.

>> No.21265897

>>21265867
車 radical in KARui.

>> No.21265902

>Have weeb friend
>Can speak Japanese very well
>Always uses Watakushi
Fucking why though?

>> No.21265904

>>21265897
you just made me suffer imagining that gaijin pronunciation

>> No.21265907

>>21265897
>>21265888
the difference is that one has an u and one has an a sound.
I can remember which means which when I see the kanji but I just can't remember which has ra and which has ru.

>> No.21265908

Are there any examples of people who have learned Japanese from pure immersion? All I can find are people that have done lots and lots of immersion but also a considerable amount of Anki or some other SRS method.

>> No.21265910

>>21263646
this

>> No.21265912

>>21265902
He's trying to be glorious Steve.

>> No.21265913

>>21265907
Radishes are hot

>> No.21265914

>>21265907
read more

>> No.21265916

>>21265908
Moogy claims to have never SRS'd and he translates now.

>> No.21265917

>>21265908
I know a guy in his sixties who has a Japanese wife. He moved to Japan in the late 70s for a while and didn't study but just travelled the countryside and talked to elderly people a lot.

This is about as much circumstancial evidence as I have.

>> No.21265937

>>21265867
>>21265907
辛い has a much harsher higher sound. らい is easy to associate with harshness or pain. 軽い is light and fluid, you can visualize the sound of るい going up and down smoothly, starting at the r sound, down to る, back up to い.

>> No.21265939

>>21265907
軽い means light, it is the K in K-ON for Light Music. Who is best girl in K-ON? Ui of course.
辛い means spicy. Imagine a Mexican eating a paper and yelling AYE AYE AYE THAT'S SPICY!

t. Heisig

>> No.21265943

>>21265939
Pepper, not paper.

>> No.21265948

>>21265908
I mean pure 100% immersion can probably let you learn to speak but reading and writing...needs studying. I believe one study said it's minimal 6 months of pure immersion to learn how to speak a language. Just speak though.

>> No.21265955

>>21265939
This actually makes sense to me as a Spanish speaker, because "caray!" (which means something like "Oh fuck!") sounds like "辛い".

>> No.21265966

>>21265907
う for 薄い
あ for 暑い

>> No.21265975

>>21265775
All the people who actually know their stuff usually stick to that weekly question thread they have. It's pretty much the only thing worth reading on that entire subreddit.

>> No.21265977

>>21265966
Ok, this is the best by far, thanks.

>> No.21265981

https://youtu.be/47kqS90y8Ig?t=559

AJATT isn't about learning Japanese. It's about giving you the hunger to learn in general. It's a journey of learning. Such an amazing philosophy.

>> No.21266061

"All Japanese All The Time" isn't about Japanese. Sounds as stupid as the los angeles angels

>> No.21266125

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mAdzPcxBio

He's lost me here. If I am only looking up a word every 3 minutes then I'm going to be passing by many many lines of text in which I have like 5% comprehension at best. How is that going to teach me anything? I don't get it.

>> No.21266155

>>21266125
>He's lost me here. If I am only looking up a word every 3 minutes then I'm going to be passing by many many lines of text in which I have like 5% comprehension at best.

Matt has actually little clue what advice to give to absolute beginners. Reason is that he can't even reconstruct how he did his early language learning himself. Evidently it was much more textbook based than what he is advising people to do though. And who knows what methods he actually used when he was eating his bento on the toilet.

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