/jp/ - Otaku Culture

If you post in here it means you have given up on learning Japanese do not post in here

Stop lying to me, japanese podcast 101 and learning tons of grammar is the true way to epic nihongo.

>anybody who thinks passive listening is effective

>>21223400
So you've read motto debutopia already too? Go with this then https://vndb.org/v6254

Why did you tell me to stop doing flashcards you fucks? I used to read and do flashcards and made epic nihongo gains. Now I just read and it doesn't feel like I am making any progress.

*Muffled Pokemon noises*

>>21223427
if u wanted to go for the throat u shouldnt went with that in the 1st place tho i still wouldnt do it

>>21223429
>listening to /djt/
>ever

shouldve*

>>21223431
no e-celeb shit

>>21223414
interacting with your content, exposure to the language in general, and owning it mentally is how you'll get good, it's a reoccurring theme in those that got proficient

>>21223437
>>21223432
should have gone


"have went" is wrong, "went" is the simple past, not the past participle

>>21223429
you can catch back up on them you know and the time off, if used wisely, was probably good for you too

/det/

cute op dude

I'm just over 300 words into Core2k and in terms of Grammar I have just been watching this cuteys videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC90Tf3fQo8

When should I start reading? Should I finish all the grammar in Tae Kim's guide first? Does that include all 200 plus pages? Or just the basics section? Or should I just finish the 50~ videos in this girls series?

>>21223447
whatever nerdo

>>21223484
Damn she was super cute back in the days. I try to break up my immersion with some lessons like that. They give my brain a semi-break. You can only focus so much.

>>21223455
>>21223441

Hey Matt.

>>21223504
>my serious studying is a break to you
o-ok

>>21223523
Man is that a joke post? This is some retarded shit.

>>21223523
your handwriting ... you really write like that? Not just Japanese, but English.

>>21223429
Delete all your old and busted cards and do anime cards.
>>21209313

>>21223523
You'll get there if you keep pushing yourself bro, we all started out like that.

>>21223523
>naifu to fuooku
cute

>>21223523
おにいちゃん

めがいいね、それパソコンフォント

かくときは教科書体っていうフォントをつかうことになっているよ

>>21223504
stop saying immersion its fucking gay

>>21223565
Why when it explains what I mean perfectly?

かきとりー

"you must never forget your love for anime, your love for manga. Never. It is right and it is good and it is healthy" - Jesus Christ our lord

>>21223609
Is it ok if I started out on anime, but prefer real-life Japanese shows now?

I'm gonna make it

>>21223431
トイレなのになんで食べ物の匂いがするんだいここ？

あっまたあのハゲ外人が子供向けアニメを見ながら便所飯してるのか。あいつ変だ。

>>21223540
Yes it is very poor. This is actually my handwriting when I take my time and make it "neater". It's always been a problem since nobody can read my writing, half the time not even myself which is why I have made this neater.

>>21223538
How so? Writing it will make me remember it more. I am considering just blasting through Tae Kim instead though since I have only covered 10 of the 50~ basic videos in 2 days so far.

>>21223548
Cheers anon

>>21223550
It was the first and easiest example I saw on Tae Kim, the example wasn't really important as long as it got the message across.

>>21223560
I'm glad you're still here, I haven't been to these threads in years and it seems like nothing has changed at all, minus a fancy new website.

>「駄目だよマリア、街中で攻撃魔法は使っちゃダメなんだよ？」
I love how だめ is spelled in two different ways in the same fucking sentence

>>21223661
You are simply on the same path as all these Genki reddit tards that think it takes 15 years to get N1. The core of your study should be input, at every stage in your learning. I don't have anything against reading grammar guides and consuming these kind of learning videos on the side, but the fact that you say it's your main study and the fact that you waste time writing all this shit into a notebook just goes to show you don't really know what you are doing.

>>21223523
So it seems to be true that you have to be a retard to learn this language

>>21223523
this is retarded but also cute and dedication

reminder even >>21214266 eventually passed the N1 and now lives in Japan

>>21223484
If you're going to be a pleb and learn grammar from videos, at least use good ones (VJG or Let's Learn Japanese Basic).

>Should I finish all the grammar in Tae Kim's guide first? Does that include all 200 plus pages? Or just the basics section?
Pretty much everything in Tae Kim's guide is basic, common grammar, so you'll be less confused when you start reading if you finish it first. If the length is putting you off, you could try the Boiro guide instead which I think is quite a bit more concise. There's also Sakubi but I dunno how long that is compared to Tae Kim.

There's nothing stopping you from reading pretty much whenever you want, it's just that the less grammar and vocab you've been introduced to, the higher the initial learning curve is going to be. If you don't mind that, you could even start reading today.

>Core2k
VN Core is better. I think you can find it in the CoR.

>>21223585
What you mean is "input".

"Immersion" is an AJATT/MIAism which implies the incorporation of a passive listening environment.

>>21223523
holy SIHt

>>21223680
Flashtard speaks the truth.

What's the easiest way to tell that someone is shit at nihongo?

>>21223738
When they are more into bullying e-celebs than reading or grinding cards.

>>21223738
Afraid of quiz.

>>21223738
afraid of everything but quiz

>>21223680
wow this is the deep insight i would expect to only be able to hear by paying for matt's discord server, i'm impressed quizmaster

>>21223680
>The core of your study should be input, at every stage in your learning.
How can this be before I even have the basics of grammar down? Surely a few hundred vocab and the very basics of grammar is needed to even begin any input at all, otherwise it's looking up literally every word and sentence structure.

I agree that the videos are too slow though. I'm going to change focus to the Tae Kim guide and use the videos as a "refresher" and nothing more. Once I have finished Tae Kim, at least the basics section, I'll start input like reading and listening.

>>21223738
afraid of 檸檬

>>21223738
When they worship e-celebs thinking they are nihongo gods and pay money to join their cult.

>>21223764
>looking up literally every word and sentence structure.
you will have to do this either way, writing something in your notebook 100 times won't change this. You will find out when you start consuming actual Japanese that it isn't like the example sentences and that you have to actually get used to how Japanese is properly used. You may as well start doing this now rather than wasting your time acting like a textbook licker

>>21223764
can u just listen to me when i tell u to watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime ? its the easiest thing u can do

>>21223738
They post on djt

>>21223761
I've been dispensing wisdom far greater than anything that has ever come from the homo cult cucks for ages now. Where have you been?

>>21223764
>How can this be before I even have the basics of grammar down?
You are never going to get basic grammar down without input. You need to understand that everything you do besides input will only give you a very superficial understand of the language. I think learning words and grammar in Anki is fine to do one the side while consuming shit but it shouldn't be your main study and you in particular are going about it extremely inefficiently, just writing the shit they talk about in the video into a notebook. There is no sense or reasoning behind that approach whatsoever.

>>21223782
From the guide this general is based on:

>When should I start reading?
>You can start reading as soon as you finish a grammar guide. Reading will be somewhat easier if you know 1000–2000 or so words, but you shouldn't delay it beyond that point. Your first attempt at reading will be difficult regardless of how many words you know.

Am I supposed to believe the very old tried, tested and community built guide or you?

>>21223764
Pick some anime from the current season and just watch them raw. Let the nihongo wash over you. Listen for words and structures you've learned thus far. Pause and rewind every now and then when a line seems particularly important and try to figure out which words were used and what the sentence meant. You can do this from day one.

>>21223803
How long does it take you to read the basic sections of that grammar guide? It's not like you will obtain perfect mastery of any grammar points by reading a guide.

The sooner you jump into native material the better. It's no joke.

>>21223803
Finishing a grammar guide doesn't involve writing it out in a notebook you pleb, just anki the example sentences and be done with it. All you are doing by paying such close attention to the grammar explanations is giving yourself a sense that you understand the grammar when you don't, because you can't without many hours of input.

>>21223803
The guide is shit.

>>21223813
>How long does it take you to read the basic sections of that grammar guide?
From the guide:
>Read the entire guide, including the "Advanced grammar" section - it’s all actually basic Japanese grammar.
Considering it's 200+ "lessons" or whatever you want to call them it is going to take me a while.

>>21223822
>Finishing a grammar guide doesn't involve writing it out in a notebook you pleb
I've stopped that now due to peer pressure. I hope it is the right decision.

>>21223803
>>21223831

>>21223808
Where do I find the most common words?

>mining sentences in Anki
Anyone who does this should die.

>>21223855
How about anime cards?

>>21223851
Core2k

>>21223834
>I've stopped that now due to peer pressure. I hope it is the right decision.
It is. The best way of reviewing grammar is actually using it to try to understand real Japanese. Try to read things and figure out what they mean. You can refer back to the grammar guide for help but you should try to wean yourself off it as soon as you can.

Grammar explanations are generally bad for various reasons (the best and clearest I've ever encountered are in Visualizing Japanese Grammar) so it's not worth putting too much stock in them in the first place. The grammar guide should just be used to give you the gist of how the grammar works, then you should fill in the blanks by consuming native Japanese media and trying to understand it.

>>21223851
v2k of course

>>21223822
>just anki the example sentences and be done with it.
Even Matt acknowledges that this is a shit idea now. Stop telling people to do this.

>>21223858
u havent proven anything outside of ur quiz bubble so they should also be assumed to do nothing until further notice

gambare : )

>>21223871
>>21223862
which one god damnit

>>21223858
That's better because you don't actually have the answer on the front side.

>>21223834
>Considering it's 200+ "lessons" or whatever you want to call them it is going to take me a while.
I haven't counted them but there's definitely less I think. At the start I read the basic grammar in pretty much one or two days and then did 2-3 sections of the rest a day each until I was finishd. However it's not like any of the latter stuff ever stuck for me from reading it there. It mostly makes you vaguely aware of things and I'd argue that's enough.

I consulted a bunch of grammar resources when I started reading on the fly and then over time it got less and less. This is how I really got some of these patterns down in the end.

>>21223877
Well I got like a 280 J-CAT score which I admit isn't really too great but when you compare it to the effort I've put in which is really little then it's pretty impressive.

>hudfhrr dudfhrr i cant read text in english and retain information from it so obviously im gonna just cut it into pieces and put it on flashcards LOL

>>21223882
u can pick randomly on jcat and get a 250 so

>>21223888
Now you are just making shit up.

>>21223888
I'll try.

>>21223879
VN Core is the currently recommended deck.

Don't confuse it with one on the Anki site with a similar name which is bad. Core2k was compiled from a frequency list made using old newspapers so the word selection isn't very relevant to most people here who are interested in reading/watching weeaboo media.

>>21223881
>At the start I read the basic grammar in pretty much one or two days and then did 2-3 sections of the rest a day each until I was finishd.
Did you do this at the same time as reading manga/whatever or did you start once you finished the basics? Or the whole thing?

>>21223891
just favor picking c and ull be in pretty good shape seriously LOL

>>21223896
Can you make a video of yourself doing this?

>>21223894
Wait I was always grinding the one in the anki site. Where is the real VN core?

>>21223899
In the CoR.

>>21223897
just ask some of the other guys in here who have taken it to be candid about how they couldnt really read most of the questions and felt like they scored higher than what level theyd think they are

>>21223894
VN core is a horrible deck honestly. Use Core2k rather than that if you really got to use premade decks and listen to the example sentences.

I may actually make an anime card 2k deck at some point if I ever end up with a shitton of free time just so people stop recommending these trash decks. Who knows though.

>>21223903
Well I could read everything and felt like I scored lower than I should. I still feel like I should be around 300 but I won't take the test again until at least september.

>>21223902
Sorry, but what's the CoR?

>>21223907
Something that newfriends can find anymore because the itazuraneko maintainer is an absolute braindead spastic.

CTRL+F for コルヌコピア on https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>>21223906
my armchair impression of how the test works based on what i read in these threads is that all questions arent weighted equally and theres prolly a few trap questions where if u get them wrong ur invisible "doesnt know japanese" factor that goes into ur score goes way up

>>21223907
nvm found it.

custom anime cards > custom vocabulary cards > Core 2K/6K > trash > VN Core > shit straight out of satan's anus > sentence cards

>>21223914
>>21223919
thanks anyways.

Guess its time to grind another deck, I've been deceived.

>>21223921
what about satanias anus

>>21223921
Quality post. You got my endorsement brother.

>>21209313

>>21223904
You have 17k cards or something, right? You probably have cards for a lot of the VN Core words already, it's just a matter of splitting them off into another deck.

>>21223921
and the very last one, > posting and spending time on djt

you mean the very first one

>>21223930
Yea I thought about this but it felt like there would be some issues with that.
1. The sentences are not ordered by difficulty and there are no translations so a ton of cards would have shit incomprehensible to a beginner which makes the advantage of voiced context questionable.
2. The anime selection would be pretty random and people couldn't just watch 2-3 shows that all their core cards would be comprised of. If people have no clue where the sentence is from, well that also diminishes the advantage of anime cards.

>>21223895
I started with other things after the basics but I didn't really wait long. Overall I'm not a huge fan of manga and I still only read very little manga. Instead I just tried to read whatever I came across online + subtitles Anime. My first big jump into reading was with starting light novels which I started doing after 4 1/2 months, which is earlier than I usually see people attempt it. It was rough at first but you also make huge gains like this.

It's not a recommendation to do LNs though. It's just that I was always more interested in reading straight up books than manga.

posting on djt when u dont know japanese ftl

<-- posting when on djt when u do know japanese (most of us)

I'm using the "Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary" deck.

Is there a way to "disable" the last 4k cards without removing them fully? I don't think more than 2k is worth my time.

If I start now when can I expect to able to write a formal business email, realistically how many years? Is it possible to cut listening out and focus on reading/writing? I'm working as an Illustrator and having to pay for a slow ass translator is pissing me off.

>>21223944
wot

>>21223947
Depends on how much effort you put in and how smart you go about it man.

>>21223950
I don't want to accidentally eat into the last 4k of the 2/6k deck, but I don't want to remove them completely incase I change my mind at a later date.

>>21223958
just do 2k and stop?

>>21223944
Go into card browser, sort by due and suspend the last 4000 cards.

>>21223941
There's no point in being on DJT after finishing learning Japanese. There's no point in going to discussion forums unless you've actually got questions or doubts.

Is this a good choice for my first novel?

>>21223895
>>21223940
Manga isn't reading.

>>21223966
ull understand someday

I have done all kanjidamage writting all the kanji and learn both on and kun reading also watched all dolly videos and now I'm reading DOBJG and doing 2k/6k 100 new words per day/ 200 reviews all of this while listeing to jap music and watching at least 2 episodes of anime.
Regardless of what you think. I'm gonna make it.

>>21223978
Try reading it. If you understand it, then yeah, it's good enough for you.

>>21223986
here u go dude this songs about u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPGQjDG8pCw#t=43

>>21223988
I have to use yomichan to understand it.

>>21223979
>Reading words isn't reading.
Only in DJT do you find true wisdom like this.

>>21223978
Some words of wisdom from Jamal:
>when u start lookin for ez shit instead of fun shit thats when ur chances of makin it start droppin

>>21223996
but I like the premise.

>>21223992
(someone else) That's okay. You'll need to look up words first, but that's how you learn.

>>21223996
i didnt post that tho that was my yung disciple

>>21223997
The kanji count suggests it was a compromise choice.

>>21224004
Well I was searching from bottom to top. But the cover and the premise catched my eye.

But to be honest I rather read Konosuba, re:zero, or monogatari. But I know I'm not at that level so I sorted from kanji usage.

what if jamal was actually khatz, there is an article khatz wrote specifically saying how great it is to listen to japanese rap

quiz is probably matt

>>21224011
How many kanji do you know (or how many words? What did you study so far?

Jamal is Khatz, we all know it, but we prefer to protect his identity

>>21224013
quiz cant be matt his posts have better english LOL

>>21223884
i read "flashcards" as "fleshcards" and it made me wonder what if there was an onahole with a speaker that taught you 日本語 as you thrusted into it/cummed/etc.

I decided to study every new kanji I come across. Problem: I read a lot, and so I come across around 60 kanji a day. There are way more kanji than I ever imagined. But at least I'm having fun.

>>21224011
konosuba re:zero and boxgirl are all shit

>>21224017
for kanji, I probably could recognize 5 or 6 pretty easily. as for words I probably know about 50-60.

>>21224023
what the fuck

>>21224020
I'm happy you think so. I am ESL after all.

>>21224025
k, what do chads like you read?

>>21224025
+1ing this btw

>>21224034
i mean its not so mcuh a complement to u as it is shitting on matt but ur english is good for esl

>>21224030
when did you start learning? if it is that low i'd suggest just watching some simple slice of life anime and making cards from that. Use Daiweeb so you can look up words and shit, maybe after a month or so when you have more words and Kanji then go back to the book.

>>21224024
>I read a lot, and so I come across around 60 kanji a day

>Matt tries the quiz
>広義 comes up
What happens?

>>21224041
lool i never actually read this post properly before i just thought everyone was making fun of the bazooka part. fuck me i thought my english was bad

>>21224043
I started last wednesday, learned katakana and hiragana to heart by saturday and been grinding anki VN core since then.

>Literally everyone: "Learn Japanese from Japanese not English!"

It's literally impossible, why is this so common? If I don't know any French I can't learn French from a textbook written in French for fuck sake.

あと

にほんのねこは

しゃべる

>>21224030
Oh, then you should still learn a bit of kanji/vocab. I started reading RE:Zero a while ago and I know around ~700 kanji and it's hard for me. No idea how much vocab.

>>21224050
>hahaah bro he mispelled a word.

>>21224050
matt is like the Neo of nihongo. The Japanese will change around him as he sees fit. Dictionary entries rewrite themselves. He blows off Quizmaster's head with a bazooka

>>21224054
i mean you should start reading as soon as you can, if you can stand to just look literally every single word in that novel up because you won't know any of them go for it. I'd recommend anime because you still get immersion and you can pick out words and grammar points you know, but it won't be as painful as reading a book.

>>21224035
Erogames, duh.

>>21224057
This is only possible if you know the common words.

>>21224057
I had an Italian teacher who only spoke Italian after the third lesson. I understood jack shit and left the class after a year.
"testo" is the word for "sheet" in Italian. I got a fucking heart attack any time he asked us to write something on our worksheet.

>>21224057
You got to srs a lot and get lots of context until high comprehension. Don't listen to the people that did it the hard way.

>>21224066
Hmm like raw anime? Or should I use subs? I'll be honest I'll rather watch some anime right now.

Should I write every word I catch in a notebook? or is just looking it up good enough?

>>21224035
Manga, anime, 3DS games on emulator

ねこってしゃべるの！？

>>21224070
you learn the common words by reading and looking shit up. news flash, the common words are common and will show up in any text

>>21224078
Manga isn't reading though.

>>21224020
>>21224034
>>21224041
>>21224051

>>21224077
Everything should be written in a notebook it helps MASSIVELY with retention. The only person that shows any signs of making it in this thread is this guy >>21223523

マットは天才?

>>21224077
Daiweeb. That and Animelon are the single two best places to learn japanese in all of existence. You can go back forth on dialogue with arrow keys, E is for english subs (last resort), repeat listening is fast gains, you can make cards from it pretty easy too.

>>21224085
Is this guy important or does djt just like to shit on him? He's not even Japanese

>Shadowing at low levels
>any gains

you don't need output at low level you brainlets

>>21224079
にゃんとしゃべります

>>21224094
He's just a guy that's about 6 years deep into study and thinks he learned secrets when he really didn't. After that much study time anybody would be at about his level. He was a Ajatt follower originally, and now he thinks he can improve it, but has yet only done trivial things and gets $3500 a month on patreon for it.

>>21224047
Kanji I don't know, of course, I already know a couple hundred

>>21224107
It's not even 6 years. He did AJATT for 8 years and had years of Japanese classes in high school.

>>21224106
なんだ、そうだたか

>>21224121
But he says he went over a year without looking at anything in japanese because he got sick of it etc. I approximate he's about 6 years in total.

Experiences with Rosetta Stone?

>>21224137
Mods?

>>21224137
better than nothing but it's weak, you really just need to get out of english stuff to be honest, the more japanese the better

>>21224137
I admit I tried it when I started, pretty useless man just watch some anime.

>>21222502
yes
>>21223523
even imouto is fuckin with u lol
>>21223906
>Well I could read everything and felt like I scored lower than I should.
u cant make this shit up
>>21224065
he said once that natives are the lang and u know hes native vetted now so whatever comes out of his mouth is valid nihongo

>>21224137
really great to learn egyptian

Anyone having trouble with Anki? I updated to 2.1.12 but it keeps telling me to update. Which I already did.

>>21224137
I tried it once, it sucks.

>>21224127
wasnt it like 2 months between his peak nihongo im dropping this lang video and hey guys im thinkin about u givin me money or was there another time he dropped it too

>>21224144
I set the language to kanji with kana since I already learned kana I dont even include English my notes

Never mind, updated Anki. But I'm NOT liking its new look. Japanese font looks a little off to me. Too handrawn looking. Any way to change that?

>>21224137
I tried that once. I ended up not learning anything that I didn't already know by watching anime. I tried a bunch of other stuff back when I started learning Japanese, like Michel Thomas CDs, the Minna no Nihongo and Genki I & II textbooks. Just about the only stuff I got out of them was being able to tell ツ シ ソ ン ク ケ apart. I didn't really start learning anything new until I was nearly a month into the core6k deck.

>>21223546
>>21223791
>>21223891
>>21223904
>>21223906
>>21223938
Stop posting. You are cancer.

しにたい

...and now the new version's incompatible with Yomichan. Fuck it, reverting back until further notice.

>>21224189
I'm the best thing to happen to the thread in years.

>>21224189
Are you sincerely mocking me? That's laughable. Get in the Discord and challenge me in the quiz, or just admit you're a funposting shitter

>>21224196
thanks for saving me from updating. I don't use it that much anymore anyway

yawn

>>21224203
Stop pretending to be me already!
Though I'm fine with you coming to quiz.

>>21224176
I used all of those programs at one time or another and the only thing they're good at is mixing it up which makes it interesting and might keep you going. I've done all the apps out there, read rtk, tae kim, dojg, etc. I got the big gains from SRS, reading, and watching/dissecting dramas, youtube, and anime. So whatever keeps you going but the srs and immersion is like steroids.

Anyone tried FlixGrab or similar software to download stuff from Netflix (for the purpose of using it in Subs2SRS)?

They feel shady af and you have to input your Netflix account information in order for it to actually work. I'm sure this is needed from a technical standpoint in order for the program to actually access the content in order to download it, but I have this feeling it's secretly calling home, giving them my Netflix acc info.

r u seriously mocking meee xDDDDD my tiny ego was bruised

>>21224211
Shit, I used a lot of "in order", sorry for my poor English, but I'm sure you get the gist of my post.

>>21224206
Waiting for you.

>>21224218
I am waiting for you! Just say you want to challenge Quizmaster.

>>21224214
Knowing Kanji readings IS knowing Japanese. There's no better way to test proficiency is Japanese. GOOD NIGHT for real this time!

how long have u been "studying" nihongo and how much of this can u "understand" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTep_EYCkbk

>>21224242
I already told you that's a fake quizmaster post!

Well?

>>21224254
is it bad that this song is what finally pushed me over the edge to learn japanese? i know everyone's reason for learning is always something stupid like porn or whatever but I feel like mine was extra lulzy

I don't actually know any Japanese.

>>21224268
Stop pretending to be me.

>>21224262
hot
name?

>>21224274
涼香

>>21224254
1 week, and everything.

>>21224263
well it really gives u that extra holy shit japanese is fuckin ez vibe so i can see it pushin u over the edge

>>21224254
why does he say na after i adjectives?

Core2k or VN Core? I'm not gonna get my asshole ripped open mining right from the get go.

>>21224323
Do core.

>>21224313
he said なぁぁ

>>21224204
I assume you know enough words. I'd get stressed from the gigantic backlog.

1 year of japanese """study""" (reading grammar guide and grinding RTK and Anki vocabulary) and i still can't understand anything beyond the most basic sentences because i just don't read much or listen/watch anime.
How do i stop being a faggot?
Is there a VN that isn't boring?
Even if it's just stupid i need something entertaining

pink guy ftw

>>21224332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

>>21224332
>Is there a VN that isn't boring?

I have a question about input by watching anime with japanese subtitles.
Do you guys just pause and thoroughly reread subtitles and listen over and over again when you don't understand something or do you just keep it running even if you miss tons of stuff? I'm not sure which one would be the better approach since the latter means more content but less comprehension.

>>21224336
the channel is pretty good though, she reads a lot of children's books, I used her and peppa the pig all month once, childrens stuff is pretty good listening gains

>>21224332
What do you like? We need to know that if we wanna give you recommendations.

sex shitai naaaaaaaaa~

>>21224356
good shit dude im legit proud

>>21224332
If there's nothing you want to read or watch in Japanese, maybe you ought to reconsider whether or not you should actually be learning the language.

>>21224356
She reads Peppa Pig or is there another channel you use? I'd be interested in childrens content like that

>>21224093
Alright I'll try and watch Konosuba with only JP subtitles.

watch that fucken pigg

>>21224358
If i only allowed myself to get input from stuff i truly like i would have nothing to read at my level.
At this point i'm willing to put up with completely ridiculous garbage like Date Alive just to get some gains.
Something that is bad and boring is a lot worse than something that is bad and "fun"

>>21224369
this triggers me so much i wanna punch the computer

>>21224369
Life sure sucks for Windows plebs having to use this shitty streaming site.

>>21224366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3FMvExmW20
Theres a bunch of peppa channels, here. I can understand everything in all of her episodes no problem now.

>>21224365
Well, there are a couple of things, they're just way beyond my level so i need to find something easy for a baby like me that doesn't mix too many grammatical points in a single sentence.

>>21224376
huh

>>21224375
why? What did I do to you?

>>21224369
fucking hell, if you're going to use yomichan, at least use the compact mode. what the fuck are going doing.

Please stop bullying me anon told me to watch anime on daiweeb for fast nihongo gainz.-

>>21224326
but which? I'm not touching the 6-8K cores. Also,the VN core is missing from the CoR so if anyone has a link I would appreciate it a bunch.

>>21224377
how the fuck do you call this listening gains its oink oink every 2 words

>>21224377
Thanks ペッパ anonkun

>>21224391
you're doing good anonkun, follow your heart

>>21224400
thanks anon, people will hate me no matter what I do, so I'll just follow my heart and watch JP subbed anime instead of reading.

>>21224392

>>21224408
>instead of
why not both

>>21224418
because anon told me it would be easier to understand what's happening more easily. Instead of getting few definitions of words and trying to mash them together to see what the fuck does the sentence mean.

>>21224428
always keep a balanced diet
in my own experience voiced vn is ur holy grail
raw anime seemed useless to me until after i was a couple vns deep but i wasnt pausing and yomiing it that just sounds like a a shittier form of voiced vn

>>21224329
I do, I guess. I'm not sure how much I actually know because I didn't use a lot of anki to begin with. I currently just have a mining deck that's basically everything matured because I stopped using it (400 cards, but my vocabulary is way bigger than that)
I pick up vocabulary way faster when I just read and learn the kanji that I don't know. Once I know the meaning of the kanji, I can often learn a word by seeing it a few times.

is manko really all its cracked up to be ?

>>21224352
https://www.weareteacherfinder.com/blog/extensive-intensive-reading/

>>21224476
wouldnt know

is there a person who does both quiz and manko?

>>21224476
in a few years i'll tell you

>>21224476
2d look and see for urself bud
3d u might think so until ur a lil older

I actually started watching Netflix with the japanese audio commentary and it's pretty good. Thx Matt.

>>21224486
>>21224493
>>21224494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXc-_7P-uO8#t=20

>>21224377
That is the worst sun cream applying method I have ever seen. Literally unwatchable.

imagine learning nihongo from a fucking pig.

>>21224519
imagine learning nihongo

knock it off with the pig shaming faggos

>>21224524
imagine not learning nihongo

>>21224484
can't you just spoonfeed me

>attempted to learn Japanese back in 2016
>gave up after 1k vocab and lightly caressing the grammar guide
>3 years later and I have to start from the beginning
>if I kept at it I would be fluent by now
>I now have significantly less time and more responsibilities than I had then

This time, right? Just fucking end me already.

>>21224530
Imaginense aprender ingles.

>>21224529
The pig is garbage. Oink. Grunt. Unbearable. Some kind of illuminati brainwashing. It did originate in Britain.

>>21224534
no

>>21224535
dw, i was the same.
except i gave up after like 4 weeks when i started the first time back in like 2015, and now i've been going strong for a whole year.

>illuminati
not you again

>>21224535
>just saw the date I took that screenshot
>it's literally 3 years and a day since then
spooky

>>21224542
How do you resist the urge to kill yourself? Like I know I'll never do it even when I want to but knowing I'd happily throw my life away tomorrow kind of makes learning Japanese seem like a waste of my last few hours you know?
How much progress have you made in the year btw?

sounds like you need some eroge

>>21224535
>This time, right?
no. not if you keep giving aniki attention instead of ur animes

Feels like Little Witch Academia is pretty good for my current level. Any other recommendations that might also work well based on this?

Which is correct?
アニメ
アニム

>>21224550
>How do you resist the urge to kill yourself?
I don't resist the urge, I'm just too big of a pussy.
Honestly, there just comes a point where you realise "wow, 3 months pass in a flash, if i had done this and that for X minutes each day i could've somewhat developed a skill by now"
And that's when you start building a routine.
I'm probably at N3 or N2 niveau but that's not saying much as most people say that even once you finish N1 you're basically still a dekinai.

>>21224535
No point crying over spilled milk anon.
Just try and do it properly this time.
Even if you can do less per day, it's only the constant exposure to nip that will get you anywhere.

I do suggest focusing on grammar and reading more than anki tho. And if you really wanna use premade anki decks use VN Core, it's leagues above core2k/6k if you wanna get into animu shit fast.

Good luck!

>>21224567
pokemon

I mean, for me one of the long term goals is exposing my kids to Japanese from a young age, so I need to ganbaru myself.

>>21224535
I started Japanese in 2009 and stopped after a bit more than a year, although during those last months I was already declining rapidly. It wasn't a conscious effort to stop either, just trailing off towards the end.

It's useless to speculate how fluent I could have gotten if I had stayed with it longer. It's especially a shame since that included a home stay in Japan and everything.

just do what u wanna do just waste ur entire life and die

>>21224579
>>21224542
>>21224535
Please stop reposting from r*ddit, thanks

>>21224576
You can only learn nihongo with pokemon if you are eating and shitting at the same time.

>>21224569
糞

>>21224587
to learn nihongo u must become pepper pig and watch pokemon

which season though

>>21224595
u cant say that we determined a few threads back its a swear word

>redditor needs months to learn hiragana and katakana
you cant make this shit up

>>21224610
that's what happens if you refuse to utilize technology and instead grind some minna no nihongo textbook.

>>21224610
The fuck? The average guy takes max 3 days to learn all of them.

minna no nihongo more like MINNA GENKI?

>>21224633
>pulling statistics out of your ass

>>21224638
Most guides say that it shouldn't take that long to learn all of them. If you take more than a week to learn kanas you either a brainlet or you are using non-efficient learning techniques.

>>21224613
You don't even need technology. I learned those back in highschool with a sheet of paper which I cut into flashcards and made cards for the kana. You just need to use your brain.

more like watashitachi wa gei

imagine being a physical flashtard

imagine not only wasting your time DOING flashcards but also wasting your time PHYSICALLY MAKING flashcards
double the inefficiency

Textbooks are a terrible way to learn a language. It doesn't matter what language it is. Even if you try to learn a language with no compelling content like Thai or something, you still don't need them.
>textbooks, passive listening, and sentence cards
The holy trinity of cancer.

>>21224658
I did that in college for Spanish. I would steal stacks of paper then saw them into hundreds of flash cards and it was a huge mess

>>21224658
far superior to digital. if you don't handwrite all your answers anyways youre illiterate and will stay this way. Making the physical cards in the first place is already reinforcing your memory much more.

>>21224254
>not posting the video
https://vimeo.com/210902520

Recommend me something other than チーズスイートホーム to watch raw because i cant fucking find a seeded torrent for it

>>21224670
for all the time you spend doing shit the hard way to "reinforce your memory" you could just "reinforce your memory" by not doing flashcards and enjoying media *dab*

>>21224672
Also it's satisfying to have this stack of things in your hand and be like: "I know this." I learn kanji by handwrite-drilling them anyway, so....

>>21224683
Hey I did RTK by hand on paper too. When I was done I kinda regretted it because my recognition was still shit. You're not gonna see fucking rtk keywords in manga, you're gonna see kanji. If I had to do it all over I'd do lazy rtk (and yeah maybe only the 1000 most common ones)

>>21224658
>>21224664
How would you make physical anime cards?
Especially interested in the audio capturing aspect of it.

Here I was thinking what a fucking useless word 万年筆 in Core2k is and then I read a thing where this appears all the fucking time.

>>21224675
ur supposed to challenge urself with no subs

>>21224698
never heard it before but it's n5 lol

>surely this pen will last 10,000 years...
why r japs so dum

>>21224707
Explain 万歳

>>21224692
I'm not really doing RTK right now, honestly. It mostly works out for me like this (I already know a decent amount of kanji, like 700-800):
- read stuff
- write kanji with meaning down that I don't know
- drill those
- write a flashcard and learn it
I haven't been doing that for long, but I've already learnt a lot of kanji and recognize them in what I'm reading, too. I'm actually surprised by the amount of kanji I can learn in a day even though it's tedious / hard.
I just can't deal with mnemonics / stories, rote memorization works better. I can see how it helps people though (also I have no problem with not a keyword but just meanings, because I rather learn the concept and sometimes write a word with the kanji on the backside of the card too)

>>21224692
I did RTK by hand as well, and my recognition was kind lacking afterwards. I solved that issue by flipping the deck and basically doing lazy kanji with 150 new cards every day. Since I technically already knew the kanji, it only took me around 2-3 weeks for my recognition skills to catch up to my writing skills.

>>21224728
>I solved that issue by flipping the deck and basically doing lazy kanji with 150 new cards every day.
Heh, I guess that's one way to do it. By that point I kinda hated Anki reps and kanji drilling so I decided to just stop completely and learn japanese

how long have u been "learning" "japanese" and how much of this do u understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SNTxlS-LgU

Man whenever RTK gets discussed I get the need to take a big shit into the thread and derail discussion just so people stop talking about this bullshit.

How do me convince M*tt to take the quiz?

>>21224761
money match him

>>21224761
you are unworthy of his time lol be glad he ever acknowledged your ant existence

>>21224761
make him lunch and eat it with him in the toilet

>>21224771
But he does have time to write an essay worth of Youtube comments?

>>21224761
dunk matts head in the toilet till he gives in

>>21224761
by contacting his host family in Japan and making his host brother talk about how people talked behind his back.

>>21224782
lol imagining talking to his former host family and theyre all like man that kid was retarded i was hoping we didnt get a defective one but alas lol

>>21224790
Is there a realistic chance of finding his host family?

>>21224790
What you talking about bitch! I'll have you know I have a IQ score above 160. Just because I'm way too smart doesn't mean I'm retarded!!!

>>21224804
No

>>21224804
i would say there is but im not into that shit i just wanna laugh at him not be a weirdo

What was the magic number of VN lines needed for fluency being thrown around recently? 40k?

690,420

10k hours of english subbed anime.

>>21224820
thats not fluency thats just step 1 on the road

Hey ya'll. It's Calvin here. As some of you have seen on my Twitter/YouTube over the past year or so, I have a history of popping up, then disappearing. Changing my language, then going back to Japanese. I wanted to talk a bit about why I have been doing that and what I am going to be doing in the future. I believe it is appropriate to go all the way back to March 2018.

March 2018 was when I founded the AJATT method through mattvsjapan and decided that I was going to be learning Japanese. This was quite exciting for me. I was excited to not only learn Japanese, but to also show the world my progress. Well, throughout the journey I struggled immensely. My discipline was out of whack and I held myself to ridiculous expectations. I got to a point where I would literally set deadlines in my Journey that were due 7 years from now. In general I had this "all of nothing" mentality. I figured that if I wasn't doing Japanese as much as I possibly could, then I just simply wasn't doing enough. Due to toxic thinking like this, I struggled immensely. And another HUGE factor that let to my failures was the pressure of people seeing my struggle. I was so terrified of posting a big goal that I have on YouTube, then come 1 year later, I didn't make any progress. So, when that happened, I said to myself that I can "start over" and make things right. I do that by starting over in another language. That way, I can show people a Calvin that is actually making good progress in his language journey. The problem here is that the language I switched was a language that I didn't care enough to learn. I would convince myself that I wanted to learn it, but I truly didn't. So then over time I would eventually go back to the language that I want to learn, Japanese. This is in a nutshell what has been happening. I wanted to post this to be 100% real with you guys. So, where do I go from here?

Well, now I am going to fit Japanese into my life that is practical. I am also not going to get so caught up in YouTube and social media in general. The fear of failure would CRIPPLE me. The fear of being seen as a failure online would cripple me so incredibly hard. So, long gone are those days. I am just going to do Japanese, immerse everyday, do my reps in solitude. I am also going to be okay with things not going exactly as I planned them. Instead of thinking of an end goal, I am going to be thinking of a "trajectory" with my Japanese. This will be a lot less stress and way more practical. I would like to personally thank YogaPants for taking the time out of your day to talk with me for an hour and a half about all of this. Your words truly helped.

I will no longer being saying "K bye" on here or YouTube. I don't want to just drop of the face of the earth. I am just gonna be chill and not worry about all of that extra stuff right now. I am just going to focus on living my life and just incorporating Japanese into it in a healthy manner. My relationship with social media is not very good, so I won't be super active, but I will check in every now and then.

To those who have read all of this, thank you for taking the time to do so. I am happy to be completely honest with you all and I wish you all the best of luck with your goals.

Peace

>>21224824
then you have to watch 100k jp subbed anime.

>>21224830
i mean some that 100k should be anime but not all of it

is there even 100k jp anime

>>21224827
lol stfu ぬっげる

>>21224839
you haven't tried hard enough if you can't find 110k hours of anime content.

>>21224814
maybe hell do it himself
for all my patrons heres an exclusive interview with the kid i lived with but couldnt talk to at the time i paid him two hundo to take an hour out of his day to embarrass me but it all went over my head
>>21224817
how many characters is a line
prob over 10m characters to be minimally functional

>>21224827
I wish this was real but Calvin wouldn't be so stupid as to reveal himself if he ever came here.

>>21224863
its as real as all the reddit posts

>>21224827
Okay but will you take the quiz?

Extensive vs Intensive Reading

Which is better?

i can just imagine karbin comin back and quizmaster makes a twitter to start harrassin him
lets see how ur doin karbin come quiz me well play with only n5 vocab come quiz me theres even a rtk setting come quiz me karbin ill kick ur ass karbin lets do it karbin

>>21224892
I don't know why you think I'd be so rude to a guy who is honest about being a shitter.

I only challenge shitters who pretend being big shits claiming they know shit.

adding ebin maymays to anki yay or nai?

>>21223447
gone/went have irregular semantics; went can be used as a participle in many situations

>>21224900
i think ud be desperate for another notch on ur belt

why is でした not in jmdict

>>21224918
it's a yay, any type of image that you can associate with a word is good

remove Rōmaji and you good to go.

>>21224923
I don't have that many notches because rarely do people actually come to quiz and if they do they either know nothing and don't pretend being Japanese masters or some good guys come on and we have fun quizzes while all being humble and respecting each other's accomplishments. The guys I challenge talking shit however are exclusively shitters and the proof lies in the fact that they collectively flee from having to show they can read any Japanese.

I thought I could do it. I learned intensively japanese vocabulary and grammar during five months and then I just dropped it, I don't even know why. It's been six months now. Is it even worth restarting or will I never do it ?

how bout having vocab, image, and sentence in the front. yay or nay?

>>21224950
Bad. Do anime cards.

>>21209313

>>21224950
Get rid of the image, if it's a noun you're cheating on your "meaning" test and it just becomes remembering readings.

but in the real world there'll be context, if I'm training for quizzes than I could see how it could be bad, but i'm not.

>>21224948
just like read lol

>>21224957
Sentence cards make you dependent on a context, anime word cards as the Streamable links in the other thread posts show utilize the context to make you learn the word.

>>21224957
in the real world is the context the same every time? no, it's different. you're going to memorize this one situation instead of the world spelling

>>21224951
I don't have the time to do anime cards, I will have to download raw torrents and then go ahead and try to find instances where the word is said.

>cram read tae kim in a day or 2
>start reading something simple like Yotsuba after that
>continue core2k deck every morning

Is this a solid start? Do I need more time for Tae Kim or is a very quick read good enough for a basis?
Should I be doing anything like making an Anki deck on Tae Kim grammar or should I just expect to pick it all up while reading anyway?

>>21224969
You download the subtitle pack and download the corresponding release. You don't search for instances but you make cards as you consume shit aka mining.

>>21224970
step 1 and 3 optional

>>21224940
sometimes u almost sound sane but then i remember ur other posts
im happy for u that u found some dudes to have a good time with

>>21224948
You rly gotta ask yourself why you want to do this. Also you made the basic mistake of making your studying all about Anki and Grammar guides I guess. You need to stop this as soon as possible. No one can stomach doing years of this when they don't use the language.

I easily do my Anki and Grammar each day because I play games, listen to drama CDs, watch shows and read LNs every day. I also fell off the wagon once when all the Japanese I did was literally just studying it.

>>21224979
There is a lot of fake Quizmaster posts floating around so better be careful who you trust.

>>21224976
>"reading" with absolutely no understanding of grammar
It's literally impossible. It's like asking someone to cook some food without anything to cook with.

>>21224985
It's kinda possible with yomichan separating the words for you. Still painful tho.
The guy prolly meant cramming the whole grammar guide is optional, which I agree with.
Just get to know the basic structure and look up the rest as you go.

vncore > core2k > a literal turd > anime cards > the rotten asshole of a road killed skunk > sentence card.

>>21225001
>Placing core2k above turds
Shit opinion desu.

>>21225001
You willing to back that opinion up in the quiz?

>>21223904
>>21224326
What the fuck is your problem with VN Core? It's better than Core2k in every conceivable way other than the lack of sentences, which is irrelevant for a short shared decks that consists mostly of words with multiple common uses.

>>21225007
yes

>>21224983
I just want to play vn really, I know most of them wont be translated or will take ages to have a shitty translation. I tried reading early but I didn't understood anything since I didn't understood how the sentence grammatically worked nor the sense of the words

aaah shit here we go again.

>>21225021

Tfw I'm 100% certain some of my due anki cards became new.
Anyone else had this happen to them?

>>21225014
Core2k is pretty bad in it's own way, but every Core2k word is common and still worth learning. The lack of any usage information whatsoever is a pretty big flaw first of all and I doubt a beginner will be able to confidently recall the word he learns in it in his actual input.
VNcore has a ton of issues beyond that as well but I don't care to download it just to show you up. It's a bad deck and mining shit with context information is just a lot more efficient.

>>21225018
Come to the itazura discord in the guide and just say you want to quiz.

>>21224951
I like your cards, do you mind posting what's on your back template

>>21225031
Stop using Anki.

>>21225032
No, I'm not going to let this up until you explain what its issues are. Because aside from the lack of sentences, every issue it has Core2k has worse.

>>21225032
>The lack of any usage information whatsoever is a pretty big flaw first of all
It would be if it were possible to learn words through Anki which it isn't so it's not.

Most people who do Core don't even read the sentences anyway.

>I doubt a beginner will be able to confidently recall the word he learns in it in his actual input.
I have no idea what line of reasoning you followed to reach this conclusion.

>>21225042
He's an ankitard, that's why.
If you wanna transition from flashcards to reading (animu-style shit only in this case) as fast as possible I'd say vncore is way better, despite it's faults.
Core2k does have words you'll wanna learn eventually, but they won't really help you get to the reading phase quickly, so it's only useful to people like QM who never grew out of their anki phase.

>>21225063
It's funny because his biggest meme is flashcards made from anime and yet he still has an issue with VN Core. Makes me think he got his hands on V2K and assumed it was VN Core or something stupid like that.

>>21225034
https://pastebin.com/Fh9d7vZP
This right?

>>21225042
>>21225057
To be honest I don't care to discuss baby vocab decks. It's almost as dumb as discussing whether or not RTK is a waste of time. I have no emotional investment in this discussion whatsoever.
Do whatever you like really.

>>21225063
I make all my cards from the consumption of Japanese though. I spend 30 minutes a day in Anki. Yet you talk all this shit about me. You jealous or something?

>>21225079
Please direct yourself to >>21225069
Also, VN Core has audio and is not based on edict definitions.

>>21225085
Well listen I'm not all that kuwashii on what million variations of what baby decks there are. I remember I downloaded some VN core deck to check out what the deal was and saw a million and one issues with it before deleting, that's all. Like I said I don't really care to have this discussion, do your baby decks.

>>21225095
You sure seemed to actually care back when you were just shitting on someone else's recommendation. Funny how that works.

>>21225099
It seemed like the talk was about the shit VN core deck I downloaded but then someone brought up the possibility that I may have had a look at some other core shit deck and I can't deny the possibility, and really thinking about it I I really don't care. I'm for making full fledged anime cards from the start rather than wasting time with all these bullshit decks.

>>21225079
>I make all my cards from the consumption of Japanese though. I spend 30 minutes a day in Anki. Yet you talk all this shit about me. You jealous or something?
You're the one gimping yourself, that's why I usually don't respond to you, but I'll bite this once.
If you're as good as you claim, you should've
a. gone monolingual a long long time ago, you're esentially learning shitty somewhat equivalents of the actual japanese meanings
b. quit intensive anki usage and used the time to just read instead, going over the same usage cases (from your sentence examples) for words over and over only teaches you one aspect of the word, while actual reading (or any input) lets you pick up on the various different nuances.
But eh, continue to jerk off your anki shit if you want, nobody really cares that much, you're just fun to fuck around with.

>>21225019
see >>21224343
if u want it ur ready
theres gonna be a lot of shit u dont understand but as long as ur gettin enough out of the text to have an idea of whats goin on ur makin progress and after a few vns its ez
drop anything that ur not enjoying and try another thats all u need

>>21225079
>This right?
yes thank you

>made lots of progress every day
>remember about DJT
>come and visit
>make little progress today

I'm sorry everyone but I must leave you. Cheers for the guide, I'll come back once I have made it I promise. Good luck everyone! Keep at it!

>>21225141
fuck you we don't need you.

>>21225141
gambare tomodati

>>21225117
>gone monolingual
I have monolingual dictionaries loaded. Whether I use Japanese definitions on my cards or not makes zero difference. This idea that having monolingual Anki cards is an universal standard is an idea held by beginners which I have no doubt you are. It simply doesn't matter.
Answer this: Can you learn a language without a dictionary?
What if I removed the definition from my card entirely and only used the context?
Your thinking that the definition in my Anki cards is a big part of my study is just you misunderstanding how my cards work.

>quit intensive anki usage
I am not using Anki intensively. I am using it for 30 minutes a day and spending the rest of my time to consume Japanese. You incapable of comprehending this simple fact or something?
M*tt, whose dicksucker you are I have no doubt, spent 2 hours on it after years of obsessively studying the language. I am learning casually and I don't see why I need to stick to your nonsensical arbitrary standards when what I am doing works wonderfully.

>>21225115
>I'm for making full fledged anime cards from the start rather than wasting time with all these bullshit decks.
Mining from day 1 is a bad idea and you should already know why considering how many "just started learning a couple weeks ago" beginners here fail to understand that your anime cards are just normal recognition cards with a little extra motivation behind them or think that the couple extra seconds per created card is a big deal.

>>21225124
I'll try this today. Should I mine for vocabulary and check some grammar points when I read or just read ?

>>21225153
read and look things up within reason
if you're spending minutes per sentence you're looking too much stuff up
if you move on before comprehending vital plot points you're not looking enough up
exercise common sense for how much effort/time to expend for what results

What is Quizmaster's native language?

Can someone explain to me what の does?

From Tae Kim's guide I get it does everything.

>>21225164
mentalese

>>21225117
>you're esentially learning shitty somewhat equivalents of the actual japanese meanings
>going over the same usage cases (from your sentence examples) for words over and over only teaches you one aspect of the word, while actual reading (or any input) lets you pick up on the various different nuances.
These two issues are rendered obsolete by master race reading cards.

>>21225169
Everything. Good job, you understood it correctly. Time to move on and worry about other things.

>>21225150
I wonder. I feel like it should be possible but it's not like I started mining from day 1 myself so I can't guarantee it. And as I only did one core deck I may lack perspective on the other decks. Well that's what partly motivates my sudden will to depart from this conversational topic.

>>21225164
German.

>>21225175
Delusion.

>>21225074
lol

quiztard plays with anime cards and quizzes everyday but he cant understand this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SNTxlS-LgU

>>21225189

405th
も also means けれども

>>21225074
*一からやり直しかよ

>>21225223
call rockstart JP and tell them.

>>21225223
its literally the same thing

What's the best place to download raw manga that is not in the itazuraneko library? English translated manga seems so much easier to find, ironically.

because you don't start from ichi in today's world you start from zero

>>21225256
nyaa.si

https://twitter.com/JapaneseGaryBen/status/1120724538403241985

AJATT comes off as a cult not because it's trying to condition people or something, but because it's trying to decondition people. Never thought of it this way. Excellent rebuttal to AJATT haters.

>>21225253
It is however you should be able to 感ずる which of both feels more natural!

>>21225266
nah pretty sure it comes off as a cult because it has figureheads who don't have formal credentials
>>21225270
did you mean 感じょる

>>21225270
natural for who this is a black guy

>>21223764
The problem with rote memorizing grammar is that there's just too much of it. It's way too hard and writing it in a notebook is incredibly inefficient. The more you read and listen the more you'll notice certain things about the language, and once you notice them you're far more likely to remember them. That's where grammar guides can help - consult them, but don't memorize them before you've read a lot.

Yes, reading is boring in the beginning. It's a huge pain in the ass. I didn't want to do it either. But it works.

>>21225264
the manga that I'm trying to find has 0 seeders. Any ddl sites? I wish madokami would host more raw manga

>>21225270
pretty sure a video game protagonist should say ゼロから as often as possible. have you not kept up with the 流行 for the past two decades?

>>21225288
u have fuckin brain problemks lmfoa

i had an epiphany this morning after waking up.

you know how most humans (except young children) are thinking, almost all of their waking hours, without even realizing it? and how some of those thoughts are helpful and useful, while others are just useless, distracting and even harmful or hateful? ex. “fuck japanese i’m just gonna watch english stuff because it’s too hard” or “fuck other people with a different opinion than me i hate them”

and how people with issues like depression and anxiety are living with a constant overload of the ones that are harmful or hateful?

well all of that, all of that constant, automatic, reactive buzzing of thoughts, is like living in a waking dream. instead of just seeing the world, you’re seeing the world through the lens of a bunch of skewed ideas, mostly bullshit, that you assumed along the way and your brain now keeps projecting onto everything. and for most people, the only time this stops is when they go to sleep.

>>21225288
I came.

then again i did make this im no better